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Re: Retro TT stuff [lacticturkey] [ In reply to ]
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"Over time disks did develop more flex (which is why Tomes disks were numbered & binned after 20races!)"
"A more compliant/shock dampening wheel is the first argument in their favor. It's worth noting that these wheels were first launched back in the day when full suspension bikes weren't a reality in any workable/lightweight form. So wheel compliance was an interesting concept."

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I think a pair of these early Scott bars, factory mounted on a Bianchi "Incline", will help keep these guys get "aero" in the descent.



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Re: Retro TT stuff [obi-one] [ In reply to ]
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You guys bracketed it, '95 Mrs T's Chicago, it was the National champs that year. I just noticed the front brake QR is open, I remember now I slammed a pothole on Lakeshore drive and broke a couple of spokes, the front wheel rubbed the brake for 18 miles of the bike. Thats what I blame for my shitty bike and run split, the shitty swim split was due to following feet and not paying attention where they were going which ended up waaaay off course.

Kevin
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Re: Retro TT stuff [MOP_Mike] [ In reply to ]
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wow, everything improved except for the saddle! Yikes.
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Re: Retro TT stuff [carboner] [ In reply to ]
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wow, everything improved except for the saddle! Yikes.

That's an Adamo with a DeSoto cover. It's sloppy in that pic, but it's actually pretty clean with the flat kit tucked up underneath:


"100% of the people who confuse correlation and causation end up dying."
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Re: Retro TT stuff [BrianLizard] [ In reply to ]
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that carrier might slow you a bit tho ;)


Colnago Pista Prototype




Built for Tony Rominger in 1994 to break his previous hour record. That is a 61t chainring in front. Colnago was years ahead of Zipp with those dimpled carbon disc wheels. This bike was made around the time that the UCI began restricting bike design so it didn't get to see much use.
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Re: Retro TT stuff [alanhawse] [ In reply to ]
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:) at least you would have the colnagos


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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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Back in '86, after Lemonds dramatic 8sec TDF win, I was intrigued with Fignon's System U helmet.
Without much CF fabricators then, I moulded one looking at Fignon's TT pics using plastic & paper mache'.
Then I had a local fiberglass guy make the helmet.
Added my own styro & foam inserts and straps (god help me if I crashed).
Made my own decals.
Would be nice to use in the next local TT or TTT but they probably won't let me.


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Re: Retro TT stuff [lacticturkey] [ In reply to ]
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My GIRO REV IV fairing still legal for use in England!

M@TTY
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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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Firstly my thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.

I spotted this bike at US Age Group Nationals in Tuscaloosa AL last year. Aside from the Zipp front wheel, check out the Cinelli XA stem, a very novel way of getting your seat into an ST-approved position!




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Re: Retro TT stuff [BigBloke] [ In reply to ]
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nice original innovation (if its strong enough) , thought it was one of those seat shifter rails first, looks to me like dad mod'ed his bike for his kid

i like the seat height contrast with the felt, funny how low-tech having the brake cable run over the top tube looks now

' 88 concept
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Re: Retro TT stuff [MOP_Mike] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like you have some weeding to do Mr. Mike
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Re: Retro TT stuff [lacticturkey] [ In reply to ]
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nice original innovation (if its strong enough) , thought it was one of those seat shifter rails first, looks to me like dad mod'ed his bike for his kid

i like the seat height contrast with the felt, funny how low-tech having the brake cable run over the top tube looks now

' 88 concept

Very Cool!

Why can't somebody come out with a saddle like that with built-in hydration. You know, kind of like a Neverreach, but not as ugly...and more aero. ;)


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Re: Retro TT stuff [MOP_Mike] [ In reply to ]
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The original Lotus patent had a section in it for behind the saddle in-built hydration, not a massive fairing though

Xav

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Re: Retro TT stuff [Xavier] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Retro TT stuff [BigBloke] [ In reply to ]
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Thats incredible! Especially next to the b16! Its amazing what you can compete on!

"If you cannot win, at least make the guy ahead of you break the record"
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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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cool seeing those ... they don't seem to like photos or CAD driagrams down at the patent office.
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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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Who's Thomas Fritschen?





Seatposts are sure similar. That Pinarello has more of a Lotus-like front end though. Probably a more aero front end also.

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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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This is from 1917


From 1956


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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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Unbelievably cool sleuthing jeremyb! Tom Fritschen is the guy who's name I could not come up with way back in this thread when I wrote "There was a guy from the San Diego area who was making extremely stiff custom carbon bean bikes (made one for Arron Hartwell)". He would demonstrate how stiff they were by jacking up an old American made station wagon and then letting the tire down on the chainstays. They would support the weight with very little flex! He was also a regular at the San Diego weekly races and of course rode his own bikes.

Cheers,

Jim

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Re: Retro TT stuff [Bio_McGeek] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the back story.

Check out this Porsche bike patented in 1980. Looks a lot like a Lotus. Crazy this is from 1980 though. Lotus did reference it in their patent application.


This is from 2004, a little odd


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Re: Retro TT stuff [Xavier] [ In reply to ]
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The original Lotus patent had a section in it for behind the saddle in-built hydration, not a massive fairing though

Xav

I dont see that actually. Also, I checked the UK patent office and found it here, dont see it there also.

Maybe it wasnt in the patent but on the drawing board and got left off?

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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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Profile aerobars


Aerobars



Not Vintage:
Zipp Dimples

Cervelo P3 circa 2005 filed 2003


Cervelo "Aerodynamic Storage Element" Feb 2008 has not been approved yet


Cervelo Fork with integrated brake has not been approved yet



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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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Cervelo Fork with integrated brake has not been approved yet

My gut feel is that brake design, while it might be aero, wouldn't function very well.

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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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nice aero trike but for the weight weenies ...


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Re: Retro TT stuff [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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Cervelo Fork with integrated brake has not been approved yet


My gut feel is that brake design, while it might be aero, wouldn't function very well.

totally agree, very little leverage on the brake arms. Further down in the patent application is the P4 rear brake though.



These might be better stoppers:


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