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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [chainpin] [ In reply to ]
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"OBAMA: We are doing the all of the above strategy right. Obviously, we wish Solyndra hadn’t gone bankrupt. Part of the reason they did was because the Chinese were subsidizing their solar industry and flooding the market in ways that Solyndra couldn’t compete. But understand, this was not our program per se."

Not your program eh Barry?

You are a fraud and a joke, oh, and a bad liar.

http://freebeacon.com/...was-not-our-program/

So his excuse is basically that the Chinese are better at their solar subsidies than he is. ;)


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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [chainpin] [ In reply to ]
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Remind me of what you are trying to prove - that an entire energy policy is not worth pursuing because of one failed company? or that one failed company's business plan didn't work out? you get so many concepts and crystal ball predictions mixed up in all that "I've got a hard core boner for Obama" that just can't keep up.
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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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theforge wrote:
I'm sick of his BS. Even more than I was with Bush. At least Bush took responsibility for some of his failed policies.


which ones?

So you are saying Obama personally authorized the Solyndra loan? BTW I am not saying this was not a huge debacle, but you can't blame the president for everything. Yes, Steven Chu (Secretary of Energy) is a complete bonehead. If you were calling out Obama for not canning Stephen Chu over this, I would agree with you. But since you are blaming Obama himself, you just aren't credible. He is no more personally responsible for Solyndra than he is for taking out Bin Laden.

Yes, Obama appointed Chu. The right thing to do when you put someone in charge of something and they royally fuck it up is to can them.

Pretty much agree that Chu (he's a Nobel prize winner you know) has been pretty incompetent, or politically driven/controlled. Obama has a little more tie to the decision in a way, because big Obama donors and bundlers were involved.

http://azpundit.com/...alize-solyndra-loan/
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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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Remind me of what you are trying to prove - that an entire energy policy is not worth pursuing because of one failed company? or that one failed company's business plan didn't work out? you get so many concepts and crystal ball predictions mixed up in all that "I've got a hard core boner for Obama" that just can't keep up.

This is no policy, its quid pro quo, dollars for dollars horshit, that is what it is.

Obama doesn't care if these companies survive.

He just wants the kickbacks from the power brokers getting the benefit of our taxpayer money.

Now if you guy really want to get into the weeds about how Obama is fucking the WARN claimants, how Argonaut (Kaiser's PE firm--he raised big bucks in 2008 for Soetoro) got preferential treatment after $75M in taxpayer money was subordinated, and how Obama and the DOJ are stonewalling the bankruptcy proceedings, then let's get down to brass tacks.

And now Obama is trying to spread blame around for his failed policy and kick-back activities.

And please don't make me dig up the list I have already posted of the green energy failures due entirely to Barack Husssein Obama.

"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06

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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [theforge] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sick of his BS. Even more than I was with Bush.

That's surprising.

At least Bush took responsibility for some of his failed policies.


Except the important ones like Iraq.
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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [chainpin] [ In reply to ]
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Debating you would be like playing a game of chess with a pigeon. You'd knock the pieces over, crap on the board, and then strut around acting superior.

If you're interested in dialogue, or you know, thinking, try doing some reading just to learn. then go form your viewpoint.

Or if you have a really strong opinion and want to be informed start by trying to build a case against your own opinion.

Try again once you're worth debating.



Some starting points:
Subsidies/tax breaks that exist for non-solar sources of power
Subsidies for solar companies in other countries
Components of solar technology
Changes in China's trade policy over the last 12 months or so
Overall portfolio performance of the legislation that 'subsidized' Solyndra
Externalities
http://www.sfu.ca/~allen/CoaseJLE1960.pdf
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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [chainpin] [ In reply to ]
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So, is it the green energy failures which are in infancy or is it this compsny.

Ps, the public doesn't give a shit aout this or TSA.
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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [SomeWeirdSin] [ In reply to ]
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SomeWeirdSin wrote:
Debating you would be like playing a game of chess with a pigeon. You'd knock the pieces over, crap on the board, and then strut around acting superior.

If you're interested in dialogue, or you know, thinking, try doing some reading just to learn. then go form your viewpoint.

Or if you have a really strong opinion and want to be informed start by trying to build a case against your own opinion.

Try again once you're worth debating.



