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ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200?
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Hi Everyone! Hey, the last four years or so (?) I've really enjoyed Dev's ST 100 Runs in 100 Day Challenge. And since there are basically NO RACES this year, maybe some folks wanna embark on a 2020 edition where we start, say 2nd week in September 9/14 and do 200 Runs in 200 Days Challenge? Or maybe Oct 1 start? Idk.

Same rules for 100/100 would apply with minimum runs times, and making sure the #1 priority is AVOIDING INJURY so it's okay to do 80% or 70% of the Runs taking proper Rest Days.

I'm one for drawing on the energy of a group, rather than doing this alone. Just throwing it out there to see if anyone's interested. Thought it might be Fun and a great way to get some sick Run fitness, strength and durability for when Race (hopefully!) resume in 2021.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Never been able to join the 100/100 because of stupid injuries ! But Corona did good - I’m all in for the 200/200

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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Bobby! I know I'd like to do the 100/100 once my stupid calf heals up-timing...TBD...but 200/200 sounds like a lot, at least for me. I'm sure there are many who have transitioned to a 'run focus' and this would be awesome for them. My running years are behind me now, so I like to do the 'least I can get away with'-ha.

Base=volume with a slow ramp and these challenges are great for that. You'll likely get more interest than you think.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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I think that’s a great idea. Thinking Bluestacks will have in done in a couple of weeks! I’d join.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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I would be up for this... 2 months into trying MAF style training so more volume is on the cards
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Hmmm... thinking we need more than 4 people interested to get this thing off the ground. What say you ST Community -- any others interested in a 200/200 Run Challenge starting next month??
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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I'm finishing making up for my early exit out of the 100/100 in February. I'm not sure exactly where I'm at, but I've missed 4 days since may 30th. Ive been running 10-14 runs /85 miles a week since July 1st. I think I'll need a break here soon.

Edit: just checked....82 / 86 since may 30th. 144 total runs (857 miles) including double / triple / quadruple days, but a few of those probably don't meet the 1 hour down time rule (eg, the backyard ultra).
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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We are tentatively moving forward the start date of 100/100. And we're progressing toward having some build-up programs available for people to ramp into 100/100, along with some other interesting stuff.

Your interest is, however, noted.

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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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I started my own 6th Annual Screaming Tortise Endless Summer 100 Runs/100 Days* Challenge on Memorial Day weekend

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAdjcsbH8on/

I am currently at 81 runs on 87 days, with a streak in there of 53 days. This is better than any previous Slowtwitch 100/100 attempt, and matches my best Endless Summer result

ETA: Nope, not quite; I re-reviewed my results and 2018's Endless Summer was 86/100, so I have a little more work to do




* Because Memorial Day was early and Labor Day is late, it's actually 109 days, but '100/100' has much better "flow"


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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
I started my own 6th Annual Screaming Tortise Endless Summer 100 Runs/100 Days* Challenge on Memorial Day weekend

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAdjcsbH8on/

I am currently at 81 runs on 87 days, with a streak in there of 53 days. This is better than any previous Slowtwitch 100/100 attempt, and matches my best Endless Summer result




* Because Memorial Day was early and Labor Day is late, it's actually 109 days, but '100/100' has much better "flow"

That's freaking awesome - Congrats! My Dad's name is Randy. Good name.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry for not replying yet. After I finished 100/100 I was planning a major swim block and then Covid19 hit and what ended up happening is I ran 1000km in the next 12 weeks, missing only 2 days of running. During 100/100 I ran around 800km, so way more running but zero swimming. During 100/100 I was doing all sports.

