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Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley
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Never have been as happy with a second place as I was on Saturday. I went into the race stating that my plan was to swim with Ryf, bike with Ryf and then try to out run her. It went to plan until the last few miles of the run where she showed her amazing fitness and just the pure habit of winning. It was an honor to race with her and to be pushed and push her throughout the day.

I will do my best to answer any questions you many have. I will say at the beginning here I did not have any source of power on the bike during this race so I have no idea. Looking forward to being a more active member of SlowTwitch here. I apologize in advance for my newbie mistakes here!

Ask away friends!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Such an amazing race, congratulations!!

Do you train with power and just race by feel? And adding to that, do you do any "feel" based workouts to really get a grip on how raceday should go down?

Too old to go pro but doing it anyway
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe I'll get the not so fun question out of the way.


How did the "pass" go down? Did you try and go with her, did you have nothing left, did you just put blinders on?

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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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First off congratulations on an amazing race. I was rooting for you as I'm sure others here were!

1. What does your typical week look like, as far as training?
2. What is your bike setup? Have you had any wind tunnel testing?
3. Go-to post workout meal?
4. How will you focus your training for Kona, assuming you're going?

the world's still turning? >>>>>>> the world's still turning
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Congratulations on a great race and breaking through as a contender!

Did Ryf say anything to you during the race? What did she say afterwards?

What are your long term goals as a pro?

Favorite quote?

Scott
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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When she passed you on the run did you try to pickup to run with her or did you decide to protect 2nd place and keep going at your pace?

Awesome race I loved watching it online!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Great race Jocelyn, I would routing for you!!

What would be the top 3 things you would give an age grouper in terms of advice?

Good luck the rest of the year.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Since you had no power (I donā€™t mean it that way ;)...did you race by HR or feel or both?
Congrats on a great racešŸ„ˆ!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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No questions, just wanted to express my congratulations on such a well executed race. You made it seriously exciting watching the live coverage! Glad to hear you will be around ST, we need more voices like yours around here.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Allow me to say thank you for replying to my thread about how well will Daniela Ryf do:

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/..._string=ryf#p6911191

You gained another fan here!

Thanks!


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Once, I was fast. But I got over it.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [MrRabbit] [ In reply to ]
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MrRabbit wrote:
Such an amazing race, congratulations!!

Do you train with power and just race by feel? And adding to that, do you do any "feel" based workouts to really get a grip on how raceday should go down?

I generally train with power and heart rate and notice perceived exertion. The last 3 years I've only raced on HR, I may start to race on power again but am waiting for Rotor to come out with their spider based PM to have power back on my racing bike.

Personally there is an emotional component to seeing power and HR and how they are or aren't lining up on the day. I can handle that emotionally during training but in a race when emotions are already at the limit I don't want to throw in a "oh shoot my HR is 4 beats higher then it should be with this power" and then start thinking, "well maybe today won't end up going well."

Leading into this race I did a couple bikes without power not out of choice and found my self smashed more after those then others. Wrote a post leading up to the race about power etc:

"11. Data is both motivating as well as a governor on what you think is possible. There are times when we need to have metrics and markers and times when we need to let go of what we THINK is possible and blow that out of the water by not looking at data and reigning ourselves in because ā€œthose watts are too high,ā€ or ā€œthat pace is too fast.ā€
I think this is something Iā€™m still learning about and playing with. This build to IMTX Iā€™ve had a couple of sessions without power or pace for various reasons and I felt more smashed after those then when Iā€™ve had data. We need to make sure data is our slave not the other way around. "
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Jocelyn!

Congratulations on a truly well-executed race plan - I only had access to the Ironman Tracker and getting those splits was thrilling! I was sharing your position with coworkers (most with no knowledge of triathlon) and they were excited for you too - they kept asking me "Is she still winning??" from across the room.

Did you have any awareness of Ryf pulling you in on the run? It felt like it happened pretty fast without a ton of time for reaction for you. Or, did you know and did you try to react?

Truly looking forward to Kona and your future racing!!

KJ
Swim and Triathlon Coach
AllTerrainEndurance.com
KJ@allterrainendurance.com
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Congratulations! Great race :)

How do you like the Morf bars? What drove you to originally try them out?
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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What is your race day nutrition?
Your race was very impressive. Fun to follow as you pushed Ryf through a long day.

Team Zoot So Cal
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Congrats! what a day you had!! It ever slip into your head that you had her?
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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B_Doughtie wrote:
Maybe I'll get the not so fun question out of the way.


How did the "pass" go down? Did you try and go with her, did you have nothing left, did you just put blinders on?

Ha! Ripping the bandaid! I actually stay about 1-1.5 miles away from where the pass went down and will be doing my Kona prep here so it'll be great motivation to run by that spot on all my runs :)

I got pretty stinking dehydrated on the BIKE and was really feeling it that last loop of the run. I picked it up a few steps but there was no staying with her. I have passed out at this race before and had that weighing on the back of my mind. You'd think I'd know where that limit is, but during a race I think that part of my brain is shut off. I also don't have much experience in racing head to head which was part of the reason to race here. Learned some, got some motivation, and moving forward to figure out how to not have that happen again. :)
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Your bike fit is one of the best I have seen on the women's side of things. You looked really aero, which I first noticed when I saw pictures of you racing in New Zealand. How has your fit changed from when you started? How hard was it to get used to riding with your hands up? You raced an awesome race and I was so hoping you would pull off the win. Congrats on 2nd.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Callin'] [ In reply to ]
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Callin' wrote:
First off congratulations on an amazing race. I was rooting for you as I'm sure others here were!

1. What does your typical week look like, as far as training?
2. What is your bike setup? Have you had any wind tunnel testing?
3. Go-to post workout meal?
4. How will you focus your training for Kona, assuming you're going?

Thanks! and Thanks for the cheers!

1. I do some swimming, biking, and running ;) Generally I S,B,R most days. My training has changed up a ton since December when I hired a new coach (Bevan McKinnon of Fitter out of NZ). If I had to say a "normal" week it would be Monday- Hard swim, hard bike (hill reps, threshold set etc), and hard run (1k+ reps), T-recovery all three or maybe still hard swim, W-Hard swim, hard bike (sweet spot, low cadence strength), short FAST run efforts, T- recovery of all three, F- S, Long ride, short brick, Sat- swim, Long run, recovery ride, Sun- Day of REST- Nothing triathlon every Sunday. Avg around 25 hours/week
2. QR PR6, Rotor Aldhu cranks 155, MorfTech aerobars, Oversized pulley, 54/42 front and 11/28 back, 1 bottle on frame-1 aero-1 rear cage. Let me know if you have more specifics about this. I have done testing with Jim from ERO in California and plan to do some more this summer before Kona as I feel there are areas we can still improve!
3. In the summer, smoothie with F2C VEGAN protein powder, banana, and cashew milk.
In the winter- warm apple sauce with the protein and half a banana cut up.
Post race- whatever I can lay my hands on! (That is also gluten and dairy free)
4. I will be doing my main 2 weeks in The Woodlands, TX (where IMTX is). This is where I have done my build each time. In terms of training, I'm sure it will look similar to what we've done for IMNZ and IMTX. I think we need to increase my bike power a bit more and will work on that this summer. Honestly, this is why I hire a coach, I can outsource my thinking capacity about training! I'm an executer, tell me what to do and I'll just go do it.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [GreatScott] [ In reply to ]
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GreatScott wrote:
Congratulations on a great race and breaking through as a contender!

Did Ryf say anything to you during the race? What did she say afterwards?

What are your long term goals as a pro?

Favorite quote?

Scott

Thanks! It's fun to be able to express the fitness I have!

