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We're getting ready to put a bunch of new Zwift events on the Slowtwitch schedule. Including RUN events. It occurs to me that we might need a place for questions from those who want to anything about Zwift, our own events, or to suggest when you might want them, what you want, and so forth. I'll answer as well as I can. In the meantime...

* If you're not currently a Zwifter and you want to be, here's where to go and if you click this link you'll be doing Slowtwitch a small favor when you sign up. With that, I'll answer questions, take suggestions, and this will be an sticky thread, more or less evergreen.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I would be interested in a weekly short TT event during the week. Don't know if u can do multiple times so time zones work.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I am now $1,200 poorer for having bought a Wahoo Kickr.

Now I just need a compelling reason to go nowhere fast on it 😉

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [SallyShortyPnts] [ In reply to ]
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SallyShortyPnts wrote:
I am now $1,200 poorer for having bought a Wahoo Kickr.

Now I just need a compelling reason to go nowhere fast on it 😉

Well, there is that little race in May, right?

I like the TT idea.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [adambeston] [ In reply to ]
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Can you define short? Because essentially the Rise and Grind is a 55 minute wringer of a ride. It’s probably the closest to a full hour FTP test that I’ve ever done.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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Something in the 5-15 mile range. My go to is the 10 mile but that's bc a town I lived in did a weekly one and it's 20-30 minutes for most so I can get a warm up and cool down in about an hour or less depending.

I want it to be ITT bc there are plenty of drafting events and I trust the ST crowd a little more. Gonna have to do that weight thing in another thread. Also would be fun to compare a similar course outside in the spring.

Main limiter would be whether people were riding in aero position or not I guess. Could lead to some good data and discussion, possibly.

Also might be easier to do multiple times as the race u mentioned is basically east coast only.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [adambeston] [ In reply to ]
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So, right now, we don’t have races—just group events. It’s just that the structure of the Rise and Grind & Hilly Vanilli rides make them roughly 55 minute 99% efforts.

It’s a question for Dan as to whether races would be something in the future. I tend to think the market needs more group events and structured training versus races, but that’s me.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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U could totally be right. Maybe a monthly 20K or have STers hop into an existing TT. I would just kinda like to see some ST data on indoor to outdoor times. I am slow in Zwift compared to real life (not actual speed, but compared to others).

I know a lot of the difference is handling and aeroness but wonder how it all stacks up.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Hmm. Lots of races, and group rides can be messy (ok, so are races).

Maybe a group ride that focuses on warmup and hitting a few official segments hard. Might be different
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I’d love for a race series that takes place 1x per week, maybe a Tuesday or Wednesday, but mid afternoon. Say a start time of somewhere between 4:30 and 5:30, EST. That allows us to get home from work, grab a snack, warmup, and then race. Dinner as recovery and then we can actually fall asleep that night. I hate morning rides and the afternoon/evening leagues I’ve been able to find are closer to 7 or 8, which puts the end of the race close to 8 or 9... and I can’t sleep if I race hard that close to bed time. Maybe I’m alone, but I’d love to find a race series in that time frame. I’d even be willing to help set things up if we had someone with some experience to guide us.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Toefuzz] [ In reply to ]
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Not that I'm opposed to adding a weekly race to the schedule, but this would be a Tuesday evening event that we'd be competing against: https://zwift.com/events/view/150163

5:05 PM EST start, 22 and change miles, A-D categories. Just to throw out there.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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Is that a series or just a reoccurring race? I like what they are doing with the Wake and Grind Monday morning series where there are points, you're racing against the same people every week etc., it's just too damn early in the morning for me.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Toefuzz] [ In reply to ]
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I honestly don't know if it's a series, but if my memory serves me correctly, this is a recurring event that changes "locations" weekly.

It hurts my soul to wake up at 4:30 for the Rise & Grind, but I know myself - if I don't get up and get it done, I'm not going to get the workout in. So might as well put it to use.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I'd love a weekly TT or some sort of series - after all we are triathletes! Maybe so more people could participate, the time could be different each week - maybe a rotating schedule over the course of a month?? I'd personally love a start around 5 am, but that won't work for all. Distance in the 10-15 mile range could work well, and some could probably use it as a rough FTP test.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [natethomas] [ In reply to ]
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Can i ride a course by myself? Sometimes i find it distracting if i'm riding in the NYC one and there are hundreds of riders everywhere. Occasionally i'd like to ride in the country without a million people everywhere.

