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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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this (soon-to-be) tropical storm that is going to come up through TX/LA could make things interesting the next couple of days.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [AggieOO] [ In reply to ]
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I'm curious about the support crew.

I think there must be at least several full time crew, getting a van, car and RV between states. Who are these people? I can imagine myself crewing for a weekend ultra, or maybe even a week, but 50 days of continuous travel sounds miserable.

Who are these people?

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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Your being way too logical and overthinking it. 😉

Hard to believe none of this was discussed ahead of time.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [AggieOO] [ In reply to ]
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well it sat on us one full day, crossed teh peninsula and now we're sitting under its leftovers. it seems to move rather jerkily. i was rather shocked how quickly it moved over land and regrouped though so i would really keep an eye on it.

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [StoppedClock] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not sure what the crewing is like for this, but my experience crewing for adventure races tells me that it's a ton of work. An absolute ton.

I crewed a four day adventure race and got about ten hours of sleep over the course of the four days. It was a ton of work--anticipating the spoken, predicted, and unspoken needs of the four-member team, making sure the supplies were kept organized and easily found when they were needed, getting to the proper checkpoints, handling conflicting personalities that may change dependent on conditions, making sure we had sufficient grocery and creature comfort supplies when the team was deep into the race and couldn't stomach the packaged foods they brought ahead of time, setting up from place to place, getting rid of the waste afterward so it wasn't in the way, dealing with mechanicals, dealing with clothing needs that changed based on weather, etc. It was an insane amount of stress and work, completely exhausting. I could have done it by myself for about a week under those conditions or perhaps 10-14 days with races that would allow longer breaks between for the crew, but I cannot imagine doing it for 50 days.

Essentially each vehicle in his caravan is operating as a singular support crew in some ways since somebody still has to drive the vehicles to each location. It seems thus far that IC has the moxie to make it the 50 days, but it's going to take a great effort for the crew to support it and make it through so he's able to do it. Hopefully someone on the crew has the capacity to take a strong leadership role to organize and handle everything so IC only has to focus on the distance and expressing the needs he has. The capacity for him to finish has as much to do with the crew's ability to pull everything together--and to do so without outside support at each location since that's not always reliable--as it does with IC's strength to go the distance. It takes a village, and I wish them the best of luck.


StoppedClock wrote:
I'm curious about the support crew.

I think there must be at least several full time crew, getting a van, car and RV between states. Who are these people? I can imagine myself crewing for a weekend ultra, or maybe even a week, but 50 days of continuous travel sounds miserable.

Who are these people?

StoppedClock
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [MidwestRoadie] [ In reply to ]
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MidwestRoadie wrote:
I'm not sure what the crewing is like for this, but my experience crewing for adventure races tells me that it's a ton of work. An absolute ton.

Yup, and this is why the people who say that he should be doing point-to-point IMs in order to cut into the travel times are being unrealistic. As it sits now, the support gets to stay in one location for 15ish hours, during which they can sleep, grocery shop, laundry, etc.... If IronCowboy were swimming for 90 minutes and then riding 112 miles one-way then running 26 miles one way, the support team would have to essentially keep going with him. They would have no opportunity to do what all that needs doing day in and day out. And then add to that, if he were doing point-to-points, he would never get any of this local support on the bikes and runs.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Dan Funk] [ In reply to ]
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If the dude makes it to Benton Harbor MI (granted a big if)... I will go share some of the ride and break the wind for him a bit.

I'm going to attempt to be there as well, but it's 50/50 on my end. I have family coming in from Australia for a few weeks, so we'll be away with them the week prior. If I can swing coming back from vacation for a day and then taking the next day off to be there, I will.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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Absolutely... thats why I asked the question... what if he finishes the run after midnight? If that were to happen, IMO, he is done as he wouldn't have completed a full ironman in that day.

However, he is using the word IRONMAN and not iron distance. WTC owns IRONMAN and by their rules you must finish within 17 hours (with the rolling starts this is a grey area now and a few races that have an earlier cutoff time). So can we really say he's completing an IRONMAN if it's taking longer than 17 hours? (Iron distance... yes). If he's successful, it will be interesting to see if WTC stops him from using the word IRONMAN.

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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Even the Triple Deca Called them Ironmans

Splitting hairs here....
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [AggieOO] [ In reply to ]
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AggieOO wrote:
this (soon-to-be) tropical storm that is going to come up through TX/LA could make things interesting the next couple of days.

If he plans it right, he could get one hell of a tail wind.






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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [craigj532] [ In reply to ]
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+2

The negativity that gets posted on Slowtwitch bends the mind sometimes. It is almost like some people yearn and pine for someone else's failure. It is truly unbelievable.

That being said, It's been fun, but there is just too much negative energy here and too many new a**holes who post bullshit and lots of great people who used to post all the time who have left or gone underground. I'm out. Life is too short. I'll be in kona. Hope to see some of you there. Paulo knows how to find me.


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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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So, For Tuesday, tomorrow, on to
#11 June 16, 2015 (Tuesday) – Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Group: https://www.facebook.com/.../oklahomaironcowboy/
RSVP: https://www.facebook.com/...ts/1572777832997938/


http://www.ironcowboy.co/calendar/oklahoma

swim at
Lake Arcadia http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/643941922

bike http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/729088695

run http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/634841078

here is the Colorado FB group https://www.facebook.com/...ps/kansasironcowboy/
event group https://www.facebook.com/...ts/1447151835578203/

this one doesn't seem to have an identified point person
but if you go to the FB Group page you will see 7 members. I would try contacting one of those members who show they are from OK and they might have info.

from last night's run

that looks like a fun group!