So after my 1000km of Covid19 running, the outdoor water hit high enogh temps that I was able to go on the delayed swim block so I am on that now but generally running 6 days per week too. But I am personally not interested in being slave to a challenge related to running right now. I just want to run when I feel like it, but I am hyper motivated on swimming swimming 20-28km per week since I got access to water around June 10th. Currently at 240km swimming in the last 10 weeks post covid19. Goal is to swim across Lake Superior virtually (580km) post Covid19 before Xmas, so I am a bit ahead of all that, and I should have the bulk of my swim block done for when the annual 100/100 starts!!!
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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The 100/100 challenge was enough for me (hit 100 on day 69). I think it also messed up my 1/2 marathon training as well as impacting my biking. The rules just don’t conform well to my training schedule. I still plan on 25-30 miles per week but the long Z2 runs would have to go away. I would be interested in hearing from coaches on how they handle this?
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Jgill] [ In reply to ]
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Jgill wrote:
The 100/100 challenge was enough for me (hit 100 on day 69). I think it also messed up my 1/2 marathon training as well as impacting my biking. The rules just don’t conform well to my training schedule. I still plan on 25-30 miles per week but the long Z2 runs would have to go away. I would be interested in hearing from coaches on how they handle this?

I'm confused...what doesn't work? You don't have to run every day, and you don't have to split up your long run or do anything special at all. There is NOTHING in the rules that say you can't just follow your normal training schedule, taking days off, and doing long runs as per normal.

Perhaps the issue is your competitive spirit, not the rules? To be clear...I'm the pot calling the kettle (you) black. :-)
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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Funny. Maybe part of it was finishing fast.
I just didn’t want to do my long runs with an hour between each set of 30min or 3 miles. So when I go for a 9 - 10 mile run I would only get credit for a 3 miler. I just can’t put in the extra miles the next day when I am doing a long bike and a swim. I guess it’s a matter of load and timing impact. I am in my sixties and can’t recover like a lot of you. Maybe I am missing something? Thanks,
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Jgill] [ In reply to ]
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I'd be in for either. I had a friend that did the 100/100 and he had great things to say about it. I'm working my way to 2020 miles for 2020 so this would be a fun way to integrate it.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Jgill] [ In reply to ]
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Jgill wrote:
Funny. Maybe part of it was finishing fast.
I just didn’t want to do my long runs with an hour between each set of 30min or 3 miles. So when I go for a 9 - 10 mile run I would only get credit for a 3 miler

You don't quite get the rules; you get credit for A Run

Counting miles are secondary

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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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That was my point. My training schedule has me do a few long runs and I only get one run each time. So to do my training schedule and the run challenge, I would have to do more runs with the 1 hour separations. That adds additional workload that doesn’t allow me to recover for my other workouts. Training schedule of 3 to 4 runs a week adds at least 3 - 4 more for 9 to 12 additional miles (30 min. each). Not including trying to fit extra workouts into the day. I would lean more toward the slowtwitch Big Kahuna challenge since it is focused on all three sports and doesn’t force a change into my current training plan.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Jgill] [ In reply to ]
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Jgill wrote:
That was my point. My training schedule has me do a few long runs and I only get one run each time. So to do my training schedule and the run challenge, I would have to do more runs with the 1 hour separations. That adds additional workload that doesn’t allow me to recover for my other workouts. Training schedule of 3 to 4 runs a week adds at least 3 - 4 more for 9 to 12 additional miles (30 min. each). Not including trying to fit extra workouts into the day. I would lean more toward the slowtwitch Big Kahuna challenge since it is focused on all three sports and doesn’t force a change into my current training plan.

You do realize that in the 100/100 you can do a 30 minute run and cover say 4 miles, and you get credit for 1 run if you sort by runs and you get credit for 4 miles if you sort by distance and you get 30 min if you sort by time.

Now you could do a single run that is 5 hours long that is 40 miles long. In this case if you sort by number of runs, you get 1 run, if you sort by distance you get 40 miles, if you sort by time you get 5 hrs.

So the challenge gives you credit for whatever you want to be the hero at. I personally look at my aggregate miles, because my body only recognizes load, and frequency is the carrot to get to volume versus sacrificing volume for frequency (only a stupid person would do a single 30 run, wait for an hour and do another 30 min run in a 2 hrs training block when you can just get on with doing a single 2 hrs run if that's what's in your training plan.