I sometimes see screenshots of people riding on courses i've never seen before with no one around. Perhaps it's because they are racing and in first position?

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Is there a way to see the route for a workout? For example, a few weeks ago the Hilly Vanilli did several laps on a course in Central Park, and then hit a climb on the Sky Loop, which I did not see coming.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [blueQuintana] [ In reply to ]
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blueQuintana wrote:
Can i ride a course by myself? Sometimes i find it distracting if i'm riding in the NYC one and there are hundreds of riders everywhere. Occasionally i'd like to ride in the country without a million people everywhere.

I sometimes see screenshots of people riding on courses i've never seen before with no one around. Perhaps it's because they are racing and in first position?

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [brando] [ In reply to ]
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brando wrote:
Is there a way to see the route for a workout? For example, a few weeks ago the Hilly Vanilli did several laps on a course in Central Park, and then hit a climb on the Sky Loop, which I did not see coming.

it's on the web or in Zwift Companion. Not (yet) within Zwift itself.


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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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How come some of the races and group rides that i'm considering racing don't have the length in the detail? Is there a way to find this out? I find it hard to believe that people will join a race/ride without knowing how long it is. Although maybe most people are way more familiar with the routes than I am, so if the race says 4 loops of ______, people just inherently know it's 36km.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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is it possible to select routes available to group rides but not currently to individual riders? for instance, one route in CP allows one to circle around the lower loop on CP (I think they call it the LaGuardia Loop), but it seems to be available only to races/rides, but otherwise unavailable to individual riders.

i'd like to use this route, as it's mostly flat and is good for doing intervals (funny enough, did intervals on the real-life counterpart)
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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How far off is Zwift from making Cycling and Running a seamless format on the current platform? Meaning, when I get off my trainer Bike from a race, group ride or free riding, I can then just throw on my Run shoes and hop on the treadmill next to my trainer without having to restart the whole Zwift platform?

Once this functionality is available, perhaps Slowtwitch could host some Run-Bike-Run duathlon events. I would be extremely interested in these type of events and suspect many others here would be as well. Thanks.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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You can already do that. Just click on the pairing screen and switch to run tab, pair your running devices and click back out and your run avatar will be there. Ditto for back to bike.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [thndrmatt] [ In reply to ]
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thndrmatt wrote:
You can already do that. Just click on the pairing screen and switch to run tab, pair your running devices and click back out and your run avatar will be there. Ditto for back to bike.

Oh cool! Yeah, just tried it and it works. Cool!! Thanks.

So yeah, anyone interested in a duathlon training group or du race?
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Why does my power graph “flatline” when I sprint?
Elite Direto thru Zwift on my iPhone mirrored to a TV. Everything always working as it should except when I sprint. My power graph on the Zwift screen gets to a level and then flatlines like it’s maxed out.....which I know is a joke.....and once I drop my power back below a level.....everything reads fine again??
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I would like to see stage racing. This might be too much for ST to organize on its own but...

Up ton15 teams of 7 or so race like 6 days over a week. One race is a TT. You can sign up and be assigned a team based on category. Teams can pick someone for the GC win or KOM or green jersey. The other riders are domestiques but everyone benefits if their team members win.

Probably too much to ask from ST but I’ve mentioned this to Zwift already so I’m trying to get more people on board.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I would like a legit time trial. In Zwift, that could mean:

- ~20km or ~30 minutes this time of year, monthly perhaps, occasional 40km races
- no drafting
- mix up the course - sometimes flat, sometimes not
- Everyone starts together, but...
- No one can see each other (you're alone in the world for the duration of the race)
- The leader board shows how far off the fastest rider you are

Just a thought...

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Munq E. Wrench] [ In reply to ]
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So there are a couple race series in zwift that hold time trials. They tend to not be highly attended, though maybe a slowtwitch one would change that?
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MRid wrote:
So there are a couple race series in zwift that hold time trials. They tend to not be highly attended, though maybe a slowtwitch one would change that?

