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Here’s the utility uniform for space force.

In woodland cammo.

For space. https://www.google.ca/...uniforms%3f_amp=true[/url]

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?

Long Chile was a silly place.
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"Last weekend, the Washington National Cathedral blessed the Bible that will be used to swear in all future commanders of the military branch. The Rev. Randolph “Randy” Hollerith blessed the Bible as U.S. Air Force chief of chaplains, Maj. Gen. Steven Schaick, held it."


What happens if a future squadron commander says they don't want to put their hand on the Bible at their change of command ceremony?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/space-force-offers-first-look-at-service-uniforms

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Re: Space Force uniforms [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?
It's silly, but sort of like buying a pickup truck and then wearing flannel shirts and sporting a designer stubble when you drive your truck.

"Human existence is based upon two pillars: Compassion and knowledge. Compassion without knowledge is ineffective; Knowledge without compassion is inhuman." Victor Weisskopf.
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Re: Space Force uniforms [Alvin Tostig] [ In reply to ]
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BCtriguy1 wrote:
Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?
It's silly, but sort of like buying a pickup truck and then wearing flannel shirts and sporting a designer stubble when you drive your truck.

I drive a pick up, occasionally wear flannel shirts, and sport year round stubble. I use the truck for work, however. My Carhartts actually get dirty.

Long Chile was a silly place.
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Re: Space Force uniforms [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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BCtriguy1 wrote:
Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?

I'm thinking that they got a price break by using a camo pattern from one of the other services. Otherwise a starry night pattern might work. But, if that isn't the case - then yeah, that's kind of silly.
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Re: Space Force uniforms [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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Well, the Navy wears camouflage now, and that's pretty silly for about 99% of the force.

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Re: Space Force uniforms [rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]
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rick_pcfl wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?


I'm thinking that they got a price break by using a camo pattern from one of the other services. Otherwise a starry night pattern might work. But, if that isn't the case - then yeah, that's kind of silly.

I hear the Army has a few old patterns for sale. They seem to change every few years. Space force could probably get a good deal.

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Re: Space Force uniforms [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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BCtriguy1 wrote:
Alvin Tostig wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?

It's silly, but sort of like buying a pickup truck and then wearing flannel shirts and sporting a designer stubble when you drive your truck.


I drive a pick up, occasionally wear flannel shirts, and sport year round stubble. I use the truck for work, however. My Carhartts actually get dirty.
I should have added.............

".....when all you do with your pickup truck is drive it to Walmart for a loaf of bread and then take your kids to drop them off at school/ballet/soccer practice."

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Re: Space Force uniforms [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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Dumb. Trump Orange is a better choice.




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Re: Space Force uniforms [WelshinPhilly] [ In reply to ]
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Of course you need appropriate foot wear in space.



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Re: Space Force uniforms [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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BCtriguy1 wrote:
Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?

Dude. You tell me you don't want camo when you're taking on the Hish-qu-Ten on Yautja Prime after a drop ship assault.
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Re: Space Force uniforms [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Just need a set of coveralls with 'Pur n Cleen' logo and GTG for space combat.

Steve
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Re: Space Force uniforms [Steve Hawley] [ In reply to ]
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Steve Hawley wrote:
Just need a set of coveralls with 'Pur n Cleen' logo and GTG for space combat.


You've gone merc.
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Re: Space Force uniforms [rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]
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rick_pcfl wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?

I'm thinking that they got a price break by using a camo pattern from one of the other services. Otherwise a starry night pattern might work. But, if that isn't the case - then yeah, that's kind of silly.

It's part of the department of the air force.

Also arguendo most of their personnel will be ground based for the near future
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Re: Space Force uniforms [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Just haulin ice brother

Steve
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Re: Space Force uniforms [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
rick_pcfl wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?


I'm thinking that they got a price break by using a camo pattern from one of the other services. Otherwise a starry night pattern might work. But, if that isn't the case - then yeah, that's kind of silly.


It's part of the department of the air force.

Also arguendo most of their personnel will be ground based for the near future
We should adopt the Canadian model and go with a single amalgamated armed force. Think of the savings!

"Human existence is based upon two pillars: Compassion and knowledge. Compassion without knowledge is ineffective; Knowledge without compassion is inhuman." Victor Weisskopf.
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Re: Space Force uniforms [Alvin Tostig] [ In reply to ]
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yeah what we really need to do is emulate the Canadian military



Steve
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Re: Space Force uniforms [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
rick_pcfl wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?


