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how are you playing these days?

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Our poker league had their final table on March 12th. It could be a while before I play again.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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ACR
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Re: Any Poker Players on the Board? [TimeIsUp] [ In reply to ]
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Safe? Available in US? I’m not up to date on laws.

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Yes! played the main event 3 times at Binions cashed twice, huge amounts of fun..
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ericMPro wrote:
Safe? Available in US? I’m not up to date on laws.

safe as you aren't breaking the law, yes. safe as in free of bots, collusion, and other non-regulated mischief - debatable. yes, you can play from US. i certainly wouldn't put any money on there you are afraid to lose, but I'd say the same about Pokerstars and Party Poker, albeit with more confidence of better regulation and oversight.
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TimeIsUp wrote:
ericMPro wrote:
Safe? Available in US? I’m not up to date on laws.

safe as you aren't breaking the law, yes. safe as in free of bots, collusion, and other non-regulated mischief - debatable. yes, you can play from US. i certainly wouldn't put any money on there you are afraid to lose, but I'd say the same about Pokerstars and Party Poker, albeit with more confidence of better regulation and oversight.

Wait, which one has more oversight? PS and PP?

That’s the think about poker, you don’t play with money, you play with units. If it’s money like you said you don’t play...

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ericMPro wrote:
how are you playing these days?

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I think Monty is, or was, a player. If I remember correctly there were some posts regarding online play back when it was okay. I only play blackjack so I can't help.

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Re: Any Poker Players on the Board? [ericMPro] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, I would trust PP and PS a lot more, but you can’t play on those sites from US.
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Yes, I would trust PP and PS a lot more, but you can’t play on those sites from US.

This is the relevant bit... do you know why?

Also, help me understand the cash game landscape, to know what I don’t know so to speak. I’m completely out of the loop on player tracking software, the mathematical “stock market” aspect of volume and brute force decisions vs. normal live poker where things move at a normal pace and the dynamic is the usual live cash game dynamic.

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Yes, I would trust PP and PS a lot more, but you can’t play on those sites from US.


This is the relevant bit... do you know why?

Also, help me understand the cash game landscape, to know what I don’t know so to speak. I’m completely out of the loop on player tracking software, the mathematical “stock market” aspect of volume and brute force decisions vs. normal live poker where things move at a normal pace and the dynamic is the usual live cash game dynamic.

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Sorry, had to go to work and see the carnage from our idiot governor finally issuing a shelter in place but people not understanding they can go grocery shopping anytime they want. Shelves blown out yet again.

Why I would trust PS and PP a lot more? They are regulated and invest the resources to keep their games fair as well as have a player pool that is always on the lookout for collusion and bots.

Why can't the US play on them? Long story short, Black Friday happened when some legislation was slipped into a bill at midnight and passed without any members of congress having time to read it. Not saying they would have cared anyway, but it was hogwash the way it went down. Basically named poker as gambling instead of a game of skill which made the transfer of money from player to site illegal. Owners of sites were arrested and payment processors were fined and shut down. Players did nothing illegal (same as with ACR today) so they were always in the clear, although many of us had funds in particular sites (PS and Full Tilt) frozen. All money was eventually returned to players years later after the court cases were settled.

ACR operates in a sketchy area for them and their payment processors who allow US players to transfer funds to their site. I have only deposited once and used one of my credit cards. I forget who was listed as the vendor, but it most certainly wasn't America's Card Room. Most everyone I know who deposits and withdraws often uses BitCoin as that is the quickest method. Again, they are violating the law as well as anyone (including my CC company, unknowingly) who allows us to get money onto their site. That is the rub. They aren't regulated in the same way as PS and PP and have no incentive to because they allow US players to deposit and play. PS and PP comply with the current laws and refuse US players. Unfortunately ACR is what US players have at the moment. Some also play on the GG Poker Network which has a couple of different skins (sites), but I am not at all familiar with those.

As far as player tracking software - PP recently stopped allowing players to use HUDs (Heads-Up Displays - tracks every statistic you can think of on every player). They even went a step further to allow everyone to change their usernames and will probably do some again in the future. This rendered all results tracking sites useless as well. They are doing everything they can to protect their player pool.

PS and ACR still allow HUDs and you are at a significant disadvantage if you choose not to use one. However, if you aren't using it the right way it could actually make your "reads" worse. For example, if you don't know what the hand range is for a player with an early position VPIP (voluntarily put in pot) of 21% then it doesn't do you much good and if you misinterpret this range, it could make it even worse.

