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Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge
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So this morning I stepped on the scale and had a shock...193lbs. Over the past few years I've been carrying around an extra 20-25lbs easy and I have decided it is time to lose it for good. Many on this forum participated in the speedy's weight loss challenge last spring, so I'm proposing we start it up again with some real incentive to lose the weight. On the way to work I brainstormed about what could drive me to succeed this time - here is what I came up with:

- Goal: 170 by Dec 31, 2006

- I assume because of the popularity of the last one there might be some who want to join. My incentive is this - if I don't make 170 by Dec 31 I will send $20 to anyone who joins this challenge, posts their current and goal weight, and makes their goal by Dec 31.

If there is enough interest I will put a chart up on my site similar to what speedy did. Anyone in?
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. I am traveling for work until the end of the week, so i will weigh in when i get back. My target is 91kg and i am pretty sure that i am about 102 at the moment.

Do we all send cash to each other if we fail?

Is this one of those guaranteed earner pyramid things? Sounds like fun...
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [oddjob] [ In reply to ]
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Cash or check :)
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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" ... so I'm proposing we start it up again"

As a wellness and fitness coach, I propose we create some 'rules' (guidelines) which can help people lose the weight and keep it off. These guidelines will create energy-efficiency and can suffice for everyday -- on season and off-season. I can help create these --they work!

Anyone interested?

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in - I've ballooned since my last IM..weighed in at 87.5kg - goal is 79
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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sure yes - the keeping it off is the hard part
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in.

6'1", 215 right now. I'd like to be down to 190.

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in, preping for IMAZ and I really could lose 20lbs. Right now, 6ft 217lbs. Anything under 200 would put me the lightest I been since...well a long time ago, maybe 20 years. The only downer would be that I wouldn't qualify for the clydes, that's a chance I will have to take :-).

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. I was 187 yesterday.

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [jasonk] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in - 180 now goal is 170.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. New baby has ruined my diet and training.

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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I don't have 20 to lose, but could use some incentive to take off 5-10 and keep it off through the off-season. I notice a huge difference in the stress on my knees while running from just the additional 5 pounds. It is going to be an extremely run-centered winter so I have to be careful.

Lauren- I'd be very interested in any insight you could offer from your experience as a fitness coach :)

Current 122 Goal 115 (I'm 5'3")
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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Bring it on !!!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in: 70k at 1.74m, goal would be 63k.

Lauren, I am particularly interested in making the balance between eating enough between the various levels of training and non-training cycles.

Not sure how I get the money over to the U.S. but I am sure there are ways and means if Pay Pal doesn't work for the challenge.


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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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I think there needs to be a "lose the last 10 lbs" challenge.

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I am INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.

Current weight (before Smith and Wolensky yesterday AGGGGG) 196.5lbs

Target weight 179 lbs

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in, but I'm not paying anyone 20$ a piece. Figure if there's 50 or so people like last time...my wife would kill me.

I'll report a weight mid week next week. With IMWI coming any weight I give will be a tad wierded out.

I'm guessing I'm around 160-165 and would like to get down around 145-150. I think I only lost 3-5 on the last go around.

~Matt
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [glitch] [ In reply to ]
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This can be a "lose the last ten lbs" challenge if you want. The purpose is to have tangible motivation for losing the weight - i.e. $20 to each person that succeeeds if I don't.

Looks like I'm going to be putting up page where you can track and enter your weight - hopefully by end of week...
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [MJuric] [ In reply to ]
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It's only $20/person if you don't lose it :)
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. I'm currently 166. My goal is 150 by Dec 31.

I think everyone should come up with their own reward/punishment like we did with Speedy's challenge. I gotta do some thinking about what mine will be. I want to find the right thing to motivate me.

Lauren - we would love to hear any and all things you have to help us out (as well as anyone else out there with tips).

Dawn
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I won't be able to join you, but I will cheer you on. You made me wonder about the last challenge though.

Who has managed to keep their weight off?

I went from 146 lbs to 129 lbs, and am currently 132.

Don't want to hijack your thread, but it may be enlightening as you embark on another similar venture.

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Schwingding] [ In reply to ]
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I only lost 5 lbs in the last challenge, so I'm not a good representative. But, I've managed to keep it off so I'm happy with that. There were some threads in the past couple of months about a 6 month check-in for that challenge. If you do a search, I'm sure you'll find them. Congrats on your success!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in for 10lbs. I'm currently at 150lbs, fighting weight is 138, but I'd be happy with 140.

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in for 10lbs. Want to get to 140lbs. I was 138 for IMWA, but don't really care about 2lbs. Just want to fit into my favourite pants again. :-(

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in, though it should be the 40 pound challenge for me
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [mayday] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in...

Currently 166lbs...

I've taken about 1 1/2 yrs off from triathlons. Planning on starting up again in 2007.

Will be signing up for sprint, international and 1/2 IM races and ending the year with IMFL.

Good race weight for me is 145-150lbs
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [heykev] [ In reply to ]
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I'm interested. Let me weigh myself at the gym later and I'll post my current weight and my goal. That said, I want to add a few pounds of muscle at the same time.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Schwingding] [ In reply to ]
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I won't be able to join you, but I will cheer you on. You made me wonder about the last challenge though.

Who has managed to keep their weight off?

I went from 146 lbs to 129 lbs, and am currently 132.


I went from 183 to 161 during the challenge. I'm currently 155. ("After" picture in the "Awards Ceremony" section of the page at http://www.clevetriclub.com/cleveland-tri-2006.html )

I'd like to participate in another "Weight Loss Challenge," but there are too many unexpected barriers to losing the "last 5 pounds" for me to feel comfortable wagering $20 times the number of people who succeed. I like the "name your own dire consequence" method better.

BTW, it would be interesting to find out how many people carried through on their "dire consequences" from the earlier challenge, since there were quite a few people who didn't lose 15 pounds or more. Of course, that might have been because many people didn't need to lose 20 pounds.



"Real winners aren't content with yesterday's victories"
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in... 185lbs. I'm with Julian on this and would like to see what Lauren's plan is.

Jay
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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The problem with these challenges is to keep the commitment long enough to break old habits and establish new healthier habits. For those with a motivation issue, I propose the following structure: a buddy system.
  • Partner up with somebody preferably in the same boat as you. Your buddy is your wingman.
  • At the beginning of the week declare your weekly goals to each other (like exercising 7 hours this week or cutting back to 3 sodas).
  • Keep daily stats. Check up on each other during the week. Provide motivation, etc.
  • At the end of the week, tally up the results and hold each other accountable to their goals. Whoever doesn't make their goal pays the other $100 or some such obscene sum.
  • Keep the game going for at least two months to allow the new habits to stick.


(I have my eyes on MJuric...)


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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in...

191 this AM (too many Labor Day Burgers)...

Would like 175 (if not 170).

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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That's a great idea. This should be more than just about weight, but living a healthier lifestyle. My weekly goals need to include eating at least 6 servings of fruit/veggies per day, taking my vitamins, sticking to my training regimen, weight training, etc. This way we can all choose our own goals and be accountable to someone. The outside motivation is what really helps me along. :)
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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Agreed 100% about changing habits. I know the majority of my weight issue revolves around my bad habits. That was why I proposed making this challenge over 4 months. An interesting twist would be to make it over four months, then include another weigh in around april 1.

I like the buddy idea. The driver behind the $20 to each successful person was simply to make me (and others) take it seriously. There are other "dire" consequences that could motivate someone else. The $20 to each person motivates me because I just committed it to everyone who is successful and didn't talk to my wife about it - I HAVE to make it or there will be dire consequences at home.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in.

It's time I recapture my life and this is the starting point. For the past 3 years I've been working too much and training too little. 2006 will be the first year since 1993 that I haven’t done a triathlon. It’s been a slow gradual decline from 6 or 7/year to 4 or 5 to 2 or 3…now none.

OK, here are the stat's.

6'1", 280 lbs.

Yeah, no shit, I'm a fattie. I think God wanted me to be a linebacker. I had a physical last Thursday and the BP was 125/80 with a resting heart rate of 52. I should get the cholesterol results this week. I’m probably the healthiest 280 pounder around but at the end of the day, 280 is 280.

At the check-in to IMLP last year I weighed in at 275. The guy with the clipboard laughed at me. I guess it was kind of funny.

Anyway, the goal is 250 by Dec. 31. 30 pounds in 16 weeks….perhaps that’s a bit ambitious but here goes…….

-John
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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100$ a week...you got your eyes on the wrong dude. Chrisit almighty if I screwed up one week I'd have to get another job to pay for it.

Although I 100% agree with the "Buddy System" and keeping stat's, goals etc., I'd rather not put myself in a position that failure would end me in divorce court.

For me I'm thinking at least 3 months or more. 20lbs over 12 weeks is 1.6lbs a week and likely too much from a healthy standpoint. 4 months would be better say Sept,25th thru Jan29th. That get's us thru all the holidays and gives us 3 weeks into the new year to "stablize" after the Christmas glut. I figure if a person can make it thru Thanksgiving and Christmas/Newyear AND lose the weight and keep it off you're golden until the following November.

I'm up for it, but seriously that 100$ way outta my league.

I do like the idea of being that committed to the cause and agree that you'd only have to pay if you didn't follow your commitment, maybe I'm being a puss, but man that's MAJOR committment for me.

For "Keeping track" I'd recommend something like "Fitday" which I use whenever I'm trying to drop poundage anyway, and sometimes even when I'm not just to see if I'm getting enough of everything I need.

Again I'm definately in and if we can come up with soemthing a bit more "palatable" on the monetary end of things I'm in as "wingman".

~Matt
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I'm eating a bag of Doritos and drinking a Mountain Dew as I read this. Healthy? I don't care about healthy as long as I'm thin.

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [MJuric] [ In reply to ]
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I can just see Mrs. MJuric getting all agitated before the judge: "You Honor, my husband has been writing obscene checks to a certain BottomFeeder. Says they're "fat checks"... whatever. The thing is, I don't think he's on drugs. I'm at my wit's end..."

OK MJuric, perhaps you and I can play at $50/week? Don't fret the hemmorage of your bank account, it'll be a rare week that any of us lose any money. On the other hand, we must take the money transactions seriously to uphold the integrity of the bet.

My personal concern is not so much the excess weight as the apathy that has been my attitude lately. I can't get motivated for workouts, and my activity level is very low and sporadic. I'm not so much fat as out of shape. I can't fight my way out of a wet paper bag right now, and it infuriates me to no end that I've dug myself this hole.

I've seen enough of this trend, and I want to reverse it NOW. I'm hoping the buddy system will give me a boost in the right direction. The extra weight will take care of itself if I can raise my activity level and clean up some bad dietary habits I've picked up. It's that simple for me.

So have we got a deal?

PS: Schwinding go to HELL, you skinny bastard!!! :-)


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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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Swimfan says your all a bunch of fatties but he's too chicken to tell you and PM'ed me to do it for him.

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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i'm in for 10lbs...i'm 145 right now...i'll start with 10

i packed a few on after my wedding this year!

however, i don't know if i can do the $20 to everyone...i'll have to come up with some penalty for myself.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Trigirlpink] [ In reply to ]
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LOL! I just didn't want to post in here...

Seems too much fat flobbing around here, I thought it would be bad for my health!

If weight loss is a problem, I have a crazy idea! Why don't you all stop eating???

I always see fatties carry the most stuff on their bike and when they run. it's not like they need more because they are heavier. What the heck, some of them looks like they could go months without any food.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Trigirlpink] [ In reply to ]
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Swimfan's right... as usual.