But its up to you what you want to be a hero at. If you were doing 100 runs in 69 days and complaining that you can't train properly, well you only have yourself to blame!!!!

I'm not saying that we don't all get caught up in chasing stupid challenges and training stats....its OK to be a training log hero if that's what gets you to what you want out of sport, whether this is losing weight, being fitter, chasing performance at races, or just jacking up your self esteem by seeing yourself move up various standings (its all good).
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Jgill] [ In reply to ]
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Jgill wrote:
That was my point. My training schedule has me do a few long runs and I only get one run each time. So to do my training schedule and the run challenge, I would have to do more runs with the 1 hour separations.


You're still not getting it

3 miles is the minimum distance to count as a run, but not the ONLY distance you may run

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. I thought the OP was trying to get interest in this "frequency challenge". After doing the last one, I was trying to figure out why I would do the same challenge X 2. You can sort the list like you said but I thought the whole point was to see if you could do 100 runs in 100 days. I was not a runner and had no idea if I could finish it. If I follow my current schedule, I would not finish 200 runs in 200 days although I might get the same total workload (plus the other sports). So I guess no interest in this challenge.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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I understand that. I thought the whole point of this challenge is frequency not distance or time. but there are minimum qualifiers to count as a run. If i do long runs that count as 1 run and have to skip 2 days, how do you make up those days, you have to do multiple runs in a day.
thanks for trying to explain this but I just don't get this challenge unless you are just a runner or don't care if you don't finish 200 runs in 200 days.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Jgill] [ In reply to ]
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Jgill wrote:
Thanks. I thought the OP was trying to get interest in this "frequency challenge". After doing the last one, I was trying to figure out why I would do the same challenge X 2. You can sort the list like you said but I thought the whole point was to see if you could do 100 runs in 100 days. I was not a runner and had no idea if I could finish it. If I follow my current schedule, I would not finish 200 runs in 200 days although I might get the same total workload (plus the other sports). So I guess no interest in this challenge.

NO THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE 100/100 CHALLENGE IS TO MAXIMIZE MILEAGE IN A 3.5 MONTH TRAINING BLOCK


Sorry for shouting but I don't know how many times since 2006 I have had to drive it into people's thick heads that more run fitness comes from more milage not from frequency. Its simple...are you a 25 mile per week runner, a 50 mile guy, 75 mile guy, 100 mile guy, 125 mile guy. If someone runs 1000km in 100 days they will likely achieve better fitness than someone who does 500km even though the 1000km runner does it off say 65 runs versus the 500km runner doing it off 100 runs.

The entire point is to graduate to the robustness needed to move up to being a higher volume runner. Total volume pretty well trumps everything (within reason).