She didn't say anything during the race. When I passed her on the bike I said "come on Daniela." This is who I am as a competitor, I would want something said to me so I say it to my competitors, it's not me trying to play any mind game etc. At the awards she said in her speech, "sorry, Rinny has done that to me so I know how it feels! I didn't want to say anything when I passed you because I thought anything I said would be taken as "she's a b$^%&" She said congrats and that I pushed her that whole race. Very nice woman and look forward to racing her again. Much respect for her!

long term goals- This is going to sound corny... Become the best athlete I can be against the best in the world. I don't know what that will be which is fun and exciting!

Oh favorite quote changes quiet often, follow me on Insta and you'll see way to much pensiveness (look back at the 12 days before IMTX for an example) Currently though:

"We stand at the crossroads, each minute, each hour, each day, making choices. We choose the thoughts we allow ourselves to think, the passions we allow ourselves to feel, and the actions we allow ourselves to perform. Each choice is made in the context of whatever value system we have selected to govern our lives. In selecting that value system, we are, in a very real way, making the most important choice we will ever make."
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [trm08b] [ In reply to ]
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trm08b wrote:
When she passed you on the run did you try to pickup to run with her or did you decide to protect 2nd place and keep going at your pace?

Awesome race I loved watching it online!

Kind of answered previously- I tried for a couple steps but kept thinking about passing out on this course in 2016. I look forward to a head to head again. I just don't have a lot of experience in head to head racing. Maybe I'll find a couple run races this summer to just grab a bit more experience.

Thanks for following it!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [climonge] [ In reply to ]
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climonge wrote:
Great race Jocelyn, I would routing for you!!

What would be the top 3 things you would give an age grouper in terms of advice?

Good luck the rest of the year.

Thanks!

1. Enjoy the journey, that's why you are doing this! You enjoy it! So make sure you are acting that way and if you stop enjoying it, find something else to do!
2. Get a coach and actually do what they say and how they say it. There are so many good ones out there.
3. Stop making excuses, extreme ownership.
4. Buy things from all my sponsors ;)

I know those are very broad and general.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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She didn't say anything during the race. When I passed her on the bike I said "come on Daniela." This is who I am as a competitor, I would want something said to me so I say it to my competitors, it's not me trying to play any mind game etc. At the awards she said in her speech, "sorry, Rinny has done that to me so I know how it feels! I didn't want to say anything when I passed you because I thought anything I said would be taken as "she's a b$^%&" She said congrats and that I pushed her that whole race. Very nice woman and look forward to racing her again. Much respect for her!

I wanted to ask you if you might, instead of slaying a dragon poked a bear, since she said in a recent interview she still plays that Rinny passing her in Kona 2014 in head almost every run for motivation. Maybe it'll be you from now on passing her on the bike.....

Same tactic in Kona? Would awesome to see and I say that as a Swiss resident and Ryf fan since 2014 when she passed me flying in Switzerland 70.3. By the way, that is a race she seems to do every year, in case some more head to heads would be fun for you.....
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Blmgtnbkr] [ In reply to ]
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Blmgtnbkr wrote:
Since you had no power (I donā€™t mean it that way ;)...did you race by HR or feel or both?
Congrats on a great racešŸ„ˆ!

Ha! Love it! and to answer you with a joke back, I raced by "Ryf." It's an awesome new metric out there that is a philosophy to stay 12-20m back from Ryf's wheel.

Seriously though, I race by HR and have for the past 3 years.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [swim13] [ In reply to ]
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swim13 wrote:
Hi Jocelyn!

Congratulations on a truly well-executed race plan - I only had access to the Ironman Tracker and getting those splits was thrilling! I was sharing your position with coworkers (most with no knowledge of triathlon) and they were excited for you too - they kept asking me "Is she still winning??" from across the room.

Did you have any awareness of Ryf pulling you in on the run? It felt like it happened pretty fast without a ton of time for reaction for you. Or, did you know and did you try to react?

Truly looking forward to Kona and your future racing!!

Ha! I LOVE it! Thanks for following along and getting your coworkers into it!

I was getting splits pretty frequently. So many spectators out there on that course. I heard 1:45 and then all the sudden I heard :30. Apparently her friend had a sign that had a message from Sutton that said something to the affect "it's time to go now." She said the F-bomb and then went. Guess it turned her into angry bird! I've said in a couple other posts, I don't have much head to head experience racing triathlon and need more of that. It sounds like an excuse, I don't mean it like that, I've seen the value of experience throughout my short career. I came to IMTX because she announced she was coming. I hope to get some more head to head competition of any kind in future races.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [CyclingClyde] [ In reply to ]
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CyclingClyde wrote:
Congratulations! Great race :)

How do you like the Morf bars? What drove you to originally try them out?

LOVE them. Wouldn't ride them if I didn't as there's no money with that relationship. So, that's a little bit of a story.

I come to TX to train a lot. Frank (developer/owner) lived in Spring (basically The Woodlands where IMTX is). He talked to me about the bars in 2017 before Kona. He sent me a pair after Kona and I tried them. I rode them outside with gloves on and just couldn't work them correctly with big gloves on and so said "I don't like them and don't want to race on them." We kept in contact through the year as he was a fixer and wanted to know why I didn't love them so he could fix that and get more people to love them. He asked for me to come to his house this January while I was in TX for training. I went, we talked for HOURS and he convinced me to try them out. I rode them commuting around the woodlands as I didn't have a car. After 3-4 days of riding them around I started to LOVE them. We put them on my bike, did some testing that showed a major advantage. Went to ERO did more testing and have been on them since.

Unfortunately Frank passed away in a crash. The company is continuing and they just let me know they should be opening up the store again in the next few weeks. Sorry for the long answer!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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First, congratulations! You made the race a totally different one and exciting to watch. Get a distant supporter in Kona.
1- what your nutrition during the bike and run(cal/h; kind(gel/gel in water/bar...); how you carry with on the bike)??
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Karl] [ In reply to ]
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Karl wrote:
What is your race day nutrition?
Your race was very impressive. Fun to follow as you pushed Ryf through a long day.

Thanks!!

I am partnered with F2C nutrition- PM for a promo on that if you'd like.

I formulate my own bottles with their Glyco-Durance (mango was the flavor I used but my fav is Green Apple). It's malt-dextrin as the fuel source. I had two bottles of 50g carbs with 175mg sodium. Then I made 2 concentrate bottles 1-150g carb, 525 mg sodium and 1- 200g carb and 600mg sodium bottle. I went through the entirety of that on the bike while drinking 1 bottle for each 50 g carbs. I also grabbed a couple bananas off the bike course. It was my first time doing that but I had cramping issues through the swim so was trying to figure those out and settle them before the run. On the run I did 8 gels and water and as much ice as I could grab.

After the race, anything I can find!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Scotthb] [ In reply to ]
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Scotthb wrote:
Congrats! what a day you had!! It ever slip into your head that you had her?

Nope, It's never over till it's over right? I had over 10 min lead in IMNZ and didn't feel like I "had it" till I was running down that finishing shoot.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Congratulations on a fantastic race! You made a lot of fans by going toe to toe with the best in the world, including me. It's rare that the top two stay so close together during a race, which made it exciting to watch. I'll definitely be pulling for you at Kona.

Why did you decide to pass Daniella on the bike when you did?
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Wow! AT 4 calories per carb and ~100 calories per banana that is 2,000 calories!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [jpay] [ In reply to ]
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Your bike fit is one of the best I have seen on the women's side of things. You looked really aero, which I first noticed when I saw pictures of you racing in New Zealand. How has your fit changed from when you started? How hard was it to get used to riding with your hands up? You raced an awesome race and I was so hoping you would pull off the win. Congrats on 2nd.