Fatties are my people now. I'd take a fattie with a mission over a skinny fart with a bad attitude any day of the week.


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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [jmcavoy] [ In reply to ]
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Also in, have a ton to lose as I'm over 3 bills. And I, too, wasn't built to be a lean machine. Lineman and Rugby player made sure I packed on the lbs, habits didn't change and probably got worse. Time to change...
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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More the cushion better the pushin' ;)
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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Count me in. Currently 183, I'd be incredibly happy to get to 170lbs. Though my wife complained a lot when I got down to 176 before IMAZ. She thought it was weird, cause my ribs didn't have the cushy fat I have on them now.

Peace,

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [swimfan] [ In reply to ]
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Let's see a picture of yerself, swimfat!


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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [swimfan] [ In reply to ]
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different people motivate to lose weight through different means. if losing weight with others gives people motivation to get healthier you really shouldn't criticize, but instead encourage people who are trying to lead a healthier lifestyle.

watch out for karma!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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"So have we got a deal?"

Let's lay the exact ground rules and "Payment plan" prior to the handshake shall we?

First dates: Does 9/25-1/29 soudn good? Too long, Too short?

Second goals and what would result in "Payment"?

Personally I'd like to go to 145'ish from my current 165'ish so roughly 20lbs. Going from 155'ish to 145 will absolutely suck for me and be very difficult I suspect.

Also for this same period I will be working on mainly my run and swim more specifically run volume "offseason frequeny" stuff.

Not sure what "Goals" to set in that area.

~Matt
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I am so in on this. I will weigh in tonight at the gym. I think I am about 180 and would like to make 165 but 160 would not be unhealthy for me.

Someone take away my cliff bars!

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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OK I am in too. I was 172 this morning. I'd like to get down to 152.

I like the buddy plan and tips from Lauren, but $20 per person is too much for me.

How about we send $20 to one person if we don't make our goal.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Pam] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds like a great idea. 195 down to 180 for me.

I'm not sure how it would change the accountability factor, but I'm sure we could find a worthy charity to put our money toward.

$50 each to a Slowtwitch charity fund might work well. We could vote for an appropriate charity.

Craig.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [CSpread] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in

Current weight 179 goal weight 165 = 14lbs. Yikes! I don't think i have been 165 since high school, which is more than 10 years.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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ok...after laying around with an injury for way too long, i'm at 6'4", 255. If the end of the year is our target, i'll go in for 25 lbs (about 1.5 a week), but i'll do more if we extend the deadline as mjuric mentioned.

I like the idea of monetary punishments/rewards, either as friendly wagers or donating to CAF or something like that.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [swimfan] [ In reply to ]
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Dude,
Suck on my love handles and stay away from my Snickers Marathon bar(s).


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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. I'll need to weigh in later today. Let the games begin..

Ken
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [KS] [ In reply to ]
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I'm also in.

Lost 10lbs since April (slooowwwlllyyy). I'm having a bit of trouble continuing and need some inspiration. I seem to have plateau a bit.

Was 172 and now 161.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [MJuric] [ In reply to ]
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I am in, currently at 6'4 225lbs and want to get to 205
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. 5'5" and 212lbs. I'm a chubby triathloner.

Goal: 192lbs by 12/31/06

I'm gonna make up my own rules and donate $5 for every pound above 192. Hope I get to play still.


If my body isn't strong enough... I hope my wallet will be.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in for 15 lbs.

Currently at 180, would like to be at 165.

Made it down to 171 at one point on Speedy's challenge. Taper was not good to me!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I am so glad you started this! I was thinking of it myself yesterday.

Here is the sad, present facts:

224lbs this morning. A very unforunate gain of 15 lbs after a crash.

I am so in!



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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. Bike crash, Knee injury, end of season was 5 weeks ago for me. Now working on rehab and could use the loss.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [mayday] [ In reply to ]
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Mayday wrote

ok...after laying around with an injury for way too long, i'm at 6'4", 255. If the end of the year is our target, i'll go in for 25 lbs (about 1.5 a week), but i'll do more if we extend the deadline as mjuric mentioned.

I hear you

I am a steady 230 -235 for 10 years at 6'6" I was 206 12 years ago an felt very weak. Maybe 215 is ideal ,,,,, off that BMI chart ( those numbers are not right ,I'm off the page )

Heli
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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totally interested. what'd you have in mind?

OK...after not losing any weight this summer training for eagleman and timberman, i need some change.

i'll weigh myself and get back to you...but i'm in for 20lbs...i'm probably about 212 and would love to get down to 190...ideally 185.

i did atkins a few years ago...got down to 187, did the abs diet and exercised (the start of my triathlon participation) and got down to 193 last year...but each time i ballooned up to over 210. i'm tired of the yo-yoing, so i will continue to do tri's but i need to get my eating (and drinking) under control. it IS a simple matter of self-control...that much i realize, but i'm willing to try to make it stick.

who would have thought i was a lightweight rower in college??
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. I have been slacking this year after moving and getting a new house. I am up to 210 and would like to get back to 195 by the end of the year. I am not paying anyone anything but I hope this thread will stick around and keep me motivated.

Paul
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. Since injuring myself I have 'blossomed' into a 220lb 6'3" baby. This was from my 1/2 weight of about 195 in June.



I would like to get down to 190-195



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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [heykev] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. At 178, need to get to 163-165 (was there 18 months ago). Nutrition has been so embarassing for the past year.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I am soooo tempted to join this little faction...but I have yet to pay the pennance for my last failed attempt to lose 20(though in about 5 more days my debt will be paid in full). For that matter Speedy has not yet suffered for his failure either..and hence..should be exempt from this particular challenge. When I lose what I need to lose (and make no mistake..posted it recently in another thread that an IM was at stake so you know it's gotta stick...it will come off) it will be for me. No offense intended to any of you..I wish you all the best of luck. But this time it's personal..seen one too many finish photos of me this season that resemble the Pilsbury Doughboy for my liking. So..I'm bowing out.
Haul ass..no matter how big it is!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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im in, i have to weigh myself now, but im in. I want to weigh 175-80 lbs so i have to lose like 13 pounds i think.

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Ted McGregor] [ In reply to ]
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I'll do it! Let me know if I can join

I need to get to 160, right now I am at 165, BUT I am at 7% body fat. I want to lean out as much as I can before IMAZ.

My goal is to get to a solid 5% BF. I don't know if I can get rid of the ice cream though!!!

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I'm in. I want to be 145 at years end. I'm sure I'll get close by the time IMF rolls around...but this will be my incentive to stay there. That's about 13-15 lbs. But I'd be happy if I were 150 and fit into the clothes I wore when I was 145 (I realize I've gained a lot of muscle lately...especially in the arms/shoulders/back from swimming).
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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Ok... Here's what we need: some guidelines.

Since people want some help on learning how to make your weight loss stick, PLEASE know that these guidelines are TRIED & TRUE -- other athletes have done these and have successfully kept training and lost fat. If you deviate, you do so at the peril of sabataging your own weight loss attempts.

BASIC INFO:
Most extra pounds and/or failed fat loss on athletes is due to diet. Too much unhealthy food ---and perhaps drinking. If your body is important to you, implement these basic changes and STICK WITH THEM, even through the first transition weeks (call them T1 ;). It will take you a little while to "detox" from sugars but you will get through the cravings.

1) Cut out processed or refined foods: whole foods only:
Fruits, veggies, meats (if you eat meats), fish, eggs. If it has a label, it's not that good for you; addditionally, your body cannot really process the preservatives in most shelf-ready foods. The more whole foods, the more your body can process = nourish your cells = drop unwanted/unneeded fat...

This is BY FAR the MOST IMPORTANT thing you can do for yourself: stop believing marketers who tell you that they have a 'healthy food'. Ignore 'what they say' and LEARN what food does in your body. (I teach every client how to understand nutrients - so they can make nourishing food decisions). Start with whole real foods and you will start dropping the fat pounds.

2) Slow or stop drinking:
Your beers, wine, or mixed drinks are doing more than adding calories; they are saturating your cells so your body isn't processing correctly. I'm not talking about a beer a week -- many people here drink like it's another sport. If you are serious about weight loss and training, STOP DRINKING. If you find you can't stop drinking, contact me and we'll see about getting you help.

3) Eat 5-6 'meals' a day:
Don't ever skip a meal or go more than 3 hours without food... BRING FOOD wherever you go, so you are not caught with the option of eating fast [unhealthy] food. Healthy, fit, and low bodyfat athletes ALWAYS have healthy snacks with them.

4) DROP SUGAR:
You ONLY need simple sugars around training. All other carb needs can be satisfied with fruits, veggies (especially), and whole grains (sparingly). (Read Joe Friel's Triathlete's Training Bible for details, page 244). IF YOU DROP SUGARS YOU WILL NOT MISS THEM AFTER ABOUT 4-10 DAYS. Sugar is insideous in many ways - too many to list here.... Cut out sugar in your coffee, snacks, even honey (unless you are using it for training food): those added calories are not helping you -- and they are even harming you (read p. 255 of that Training Bible).

5) Have a treat meal 1-2x week:
Eat whatever you want... you may soon feel that you don't want this treat meal, because you have changed your tastebuds (and stomach) to enjoy REAL QUALITY food.

6) Portion size no bigger than your palm (approx 1/2 c).
If you have to eat more, eat more LATER.

7) For best results, RECORD ALL FOOD for at least 5-14 days:
If you record ALL your food, you can easily see where your extra habits or calories creep in. These tend to be 'secret' foods (sneaking candy bars, party beers, wine, desserts 'for the carb loading', etc).

These are basic guidelines which can help your 20-lb weight loss. They seem like no-brainers but most people SAY they know them, but do not actually DO them.

More basic info at: http://www.physicalmind.com/nutrition.htm

I have several triathlete clients and a cyclist client, (not including my "regular people" clientele). We specifically work on behavior habits. Every client has met or exceeded goals, although the beginning "T1" (detoxing after dropping sugar and processed foods) was the difficult part. It gets easier after that!

We can make a wiki for this 20-lb weight loss: http://pbwiki.com/ ... what do you think?


Bottomfeeder had some great suggestions, (below), about how to keep accountable to someone specific.


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Bottomfeeder said,

"The problem with these challenges is to keep the commitment long enough to break old habits and establish new healthier habits. For those with a motivation issue, I propose the following structure: a buddy system.

-Partner up with somebody preferably in the same boat as you. Your buddy is your wingman.

- At the beginning of the week declare your weekly goals to each other (like exercising 7 hours this week or cutting back to 3 sodas).
Keep daily stats. Check up on each other during the week. Provide motivation, etc.

- At the end of the week, tally up the results and hold each other accountable to their goals. Whoever doesn't make their goal pays the other $100 or some such obscene sum.

-Keep the game going for at least two months to allow the new habits to stick."



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"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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Great guidelines, Lauren! I followed the Zone diet for a year and followed your principles religiously. I ended up having to slip from the diet because I was getting too thin. But I felt awesome the entire time- I was even able to give up caffeine for a year, a feat that gives me nightmares now :)

It's time to go back to basics. I only have a couple of problems with maintaining a "whole foods" diet. First, do you have any tips on keeping the cost down? Fruits and veggies are very expensive in the winter here. And secondly, I share a refrigerator with 2 other people (roommates), and we don't cook together so things get tight in there. Do you get the same benefits from frozen foods? I might just have to start going to the store multiple times per week.