Some starting points:
Subsidies/tax breaks that exist for non-solar sources of power
Subsidies for solar companies in other countries
Components of solar technology
Changes in China's trade policy over the last 12 months or so
Overall portfolio performance of the legislation that 'subsidized' Solyndra
Externalities
http://www.sfu.ca/~allen/CoaseJLE1960.pdf

That's what I thought.

"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06

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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [chainpin] [ In reply to ]
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chainpin wrote:
tri_yoda wrote:
chainpin wrote:
I find it highly funny thta Obama calls out the subsidies by the Chinese government as a reason that Solyndra went belly up.

In doing this, he highlights exactly why the government was the only reason Solyndra was funded in the first place--because no private investor in their right mind would throw money down that rat hole when it was fully known that the cost advantage vs. China was a non starter.

Obama is a fool.

He thinks he knows hot to allocate capital better than the free market and he has been proven dead fucking wrong time and time again.

But this won't stop the commi moonbats, and socialist shills to STILL continue to believe that their system of organizing an economy is superior to capitalism.

What a joke--failure after failure, and these fools never learn.


In all seriousness, why does everyone let the Secretary of Energy off the hook on this? If you think attacking the President is going to get you anywhere on this, you are the one that is a fool. The best thing that could come of this, is that if people (the media included) would hold the cabinet level person responsible for this fiscal disaster accountable, it would not be unreasonable to force his resignation and/or dismissal.

For a number of reasons Chu needs to be removed. The extent of bad decisions that have come down during his tenure is bad, even by the low bar set by the DOE. The cynic in me says the only reason to keep Chu in his position is so that he can make further colossal mistakes that strengthen calls for dissolving the DOE. I am kind of torn, because I think a coherent energy policy is vital for America, but the history of DOE fucking things up is so bad, we would arguably be better off with no energy policy or DOE as compared to the shit sandwich we have right now.


That's fine if you want Chu replaced, but he is just a pawn, that implements Obama's failed green energy policy.

I can attack Obama on this because it is his policy, it is his decision to invest in these technologies which are doomed to fail.

Hell, you guys know I have predicted this for at least the last couple years and I have the threads to show it.

This was all very predicable.

He's modeled his plan after Spain and other countries that have also failed at the green energy subsidy game.

It's a fucking joke, so don't bring that weak ass shit, that I can't criticize this guy for wasting a measly $500M on Solyndra, because it is not just this debacle that we are talking about, in fact, the fucking list of Obama's green energy disasters is so long when I search on my old posts about it, Dan's servers shit themselves.

And if anyone here wants to challenge me on any of this then step right up, I have a long history of following Obama's failed energy policy, so I'm warning you now, the odds of your success in countering my claims are fucking dead nuts zero.

So here you yoda, my post from May 2010 predicting ALL of this shit: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/..._latest_reply;so=ASC

Waiting.

Are you also predicting the sun will rise tomorrow?

I agree solar subsidies to the level being doled out by the current administration are stupid and a huge waste of money. It did not take any level of intelligence to predict the failure, hence if you want to take credit for predicting this, I am not going to argue with you. Just need to look at the German solar experience to see where this is going.

Do you believe that Obama personally signed off on or had specific knowledge about the Solyndra loan in particular? This is yes or no.

Yes, I agree as chief executive who appointed Stephen Chu he is not absolved from blame. Who do you believe has more personal responsibility for Solyndra? Obama or Stephen Chu?

Are you stupid enough to think you are going to get Obama removed from office with any of your complaints. I will go on record right now and bet you $100 Obama gets re-elected.

I think there is a real probability that Chu could get tossed and some change in policy could be enacted, but again, the legion of morons keep attacking Obama. Ain't going to happen. There is a clear fall guy here, Chu. If he is set up right, Obama is probably smart enough to sacrifice him. Do you really think Obama is not smart enough to recognize what a political liability Solyndra is? If he was given a reasonable out to take another turn, he might do it. Direct attacks on Obama are not going to result in a capitulation on this and a change in direction of policy. Direction of the majority of the blame should be placed on Chu.

Go ahead and blame it all on Obama. All it is doing is causing him and his supporters to do is dig in their heels. In the end, I think you enjoy all these fuckups, because you are just miserable and want to complain about something. I will laugh in November when Obama is re-elected because you and all the other trolls couldn't get behind a reasonable candidate and kept making stupidly misguided critiques of Obama instead of more measured and credible criticism that might have actually accomplished something.
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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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So, is it the green energy failures which are in infancy or is it this compsny.