I'm thinking that they got a price break by using a camo pattern from one of the other services. Otherwise a starry night pattern might work. But, if that isn't the case - then yeah, that's kind of silly.


It's part of the department of the air force.

Also arguendo most of their personnel will be ground based for the near future

Wait, what? By "ground based" you must mean ground bases on the moon and mars, right? Otherwise, all our bases are belong to China.
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Re: Space Force uniforms [Alvin Tostig] [ In reply to ]
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Alvin Tostig wrote:
windywave wrote:
rick_pcfl wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?


I'm thinking that they got a price break by using a camo pattern from one of the other services. Otherwise a starry night pattern might work. But, if that isn't the case - then yeah, that's kind of silly.


It's part of the department of the air force.

Also arguendo most of their personnel will be ground based for the near future
We should adopt the Canadian model and go with a single amalgamated armed force. Think of the savings!

Incorporate all of my criticism and mean comments about the Canadian "armed forces," as if contained herein.
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Re: Space Force uniforms [Steve Hawley] [ In reply to ]
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Steve Hawley wrote:
yeah what we really need to do is emulate the Canadian military

But everyone in the US Armed Forces would be able to grow a beard.

To go with their cool looking camo fatigues.

"Human existence is based upon two pillars: Compassion and knowledge. Compassion without knowledge is ineffective; Knowledge without compassion is inhuman." Victor Weisskopf.
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Re: Space Force uniforms [Alvin Tostig] [ In reply to ]
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Alvin Tostig wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?
It's silly, but sort of like buying a pickup truck and then wearing flannel shirts and sporting a designer stubble when you drive your truck.

One of my best friends neighbors, who was born in Texas but moved away as a child, adopted a Texas persona a few years ago. Bought the big pick up truck, wears a cowboy hat, etc

He’s an engineer living in suburbia on the east coast and... Asian.
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schroeder wrote:
windywave wrote:
rick_pcfl wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?


I'm thinking that they got a price break by using a camo pattern from one of the other services. Otherwise a starry night pattern might work. But, if that isn't the case - then yeah, that's kind of silly.


It's part of the department of the air force.

Also arguendo most of their personnel will be ground based for the near future

Wait, what? By "ground based" you must mean ground bases on the moon and mars, right? Otherwise, all our bases are belong to China.

Poor execution...deduct 3 points
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Re: Space Force uniforms [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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I think green, brown, coyote and black camouflage in space is sort of goofy. The Navy digi cam is one of the best fabrics /color ever invented. The Navy is famous for oil, hydraulic fluid and greasy stains that are impossible to get out of uniforms. Why they ever choose white as a prime uniform color is beyond my thinking. The new digi cam color of theirs is like magic for camouflaging stains. I have some Navy digi cam utility waterman shorts from Birdwell that are the bestest ever for the river, the beach, workin on bikes and dirty jobs around the yard. You won't hear me talking bad about the Navy choice in color.
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Cowards


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Re: Space Force uniforms [ThisIsIt] [ In reply to ]
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ThisIsIt wrote:
Alvin Tostig wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
Does anyone else find the idea of a camo uniform for a space force kind of silly?

It's silly, but sort of like buying a pickup truck and then wearing flannel shirts and sporting a designer stubble when you drive your truck.


One of my best friends neighbors, who was born in Texas but moved away as a child, adopted a Texas persona a few years ago. Bought the big pick up truck, wears a cowboy hat, etc

He’s an engineer living in suburbia on the east coast and... Asian.

One of my squadron commanders gave a talk one time where he discussed his thoughts on what sort of person would serve in the military. One type was the "enjoys playing cowboys and Indians" person. There was probably at least some of that personality in everyone. The uniform was part of the "dress up" aspect that made you feel unique. Throw in all the different uniforms and you could be even more "special", whether it was the patches on your flight suit, your headgear, your footwear, or the rows of ribbons on your blouse.

And you never know. Someone in Space Force, sitting at their keyboard in an office on a Space Force base in Colorado Springs, might find a reason for why they need to wear camo fatigues.

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Alvin Tostig wrote:
. The uniform was part of the "dress up" aspect that made you feel unique. Throw in all the different uniforms and you could be even more "special", whether it was the patches on your flight suit, your headgear, your footwear, or the rows of ribbons on your blouse.


