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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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I'm a local here in Utah and he's in my Tri club. He is amazing and I know from this end, there is going to be HUGE support for him on day 50. A local race company is organizing it for him that day. Our Tri club president is doing a good chunk of days 47-50 with him. This man simply doesn't stop, and quitting isn't even an option for him. I'm also in for all 50. I plan on joining him for the swim and the final 5k of the run when he brings it home.

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [dogmile] [ In reply to ]
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Long, slow, ultraendurance never get any kind of attention.

There is also a general lack of appreciation of the scope of what's happening here. Dean Karnazes got a good bit of attention for his 50 marathons, 50 days, 50 states. If this were to get real media attention like Dean's (which it won't as Dean K was a hype marketing machine), most folks would not fully appreciate that in addition to Dean's effort of a marathon in every state, this guy is also swimming 1:30 and biking 7:00 each day. And people don't fully appreciate how little time 9 hours is from end of day until beginning of next day.

Long and slow does not get any attention. Which is probably best, because there's always someone willing to go longer and slower.

This guy impresses me. No doubt about it. But, I still can't get past the question of why. Why is he doing this? What is the point? And don't give me this "raising awareness" for whatever. He's doing it for himself, which is fine. But, why? I just don't see it. It's insane. But, good for him. He's awfully impressive.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [klimb] [ In reply to ]
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Just putting this out there for any new mexicans. I think this guy might be the point person for NM https://www.facebook.com/gene.barnett.37

so the swim tomorrow is http://www.mapmyfitness.com/routes/view/633507840 at the Sports & Wellness River Point, a health club - 9190 Coors blvd. NW 87120

bike is http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/628051940 looks like 2 loops

run is http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/628075988 (out and back along some riverway)

(why not link to his blog or website? because i get nothing but white and blank pages and doubt i'm the only one)

FB pages #8 June 13, 2015 (Saturday) – Los Ranchos de Albuquerque, NewMexico
Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/newmexicoironcowboy/
RSVP: https://www.facebook.com/events/378144815705713/


http://harvestmoon6.blogspot.com
https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/katasmit


Last edited by: kathy_caribe: Jun 13, 15 5:48
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [dogmile] [ In reply to ]
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"Unless you want to count the logistic problems. "

This is the part that seems to be lost on so many people: all deca or triple deca ironmen events have been done at one single location. However, doing these triathlons in 50 different states implies a lot of logistical difficulties. You simply can not discount the logistic problems as they are an integral part of this challenge. It is not simply not fair to compare this to the deca ironmen events. Apples and oranges...
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Trirunner] [ In reply to ]
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For sure apples and oranges. On the flip side, he isn't racing anyone and really doesn't have any rules. If someone comes along next year and does a better job organizing logistics and does it faster is that a better result? Say they do point to point routes or actually think about the traveling salesman problem. Would we all say, wow that was some awesome logistics, the support crew should get the "world record" in logistics. Or is it more impressive with less organized (haphazard almost) logistics? How about if the next person comes along and averages 12 hours per ironman and has all that "extra time" for travel is that less impressive? What if the next person took flights between each state... In the context of the triple deca, optimizing for the fastest pace over the duration is the goal on top of finishing. It maybe just as hard to go "fast" over that time period as it is to sleep in the back of a moving car.

I agree apples and oranges, but logistics alone don't necessarily make it harder than trying to race to be the fastest over 30 days.



Trirunner wrote:
"Unless you want to count the logistic problems. "

This is the part that seems to be lost on so many people: all deca or triple deca ironmen events have been done at one single location. However, doing these triathlons in 50 different states implies a lot of logistical difficulties. You simply can not discount the logistic problems as they are an integral part of this challenge. It is not simply not fair to compare this to the deca ironmen events. Apples and oranges...
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kny] [ In reply to ]
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When Lebron James is showing his Johnson to 18 million viewers on live TV, you bet your ass Iron Cowboy has a challenge on his hands for media attention.

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [dogmile] [ In reply to ]
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dogmile wrote:
If it makes you feel better the deca ironman race (10 days) never gets coverage here. Nor did the triple deca ironman race. (30 days) And these were actual races not someone putting in consecutive ironman distance training days. To be honest, he hasn't done anything amazingly special until he is past 30 days. Unless you want to count the logistic problems.

Even much higher profile Scott Jurek's speed record attempt on the 2100+ mile Appalachian Trail isn't getting the kind of dedicated coverage you are talking about in the running community. (~52 trail miles a day for 42 days with 500k feet of climbing) So you shouldn't be surprised that a niche triathlon site isn't spending dedicated hours covering this on the front page.
Deca Ironman? Triple Deca? And here I am wondering if I can pull off one Half. Fair enough; here's hoping he breezes past 30.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [dogmile] [ In reply to ]
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"I agree apples and oranges, but logistics alone don't necessarily make it harder than trying to race to be the fastest over 30 days. "

I have no problem with your statement but do object to the people who say that until he gets to 20 or 30 days he hasn't done anything that hasn't been achieved before. That's simply not true.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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Live in albuqerque familiar with the routes and want to join the 5k and can find nothing on how, when or where to hop on. I guess I could just wait at the 5k mark near the end of the run based on eta from current pace. Any in site from your research?
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [vguy2001] [ In reply to ]
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Watch the NM FB event page. That page should get updated as it gets closer to it.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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I have no problem with Chrome, but glad you were able to navigate enough to figure it out and get on board! Any reserves I may have had vanished once I witnessed the whole operation.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [ In reply to ]
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According to the latest blog entry from his coach, he is on a 10,000 calorie a day diet.


