I wear tri shorts--Descente short shorts. I love them. I also just bought assos creme--wow! That makes a difference!

I don't know about shaving. I've heard it helps. Does anyone wax? I was thinking about it for the summer ride season.

Hmmm. I, too, love my Zoot Ultra tri shorts but I don't find them long at all. They ARE slightly longer than my DeSotos (which I also love), but those are SUPER short.