Wicked that the guy who finished 5th in Kona gets to do an event as massive as a grand tour, and most of his peers have been relegated to local races, Strava KOMs, and cute little national hour records.

And in a big team not just a making-up-the-numbers one.

Good luck to him.

He will be in diesel engine mode for Carapaz (and let's see what Froome does or if Froome becomes a utility man for Carapaz). Cam was diesel guy in some of the classics already so he should be solid team help at Vuelta.

Great for him and clearly he has always wanted to be on a big world tour bike team and taken seriously, but this is the end of him for triathlon. He was just starting to get somewhere with his swim/run focus but already this season he had bad crashes in the classics and broke some ribs and hasnt swum for a month. his running has fallen off a lot too.

Bit sad as a fan to watch as if he continued his focus on swim/run he probably could have got on the podium in kona but no way he can now with all these world tour racing ruining his training for tri

I don't think this is for sure. It's only the end of triathlon for him if he wants it to be. Just because he gets out of swimming or running shape for a bit does not mean he cannot get it back before he's too old to be competitive....

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I heard him interviewed in a podcast fairly recently and he still sounded like triathlon was his end goal and Ineos were helping with that.

Don’t forget that he is a former WorldTour Rider for Carbondale before he switched to Tris. If I remember right he rode off the front of the peloton by in the 2014 Tour of Utah by pedaling in the aero tuck down a canyon.

I see it a it different. Let's not forget that he has been at this level before as a cyclist (i.e. not great but decent domestique) so he is not getting anything he hasn't had before. With the depth in TT talent at the top level, he won't be a factor in any time trial. So I don't think he will forget triathlon to focus on being (again) an average pro cyclist. He has a contract with Ineos so he has to ride to support Carapaz and maybe Froome. If Kona would be happening, I am certain he would have had a different schedule.

I completely agree. Cam is a pro athlete and he has a chance to do pro level racing in one of the top 5 races in the cycling calendar on one of the top teams in the world. He can do that, or just go in circles training for triathlons that are largely not happening. Cam has won enough tier 2 events in triathlon, that he'd probably rather race the Vuelta vs a low prominence triathlon.

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People saying he is done with tri's? He may be cycling focused now but had been sneaking in tri related training for some part of the season. Only a handful of his peers will have even raced let alone grand tours and classics. I am sure after the Vuelta he will head back to Australia for the summer focusing on tri's again and we will have some sort of season here. If anything I would think it would only give him an advantage over his peers.

In hindsight, he picked a pretty good year to go back to pro-cycling, financially speaking.

Interesting. I wonder how some rider who is actually on the team and got snubbed for a grand tour spot feels about it. Maybe from a publicity standpoint it makes sense for Ineos, but just seems like it could disrupt an organization's team dynamic bringing in a guest rider like this. I'd also be curious about how Froome and Carapaz feel about putting this guy on the Vuelta squad and if they've ever ridden with him. And sure, he may be an ex-pro, but it seems like we've seen a lot more crashes this year (speculation is guys are rusty, haven't been racing as much), so if he gets into or causes any type of crash could be a lot of blowback. Ineos has already had a lot of bad luck this year, this just seems like bad juju to me. We've seen a few tri guys go back into cycling before, its never particularly interesting (they are total non-factors).

He's been training with Froome and Thomas for years...they have the same coach. He's been to almost every team camp Sky/Ineos has had for the past few years and numerous times they've offered him a spot on the team.

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So much ignorance in this post.First off.Cam and Froome are mates and have done plenty of training together during Cams lead up to getting into Ironman.Cam has posted photos of the two of them riding together a number of times and you have to think that friendship is part of the reason Can got his gig at Ineos.It was his friendship with Froome that , in typical ST fashion,had some triathletes quietly questioning if he was on the "Froome Program"
Cam has already been driving the train at the front of the peloton at two of the rescheduled "Classics" in the last few weeks so his ability to ride with the big boys as a dimestique is proven.He is a cyclist who has swapped to triathlon and not the other way around.
If Hawaii had not been cancelled then I am sure his race calendar would have been different but I am sure Ineos is not into triathletes being novelty athletes like we are seeing here in ST.