So who needs a buddy? My goals are more health and fitness related than true weight loss, but improving my diet is a must!

Jodi
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Kentiger] [ In reply to ]
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"When I lose what I need to lose it will be for me. So..I'm bowing out."

hey, don't do a single thing for a 'challenge'. I am with you all the way. Do this 'session' because you will have friends doing it. Don't bet with anyone also. Do it to watch the pounds leave you.

F*ck 'the challenge', do it anyway: for YOU.

lauren



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certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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"I only have a couple of problems with maintaining a "whole foods" diet. First, do you have any tips on keeping the cost down? Fruits and veggies are very expensive in the winter here. And secondly, I share a refrigerator with 2 other people (roommates), and we don't cook together so things get tight in there. Do you get the same benefits from frozen foods? I might just have to start going to the store multiple times per week."

Unfortunately, food costs cannot be kept 'at a minimum' if you are eating healthy -- only Taco Bell can afford to serve you for 99c, and look what their crap does to you!

Suggestions:

-Buy from Trader Joe's:
They have decently priced food; The only one I know near you is in Beachwood (OH), but perhaps there are others? However, it's worth the price of gas. For example: avocados are $2.99 for 4 -- in the regular grocery store they are $1.99 EACH.

-Buy in bulk - prepare in bulk:
Cut veggies and meat earlier in your week, and freeze or put into containers. It's cheaper to buy $1.99 carrots in a huge bag and cut them yourself, OR (my way) don't cut them at all.

-Frozen foods do work:
I have read reports that frozen veggies have the same nutrition factor as fresh, and I use frozen fruits all the time. I do suggest mixing fresh and frozen, however.

-Sharing fridge:
Most of the time, I find that many people use shelf space poorly. Ask your roommates if you can rearrange the fridge for better space -- even if your food is mixed beyond separated shelves. Consider also putting plastic containers to keep your food separated if needed.

I have the same problem about "getting too thin". I was overweight all my life until I adopted eating this way. (I filled out my high school graduation gown!) Right now, I eat 'all the time' and I'm about 12-13% BF -- the pounds just fall off with these guidelines, honestly. My boyfriend adopted eating this way (from being a rampant junk-food eater) and he's now in the best shape of his life at 42 (after being obese in his mid-30's)!

However, you HAVE to upkeep your training and you HAVE to eat whole foods. PERIOD. Drink your water.
If you don't believe me, read Gordo's stuff -- he says the same thing.

Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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Thanx for posting the guidelines and the great info on your site. Several years ago I used to love pizza as a "treat meal" and now I can't stand anymore then a slice because of the salt and grease/fat. Ahhhh, the sacrifices we make... I know ice cream is next and that will be a sad celebration indeed.

Jay
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for posting this Lauren! Very insightful as always :)

As I mentioned earlier my goal for this challenge is to finally lose the weight and make healthful diet decisions. My motivation is having others hold me accountable (and out of fear of my wife) so I am sticking with the $20 to each person who makes it if I don't.

Others may find other motivation - personal, donations to charity, etc. That's great - the goal is better health (and faster times).

Tony
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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Lauren, for me 1,2,4 & 5 are not a problem as I already do that. But can you clarify this:

6) Portion size no bigger than your palm (approx 1/2 c).

What is 1/2 c? Is a portion the culmulative size of the meal or of the meal and the same size of veg/fruit/rice/potato/pasta?


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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [JulianInEngland] [ In reply to ]
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I'm also in, and this is a first for me. I'm a short guy - 5'7" and currently around 155lbs or so...I'm definitely not in for 20 lbs, but I need to drop 5-10. Let's do this.

Lauren, thanks for the tips. I adhere to most of them, but certainly slip every now and again (my nutrition focus has fallen off lately). What's the target date?

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [rodio] [ In reply to ]
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I will lose 10 pounds by Oct.31st and 15 by Christmas

Will post updates every Sunday on My sig. Maybe I'll post a before and after pic as well to justify and prove my progress.

:D


Cheers~~


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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [JulianInEngland] [ In reply to ]
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"6) Portion size no bigger than your palm (approx 1/2 c).
What is 1/2 c? Is a portion the culmulative size of the meal or of the meal and the same size of veg/fruit/rice/potato/pasta? "

Each part of the meal:
Except for salad, veggies, or fruit, you can easily use your hand to portion-out your intake.

Salad/veggies/fruit will be self-determined by your stomach needs: most fruits are about 1/2 cup (think of 1 banana, or 1 apple, or 1 peach, for example): your stomach gets pretty full after each of these.

Salad is the same, except it's just easiest to make a salad and eat until you are filled. DROP the premade salad dressings -- they are high in high-fructose-corn-syrup: sugar! You can use flax seed oil for dressing... or olive oil + vinegar... or another whole-food based dressing if you need a dressing. I myself use either flax oil or cottage cheese as dressing.

Here's a quality salad with all your macronutrients:

baby spinach
carrots
tomato
bell pepper
broccoli (go sparingly if they give you gas)
raisins
raw sunflower seeds and/or raw cashews
hard-boiled egg or cooked chicken or tofu
flax oil as dressing

Potato/rice/pasta should be used nearest to training as possible. Once again, I encourage you to purchase and read Friel's Training Bible because he explains how food is used as fuel for training and recovery. He's VERY specific, but it's not too specific that these ideas can't be followed for nutrition for the rest of your life.

As for the amount of food you should have: the 1/2c should be ok per portion for a normal training period, but high-training needs that you take in higher caloric amounts. ie; if you have 4000-5000/day (or more) calorie needs means that you need to raise the portion sides and/or frequency of food. HOWEVER, I've noticed that the people with 4000-5000 calorie needs are not the ones needing to drop 20 lbs ;)

Additionally, a body can hold onto fat IF it doesn't get ENOUGH calories also; use this calorie expendature estimator to estimate how many calories you need per day:

http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/jcalories.html

Hope this helps.

Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Lauren, I'm sure I speak for others when I say that we appreciate your help on this topic. It's cool that you care, and it's good to hear from you as a professional.

Question: How do you motivate people or help them motivate themselves? That's clearly the source of the problem for me - the fire within is but an ember these days. I am sliding into sedentariness, and I can't find the inner strength to stop this slide. How would you help somebody like me?

Thanks.


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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [rob2681] [ In reply to ]
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You are right man, when i lose weight my wife and nieces complain that I am not "comfy" anymore. Not that I want to be comfy so I am shooting to loose 25lbs but 20lbs will most likely be more than enough...

Peace

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Pam] [ In reply to ]
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Why dont everyone that doesnt meet their goal sends the $20 to CAF. We group it all as the ST fatties donation for 06

Peace

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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I'm no expert. But for me it really helps to have to be accountable to someone.

How about in addition to the buddy system, we have a daily log online somewhere that we can check if we complete our goals. We can use Lauren's guide, or add our own goals. Say 10 items like:

Ate no processed food

Followed weekly exercise plan

Drank X ounces of water

No alcohol

etc, etc.

Because we are all competitive people, we could have a little slowtwitch competition. It can just be for bragging rights, or whatever. But we could each get 1 point for each of our 10 goals per day. Extra points for weekly weight loss. In 4 months the winner could be crowned King or Queen of ST Health Challenge (I like this better than Weight Loss challenge...)

Just a thought :)

Jodi
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I am in for this. Speedy's weight loss challenge was incredible for me. I went from 136 to 122 (I'm 5'4")

A stress fracture/this summer has sidelines me a little and I'm up to 128-130 ( A lot of this is due to my ice cream habit). Lauren thank you for those guidelines. much appreciated.

My goal: 118 by December 1. I'm running a marathon in December to qualify for boston, and I'm much faster when not lugging around an extra 10..I want a legit number this time.

short term goal: 124 by Oct.1.

I vote for charity donation !!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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"Question: How do you motivate people or help them motivate themselves? That's clearly the source of the problem for me - the fire within is but an ember these days. I am sliding into sedentariness, and I can't find the inner strength to stop this slide. How would you help somebody like me? "

Unfortunately, (as we have already threaded about this topic), no one can 'motivate' anyone else to change. (You have mentioned that you cannot get your family to listen to you, as you hope to get them healthier and fitter...)

Motivation is very personal to each person. How *I* do it is to bring each person through a series of questions to help discover what really motivates him/herself INDIVIDUALLY. It's hard to explain in one sentence... but the upshot is that some people are motivated by going TOWARDS something ("I want to be healthy, fit, and sexy...") and some people are motivated by moving AWAY from something ("I don't want to die early from obesity-induced heart attack").

(Example:
My own motivation is easy: I like being fit, muscular, and feeling energetic. I used to be fat, tired, and depressed. To stay fit and full of energy I MUST eat well and train. However, as my goal is not any specific race, I will accept almost ANY interesting activity which might give me excitement and exercise.).

What you are truly asking is how is someone coached... this, again, is individual to each person. Some people like being told exactly how to do something; some people like to figure things out on their own, but want support while doing it.

If you yourself (or anyone reading this) can't stop an inner slide, perhaps it's because you haven't found the big enough "why" ('motivation') to get going again. Perhaps you've deprioritized your health in favor of computers or TV... and suddenly both those seem much more interesting than training. If I presented you with a GREAT training ride (or run or brick), I'd bet you'd get off your ass to do it -- and you won't be looking back at your TV wondering if it missed you!

This is why many people race: it is goal-oriented; it has a beginning, middle, and end, and it may lead to the next stepping-stone of a goal. You see many people start with 5k's and then through the years move on to other sports -- or IM. The goal-setting process is addictive to many people.

So, you ask, "How would I help someone like you?"

Answer: 'Individually'.

...THAT's why I coach. I coach so you (or others like you) get individual attention to uncover your OWN motivation, techniques, schedule, time issues, food issues, surpassing obstacles, challenge mental roadblocks, tear down the walls. I LOVE when clients "graduate" from not needing me anymore. That means we have set them on their own paths and own techniques; they solve their own problems using the skills we individually crafted for THEM.

How can YOU motivate yourself?

By awareness: "know thyself". You know what turns you on and turns you off. You know what pushes your buttons in the good way (and in a bad way). By learning how to tap into your strengths (and weaknesses) you can create your own path. But you HAVE TO WANT TO.

Two things to help you consider:

http://www.physicalmind.com/escape.htm
http://www.physicalmind.com/newsletter2.htm

Hope these help...

Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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I agree, for me it needs to be a competition, however I think it needs to be evenly measured and easily measured. % improvement seems easy to me. If I want to lose 15 pounds and to date have lost 6 or 40% of my goal and the next person is at 38% of their goal and I am the leader on the course. At Dec. 31, whoever has the highest overall % wins. We could also put people in flights to even it out.

Flight 1 - goal weight loss 10 or less

Flight 2 goal 11-20 lbs

Flight 2 goal more than 20 lbs

Instead of age groups its weight groups.

Somebody tech savvy maybe can create a website for daily/weekly tracking.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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I was at 177 lbs this morning.

Based on my frame and height (5'10"), I should be around 156 lbs, but I would like to aim for 162 lbs for a loss of 15 lbs. I am going to be adding some muscle too.

Good diet advice above. Much of which seems like it can be summed up as "drop simple carbs/sugars".

As for the 5-6 meals a day, for mid-morning and mid-afternoon snacks, how well do (i) apples work and (ii) can people recommend any particular type of energy or snack bar as the healthiest for an athlete (working out 5 times a week) trying to lose weight?