Now it's different, though. Everyone is starting to look the same, except on special occasions. You have to know what you're looking for to see the differences. Even Generals spend most of their days in "casual camo." (at least on the bases where I work). I get annoyed at my civilian workmates for not being able to quickly read a uniform and see that a Major General is mixed in with all the Lieutenants.

I even see it with aviators. For whatever reason they seem to like to spend all day in flight suits, even when they're not flying that day. Just more comfy and easier to manage?
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I even see it with aviators. For whatever reason they seem to like to spend all day in flight suits, even when they're not flying that day. Just more comfy and easier to manage?


5% comfort
5% ease of management
90% "look at me, I'm a pilot"

Not that I blame them - they're rightfully proud of being the tip of the spear.
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I get the chuckles, it is funny. But the uniforms make sense. The space force isn’t working in space, they’re running systems and platforms in space from offices and watchfloors in regular buildings. Over the past decades, we’ve blown up the number of different utility uniforms across the services, at great expense. This way, they use a pre-existing uniform so we don’t waste any additional taxpayer dollars on something new.

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This way, they use a pre-existing uniform so we don’t waste any additional taxpayer dollars on something new.


They are definitely saving money on something new, by creating an entirely new branch of the services. So yes, nothing new here.
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slowguy wrote:
I get the chuckles, it is funny. But the uniforms make sense. The space force isn’t working in space, they’re running systems and platforms in space from offices and watchfloors in regular buildings. Over the past decades, we’ve blown up the number of different utility uniforms across the services, at great expense. This way, they use a pre-existing uniform so we don’t waste any additional taxpayer dollars on something new.


Yep.

There was a push by some in Congress to have a common camouflage uniform across the services after the giant waste of money the Army’s ACU to be replaced by OCP/Multi Cam in less than a decade and the Navy’s jelly-doughnut stain hiding blueberry “camo” working uniform. (Not sure why my sister service thought it would be a good idea to blend in with the sea on a boat... seems like a bad idea in a man overboard accident.)

And BLeP, that ain’t woodland, it’s OCP or Multi Cam. Marines wear woodland. Everyone in the service wore the old woodland in the 80’s and 90’s.

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Do the buildings they are working in have an abundance of foliage?

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Do the buildings they are working in have an abundance of foliage?

Like I said, it’s using an existing uniform instead of coming up with something new.

Don’t get me wrong, I think the general move for everyone to wear camouflage in office environments is stupid.

There was no need for the Navy to go to camouflage utilities, except that they wanted to be closer to the other services. At one point, between the 4 services, we had upwards of 13 different camouflage patterns. The Marines were dicks about their patterns and wouldn’t let the Navy use them for a new Navy uniform. Air Force decided they needed something new. Army seems to do a new pattern every few years whether they need it or not. The Navy actually went with three new patterns. The blue was one pattern. Then we had greens and browns, both different patterns, and different materials, and even a different cut of uniform that only special forces or people working in the Middle East were allowed to wear. Then we got rid of the blue ones, and now we all wear green camouflage, which is comfortable, but also stupid.

The mess we’ve made on military uniforms over the past decade or so has been an embarrassing waste.

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None of this shocks me. But I find it all hilarious.

“You can’t use our pattern!!!” You navy boys would bring their pattern into disrepute. You know, because people can tell the difference between cammo patterns...

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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eb wrote:
trail wrote:
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I even see it with aviators. For whatever reason they seem to like to spend all day in flight suits, even when they're not flying that day. Just more comfy and easier to manage?


5% comfort
5% ease of management
90% "look at me, I'm a pilot"

Not that I blame them - they're rightfully prood of being the tip of the spear.
Some truth in all of this. A big deal for me was that flight suits, flight jackets (one for summer, one for winter, and later they gave us a leather jacket), black wool socks, flight boots, and even the long underwear that we'd wear in cold weather were all issued, free of charge. We had to pay for our "blue" uniforms. During the Reagan years, they gave us five flight suits. (We were only issued two flight suits in the late 70's, and I could sit on a dime and tell you if it was heads or tails because both of them had gotten so threadbare.) Once all of the Reagan money poured in, if you said one of your flight suits, jackets, or pair of boots had worn out, they gave you a replacement and you could keep the one(s) that was/were "worn out". (Handy for changing the oil in your car, etc.) So you always had at least a couple of flight suits that had been washed, and they didn't require any sort of special laundry/dry cleaning/starch/etc. And I've still got them, along with the jackets, socks, boots, and long underwear.