Ps, the public doesn't give a shit aout this or TSA.

I guess we'll see in November what the public gives a shit about, meanwhile, I will be here to update you on Obama's latest green energy disaster.

"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06

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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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tri_yoda wrote:
chainpin wrote:
tri_yoda wrote:
chainpin wrote:
I find it highly funny thta Obama calls out the subsidies by the Chinese government as a reason that Solyndra went belly up.

In doing this, he highlights exactly why the government was the only reason Solyndra was funded in the first place--because no private investor in their right mind would throw money down that rat hole when it was fully known that the cost advantage vs. China was a non starter.

Obama is a fool.

He thinks he knows hot to allocate capital better than the free market and he has been proven dead fucking wrong time and time again.

But this won't stop the commi moonbats, and socialist shills to STILL continue to believe that their system of organizing an economy is superior to capitalism.

What a joke--failure after failure, and these fools never learn.


In all seriousness, why does everyone let the Secretary of Energy off the hook on this? If you think attacking the President is going to get you anywhere on this, you are the one that is a fool. The best thing that could come of this, is that if people (the media included) would hold the cabinet level person responsible for this fiscal disaster accountable, it would not be unreasonable to force his resignation and/or dismissal.

For a number of reasons Chu needs to be removed. The extent of bad decisions that have come down during his tenure is bad, even by the low bar set by the DOE. The cynic in me says the only reason to keep Chu in his position is so that he can make further colossal mistakes that strengthen calls for dissolving the DOE. I am kind of torn, because I think a coherent energy policy is vital for America, but the history of DOE fucking things up is so bad, we would arguably be better off with no energy policy or DOE as compared to the shit sandwich we have right now.


That's fine if you want Chu replaced, but he is just a pawn, that implements Obama's failed green energy policy.

I can attack Obama on this because it is his policy, it is his decision to invest in these technologies which are doomed to fail.

Hell, you guys know I have predicted this for at least the last couple years and I have the threads to show it.

This was all very predicable.

He's modeled his plan after Spain and other countries that have also failed at the green energy subsidy game.

It's a fucking joke, so don't bring that weak ass shit, that I can't criticize this guy for wasting a measly $500M on Solyndra, because it is not just this debacle that we are talking about, in fact, the fucking list of Obama's green energy disasters is so long when I search on my old posts about it, Dan's servers shit themselves.

And if anyone here wants to challenge me on any of this then step right up, I have a long history of following Obama's failed energy policy, so I'm warning you now, the odds of your success in countering my claims are fucking dead nuts zero.

So here you yoda, my post from May 2010 predicting ALL of this shit: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/..._latest_reply;so=ASC

Waiting.


Are you also predicting the sun will rise tomorrow?

I agree solar subsidies to the level being doled out by the current administration are stupid and a huge waste of money. It did not take any level of intelligence to predict the failure, hence if you want to take credit for predicting this, I am not going to argue with you. Just need to look at the German solar experience to see where this is going.

Do you believe that Obama personally signed off on or had specific knowledge about the Solyndra loan in particular? This is yes or no.

Yes, I agree as chief executive who appointed Stephen Chu he is not absolved from blame. Who do you believe has more personal responsibility for Solyndra? Obama or Stephen Chu?

Are you stupid enough to think you are going to get Obama removed from office with any of your complaints. I will go on record right now and bet you $100 Obama gets re-elected.

I think there is a real probability that Chu could get tossed and some change in policy could be enacted, but again, the legion of morons keep attacking Obama. Ain't going to happen. There is a clear fall guy here, Chu. If he is set up right, Obama is probably smart enough to sacrifice him. Do you really think Obama is not smart enough to recognize what a political liability Solyndra is? If he was given a reasonable out to take another turn, he might do it. Direct attacks on Obama are not going to result in a capitulation on this and a change in direction of policy. Direction of the majority of the blame should be placed on Chu.

Go ahead and blame it all on Obama. All it is doing is causing him and his supporters to do is dig in their heels. In the end, I think you enjoy all these fuckups, because you are just miserable and want to complain about something. I will laugh in November when Obama is re-elected because you and all the other trolls couldn't get behind a reasonable candidate and kept making stupidly misguided critiques of Obama instead of more measured and credible criticism that might have actually accomplished something.