Thanks.
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"when i lose weight my wife and nieces complain that I am not "comfy" anymore."

This is something that many friends and spouses tell the weight-loss person. This statement has nothing to do with 'you' but everything to do with that person's IMAGE of you, or what they WANT from you: someone to lean on? A pillow? Are you really supposed to be a human pillow?

Please consider having a talk with them about how you are uncomfortable at whatever weight you are now, and would like to get fitter FOR YOU as well as for them.... if your wife needs incentive, tell her that you will be sexier (on the inside and the outside) when you are fitter... that may translate to "benefits" for her as well! ;)

Lauren



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certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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"how well do (i) apples work and (ii) can people recommend any particular type of energy or snack bar as the healthiest for an athlete (working out 5 times a week) trying to lose weight? "

Apples are fine... but my suggestion is no more than 2/day. You don't need more than that.

Energy bar or snack bar? That's processed (remember the guidelines of eating whole foods)..... Eat real food. You can easily eat part of a whole-food meal as a snack. What can YOU devise which you can pack easily? Nuts, nuts + raisins, veggies, part of a healthy sandwich, fruit, cottage cheese, part of a salad...



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certified health coach
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There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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I agree on the change in taste, I used to be addicted to diet coke, now I can not take more than a sip and go YIKES....
however, I find it pretty hard to try and eat whole foods all the time, it takes so much time to go to the store, buy fruits, veggies, water, pack snacks for work, make sandwiches etc etc.....but I agree with you in general;

now, my question, I used to be really skinny, 5' 7'' weighing <118 lbs.
and I wasn't eating healthy then, as I said, addicted to diet soda and the likes, drank a lot (booze) too.

Ever since I started tris I gained weight. Around 15-20lbs actually.
When I started the season this year I was around 122lbs, now with IMMOO this weekend, I am 130 as of this AM. I saw a steady increase in about 2lbs increments per month or so. My clothes still fit reasonably though I feel heavy..
It is depressing, putting all this training in and gaining weight. Maybe the stress??
What do you think? I eat reasonably healthy, and no junk for the most part...
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Lauren,

thanks for your comment. Yes, its totally for their comfort when they watch TV :) I just have comfy shoulders.... Their complaint is mostly joking, they know the level of comfort is on the downsize.

The wife is totally insync with me and the loosing weight and eating better. I am usually very picky about trying to eat better stuff and so is she but she cant give up the ice cream.... she is blessed with a lean body and high metabolism but not me.

Your tips and knowledge are great, really good to have someone around willing to spread some truth. I have a couple of questions, I know is kind of an oxymoron but are there any good or at least not that bad salad dressings? I do eat lots of salads but sometimes want to move away from the the just oil/vinegar stuff. Also what are your thougths on oatmeal?

Peace

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"What do you think? I eat reasonably healthy, and no junk for the most part... "

Vivie,
I can't answer any specifics because there are so many factors, one glaring one is when people say, "I eat reasonably healthy". That could be anything to many people! :)

If you (or anyone else) want specific help, I'd be happy to coach individually, looking carefully at your current food, stressors, lifestyle habits, training habits, etc. You may even be allergic to a certain ingredient in your food... or the stress is making you bloat in retaining water... or you've been training so much you'd added vast muscle.

Another thought may be that you are actually eating WELL (finally!) and your cells are sucking up such GREAT nutrition (now that you stopped with sodas and booze) that you are finally getting to a healthy weight! This type of re-nourishment is discussed by a leading endocrinologist, Dr. Dianne Schwarzbein, in her books on healing the hormonal systems of the body.

Hope this helps,
Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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"I know is kind of an oxymoron but are there any good or at least not that bad salad dressings? I do eat lots of salads but sometimes want to move away from the the just oil/vinegar stuff. Also what are your thougths on oatmeal? "

Salad dressings:
Most commercial dressings have terrible ingredients. Many have high fructose corn syrup (sugar! sugar! sugar!) as one of its main ingredients. Your body doesn't need the extra empty calories and cell-cloggers.

You can make your own salad dressings with whatever you want. You can put spices in oil/vinegar. Or just use olive oil alone. Or Flax oil. ANYTHING which is a pure food ingredient -- if you need dressing at all! (As I said, I use cottage cheese). Why should there be any rules as to what foods are traditional for salads? If you know that you need a carb/protein/fat in the foods, just devise a sticky dressing which tastes good but provides a good source of one (or several) of these macronutrients.

I also use organic plain whole-milk yogurt, but just a dab.

I personally like oatmeal. Friel + Cordain's book "Paleo for Athletes" don't like it but I think it's fine. Just use the real stuff (not 'quick oats') and don't sugar it.

Lauren



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certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Thank you, Lauren.

I will look up the book/doctor you mentioned. In fact, I feel that I tend to gain weight when I eat mostly healthy things (fruit, veggies, plain yoghurt, sandwiches I make etc) and I tend to eat less overall and maybe even lose weight if I eat some of the fatty not-healthy stuff (like Cuban empanadas and the likes).
But I still eat junk like the store made salad dressings and stuff like that.

Years of EDs have made me pretty aware of the nutrient composition and calorie content of foods, so I guess in theory I should know where to look....
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OK, I'm in. Bar Exam and just plain laziness has me up around 195... need to get to 180.


- Nick
Now that I know some of you guys look through the special needs bags for kicks, I'm gonna put some really weird stuff in mine. I can see it now. "What the heck was he going to do with a family pack of KFC chicken, a football helmet full of peanut butter, a 12 inch rubber dildo, and naked pictures of Bea Arthur?"
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in for 10lbs. I was 152 this morning and would like to get back to the low 140's. That's where I was at for EagleMan in June.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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Lauren, is Friel's Training Bible significantly different to Carmichael's Food for Fitness and his cookbook? I have both and found it rather difficult to follow the instuctions. I also, find that the recipes are too complicated or long winded.

I like your salad recipe but can't abide flax oil so it's light olive oil and vinegar for me. I will try the calorie expendature estimator for guidane for a baseline.

Many thanks.


"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [manna] [ In reply to ]
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oh dear god. THought I was 128 and I am actually 134. yikes.

I am soooo in
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [JulianInEngland] [ In reply to ]
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" is Friel's Training Bible significantly different to Carmichael's Food for Fitness and his cookbook? I have both and found it rather difficult to follow the instuctions. I also, find that the recipes are too complicated or long winded. "

I'm sorry, I don't have the Carmichael book - so I can't say. However, The Triathlete's Training Bible has no recipes; it's strictly info about training, sports biochemistry, "fuel" (nutrition), recovery, etc.

The Friel book IS 'long-winded' but he's got GREAT info well-packed in there!

However, the Carmichael book is available for $4 used (on Amazon), so I'll tell you later.

Btw, I hate cooking so any recommendations I give are based on limited food preparation: 10 min or less. So I will rarely do anything which has 'a recipe' -- does that help?

My favorite fast meal is:
plain organic whole-milk yogurt (protein & fat)
thawed frozen raspeberries (fibrous carbs & electrolytes)
small scoop raw oatmeal (complex carbs)
(30 sec preparation time)

My favorite slower fast hot sandwich:
organic high-protein, seeded high-fiber multigrain organic no-preservative bread (carbs, pro, & fat)
2 eggs (pro)
raw spinach (fibrous carbs)
melted soy cheese (pro & carbs)
(5 min prep time)

Hope this helps,
lauren



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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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I love raspberries so the yogurt gets a thumbs up although I don't like the taste of soy products so the hot sandwich would have to be with 1/2 fat cheese.

Apart from milk I am not a large consumer of cheese or eggs or yogurt. But your meal suggestions are good so far.

Cheers.


"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [JulianInEngland] [ In reply to ]
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"...although I don't like the taste of soy products so the hot sandwich would have to be with 1/2 fat cheese."

I'm lactose intolerant so soy cheese is my option. It's very very rare if I have real cheese, although I love it. But I rarely have soy cheese also.

'Fat' is not the problem: once you understand what fats your body can use, just go for those fats.... one problem about today's choice of 'eating healthy' is that marketers will create "fake foods" (full of preservatives and additives) to simulate real food. I'd rather have raw cheese straight from the cow than the modified 'nonfat' cheese, loaded with chemicals, cleaned by ammonia, etc.

I spent 10 minutes in a store the other day talking a woman out of buying coffee creamer ("CoffeeMate").

Note that I am a 'health coach' and not a 'grocery store coach' :)

...But let me also repeat: everyone who eats the way I suggest pares fat from their body. Period.

Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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Well, that's good enough for me, I'm ringing my father (the master butcher) in the morning and getting some of that local mature cheddar with the bite for Sunday! No more adapted cheese for me!


"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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"How about in addition to the buddy system, we have a daily log online somewhere that we can check if we complete our goals."

There's a place online called Joe's Goals.
www.joesgoals.com
Says it's shareable....

I agree with Jodi. Using this goalsheet might help: it's really simple.

Thoughts?
Lauren

PS: Jodi, if you have a moment for writing on ST, then find a moment for coffee with me! I'll come to you...!! :)



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
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http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Count me in! I'm at 132 and would love to get back down to around 110.
Lauren, thanks for all the ideas. I've printed your guidelines and am going to work out a nutrition plan tonight. Question--how many calories do you eat for each 'meal'. I could easily get carried away by eating 5 to 6 meals per day. For clarification, you basically eat breakfast, lunch, dinner with a morning and afternoon snack?
You mentioned talking a lady out of buying coffee creamer. Is it the coffee that's bad (fingers crossed here, I love my morning coffee) or her choice of creamer? Thanks again for taking the time to help us all.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [JulianInEngland] [ In reply to ]
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"No more adapted cheese for me! "

HINT:
Only use enough cheese (or other 'extra' food) for a HINT of flavor. Save your calories for the REAL nutrition: carb, pro, or healthy fat!

EXAMPLE: on a hamburger, you get the same flavor with .25 oz of cheese (one little strip) as with 1 oz!

Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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hamburger!!!!!


"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [TryingRealHard] [ In reply to ]
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"Question--how many calories do you eat for each 'meal'. I could easily get carried away by eating 5 to 6 meals per day. For clarification, you basically eat breakfast, lunch, dinner with a morning and afternoon snack?
You mentioned talking a lady out of buying coffee creamer. Is it the coffee that's bad (fingers crossed here, I love my morning coffee) or her choice of creamer? "

I can't tell you your own calories because I don't know your activity level, what days you train, how hard you train, what your day job is (sedentary or active), etc.... basically you want to divide your calories through your day amongst 5-6 meals with the more calories centered around your biggest activity times. You need to recover from your training.

Training/race expendature calculator:
http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/jcalories.html

The whole coffee argument is long: it has to do with exciting your adrenal glands, etc. To save time (and energy) in explanation, I won't tell you to cut the morning coffee out, but stay about 1 cup and don't put sugar in. If you like sugar, start getting used to it without sugar -- or switch to stevia (a non-sugar, non-chemical sweetner made from a plant).

Hope this helps.
Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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lauren,

thank you for all the advice and time you are taking for this Health Challenge ( i like that, Jodi!).

time to get disciplined. i am like bottom feeder. race season is over, i've gotten sedentary, slipped into bad habits, etc. they key for me is good planning. if i am prepared for my 5-6 meals a day, then i don't snack on random stuff.

on sweeteners: i've tried stevia, and didn't find it sweet at all. maybe i need to get my body used to NO sugar first and then stevia will taste sweet? also, i heard the creators of Splenda won't touch the stuff themselves!

thanks again!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [mayday] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in and I like the idea of donating any money instead to charity. 245 now, target 225 (or lower) by xmas.
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"i've tried stevia, and didn't find it sweet at all. maybe i need to get my body used to NO sugar first and then stevia will taste sweet? also, i heard the creators of Splenda won't touch the stuff themselves! "

I don't know about that rumor about Splenda creators...