Thanks! That was curtesy of Jim at ERO in California and Frank of MorfTech. Frank showed me the value of being aero and Jim helped me get there. Before Frank passed away this year he said "I want you to be the most aerodynamic woman out there. No one on the women's side really cares about aerodynamics, there's no Cody Beals that is a woman. I want you to be that."

I have a post on my Insta it was number 6 of my 12 days leading into TX post. It's a picture of my set up here as an amateur in 2014 vs. IMNZ 2019. It's shocking to say the least. Sorry I'm not SlowTwitch savvy enough to post that here. The most change I've had is the beginning of this year. I dropped the front more then 3cm, 155 cranks vs 165, saddle back, and on the morfbars with a 32 degree angle. I've had a mantis position for a while and it has just continuously crept up more. It's lots more comfortable to me then straight arms! I even sometimes will rest my head on my hands.

And thanks for the congrats!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [markko] [ In reply to ]
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I wanted to ask you if you might, instead of slaying a dragon poked a bear, since she said in a recent interview she still plays that Rinny passing her in Kona 2014 in head almost every run for motivation. Maybe it'll be you from now on passing her on the bike.....

Same tactic in Kona? Would awesome to see and I say that as a Swiss resident and Ryf fan since 2014 when she passed me flying in Switzerland 70.3. By the way, that is a race she seems to do every year, in case some more head to heads would be fun for you.....[/quote]
I will be doing my Kona prep on the IMTX course so I'll be replaying the pass she made to me on the run in my head quite a lot. Even on the build to this race I knew it was coming down to a foot race. I remember there was a very hard long run I had and I didn't feel good the whole time. For about the last 90 min I kept saying "Ryf, Ryf, Ryf..." under my breath.

It all depends on how the race plays out in terms of tactics! I be doing my best to make it an interesting race for sure! To me Ryf is so dominant and knows a billion ways how to win!

Thanks for the suggestion! I am limited on my racing schedule as I don't race Sundays for religious reasons! So I was so happy to see her here in America on a Saturday race!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Rommelreno] [ In reply to ]
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Rommelreno wrote:
First, congratulations! You made the race a totally different one and exciting to watch. Get a distant supporter in Kona.
1- what your nutrition during the bike and run(cal/h; kind(gel/gel in water/bar...); how you carry with on the bike)??

Just answered in a previous post!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [dktxracer] [ In reply to ]
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dktxracer wrote:
Congratulations on a fantastic race! You made a lot of fans by going toe to toe with the best in the world, including me. It's rare that the top two stay so close together during a race, which made it exciting to watch. I'll definitely be pulling for you at Kona.

Why did you decide to pass Daniella on the bike when you did?

I saw my family right before that and my sister said ā€œmake your moveā€. To be honest when Iā€™m in race mode I just go and execute so I thought ā€œoh, ok why not?ā€ I also found myself after I got a little boost from their cheers that I had almost crept into the draft zone. I wanted to be very clear I executed a fair race and so made the pass for the remaining miles. Sorry, not a super interesting reason!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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to everyone, note jocelyn's reference to her QR and to jim at ERO. we don't have jocelyn's bike on slowtwitch - yet! - but here are a number of other athletes' renditions of the bike she rides.

as to her bike fitter, here's most of what i can tell you about him in one article.

Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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I spent 8 hours staring at your butt. I couldnā€™t look away. I was crushed when she made the pass. You have a new fan and I canā€™t wait to see what comes next.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [RallySavage] [ In reply to ]
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Huge fan after your post about competing with the best. How long did it take you to get adjusted to the Morf bars?
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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As much as I know you could do what you did and I think you can beat her, I was still absolutely floored with how incredible you raced Saturday. It was simply that awesome of a performance. And you also talk exactly the same way as Chrissie Wellington and Jodie Swallow the times I've chatted with them - winning is a certainty, it's just a matter of time.

I've got a 22 year-old female coworker that is getting into endurance sports who I showed your racing video to and she was so inspired. "She's from here? You know her?" Yes, she's a normal person doing awesome stuff and you can too.

Thanks for being a great example and stay right on track for Kona. This is going to be awesome! Passing Ryf at IMTX should be the last missing piece to put together the perfect race this October. Now you know you can do it, you just have to be yourself on race day. :)
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [RallySavage] [ In reply to ]
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RallySavage wrote:
I spent 8 hours staring at your butt. I couldnā€™t look away. I was crushed when she made the pass. You have a new fan and I canā€™t wait to see what comes next.

Nothing at all creepy about your post.

Favorite Gear: Dimond | Cadex | Desoto Sport | Hoka One One
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Ha! Hopefully it feels good to be the one who made her transition to the 'angry bird'!

I (and I think a lot of people on Slowtwitch have said as much) think its awesome you saw the challenge and rose to it. You said it: "To become better you have to race better people." Glad you got this taste of head-to-head for next time!

KJ
Swim and Triathlon Coach
AllTerrainEndurance.com
KJ@allterrainendurance.com
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Congrats on the amazing race and progress!

Your training is interesting and has it changed much over the years? The number of hours is probably incrementally more than some of the AGers here on ST! It's interesting to see the "big/hard" days with every sport versus "easy or off day (Sunday)." What was the biggest difference and impact on results?

Thanks!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Jocelyn - Great race!
1) Given you're not using power for the race... Is that just race specific that you don't use power? And then if so, did you have any ranges of "acceptable" versus "oh shit" on HR or just all perceived exertion?
2) What are you hoping to have for the rest of the year as a schedule?
3) What are your thoughts on the new KQ rules and how they've played out so far?

Chasing PB Podcast Latest interview with Eli Hemming on Targeting a US MTR spot in Tokyo
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks so much for doing the AMA! It's really cool of you to take the time and give us the insight into you as an athlete.

I found it so refreshing to watch an exciting women's race and your great attitude has earned a huge amount of fans here. Kona is going to be much more interesting this year.

My questions:

Would you change anything about your execution, like maybe have gone out on the run a little slower to save more for later, drank more on the bike, etc?

Is your plan for Kona the same "stick with Ryf through the bike and then have a footrace" or would you like to outswim and/or outbike her to start the run with a bigger lead?

What's your PR open marathon?

Thanks again for doing the AMA. I was rooting for you all day and really enjoyed seeing the fierce competition between you two.
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Hi Jocelyn, congrats on a great race over the weekend! My question might be a bit personal so feel free to totally ignore it if it is. As a female I'm curious how other females train. I recently read Dr. Stacy Sim's book, Roar, where she talks about how women are not small men and discusses how to hydrate, eat, train and recover throughout our menstrual cycles. Does your coach and RD take into account your menstrual cycle when planning your training and fuel? And I don't mean like avoiding a race because it falls on race day, but does the intensity of your workouts or what you eat revolve around the swings in our hormones throughout the month? If you never heard of her I suggest listening to a couple podcasts where she speaks. She spends her career studying women as most studies throughout history have been done on men.

Congrats again and I'm looking forward to tracking you in more races!
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Congratulations Jocelyn from one Bearcat to another!

You have earned another fan and I was rooting for you the entire time during the race!
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Excellent race Jocelyn! I enjoy how open you are with your training. I have heard you on almost all the triathlon podcasts and you are always a great guest. The Fitter Radio conversations between you and Bevan are great!
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Huge fan after your post about competing with the best. How long did it take you to get adjusted to the Morf bars?

Thanks! I have had that mentality since I started my pro career in 2015. One of the reasons I went pro was because I was the first amateur in Kona 2014 so I felt like to be my best I needed to race the best out there, which meant going Pro.

