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I think the relays could be a lot of fun. It could get quite competitive over the years if it was family vs. family thing. I know some people would stack their team with 'specialists' , hunt down the best of the best from across the world, but I guess thats all part of the race. I am not however a huge fan of wave starts. After doing the Kelowna Triathlon last weekend, I had to sit around for three hours and wait for my wave. I don't think the female 60-65 year old age division should get to start bright and early at 7 am while every other male category has to run into them on the swim and bike. How about a pro wave, male wave, female wave and then the relay wave? Make it simple. Start everyone by 7:30. None of this 8 or 9 am bs.
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Re: IMC rumor [tri_kid] [ In reply to ]
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Guess you have better never do Wildflower. Have always had waves, and yep, takes like over 3 hours for us all to go off. No big deal, I just adjust things.

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Re: IMC rumor [Forsler] [ In reply to ]
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Its too bad a person can't express an opinion here about what they prefer for themselves without others suggesting you are foolish for not agreeing with their personal preferences.

Welcome to a forum. If you place your opinion on a site dedicated to people discussing what had gone before you do have to expect both agreement and disagreement. No?

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Re: IMC rumor [tri_kid] [ In reply to ]
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Kelowna has a pro wave that goes after the ag is done in the afternoon.

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Re: IMC rumor [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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I agree in many ways as someone who competed in Ironman Canada 18 times starting back in 1989 long before WTC owned the race, but the name Ironman Canada was always a special name to me, I was proud to say yes I have been to Ironman Canada. Over the years I had many chances to go to other races but as my wife and I fell in love with Penticton and the surrounding area it was the place we loved to go to each summer, doing the race was great but so was the vacation we had after the race, traveling around the area. I was lucky enough to go to Kona 8 times but to me Penticton will always be the special place.
I guess I am sad to see the name Ironman Canada go away regardless who owned the name, if it had not been for my darn illness this year I would have returned to participate in this year’s 30th race as I wanted to reach number 20 but the last couple of years the old body has not been too kind to me so I have not been back to Penticton since 2008, but who knows maybe next year.
So for people who never made it to Ironman Canada and you want a great race in a wonderful area I don’ t think you can go wrong by trying this challenge if it is the Ironman distance race you want to do in a great area. Gosh I sound like a spokesperson for the Penticton but over the years when anyone has asked me about the race I have always said go you will not regret it. I hope that doesn't change... Cheers LA Rob
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Re: IMC rumor [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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WTC alienated the very community that made IMC so special in the first place.


I'm not trying to be argumentative. I honestly want to know. What has WTC done to alienate the community here. I did the race in 2010 and am back this year. Things seem the same to me. I'll likely be back at some point in the future as a Challenge race. We love it up here.

The one thing I've read here is how WTC waited so long to get with the city about the race. Only coming to town this week I think I read. Are there other things that have gone on that I don't know about?

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Re: IMC rumor [hercules] [ In reply to ]
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I agree in many ways as someone who competed in Ironman Canada 18 times starting back in 1989 long before WTC owned the race, but the name Ironman Canada was always a special name to me, I was proud to say yes I have been to Ironman Canada. Over the years I had many chances to go to other races but as my wife and I fell in love with Penticton and the surrounding area it was the place we loved to go to each summer, doing the race was great but so was the vacation we had after the race, traveling around the area. I was lucky enough to go to Kona 8 times but to me Penticton will always be the special place.
I guess I am sad to see the name Ironman Canada go away regardless who owned the name, if it had not been for my darn illness this year I would have returned to participate in this year’s 30th race as I wanted to reach number 20 but the last couple of years the old body has not been too kind to me so I have not been back to Penticton since 2008, but who knows maybe next year.
So for people who never made it to Ironman Canada and you want a great race in a wonderful area I don’ t think you can go wrong by trying this challenge if it is the Ironman distance race you want to do in a great area. Gosh I sound like a spokesperson for the Penticton but over the years when anyone has asked me about the race I have always said go you will not regret it. I hope that doesn't change... Cheers LA Rob

Thanks for your kind words Rob, as a volunteer and local Penticton resident it is people like you that make our job helping out that much more rewarding. I sure hope you get well and are back again next year. As volunteers we also get pretty attached to all of our out of town athletes as well.
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Re: IMC rumor [Mr X] [ In reply to ]
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By the time I was allowed to say what I'd known for a bit, the thread was already too long and crazy...