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He is on the Australian team for the UCI Esports World Championship the week before Challenge Daytona in December.Don't know where he will be based for his virtual race but maybe he can do both events.He is silly enough.

Given the choice of being a Pro triathlete or ride for team Ineos, I would have chosen Ineos as Well. If for nothing else, the paycheck is probably better. This May hurt his swimming and running, But would improve his cycling?
As for him returning to tris, I wouldn’t ve very concerned. It’ll take some time for him to get back on top of swimming and running, But it’s not like he’ll be a beginner

Thanks for responding to that ignorance so no one else had to.

This is what I was thinking when Ironman races started to get postponed or cancelled. Wurf is on the Innoes payroll while working with his existing coach in a year few top tier triathlons going ahead.

I don’t think this is the choice he is making as others have said. I think he’s doing a cycling race then likely returning to triathlon.

His contract with Ineos was always as a diesel man to protect Ineos riders and also fit in tris around the original pre Covid19 world tour schedule in selected races with the plan to head back to Kona. So it was never a "cycling or nothing" contract. it was more of a contract where he got to do both and the team got to use him for his strengths. Given there are no tris and three Grand tours back to back to back with classics overlaid on top of the Giro, there was room for Cam to do this thing protecting their protected riders. As ThailandUltras and others have said, we'll expect him back at Tris this summer in Australia so his bike "camp" on the world tour should make him pretty solid. No way any pro triathlete is going to be able to train the bike in a focused block like Cam will be able to at the Vuelta. If he goes back to Oz and does his two week quarantine and shows up at IM Western OZ, its going to be ridiculous what his lead is at T2 and he should be able to jog it in for the race win quite easily given that almost no one can go race in Australia right now other than some Aussies and Kiwis.

As he is an Andorra resident and doesn't reside in Aus he may not be able to get back this summer. Our Prime Minister has just announced chartering planes to try to bring our stuck Aussies home, hoping to have many home by March. As I have said before on other posts here, it isn't as easy as just buying a ticket and quarantining, even for residents.

He won't be allowed in WA. Also while we dismiss another's POV as ignorance, the point was, could he use the time better to train the swim and run for Kona 2021.

Now it might be as simple as Ineos gives him a pay cheque. But in terms of pure I want to win Kona this may compromise it a little. Not so much as it will tire him out, but he could be missing an opportunity to work on his weakness.

From what I have observed, he has spent very little of his time in Australia. It's either Andorra or the US.

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He did used to come home to Oz each year and I didn't think about quarantine so he may not come home this year second thoughts. IMWA has been cancelled and he wouldn't be able to get into WA anyway and have to quarantine a second time if he did.

Did he not post a 22 km run @ 4 min / km the day after LBL. Don’t think his run has fallen off a cliff just yet!!!!

Would love it if we see him going for a brick run at the top of the Tourmalet.

He runs occaionally, but 4min/km for 20k's is nothing at pro level just an aerobic jog. I'm not saying its terrible for Cam to do a grand tour for ineos because as others said its a big paycheck in a proffesional sport much bigger than triathlon and he gets to ride with some of the best ever.

All im saying is that if Cam was ever to win kona or get top 3, this is not the way to do it. i suspect top 10 maybe 2 more times.

The real winners from this are Joe skipper, sebi, and lionel. Cam will do all the work on the bike at kona again but be maybe a little stronger, but will just drag all these guys along in the draft, and they will then be able to deliver with a top run spilt.

in cam's position he doesnt have the time availble to stop running for months at a time, not swim consistently to work on his stroke and keep progressing as a triathlete. bike racing = more crashes = more time not training for tri. but atleast he loves doing it which is the main thing as riding a grand tour in ineos would be epic.