How do I find them? Just curious. As far as I can tell, I can't search for "Time Trial" or "TT" or anything at all. I can filter for cycling races and then scroll through an endless list. Is there a more elegant way?

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Munq E. Wrench] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, there's no good way to filter for them. I like to look on Zwiftpower for events as opposed to the companion app. I just use the companion app to sign up for them.

Here's a couple that I found this morning:
https://zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=152011 (there are a couple different time slots for that one)


https://zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=132371 (the norseman winter series is actually well attended. A LOT of climbing though. It's not necessarily advertised as a TT, but draft is turned off, so it essentially is)

https://zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=153879 (also has multiple time slots)


https://zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=154451


https://zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=154536


If you look, you can find others. SZR puts on a couple, so you could always search for them.






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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [brando] [ In reply to ]
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brando wrote:
Is there a way to see the route for a workout? For example, a few weeks ago the Hilly Vanilli did several laps on a course in Central Park, and then hit a climb on the Sky Loop, which I did not see coming.

If you go to the event on zwiftpower you can see the course profile ahead of time.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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it's either I'm doing it wrong or I'm way way way under trained or i'm not in the right group.
I'm at Cat C (based on w/kg, just barely at the top end of C)

the races / events (I attended 2) was way harder than I expected for 30mins ride. It was like dropping the hammer at 140% FTP from the get-go. Ended up you either cycle alone or just hang by the last peloton/group.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [myjunk] [ In reply to ]
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All races start fast, especially if you did a mass start, which most races are. If you do a race where the Cats start separately, they'll still go out hard, but you'll find they seem to settle down faster, as everyone is of similar abilities.

For a mass start races, it somewhat depends on the course, but you'll need to hold around 500 watts+ for the first 10 seconds or so, and 350-400 for the next 20secs or so. Then it starts to settle down a bit, though if you have some A's pushing hard it could string out a bit. (this is especially true on flat courses. On hilly courses the stronger riders will sometimes wait for the first climb to split the pack).

As a C you will almost assuredly get dropped from the lead pack in a mass start at some point (otherwise you wouldn't be a C). The general idea in a mass start is to go out hard, then as you get dropped try to hold the fastest pack you can. For a C, especially a stronger C, you'll probably end up in a mixed pack of B's and C's. At this point you want to do everything you can to stay with this pack.

Obviously all of this is somewhat race and course dependent, but this is the general pattern most races seem to follow. Just remember on the fast start, while you may be hurting, so is everyone else, and it will settle down shortly, try to force your self to hold the wheels in front of you. You'll get a better sense of start dynamics the more you race.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [MRid] [ In reply to ]
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The starts can be absolutely batshit insane.

I went Zwift racing yesterday afternoon for the KISS Choice race. 6 laps with the B's. The first two minutes I averaged 385 watts and still missed the group. I probably needed to hang on for another 15 seconds but I just couldn't quite make the bridge up. I also made two mistakes: 1.) not starting the race with a power-up in reserve, and 2.) using the one power-up I got during the race too early in the final mile. Oh well. Live and learn.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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So, finally put the argon on the kickr...would say that's even my first proper ride on it.

I'm out of shape, a 30 minute workout kicked my ass.

So, I connected my zwift account to both Garmin connect and Strava...how long does it take to sync?

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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Don't know about Garmin, but my Zwift ride/runs sync to strava almost instantly upon completion.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [MRid] [ In reply to ]
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I connected it after the ride, still hasn't uploaded to Strava. Guessing it will next ride?

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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Is it possible to solve the 4 second delay?

So, I have a KICKR Snap running ANT+ to my reasonably quick laptop which is connected to my network over copper and I have a 50 Mbps internet circuit.

Whatever i do with my legs takes my avatar about 4 seconds to react to. None of the in-game settings make any difference. This makes drafting a bit hit and miss and you lose some spontaneity in making moves.

Is this just my system, or is this a constraint of the game and there is no way around it?
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [RCCo] [ In reply to ]
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I've heard other people complain about this as well. I've never experienced it, I'm using PowerTap P1's for my power source. My avatar reacts instantly. It may be that it's device specific, I'm not sure. I haven't gathered if all the people who claim to have experienced this are using the same trainer or not.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [RCCo] [ In reply to ]
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I'm 90% certain it has to do with the ANT+ connection. I run Zwift on an old Windows 7 laptop but with a wired CompuTrainer, and it's damn near instantaneous (so long as the graphics don't lag).

