Having TrainerRoad record, display AND control a Kickr from an external power meter will only come when Wahoo makes their upgraded firmware publicly available AND TrainerRoad updates their software to work with it.

Felt.... Krispy is not using the Wahooligan App. His KICKR is controlling TR... but the data being recorded by TR is coming from his SRM.

I think :)

That's what I was thinking as well, but wasn't sure. I don't know? I am probably confused as usual. :-)

That's what I was thinking as well, but wasn't sure. I don't know? I am probably confused as usual. :-)

Deselecting "use power from electronic trainer" is the correct setting when using a Kickr with an external power meter. It allows TrainerRoad to record the power from an external power meter and display its power in the "actual power" field. But that's it.

this makes sense to me, but they state the opposite on the website...

"To use the power from your power meter, choose the "Use power from electronic trainer" option"

That is correct. I am not using the Wahoologan App. My Kickr is controlling TrainerRoad and the data being displayed and recorded is from my SRM.

My instructions allow you to calibrate your Kickr to match your power meter. Basically, you get a Kickr that measures power correctly. It's what was promised by Wahoo. No new firmware or Wahooligan app required.

I know my posts have been long-winded and perhaps confusing, but I didn't want people to mess up their Kickrs by skipping a step. I really recommend following my previous instructions closely, but very simply this is how the process calibrates your Kickr:

SIMPLE EXPLANATION OF HOW MY CALIBRATION INSTRUCTIONS WORK:

If your power meter reads lower than your Kickr, then your Kickr is not creating enough resistance. By tensioning the belt, more resistance will be created and your power meter will read higher. Using my instructions, you can use this fact to get your Kickr and power meter to very closely match.

Please use the full instructions, though, as it's important to loosen the tension before you start the calibration to prevent the belt from getting too tight after the calibration. It's also important to not do another spindown calibration after using the belt-tensioning calibration, as that will bring the Kickr back to its original state.

Additionally, I've mentioned that I don't believe it's now possible to control TrainerRoad using the current beta app without the Wahooligan app running as this was clearly stated by a Wahoo rep on this forum. He stated that you might get TrainerRoad to work with the beta tempoorarily, but that it would not be permanent and that the Wahoologan app always would always need to be running. The rep stated that this would change with the finished version of the firmware AND when TrainerRoad integrates the functionality in an update version of their TR software. Perhaps others have found a workaround, but I'm skeptical as there are reports from people in this forum that are achieving functionality that Wahoo and TrainerRoad say just isn't possible at this time.

Hm, I just checked and you're correct that the site says the opposite of what I wrote as far as the checkbox. Strange, as I'm definitely showing and recording power from my SRM with it unchecked. Confusing label. I'll have to experiement with the setting, but as I wrote before all is working well for me with the box unchecked and my SRM and Kickr connected under "devices."

My head really hurts now........ I have an SRM. So I deselected the box in TR (I have been wondering about this since the onscreen instructions in TR clearly say to check it). So now according to Krispy, TR is displaying the watts from my SRM. But my Kickr is controlling TR. So if in ERG mode and with the Kickr controlling TR (meaning the Kickr is paired to TR and is adjusting its (the Kickr) watts (resistance) to correspond with the required watts for the prescribed workout in TR, and if there is a difference of lets say 30 watts between the Kickr and my SRM, then how can the displayed watts be coming from my SRM???? It makes no sense to say TR is being controlled by the Kickr watts but displaying the SRM watts. How does that work if there is a large difference between the SRM display watts and the Kickr control watts? In ERG the Kickr watts will always be forced to the prescribed workouts watts. The SRM watts will still be different.
The whole point of all of this is that the Kickr watts must be the same (or within an acceptable range) to external PM's. The problem is the Kickr watts are not even close in many cases to the external PM's watts for many people.. One would think that there would be a way to adjust the kickr to match the PM. But doing spindowns, calibrations, etc is not working (maybe the belt option does). Another way to do it would be to have the ability to introduce the PM into the loop (so not just Kickr - TR but PM-Kickr-TR) with the PM watt readings replacing the kickr watts so that the PM watts are used to match the prescribed TR workout. But this would only help people who have an external PM. And this does not solve the question/issue of why are the kickr watts so off? There is obviously something very wrong with many of the kickr's and the watts generated or Wahoo would have fixed it by now. We don't see 30 watt differences between other/various external PM"s. The watts being generated by many of the Kickr's are just wrong and there appears to be no way to fix it. Wahoo is just scrambling to find a band aide but they can't...yet.

My head really hurts now........ I have an SRM. So I deselected the box in TR (I have been wondering about this since the onscreen instructions in TR clearly say to check it). So now according to Krispy, TR is displaying the watts from my SRM. But my Kickr is controlling TR. So if in ERG mode and with the Kickr controlling TR (meaning the Kickr is paired to TR and is adjusting its (the Kickr) watts (resistance) to correspond with the required watts for the prescribed workout in TR, and if there is a difference of lets say 30 watts between the Kickr and my SRM, then how can the displayed watts be coming from my SRM???? It makes no sense to say TR is being controlled by the Kickr watts but displaying the SRM watts. How does that work if there is a large difference between the SRM display watts and the Kickr control watts? In ERG the Kickr watts will always be forced to the prescribed workouts watts. The SRM watts will still be different.
The whole point of all of this is that the Kickr watts must be the same (or within an acceptable range) to external PM's. The problem is the Kickr watts are not even close in many cases to the external PM's watts for many people.. One would think that there would be a way to adjust the kickr to match the PM. But doing spindowns, calibrations, etc is not working (maybe the belt option does). Another way to do it would be to have the ability to introduce the PM into the loop (so not just Kickr - TR but PM-Kickr-TR) with the PM watt readings replacing the kickr watts so that the PM watts are used to match the prescribed TR workout. But this would only help people who have an external PM. And this does not solve the question/issue of why are the kickr watts so off? There is obviously something very wrong with many of the kickr's and the watts generated or Wahoo would have fixed it by now. We don't see 30 watt differences between other/various external PM"s. The watts being generated by many of the Kickr's are just wrong and there appears to be no way to fix it. Wahoo is just scrambling to find a band aide but they can't...yet.

Krispy - you used a fairly low power level to set the belt tension but do you know if the new tension means power readings are close at much higher power levels as well? I have an early Kickr and its generally very close to my Quarq, although the variance between the 2 units is not linear - the difference is actually smaller at high power levels than at recovery/endurance levels. I'm thinking a change in belt tension will give a linear change across all power levels?