I rode on them on a different bike for commuting for 3ish days and then put them right on my bike. I jump into things with both feet when I do it. I haven't ever reached for an imaginary base bar on the bike and honestly my fit and set up is more comfortable with them then before.
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RallySavage wrote:
I spent 8 hours staring at your butt. I couldnā€™t look away. I was crushed when she made the pass. You have a new fan and I canā€™t wait to see what comes next.


Nothing at all creepy about your post.

The creepy part is on the bike you can see too much... at least from what I've seen in pictures! eek! Please, don't go back to look for that now! :)
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As much as I know you could do what you did and I think you can beat her, I was still absolutely floored with how incredible you raced Saturday. It was simply that awesome of a performance. And you also talk exactly the same way as Chrissie Wellington and Jodie Swallow the times I've chatted with them - winning is a certainty, it's just a matter of time.

I've got a 22 year-old female coworker that is getting into endurance sports who I showed your racing video to and she was so inspired. "She's from here? You know her?" Yes, she's a normal person doing awesome stuff and you can too.

Thanks for being a great example and stay right on track for Kona. This is going to be awesome! Passing Ryf at IMTX should be the last missing piece to put together the perfect race this October. Now you know you can do it, you just have to be yourself on race day. :)

Thanks Brett! I am just a normal person being the best version of me I can. I use to put Ryf on a different level then myself, but how do you beat someone who you THINK is better then you? Change your thinking :)

See you around! I'll be back down in September if you make it to houston let me know.
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Ha! Hopefully it feels good to be the one who made her transition to the 'angry bird'!

I (and I think a lot of people on Slowtwitch have said as much) think its awesome you saw the challenge and rose to it. You said it: "To become better you have to race better people." Glad you got this taste of head-to-head for next time!

Ha, I guess it's good but why couldn't she have stayed with what she was doing!?!? ;)

Thanks for the complement, it's just how I think and how we have to as female pros to be able to elevate our game to hers and beyond.
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Jocelyn- Like everyone else has said awesome race! Not only are you using a lot of liquid Kcal on the bike but it looks like you went through 9 bottles in less than 4:45. Do you have a high volume of sweat/Na loss? And can you speak to how you realistically train outdoors with those caloric needs on the bike? I'm trying to hyperconcentrate calories in my bottles too but I either have to stop at a gas station every 90 minutes to dilute the mixture or just hyperconcentrate the osmolality. What's your training approach? Thanks!
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Hey Jocelyn, no real questions, just wanted to say congrats on an awesome performance!

Personally, I have to say that the time I was able to train with you in TX last September was motivating and inspiring, and I hope you crush it at Kona this year! I'm in a build for IM Cork and hope to see you in transition in October (and then see you on the run again on the Queen K, but this time you'll be in the lead :) instead of Ryf)

-Scott Hansen

Strava
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Congrats on the amazing race and progress!

Your training is interesting and has it changed much over the years? The number of hours is probably incrementally more than some of the AGers here on ST! It's interesting to see the "big/hard" days with every sport versus "easy or off day (Sunday)." What was the biggest difference and impact on results?

Thanks!

Thank you!

It has changed a ton! My first IM as an amateur was 2014 IMTX. I was training avg 12/13 hours/week, max 17ish with mostly aerobic with 1 hard run and 1 hard bike a week as well as long run/ride. When I went pro I thought I could avg 15-16 hours and max at 20. That was most of 2015 with dismal results. I took the plunge and hired a professional coach and increased training hours to low 20's but a TON TON of intensity. Basically every session I did had intensity in it. I burnt myself a bit on that and switched coaches to Jesse K. Under him we avg high 20's hours/week and went into the low 30's for big builds for a couple weeks. Intensity was very very low and just had a lot of Z1/2 work. It worked well for me for a while but just in December I knew my mind and body just needed a complete change and overhaul. I switch coaches to Bevan McKinnon of fitter out of New Zealand. My hours have actually decrease since and hover around mid 20's and is probably a mixture of my first coach and Jesse. We have intensity, endurance and pay very close attention to my body. We have daily communication and have made more changes in my training on a day to day basis then I even have.

Biggest difference that has impacted results- that's a hard one as the switch in coaches is exactly what I said I needed, a complete overhaul. This year's theme is change and there has been a lot of it from my training, nutrition, and bike set up. I threw the kitchen sink since I was so frustrated at results in 2018 after 3 wins in 2017 season. If I had to choose ONE thing I would actually say it would be my day to day nutrition is more lower carb, high fat. I work closely with a nutritionist out of NZ named Mikki Williden under my coaches suggestion. We have cut my daily carb intake in half and increased fat intake. I not only perform better but FEEL better in day-to-day life.
I think Sunday as a complete off day has been a huge benefit most triathletes fear. I ran at BYU in college and we took Sundays off. My coach was asked how he had a top 10 team in the nation year after year, he said "we have Sundays as a rest day." Athletes fear time off instead of cherish and use it to their advantage.
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Jocelynmccauley wrote:
tri@thlete wrote:
Congrats on the amazing race and progress!

Your training is interesting and has it changed much over the years? The number of hours is probably incrementally more than some of the AGers here on ST! It's interesting to see the "big/hard" days with every sport versus "easy or off day (Sunday)." What was the biggest difference and impact on results?

Thanks!

Thank you!

It has changed a ton! My first IM as an amateur was 2014 IMTX. I was training avg 12/13 hours/week, max 17ish with mostly aerobic with 1 hard run and 1 hard bike a week as well as long run/ride. When I went pro I thought I could avg 15-16 hours and max at 20. That was most of 2015 with dismal results. I took the plunge and hired a professional coach and increased training hours to low 20's but a TON TON of intensity. Basically every session I did had intensity in it. I burnt myself a bit on that and switched coaches to Jesse K. Under him we avg high 20's hours/week and went into the low 30's for big builds for a couple weeks. Intensity was very very low and just had a lot of Z1/2 work. It worked well for me for a while but just in December I knew my mind and body just needed a complete change and overhaul. I switch coaches to Bevan McKinnon of fitter out of New Zealand. My hours have actually decrease since and hover around mid 20's and is probably a mixture of my first coach and Jesse. We have intensity, endurance and pay very close attention to my body. We have daily communication and have made more changes in my training on a day to day basis then I even have.

Biggest difference that has impacted results- that's a hard one as the switch in coaches is exactly what I said I needed, a complete overhaul. This year's theme is change and there has been a lot of it from my training, nutrition, and bike set up. I threw the kitchen sink since I was so frustrated at results in 2018 after 3 wins in 2017 season. If I had to choose ONE thing I would actually say it would be my day to day nutrition is more lower carb, high fat. I work closely with a nutritionist out of NZ named Mikki Williden under my coaches suggestion. We have cut my daily carb intake in half and increased fat intake. I not only perform better but FEEL better in day-to-day life.
I think Sunday as a complete off day has been a huge benefit most triathletes fear. I ran at BYU in college and we took Sundays off. My coach was asked how he had a top 10 team in the nation year after year, he said "we have Sundays as a rest day." Athletes fear time off instead of cherish and use it to their advantage.

You keep bringing Sundays as off for religious reasons. What is your religion?
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Hi Jocelyn - Great race!
1) Given you're not using power for the race... Is that just race specific that you don't use power? And then if so, did you have any ranges of "acceptable" versus "oh shit" on HR or just all perceived exertion?
2) What are you hoping to have for the rest of the year as a schedule?
3) What are your thoughts on the new KQ rules and how they've played out so far?

Thank you!!