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Re: IMC rumor [logella] [ In reply to ]
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WTC alienated the very community that made IMC so special in the first place.


I'm not trying to be argumentative. I honestly want to know. What has WTC done to alienate the community here. I did the race in 2010 and am back this year. Things seem the same to me. I'll likely be back at some point in the future as a Challenge race. We love it up here.

The one thing I've read here is how WTC waited so long to get with the city about the race. Only coming to town this week I think I read. Are there other things that have gone on that I don't know about?

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I will happily tell you personally or chat with you wife about it on the breakfast cruise but there is no real point speaking any further about it here as this place tend to throw reason out the window.I'm am sure you are not wanting to start an argument about it but I suspect there are others here who will and quite frankly I can't be bothered to deal with them.

As for full discolsure,anyone who wants to speak to me about it can come and visit with me at Peach City Runners tomorrow and ask me face to face.

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Re: IMC rumor [hercules] [ In reply to ]
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I agree in many ways as someone who competed in Ironman Canada 18 times starting back in 1989 long before WTC owned the race, but the name Ironman Canada was always a special name to me, I was proud to say yes I have been to Ironman Canada. Over the years I had many chances to go to other races but as my wife and I fell in love with Penticton and the surrounding area it was the place we loved to go to each summer, doing the race was great but so was the vacation we had after the race, traveling around the area. I was lucky enough to go to Kona 8 times but to me Penticton will always be the special place.
I guess I am sad to see the name Ironman Canada go away regardless who owned the name, if it had not been for my darn illness this year I would have returned to participate in this year’s 30th race as I wanted to reach number 20 but the last couple of years the old body has not been too kind to me so I have not been back to Penticton since 2008, but who knows maybe next year.
So for people who never made it to Ironman Canada and you want a great race in a wonderful area I don’ t think you can go wrong by trying this challenge if it is the Ironman distance race you want to do in a great area. Gosh I sound like a spokesperson for the Penticton but over the years when anyone has asked me about the race I have always said go you will not regret it. I hope that doesn't change... Cheers LA Rob

Thanks for your post.

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Re: IMC rumor [hercules] [ In reply to ]
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Best post of the 360, imo in that it brings a solid perspective to this tempest in a teapot. It also reminds us to think of people who would do anything to be healthy enough to contemplate doing this race under any banner.

Things change, shit happens and it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings. This is early days in this dispute and there will be a lot of uncertainty in the weeks and months ahead as the issue resolves. One thing that appears to be consistent is what a colossal f/u the responsible parties have made of this and thanks to them, we have a truly entertaining drama in the Okanagan! The future is always uncertain, but one thing is for sure...Sunday's race is going to be AWESOME!!!!!! No matter what kind of distracting hooey goes on, the athletes, the volunteers and the spectators always show the true essence of this fantastic event. Can't wait.
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Re: IMC rumor [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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I will happily tell you personally or chat with you wife about it on the breakfast cruise but there is no real point speaking any further about it here as this place tend to throw reason out the window.I'm am sure you are not wanting to start an argument about it but I suspect there are others here who will and quite frankly I can't be bothered to deal with them.


I understand completely.

Maybe I'll swim over to the boat and we can't chat for a bit on Sunday. :-) The family is looking forward to the cruise.

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Re: IMC rumor [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Sigh, I have to agree with you Dev and hercules et.al. - this is one of the best full-distances races around. It is sad to hear that "Ironman Canada" will no longer be in Penticton. It had a certain... je ne sais quoi about it. When I travel and race, I love wearing my IMC schwag - it's some of the only Canadian stuff I have for racing. However, after IMNZ in 2011 and seeing the WTC schmaltz/schtick/ai-yi-yi/crap going on - including but not exclusive to:

- less value for $ (don't tell me about insurance/permits etc. - I don't want to hear that lame-ass excuse again - now all you get is a cotton t-shirt and a weak-ass medal - in 2005 I had 2 nice shirts + awesome event-branded towel + wicket hat - now it's virtually nada plus a gang-rape in the merch tent);
- a whole lot of "how awesome are we.... go WTC!!! whee!!!" followed up by the WORST pre-race meal offered for that price point (I felt truly bad for those who bought extra tix for family);
- four gabagillion people on course with rampant drafting and little to no officiating...
- I can go on and on here folks...

