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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [FatandSlow] [ In reply to ]
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"I'm having the same problem. Off by 1.5 miles for an hour at 20mph. "

Thanks for letting me/us know!

We have identified the problem, and it's been fixed in a firmware update. We're looking to get the update out to folks as quickly as possible, and I will post up here as soon as we have it & the necessary documentation up online so that you can get it.

We're a very small company, and we just got back from Interbike & have Kona next week, so please bear with us as we work to get the update out to you...


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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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How do you get a firmware update?
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the update. Love this trainer!
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [FatandSlow] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone else have this problem.....when you have your 310XT synced with the power pilot, and you are using your Garmin ANT+ heart rate monitor, the heart rate does not show up on the pilot or the 310xt. When I ride the trainer/and on the road with just the 310xt the heart rate shows up just fine. The problem comes when I sync up the 310xt with the powerpilot. I wonder if it has something to do with the Garmin heart rate not being compatible with the Power Pilot. I have never used the heartrate monitor that comes with the Powerpilot because I have never been able to consistently make it work.

Also, does anyone else have the problem that when you really start cranking, or when you get out of the saddle, the chain begins to slip off the cassette in the back. Everything is fine, but when I put it in the large ring in the front and the 13-15 in the back, the cassette really starts to slip. I have put on a new chain, changed up the cassettes, adjusted the derailleurs, and adjusted the rear dropouts and the skewer, and it still slips. My local bike store told me that this is just going to happen when you have a bike thats rear end is fixed, and you start torquing and twisting the frame by pedaling hard. Is this the case???

"Wait.....and Hope" -Edmond Dantes
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [BambooKing] [ In reply to ]
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Noticed this the other night when I was on the trainer. Had my Power Pilot on, and my 301XT and Garmin HR strap. All was well for the first hour, but then the HR wouldn't display on the Power Pilot. It was still displaying on the 310 though. Also, noticed that the Power Pilot shuts off at the 2:00 hour mark.
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [jwrdds] [ In reply to ]
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"How do you get a firmware update? "

As per response above, we're working on the distribution for this, will post to this thread when it's available.


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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [BambooKing] [ In reply to ]
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"Does anyone else have this problem.....when you have your 310XT synced with the power pilot, and you are using your Garmin ANT+ heart rate monitor, the heart rate does not show up on the pilot or the 310xt. When I ride the trainer/and on the road with just the 310xt the heart rate shows up just fine. The problem comes when I sync up the 310xt with the powerpilot. I wonder if it has something to do with the Garmin heart rate not being compatible with the Power Pilot. "


It's not a compatibility issue, but I can't tell you what it *is* without more info. Please drop me a PM and I will get in touch with you to get more info...


"Also, does anyone else have the problem that when you really start cranking, or when you get out of the saddle, the chain begins to slip off the cassette in the back. Everything is fine, but when I put it in the large ring in the front and the 13-15 in the back, the cassette really starts to slip. I have put on a new chain, changed up the cassettes, adjusted the derailleurs, and adjusted the rear dropouts and the skewer, and it still slips. My local bike store told me that this is just going to happen when you have a bike thats rear end is fixed, and you start torquing and twisting the frame by pedaling hard. Is this the case???"


It's definitely *not* the case.

We had over 300 people ride over 1000 watts on the Revolution at Interbike during our max wattage competition, and never saw anything remotely like what you're describing.

What, exactly, do you mean when you write "...the cassette really starts to slip."
Is the cassette body & cassette moving independently of the drive wheel of the Revolution, slipping internally like a blown clutch, or is the chain slipping off the cassette?


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Tech writer/support on this here site. FIST school instructor and certified bike fitter. Formerly at Diamondback Bikes, LeMond Fitness, FSA, TiCycles, etc.
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [fatbastard] [ In reply to ]
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"Noticed this the other night when I was on the trainer. Had my Power Pilot on, and my 301XT and Garmin HR strap. All was well for the first hour, but then the HR wouldn't display on the Power Pilot. It was still displaying on the 310 though."

thanks for the heads up on the issue, I am forwarding this on to our engineers, and we will follow up to see if we can figure out what's going on. Please PM me with your contact info if you don't mind...


"..Also, noticed that the Power Pilot shuts off at the 2:00 hour mark. "

Fixed in the new firmware update, please see above. I will post up directions on how to get this as soon as I can.

(...and this drove me, personally, crazy so I kicked on doors until we raised the recording interval limit. It's something like 6 hours now...)



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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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PM Sent
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [fatbastard] [ In reply to ]
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PM Sent.

"Wait.....and Hope" -Edmond Dantes
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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I cannot get the power pilot heart rate strap to pair up with other ANT+ units, Garmin 305 or Garmin ANT USB stick. Conversely I cannot pair my Garmin heart rate strap with the Power Pilot. Is the power pilot strap a standard ANT device? Looking forward to the average speed/ distance discrepancy fix.
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [js] [ In reply to ]
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"I cannot get the power pilot heart rate strap to pair up with other ANT+ units..."

The HR strap that is included with the Power Pilot is not an ANT+ unit, so this is to be expected (it *will* work with an uncoded Polar device, however...)


"Conversely I cannot pair my Garmin heart rate strap with the Power Pilot."

This is not a problem that I have heard of or experienced personally. If you haven't tried following the pairing procedure outlined in the manual, please do so. If you have, please feel free to contact us and we will try to find a fix for you - http://www.lemondfitness.com/support




"Looking forward to the average speed/ distance discrepancy fix."


We're working on getting the fix out to people. This will be one of my main priorities when I get back from Kona.