1- Yes, I usually have power but don't look at it during the race but when I changed my bike set up it made it so I had no power. Rotor will have a spider PM in June/July that will solve that. I did have acceptable versus race my own race HRs. The race plan I decided on just said, "If HR is above 165 for over 10 min, back off." Very simple, but got to keep it that way for a race. So yes, I never got to that point.
2- St. George this weekend- EEEK!!! Never have done that so it'll just be interesting to see what happens
Epic Ride 2019- June 13-14 517 miles in 2 days, Boise to Glacier National Park- this is a personal thing I've done and LOVE it! PM me if interested to join for the fun :)
Santa Rosa 70.3
Vichy 70.3
Kona
Taupo 70.3
3. I'm mixed, 2017 I won 2 IMs and only had 4000 points which wouldn't have qualified me without the other races I did. I think it's a little silly to win 2 IMs and not be qualified. 2018 I wouldn't have qualified under the current system but had points from 10th in kona and several podiums. This year I would have qualified 2ce now. I don't think either system is perfect, probably some mixture where you go if you win and then there are a couple slots that are filled by a points system for those who had several podiums in the year but never a win. In the end though, it doesn't really matter what I think so I just accept what it is and figure out what I need to do.
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Awesome job! Watching you on the live feed was the highlight of the race.
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Thanks so much for doing the AMA! It's really cool of you to take the time and give us the insight into you as an athlete.

I found it so refreshing to watch an exciting women's race and your great attitude has earned a huge amount of fans here. Kona is going to be much more interesting this year.

My questions:

Would you change anything about your execution, like maybe have gone out on the run a little slower to save more for later, drank more on the bike, etc?

Is your plan for Kona the same "stick with Ryf through the bike and then have a footrace" or would you like to outswim and/or outbike her to start the run with a bigger lead?

What's your PR open marathon?

Thanks again for doing the AMA. I was rooting for you all day and really enjoyed seeing the fierce competition between you two.

Well, I love this sport and it's given me so much! I love the people interaction of this sport so this is one of the "fun" parts to the sport for me! I plan to make Kona more interesting! Lots of HARD HARD training to get through! Still improvements we have to find and gain.

I wish I could have drunk more on the bike. I haven't watched the coverage so I don't know how evident it was to viewers how hard it was to get water that second lap on the bike. I usually drink more on the bike then I did. I kept running out of water between aid stations. TMI- drug testing they have to test your specific gravity to make sure it's not too dilute. Mine was 1.018- super dehydrated! Once you're behind you can't catch up. Talk about killer headache for 24-48 hours! Run, I didn't go out HR wise too hard, I just suffered a bit with dehydration. Maybe gone with her on the pass ;)

I don't know what my plan will be for October. I think we will have to see where swim/bike/run fitness is able to get to before that race and make a plan from there. I was surprised at her swim fitness in TX, I think she has worked on it and seen improvements. Jeanni Seymour out swam MBK by 30 seconds in a half in Galveston, she will be swimming with the Sarah true group in Kona but swam behind Daniela and I in TX, just interesting. I didn't express my run fitness that I have in TX. When my run is on point and I'm not super dehydrated, I can out run her. Lots of good to take away and work of for sure.

I've never done an open marathon and don't ever plan to until I'm done with the sport. That stuffs too hard to train and race!!!
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Hi Jocelyn, congrats on a great race over the weekend! My question might be a bit personal so feel free to totally ignore it if it is. As a female I'm curious how other females train. I recently read Dr. Stacy Sim's book, Roar, where she talks about how women are not small men and discusses how to hydrate, eat, train and recover throughout our menstrual cycles. Does your coach and RD take into account your menstrual cycle when planning your training and fuel? And I don't mean like avoiding a race because it falls on race day, but does the intensity of your workouts or what you eat revolve around the swings in our hormones throughout the month? If you never heard of her I suggest listening to a couple podcasts where she speaks. She spends her career studying women as most studies throughout history have been done on men.

Congrats again and I'm looking forward to tracking you in more races!

Thanks! Nothing is too personal for me! Religion, politics, bring it all on! ;)

I love ROAR and recommend it to many people. My coach has worked with Stacy and still bounces questions off her when he doesn't know the answer. Bevan McKinnon of fitter from NZ is my coach since December and we do take into account my cycle when looking at training and fueling. I get VERY depressed the day before my period start and training suffers for that one day. But we know it and can plan around it. I have a consistent cycle when it's not disrupted by races so that makes things easy to plan around. I just stick it right into TP and also used an app called FitrWoman that helps track your cycle and gives you recommendations based where you are in yours.
I agree with Stacy on most things but there are a few that I have at least seen different results in myself then what she recommends so just make sure you try different things out and figure out what works for you because women aren't small men but all women aren't the same either.
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Jocelyn- Like everyone else has said awesome race! Not only are you using a lot of liquid Kcal on the bike but it looks like you went through 9 bottles in less than 4:45. Do you have a high volume of sweat/Na loss? And can you speak to how you realistically train outdoors with those caloric needs on the bike? I'm trying to hyperconcentrate calories in my bottles too but I either have to stop at a gas station every 90 minutes to dilute the mixture or just hyperconcentrate the osmolality. What's your training approach? Thanks!

Thanks!

Ya, I have a VERY high sweat rate but low sodium loss/L of sweat. When training I don't use as many carbohydrates, I use less than half what I would on race day. I also will have 5 bottles with me on my bike for training. 3 on my bike and 2 in my back pockets. It stinks but I would have to stop far too often if not. I'll generally do 2 bottles/hour in moderate temps then much less in cold and a bit more in hot. I do a lot of trainer riding even in the summer because of ease with family- I have a 6year old daughter.

I have a lot of training answers here already but a brief answer would be a mix between intensity and endurance and most days I do Swim, bike, run. I haven't been lifting much but will be adding that back in this summer.
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synthetic wrote:
Jocelynmccauley wrote:
tri@thlete wrote:
Congrats on the amazing race and progress!

Your training is interesting and has it changed much over the years? The number of hours is probably incrementally more than some of the AGers here on ST! It's interesting to see the "big/hard" days with every sport versus "easy or off day (Sunday)." What was the biggest difference and impact on results?

Thanks!


Thank you!

It has changed a ton! My first IM as an amateur was 2014 IMTX. I was training avg 12/13 hours/week, max 17ish with mostly aerobic with 1 hard run and 1 hard bike a week as well as long run/ride. When I went pro I thought I could avg 15-16 hours and max at 20. That was most of 2015 with dismal results. I took the plunge and hired a professional coach and increased training hours to low 20's but a TON TON of intensity. Basically every session I did had intensity in it. I burnt myself a bit on that and switched coaches to Jesse K. Under him we avg high 20's hours/week and went into the low 30's for big builds for a couple weeks. Intensity was very very low and just had a lot of Z1/2 work. It worked well for me for a while but just in December I knew my mind and body just needed a complete change and overhaul. I switch coaches to Bevan McKinnon of fitter out of New Zealand. My hours have actually decrease since and hover around mid 20's and is probably a mixture of my first coach and Jesse. We have intensity, endurance and pay very close attention to my body. We have daily communication and have made more changes in my training on a day to day basis then I even have.

Biggest difference that has impacted results- that's a hard one as the switch in coaches is exactly what I said I needed, a complete overhaul. This year's theme is change and there has been a lot of it from my training, nutrition, and bike set up. I threw the kitchen sink since I was so frustrated at results in 2018 after 3 wins in 2017 season. If I had to choose ONE thing I would actually say it would be my day to day nutrition is more lower carb, high fat. I work closely with a nutritionist out of NZ named Mikki Williden under my coaches suggestion. We have cut my daily carb intake in half and increased fat intake. I not only perform better but FEEL better in day-to-day life.
I think Sunday as a complete off day has been a huge benefit most triathletes fear. I ran at BYU in college and we took Sundays off. My coach was asked how he had a top 10 team in the nation year after year, he said "we have Sundays as a rest day." Athletes fear time off instead of cherish and use it to their advantage.