Frequency is just a means to get there. Real runners know this which is why they do a morning and evening workout 5 days per week and they do a long run one day of the weekend and take a day off. Real swimmers also do 2x per day. Its be the best way to get enough volume in. But the entire idea is to get volume in...the number of workouts is meaningless other than by default more workouts tends to result in more volume.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for shouting. I was a swimmer so I guess I had water in my ears. Haven't been doing triathlon for very long and just did your 100/100 for the first time last year. So to your point, wouldn't the aerobic point process of the Big Kahuna challenge be a better way of tracking the effort/volume than using the number of runs per day? I like getting someone to be motivated to do something each day, but you don't need this if you are watching TSS/ week or something similar (volume and intensity). I also didn't know you could sort the list different ways.
Guys, no need beating and old dead horse.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Jgill] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, that's why I am suggesting you sort the 100/100 list by distance (if you are a fast runner)....or time (if you do a lot of longer runs)....this way you see the aggregate load which is more meaningful. Frequency was just a means to get people out the door, but then a bunch of people are treating frequency like the end goal itself.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I continued running after 100/100 with the goal being a runstreak, so at least 1 mile a day. End of april I enrolled in the Oxford Covid trial. Had some side-effects (headache, feverish, muscle aches and felt like I just did a full IM), but kept the streak. In hindsight I shouldn't have done that and just take complete rest for a few days. In may my running was shit, but pushed on. In June it got a little better but towards the end of June it went to shambles. Didn't really recover in a recovery week, so added another recovery week, which didn't improve things either. Early July, on day 200 of my streak, I quit. My rest heart rate was pretty normal at the time, where it usually is when training quite a bit. A week later, after stopping exercising, it shot up and since then it has remained high, about 5-10 higher than normal on average. There have been a few days it was normal, but that only lasted for a few days. There also have been a few days it was exceptionally high, 15-20 beats higher than normal. Done about 5 runs since, longest being 2 miles. The last week it was going better again, but had a booster shot in the trial last week Thursday. No clear side-effects this time, but pretty fatigued Saturday and Sunday.
I have a tri weekend coming up in 2,5 weeks, where the aim was to do 7 sprint tris, but a slow 2 mile run last week left me stiff and with muscle aches the next day.
Doing the run streak was nice, but I decided to see how far it would go, I was hoping for a year, and then don't do it again. I found it hard to do a runstreak but train efficiently, the effort was much higher than the possible gains for that effort.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [TriStart] [ In reply to ]
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TriStart wrote:
I continued running after 100/100 with the goal being a runstreak, so at least 1 mile a day


I'm not a fan of the one-mile-per-day minimum for run streaks ... you just barely get through the part that sucks when you can say that you're done for the day, and don't get to experience that magic that comes further down the road

https://vitals.lifehacker.com/...it-go-1752457839/amp

That's why I prefer the 3 miles/30 minutes that the 100/100 requires, and use that as my benchmark as well

YMMV - literally

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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
Jgill wrote:
That was my point. My training schedule has me do a few long runs and I only get one run each time. So to do my training schedule and the run challenge, I would have to do more runs with the 1 hour separations.


You're still not getting it

3 miles is the minimum distance to count as a run, but not the ONLY distance you may run

Did the rules change? I always thought the minimum was 30 minutes?

I'd be in for 3 miles. Not in for 30 minutes.
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B.McMaster wrote:
Did the rules change? I always thought the minimum was 30 minutes?

I'd be in for 3 miles. Not in for 30 minutes.

It was changed to 3 miles OR 30 minutes with the 2019-2020 edition

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...nge_Thread_P7087515/

It also started/finished 2 weeks earlier than previous editions

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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
B.McMaster wrote:
Did the rules change? I always thought the minimum was 30 minutes?

I'd be in for 3 miles. Not in for 30 minutes.

It was changed to 3 miles OR 30 minutes with the 2019-2020 edition

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...nge_Thread_P7087515/

It also started/finished 2 weeks earlier than previous editions

I read that to mean over 2 days you had to total an hour so you couldn’t do 3 miles every day.
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B.McMaster wrote:
I read that to mean over 2 days you had to total an hour so you couldn’t do 3 miles every day.

That probably could have been worded a little clearer. But, the intent of rule 1 is that 3 miles is equivalent to 30 minutes. So, if you run 3 miles it counts as "a run"....regardless of the time. You can do that multiple times a day with a 60min break, and you can do that every day.

Rules 11 and 12 only apply if your run pace is slower than 10mpm such that you haven't run 3 miles in 30minutes. In that case you revert to the time based formula that you reference. There is no similar distance based exception....eg, 2 miles + 1 mile doesn't count. So, if you run 2mi in 15 minutes, you still need to makeup 15 minutes...not just the 1 mile.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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ST 100/100...Confusion over the rules....detailed responses....asking for modifications...complaints about the effort...Dev exasperated at us for not understanding the philosophy...WOW, are things really getting back to normal in 2020!!!
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [vonschnapps] [ In reply to ]
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vonschnapps wrote:
ST 100/100...Confusion over the rules....detailed responses....asking for modifications...complaints about the effort...Dev exasperated at us for not understanding the philosophy...WOW, are things really getting back to normal in 2020!!!

lmao. Yeah..I suppose.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Jgill] [ In reply to ]
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Several of us had this exact conversation at the start of last year's challenge.