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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sorry, asked this before but didn't see a response:

HOW TO FIND LENGTH OF RACE

How come some of the races and group rides that i'm considering racing don't have the length in the detail? Is there a way to find this out? I find it hard to believe that people will join a race/ride without knowing how long it is. Although maybe most people are way more familiar with the routes than I am, so if the race says 4 loops of ______, people just inherently know it's 36km.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [blueQuintana] [ In reply to ]
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blueQuintana wrote:
sorry, asked this before but didn't see a response:

HOW TO FIND LENGTH OF RACE

How come some of the races and group rides that i'm considering racing don't have the length in the detail? Is there a way to find this out? I find it hard to believe that people will join a race/ride without knowing how long it is. Although maybe most people are way more familiar with the routes than I am, so if the race says 4 loops of ______, people just inherently know it's 36km.

I have found that quote annoying as well. The only work around I have been able to do is see what is the Loop or Route name and then look at the details in ZwiftInsider - example: https://zwiftinsider.com/watopia-flat-route/
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [blueQuintana] [ In reply to ]
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The easiest answer is ZwiftPower, they display the length of events.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [MRid] [ In reply to ]
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....what is Zwift Power? I know i should probably know but i'm confused.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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So, I've done two 30 minute structured workouts and they kicked my ass. Granted I haven't been on the bike in a hot minute...but I'd say Zwift training is insane.

What are normal routes like? How can zwift either add cities or add routes per se?

ETA: did a regular London route for 40 minutes today, it was still a butt kicker...but not a ball kicker. I think I'll stay away from structured workouts for a bit.

I'd only done two zwift rides before last week and didn't like the limited graphics package in the program...but I have to tell you, overall I'm pretty pleased. Now, how does one build a ride to mirror a course?

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TheStroBro wrote:
So, I've done two 30 minute structured workouts and they kicked my ass. Granted I haven't been on the bike in a hot minute...but I'd say Zwift training is insane.

What are normal routes like? How can zwift either add cities or add routes per se?

ETA: did a regular London route for 40 minutes today, it was still a butt kicker...but not a ball kicker. I think I'll stay away from structured workouts for a bit.

I'd only done two zwift rides before last week and didn't like the limited graphics package in the program...but I have to tell you, overall I'm pretty pleased. Now, how does one build a ride to mirror a course?

I haven't done it, but if you find a .gpx file for the course you want, you can create a custom workout and import it that way. I'm sure there is lots more info in the zwift forums.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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 Zwifts decision to leverage Norseman’s brand is brilliant. Only a matter of time until Zwift (or Garmin) partner with Ironman to fully transform the online experience. - In my opinion.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Mike J] [ In reply to ]
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One question and a request...

1. Is there a way to choose where to start on a course? For example, sometimes I have a hill workout and would love to do it on the Alpe du Zwift but I don't have time to ride to the bottom of the climb. Can I jump to that spot somehow?

2. Could we please have longer "Rider's Choice" rides? I often have a long workout with a series of zone targets within the ride. It is hard to set up the custom program when the watts will vary so much. I would have to have an open time Rider's Choice option.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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What’s the warranty on our Zwift ST kits? I came upon a fellow Slowrwitcher today riding Alpe du Zwift that unfortunately seems to have split the seam of their bib shorts.



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thechromedome wrote:
What’s the warranty on our Zwift ST kits? I came upon a fellow Slowrwitcher today riding Alpe du Zwift that unfortunately seems to have split the seam of their bib shorts.



Cheers,

they're warranted to last until level 12. after that you're on your own. you guys also chose the same socks?

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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There aren’t many socks available that match our kit. Or maybe they don’t become available til level 48.....

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [thechromedome] [ In reply to ]
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Trying the zwift trial, can anyone explain why I'm getting my taxc flux as a cadence source and a power source but not as "controllable". It doesn't seem like the resistance changes at all, I'm just spinning around at 200w and my character experience speed difference.
I don't have a ant+ USB dongle
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I hope I can ask a technical question here. I'd like to dig into my Zwift experiences of late.