You keep bringing Sundays as off for religious reasons. What is your religion?

I am a member of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints" AKA Mormon. People who are members of my church are not required to not work etc on Sundays, that is more of a personal religious choice for me. If you want to hear why and the story behind it check out the Oxygen Addict podcast I did a couple months ago. I though Rob did an excellent job in that interview with everything and was probably one of my favorite podcasts I've done outside of Fitter Radio ones.
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Jocelynmccauley wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Jocelynmccauley wrote:
tri@thlete wrote:
Congrats on the amazing race and progress!

Your training is interesting and has it changed much over the years? The number of hours is probably incrementally more than some of the AGers here on ST! It's interesting to see the "big/hard" days with every sport versus "easy or off day (Sunday)." What was the biggest difference and impact on results?

Thanks!


Thank you!

It has changed a ton! My first IM as an amateur was 2014 IMTX. I was training avg 12/13 hours/week, max 17ish with mostly aerobic with 1 hard run and 1 hard bike a week as well as long run/ride. When I went pro I thought I could avg 15-16 hours and max at 20. That was most of 2015 with dismal results. I took the plunge and hired a professional coach and increased training hours to low 20's but a TON TON of intensity. Basically every session I did had intensity in it. I burnt myself a bit on that and switched coaches to Jesse K. Under him we avg high 20's hours/week and went into the low 30's for big builds for a couple weeks. Intensity was very very low and just had a lot of Z1/2 work. It worked well for me for a while but just in December I knew my mind and body just needed a complete change and overhaul. I switch coaches to Bevan McKinnon of fitter out of New Zealand. My hours have actually decrease since and hover around mid 20's and is probably a mixture of my first coach and Jesse. We have intensity, endurance and pay very close attention to my body. We have daily communication and have made more changes in my training on a day to day basis then I even have.

Biggest difference that has impacted results- that's a hard one as the switch in coaches is exactly what I said I needed, a complete overhaul. This year's theme is change and there has been a lot of it from my training, nutrition, and bike set up. I threw the kitchen sink since I was so frustrated at results in 2018 after 3 wins in 2017 season. If I had to choose ONE thing I would actually say it would be my day to day nutrition is more lower carb, high fat. I work closely with a nutritionist out of NZ named Mikki Williden under my coaches suggestion. We have cut my daily carb intake in half and increased fat intake. I not only perform better but FEEL better in day-to-day life.
I think Sunday as a complete off day has been a huge benefit most triathletes fear. I ran at BYU in college and we took Sundays off. My coach was asked how he had a top 10 team in the nation year after year, he said "we have Sundays as a rest day." Athletes fear time off instead of cherish and use it to their advantage.


You keep bringing Sundays as off for religious reasons. What is your religion?

I am a member of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints" AKA Mormon. People who are members of my church are not required to not work etc on Sundays, that is more of a personal religious choice for me. If you want to hear why and the story behind it check out the Oxygen Addict podcast I did a couple months ago. I though Rob did an excellent job in that interview with everything and was probably one of my favorite podcasts I've done outside of Fitter Radio ones.

Ahh thanks. I met a Mormon running couple and same deal. My wife is JW and they aren't to fond of members partaking in athletic feats or higher education, so I can relate. Have a link to the podcast? (Text version would be best)
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As others have already said, congrats on a great race! I really enjoyed watching you on FB. Since nothing seems out of bounds from a question standpoint, even though you were dehydrated, did you still pee on the bike and if so, how many times? Is this something you pay attention to when training/racing? 2 bottles/hr sounds like a lot of fluid to sweat out...
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synthetic wrote:
Jocelynmccauley wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Jocelynmccauley wrote:
tri@thlete wrote:
Congrats on the amazing race and progress!

Your training is interesting and has it changed much over the years? The number of hours is probably incrementally more than some of the AGers here on ST! It's interesting to see the "big/hard" days with every sport versus "easy or off day (Sunday)." What was the biggest difference and impact on results?

Thanks!


Thank you!

It has changed a ton! My first IM as an amateur was 2014 IMTX. I was training avg 12/13 hours/week, max 17ish with mostly aerobic with 1 hard run and 1 hard bike a week as well as long run/ride. When I went pro I thought I could avg 15-16 hours and max at 20. That was most of 2015 with dismal results. I took the plunge and hired a professional coach and increased training hours to low 20's but a TON TON of intensity. Basically every session I did had intensity in it. I burnt myself a bit on that and switched coaches to Jesse K. Under him we avg high 20's hours/week and went into the low 30's for big builds for a couple weeks. Intensity was very very low and just had a lot of Z1/2 work. It worked well for me for a while but just in December I knew my mind and body just needed a complete change and overhaul. I switch coaches to Bevan McKinnon of fitter out of New Zealand. My hours have actually decrease since and hover around mid 20's and is probably a mixture of my first coach and Jesse. We have intensity, endurance and pay very close attention to my body. We have daily communication and have made more changes in my training on a day to day basis then I even have.

Biggest difference that has impacted results- that's a hard one as the switch in coaches is exactly what I said I needed, a complete overhaul. This year's theme is change and there has been a lot of it from my training, nutrition, and bike set up. I threw the kitchen sink since I was so frustrated at results in 2018 after 3 wins in 2017 season. If I had to choose ONE thing I would actually say it would be my day to day nutrition is more lower carb, high fat. I work closely with a nutritionist out of NZ named Mikki Williden under my coaches suggestion. We have cut my daily carb intake in half and increased fat intake. I not only perform better but FEEL better in day-to-day life.
I think Sunday as a complete off day has been a huge benefit most triathletes fear. I ran at BYU in college and we took Sundays off. My coach was asked how he had a top 10 team in the nation year after year, he said "we have Sundays as a rest day." Athletes fear time off instead of cherish and use it to their advantage.


You keep bringing Sundays as off for religious reasons. What is your religion?


I am a member of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints" AKA Mormon. People who are members of my church are not required to not work etc on Sundays, that is more of a personal religious choice for me. If you want to hear why and the story behind it check out the Oxygen Addict podcast I did a couple months ago. I though Rob did an excellent job in that interview with everything and was probably one of my favorite podcasts I've done outside of Fitter Radio ones.


Ahh thanks. I met a Mormon running couple and same deal. My wife is JW and they aren't to fond of members partaking in athletic feats or higher education, so I can relate. Have a link to the podcast? (Text version would be best)

Ya most members don't but there are always exceptions

Here's the podcast:

https://www.oxygenaddict.com/...222-jocelyn-mccauley
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As others have already said, congrats on a great race! I really enjoyed watching you on FB. Since nothing seems out of bounds from a question standpoint, even though you were dehydrated, did you still pee on the bike and if so, how many times? Is this something you pay attention to when training/racing? 2 bottles/hr sounds like a lot of fluid to sweat out...

Thanks!!!
Haha! Ya, nothing out of bounds for me :)

I wasn't dehydrated on the first 3/4 of the bike ish so yes, I did pee on the bike. I do have to say that was a little bit of a worry being on FB live peeing on my bike, they really do catch us at our sexiest times ;) I peed 3 times on the bike while going down some of those overpasses.

I always pay attention to that while training and racing. I try to make sure I pee every 2ish hours. 2 bottles/hr really isn't too hard to sweat out for me though.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Congrats on not only a great race, but having a joyful personality. (As a Legacy athlete) I look forward to seeing you race at Kona.