Yep if he wants money this could be it. As far as goes winning Kona, this would be the time to improve the swimming and running.

Not even sure that if he didn't do the tour that he could take 5 minutes of his swim and 13 minutes of his run in one year of very focussed training.

These are big gains to be making towards the end of a career! But he has few pay days left and only he knows what is important to him.

Would be interesting to get the coaches perspective if someone posted I have an awesome bike leg, but I'm behind the pack and a bit gassed with my swim and while I've had some good runs I get left behind when the pace lifts and die a bit in the back half of my run.

So I'm going to stop running and swimming for a few months and bike more

I reckon it's pretty possible the race won't go ahead

Here’s a link to a decent interview with Cam back in July, it may give more insight if you’re interested- https://badboyrunningpodcast.com/cam-wurf

Haha...the summary of this thread on ST is that Cam is an idiot for not working on his weaknesss (run) and riding in a Grand Tour in a real professional sport with his good buddy Froome. Lionel is a hero for not working on his weakness (swim) and doing the Canadian Hour record on a lark. Lionel is a hero for sacrificing Kona next year for a chance at a payday at Challenge Daytona, Cam is an idiot for taking a paycheque to ride for Ineos.

OK OK, but do you see the double standard floating around ST? And the assumption is Cam is ignoring his run for many months when he clearly is not. Lionel has been explicit that he's been avoiding his swim.

Lets add in that someone thought this is a publicity stunt. Like Ineos needs publicity from an athlete that people outside of Slowtwitch barely know.

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And in fairness to Lionel, big kudos for going for the Cdn Hour record knowing he has not had enough velodrome time and given that bike handing on the velodrome is critical to efficiency of distance (do you guys remember at Kona 2018 when he got dropped by Cam and Sebi coming down from Hawi because he could not handle his bike and had to work all the way to Waikaloa just to catch back up). So Lionel is working a weakness for Kona next time, so there is that!

His Strava data suggests he is ignoring his run. 16k per week for the last 10 weeks, with 3 weeks of zero. Same time last year, he was smashing it - 80 to 100k weeks.

IMO, purely in terms of winning Kona (which is all he seems to want from Triathlon), another year of massive swimming & running volume was required. But, I certainly do not begrudge the guy for what he has done this year, for himself & his family.

If I could choose between riding as a domestique for Ineos or being a top level pro triathlete I would choose bike racing every time.

See my last line above... hard to argue against it.

Yeah, we see it the same. Mine was just a general reply to the thread. Sorry I didn’t make that clear.

Did not post at all in the Lionel Thread,

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His Strava data suggests he is ignoring his run. 16k per week for the last 10 weeks, with 3 weeks of zero. Same time last year, he was smashing it - 80 to 100k weeks.

IMO, purely in terms of winning Kona (which is all he seems to want from Triathlon), another year of massive swimming & running volume was required. But, I certainly do not begrudge the guy for what he has done this year, for himself & his family.

I did not say Cam was an idiot. I said I get that he may have reasons for doing this, money, motivates him, good for him for doing it. It is quite awesome that he is that good a rider that he can ride a pro tour at all, let alone at his age after not doing it full time for so long. I expect he will have a ball and his team will be happy with him.

As far as goes a single minded focus on working the weaknesses to bridge for 2021 it is maybe not the optimal use of his time. As NAB777 pointed out, its not three weeks it is 3 months putting run in the back pocket and then there is some time off after.

His opponents for 2021, JF, AB, PL and others won't be doing that.

I did ask if I was to say hey ST I am off the pace swimming and while my running has improved I'm still more than ten minutes behind the guys faster than me, so I've decided to not swim and run for three months to improve my bike which is already about as good as it can get, how would you respond.