Online poker has been infiltrated by computer science nerds because it is a relatively solvable game if you know what to do with the stats by using them to exploit other players weaknesses or "leaks". Online cash games are incredibly difficult. I've heard people say an online .10/.25 game is tougher than a live 2/5 game.

Like I said, I wouldn't put a dime on there you aren't willing to lose. I would challenge any politician that thinks poker is gambling to play some of the online wizards. They will quickly learn it as complicated as chess. A better analogy might be backgammon because of the dice. Sure, there is a component of luck to it, but in the end the players making the decisions with the most expected value will come out ahead. Maths is cool like that.

Hope that helps a bit.
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I did a stint as a mid stakes limit holdem pro. About 18 years ago. Quit, only to come back to play Pot limit Omaha high for another year later. Have not touched the deck online or in a casino for 10 years plus.

I play a charity tourney sometimes, but I only bring enough cash to rebuy once. I have the degen gene in me, going back many generations. It is something I have to tight rope walk every day.

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I did a stint as a mid stakes limit holdem pro. About 18 years ago. Quit, only to come back to play Pot limit Omaha high for another year later. Have not touched the deck online or in a casino for 10 years plus.

I play a charity tourney sometimes, but I only bring enough cash to rebuy once. I have the degen gene in me, going back many generations. It is something I have to tight rope walk every day.

thanks.

I thought I had that similar family history as well because of my Dad, and so for years avoided anything to do with gambling like the plague because I was very afraid, not to mention when you don't know the rules or norms of a place, it's scary. Come to find out I had a mild amount of talent (nothing like yours... 2/5 and 5/10 occasionally) for NLHE and that the things I need to worry about and the elements of NLHE were completely different, with the exception being my biggest weakness is correctly assessing a situation, knowing what to do, and then not having the courage to do it, this research project included perhaps. The positive aspects of that worry are that I can focus efforts into things like endurance sports

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Re: Any Poker Players on the Board? [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. Helps understand the environment.

Now I need to to know what I don’t know and decide to play or not

Do you play?

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I found myself teaching my 8 year old how to play the other day. Am I a monster?

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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I found myself teaching my 8 year old how to play the other day. Am I a monster? //

Ha, I've been playing with my 8 year old(now) for 3 years!! And now his 5 year old brother is in the game too. If you are a monster, then I must be Hitler!! Really though, it has been great for them as far as doing math, my son is the best in his 3rd grade class, and he can rattle off %'s like a 6th grader already. And it is something tangible for us to do together, keeps their heads out of the iPads. We also play monopoly, so he is getting his real estate chops trained early too.


As for real poker, yes I go to the World Series most years and play a few of the tourneys,. we have(well had) a pretty vibrant home game series once a month, with a season ending final table with over 10k. About 50 players or so, 35 t0 40 on a given month. I was about 5th or so in money earnings last year, and only played 4 times. Gonna miss it this time around, they had one and now this.. Went pretty deep last year in the World Series Super Seniors last year, all the way to a few hours into day 3. Ended up 87th out of nearly 2900 I believe it was. Unfortunately it was the only game I could play there last year, as had the whole family, and a friends family there for a vacation.40+ hours of poker in 3 days was about all my wife would allow, but she was happy that it paid for the trip and then some!!


I was really getting into online playing before Black Friday, was a great way to make a few extra bucks while hanging out. It would have been great now too with the afternoon downtime with all the kids, but that ship sailed and has not yet returned to CA. So I do play some PS play money to stay sharp now, and that is going to be it for quite sometime I'm afraid. No way they are doing the World Series in Vegas this year, it is a may/June thing, just dont see that happening. Maybe they will rush through a national opening of online again, instead of the few states that are piecing together small state games..

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I found myself teaching my 8 year old how to play the other day. Am I a monster?

I am teaching my young kids fire and maneuver so ?

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I found myself teaching my 8 year old how to play the other day. Am I a monster? //

Ha, I've been playing with my 8 year old(now) for 3 years!! And now his 5 year old brother is in the game too. If you are a monster, then I must be Hitler!! Really though, it has been great for them as far as doing math, my son is the best in his 3rd grade class, and he can rattle off %'s like a 6th grader already. And it is something tangible for us to do together, keeps their heads out of the iPads. We also play monopoly, so he is getting his real estate chops trained early too.


