Thanks for posting I noticed it but hadn't heard of them before The hub looks tiny. I wondered if he would run the Revolver tri spoke as Alex Dowsett had in the past or if he would go back to the Enve. He did use their Asym disc so wonder if the Revolver trispoke works best for disc brake set-ups and the small hub on the Caden is better on a rim brake bike where the hub doesn't have to deal with braking forces?

He's been using that wheel for a while now in some form or another. Looks like they put some caps on it and ran a solid track axle (in that picture) for the front. It's the same mold as the Revolver wheel (the non-disc version at least)
I know at least one person on here that has tested the wheel and found it pretty slippery.

I've got an open mold of it set up tubeless on my TT bike, I was about to order another tubular for the track bike but I decided to wait a little bit and see what Aerocoach's trispoke looks like.

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What am I looking at here? Counter weights? Scale comparison?

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Honestly I have no idea what is going on here. This looks like a regular rim and not the trispoke, so maybe they are trying to find some appeal with my fellow Americans by comparing rim depths to various rounds of ammo?

I picked up a LightBicycle 69mm trispoke earlier in the year for $417+shipping and love it. It’s been great in TT’s and on the track. https://www.lightbicycle.com/...-Twill-Vertical.html

They're trying to show that these wheels are of a high calibre.

Someone is going to shoot you down for writing that.

Could you provide a link where the open mold version can be purchased?

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This wheel isn't an open mould wheel, its designed to be an improvement upon the pro trispoke. Slightly Deeper, Wider rim and smaller hub

hmm. It definitely looks like the same (open) mould as the Revolver wheel with a slightly different hub in it to me. Got more info on that?

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Synergy (Xiamen) store on Alibaba is where I got mine. A few stores sell it, kinda like ebay, just pick a seller with a lot of good feedback.

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The whole shape of each of the spokes is different, and the way it connects to the rim. They are super similar, but you can for sure see they aren't the same wheel. I haven't seen any copies of the Caden tri spoke at all compared to the heap of the revolver tri spoke on multiple websites

Hmm I guess the spokes are straight vs the revolver clones.
I must be getting old, would have never missed that 5 years ago. Not just my speed that's waning it seems

Interesting, I'll have to look for one like that

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Does anyone have a rough idea on the potential watts savings for this wheel over something like a Zipp 808? I understand it depends on the bike/fork, etc.....


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The whole shape of each of the spokes is different, and the way it connects to the rim. They are super similar, but you can for sure see they aren't the same wheel. I haven't seen any copies of the Caden tri spoke at all compared to the heap of the revolver tri spoke on multiple websites

Pro 3 Spoke: $2999.99 (out of production?)
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0509/5317/products/PRO_3Spoke_1_1454x.png?v=1568971012

Caden 3 Spoke: $2166.00 (currently marked down to $1408.00)
https://cadencycling.com/...%20copy2-500x500.jpg

Revolver 3 Spoke: ~$1221.76 (895.00 GBP)
https://www.revolverwheels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/new-troika-main-scaled.jpg

LightBicycle 3 Spoke: $400 (+$30 for engraved brake track -3% for repeat costumers, my total was $417.)
https://www.lightbicycle.com/photowall-compress/Full-Carbon-69mm-Trispoke-Wheel-For-Road-Rim-Brake-Bike-3K-Twill-Vertical/time-trial-triathlon-tri-spoke-carbon-wheel-road-rim-brake.jpg

Completely irrelevant.

You gain 50w in cool factor running a tri spoke.

I’ve tested this exact wheel against a 60mm and 80mm………… 13km hilly loop which certainly doesn’t favour a trispoke but it still out performs the other wheels.
I’ve ridden this front wheel in several races now (70.3 and IM)…….. haven’t tested wattage saving but it certainly feels significantly quicker than 60/80mm especially on flat fast efforts

Can I ask you for the weight of your LightBike tri spoke? It looks like a very cheap option and if on par with the Revolver, etc., would be a complete no brainer!

I’m generally between 150-155 anymore.
I believe there is at least one other SlowTwitcher that’s has one as well and I’d say he’s just an all around bigger guy than I am. Regardless the wheel feels solid in the 3 bikes that I’ve had it in.
https://www.instagram.com/...utm_medium=copy_link

How are the bearings holding up? On my trispoke (also from LB) they were rough when new and getting worse...

They’ve been great so far this year! My only beef ,since I went for some custom options like the engraved brake track and no decals, if that delivery from China took about 7-8 weeks from the time of payment.

At that price I'm tempted to order one for when I go back to the tunnel to test. (or if anyone wants to lend me one next time I go, I can test it on a full sweep)

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I saw the Ribble/Weldtight team was using a TriSpoke at the Tour of Britain TTT. I thought it was the pro TriSpoke, but I guess it is something else. AeroCoach hints at something like this coming from them. It will be really interesting to see if we are all back on Trispokes in a couple years.