Do you have a "go-to" thought or mantra when things get mentally tough during race and (if so), what is it?

And, on a completely different note:
Jocelynmccauley wrote:
I am a member of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints" AKA Mormon. People who are members of my church are not required to not work etc on Sundays, that is more of a personal religious choice for me.

True story: My first (and to date, only) employer who required I work a Sunday shift was the Y.
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Congrats on the race! How on earth do you train in Cincinnati? We lived there for a couple years and it was a lot less conducive to triathlon training than we were used to...
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Hey! Congrats again!

1)You mentioned that you had 4 bottles on the bike. Did you have all of them since of the beginning of the race? I see only 3 on the photos.

2)What's you average nutrition on a 2-4 hour training bike ride? I heard it's better not to eat a lot of carbs during these rides, and some people train only on water if the ride is less that 2-2.5 hours.

Thank you.
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Great work out there! What BTA bottle mount do you use on your MORF bar?
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Jocelyn, I've found that "high fat, medium carb" is working great for me right now too. But can you describe that a little bit more about how that actually looks as far as eating and snacking goes?

My own description of it is something like, "Quit being afraid of fat and let's calm down on the carbs a bit." lol
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Howdy] [ In reply to ]
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Howdy wrote:
Congrats on not only a great race, but having a joyful personality. (As a Legacy athlete) I look forward to seeing you race at Kona.

Do you have a "go-to" thought or mantra when things get mentally tough during race and (if so), what is it?

And, on a completely different note:
Jocelynmccauley wrote:

I am a member of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints" AKA Mormon. People who are members of my church are not required to not work etc on Sundays, that is more of a personal religious choice for me.


True story: My first (and to date, only) employer who required I work a Sunday shift was the Y.

Thanks! If you see me in Kona please come and say "Hi."

I have so so many mantras and they change around each race, I give them to my family pre race for them to scream at me. Here are a couple:
Today is your day, you're making it happen today
You ARE this good
Define yourself
Believe
Believe your dreams
Anything is possible
Smile

I also have a theme song for each race, it was Confident by Demi Lavato. I went into IMNZ with a lot of confidence and after I started wondering if it was coming off as confidence or arrogance. I never want to come off as arrogant so after thinking and talking with others I realized confidence is a GOOD thing, it's "I am good and ready" not "I am better than you."
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Uncle Phil] [ In reply to ]
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Congrats on the race! How on earth do you train in Cincinnati? We lived there for a couple years and it was a lot less conducive to triathlon training than we were used to...

Thanks so much! Shoot, I don't know where I haven't updated that info, oops! I am in Eagle (Boise), Idaho (for the last 1.5 years), which is training PARADISE! So much so we are planning on doing an AG training camp there in September.

I had a couple of great friends in Cincy to train with though, just was frustrating to have to drive to where I could ride.
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Any question I'd have has already been answered. I just wanted to give a huge congrats and to thank you for coming on here and answering every single question. I loved seeing somebody really challenge Ryf like that. Best of luck for the rest of 2019, I'll be pulling for you in Kona.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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How much of your run training is done on a treadmill?

Looking forward to you racing Daniela again this October!
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Thanks so much! Shoot, I don't know where I haven't updated that info, oops!

That makes a lot more sense! I read or heard it a couple places following along during the race, and it's also in your twitter bio. Riding must be so much nicer in Eagle, but most places would be. lol
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Jocelynmccauley wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
RallySavage wrote:
I spent 8 hours staring at your butt. I couldnā€™t look away. I was crushed when she made the pass. You have a new fan and I canā€™t wait to see what comes next.


Nothing at all creepy about your post.

The creepy part is on the bike you can see too much... at least from what I've seen in pictures! eek! Please, don't go back to look for that now! :)

Apologies! I meant no disrespect. In hindsight I see how this came across as creepy. What I was trying to convey, albeit poorly, was that I spent most of my day last Saturday watching the race and rooting for you. Since they only had one camera focused on the race leader, I was primarily watching the race from your perspective
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Jocelynmccauley] [ In reply to ]
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Great result!

Iā€™ll ask the same thing I always ask pro triathletes....

Can you dunk?

Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
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Hey! Congrats again!

1)You mentioned that you had 4 bottles on the bike. Did you have all of them since of the beginning of the race? I see only 3 on the photos.

2)What's you average nutrition on a 2-4 hour training bike ride? I heard it's better not to eat a lot of carbs during these rides, and some people train only on water if the ride is less that 2-2.5 hours.

Thank you.

Thanks so much!!!

1- I did only have 3, I picked the 4th bottle up in special needs. Lots of pros don't use it but I like to just use the nutrition I am use to so don't take much off course other then water.

2- If I'm training 90min of less I don't take in nutrition. Longer then that it's generally between 25-40g of carbs/hour but try to go as light as possible on most days. There are then FULL fuel training sessions and days as well though just to make sure the gut can still tolerate it. I've done two 4 hour rides and one 5 hour ride completely fasted besides water to improve metabolic efficiency.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [alaska848] [ In reply to ]
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Great work out there! What BTA bottle mount do you use on your MORF bar?

Thanks!

It's one that Frank 3d printed :) He was designing a 3d printed bottle for my set up when he passed. I may have found someone who can help with that though for Kona. Hopefully!
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [ZenTriBrett] [ In reply to ]
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Jocelyn, I've found that "high fat, medium carb" is working great for me right now too. But can you describe that a little bit more about how that actually looks as far as eating and snacking goes?

My own description of it is something like, "Quit being afraid of fat and let's calm down on the carbs a bit." lol

K, I'll try to make this a brief as I can...

I use to train with full amount of carbs each session and then just high quality carbs during the day. Because of my training volume though my carb consumption was still around 450-550g/day AVERAGE and 50g of fat/day AVERAGE. Since starting to work with Bevan-new coach- we cut my carb intake in half. We average about 250g/day now. So with all my training that is pretty low carb/high fat but I like to say moderate carb since people thin under 100g when thinking low carb generally.

I start each day generally with a swim and just wake up and go do it fasted from the night. Refuel with 3eggs, sweet potato hash, avocado, and bell peppers/onions. Generally get on the bike and depending on length may fuel it a bit. Lunch, if I'm not training through it is a MASSIVE salad with all sorts of protein and good fats. Dinner is generally lots of high quality vegs and meat of some kind.
Snacks I'll do jerky, 1/2 banana with almond butter, Avocado with a bit of black beans and salt, Hard boiled egg, Pork rinds, coconut yogurt, BACON!

After long or BIG sessions I will do a recovery shake or applesauce with protein powder.

Let me know if you have any more questions from this.
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [mbwallis] [ In reply to ]
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Any question I'd have has already been answered. I just wanted to give a huge congrats and to thank you for coming on here and answering every single question. I loved seeing somebody really challenge Ryf like that. Best of luck for the rest of 2019, I'll be pulling for you in Kona.

Awe, thanks! I will get to every single one but it may take me a while since I'm now down in St. George to race the 70.3 stupidly! I plan to challenge her again in Kona but need to build some more fitness, we had some AMAZING learnings about her and her racing this race though.
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How much of your run training is done on a treadmill?

Looking forward to you racing Daniela again this October!

In the winter probably 85+% of it. In the summer I try to make it 50% or less but honestly probably still ends up being on the higher side. I have a 6-year-old daughter and so treadmill running is sometimes just easier, although she did tell me the other day she can bike faster then I can run now. I agree but only for a min ;)

2 weeks before both NZ and TX we made sure to get outside, get on some hard surfaces and even do some fast down hill running. It's worked out fine both races!
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RallySavage wrote:
Jocelynmccauley wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
RallySavage wrote:
I spent 8 hours staring at your butt. I couldnā€™t look away. I was crushed when she made the pass. You have a new fan and I canā€™t wait to see what comes next.