As for sweet things, I always prefer that people get off of sweet things entirely. Sugar nothing if possible, honey nothing, don't sweeten anything. You will more naturally taste the real sweetness of foods when they arrive: apples will be sweet, or raisins, or other things.... I only added the stevia part for people whom I can't convince to stop sweetening their food.

Food was meant to have ALL flavors: tart, sweet, salty, sour, savory, spicy, smoky, even bland. Indian food is a great example of the wide palate we can taste! American marketers know they can addict us with sweetness, so they sweeten most everything - but it's not found in nature that way, and these sweetners are harming us more (think: diabetes) than any other time in our history.

Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Lauren thanks for all of your tips! They are really helpful! I just found out I have high cholesterol and I worry about eating all the protein, any suggestions?
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"I just found out I have high cholesterol and I worry about eating all the protein, any suggestions?"

Yeah. Research the hell out of 'high cholesterol' to find out that what your doctor says may not be as true as he/she wants you to believe. There's a racket going on about high cholesterol meds, arbitrary cholesterol numbers, what the body makes as natural cholestrol, what the body needs cholesterol for (hormones), etc.

Here's an interesting article:
http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/statin.html *

PLEASE read that Friel "Triathlete Training Bible" (It's cheap enough: $22.95 new) to understand how much carb, protein, and fat you really need in your diet. We aren't talking about 65% protein (like bodybuilder try to eat) - we are talking like 30% protein, which isn't much at all. Correlate this nutrition with the information you read about cholesterol, and don't be nervous about making wise nutritional choices.

Lauren

* A quote from this (above-stated) article:

"Nowhere is the failing of our medical system more evident than in the wholesale acceptance of cholesterol reduction as a way to prevent disease--have all these doctors forgotten what they learned in biochemistry 101 about the many roles of cholesterol in the human biochemistry? Every cell membrane in our body contains cholesterol because cholesterol is what makes our cells waterproof--without cholesterol we could not have a different biochemistry on the inside and the outside of the cell. When cholesterol levels are not adequate, the cell membrane becomes leaky or porous, a situation the body interprets as an emergency, releasing a flood of corticoid hormones that work by sequestering cholesterol from one part of the body and transporting it to areas where it is lacking. Cholesterol is the body’s repair substance: scar tissue contains high levels of cholesterol, including scar tissue in the arteries.

"Cholesterol is the precursor to vitamin D, necessary for numerous biochemical processes including mineral metabolism. The bile salts, required for the digestion of fat, are made of cholesterol. Those who suffer from low cholesterol often have trouble digesting fats. Cholesterol also functions as a powerful antioxidant, thus protecting us against cancer and aging.

"Cholesterol is vital to proper neurological function. It plays a key role in the formation of memory and the uptake of hormones in the brain, including serotonin, the body’s feel-good chemical. When cholesterol levels drop too low, the serotonin receptors cannot work. Cholesterol is the main organic molecule in the brain, constituting over half the dry weight of the cerebral cortex.

"Finally, cholesterol is the precursor to all the hormones produced in the adrenal cortex including glucocorticoids, which regulate blood sugar levels, and mineralocorticoids, which regulate mineral balance. Corticoids are the cholesterol-based adrenal hormones that the body uses in response to stress of various types; it promotes healing and balances the tendency to inflammation. The adrenal cortex also produces sex hormones, including testosterone, estrogen and progesterone, out of cholesterol. Thus, low cholesterol--whether due to an innate error of metabolism or induced by cholesterol-lowering diets and drugs--can be expected to disrupt the production of adrenal hormones and lead to blood sugar problems, edema, mineral deficiencies, chronic inflammation, difficulty in healing, allergies, asthma, reduced libido, infertility and various reproductive problems...."



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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I am in also.

I started with the original 20 lb. weight loss challenge last year. I guess I am one of the success stories of the challenge. Just after Christmas I weighed 217 lb (at 6’2”). Now, I am 189 lb. A 28 lb. weight loss in nine months. I would like to be 175 lb. by Christmas this year.

Noted successes along the way in 2006:

For the first time ever as an adult I am under 200 lb.
Fitter and healthier than I have ever been at any time in my life
First ever ultra-marathon: Way Too Cool 50k
First half Ironman: Auburn International
Three triathlon personal bests in a row: (TBF Racing Tri for Fun #2, Real #2 and Fun#3)
No injuries or inflammation problems in 2006.

By the way – to everyone who participated in the original 20 lb. weight loss challenge: My REWARD arrived today!! A box full of Icebreakers from New Zealand. (see www.icebreaker.com) Cheers, Paul Charteris

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http://www.taraweraultra.co.nz
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I am in also.

I started with the original 20 lb. weight loss challenge last year. I guess I am one of the success stories of the challenge. Just after Christmas I weighed 217 lb (at 6’2”). Now, I am 189 lb. A 28 lb. weight loss in nine months. I would like to be 175 lb. by Christmas this year.


Noted successes along the way in 2006:

For the first time ever as an adult I am under 200 lb.
Fitter and healthier than I have ever been at any time in my life
First ever ultra-marathon: Way Too Cool 50k
First half Ironman: Auburn International
Three triathlon personal bests in a row: (TBF Racing Tri for Fun #2, Real #2 and Fun#3)
No injuries or inflammation problems in 2006.

By the way – to everyone who participated in the original 20 lb. weight loss challenge: My REWARD arrived today!! A box full of Icebreakers from New Zealand. (see www.icebreaker.com) Cheers, Paul Charteris

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RD: The Tarawera Ultramarathon
http://www.taraweraultra.co.nz
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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Wow this thread is popular. So was the last weight loss thread. Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised, it goes to show that many athletes are not above battling very familiar demons. I admit I am envious of folks who are at the top of their game right now. Hell I'm envious of whoever can do a 50 mi ride as I bonked pretty badly at mile 35 last Saturday. I had no business riding 50 miles. It was ugly...

That said, I find unsual comfort in the mutual support we have shown each other in this thread. With each new pledge of weight loss I find myself empathizing in a way I have never felt before. I hear y'all. I want to reach out and help... most of all I want to help myself.

I started giving myself goals this week. They are silly: 7 hours of exercise, 2 sessions of yoga, 2 salad meals, etc. Piddly stuff for now, but I believe in baby steps. The goals are designed to re-establish good habits of exercise and diet, and they will grow more challenging as I go along. Now I have set goals before, but find myself blowing them off more often than not. In retrospect I suspect a weak drive to succeed, and I am resigned to the fact that I cannot rely on my drive to police myself. So the carrot-only scheme doesn't work for me.

This time I want to try something different: a carrot / big stick scheme. The big stick being two-fold: 1) $50 into a jar for every week I fail to meet my stated goals, and 2) $50 to my buddy MJuric. MJuric has the reverse arrangement with me, and I hope for his sake he does not go bankrupt over this. I am excited about this new journey - if anything it will give us a few good laughs. I plan to give whatever money I've collected this way to charity at the end of the year.

Seeing how much interest there is in this topic, I would love to see somebody with computer expertise step up and create a site where people can enter their statistics, their weekly goals, their financial pledges, etc. It seems that that would help motivate many people. A lot of good ideas have been proposed so far, and it would be a shame if we fail to implement them.

Anybody up for the task?


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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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"...With each new pledge of weight loss I find myself empathizing in a way I have never felt before. I hear y'all. I want to reach out and help... most of all I want to help myself. "

EXCELLENT!
A community of compassion!!!



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certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
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http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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I'm in. I'm 183 and I want to be 163lbs.

Thanks for putting this together.



stef

Formely stef32
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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Well, I just missed my 20lb goal in the last challenge have since hit but still have a long ways to go ~50lbs.

Im 225.5 (I'll take the .5 lb penatly and say starting weight of 225) Goal 200 by years end.

Lauren thanks for all the good comments.

Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, based on Jodi's suggestions on goals, I suggest that you easily sign up for www.joesgoals.com

Here are the goals, based on the guidelines I suggested earlier in the thread, plus a few others (which are basic to tri/ athletic training). If you missed the earlier post, go back and read it to understand why these guidelines are being suggested.

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1) Cut out processed or refined foods: whole foods only:
Fruits, veggies, meats (if you eat meats), fish, eggs, etc.

2) 1x or less alcohol per WEEK

3) Ate 5-6 'meals' a day

4) Ate no processed sugar products, added sweetners, or sugar-sourced condiments (including honey, molasses, etc) as 'food'. (Your sugars can only be during your training - see #9). CHECKED ALL LABELS FOR 'High fructose corn syrup', sugar, etc.

5) Treat meal 1-2x week - (or not!)

6) Portion size no bigger than the palm (approx 1/2 c). (This doesn't count with salads).

7) RECORDED ALL FOOD for at least 5-14 days to see eating patterns.

8) Drank water as main liquid source

9) Maintained proper training/race nourishment and hydration, including broad-spectrum electrolytes according to sweat rate needs. Did not skimp on necessary carbs, gels, sports drinks during the important times before, during, after training.

10) Trained as normal - or better than normal. Checked my calorie expendature on http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/jcalories.html for enough calories to train and live.

How is this?

Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [tri2tri] [ In reply to ]
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Tri2Tri-

I had very high cholesterol at age 18-22 (for my age). My doctors were stumped and wanted to put me on statins, take me off birth control, etc. I wasn't eating that much protein or fat for that matter. I was a carb junkie for sure. I said no thanks to the drugs and got serious about healthy eating. My protein intake actually increased quite a bit. I followed the zone diet religiously, which isn't that different from the diet that Lauren is proposing. After a year (granted I lost 20-25 pounds) my cholesterol had totally reversed. My LDL went from 166 to 100 and my HDL went from 40 to 80. My doctor was amazed. And in that time I ate a ton of protein, mostly from lean sources, but I did eat a bit of chili and some lean beef, and I ate a ton of egg whites. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that only good things can come from eating a whole foods diet. It helped me so much and I felt great. I have slipped a little, which is why I want to get back into the groove here, but it is helpful to know how good I am going to feel once I get serious about my diet again. And I have been avoiding the dreaded cholesterol test since I slipped from my healthy ways!

:)

Good luck!

Jodi
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Love the goals, Lauren. We might need to break them down into "daily goals" and "weekly goals" for recording purposes. (ie, 5-6 meals per day would be a daily goal, less than 1 drink per week in the weekly goal category). We can have the weigh-in be a weekly goal as well (lose or maintain). I am stoked to get started. I have very little computer skills, so I'm probably not the go-to person to make an updatable table for everyone...

I probably missed this- I know it is okay to use training carbs while exercising. Are there any energy bars that are better for your body and contain less processed ingredients for recovery food? I like to have an easy energy source for post-swimming workouts (since I go directly to work). I had thought that Cliff made a pretty healthy bar. Any other suggestions out there? Hammer? Or should I just pack a couple bananas?

And god help us if Smuckers Natural Crunchy Peanut Butter gets put on the list of banned substances. Good luck tearing that stuff away from me. It's like crack.

Off to join Joesgoals!