If I’m not racing it, you are more than welcome to take mine to the tunnel when you go back. It currently has a veloflex record (23mm but measures 25 with Vittoria latex tube). I actually really want to get a 2nd one in a tubular as most trackies still don’t trust clinchers, in the event of a flat.

Every time I've gone to the website, the Caden is on sale. It's possible they're like Rudy Project where nobody pays MSRP.

When will the next trip to the tunnel be? May be able
To help out.
World junior TT champ rode the Caden trispoke as well, to be honest I’ve been surprised how long it’s taken for the wheels to be found, their disc/trispoke option total weight is 1830g

IDK

One person contacted me and I've got some wheels that need to be tested for a company.

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I have a 58 T4 that could be made available. Already slid into DD’s DMs about the trispoke. 😂

Haha everyone who has a T4 is a man. I need child size to be able to reach the pedals!

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Everyone has gotten the biggest size possible for the UCI 5cm rule. However with that said, I’ve seen some 48-54’s for sale recently on the interwebs.

indeed the 5cm rule is another head scratcher.

Looking at reach #'s it looks like I'm a 54. I could probably make one size either direction work, but since this is going to be my last n+1 for a long time, might has well get the right +1 :D

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Check out the reach on the newest bikes like the Maat. Fit minds will be blown if this trend trickles outside of halo track bikes.

Mine just arrived today. 876.1 grams. No tape needed and set up tubeless very easily. Should be able to ride it soon, but initial impressions are good. Took just under 10 weeks from order date to delivery in Los Angeles.

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I wonder how would LightBicycle TriSpoke performs against HED JED 9.

Yup, wheels have been on sale for as long as he's been selling wheels. Basically years. I did suggest on the Ozzie tri forum (that he visited) that he stop doing that as it kind of cheapens the name. It seems like some dodge carpet/rug wholesaler, 80% off sale!

This is very intriguing. I’m trying to decide on a LB Falcon 88 or this Tri Spoke for my first Gen P5.


What are the full specs in this wheel?

Internal width
Brake track width
Width at widest point
Trueness

Specs

Material: Toray T700 carbon fiber

Appearance: UD / 3K / 12K

Finish: Matt / Glossy

Type: Tubeless Clincher / Tubular

Version: Rim Brake / Disc Brake / Track

External Width: 27mm

Internal Width: 20mm

Depth: 69mm

Weight: 890g+/-30g (Front clincher rim brake version)

Hub: Powerway / Novatec / DT SWISS

Axle System: QR 100 front / 130mm rear, disc brake thru axle 12x100 / 12x142mm, track nuts

Run out deviation: ≤0.4mm

Pretty lame how to the caden logo lettering is a exact rip off of the Cadex wheel logos. Makes it look knockoff-ish. What were the back up branding ideas Zapp? HUD? Bit like a Rolux watch, Adidus merch, Kevin Klein underwear, Oaley sunglasses except your safety is riding on it.

I have super extensions and this open mold Revolver trispoke on the way.

I have a local Notio loop that I can get no variation lap to lap on and will try some tires out on that wheel and also against my 9+. A 0.4 mile circle with no elevation. Win.

Thank you very much. Checks all the boxes doesn’t it?

What tire would you put on this? 25mm or 23mm Vittoria Corsa Speed?

23mm because it will likely measure 25mm when mounted.

I’m using a tubular rim as it has double duties for track and time trials as does my bike as I ride fixed for 10 mile TTs.
23mm Corsa Speed Tubular.

Do any testing yet?

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Thursday is 60 outside, versus 35. So maybe so.

Has anyone had a chance to test it yet?

Any update on testing anyone ?

They have new 60mm tri-spoke wheels:



Trilight-C21 3-Spoke Clincher Front Wheel Disc Brake (lightbicycle.com)

I wonder how does it perform against old 69mm.

I saw that. As nice as the old 69’er rides, I doubt a shallower wheel is going to be faster for my 10’s or track events.

new wheel is lighter tho, new front wheel is 727g vs 890g old one. I am debating which one should I get, mostly for local TT races.

I've just opted for the Caden wheel instead. I like their thinking in its design.

I had a chat with Ben who owns the company and he said Dan Bingham does the research and development for Enios tt gear and that he sent them 10 tri spokes and discs to trial recently so if you see them in the peloton soon you will know they have tested well. Check out his disc, spoked wheel, very unique, all of his own design and under 1kg. Looks next level...

Yes, I think I had an identical chat with Ben and later spoke to Dan too. Guess who then bought the last one in stock ? ;-)

Unless your TT has a lot of turns or climbing, it looks like the smart money just pushed the envelope for deeper even if you gain a few grams. https://www.instagram.com/...?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Thats a cool looking tri spoke, what brand is it?
As for lightbicycle 69 vs 60mm trispoke, new version also has hidden valve and per manufacturer is also a bit stiffer.