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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [vguy2001] [ In reply to ]
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i would contact that guy I found on FB (scott or something? I'll come back and edit) but he has done a piss poor job on the group page of any event info. if the Garmin tracking is working (still not sure where that updates) then you should be able to see in real time what is going on. however, on the day of the event, you might have better updates in your state on the main FB page. The other thing I'd do is look at all his start times and finish times and then you should be able to get a window of time for the run. i need to make coffee (only got online to see where my daughter's graduation cena is since we're in the midst of a tropical depression) but i'll get back to this asap.


ok, looks like this might be the NM point person https://www.facebook.com/gene.barnett.37

and the FB pages are #8 June 13, 2015 (Saturday) – Los Ranchos de Albuquerque, NewMexico
Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/newmexicoironcowboy/
RSVP: https://www.facebook.com/events/378144815705713/


also, if you click on the "going" thing (is that a link, a word, what? anyway where is says GOING) on this page https://www.facebook.com/events/378144815705713/

you will see 10 other people doing something about NM. maybe the run? no clue. anyway, maybe FB contact them and see what they think? myabe if you join the FB group then you get more info? dunno.

also this guy https://www.facebook.com/tomas.leclerc?fref=ufi said he'd be on the bike tomorrow so he might have an idea of contacts/times.

please give us an inside peek when you come back from the run! thanks and enjoy!

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https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/katasmit


Last edited by: kathy_caribe: Jun 13, 15 5:58
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [nickfresh] [ In reply to ]
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and all of them pale in to insignificance when attempting to set the highest annual bike mileage - http://ultracycling.com/...s/records/data/hamr/

now the interesting thing about this is that Steve Abraham was knocked off his bike, broke his ankle (I think) and has still been putting in the miles - he's changed the way his attempt is being recorded and I don't quite understand it, but none the less, 75,000 miles a year of cycling is quite difficult
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Trirunner] [ In reply to ]
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OMG my boys LOVE Chrome. I missed all the menus from FF though and couldn't deal. i'll try it and see. thanks!

OMG HUGE difference in Chrome! thank you SO much!

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Last edited by: kathy_caribe: Jun 13, 15 6:12
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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ok, time for colorado to shine!

http://www.ironcowboy.co/calendar/colorado

swim at http://www.mapmyfitness.com/routes/view/733684789
CSU-Pueblo Pool

bike http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/647785600

run http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/647788640 (looks pretty maybe by the laked?)

here is the Colorado FB group https://www.facebook.com/.../coloradoironcowboy/

and the point person seems to be https://www.facebook.com/...miller.10004?fref=nf Eric is definitely present on teh FB Group page but it looks like don't expect a quick response.

event page https://www.facebook.com/events/817278628325204/

i can't find any live tracking stuff with garmin since Oregon/Washington so it looks like the most up to date info is at the main FB page unless your state has a good point person

http://harvestmoon6.blogspot.com
https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/katasmit


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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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Followed every link ( thank you); all links appear to be an endless loop, donated my $ (a little scary giving credit card info given the lack of organization), contacted local people listed, posted on FB. Still do not know when and where.

I do have the route and am going to just questimate when to be there and hope I see them. I'm going to go out and ride part of the bike course and may be find support people to ask. I'll let you know.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [vguy2001] [ In reply to ]
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i have seen mentions of 6am starts for swims. i'm thinking around 1.5 hours for swim and T1 maybe. then bikes are around 6-6.5 hours i think and runs around 5 hours. but i don't have the best memory in the world. good luck!

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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Well I want him to do them all.....but after his post a few minutes ago, the end is near. Finishing wearing knee braces, pitting edema and someone working on his body all night. I called it at 12, thinking he may survive today but won't get much further. Amazing attempt, hope he finishes them all somehow.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Mike Alexander] [ In reply to ]
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hmmm... i got a different feeling. like he had a hard night but has what he needs in place to keep going. either way, fun watching and still impressed as hell.

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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You may be correct Kathy, just saw the live streaming and he looked pretty good taking off on the bike!
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [vguy2001] [ In reply to ]
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oh goody! so excited for you! give us an idea of what they need if you can. those of us not even in teh USA would really like to do what ever we can. we're currently sitting under a developing tropical storm right now so can't get out to train. living very vicariously. :)

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Mike Alexander] [ In reply to ]
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where do you find that? i finally found another part of the FB page i didn't know existed - way over on teh left called "posts to page" and this picture from the swim today posted an hour ago. said his shoulder was bothering him.

https://www.facebook.com/...421228414&type=1

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https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/katasmit


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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]
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Andrewmc wrote:
and all of them pale in to insignificance when attempting to set the highest annual bike mileage - http://ultracycling.com/...s/records/data/hamr/

now the interesting thing about this is that Steve Abraham was knocked off his bike, broke his ankle (I think) and has still been putting in the miles - he's changed the way his attempt is being recorded and I don't quite understand it, but none the less, 75,000 miles a year of cycling is quite difficult

Ya and modern day guys should be required to ride 1930s era steel bikes with only 4 gears, with heavy wool garments in the cold, to really reproduce the conditions. If you could average 14.0 mph across the year, 75,000 miles means 14.7 hr/day of actual riding time. Assuming 40 cal/mi, this is about 8200 cal/day not counting basal metabolic needs, so say 10,000 cal/day across an entire year. If you sleep say 8 hr/nt average, then you have to be eating about 625 cal/hr for the 16 hr/day that you are awake!!!


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