I think you can make the 100/100 be whatever you want it to be---if your goal is a run focus. If someone's goal is a swim or bike focus....then the 100/100 is probably not a good idea. Sure the big K is another framework---that is somewhat similar. But, its not limited to running, and it runs all year....not, just 100 days.

Sure, there's the rulz....which is fine. But, its just a framework to encourage frequency---because, frequency is a safer way to add run volume vs. just running longer. I've only done the 100/100 twice, but I got wrapped up in the number of runs the first year. That was ok, because that's what I needed that first year. I came out of that challenge as a changed runner. I was (and am) bullet-proof on the run---I have two decades of prior run-injury proneness.

I proved that bullet-proof-ness over the last 3 months ramping from 30mpw to 90mpw in a matter of 4 weeks and holding that volume for the last two months. That was risky, and it was not without some need for planning, and management. But, man...I can just run and run and run....without much regard for anything.

Last year, my plan was to use it as a framework to fit my training plan into without compromising the plan---ie, splitting runs just for "credit". I was using it to get "extra" doubles in...but, only after doing the planned run for the day. I didn't split a 10 miler into 2 or 3 runs...as I don't think 3+3+4 is the same stimulus as 10. But, 10+4 is better than 10 (assuming you can recover and do the plan tomorrow). Sure you won't "win" the challenge that way (not as long as Bluestacks keeps playing). But, its a challenge, not a competition...anyway.

My goal for last year was to make doubles a regular part of my training, and get to an average of 60mpw. I didn't get there in the formal challenge for reasons discussed elsewhere. But, I did this summer....averaging 12 runs (2x M-F, 1x Sa and Su) and 90mpw.

So....do what you want....but, there's more than one way to approach the 100/100. As I said before, I'm as guilty as anyone of chasing the carrot. But, you can decide to chase a radish, if you choose.

:-)
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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Tom_hampton wrote:
vonschnapps wrote:
ST 100/100...Confusion over the rules....detailed responses....asking for modifications...complaints about the effort...Dev exasperated at us for not understanding the philosophy...WOW, are things really getting back to normal in 2020!!!


lmao. Yeah..I suppose.



hahahaha

I love normalcy-even if only in bits and pieces.....



carry on
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dtoce wrote:

hahahaha

I love normalcy-even if only in bits and pieces.....

carry on

Only in small doses. And I'm sure we will have more relapses than Liz Taylor had husbands.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
TriStart wrote:
I continued running after 100/100 with the goal being a runstreak, so at least 1 mile a day


I'm not a fan of the one-mile-per-day minimum for run streaks ... you just barely get through the part that sucks when you can say that you're done for the day, and don't get to experience that magic that comes further down the road

https://vitals.lifehacker.com/...it-go-1752457839/amp

That's why I prefer the 3 miles/30 minutes that the 100/100 requires, and use that as my benchmark as well

That's what I always did before, but this covid/year I've been doing a runstreak with my 9 year old son (today was 93!), and that 1 mile is great to keep him (and me) active and doing at least a little something every day. We'll usually work in a couple of 3 milers during the week and then a 5-6 on Saurday.

I've gained new respect for the 1-mile minimum.
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vonschnapps wrote:
ST 100/100...Confusion over the rules....detailed responses....asking for modifications...complaints about the effort...Dev exasperated at us for not understanding the philosophy...WOW, are things really getting back to normal in 2020!!!

Haha....now we need a discussion on what the bare minimum run is if you use Alpha Fly's and if Kipchoge has to do at least 2.5 x 3 miles in 30 minutes (roughly his half marathon pace) to qualify as a single run, or if we let him off the hook with a 12.5 minute 3 mile minimum run.