1. I have a controllable trainer, it's paired, ERG mode is not on by default. If I log in to "ride" I can turn it on under the workout menu but it doesn't seem to remain on once I "join event", ie ST's ride tonight or any of the other 2 group workouts I frequent. I'm unable to turn it on either, via the companion ap. What I see there is a greyed out "pause" button that doesn't let me select it.

Prior to Zwift moving to the choose-your-world format, I was logging in, free riding to warm up my tire/trainer, doing in-game calibration using the pairing screen, and then joining the workout event with ERG mode automatically engaged. It worked swell. One day I was dragging and hit the pause button on the companion ap to stop ERG mode; it has not worked since then.

- Anyone know how I can get ERG mode to work again?

2. About the choose-your-world business. Is everyone else experiencing real clunkiness now, if they have earlier signed up for a group ride/workout event? As mentioned above, I like to free ride to warm up my parts for the spindown, partly because I like to accumulate more points in order to level up, and partly because it sometimes takes a long time to get Zwift going since it waits until you hit "Let's Go" to actually apply an update, ergo best to not leave launch til 5 min before event start. However if I'm within about 25 minutes of the group event starting, it's kinda difficult to get Zwift to do what I want vs it wanting to put me into the pen. Is this going to get smoother?

- Anyone know how long ahead of a group event I can easily log in to free ride before experiencing the "event is starting!" take-over?

Details, if it matters: Game via PC, Companion Ap via Android, Controllable trainer is Wahoo Snap V1, no other blue tooth connections to the Snap. Thanks!

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Couple of things:

I’m in the “accelerated” phase of leveling given the many months since I reached 25. Unless I am mistaken, you level up faster in “just ride” mode, than in a structured session. Curious if you or other have noticed.

Also, bummer you’ve now scrambling w/kg of others when they are close enough, although I understand why :)

Finally liking Zwift running. Only issue is that it’s on my phone and I run with contacts and no reading glasses (sigh) and I can’t see a damn thing.
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mmiloou wrote:
Trying the zwift trial, can anyone explain why I'm getting my taxc flux as a cadence source and a power source but not as "controllable". It doesn't seem like the resistance changes at all, I'm just spinning around at 200w and my character experience speed difference.
I don't have a ant+ USB dongle
Taxc Flux - Quarq Riken (not being call upon) - android phone (does BL & ant+) - companion app from the phone - old macbook
Your old macbook probably doesn't have bluetooth smart 4.0. You need to pair the tacx flux to your bluetooth phone via the companion app and use the companion app to bridge to the computer https://support.zwift.com/...e-cycling--S1xnpAdrX
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I've been Zwifting lately on my road bike with just a Wahoo Speed and Cadence sensor. I've inputted my trainer type and wheel size. It works, but the estimated power is way too high. (I've used it before with another bike that has a power meter.) The estimated power is so high I've stopped using it out of guilt. It just doesn't feel right to effortlessly lay down 300 watts and speed past others. (I'm just glad Marathon Investigations hasn't turned its attention to Zwifters.)

Is there a way to re-calibrate estimated power?
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Celerius] [ In reply to ]
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What trainer? Are you sure you selected the correct one for virtual power? I assume it’s a wheel on trainer, how tight are you turning the knob? Are you checking air pressure in the rear tire regularly? Virtual power can work just fine for training and riding on Zwift, but you need to make sure you get the right conditions for bike and trainer setup the same each ride.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Hi, do you know if I can use the Zwift Runpod with my 920xt outside? I don't currently have an active subscription to Zwift.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [RCCo] [ In reply to ]
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Is it possible to solve the 4 second delay?

So, I have a KICKR Snap running ANT+ to my reasonably quick laptop which is connected to my network over copper and I have a 50 Mbps internet circuit.

Whatever i do with my legs takes my avatar about 4 seconds to react to. None of the in-game settings make any difference. This makes drafting a bit hit and miss and you lose some spontaneity in making moves.

Is this just my system, or is this a constraint of the game and there is no way around it?

This reply is a couple weeks late, because apparently I don't read the sticky threads often enough.