In a flying squadron, we wore flight suits just about 100 percent of the time. You might only be on the flying schedule a couple of times during the week, but we'd wear them for flying, meetings, giving briefings, going to the gym, you name it.

But when I went to Fighter Weapons School, they'd had a few flying accidents in the 57th Wing. Their commander made the instructors wear their "blues" unless they were flying. Talk about guys feeling like they were being whipped and beaten.

When I was on the USAFE staff at Ramstein, we wore blues most of the time, but on Fridays the aircrew would wear flight suits and everyone else would wear fatigues. (This was in the mid-80's before BDU's came along.) Then, one of the generals thought it would be a good idea to have everyone wear fatigues on Friday. Almost none of the aircrew owned a set of fatigues, or if they did they were a set they'd worn 10+ years ago during some level of basic training. The first Friday with everyone in fatigues was a clown show. Shirts and pants that were too small, rank and other items sewn on incorrectly, hats that didn't fit, wrong belts and belt buckles, you name it. It took a few weeks before everyone got their fatigues sorted out, by which time the general gave up and he let the aircrew go back to flight suits.

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Re: Space Force uniforms [Alvin Tostig] [ In reply to ]
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You (and spot and maybe a few others) are hereby excepted from my crass generalization. ;^>
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Re: Space Force uniforms [Alvin Tostig] [ In reply to ]
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What happens if a future squadron commander says they don't want to put their hand on the Bible at their change of command ceremony?


If Congress can be sworn in using a dozen+ books, then I assume that the military can similarly adapt 😉

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Re: Space Force uniforms [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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I was very disappointed that they did not go with the "Space Pants" pattern.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwpmqMnngRk

About 1 minute in...
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Do the buildings they are working in have an abundance of foliage?


They need something like this for that setting.


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Personally I was hoping for this...



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Re: Space Force uniforms [Alvin Tostig] [ In reply to ]
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I was thinking plain coyote grey would be the working dress but sure go with Camo and blend in...

They need an official branch song so I say carry on the proud tradition of Canada's contribution to space....




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It shall be this



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I am leaning towards the 7 of 9 look. : )




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NormM wrote:
I am leaning towards the 7 of 9 look. : )

Unless they tighten up the physical fitness standards I don't think I want to see that...
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Logo announced!




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Re: Space Force uniforms [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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That looks... familiar.



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Logo announced!

Wait - isn't it MMXX now?

Otherwise everything is fine, right? How much did some ad agency get paid for this?
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Re: Space Force uniforms [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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to be fair, the new satellite seems more potent
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Thirty years from now when you're sitting by your fireside with your grandson on your knee and he asks, "What did you do in the great War?" Will you have to cough and say.

"Well, I was a member of the Space Force."

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eb wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
Logo announced!


Wait - isn't it MMXX now?

Otherwise everything is fine, right? How much did some ad agency get paid for this?

I hope there are some tapes or transcripts of both the design meetings and the approval meetings.

"So, we're just going to take the Starfleet logo and tweak it a bit."

"Sounds good to me, lets call it a day."
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G-man wrote:
I think green, brown, coyote and black camouflage in space is sort of goofy. The Navy digi cam is one of the best fabrics /color ever invented. The Navy is famous for oil, hydraulic fluid and greasy stains that are impossible to get out of uniforms. Why they ever choose white as a prime uniform color is beyond my thinking. The new digi cam color of theirs is like magic for camouflaging stains. I have some Navy digi cam utility waterman shorts from Birdwell that are the bestest ever for the river, the beach, workin on bikes and dirty jobs around the yard. You won't hear me talking bad about the Navy choice in color.

The white uniforms are traditional, from when ships were powered by wind and not steam, turbines and nuclear reactors. Seeing a ship entering port with the crew manning the rails in white uniforms is why it lasted so long, it is a powerful image.

The Navy blue digi-cam has been abandoned as yet another uniform change has been enforced. The latest uniform is the green/tan/black computer generated camo that the Marines and Army have at least partially adopted.
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Wrong team, dude. I'm pretty sure we're the badies:



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