The answer in true ST style is to answer well Lionel Sanders is doing some thing

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I suspect that,if Cam was American,we would be seeing a vastly different attitude to what he is doing here on ST and we would have to find a bloody huge bandwagon to fit everyone on board.

and if he was european (though possibly not german), everyone would take it for granted that he was doping.

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Hey, I think all you guys are assuming that everything he does gets on Strava. For all we know he is jogging 15-30 min here and there many times per week around his bike work just to not lose too much run adaptation. I don't think we can say he does nothing based on his run AFTER Liege Bastogne Liege the next day. Just think about his run at 4 min km's the next day right after one of the hardest monuments on the planet, so he has likely been doing some jogging to do that type of running the day after a monument. We may not see all that on Strava.

As for the Lionel angle, guilty as charged....I was just pointing out that on ST Lionel is a hero for ignoring his swim and doing a pro cycling event and Cam is a goat for ignoring his run and doing a pro cycling event :-)

If I may paraphrase: "If I were a sports agent, and my client could choose between riding as a domestique for Ineos [or Boels-Dolmans] being a top level pro triathlete I would talk them into bike racing every time"

Of course, I don't know if this is how things work in pro bike racing or triathlon, but ...

It's a good decision, especially in these uncertain economic times

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I was thinking about the money, yes, but also how cool it would be to ride in the pro peloton.

He has already finished three grand tours though, so riding such big race isn't really that new for him. Riding one with one of the biggest teams might be different though.

Cam himself has said numerous times says that he puts everything on Strava.
And 15 minutes here or there is not months & months of a 30k run once a week.

 
Cam himself has said numerous times says that he puts everything on Strava.
And 15 minutes here or there is not months & months of a 30k run once a week.

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He wont improve his bike time at Kona but he will miss an opportunity to be a runner or swimmer for three months

I know I may sound old school and totally out of touch with the present, but what if he didn't record all his runs on Strava? Is that really totally out of question?

This is what I was getting at. Does everyone actually record every workout all the time these days? I only record key workouts that I want to look back at. But maybe he records every step to see his overall training load if he does a lot of easy workouts all over the week around his key bike training and he wants to see their cumulative impact. Old school method you just recorded all those by hand.

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Pretty sure he'll be (and told to) preserving all his energies for riding his bike for the next 17 days - especially if the rest of the vuelta is anything as intense as stage 1.

Also pretty sure the income of a world tour rider is considerable higher than most professional triathletes. Especially this year!

Podcast he did with Bobby Julich

https://www.velonews.com/...-racing-as-training/

So he has!

https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/cameron-wurf

Apparently he was on LeakyGas/Cannondale - when they were sort of a big deal and had Basso, Sagan & Nibali on the roster; before Nibbles went to Astana

https://www.procyclingstats.com/...igas-cannondale-2011

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Ineos domestiques set the tempo and blew the peloton up in stage 1. Wurf was part of that. And over the next 16 stages he will find himself in a break and he will similarly work to blow the field up for Carapaz. But, yeah, he could have been in the pool instead training for Kona 12 months off. True that.

Christian Van Velde keeps refrering to him as Cam the Triathlete.

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I know, it’s hilarious. He’s been doing some impressive work these past 2 days as well as in the other races he’s started in the last couple months.

Dev I do so few I have to, there wouldn't be much on strava for me !

Is a year of little running and biking really going to make a difference to an experienced triathlete when Kona is still some way off ?

Haha...Cam would have had enough time after today's stage to crank out a fast 1km transition run before Froome showed up at the finish line and then they could go get beers together. And Cam was only 6 min behind Dumoulin on a tough stage today. Tough day for Tom D.

He's doing great and its probably heaps more fun than training for an IM a year away and he's getting a pay day.