My tri bike has a quarq and my road bike has a P2M. Both are ant+ only. I've ridden both in Zwift regularly using the same non-smart fluid trainer and PC for the past few years. The quarq reacts in Zwift instantly. The P2M has about a 2 or 3 second delay. That tells me it's device specific and not an ant+ related issue. The delay makes reacting to surges on the road bike (P2M) in race more challenging. After a while, I realized that I need to push more watts just prior to any incline...to guard against the innevitable surge.

Similarly, I tend to ride off the front of the group more with the P2M. This is especially true if I am working to get to the front of a pack. I shut the power down as I approach the leader, but my little guy keeps pushing for a few more seconds. The next thing I know, I'm off the front hitting the wind. Then the lack of draft and reduced watts kick in and and I float to the back again, having to surge for a few seconds to avoid getting dropped. I've somewhat gotten used to the delay now and with a little concentration can usually stay in the pack.

Although, it's much easier to keep the surges to a minimum with the instantaneous response of the quarq.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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On a group ride with a set watt range and a leader with a beacon, does anyone feel it's easier to stay in the 0-40 meters ahead of the beacon rather than behind?
If I'm ahead of the beacon/leader, it seems much easier to stay with the pace. If I'm behind the ride leader, it seems so easy to get spit out the back or I have to ride above the pace.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [MarioTB] [ In reply to ]
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MarioTB wrote:
Hi, do you know if I can use the Zwift Runpod with my 920xt outside? I don't currently have an active subscription to Zwift.

Nope. The 920XT does not support Bluetooth sensors.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [damn lucky] [ In reply to ]
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damn lucky wrote:
On a group ride with a set watt range and a leader with a beacon, does anyone feel it's easier to stay in the 0-40 meters ahead of the beacon rather than behind?
If I'm ahead of the beacon/leader, it seems much easier to stay with the pace. If I'm behind the ride leader, it seems so easy to get spit out the back or I have to ride above the pace.

I think that may just be from the "surge" effect. No one want's to be spit off the back so they seem to always push to be ahead of the beacon....hence the surge....especially if the beacon rides toward the front. I notice that when the beaconed rider goes toward the front of a group, there is an immediate surge and increase in watts. That is just my observation though.....
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [FFigawi] [ In reply to ]
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Time to ditch it then. Would the 935 do it?
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Add more run events. 6.2k and up.

I try to get into zwift running but they have such limited events. High majority end at 8pm. Not sure why. Typically I do not enter my workout room until 9pm. Without events, I'd rather watch a movie. Even if the events were one or two people, I don't care. It keeps me on the treadmill.

The running social media groups all tried Zwift hoping for structured training group runs. They've all abandoned Zwift.

If Zwift started charging for the run feature it would die a quick death. Right now I wouldn't pay $.01 a month. lol.

So please, add some run events.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I have over 1 million drops on Zwift. I am at level 14. I go into my garage and can not get into the Drop Shop. Why not?
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Ktri] [ In reply to ]
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Nevermind. I guess you can't get into it from the user customization page. You have to pause/end ride to get in.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Has anyone else seen this?
I have only done a few rides in workout mode but every time I notice what seems to be the terrain changes "leaking" into the workout. By that I mean on a downhill I will have to shift to a bigger (harder) gear to keep the watts up and sometimes I get the opposite effect on climbs but to a lesser extent. This does not happen consistently but seems to happen more toward the end of the workout. I was under the impression that the workout mode controlled the trainer and disregarded grade changes.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [rrutis] [ In reply to ]
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Can we get a Cornish flag?
We have Irish, Welsh, Scottish, English but no Cornish even though Cornwall is its own distinct part of the UK.

It's a simple white cross on a black background.

Thanks.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [rrutis] [ In reply to ]
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rrutis wrote:
Has anyone else seen this?
I have only done a few rides in workout mode but every time I notice what seems to be the terrain changes "leaking" into the workout. By that I mean on a downhill I will have to shift to a bigger (harder) gear to keep the watts up and sometimes I get the opposite effect on climbs but to a lesser extent. This does not happen consistently but seems to happen more toward the end of the workout. I was under the impression that the workout mode controlled the trainer and disregarded grade changes.

rich

What trainer are you using? I thought I was going mad, but I think I get this on my NEO. I put it down to the motor on the neo powering the downhill.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Signal8] [ In reply to ]
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Signal8 wrote:
RCCo wrote:
Is it possible to solve the 4 second delay?