As for real poker, yes I go to the World Series most years and play a few of the tourneys,. we have(well had) a pretty vibrant home game series once a month, with a season ending final table with over 10k. About 50 players or so, 35 t0 40 on a given month. I was about 5th or so in money earnings last year, and only played 4 times. Gonna miss it this time around, they had one and now this.. Went pretty deep last year in the World Series Super Seniors last year, all the way to a few hours into day 3. Ended up 87th out of nearly 2900 I believe it was. Unfortunately it was the only game I could play there last year, as had the whole family, and a friends family there for a vacation.40+ hours of poker in 3 days was about all my wife would allow, but she was happy that it paid for the trip and then some!!


I was really getting into online playing before Black Friday, was a great way to make a few extra bucks while hanging out. It would have been great now too with the afternoon downtime with all the kids, but that ship sailed and has not yet returned to CA. So I do play some PS play money to stay sharp now, and that is going to be it for quite sometime I'm afraid. No way they are doing the World Series in Vegas this year, it is a may/June thing, just dont see that happening. Maybe they will rush through a national opening of online again, instead of the few states that are piecing together small state games..

Monty, what are your thoughts about online cash games?

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This was weird, I saw this old thread pop up, clicked on, and yours is the last post on April 4th. Perhaps this Melanie who brought it back up is a spammer and got deleted..

Anyway it looks like I never answered your question on online cash games. In general, cash games are entirely different than a tourney. Tournaments are all about gathering chips, while not making that one fatal mistake. It is a more straight forward game, some bluffing, but pretty close to ABC poker. Cash games are the Wild West, way more bluffing, and way more hero calls. You have to really loosen up your starting ranges, as a hit on marginal hands, usually nets you a very big pot. And that is the hero call portion of the game, anyone with resources will just reload after having to see your hand. Tournament play of course does not allow that, so starting ranges are a lot tighter.

The trick in cash, is to find the players that play it like a tournament, then you can exploit them. Whenever I sit down to cash, I just play pretty tight for awhile, until I get the feel of the table and players. Some tables are like bingo, all ins every other hand. Some with a lot of old timers like I played in the World Series last year, and you have to really work to get them to give up a big pot. Playing the player is way more important in case, sometimes you have to get away from the %'s and take more risks..

Since this was back in early April, did you ever get into any live games?? If so, how did you do??
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BLeP wrote:
I found myself teaching my 8 year old how to play the other day. Am I a monster?

My kids know what are good starting hands from watching me play.
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I just play fake money on PS. Scratches my itch.

Our neighbors and friends since we can’t gather anymore play on PS as well. We just have a private home game. We just PayPal the money to the guy organizing and he distributes the winnings back with PayPal
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This was weird, I saw this old thread pop up, clicked on, and yours is the last post on April 4th. Perhaps this Melanie who brought it back up is a spammer and got deleted..

Anyway it looks like I never answered your question on online cash games. In general, cash games are entirely different than a tourney. Tournaments are all about gathering chips, while not making that one fatal mistake. It is a more straightforward game, some bluffing, but pretty close to ABC poker. Cash games are the Wild West, way more bluffing, and way more hero calls. You have to really loosen up your starting ranges, as a hit on marginal hands, usually nets you a very big pot. And that is the hero call portion of the game, anyone with resources will just reload after having to see your hand. Tournament play of course does not allow that, so starting ranges are a lot tighter.

The trick in cash, is to find the players that play it like a tournament, then you can exploit them. Whenever I sit down to cash, I just play pretty tight for awhile, until I get the feel of the table and players. Some tables are like bingo, all ins every other hand. Some with a lot of old timers like I played in the World Series last year, and you have to really work to get them to give up a big pot. Playing the player is way more important in case, sometimes you have to get away from the %'s and take more risks..

Since this was back in early April, did you ever get into any live games?? If so, how did you do??

Never did play. Homeschooling took all of my energy and also satisfied all of my yearning for challenge and purpose. Summer has been busy with new hobbies. I do need to revisit this however, could stand to make some money somehow.

I'm very well versed in how to play cash games, and did well enough at 2/5 and 5/10, but online is a different beast altogether. Can't get the read of the players as well and not to mention the online/mathematical/volume/multi-table aspect of it all. Don't know what platforms, software, etc. to use. Don't know what I don't know IOW.

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