In much the same way that if you make ONE joke about Band Camp, you're marked for life as "That Flute Girl"

I heard today's commentary and he actually asked first "Can we call him 'Triathlete Cam?' 'Cam the Triathlete?'" But was quick to say "Good to see him doing Grand Tours again, after being away for a while"

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CVV said yesterday something to the effect of "I bet all his triathlon buddies are jealous that he's at the front of the peloton in a Grand Tour, while they're sitting at home"

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Cam can just go to the Veldrome in Bordeuax after this Giro is over and make sure he takes down Lionel's number on hour record.

And today's CVV quote "one of the best domestiques in the peleton"

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They're in Spain, dude

I know it's confusing with both going on at the same time, and somewhat simultaneously, as well

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I know better than that....I meant to type Vuelta but had a Giro stream playing in the background and my fingers just typed Giro.

First of all, the correct nickname for Nibali is obviously "Nibbler," and second... "LeakyGas"? Really?

Back to the Vuelta, Cam and Froome look like they rode together 17 and 18 min back today on Formigal. That's the stage where Froome lost the Vuelta on the Contador+Quintana ambush in 2016! Today was the replacement for Tourmalet.

So France, now that they got their Grand Tour done, told the Giro to go away from Izouard and Vuelta to not have their Tourmalet summit both this weekend!!!

Leakygas lololololololol

Haha thats a good new thread or gameshow

Leaky gas
Greg lemons
Cuddle evans
Lance I Am Strong
Peter Sagging
Miguel In the Rain
Team Skai (thats european for pleather)
Matthew From the Pool
Michael Race Missin

Jeans Void

It's far from new

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...?post=773334#p773334

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Just a general reply to the thread. It appears that Wurf and Froome are riding lock step with each other on most stages.

Wurf is 116th overall and Froome is 114th. Both ~1:20 down on Carapaz on GC. Cam seems to be exactly where we would expect him. Froome, well hopefully this is all part of recovery for next year.

Yes but in August seemed to have the virus under control. Macron looks like he is announcing a one month lockdown tonight. Some countries are taking it seriously!

Indeed, in august and september virus control was reasonnably OK in France.

From October it went up vers seriously (apparantly as the consequence of a cold period end of september), and the gouvernement had to make serious changes to the policy, now up to a 4 week "full" containment to be announced tonight.

So, authorizing many peoples to gather in Briancon (you need to go through the city for Col d'angel, Izooard) and around Tourmalet was perceived by the government as not coherent, conflicting messages ....

Don't know what is the weather currently in the US, but one month after real cold (10° is "real cold" in France :-) be ready for a big virus wave :-(

I am in Canada, and its colder (lots of days down around 5C or colder in most of the country) and we're trending at 2700 cases per day up from 1700 per day during the peak in the spring. Deaths now 30 per day vs 175 per day at the spring peak. Hospital capacity is 2 weeks or more ahead of deaths but from what I read locally, there is buffer here to manage more. We've gone back to stricter measures in parts of the country but it seems there is Covid19 fatigues and idiots are being Covidiots and not helping....oh well.

But we did not need to be geniuses to figure out that what France was allowing back in September during the Tour de France was going to bite eventually, but hey they got their Grand Tour in which is what they wanted even if cases back then were already rapidly rising and shooting past 10K per day, and they don't want other Grand tours showing up now. Its OK let's just call a spade a spade and enjoy the Vuelta.

But back to Cam at the Vuelta, the guy is doing just fine, he is getting paid, for what he is supposed to do, earning a paycheque and riding with his buddy Froome while in a lot of the world athletes are limited to almost no racing. It is a win for him. I am sure by Kona next year, he will be back on track. Or he will just keep racing pro cycling since this sport is happening and triathlon is largely dead without age groupers being able to race (it shows you that pro triathlon cannot exist without age groupers which means without deep pockets like PTO there is no pro triathlon...age groupers are the deep pockets that keep pro triathlon going in general).

I love Canada
My son live in Montreal, and apparently yes cold is coming

Yes Cam Wurf is doing well. Great job leading the peloton for long portions.
Hopefully (for us spectators) he will succeed to keep his swimming and running level to be competitive in Kona 21.