So, I have a KICKR Snap running ANT+ to my reasonably quick laptop which is connected to my network over copper and I have a 50 Mbps internet circuit.

Whatever i do with my legs takes my avatar about 4 seconds to react to. None of the in-game settings make any difference. This makes drafting a bit hit and miss and you lose some spontaneity in making moves.

Is this just my system, or is this a constraint of the game and there is no way around it?

This reply is a couple weeks late, because apparently I don't read the sticky threads often enough.

My tri bike has a quarq and my road bike has a P2M. Both are ant+ only. I've ridden both in Zwift regularly using the same non-smart fluid trainer and PC for the past few years. The quarq reacts in Zwift instantly. The P2M has about a 2 or 3 second delay. That tells me it's device specific and not an ant+ related issue. The delay makes reacting to surges on the road bike (P2M) in race more challenging. After a while, I realized that I need to push more watts just prior to any incline...to guard against the innevitable surge.

Similarly, I tend to ride off the front of the group more with the P2M. This is especially true if I am working to get to the front of a pack. I shut the power down as I approach the leader, but my little guy keeps pushing for a few more seconds. The next thing I know, I'm off the front hitting the wind. Then the lack of draft and reduced watts kick in and and I float to the back again, having to surge for a few seconds to avoid getting dropped. I've somewhat gotten used to the delay now and with a little concentration can usually stay in the pack.

Although, it's much easier to keep the surges to a minimum with the instantaneous response of the quarq.

update on this:

i bought a Bluetooth dongle and peer through my phone now. This has solved the problem. My avatar now responds instantly. Cadence still takes 3 or 4 seconds because that is still Ant+, but that's no problem.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Duncan74] [ In reply to ]
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I'm using a CycleOps Magnus trainer so no motor on the downhills.

If you're seeing this too though, that means they're letting the terrain changes bleed through into workout mode, right?
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Slowman, since you said "ask me anything"...

I have a 4th gen apple tv with the zwift app, an iphone 8 with Zwift companion app, a Quarq Riken (ant+) powermeter on my S5, and a dumb Kurt Kinetic trainer. I'm all logged into the apps, but the AppleTV app won't sense my power meter when I boot up and hit the "search for sensors" screen. Is that because my Quarq isn't bluetooth? Do you or @rappstar, or any readers, know of any ways to get the ANT+ power meter to connect? I don't have a good enough laptop (except my work computer which I can't use), so I'm relegated to the above hardware.

I've reached out direct to zwift but i imagine they've got their hands full these days.
thanks
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [dongustav] [ In reply to ]
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Slowman, since you said "ask me anything"...

I have a 4th gen apple tv with the zwift app, an iphone 8 with Zwift companion app, a Quarq Riken (ant+) powermeter on my S5, and a dumb Kurt Kinetic trainer. I'm all logged into the apps, but the AppleTV app won't sense my power meter when I boot up and hit the "search for sensors" screen. Is that because my Quarq isn't bluetooth? Do you or @rappstar, or any readers, know of any ways to get the ANT+ power meter to connect? I don't have a good enough laptop (except my work computer which I can't use), so I'm relegated to the above hardware. I've reached out direct to zwift but i imagine they've got their hands full these days. thanks

when you say you have a "4th gen appletv", i don't know what that means exactly, but, is it an appletv 4k? and the critical part of this is the 4k. this is part of the name of the device. appletv 4k.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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You don't need the 4k version. His version (4th gen) works with zwift, it's currently what I'm using.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [dongustav] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, you have to connect through your phone or appletv with a bluetooth power signal.