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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stevej wrote:
Absolutely... thats why I asked the question... what if he finishes the run after midnight? If that were to happen, IMO, he is done as he wouldn't have completed a full ironman in that day.

However, he is using the word IRONMAN and not iron distance. WTC owns IRONMAN and by their rules you must finish within 17 hours (with the rolling starts this is a grey area now and a few races that have an earlier cutoff time). So can we really say he's completing an IRONMAN if it's taking longer than 17 hours? (Iron distance... yes). If he's successful, it will be interesting to see if WTC stops him from using the word IRONMAN.

personally, since 2 of the guys who did 30 IMs in 30 days joined him last night on his run AND personally, unless you've at least done a 30/30, I can't see what any yahoo's opinion on some website thinks about his effort. he did 2 back-to-back IMs without cycling shoes. he dragged a kid around (literally, in a raft) another day. personally i have no standing to judge.

seriously? you're questioning whether he can call himself an IM finisher after 10 days of back-to-back IMs, dragging a kid around on one day, because you judge midnight to be the cutoff? seriously?

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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I agree! Why people want to equate this to WTC events I can't figure out.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [AggieOO] [ In reply to ]
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AggieOO wrote:
this (soon-to-be) tropical storm that is going to come up through TX/LA could make things interesting the next couple of days.

Yep, his Wednesday 140.6 north of Dallas is not looking good. 100% chance of rain Tuesday through Thursday, could be 2+ inches each day.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [arby] [ In reply to ]
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arby wrote:
I agree! Why people want to equate this to WTC events I can't figure out.

50/50 Challenge Full! ;-)
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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personally, since 2 of the guys who did 30 IMs in 30 days joined him last night on his run AND personally, unless you've at least done a 30/30, I can't see what any yahoo's opinion on some website thinks about his effort. he did 2 back-to-back IMs without cycling shoes. he dragged a kid around (literally, in a raft) another day. personally i have no standing to judge.

seriously? you're questioning whether he can call himself an IM finisher after 10 days of back-to-back IMs, dragging a kid around on one day, because you judge midnight to be the cutoff? seriously?

It's almost as if you've forgotten what site you are reading and posting on. :)
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [vguy2001] [ In reply to ]
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I did the Rock Cliff triathlon at Jordanele Reservoir in Utah on Saturday. The race director, Aaron Shammy, is a big supporter of James (Iron Cowboy) and his company (RaceTri) will be hosting James' 50th and last Ironman in this journey. Shammy is known for his crazy pre-race speeches. They are legendary. The speech on Saturday was directed specifically at Iron Cowboy. Here's the link: https://www.facebook.com/...ter&notif_t=like

I think that Shammy knocked it out of the park with that speech. I like many would not put money down on the completion of this effort. However, it is clear that he prepared for this challenge and that he is putting his heart and soul into it. Regardless of James' motivation or mental sanity you have to admire him for how hard he is working to get this done. I wholeheartedly hope he makes it and that he proves us all of little faith wrong. One thing I know is that he is a Utah County dude and them people are crazy. It would be very fitting for someone from Utah County to be the first (and only?) to complete this. Good luck James, I am pulling for you buddy.

BTW, if you would like to hear more Shammy speeches you can find them on Youtube, on the RaceTri website or you could come and do Toughman Utah and hear one of his rants (I mean speeches) in person.

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Lock_N_Load] [ In reply to ]
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Boy, no lack of support in Utah!

His team I met with all had a very positive and almost reverential view of James. I don't think any of them think if...they think how and work towards it. Very positive energy throughout the caravan. Go James!
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A little off topic but his performance thus far seems to be much better than Garmin's live tracking. They really had a chance to showcase here.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [vmac] [ In reply to ]
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vmac wrote:
+2

The negativity that gets posted on Slowtwitch bends the mind sometimes. It is almost like some people yearn and pine for someone else's failure. It is truly unbelievable.

That being said, It's been fun, but there is just too much negative energy here and too many new a**holes who post bullshit and lots of great people who used to post all the time who have left or gone underground. I'm out. Life is too short. I'll be in kona. Hope to see some of you there. Paulo knows how to find me.



Well. Bye.

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Lock_N_Load] [ In reply to ]
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That was great.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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kathy_caribe wrote:

seriously? you're questioning whether he can call himself an IM finisher after 10 days of back-to-back IMs, dragging a kid around on one day, because you judge midnight to be the cutoff? seriously?

His whole goal is 50 ironmans in 50 DAYS in 50 sates. A day is 24 hours... 12 AM to 12 AM the next day. Don't finish by midnight = didn't do an Ironman that day.

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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stevej wrote:
His whole goal is 50 ironmans in 50 DAYS in 50 sates. A day is 24 hours... 12 AM to 12 AM the next day. Don't finish by midnight = didn't do an Ironman that day.

Is a day defined as 24 hours or as a calendar day? He is finishing way before 24 hours expires so if you're saying they don't count because he starts at 8am and isn't done in 16 hours there really is no pleasing you.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [japarker24] [ In reply to ]
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japarker24 wrote:
vmac wrote:
+2

The negativity that gets posted on Slowtwitch bends the mind sometimes. It is almost like some people yearn and pine for someone else's failure. It is truly unbelievable.

That being said, It's been fun, but there is just too much negative energy here and too many new a**holes who post bullshit and lots of great people who used to post all the time who have left or gone underground. I'm out. Life is too short. I'll be in kona. Hope to see some of you there. Paulo knows how to find me.




Well. Bye.

sorry that should have been in pink...time honored ST reference
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