Craig wrote: i responded with >>
Ken,
Thanks for chiming in. You have explained the assertion that mass is not relevant in one sentence. Something the learned mr stern could not do.
Which is exactly my point, and someone else's also. While Mr Stern has been able to talk a lot about equations and what is not clear to most of us, he has not been able to express an answer to the question that was asked.
>>i did answer the question asked about energy expenditure. and my answer remains the same. if you haven't been to a lab, got a power meter, aren't interested in web sites that require you to input some data then here is how to estimate energy expenditure; just think of a number. This is about as useful as the data from a HR monitor, for trying to e.g., calculate energy intake
I still assert, give me something I can really use. For most intents and purposes, a rough estimation of the amount of power I used based on what I weigh and how fast I can usually go is good enough. If I were an elite athlete, I would be doing an awful lot more along the lines of measuring power etc.
>>analyticcycling.com -- that's useful. takes a couple of minutes to enter some data. and a bit of reading up or asking someone for advice on the physics (even me!). you'll also learn about aerodynamics too.
I do not dispute Ric's assertion that the only real way to ESTIMATE effort is to use a power meter. In fact, if I didn't have to feed, clothe, shelter my family I would have one on my bike. However, reality is that not many of us can afford such toys. So give me something I can afford. Equations are not it.
>>the equations at analytic (there are other web sites that do similar data, but *i* like this site the best) are free. what more do you want?
As I recall, this conversation was between me and mr stern. Where as I chose to call it a wash and move on, you wanted to stick your nose in and call me an ass. Someone who can only express themselves in that way may be considered one himself.
>>as ken pointed out, this is a public forum. if you want a conversation with me, then ring me or email me.
I may be belligerant, ignorant, and uniformed. But I don't like being called an ass.
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