Jodi
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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has anyone tried www.fitday.com. this helped me lose 10 lbs. this spring. a person can record food intake and exercise on this site. it provides reporting by week/month/day. also I think you can set up your account so that other people can check out your data.

having my RMR tested helped a lot to. my rmr is 1146, knowing this and recording my diet was a rude awakening.

i'm in too. 10 lbs by oct 31st.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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"Love the goals, Lauren. We might need to break them down into "daily goals" and "weekly goals" for recording purposes. (ie, 5-6 meals per day would be a daily goal, less than 1 drink per week in the weekly goal category). We can have the weigh-in be a weekly goal as well (lose or maintain). I am stoked to get started. I have very little computer skills, so I'm probably not the go-to person to make an updatable table for everyone...

I probably missed this- I know it is okay to use training carbs while exercising. Are there any energy bars that are better for your body and contain less processed ingredients for recovery food? I like to have an easy energy source for post-swimming workouts (since I go directly to work). I had thought that Cliff made a pretty healthy bar. Any other suggestions out there? Hammer? Or should I just pack a couple bananas? "

bananas are good... pre-mixing a recovery drink and keeping it cool enough is okay also (i have a small cooler-bag). I use Accelerade; some people can use Hammer. Carbs are needed for training. Clifbar is good also. Carbs aren't the enemy: bad food habits are the enemy :)

As for daily and weekly goals -- people will figure out what is best for them. Let's not get too daily/weekly about it.

I am trying to see if www.pbwiki.com is a good place for this also.

Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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has anyone tried www.fitday.com. this helped me lose 10 lbs. this spring. a person can record food intake and exercise on this site. it provides reporting by week/month/day. also I think you can set up your account so that other people can check out your data.

having my RMR tested helped a lot to. my rmr is 1146, knowing this and recording my diet was a rude awakening.

i'm in too. 10 lbs by oct 31st.


yes, i use Fitday and Fitnesscoach (i've enlisted her services to help me on several critical topics for self improvement in regards to work stress, personal stress, diet improvements and overall life improvements, etc) can communicate with me on the site, and see what's logged, etc. it's a great program.

BTW--anyone wanting to work through topics of diet, stress, and basically any other topic/issue, i highly recommend Lauren. we've been working together for a few months now, and it's been only the greatest experience. anybody can PM me for details about my expeirence in working with her.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [kittycat] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the wonderful compliments, KC; I'm blushing...

I think Fitday works great... it's just that ST'ers can't see everyone's stats if a Health Challenge is listed on so many individual Fitdays.

I'm trying a wiki right now... maybe there's a way to individually get on a wiki and modify one's own info. So I did create an account on www.pbwiki.com. I'm a little tired now, so I'm not thinking clearly on whether this is the right way to do this.

Meanwhile, anyone can feel free to see what's not yet created --- at http://healthchallenge.pbwiki.com/

I'm a little fuzzy on how to do this securely. I understand the ideas of wikis and this seems like a great idea in theory, but I'm not sure if this is the proper way to have an ongoing challenge.... I created an easy password people can use to do their editing, but once again, I'm not sure what is the correct venue for this.

If someone wants to communicate with me about this, please step up. I can tell you the password and maybe you can start this off... or tell me that wikis are not the place for a 'public' challenge?

Thanks,
Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Count me in for 17 pounds. Just weighed in at 172 -arrgh - and I need to be at 155.
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I wanted to add that in addition to Joe Friel's book that Lauren has suggested, I have also bought one book that he coauthored with Loren Cordain, called "The paleo diet for athletes". I would highly recommend it because it can give you more details in specific types of food that are good for you, along with their nutritional values.
I have learned a lot of stuff as well from reading www.gordoworld.com, especially with regards to endurance training and nutrition.
That wiki is an excellent idea and ideal for what we are trying to accomplish.Lauren I can help you with this if you want.
My target is to lose 10kgs.Currently I am 6'1", 92 kgs, so ideally I would like to be something around 82-84 for race season.However, I don't think that for me it is a good idea to lose it by December because it will definitely affect my training.I would prefer to lose it by February-March and be strong enough to get through winter training (weights etc.)

Thanks,
Alex
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Ok...

It's up to you guys to decide. I consulted with my boyfriend and he thinks that a ST Health Challenge thread would work fine (on the ST forum) without an extra outside web-location; the extra location muddies things up. That's a good point.

Here's my own opinion, as a coach:

1) People need to hold THEMSELVES accountable for their daily and weekly goals/guidelines; it's not necessary for the ST community to look over Joe Triathlete's water or sugar intake to poke fun. One of the issues that crept 20lbs onto your body was that you weren't holding yourselves accountable for your choices.

2) Therefore, any site like Joe's Goals (www.joesgoals.com) or Fitday (www.fitday.com) can help you keep your OWN goals, and you can have the OPTION of making your goal-site public if you want. This would be good if you selected a 'Health Challenge Buddy' like Jodi suggested. However, I can tell you from experience that it's VERY labor-intensive to watch over others' journals and food; I do it because I am paid to, but YOU need to focus on getting your own habits back in line, (See #5 and #6), not read 20 other peoples' individual Fitday journals every day.

3) A "ST Health Challenge" wiki is a good idea in theory but it truly isn't much different than a forum, except people can change posted information - it simply takes the discussion off the ST board into a 'clean' environment. A wiki is infinitely changeable and expandable. If someone can refine its intent, feel free to create the format, add pages or design, and discuss how it can be used. I set one up already at:

http://healthchallenge.pbwiki.com/
password: "slowtwitch"

You have to become a PBWiki member to be a part of it. (PBWiki stands for "peanut butter": as in, 'making this wiki is as easy as making a peanut butter sandwich')

4) OR you can post it here on the 20-lbs weight loss thread, here on ST.

5) Ultimately, whatever you are allowing you keep you eating junk food or not-training will also keep you tied to the freakin' computer, also eating junk food and not training! The DEEPER point of a challenge is to help you GAIN AWARENESS into the common [fat-producing] mistakes you've been making... NOT to create an environment where others can poke fun if you ate a ho-ho. FIND WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU: set goals and reminders the way YOU need, ask for help when you need it, but the real point is to get out of your RUT (and the 20 extra pounds) and set back into quality health habits.

6) You are triathletes. You are used to challenging training and racing, strenuous transitions, and uncomfortable situations. My suggestion is not letting a little pizza or candy bar be your master ;) ... you CAN do this challenge, beat the pizza, find your own motivation which gets you off your a$$.

7) I truly want you guys (and gals) to succeed in dropping the fat --- but ultimately, it's about noticing (and changing) the habits and behaviors which crept the weight onto you in the first place.

My morning thoughts,
Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Lauren - thanks for all your time dedicated to us! Awesome stuff. What are your thoughts on salt? I've read conflicting articles. Recently (as in the last couple weeks) I have gone from eating tons of processed foods to eating almost all natural - all as a result of reducing sodium from easily 5K mg/day to somewhere in the 800-1200 mg/day. I can't say I feel much better, although I do have to drink a lot less water to stay hydrated.

I like keeping this on slowtwitch on this thread - we can decide amongst ourselves what to post on a weekly(?) basis. If everyone wants to move it off ST I can create a page but it would be very simple. I also like the donation to charity - I'm changing my "motivation" to donating $20 to a group selected charity for each person that makes it if I don't.

I also like the buddy system and am in search of one :)
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"What are your thoughts on salt?...I'm changing my "motivation" to donating $20 to a group selected charity for each person that makes it if I don't. "

Tony,

1) Your 'motivation' should be deeper than money lost - your 'punishment' is the money lost. Instead, please consider that you'll ultimately have a better life if you can create your own VALUES ('motivation') as to why you truly need to get (and stay) fit.

Don't motivate your life on fear... motivate your life with QUALITY/VALUES.

2) Salt:
Go read about electrolytes. You'll find how/why they are important for the body during heavy training... but our normal processed food is full of sodium (often ill-quality) for flavor and preservatives and not for electrolyte balance. But you need the full electrolytes in good balance. If you get off the processed food you have a better control of your body: less bloat, for example: and then you can CHOOSE the supplements you need depending on your training/sweat levels.

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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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atl_tony, stop stuffing twenty dollar bills down other people's pants and start savin'em, cuz you'll need'em when we're done witchu. :-)


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Atl_tony, I'd love to be your buddy if you still need one. :)

I love to cook, so I'll put as many recipes on the wiki page as I can when I come up with them. If anyone is looking for a natural way to spice up their food, I highly suggest growing some herbs. I always keep fresh rosemary, basil, and oregano around. They are basically weeds, so you don't have to have a greeen thumb to raise them. Just give them water often. You can buy plants either at your local garden center or the grocery store. It's much cheaper than buying herbs packaged and they are always available. I also have Sage, but for the life of me can't come up with a way to use it, so it just sits on my microwave and grows.

I am giving myself one week to purge the cabinets of processed foods. I was shocked to see that my Health Nut bread has high fructose corn syrup- gasp! Even my mustard has sugar. This is going to take some serious label reading and smart shopping :)


Jodi
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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Excellent! keep me accountable :)

Lauren - you are right about the motivation coming from within - I almost used 'punishment' but then thought I'd keep it more positive. My real motivation is better health and a longer time to be around for my wife and son. Oh and to run faster :)
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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I think a website where we all posted our current weight and our goal and posted weekly status updates, as well as a place for a thread, would be really helpful. In addition, each person could have a place to state their consequences if they do NOT meet their goal.

I think the public statement of goals and consequences and progress would make a BIG difference in focusing people on working towards their goals.

A long thread like this becomes anonymous very quickly.

Not that I know how to set up a website like that, of course. :-)
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"I think a website where we all posted our current weight and our goal and posted weekly status updates, as well as a place for a thread, would be really helpful. In addition, each person could have a place to state their consequences if they do NOT meet their goal.

I think the public statement of goals and consequences and progress would make a BIG difference in focusing people on working towards their goals."

Good point.... and this is where the wiki can work well. My brain is full and I already have a pile of client (paid!) projects... maybe I can set a few minutes to think about which layout/text/copy can work best.

Thanks,
Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [GP] [ In reply to ]
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Agreed. Would a Wiki be best? I have no experience in this.

I could set up a simple page this weekend with an editable chart for logging weights/personal goals/consequences and include a forum if everyone wants.
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We could use the Wiki site that Lauren set up, and addition it is very easy to set up a blog for yourself. It's free and you can form little "communities". I am going to set up another one just for the Health challenge. Just go to http://blogspot.com

I can set up a list of everyone in the challenge who has websites and a "blogger" page full of our links if you are interested. It is easy to post pictures as well if you want before and afters to keep motivated. I can give more detailed instructions on how to change your templates, make your profile, etc. The pro's to the blogspot page is that it is not "open access" and everyone has their own password, so the only one that can modify your page is you. (unless you give out your username and password). I certainly hope that wouldn't be a problem with the wiki page, but you never know :) If you want I could certainly be a moderator of a Health Challenge blog. I could update everone's stats and pictures. Just let me know if you're interested.

Jodi
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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I made a small change to the wiki that Lauren set up.If you like it I can start adding names in that table to track down our progress.

Thanks,
Alex
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In my opinion, we need an outside source (wiki, spreadsheet, whatever) to list the people involved in the challenge, their starting weight, weekly weight loss, goal weight and other goals. Just a one-pager with the crucial information listed line by line for each person. That list can either be updated by each person (using a wiki) or by one "administrator" person who will update it each week (if we use a spreadsheet). All other forum stuff should be done on ST. ST is what brought us together, so that's where this discussion should stay. I know I won't go to another forum or blog to keep up with this challenge.