Ahh, yeah, I will take credit for it:

My exact words from two years ago: His energy policy will be a fucking disaster, mark my words.

I sense a bit of angst in your reply, and a big dose of cognitive dissonance.

His green energy policy is a train wreck, while gas prices are through the roof, and now Obama, after the latest poll, is suddenly green lighting part of the Gulf pipeline because he knows he'll be able to convince a few sheep that he is concerned about gas prices, when in reality, he wants prices to go higher.

He's a joke and if you don't think my criticism of his energy policies are justified based on the facts I have presented and his track record of complete and utter failure, then you are just ballwashing for him.

"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06

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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [chainpin] [ In reply to ]
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True leadership is in having the intellectual honesty to admit to a fuck-up and take the blame like a man. In doing so, your critics are less harsh with you and will at least acknowledge a modest and sensible part of your character.

For instance, I am completely perfect. Everything I say here in the LR is 100% correct and all of my critics are 100% wrong all of the time. Except when I realize that my perfection creates envy and silent enemies. Therefore I choose to be occasionally wrong about a trivial matter so as to appear more human and approachable to the liberal and democrat morons of this forum.

In my imperfection I am perfect, but only through admitting my imperfection.


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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [chainpin] [ In reply to ]
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Didn't all these failed companies give huge bucks to Obama's re-election?

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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [MOP_Mike] [ In reply to ]
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Interestingly the DOD is pretty good at this.

We'd be better off finding solutions for renewable energy sources in austere environments. Trucking fuel around Afghanistan (and when we were still heavily in Iraq) is risky and expensive stuff.
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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [Sancho] [ In reply to ]
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Sancho wrote:
True leadership is in having the intellectual honesty to admit to a fuck-up and take the blame like a man. In doing so, your critics are less harsh with you and will at least acknowledge a modest and sensible part of your character.

For instance, I am completely perfect. Everything I say here in the LR is 100% correct and all of my critics are 100% wrong all of the time. Except when I realize that my perfection creates envy and silent enemies. Therefore I choose to be occasionally wrong about a trivial matter so as to appear more human and approachable to the liberal and democrat morons of this forum.

In my imperfection I am perfect, but only through admitting my imperfection.

I saw what you did.

Very sly, substituting the erroneous term moron, instead of the correct and proper word moran, thereby stealthily illustrating the point you were making.

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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]
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Didn't all these failed companies give huge bucks to Obama's re-election?

All these towering disasters have some linkage to Obama fundraising powerbrokers.

Hell, it is so obvious that even ABC news covered the damn story.

But this is something the Obama ballwashing moonbat sheep have no interest in discussing.

He doesn't give a rats ass about green energy.

"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06

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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [chainpin] [ In reply to ]
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Let us examine and analyze how to accept responsibility and apologize for mistakes;

Mojozenmaster: "I fucked up. I am sorry." (this is a traditonal believable apology)

President Obama: "It appears that I have failed to articulate my messsage in a way that the American People can appreciate and understand" (this is an insult dressed up like an apology)

Even Jed, Jethro, Duke, Elly-May and the rest of the Clampett family knows this ^^^^^^ is an insult, not an apology. Most other Americans do as well........obviously saying everyone else who disagrees is too stupid to understand his words.

What a Dick!!


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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [MOP_Mike] [ In reply to ]
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chainpin wrote:
"OBAMA: We are doing the all of the above strategy right. Obviously, we wish Solyndra hadn’t gone bankrupt. Part of the reason they did was because the Chinese were subsidizing their solar industry and flooding the market in ways that Solyndra couldn’t compete. But understand, this was not our program per se."

Not your program eh Barry?

You are a fraud and a joke, oh, and a bad liar.

http://freebeacon.com/...was-not-our-program/


So his excuse is basically that the Chinese are better at their solar subsidies than he is. ;)

No I think he was shooting for "better at central control" than he is.


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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [dave_w] [ In reply to ]
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theforge wrote:
I'm sick of his BS. Even more than I was with Bush. At least Bush took responsibility for some of his failed policies.


which ones?

So you are saying Obama personally authorized the Solyndra loan? BTW I am not saying this was not a huge debacle, but you can't blame the president for everything. Yes, Steven Chu (Secretary of Energy) is a complete bonehead. If you were calling out Obama for not canning Stephen Chu over this, I would agree with you. But since you are blaming Obama himself, you just aren't credible. He is no more personally responsible for Solyndra than he is for taking out Bin Laden.