Yes, the race that finally turned me off WTC events was IMNZ and not IMC but I know that's how it would have gone once Graham was out of the picture. Having done IMC in 2009, even then I could see how things were degrading. I VOWED I would never do another WTC race after IMNZ, so I was really happy to hear about Challenge taking things over in Penticton.

I am very ready for a change. And if WTC ain't gonna change, then I am happy that the full-distance race in Penticton will.

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Re: IMC rumor [AndyPants] [ In reply to ]
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Oh and BTW, I am the ultimate thread-killer on ST (in case you didn't know - you might as well say "Nazis" I'm that good).

:-)

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Re: IMC rumor [tri_kid] [ In reply to ]
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I am not sure if anyone has posted something about this, but what happens to Subaru? Do they get to sponsor the Challenge Penticton or do they just walk away? Might they sponsor the next IMC city? Just curious. Perhaps they are just as confused as everyone else is.


Finally someone is getting to the important issues. I was going to sign up for IMC 2013 but if Subaru is gone there is no way. I will wait until I know what Subaru decides to do.



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must have been important enough for you to respond to it after reading 13 pages of posts. I would think Penticton Challenge is looking for some sponsorships. Maybe you own a business and want to help out?
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must have been important enough for you to respond to it after reading 13 pages of posts. I would think Penticton Challenge is looking for some sponsorships. Maybe you own a business and want to help out?

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Re: IMC rumor [realAlbertan] [ In reply to ]
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yeah, i know. i was there. but i talked to a girl in the elite wave and she said she did not like waiting all morning and starting in the heat. Do you think the pros at challenge should start after everyone else and be forced to pass everyone on the swim bike run? Olympic is a lot different from Ironman. What do they do in Roth?
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must have been important enough for you to respond to it after reading 13 pages of posts. I would think Penticton Challenge is looking for some sponsorships. Maybe you own a business and want to help out?

They contacted me last week about being a title sponsor but I told them I won't make a decision until I know what Subaru is doing.



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must have been important enough for you to respond to it after reading 13 pages of posts. I would think Penticton Challenge is looking for some sponsorships. Maybe you own a business and want to help out?

he does own a business. i think the "frosty junction challenge penticton" would be awesome. i'd sign up for that.
and sometimes people just skip to the end or make a joke.
so why did you think it was so important to chime in to his post?



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Re: IMC rumor [bmeer] [ In reply to ]
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sounds better than the Auquadrat Ironman US Championship.
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must have been important enough for you to respond to it after reading 13 pages of posts. I would think Penticton Challenge is looking for some sponsorships. Maybe you own a business and want to help out?

Good point ! The Challenge Penticton information pavilion will be set up in the SS Sicamous (old sternwheeler vessel at the west end of the beach near Salty’s Beach House restaurant) if you are looking for more information on the race or are interested in sponsorship opportunities and anything else feel free to drop by.
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tri_kid wrote:
must have been important enough for you to respond to it after reading 13 pages of posts. I would think Penticton Challenge is looking for some sponsorships. Maybe you own a business and want to help out?


Good point ! The Challenge Penticton information pavilion will be set up in the SS Sicamous (old sternwheeler vessel at the west end of the beach near Salty’s Beach House restaurant) if you are looking for more information on the race or are interested in sponsorship opportunities and anything else feel free to drop by.

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Re: IMC rumor [tri_kid] [ In reply to ]
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Roth send the pro men, then the pro women, then the sub 9 group, then the elite, then waves not based on age group but finishing time. No logjams on the course at all and Roth probably has the highest number of participants in a race (bike is 2 loops as well).

Another thing is drafting penalties. Challenge Roth is 8 minutes for your first infraction. DQ for your second. Makes people think if it is worth it. I saw very little to no drafing with marshalls all over the course.
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Re: IMC rumor [RobAllen] [ In reply to ]
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Just use the TriCan rules.

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