The even crazier thing in terms of getting back to normal is the Esprit Full and Half IM on the Formula 1 track in Montreal is on in 2.5 weeks. It's almost feeling "like normal" haha.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev, is there a targeted start date set for 100/100 2020? This way those of us ST'ers who want to do a 200/200 can start exactly 100 Days prior.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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BT_DreamChaser wrote:
Dev, is there a targeted start date set for 100/100 2020? This way those of us ST'ers who want to do a 200/200 can start exactly 100 Days prior.

Is there going to be a separate "Airing of Grievances" for the 200/200? Or does this thread count as one?

Gotta follow protocol and everything, right?

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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RandMart wrote:
BT_DreamChaser wrote:
Dev, is there a targeted start date set for 100/100 2020? This way those of us ST'ers who want to do a 200/200 can start exactly 100 Days prior.


Is there going to be a separate "Airing of Grievances" for the 200/200? Or does this thread count as one?

Gotta follow protocol and everything, right?

My feet are already tired from running all damn summer....WAAAAAAAAaaaaaa!!!!!
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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I said "Airing of Grievances" not "Cry Like a Little Biatch"

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
BT_DreamChaser wrote:
Dev, is there a targeted start date set for 100/100 2020? This way those of us ST'ers who want to do a 200/200 can start exactly 100 Days prior.


Is there going to be a separate "Airing of Grievances" for the 200/200? Or does this thread count as one?

Gotta follow protocol and everything, right?

Well, apparently this thread has turned into grievances for the 100/100 in general. Surprise/ Surprise. But once we get a start date on the 2020 100/100 and choose an appropriate start date for the 200/200 ... yeah, then we can whine, cry, air grievances, and maybe try to say some positive things and motivate one another. The goal is to end this diarrhea blizzard shit-storm of a year on a positive note and go into 2021 stronger/ faster/ leaner than ever!! :-) Hence, the 200/200.
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BT_DreamChaser wrote:
Surprise/ Surprise

Good form, there

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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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potato potahtoe
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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Good point

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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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Tom_hampton wrote:
potato potahtoe

edited for you:

potato/potahtoe
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [dtoce] [ In reply to ]
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dtoce wrote:
Tom_hampton wrote:
potato potahtoe


edited for you:

po-tay-to/po-tah-to

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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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Only on ST, do you get multiple layers of FIFY on a smart-assed remark.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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My grievance is that I can barely get a 1 hrs swim slot for the next 100 days of wanting to do an Ironman length swim per day due to pool time limitation. So I have to settle for roughly 2500-3000m per day depending on what time out of my 1 hrs slot I actually get into the water after the convoluted check in process. I am kind of hoping to swim 400km more before end of year before getting too focused on running again. My grievance is that my training log almost looks like a triathlete again....my annual hours of run and bike are identical and swimming is barely 60% of those two!!! OK a real triathlete's training log would be 80% biking indoors to ensure bike handling is as bad as possible coming out ot T1 on race day, 25% running on spring board shoes on Woodway treadmill with every electronic gadget and internet connection possible wearing compression shorts and obligatory Mdot clothing and taking selfies to put on instagram after leaving treadmill running at 9 mph for 30 min before they get on it so the numbers look better, and 5% swim with floaty shorts a pull buoy and paddles and a snorkel wearing electronics on the wrist the size of an iPad and spending more time pressing buttons at the end of each length than actually swimming (did I cover it all off yet????) !
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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HEY! You leave floatie pants out of this!!
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone want to offer a START DATE? We can start this Monday August 31st and if the official 100/100 starts on Monday/ Nov 30th that'll put us at day 91. Or we can let everyone settle into school routine and start Monday Sept 7th...
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
a real triathlete's training log would be 80% biking indoors to ensure bike handling is as bad as possible coming out ot T1 on race day