I also think we should start a new thread each week to list our weight loss and what goals we were able to meet. Maybe Atl_Tony can start a thread every Monday morning with the date included so everyone knows where to post. That way, the threads won't get too big week to week.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [DawnT] [ In reply to ]
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I like your suggestions Dawn...I'll commit to starting the weekly thread each Monday morning.

Just updated the Wiki set up by Lauren with my stats.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the advice. I'm definitely trying to work on it. My good cholesterol is high, so they say that is good. Hopefully all this will help!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [alexandros] [ In reply to ]
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Looks good. I would just add:

total weight loss to date
remaining lbs to goal

This way we can keep track of total lbs lost during challenge and how many lbs we have left to lose.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [DawnT] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds great!

Alex, can you start adding our names?

Atl_Tony can you start a new thread on Monday?

Is everyone okay with this challenge starting on Monday? First weigh in, and first day to start officially tracking Lauren's goals is 9/11 (ooh, bad Karma, maybe we should start our weeks on Sunday)

Let's do this thing :)

Jodi
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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Cool. This is starting to come together. I've added myself into the list too. I hope you don't mind that I put myself above you in the list so it can be alphabetical.

Should we add columns for Starting Weight, Total Weight Loss, Total Lbs to Goal?
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [DawnT] [ In reply to ]
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Added.

Alex
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [alexandros] [ In reply to ]
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Start posting your data guys, whoever wants me to add them.It is not diffucult for someone to do it on his own but it is faster if one makes the changes.

Alex
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [alexandros] [ In reply to ]
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Excellent! Thanks!! I think everyone should just add themselves (this is the beauty of wiki). Just go to:

http://healthchallenge.pbwiki.com/

and press Edit Page. The format is pretty easy to figure out. Just add yourself in alphabetically. I'll go through the thread in a few days and add in anyone else who didn't do it themselves. So, we'll be all set for Monday's first big weigh-in.

Let's all have a good first week.
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I added weekly and cumulative "health points" for all people who want to follow Lauren's goals. I will post how the points add up and what everything is worth later today. We'll come to some sort of easy system.

Jodi
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That's great. Don't forget to include pts for weight loss each week along with the other goals from Lauren.

Come on, everyone - we want to see you on the list!
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What is the password??

Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
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"1) Your 'motivation' should be deeper than money lost - your 'punishment' is the money lost. Instead, please consider that you'll ultimately have a better life if you can create your own VALUES ('motivation') as to why you truly need to get (and stay) fit.

Don't motivate your life on fear... motivate your life with QUALITY/VALUES."

Telling people what their motivation should be will never work. Instead, leaders find what will motivate each individual and cultivate it. That is what works.
btw, I think you are helping lots of people on here and I have learned much. Thanks.
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"What is the password?? "

The password is "slowtwitch"

http://healthchallenge.pbwiki.com/



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certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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slowtwitch
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [DawnT] [ In reply to ]
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For people that have web pages, we can create a link on their names to their web pages, like Jodi suggested.

Alex
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [jasonk] [ In reply to ]
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The password is slowtwitch

I will definitely have points for weight loss, etc. I'll come up with a points list that we can discuss and edit ASAP
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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i guess the password is slowtwitch then ;)

Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
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Dawn - will be happy to start it each Monday. I set up a reminder on backpackit.com so I don't forget :)

Tony
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [jasonk] [ In reply to ]
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Points!

Daily (1 point each)

1) Cut out processed or refined foods: whole foods only: Fruits, veggies, meats (if you eat meats), fish, eggs, etc.
2) Ate 5-6 'meals' a day
3) Ate no processed sugar products, added sweetners, or sugar-sourced condiments (including honey, molasses, etc) as 'food'. (Your sugars can only be during your training - see #9). CHECKED ALL LABELS FOR 'High fructose corn syrup', sugar, etc.
4) Portion size no bigger than the palm (approx 1/2 c). (This doesn't count with salads).
5) Drank water as main liquid source
6) Maintained proper training/race nourishment and hydration, including broad-spectrum electrolytes according to sweat rate needs. Did not skimp on necessary carbs, gels, sports drinks during the important times before, during, after training.
7) Trained as normal - or better than normal. Checked my calorie expendature on http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/jcalories.html for enough calories to train and live.

Weekly: 1 point

1) 1x or less alcohol per WEEK

2) Less than 3 treat meals this week -

Weekly: 2 points

1) RECORDED ALL FOOD for at least 5-14 days to see eating patterns.

Weekly: 5 points

Lost weight if still above goal weight

Maintained weight once goal weight is achieved

Weekly: 2 points

Maintained weight if over goal weight


So...

Max points per day is 7

Max points per week is 7*7 =49 Plus a total of 9 bonus weekly points for: 2 or less treat meals (1), 1 or less alcohol drinks (1), journalling (2) and weight loss (5)

Total for a perfect week is 58

How is this? Should we deduct points for gaining weight? Is this too complicated?

Jodi
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Jodi-

Any recipes would be awesome! Thanks!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [tri2tri] [ In reply to ]
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This is great. I added a "date last weighed column", if that's cool.

Thanks again for doing this.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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That is great! Maybe it is a good idea to deduct points for putting on weight but I am afraid that some people might try too hard.

Alex
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ok, i have to ask this even though i think i know what the answer is going to be...how bad are whole wheat bagels for you? i love a bagel in the morning (yes, i have to break this habit), but are the ones that are fresh from the bagel store and whole wheat that bad?
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [tri2tri] [ In reply to ]
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I try to stay away from bagels for no other reason than they're high in calories (relatively). A large bagel can easily be 250 - 400 calories depending on where you get it. I'm also trying to cut back on the breads that I eat, so that's another reason to stay away. I love them on race day, but otherwise I try not to buy them.

How about using it as part of your "treat" meal?
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [DawnT] [ In reply to ]
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that's a good idea...i guess it is just a matter of breaking the habit...i'm going to try yogurt for breakfast
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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Just added my name on wiki. Being accountable to the group should be added incentive. My only problem now is the jar of hersheys kisses on my desk... Talk me down!
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Talk me down!

Just send them to Swimfan - he can store them in his Bento box!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [DawnT] [ In reply to ]
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So how do you add your info on the wiki?
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [NETSTQ] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry, got it, but no fair even when I hit my goal I am still the heaviest...lol
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [NETSTQ] [ In reply to ]
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Dammit, I'm cheating already. Walked by the chip truck at lunch, and they smelled sooo goood.... Salad for dinner it is....

Swimming Workout of the Day:

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2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
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Step away from the Hershey's kisses! Put them out of your reach. You can do this! Just think of how good you are going to feel once the sweets are out of your system. Trust me!

But I do like the "send them to swimfan" idea...

;)

Jodi
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. Added myself and added a link to "recipes" in the sidebar.

Oh, and I love PBWiki. My wife and I have been using it to track expenses, vacations, etc. I used it for a while at work to keep track of projects and I'm trying to get my company to adopt something very similar.

A question about this: Cut out processed or refined foods: whole foods only: Fruits, veggies, meats (if you eat meats), fish, eggs, etc.

How would pasta salad fit into that? Is it considered processed? What about instant oatmeal (for example, Nature's Path Instant Flax 'n Oats or Apple Cionnamon). It's got a lot of fiber and 14g of sugar (38g total carb) in 190-200 cal/packet. Good, or bad?




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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [NETSTQ] [ In reply to ]
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How did you do it? I've been trying and not having any luck?!

Thanks.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Lola] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, I am numbnut when it comes to these things. If it isn't excel forget about it. If anyone would care to add my data feel free

SteveA/ current 181lbs/ target 165lbs/ target date 12/31/06
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Lola] [ In reply to ]
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Actually i just copied someone elses, then pasted it then made changes as required. I do everything the hard way!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [NETSTQ] [ In reply to ]
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Actually how did Bryce get linked to a bio page, very cool idea for before and afters
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [NETSTQ] [ In reply to ]
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I made my name a clickable link by adding brackets around it. [bryce_d]

Read this for more help: http://yummy.pbwiki.com/WikiStyle




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I just added you in.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [DawnT] [ In reply to ]
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I saw that, thanks a bunch!

BTW - I created a log on www.fitday.com and that site is great!
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Bryce:

pasta salad - Processed
Instant oatmeal - Processed. Good, or bad? Bad

Cheers, Paul

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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Jodi, I have had similar success with a similar program. I have been eating paleo for eight months and in that time my total cholesterol has dropped from 138 to 113 (I am a 34 yr. old male). I cannot remember my HDL/LDL off hand - but they were just fine. I eat a ton of lean protein also.

Cheers, Paul

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [PaulC] [ In reply to ]
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here's the ingredients list:

organic rolled oats
organic evaporated cane juice (basically sugar)
organic flaxseeds and sea salt

is it just the cane juice that makes this bad? this seems like little to no processing to me.

so if i made oatmeal from a non-instant package (like if i bought it in bulk) and added a banana or two, that would be good?




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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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I like the idea of sending to swimfan also. I've been good today and didn't fall to the temptation of the hershey kiss.
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"so if i made oatmeal from a non-instant package (like if i bought it in bulk) and added a banana or two, that would be good? "

Yup. You can even buy The traditional oatmeal in the round box --that would work well enough!

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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [bryce_d] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Bryce

First a caveat - I eat pretty much a purely paleo diet so I do not eat any type of grain at all in my diet. Having said that, the rolled oats have already been processed (the rolling process) and the sugar cane has been processed to extract cane juice. I don't think the human body can get anything out of whole flaxseeds unless you are lucky enough to crush one of those little suckers between your teeth before swallowing. Perhaps I am too strict on the “processed” definition – but I’ll stick to it.

I would define unprocessed foods as anything that has been harvested and eaten directly with no added ingredients... e.g. fruits, nuts, berries, meat, seafood etc.

Cheers, Paul

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [DawnT] [ In reply to ]
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I'm dumb too. And fat. Here are my details...

Jamma.

318 lbs. yeah, 318, not a typo. going with a goal date of 10/31 to keep my goals smaller. Planning on around ~2 lbs a week, first goal is 299 on Halloween. With the ~2/week, I'm planning for 280 by the New Year, but will adjust accordingly if you don't mind. Oh, does this wiki thing allow for editing after the fact should I need to adjust? Thanks to whoever can submit my data.

Jamma.
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Hi Bryce,

What I do with my oatmeal is I add 1 teaspoon vanilla extract, 1 tablespoon natural peanut butter and a scoop of protein powder. Then you can cut up some bananas or apples and put those in. It makes a great meal and is very filling. it does add calories, but it's still between 400-500. Great for days with heavy workouts planned.

Jodi
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [jamma] [ In reply to ]
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Oh, man, you have been listening to swimfan for too long. Keep it positive! You can do this and we are all here for support. I think you will be amazed at how easy it is to lose weight if you stick to Lauren's plan. The hardest part is getting started. After the first few weeks you'll be in cruise control.

Wiki is totally editable, so don't worry about having to change things. I'll get it up there if no one else puts it in (the page is currently being edited by someone else so I can't get in). If you need any editing or need any stats put in feel free to email or PM me (jmthoms1@hotmail.com)

Jodi
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [PaulC] [ In reply to ]
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"I would define unprocessed foods as anything that has been harvested and eaten directly with no added ingredients... e.g. fruits, nuts, berries, meat, seafood etc. "

You can think VERY strictly but I prefer a better way, which allows for more variety but still retains health:

Processed = additives, preservatives, and stripped-down foods
(you can also used the word 'refined')

For example: some people can mash corn by hand to create a tortilla. Some people would call that processed, but if the ingredients are whole foods (whole grains, no stripped hulls/germ, etc) it is still a very healthy food.

