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Re: Premier Tactical [dgunthert] [ In reply to ]
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dgunthert wrote:
Is your cost on the included wheelset really so low that you couldn't swap them out with an adequate set of road rims, keep the same margins, and still drop the price by $500+?

I think it would be a good move to offer a decent set of training wheels in place of the race wheels as an option. Even if you don't reduce the price by much the total package would still be a bargain and maybe encourage some folks to go with the full bike over just the frameset. I'm not sure if that does you any good on your bottom line though - I assume most of your profit comes from the frameset and not the components you build it up with. But on the customer service side it could be a positive even if your cost is close to a wash.
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Re: Premier Tactical [TH3_FRB] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you.

We are working on that and will have additional wheel option available in 45 days.

I'm about 75% finished on an aero road bike design. It has been in the works since March of 2016. That bike is specified with 50 mm carbon clinchers (25mm wide). Those wheels will soon be an option on the Tactical.

We just added the 88 mm rear wheel as an option. That will help round out the front wheel line with 50 mm and 88 and the rear with disk, 88 and 50 mm.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Please ensure that all cables are truly hidden if possible.
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Re: Premier Tactical [tttiltheend] [ In reply to ]
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I was thinking the same thing about flow and the selling, building model they did. It works and it is a smart way of doing business. I think Premier Tactical is going to amazingly well.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Just a bit more of an up-date on the new optional extension hardware.

The samples have worked out nicely. I will do one small refinement and move forward with the option. The images show the interchangeable wide and narrow installation with round tube Zipp extension. The elbow pads installation adjustability is so close they can touch on the narrow installation option and can be very wide on the wide installation. These will work on any round tube extensions.

Please excuse the bar tape :-) I had these extensions laying around.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Congrats on the aero bike shootout test...as someone who will soon be in the market for a bike upgrade the Tactical has now rocketed to the top of my wish list, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Curious on the shipment timing, are you shipping bikes yet? If I were to place an order today when could I expect to get the bike?
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Re: Premier Tactical [gd28] [ In reply to ]
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If you placed an order today I will have it in your hands in 25 days.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Dan,

can you take a stab at what is likely to change between a Tactical ordered today, vs. 3 months out, vs 6 months out?

Thx, S.
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Re: Premier Tactical [stephanl] [ In reply to ]
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Sure.

We will change the decal on the down tube in the next shipment.

We are discussing colors.

We will offer an entry level bike at a lower price point: 50 mm wheels, no hard case, no optimized chain and no power meter. Same frame, fork, aero-bar, seat post, DI-2, but with replaceable shifter's on the bull horns that can be plugged into the junction box. So- extension bar shifting.

We will have all wheels with the blacked out decals. Color decals on special order.

All options will come with the tilt kit.

The new round extension hardware will be a separate purchase at a great price.

So there will be a frame set, lower up-gradable option and the Tactical.

We will have all the bikes interchangeable with the 50 mm, 88 mm and 88/disk options.

We will have a new chain lube that works perfectly with our optimized chain.

We will have an aero road bike that we will offer as a stand alone bike or as a discounted package with the Tactical. The road bike will be compatible with DI-2 or mechanical.

We will also have the XS option on the Tactical.

We will have a full bearing upgrade kit to pair with our optimized chain - rear pulleys, bb bearings etc. at half the cost of our competitors.

Shimano lead times are growing daily so that will be a challenge for everyone. Maybe an option there.

Dan Kennison

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Last edited by: dkennison: Jul 4, 17 17:30
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Dan,

Appreciate the thoroughness. Incredible options!

Can't wait to see them all come to fruition and be able to order.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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This was NOT what I wanted to read! I guess I should start saving now. If you price it like I think it might be too good of a deal to pass up!

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you.
Thank you to Slowtwitch, it editor, contributors and forum members. The PremierBike Tactical would never have been possible without your contribution to the bike's development. Slowtwitch members designed and built this bike.
I also wanted to thank all the early adopters that were willing to purchase PremierBikes Tactical. Many - most - of those athletes purchased based on our "word" - our promise that we did the work, chopped the wood required to be able to say the bike was fast, that our optimized chain would make a difference, the travel case was something that would make travel easier and that the adjustablitity would be something they had never seen before.
These purchases were done before we beat the Felt IA in our first independent wind tunnel test, before we beat the Ventum, Felt, Andean and were within the margin of error (3 Watts) of the Cervelo P5-6 and P5X in the wind tunnel shoot out: at a cost of 1/2 and 1/3 the price.
The Bikes are on (the latest) schedule in LA :-) (which was later than we originally hoped). Next is a short train ride to Joliet and then a little work on our part and the bikes will ship out.
It's been a 3 year development project and many of you have been with us all along the way. Thank you. We are very greatful but are even more proud to be delivering a very fast unbelievable bike at a price that makes our competitors uncomfortable.
More to come.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Love everything you've done, but to be fair, aren't the Felt, Andean and Ventum all within the same margin of error?
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Any updates on when chains will ship?
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Re: Premier Tactical [grumpier.mike] [ In reply to ]
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All the chains are shipping from inventory accept the 10 speed. We are still waiting on Connex to fill those orders.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you for the upgrade in the armrests and extension mounting. I know that when I am able to purchase a new bike, this will be my choice. With all of the features that you already had and the ability to listen to your customers, you have a great product that will sell very well. Also with your pricing options, it is very appealing as I do not travel with my bike so I would never need the travel case.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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How about we scrap the XS frame and add XL frame :)
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Re: Premier Tactical [bujayman] [ In reply to ]
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Could you send me your numbers via PM or email dan.premierbike@gmail.com - We have been successful with some very tall riders on our LG.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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dkennison wrote:
Could you send me your numbers via PM or email dan.premierbike@gmail.com - We have been successful with some very tall riders on our LG.

Agreed. The Large fits some pretty big riders who need a lot of reach. More so than many, if not most, other manufacturers' XL.

Jim Manton / ERO Sports
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Re: Premier Tactical [bujayman] [ In reply to ]
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Just to chime in with a quick comparison case -

I am currently riding a Trek Speed Concept XL with low-far stem, maximum extension reach, and 35mm pedestal. I am 6'4" with 37" inseam.

Based on the Tactical size charts I expect to fit very comfortably on the Large. I will post up some fit numbers and annotated size charts later on today.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry Dan, we've already chatted about this.

No way to get the stack i need in a Large.

Unfortunately
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Re: Premier Tactical [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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Ever fit a 6'10" rider?

Want to?
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Re: Premier Tactical [bujayman] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah I remember - sorry not go a happen on our large.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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What about a stack of 715 and reach of 440?

Thanks!
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Re: Premier Tactical [gibbby1221] [ In reply to ]
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That would put you with 110 mm of spacers (bridged with a BTA bottle cage) and the steering axis a bit further back than is reasonable. Sorry - no can do.

Dan Kennison

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