And I agree with you, it clearly show the dependency of LD Tri to age group participation, with no TV rights, limited interest from sponsors...

Tour, Giro, Vuelta occured
Kona did not... because not sustainable as pro only I guess

Here is Cam talking on the Bicycling Australia podcast during the rest day of the Vuelta this week. It will give people a lot more info about him and his transition from cycling to tri and back than most people have seen or heard.

i will admit that I was overloaded with staying up all night here in Oz watching the cycling for the last few weeks and had stopped watching but after listening to this I'll be back at it again..Those guys are just nuts!
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http://www.bicyclingaustralia.com.au/news/team-ineos-rider-cameron-wurf-joins-patrick-jonker-on-bicycling-australia-podcast?fbclid=IwAR1-Qrlv_kFOeq8PQEo41QMF0u4A1SEte-2jq4vx_YQ_4yIuaKzAW6gWjJk

Do we know Cam's contract duration with Ineos and if it goes on next year too in the lead up to a potential Kona 2021. Hawaii is allowing people in with a Covid19 test now, so that's a good start to enable travel there

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If Cam is required for service on the road he will race with the Ineos team until probably after next years TdF at which time he will focus on Kona.He does not believe he needs to race a tri season to be ready for Kona and is quite prepared for Kona 2021 to be his first Ironman since Kona 2019.Apparently his deal with Ineos has always been his being an Ironman first and team rider second, it is just that this year is so screwed up that they have run low on numbers to make up their teams with the Grand Tour overlaps and the stacked "Classics".

Every day I've put Eurosport on this week to catch the Vuetla coverage the first face I've seen is Cameron Wurf.... and now riding to protect the leaders jersey too. Stuff of dreams.

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Yeah,it was great to listen to Cam talk about how he dosen't want to think about it all too much because he really can't believe that he is actually there riding this thing and trying to help the team win it.He does sound like a kid on Christmas morning.

Haha...three years ago this is what he did at Kona riding at the front to help Lionel win it, but Lionel let Lange blow by. Hopefully Carapez delivers over Roglic for Cam. I am not sure who in the GC I am cheering for right now.

I am not following closely, but the Spanish TV commentator just said that Cameron leading the peloton was a signal that they were not going too fast. Pedro Delgado and purito Fernandez didn't dispute so I guess this is the general feeling about his current status.

Haha, the commentators may also not know what they are talking about since Cameron was out front working at the front of the train on several of the Northern Classics this year already. So if that qualifies as "not going fast" then fine, but tell that to Van Aert and Van Der Poel that the pace was slack in some of those races :-). If it is to downplay the level of cycling at triathlon, then Jen Voigt is welcome to join Lionel for a swim and a run, then after that they can both hit the track for an hour. Or Jens can and Lionel can just get on the track fresh and pound it out in a 1 hour pursuit. My gut feel is Lionel catches Jens in 15 minutes (but that would be a fun race to watch with the two guys 8.5 seconds in the draft of the other). And Cam is faster than Lionel in triathlons (although he may or may not be faster than Lionel fresh over 1 hour)

Fun thing is that Jens is actually commentating the Vuelta for the German Eurosport. He respects Wurf though.

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Does Jens make jokes all the time and add insider experiences? That would be great to see

Cyclists might have laughed when Wurf crossed over to tri at 34 and started handing it to career pros but at least hes doing it back to pro cycling now 3 years later

Now he will convince Froome to do Ironman after he retires and turns 40 and a bunch of 40-44's will start crying that Froome is taking their KQ slots LOL!

Interesting choice of words. Lange blew by everyone on the run

They weren't going too fast. Wurf's job is to keep the break manageable, not to cause any damage in the peloton.

And he did his part there, keeping the Soler break under control.

It's the rest of Ineos that almost instantly disappeared once the race was "on." (Outside of Carapaz, who held his own, on his own).