I read/heard someplace that every time you ride indoors but do NOT post on social medial, God creates another armadillo

https://www.instagram.com/...gs/onelessarmadillo/

https://twitter.com/...&src=typed_query

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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Living on a country road in Texas....that explains a lot. For gods sake (or at least mine) people....stop riding indoors!!! If he's going to be making so many new armadillos...would it be too much to ask that he tweak their instincts a little bit to STAY OFF THE ROAD!!!
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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BT_DreamChaser wrote:
Anyone want to offer a START DATE? We can start this Monday August 31st and if the official 100/100 starts on Monday/ Nov 30th that'll put us at day 91. Or we can let everyone settle into school routine and start Monday Sept 7th...

I dunno

My own Endless Summer 100/100 concludes on Labor Day

Do I want to go right into another one; actually, two? Or do I take the Fall off, and just do 'regular' 100/100 starting whenever?

I'll have to ponder that some more, but don't let my indecisiveness hold anyone up

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
BT_DreamChaser wrote:
Anyone want to offer a START DATE? We can start this Monday August 31st and if the official 100/100 starts on Monday/ Nov 30th that'll put us at day 91. Or we can let everyone settle into school routine and start Monday Sept 7th...


I dunno

My own Endless Summer 100/100 concludes on Labor Day

Do I want to go right into another one; actually, two? Or do I take the Fall off, and just do 'regular' 100/100 starting whenever?

I'll have to ponder that some more, but don't let my indecisiveness hold anyone up

After some thought (some but not much) I think I'll suggest we all do our own personal start date. I'm going to start this Sunday the 30th. So Day 92 will be the start of the Official 100/100 IF it starts on Nov 30th...

Please feel free to pick your own Start Date and post in this thread when you're starting and give a quick weekly update every Sunday or Monday. Or whenever. Since this is "unofficial" there are no rules either. Ha!

So Randy, you can do whatever you feel is best for you.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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You can top us all and start on Labor Day and do the 300/300 !!!
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Oh, man ... now that's playing rough

I mean, I could go 90/100, say, then back off a little and go for 70/100 on the next 'leg' then ramp back up again for the final 'leg' being the 'regular' 100/100?

Following that logic, who's to say we're not ALL doing 365/365 every year, Jan 1 through Dec 31? We're just not labeling it as such [nor making up silly bibs]

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sure we will have more relapses than Liz Taylor had husbands.

You are old, aren't you?

No coasting in running and no crying in baseball
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Tri3] [ In reply to ]
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Tri3 wrote:
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I'm sure we will have more relapses than Liz Taylor had husbands.


You are old, aren't you?

I guess I am, too



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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Tri3] [ In reply to ]
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Tri3 wrote:
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I'm sure we will have more relapses than Liz Taylor had husbands.


You are old, aren't you?


I'm not as old as Dale (I don't know about Randy). And....I'm not dead---the alternative to older.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not dead---the alternative to older

Yep, that's what I keep telling myself.

No coasting in running and no crying in baseball
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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Tri3 wrote:
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I'm sure we will have more relapses than Liz Taylor had husbands.


You are old, aren't you?


I'm not as old as Dale (I don't know about Randy)

Four dozen and something, let's just say

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [vonschnapps] [ In reply to ]
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ST 100/100...Confusion over the rules....detailed responses....asking for modifications...complaints about the effort...Dev exasperated at us for not understanding the philosophy...WOW, are things really getting back to normal in 2020!!!

Haha I don’t think I have opened a 100/100 thread in five years and the thread is exactly the same.

Bill Murray would be proud.

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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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CaptainCanada wrote:
vonschnapps wrote:
ST 100/100...Confusion over the rules....detailed responses....asking for modifications...complaints about the effort...Dev exasperated at us for not understanding the philosophy...WOW, are things really getting back to normal in 2020!!!


Haha I don’t think I have opened a 100/100 thread in five years and the thread is exactly the same.

Bill Murray would be proud.

