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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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Bump and, don't know if mine are considered retro or not: ( still race and ride 2 of them)






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Re: Retro TT stuff [yaquaman1] [ In reply to ]
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Sugino retro time trial crankset. Can be had for only $500, ridiculous.







Although, this looks as aero as my FSA Kronos that came out over 10 yrs later.

Australian Superbike-----looks a lot like a track Lotus with a non aero seatpost. Fork looks identical.



so small--modolo kronos




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Re: Retro TT stuff [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Dave let me know when you guys are ready to let those Superbikes go,they would be a nice addition to my retro collection. I am almost finished with the frame i got from you a few years back.
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Re: Retro TT stuff [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone know if TN still uses this course for districts? It is/was laser measured 40k and super fast.


I've often wondered the same thing, as Bostick's 45+ and Hines' 30+ U.S. TT records are the only 40 km marks not set in Moriarty:

45+ 49:57.98 Kent Bostick, Dunlap, TN, 6/6/99

30+ 52:50.23 Phyllis Hines, Dunlap, TN 6/11/95


The 30+ Master's record is 52:50? Really?

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Re: Retro TT stuff [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Yep (for ladies)

40 km

30+ 52:50.23 Phyllis Hines, Dunlap, TN 6/11/95
35+ 53:01.99 Vickie Marlatt, Moriarty, NM, 8/31/97
40+ 53:01.99 Vickie Marlatt, Moriarty, NM, 8/31/97
45+ 57:01.43 Julie Kaplan, Moriarty, NM, 9/6/98
50+ 59:01.12 Irene Asher, Moriarty, NM, 9/3/95





"Are you sure we're going fast enough?" - Emil Zatopek
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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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Intertech Discet

Hard plastic sides bonded to a tubie. Vintage, I don't remember? Late eighties? Obviously used a freewheel...I'm thinking of building up a retro TT ride.
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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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One of my favorite slowtwitch geek threads!

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Re: Retro TT stuff [Bio_McGeek] [ In reply to ]
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Two words: Chet Kyle. When EDS started what eventually became Project 96 we were going in the direction of the Zipp 2001. We were in conversation with Andy Ording at Zipp about having custom versions made. Also, had various prototypes made in steel by Dan Wynn. There was a guy from the San Diego area who was making extremely stiff custom carbon bean bikes (made one for Arron Hartwell) and these ideas were all on the table. When Chet got involved in the project all he wanted to do was build this bike, which was essentially a slightly updated version of a prototype for 1986 or so. You can find pics of the original moc-up in one of the old Cycling Science articles. No amount of wind tunnel data would convince him that there were better designs.
Chet also would not entertain ideas regarding changes in rider position. No steep seat tubes even though it was legal then. Also, we knew about the superman position but Chet and Ed Burke would not give it a chance. Superman position was a well kept cycling secret but one of the engineers at GM, a guy named Bill Surber found a picture of superman position being tested in an Italian language aerodynamics journal. I still have the xeroxed picture he gave me in a box somewhere. Could we try it with the US cyclists? No way.

Cheers,

Jim

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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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No, that is one of the '96 bikes. Go way back to the first few issues and you'll see the original. If I recall correctly you will see Dave Grylls or Steve Hegg sitting on the bike.

Cheers,

Jim
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Re: Retro TT stuff [Bio_McGeek] [ In reply to ]
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The original mock up was a beam bike?

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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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The original mock up was a beam bike?

The bike in the image you just showed was an early product of project 96. It was an aluminum frame bike welded up by Forrest Yelverton of GT. He's a very cool guy with a masters in metallurgical engineering if I recall correctly. Anyway, if you go way back in the archives of Cycling Science, you will find an article with prototype bikes from (I think) 1986. One of those looks a lot like the '96 bike.

In your comment above are you saying there was a beam bike in that article? If so, please post.

Cheers,

Jim
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Re: Retro TT stuff [Bio_McGeek] [ In reply to ]
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There's these???



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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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YES! The one on the lower right is clearly an early version of what ended up being the 96 Olympic bike. Note in the figure caption he says it was not as aero as the other prototype. Interestingly the one in the upper right looks a lot like a Lotus. These prototypes were built by Don Guichard who's day job was building composite structures for satellites. He now works for Cervelo. I believe he was involved in the final 96 bikes as well.

Cheers,

Jim
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Re: Retro TT stuff [Bio_McGeek] [ In reply to ]
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YES! The one on the lower right is clearly an early version of what ended up being the 96 Olympic bike. Note in the figure caption he says it was not as aero as the other prototype. Interestingly the one in the upper right looks a lot like a Lotus. These prototypes were built by Don Guichard who's day job was building composite structures for satellites. He now works for Cervelo. I believe he was involved in the final 96 bikes as well.

Cheers,

Jim

Yes totally. Thanks for the history lesson, much appreciated.

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Re: Retro TT stuff [djciii] [ In reply to ]
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It is amazing how much easier it is to get down in that good aero position with a smaller front wheel..........has anyone ever raced (in this forum) with a 650 up front and a 700 in the back??



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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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I just got my Cycling Science archive CD. Is this it?






That bike made me want a GT Vengeance sooooo bad when I was in middle school. To this day i still want a GT Vengeance.


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Re: Retro TT stuff [cabdoctor] [ In reply to ]
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There are two on ebay right now:

one

two

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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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You are awesome my man! I just wish they were my size, I ride a 52cm road bike.
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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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From my picture archives....
Sorry about the spacers...no knowledge of bike fit then.
...just after Lemond's 86'tour...had it for five years, first edition Scott's & Unidisc.

Slingshot in '89...Tim Deboom & Michael Tobin were winning on this...

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Re: Retro TT stuff [campled] [ In reply to ]
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That Slingshot seems like it would be fast with a wire for a downtube until you see this:



Airfoil can be 10 times wider than the wire and have equal drag.

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Re: Retro TT stuff [campled] [ In reply to ]
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That Slingshot is cool. This may be one of the best threads on here.
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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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Hello jeremyb and All,

Man do those bikes look nice!!

Cheers,

Neal

Cheers, Neal

+1 mph Faster
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Re: Retro TT stuff [Jeremy CX] [ In reply to ]
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So how are there no Zipp's on here??? (I stole many of these from Slowtwitch posts, if you would like me to remove your bike please let me know)











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Re: Retro TT stuff [jeremyb] [ In reply to ]
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Zipp frame, Zipp bars, Zipp cranks, and.............HED WHEELS?!?!?! WTH?!
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Re: Retro TT stuff [nealhe] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone that likes this old stuff, I would recommend the Cycling Science Archive DVD. Not as much bike pjorn but fun stuff like this (taken from the what's new column):



This is from Sports Illustrated (January 1990):



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/...MAG1069309/index.htm

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