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Tech writer/support on this here site. FIST school instructor and certified bike fitter. Formerly at Diamondback Bikes, LeMond Fitness, FSA, TiCycles, etc.
Coaching and bike fit - http://source-e.net/ Cyclocross blog - https://crosssports.net/ BJJ instruction - https://ballardbjj.com/
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the follow up. Good luck in Kona.
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [js] [ In reply to ]
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Just got the Revolution and Power Pilot. Really nice machine but has anyone had this problem? As far as I can tell, the speed sensor is tripping twice or at least tripping inconsistently, as it is saying that I'm biking at speeds well in excess of 30 mph with little to no effort. So, I'm generating wattages above 3000. Flattering but kinda not true. Any easy fixes?
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [dormouse99] [ In reply to ]
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"...As far as I can tell, the speed sensor is tripping twice or at least tripping inconsistently, as it is saying that I'm biking at speeds well in excess of 30 mph with little to no effort."

That sounds like a bad speed sensor.

Please contact us at -http://www.lemondfitness.com/contact so that we can troubleshoot and (probably) get you a replacement speed sensor.


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Yup. I work for LeMond Fitness.

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Tech writer/support on this here site. FIST school instructor and certified bike fitter. Formerly at Diamondback Bikes, LeMond Fitness, FSA, TiCycles, etc.
Coaching and bike fit - http://source-e.net/ Cyclocross blog - https://crosssports.net/ BJJ instruction - https://ballardbjj.com/
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [FatandSlow] [ In reply to ]
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Same here. My other issue is the automatic shut off at 2 hours. I need to figure that out (it may be on this thread or in the manual).
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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"Conversely I cannot pair my Garmin heart rate strap with the Power Pilot."

This is not a problem that I have heard of or experienced personally. If you haven't tried following the pairing procedure outlined in the manual, please do so. If you have, please feel free to contact us and we will try to find a fix for you - http://www.lemondfitness.com/support

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I use a Garmin HR strap. The Power Pilot is mounted on the front wheel. In order to get the Power Pilot to pick up the signal from the strap I have to get off the bike and crouch down so that the strap is within about 1 foot of the Power Pilot, and hold that courch for 5+ seconds. It does NOT pick up the signal if I am sitting on the bike. Once the Power Pilot has the signal it holds it just fine, whether I am in the aero position or sitting up.

It's a minor PITA but not fatal.

HOWEVER, the inability to do the spindown calibration (in the firmware update?) is really a problem as my unit calculates wattages that are over 8% too high. I cannot intermingle the Lemond Files with PowerTap files in WKO+ as that would mangle important metrics such as TSS, which in turn distorts the Performance Manager.

We need that firmware update! Could you just email it out?

I do love the trainer.













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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [FatandSlow] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone get sweat/moisture underneath the clear screen?
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [KaiserChief] [ In reply to ]
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Had the PP for about 4 weeks and had downloaded data to a memorystick without problems.

A couple of days ago I tried to delete some stored workouts prior to downloading the rest to a memorystick. When I got to the Data Display mode but nothing was showing up - all the values were set at 0 apart from the Watt reading in the top right of the centre square which was reading 01.

I tried to download all the data to a memorystick but got a 'fail' message. I did a reset to factory settings but still have the same problems. I've stored workouts but they don;t show up in the Data Display mode. Any ideas?

Also, couldn't get it to pair to a Garmin 705, is this possible? If not, will an FR60 work?

Thanks
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [Seanos] [ In reply to ]
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Seanos wrote:
Had the PP for about 4 weeks and had downloaded data to a memorystick without problems.

A couple of days ago I tried to delete some stored workouts prior to downloading the rest to a memorystick. When I got to the Data Display mode but nothing was showing up - all the values were set at 0 apart from the Watt reading in the top right of the centre square which was reading 01.

I tried to download all the data to a memorystick but got a 'fail' message. I did a reset to factory settings but still have the same problems. I've stored workouts but they don;t show up in the Data Display mode. Any ideas?

Also, couldn't get it to pair to a Garmin 705, is this possible? If not, will an FR60 work?

Thanks

I have had two episodes where all data was lost, reported this to Lemond fitness last week. I'm not sure this is the cause, but to delete all data is almost the same process as saving all data except an extra push of the up button. I wonder if I could have inadvertently hit the up button while saving and not noticed. Both times were after a 5am interval session so I could have made a mistake. Seems strange to me to require a USB stick to be in place to delete all data, and use the HR/kCal button instead of CLR.

Am I the only one who thinks the data storage is crazy slow? Tonight it took over 25 minutes to store 4 rides, all 1 hour or less duration.
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [js] [ In reply to ]
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You're not crazy, data storage can be crazy slow. And data can disappear. It's a strange little unit right now but maybe the famous "firmware update" will lift it up from the prototype level.


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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Hi there Fredly / anyone,

I have a really dumb question : Is there a lap button? My winter "don't go insane" plan revolves around not having to concentrate too hard, so my chosen sessions I really need to see Power - Lap Average. I'm used to an ergometer where I could set the power (Tacx).

Alternatively, will the PP send data in real-time to a Garmin 705? Or even an 800 (I could be persuaded to upgrade).

Thanks,


Paul
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [ In reply to ]
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Hi, im italian and sorry for the bad English.
The power pilot is bad very because is not compatibile with other ant+ devices such as garmin sensors. There isn't lap button and is not compatibile with goldencheetah.
Power pilot is compatible with the ant+ keys? I would like to use trainerroad.com to avoid power pilot.

lemond revolution is exceptional!!!


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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [giulioitaly] [ In reply to ]
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Power pilot files can be downloaded with training peaks device agent and then imported to golden cheetah.
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Re: LeMond Power Pilot [giulioitaly] [ In reply to ]
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We're going to add support for the power pilot. It spits out the ant data in a different way then regular power meters. We need to get our hands on one and try it out to support it.

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Co-host of the Ask a Cycling Coach Podcast
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