Flaxseeds HAVE to be ground to get the best oils out. Many people recommend grinding (in a coffee grinder) right before eating. This is great but it's very strict. You can instead make a healthy choice for refrigerated flax seed oil in a dark bottle (the dark bottle and refrigeration keeps the oil from going rancid by warmth and light)

I was paleo for a while but it was too low-carb for me: I became ill. Now I choose grains carefully (and sporatically) but not base all my meals around them.

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"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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Simple wiki instructions:

If you want to create your own page which can be reached by clicking on your name in the home page chart do this:

Click on "Edit Page" ( one of the buttons in the top left of the page) and change your name to have brackets around it to look like this: [godzilla]

All of the other slashes, dashes and lines remain the same.

Save the edit and then your name on the home page will be highlighted. Click on your highlighted name and a new page will open where you can begin adding information by, again, hitting the edit button. You can just type as you would normally and this wil show up after you save the edit.

One style format that is very handy is to make a word or line bold. If you type:
**hello tri world**
It will show up in bold type.

When you are editing the page, in the right sidebar there is a link to "Style Help" which will give you all the information that you need to customize the format of your page.

Thanks for your rapt attention. I will now lower my seat.


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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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What to do about protein?

http://www.fitday.com/...html?Owner=saltman95

I have kept my journal all day today (see above). I think I have eaten fairly well....thus far, save for the banana bread this morning. There is a lot of time left in the day though. Anyway, I ate an entire chicken breast at lunch and threw in a zone bar (I know its processed) in the afternoon, but I realized I have been super low on protein. I ate more than usual today and I way low. Right now my ratio is 56%carbs/24%protein/20%fat. I am going for a run tonight which means I will be hungry when I get back. Trying to think of what I can eat to round out my diet today and its tough. I basically need a big steak! hmmmm......

Anyone else struggle with getting enough protein? What have you done?
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [saltman] [ In reply to ]
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"Trying to think of what I can eat to round out my diet today and its tough. I basically need a big steak! hmmmm... What to do about protein? "

Eat it.
Seriously.

Eat a steak. Why not? If you want it, and you aren't a confirmed vegetarian, go ahead.

Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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can anyone help me out with entering my info



current weight 199 target weight 175 target date 1/31/07 goal 24 lbs weighed on 9/07/06



I couldnt figure out how to start a new line
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [falk] [ In reply to ]
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Done, Just go into edit mode, Copy someelses line, paste where you want then modify the info without deleting any of the | symbols.

But your all set for now.

Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]
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thanks
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [jamma] [ In reply to ]
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Jamma - it looks like someone added you in so you should be all set. As Jodi said, you can adjust your goals and timeframes as you go. The wiki page is totally editable. If anyone wants step-by-step instructions to edit the page, just PM me.

We've got a great group going here everyone. Thanks to Atl_Tony for getting us all started! I'm having a good week. Just gotta keep it going through the weekend.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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Before I sign up what is the end date? I want to lose 20 pounds but only 1/2 pound a week.

I didn't gain 1 1/2 ponds a week so why would I lose 1 1/2 pounds a week?
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Pam] [ In reply to ]
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You can choose your own end date. Most have it either 12/31/06 or 1/31/06, but I see at least one goes into March. I've set up my first goal for 12/31/06. I might extend it from there.
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Pam] [ In reply to ]
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excellent point! I've been thinking about this thread and I'm so excited that everyone is so gung ho about losing weight and adopting healthier eating habits....I do want to point out that our existing eating habits have been created over a life time, so don't be to hard on yourselves and sometimes small changes are easier vs. cold turkey! For one, I'm a cookie freak, always have been....I can't quit them and if I did I know it wouldn't last long, so I have a few brands which I buy that have no refined sugars or crap! They're expensive but worth it! :) Good Luck everyone! :)

Also thank you Lauren for your great recipe with the eggs, bread and soy cheese! It's actually my lunch today! Love it!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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OK, it's taken me 2 days to read all these posts, but I'm in!

Lost 30lbs a year ago, I've gained 10 of it back, so 150 (and small change) now, want to get to 130. No more than 1 lb a week for me.

As for motivation, my initial motivation still holds, I want to be the best example for my 5 yr old daughter that I can, healthy and strong (Fast wouldn't hurt, but I suspect even weight loss won't acheive that. She still cheers the loudest either way.) Additionally, I must say, wet spandex after a swim is no time to be photographed at this weight!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [atl_tony] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in, just got back from a cruise where I gained 5lbs in 5 days, ugh damn buffets. Couple that with the fact that I've been injured the last 6 weeks and not able to S/B/R and I'm up to 194. I weighed in at LP this year at 185 so I'm up 9 lbs in 6 weeks. I'd like to get down to 174 for 1/1 and get my bf% under 10 this year, currently at 15%. Wow 174 after being 240 3 years ago when I started tris...

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Colossal Quads] [ In reply to ]
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Nice work Colossal. Amazing what getting out there will do for you, isn't it?

I last weighed myself probably in March or April, and came in around 194. I've had people telling me I've lost weight, but I feel like I'm pretty close to the same. A season of swimming and biking, and a little running(injured like Colossal), and I weighed myself today at 179. My goal has always been to get back to high school weight of 177. Now that I'm pretty muc there, I'm adjusting the goals.

Question for Lauren or others: This may have been a rationalization for carrying more weight, but I have always said since I have the build of a running back than a runner, that I would automatically carry more weight. Would a better plan be to look at finding out body fat % first before setting a goal weight? I'm 5'8", and when I saw my weight today, I started wondering if 165 would be a possible long term weight, but then I also have to wonder if I have 14 pounds more that I can lose. How would you suggest going about this?


"I can endure more pain than anyone you've ever met. That's why I can beat anyone I've ever met." Steve Prefontaine, Without Limits
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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After a terrible weekend of eating (but it was race weekend) I am so ready to start this! I just got back from Wild Oats and did my whole week of organic/ no processed food/ no sugar added shopping. It was really easy at Wild Oats since everything they sell is super duper healthy. Not cheap, though. So now I am making a giant pot of chili to eat at night this week.

I put a few recipes on our site. I definitely recommend the chili because it is low calorie, filling, and easy to make.

Good luck with week 1 everyone!

Jodi
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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good recipes! thanks
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Bluefan75] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. Well it's a little misleading, I was 240 with about 16-18% BF as I was involved in football and rugby in HS/College. Very big into lifting. The handle comes from that, My quads used to be so big that I had a hard time running because they would rub together so much, they each were over 28". I hit my HS Senior weight of 185 this year while training for LP. I've also seen my times come down quite a bit in those three years though, and hoping to continue the trend next year!

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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OK, I'm in. I added myself and hopefully didn't mess anything else up in the process!
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Bluefan75] [ In reply to ]
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 "This may have been a rationalization for carrying more weight, but I have always said since I have the build of a running back than a runner, that I would automatically carry more weight. Would a better plan be to look at finding out body fat % first before setting a goal weight? I'm 5'8", and when I saw my weight today, I started wondering if 165 would be a possible long term weight, but then I also have to wonder if I have 14 pounds more that I can lose. How would you suggest going about this? "

I have always said that "weight" (on a scale) means nothing -- especially for people who have huge bones and solid muscle vs. people who are light and tiny naturally. If you come from (say) healthy German sheep-herder stock [of genetics], you will never be a tiny light Japanese person. You must choose goals consistant with your genetic body structure....... In addition, water weight (especially filled glycogen stores) are pretty heavy also. Bodyfat levels are a better indicator for your fitness.

That being said, that doesn't mean you can't drop bodyfat which you've added over the years from bad habits and the natural aging process.

Getting your BF% tested is a great idea - this can be done cheaply enough by a qualified person at a sports dept of a college or a facility which has calipers (not the BF 'scale'). Calipers and/or hydrostatic weighing (for BF) are best methods; those BF 'scales' (which measure impedance) are not accurate.

I know others who are naturally bigger also - denser. Thicker bones. Massive muscle bellies. These will make you THINK you are overweight because you cannot be easily compared with others. However, if you know you have bodyfat yet to go, it's truly better to set your sights on dropping the fat than thinking of the scale itself as your enemy.

Additionally (if you want more information), the worse you eat the more your body wants to hold onto bodyfat. I have my theories about this, but mostly I think it's a combination of hormonal responses (too much sugar makes the insulin-response system shut down and then store fat, plus adrenal overload doing the same thing) plus the body unable to process highly-refined and highly-'additive' "lab-food" (food simulations created in a lab -- sold as your next Lean Cuisine meal or whatever...)

This is why I have been highly advocating whole foods for this challenge. In short, your body can process whole foods -- and the more it does that, the less it can process the "lab-foods".

This is a long answer to say, check your bodyfat first and move from there -- or set a quality arbitrary [weight] number as a goal but don't think that's the be-all and end-all. Your goal is truly BEHAVIOR (and habit) CHANGE, and the by-product will be your 'weight loss' (fat loss).

Lauren



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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Jodi] [ In reply to ]
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I was just at wild oats yesterday too, seems like the place to be, a little better than whole foods market IMO.

I dont think everything is that more expensive, I have found that after checking prices I buy probably more than half the stuff here rather than publix. For instance, couscous and whole rice by the pound is cheaper, soy milk is cheaper and they usually have the light flavored ones, pinnaple and some fruits are less expensive too. I think you have to take some time comparing items and then its just becomes rutine.

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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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Lauren,

question re: whole foods. How does Hummus rank? I know its chick peas, tahini, etc..but does it count? I love the stuff, and though I think It's "healthy", i find I have little control with the party containers, prob. shouldn't keep it in the fridge. However, is it in the whole foods category?



thanks
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [manna] [ In reply to ]
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"How does Hummus rank? I know its chick peas, tahini, etc..but does it count? I love the stuff, and though I think It's "healthy", i find I have little control with the party containers, prob. shouldn't keep it in the fridge. However, is it in the whole foods category? "

Hummus is usually just ground chick peas, tahini olive oil and spices. Seems great to me, and I like it also. Even if it's prepared in a grocery store, it rarely (if ever) has addditional ingredients. Seems fine to me. Chick peas are a good portein, if I remember, and it's also a carb.

Watch what you dip into it. Preferred dipping: veggies.

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Lauren Muney
certified physical fitness trainer
certified health coach
wellcoach
http://www.physicalmind.com

There is no escape from your life... solve the problems and get on with it.

"Just tell her you love her and you think she kicks ass" ~AndrewinNH

"I'm moving [Lauren] to guru status" ~Last Tri in 83
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [Fitnesscoach] [ In reply to ]
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thanks-much appreciated. (veggies it is).
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Re: Resurrection of the 20lb weight loss challenge [manna] [ In reply to ]
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I've got a question about training/race nutrition...in an effort to get away from the high fructose corn syrup, i've been using the organic Clif bar products (the gel blocks and Mojo bars) instead of the powerbar products that i've used in the past. These have an ingredient called 'organic brown rice syrup.' is this analgous to/better than/worse than the high fructose corn syrup? Does it count as a 'processed' sugar?

I realize that for the contest refined carbs are allowed for training/racing, but is it something to stay away from or use sparingly throughout the rest of the day?

thanks,

chris
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