Thats better than being excited to be invited to the vuelta but your role turns out to slow down the peloton if your guy gets away in a breakaway

Well today he's *in* the break, which I find a bit odd because he's never been much of climber. But maybe the theory is if he spends more effort early he'll be able to slip backward on the penultimate climb and last longer into the day.

Haha....Cam hammering at the front of the break on Alto de Mozqueta like he is trying gap Jan and Alistair going up to Hawi. And this is on an 7 km 8% grade which a 50% Alpe d'Huez equivalent.

Not hammering. This is just tempo. The break lost time to the one Jumbo-Visma guy setting tempo for the peloton.

Bottom line Cam should arrive at bottom of Angliru with the lead group. He picked a good year to be doing a pro sport that can actually happen without mass participation.

Edit: Movistar has gap down to 1:30 on Alto de la Mozqueta....one more climb in between to get to Angliru. It will be tough for th breakaway to stay away.

Yes and his doing great. His in the break today and all.

The breakaway broke apart. Cam ended in the second group, but I have seen him driving hard to pull it back. Looks like they are around 5-8 second back of the lead group with Guillaume Martin. Peloton chasing hard to pull it all back through as Movistar wants one of their guys winning on Angliru

Cam can go go do some jogging at the top of Angliru to cool down to make people on this thread happy that he is not getting out of shape for Kona 2021

Did you not see stage 7 when there was a huge breakaway group of 40 riders with every team represented except Ineos? And Ineos had the red jersey to protect. So, every team in the break was motivated to drive the break and, conversely, no team in the peloton would work to help Ineos. So, it was Wurf + 3 who were left alone that to fight against a break of 40 and keep Carapaz in red. Which they did. Wurf earned his salary that day.

That's what I meant, its impressive riding when its 3 or 4 riders versus a motivated pack of 40 pros who are probably taking turns leading.

thats more satisfying than situations like when lance had come out of retirement and instead of racing, had to stay back from contador/astana breakaways to backpedal and block wiggins/garmin

 
Cam Wurf STRAVA for the Vuelta TT (Stage 13) :
https://www.strava.com/.../4283941533/overview

The flat portion (31km) is 380w average.
The steep portion (2km) is 400w average.

Not bad, in line with FTP around 380/400w, a bit better than figures published from mid 2018.

Approx same time as Froome. I guess Froome is slowly getting back on track after his huge accident. Seems now the basics came back, hopefully the top end will come back next spring :-)

Both are 5mn down the winner. Cam is probably a bit heavy for the last part, and would have needed more than 400w in the steep final part, but don't think he went too far in suffering and, hey, he is a triathlete, not a puncher.... thank god for a low VLAMAX :-)

I very much like Cam transparency, always publishing watt figures. It was interesting to look at his training with Froome and the others, in Andorra before Vuelta. They had some nice "lactate handling" sessions up some climbs :-)

The thing is neither Cam or Froome had any incentive to go harder than necessary to beat the cut off in the TT so these numbers are kind of irrelevant.
They'll have been preserving as much in the tank for the last week as possible.

Checkout Froome's heart rate for those sort of watts!

So now that Vuelta is done did Cam crank out a 21.1km run or are they having a team party to send Froome off to Isreal Startup Nation?

I must say, I am reasonably surprised with how seemingly well Cam got through the Vuelta, given his training volumes compared to pro cyclists over the past 3-4 years. The guy must have a decent suitcase of talent.

OK did Cam do a 10km swim and marathon on his day off today?

Was it a manual strava entry? Youd hope he had a hot tub and walked his dog, otherwise pro cycling might look a bit soft

Heart rate means squat. He could be at threshold at 145. You know his Max?

I saw a tweet of his saying rest day 3 would be a morning swim and afternoon run.

Doesn't he need to whip his ass in shape for challenge Daytona....all those swim studs will be drafting each other all the way to T2 and Cam's gonna feel like he just got dropped going up Angliru!!!