The only thing missing is you did not submit the 100/100 prep training plan, or did Kosmo Kramer not approve its release?
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
BT_DreamChaser wrote:
Anyone want to offer a START DATE? We can start this
Monday August 31st and if the official 100/100 starts on Monday/ Nov 30th that'll put us at day 91. Or we can let everyone settle into school routine and start Monday Sept 7th...


I dunno

My own Endless Summer 100/100 concludes on Labor Day


With a little trot this morning, I finished with 101 Runs on 109 Days [93%] for 376 miles; my longest run was the Joe Strummer Memorial 10K on August 21 - 54:42

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEJ3htfHgJp/

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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rrheisler wrote:
We are tentatively moving forward the start date of 100/100. And we're progressing toward having some build-up programs available for people to ramp into 100/100, along with some other interesting stuff.

We're starting November 1, right? That held the lead for a while in the poll over there >

That's just a few weeks away, so we gotta get the Airing of Grievances up here & other essential protocols in place

Just an FYI

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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The whole wildfire situation out at ST HQ has stuff moving around a bit.

I am 90% certain we're tracking towards November 1st. But let me connect with Dan and report back.

This also means I need to run today so I can actually, you know, attempt this thing for a change.

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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Starting Nov 1st gives me 45 less days in the snow. I may try this. I did it 5 or 6x in a row then stopped the last 2 years

I may add a twist to mine and try 1lb per 10 days or 10lbs for the 100 days.

I spoke to my running buddy (3 year old blue eyed Rotti) and she's down. Except the weight part.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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marcag wrote:


I may add a twist to mine and try 1lb per 10 days or 10lbs for the 100 days.

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Adding or subtracting?
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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By my calculations, with ST 100/100 starting 11/15/2020, that will run until 2/22/2021

Adding another 100 days brings us to 6/2/2021, which would dovetail into the 2021 Endless Summer 100/100 beginning on Memorial Day

Adding them all together, we'd have 300/300[-ish] from 11/15/2020 to Labor Day 2021

Purely hypothetically, of course, as someone would have to be a complete idiot to go for that

#i_AM_thatidiot

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
By my calculations, with ST 100/100 starting 11/15/2020, that will run until 2/22/2021

Adding another 100 days brings us to 6/2/2021, which would dovetail into the 2021 Endless Summer 100/100 beginning on Memorial Day

Adding them all together, we'd have 300/300[-ish] from 11/15/2020 to Labor Day 2021

Purely hypothetically, of course, as someone would have to be a complete idiot to go for that

#i_AM_thatidiot

That's just called #IRunNearlyEveryDamnDayAnyway ... I'm currently at 286 runs in 293 days for 2020 (starting 1 Jan). That includes a brief respite in Feb and March (and much of May) for a minor surgical procedure.

#ApparentlyIAmToo
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Hey, you nutters, if you want a 200/200 or 300/300 or 1000/1000 challenge you have but to

1) ask
2) agree on a date range and other parameters

I'm guess a sucker for batshitcrazytude.

-Eric
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Eric, but I don't know if we need that sort of documentation - not me, anyway

It's bad enough that my therapist will ask to see the spreadsheet I keep on my phone from time to time and ask "You're not overdoing it a little, are you?"

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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RandMart wrote:
Thanks Eric, but I don't know if we need that sort of documentation - not me, anyway

It's bad enough that my therapist will ask to see the spreadsheet I keep on my phone from time to time and ask "You're not overdoing it a little, are you?"

That's your fault for keeping the spreadsheet on your phone.
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Re: ST 100/100 Run Challenge 2020 edition = 200/200? [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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Tom_hampton wrote:
RandMart wrote:
Thanks Eric, but I don't know if we need that sort of documentation - not me, anyway

It's bad enough that my therapist will ask to see the spreadsheet I keep on my phone from time to time and ask "You're not overdoing it a little, are you?"


That's your fault for keeping the spreadsheet on your phone.

You don't think I keep only one set of books, do you? I'm from Jersey!!!

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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