Yes, Obama appointed Chu. The right thing to do when you put someone in charge of something and they royally fuck it up is to can them.


Pretty much agree that Chu (he's a Nobel prize winner you know) has been pretty incompetent, or politically driven/controlled. Obama has a little more tie to the decision in a way, because big Obama donors and bundlers were involved.http://azpundit.com/...alize-solyndra-loan/[/quote[/url]]

Who appointed Chu? Hurry someone remind me.

Now if only we can get people to pay attention to the other dozens of crazy radicals he has slipped into positions of power and make him answer for their decisions. Lets start with Holder.


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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]
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How does a failed bankrupt company with no money give huge money for reelection to Obama? I think this one might be wrong.
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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [Rodred] [ In reply to ]
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Chu? Radical? I've seen him speak. He's about as radical as a bowl of shredded wheat. You people use throw these words out so often they lose their meaning.
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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [Quel] [ In reply to ]
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Chu? Radical? I've seen him speak. He's about as radical as a bowl of shredded wheat. You people use throw these words out so often they lose their meaning.

Anyone that wants higher gas prices is a radical...a radical asshole.

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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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Do you believe that Obama personally signed off on or had specific knowledge about the Solyndra loan in particular?

Let's just say that Obama bit off more than he could Chu.

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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [Quel] [ In reply to ]
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Your tone of voice and things you may or may not say in public are not the only things that might mark you as radical.

Painting everything white to fight warming might be a start. Thinking we need to drive our economy and our country into oblivion by having outrageous gas prices to force change is a little better start. Taking tax dollars and investing them in failed ideas because you worship at the thrown of inefficient green energy is a big indicator.


Lets go with quirky and out of touch. Would that be more in line with how he thinks?



For his global glucose economy, vast supplies of fast-growing crops would be planted in the sunny tropics. The plants would be converted into glucose. The glucose would be shipped around the world much as oil is today, for eventual conversion into biofuels to run our cars. Wow! What an approach to the energy problem.



Heck that sounds easy especially since there is no infrastructure. How many trees to do you chop down to make room for the plants you will use? How many millions of gallons of fuel a day will this produce?



As Chu explained in a interview in 2007 when he was director of the Lawrence Berkley National Laboratory, “Termites have developed a symbiotic relationship with colonies of bacteria that reside inside a termite’s gut and convert biomass, specifically cellulose, mostly from wood, into chemical energy the termite can utilize.
“If we can learn to either genetically engineer the microorganisms from termite guts, or cow guts…to produce more energy from biomass than they need, or else adapt the chemistry within the microorganisms to process the biomass ourselves, we would go a long way towards reducing our dependency…(on) oil.”

Same questions

He explained in the interview: “We think a solution to the energy problems may lie at the interface between biology and the physical sciences on the nanoscale. We are now mounting a major, multidisciplinary initiative…which would develop ways to convert solar energy into a carbon-neutral form of energy that could sustain our world in an environmentally friendly manner,
“To do this, we are drawing on our expertise in nanotechnology and synthetic biology and the resources…at the West Berkeley Biocenter…and at The Molecular Foundry, a U.S. Department of Energy nanoscale science research center “We believe that a well-conceived program put in place now has the potential to provide the people of the United States with renewable energy security and economic growth for decades to come.”

Broun: “So what grade would you give yourself?”
Chu: “Oh -”
Broun: “A to F, what grade would you give yourself?”
Chu: “There’s always room for improvement, maybe an A-.”


The man is an environmentalist nut who wishes up pipe dreams that have no chance and burn through our money faster than Obama through a cheeseburger when his wife isn't around to smack him in the back of the head.


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Re: Obama Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Solyndra [Rodred] [ In reply to ]
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Rodred wrote:
The man is an environmentalist nut who wishes up pipe dreams that have no chance and burn through our money faster than Obama through a cheeseburger when his wife isn't around to smack him in the back of the head.

How do you know there is no chance? What sort of scientific credentials do you possess to make such a claim versus a Nobel-Prize winner? There is something all of you should know. Winning a Nobel Prize is much harder to do than winning the Kona Ironman. Much, much more competition. I find this discussion amusing.

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