Notice it was waves in it so I’d say it is an unreleased Princeton???

I don’t know how heavy your are or how many watts you put out in a sprint but the old one has been rock solid on the road and the track. Unlike many spokes wheels that ping pong between the brake pads over the years I’ve never thought this once about the LB 3 spoke that was have. Anyway, not here to pick apart the pros and cons. For me TT’ ing at 29-30 mph and race track at or above that, I’m happy to have the deepest and most aero wheel that the UCI will let me ride.

Not neccesarily replying to anyone in particular. I just received an Aliexpress trispoke today. Mounted up a tire but haven't taken it outside yet. I ended up purchasing this one which was $399 after all fees and shipping. Ordered on July 22, so exactly one month from order to delivery. This is for a rim brake bike. Initial impressions:

Quality looks very good overall
Brake track is VERY wide (27.5mm or so). It works with the TriRig Omega One but most rim brake calipers wouldn't be able to handle this.
Weighs well over what is advertised. Mine is 956g on a scale that seems to be fairly accurately calibrated. They advertise 820+-30g however they don't specify which build that is for.
Mounting a tire was on the tougher side from what I'm used to but not too bad. I did need to use the tire bead jack though. This is with a 23mm Michelin Power TT clincher. I don't have any tubeless tires to test it.
Bearings feel good for now at least. I'll keep an eye on those.

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I have this exact wheel. So far so good for me. Love it.

Is 69mm the limit? Why aren't there more 80-100mm deep trispokes?

Hey Ben, thanks for sharing the link and information to the 3-spoke you purchased, it certainly does look exactly like the same wheel sold for a lot more money from a couple of bigger brands.

-Do you plan on doing any power testing for this wheel as compared to your current front wheel option? (Princeton I'm guessing.) I'd be really curious if there is any measurable difference.

-What rear disc wheel do you ride or plan to ride on your rim brake Omni?

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I'm hoping to get some Chung testing in to test front wheels and cockpit tilts, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. I think I have a decent stretch of road but cars do drive by which would probably be enough to tank the data unfortunately. I'm definitely going to get some rides in on the trispoke, but I'd imagine for Santa Cruz 70.3 I'll probably stick with the 6560 for now with the potential cross winds on the rolling course.
I'm currently using a Ron Aeron X disc, which does the job well enough. I didn't buy it, but it's nice and wide and while it's not the lightest the braking is good on it. I was using a PCW 6560 with a wheelbuilder cover prior to having the Ron which seemed to work just as well.

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Too much surface area/ non open area??

There's a limited market for trispokes at best, so it doesn't make sense to develop a deeper commercial version that wouldn't sell well. And there are some federations that have restrictions on total front wheel surface area, which likely would further reduce the possible market for a deeper front trispoke even more.

I believe that Hed once made an 88mm trispoke, but I'm going from memory on this.

There's just not much of a need to be deeper than 60ish mm for trispokes. There's two reasons aerodynamically for the deep rim. First is to provide a smooth surface at the top of the wheel where relative airspeed is the highest. Moving the spokes and nipples inward towards the center takes them further from the maximum airspeed area at the top of the wheel and becomes more efficient the closer you get to the hub. Replacing the 20 spokes with 3 airfoils greatly minimizes the need to move the spokes inward. The second benefit is at the leading/trailing edge of the wheel, having a deeper rim creates a more efficient airfoil shape than a tire and box rim. Around 60mm depth on a 25mm tire is about as good as you can get for optimized chord/thickness.

All of this to say you could make the rim deeper, but it wouldn't make the wheel meaningfully faster.

I was just talking with someone who has the old deep HED TriSpoke. He finds it to be very tricky to ride in crosswind compared to other 80-90mm deep wheels.

Was the deep version a standard trispoke with a non-structural carbon fairing added to the rim for increased depth?

I believe that was the case for the H3D's. I don't think they had a specific mold made for them.

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looks like an h3 with a Jet/Stinger9 fairing added.

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Thank you! I was beginning to think that my memory was fading ;)

I remember when Lance unveiled that at a TDF prologue and it was pretty much developed for that. It was more aero than the Hed's standard tri spoke in very limited conditions and otherwise was slower so we never really saw it from there.

To be fair, deep section wheel cross wind stability has less to do with rim depth than stall angle management design characteristics. This is really fun stuff! As rim depth increases, for a given design, stall torque (what makes you hate the wheel) should increase generally proportionaly with the percentage of the tire+rim area of the wheel in relation to the wheel's total area (including spoked area) ahead of the steering axis, excluding the areas above and below longitidinal planes being equal to rim depth.

So in short, design can make up for depth and the reverse is true to an extent, but the deeper you go, the more good design becomes critically important for usability.

XYZ have a new tri spoke too....http://xyzbike.xyz/Product/Details/2101 Looks like a copy of the Corima WS TT https://www.corima.co.uk/...-wheel-clincher.html