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Re: Southwest Flight 1380 [gotsand] [ In reply to ]
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gotsand wrote:
big kahuna wrote:
"Explosive decompression" is somewhat of a myth,


I suppose you included 'somewhat' to include decompression accidents like those involving commercial saturation divers? Admittedly very different circumstances than those occurring on an airliner, but it's no myth.

This is from an account of such an accident on the North Sea in the 80's. "Subsequent investigation by forensic pathologists determined Hellevik, being exposed to the highest pressure gradient, violently exploded due to the rapid and massive expansion of internal gases. All of his thoracic and abdominal organs, and even his thoracic spine, were ejected, as were all of his limbs. Simultaneously, his remains were expelled through the narrow trunk opening left by the jammed chamber door, less than 60 centimetres (24 in) in diameter. Fragments of his body were found scattered about the rig. One part was even found lying on the rig's derrick, 10 metres (30 ft) directly above the chambers."

I did exclude it for that reason. Sat diving and decompression is of a different physical and physiological character than that seen when a pressure vessel like a commercial airliner's fuselage is holed. In the case of an airliner's decompression, the pressure between the cabin interior and the outside air usually equalizes so rapidly that the fuselage -- which expands and contracts with pressurization cycles -- is able to survive the insult. Because it's much hardier than the human body by far.

Here's a photo of that famed Aloha Air flight that suffered probably the ultimate in decompression from damage to the fuselage (it managed to land safely):



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Re: Southwest Flight 1380 [gotsand] [ In reply to ]
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gotsand wrote:
All of his thoracic and abdominal organs, and even his thoracic spine, were ejected, as were all of his limbs. Simultaneously, his remains were expelled through the narrow trunk opening left by the jammed chamber door, less than 60 centimetres (24 in) in diameter.


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Re: Southwest Flight 1380 [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
gotsand wrote:
All of his thoracic and abdominal organs, and even his thoracic spine, were ejected, as were all of his limbs. Simultaneously, his remains were expelled through the narrow trunk opening left by the jammed chamber door, less than 60 centimetres (24 in) in diameter.



Yeah, I don't think average people have any idea how truly dangerous saturation diving can be.

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Re: Southwest Flight 1380 [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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Or how lucrative it can be, "Saturation divers make up to $45,000 – $90,000 per month and over $500,000 annually.".

Then again working a value turn away from becoming strawberry jam better earn one impeccable compensation.
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Re: Southwest Flight 1380 [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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big kahuna wrote:
gotsand wrote:
big kahuna wrote:
"Explosive decompression" is somewhat of a myth,


I suppose you included 'somewhat' to include decompression accidents like those involving commercial saturation divers? Admittedly very different circumstances than those occurring on an airliner, but it's no myth.

When putting numbers to the different scenarios of diving and flying.. The cabin pressure of an airliner is usually 11 or 12psi. Outside would nominally be 6-7psi at 20,000'. With the velocity of the plane, pressure could be much less but there is absolutely no way of getting right outside the window down to 0psi (total vacuum). That 12psi delta pressure (max) is not enough for explosive decompression... However, getting thrown around by hanging half out of a window by buffeting wind speed of 500mph is more than enough to do huge damage.

Diving, delta pressures are WAY WAY WAY higher. Even small pressure area's generate huge forces..
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Re: Southwest Flight 1380 [MTBSully] [ In reply to ]
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Nothing on this yet? Sounds terrifying. fro the pictures people don't listen to the pre flight safety briefing, no one has the mask over their nose.

http://www.foxnews.com/...t-with-shrapnel.html

Reports now emerging are saying the female passenger died of impact trauma.

Also, it's looking increasingly like the engine suffered a failure due to metal fatigue, with one of the engine blades snapping off from the turbine's hub and puncturing the fuselage.

"Barely a day after an engine blew up on a Southwest 737 jet at 30,000 feet, killing one passenger and hurting seven others, the National Transportation Safety Board has identified the likely cause: metal fatigue that caused one of the engine blades to snap off and puncture the fuselage.

Speaking at a late-night briefing at Philadelphia, where the crippled Flight 1380 made an emergency landing, NTSB Chair Robert Sumwalt said agency experts made a preliminary examination of the engine and found that “there’s evidence of metal fatigue where the blade separated from the hub." He added that a chunk of the engine cowling was discovered some 60 miles away from the airport."

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