Nothing at all creepy about your post.


The creepy part is on the bike you can see too much... at least from what I've seen in pictures! eek! Please, don't go back to look for that now! :)


Apologies! I meant no disrespect. In hindsight I see how this came across as creepy. What I was trying to convey, albeit poorly, was that I spent most of my day last Saturday watching the race and rooting for you. Since they only had one camera focused on the race leader, I was primarily watching the race from your perspective

Oh please!!! I am the person you need to worry about the least with offending! You would have to start calling me horrible names or things to offend me! :) No apologies needed at ALL!
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Congrats, belatedly for IMNZ and now for IMTX.


Are you planning on defending the IMNZ crown next year? You seem on a real high about the second in IMTX, moreso than the win in Taupo despite a record breaking run. Is that just due to the competition with Ryf, or some other factors?

How much work do you do on your own bike? I've seen some top elite athletes who genuinely couldn't even put a thrown chain back on their bike - how confident are you in getting the tool kit out on your bike.

How much training do you do with other people? One of the things for me was that I could do tri-training solo and so it was really efficient and I didn't need to time my sessions to fit with agreed meet points/times and then the inevitable wait for 'that person' that's always 10-15mins late and then turns up without a water bottle... But now I'm finding that for the higher intensity sessions then that hassle is offset by the extra 10% I go into the hurt locker when training with other people.

Thanks
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Just wanted to say you are doing a great job on this thread. Thanks for spending time with us here!

Best of luck at St. George!

Scott
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good stuff

since you mentioned cody how would the fiancial progress of the "female cody" look like in comparasion ( totally understand if you dont want to go in details but a rough comparasion would be interesting )

what do you think needs to be done to increase female participation in the sport ?
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
Great result!

Iā€™ll ask the same thing I always ask pro triathletes....

Can you dunk?

I was trying to think of some funny comment to come back with and I just don't have anything... so no, I can't. Pretty sure that's what drove me into endurance sports, no coordination at all, I mean riding a bike is a feat in of it's self. In fact Coach said after seeing that coverage that we need to get some rollers to work on that...
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Re: Ask me Anything- IMTX 2nd place Jocelyn McCauley [Duncan74] [ In reply to ]
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Congrats, belatedly for IMNZ and now for IMTX.


Are you planning on defending the IMNZ crown next year? You seem on a real high about the second in IMTX, moreso than the win in Taupo despite a record breaking run. Is that just due to the competition with Ryf, or some other factors?

How much work do you do on your own bike? I've seen some top elite athletes who genuinely couldn't even put a thrown chain back on their bike - how confident are you in getting the tool kit out on your bike.

How much training do you do with other people? One of the things for me was that I could do tri-training solo and so it was really efficient and I didn't need to time my sessions to fit with agreed meet points/times and then the inevitable wait for 'that person' that's always 10-15mins late and then turns up without a water bottle... But now I'm finding that for the higher intensity sessions then that hassle is offset by the extra 10% I go into the hurt locker when training with other people.

Thanks

Thanks! Both great races :)

HECK YES! I've done IMNZ every year since I went pro in 2015. I've won there in 2017 and 2019 and it's my favorite place on earth besides home. IMNZ was a 3 min course record and broke the run record that was then broken again 50ish min later. Probably one of the shortest lived run records! I was stoked with that performance and race for sure! There are many factors that go into making IMTX an even better race day. Yes, Ryf, I planned to swim, bike, and then out run her. I was able to execute that to an acceptable level, just not finish off the job, BUT there are other factors that make me hopeful for the rematch. We were able to learn more about Ryf this race as well. I haven't raced her head to head like that before and so it was invaluable experience for Kona.

I also have not been able to execute in TX- 2015 no show on the body, 2016- passed out .5 miles from finish, 2017- 3 flats within an hour and stuck in hardest gear, 2018- sick Thursday before race and DNFd on the run. To be able to turn around a race and the mindset after that many failures is a win on it's own to me.

HA! Well I can do that. I pack and unpack my bike generally while traveling but the QR PR6 is pretty easy, just 2 allen keys needed. I do out source my bike work to an awesome local bike shop in Boise- TriTown, because when I can outsource something, why not? It's why I hired a coach, if there's something that you can not deal with or think about then do it! Yes, I know basics on the bike for emergencies but don't make me build one or run cables!

So the short answer to your question is 1 session per week generally! I'm right outside Boise in Eagle, ID and while we have a great group of triathletes its sometimes hard to find people to be able to train with, not just speed/fitness wise but time of day. As a mother I try to make triathlon as much a 6am-5pm job as I can so my family can have time together at night, which is different than most age groupers. I have 2 great training partners that I probably train with 1/week when schedules align. I'm always looking for good training partners, come move to Boise ;)
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I'm always looking for good training partners, come move to Boise ;)

Ha, I'd be feck all use for the swim or run, but if you fancied a ride ahead of IMNZ then that's the only thing where I'd be able to stay with you. We had Javier Gomez based here in Tauranga over the winter last year, a few NZ world cup triathletes as well, so the roads are well travelled by the spandex brigade ;-)

Hope the rest of the season goes well for you.
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Can you reference some of the research you did that encouraged you to do a "water only fast" for multiple days?
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MrRabbit wrote:
Such an amazing race, congratulations!!

Do you train with power and just race by feel? And adding to that, do you do any "feel" based workouts to really get a grip on how raceday should go down?


I generally train with power and heart rate and notice perceived exertion. The last 3 years I've only raced on HR, I may start to race on power again but am waiting for Rotor to come out with their spider based PM to have power back on my racing bike.

Personally there is an emotional component to seeing power and HR and how they are or aren't lining up on the day. I can handle that emotionally during training but in a race when emotions are already at the limit I don't want to throw in a "oh shoot my HR is 4 beats higher then it should be with this power" and then start thinking, "well maybe today won't end up going well."

Leading into this race I did a couple bikes without power not out of choice and found my self smashed more after those then others. Wrote a post leading up to the race about power etc:

"11. Data is both motivating as well as a governor on what you think is possible. There are times when we need to have metrics and markers and times when we need to let go of what we THINK is possible and blow that out of the water by not looking at data and reigning ourselves in because ā€œthose watts are too high,ā€ or ā€œthat pace is too fast.ā€
I think this is something Iā€™m still learning about and playing with. This build to IMTX Iā€™ve had a couple of sessions without power or pace for various reasons and I felt more smashed after those then when Iā€™ve had data. We need to make sure data is our slave not the other way around. "

Totally! I want ALL the data during training, but for races, I literally only display how much distance I've accomplished. I record it all for post-hoc analysis, but I don't want to see any of it during the race.

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I am a member of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints" AKA Mormon. People who are members of my church are not required to not work etc on Sundays, that is more of a personal religious choice for me. If you want to hear why and the story behind it check out the Oxygen Addict podcast I did a couple months ago. I though Rob did an excellent job in that interview with everything and was probably one of my favorite podcasts I've done outside of Fitter Radio ones.[/quote]


Good for you Jocelyn. It's nice to see a commitment to spiritual fitness in addition to the physical. As a MOP (on a good day) age grouper, finding time for church, work, family, and training is always a struggle. Anyway, great performance in TX. You and Ryf passed me heading into the wind on the Southbound trip down the toll road. I had no idea how close you came to knocking her off until I finished and my girls told me how excited they were that Daniela almost got beaten (the excitement stems from another story involving my Italian wife and her dislike of the Swiss). Great job, great race. Keep it up.
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