It looks like there's a standalone device that will convert your ant+ signal to bluetooth, but I don't have any experience with it.

https://www.google.com/...=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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Sean H wrote:
You don't need the 4k version. His version (4th gen) works with zwift, it's currently what I'm using.

zwift, and our editors, are pretty adamant that the 4k version is required. but if it's working for you then i guess it works. i don't know anything about the 4th gen. as to why it won't pick up a signal, i'm out of my wheelhouse.

i would just say this. the user wrote that he has a "Quarq Riken (ant+)" power meter. as far as i know, appletv only picks up a BLE signal. so, unless the quarq sends a BLE signal, the appletv won't pick that up. i believe that most quarqs send signals using both communication protocols, but if the riken is only sending an ANT+ signal, this could be the problem.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Slowman wrote:
Sean H wrote:
You don't need the 4k version. His version (4th gen) works with zwift, it's currently what I'm using.


zwift, and our editors, are pretty adamant that the 4k version is required. but if it's working for you then i guess it works. i don't know anything about the 4th gen. as to why it won't pick up a signal, i'm out of my wheelhouse.

i would just say this. the user wrote that he has a "Quarq Riken (ant+)" power meter. as far as i know, appletv only picks up a BLE signal. so, unless the quarq sends a BLE signal, the appletv won't pick that up. i believe that most quarqs send signals using both communication protocols, but if the riken is only sending an ANT+ signal, this could be the problem.


Straight from the zwift website




https://support.zwift.com/...-run-zwift-H1Cj9QbeB


Yes his problem is his powermeter isn't transmitting in bluetooth.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Seems like everyone is a big fan of Zwift. As a comparison, have you tried Rouvy and if so, what did you like/dislike about it? I have not tried Zwift, but I am a fan of Rouvy. I like the real world high def view of where I am. I'm able to ride routes I rode as a kid and see exactly what it's like now, not animated. I know I have not scratched the surface of it's capabilities, but I seem to get features and data I'd expect. The search feature stinks, but I'm not looking for tons of routes either.

Fair disclosure, I'm using this on dumb rollers with speed and cadence sensors, so I'm not experiencing the gradient changes others are with their smart trainers. I don't need to know exact watts or ftp, but the readings seem pretty consistent and repeatable, so it's close enough for me.

thanks for any feedback and stay well
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Barry S.] [ In reply to ]
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So I signed up for zwiftpower.com after completing a race. anyway to have my result added in still?


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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Barry S.] [ In reply to ]
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Zwift is social...and that is all you need to know. There are any number of road simulator programs and/or hard core training platforms that do things Zwift can't. But Zwift allows you to ride and race with real people in virtual space which is something no one else is really offering.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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You could go on the zwiftpower forums and ask to be added, they are pretty good about listening to people. But, I wouldn’t worry about it too much, just do some more races! 😁
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Barry S.] [ In reply to ]
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Barry S. wrote:
Seems like everyone is a big fan of Zwift. As a comparison, have you tried Rouvy and if so, what did you like/dislike about it?

see, this is where it pays to know we have a front page. where we post articles. where 5 of those below are ONLY about rouvy, and where i spent a large chunk of an article just written about virtual racing talking about how i predict that ironman will partner with rouvy for its virtual events.



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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks - must be the BLE vs Ant+ that is the issue. My Quarq is circa 2017 i think, and only the new ones broadcast both signals. I'll see if I can convert somehow. thanks all.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [dongustav] [ In reply to ]
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dongustav wrote:
Thanks - must be the BLE vs Ant+ that is the issue. My Quarq is circa 2017 i think, and only the new ones broadcast both signals. I'll see if I can convert somehow. thanks all.


there's a bunch of ANT+ dongles. now, what i do NOT have, but what you MAY have in the back of your appletv is a free USB port. i ask myself whether there's a dongle one might use for an appletv that has a USB port. otherwise, as a possible solution, from the folks who make the RUNN that i just wrote about:



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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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no USB on the back of the Apple TV unfortunately. Wish all my rugrats weren't clogging up the computers with their "distance learning," or else I'd use the Ant+ dongle with a laptop. I just bought the Cable Ant+>BTE converter recommended above, I'll try that and report back.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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This is more of a Companion App question. Is there any ability to save or mark as a "favorite" rides or races?
Some rides/races are definitely better than others...but I always forget which ones I prefer. Is there a way to tag or mark rides/races to a list? It would be nice if I could look each week at a favorites list to see a list and make look to make my schedule work for "preferred" rides.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [blueQuintana] [ In reply to ]
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blueQuintana wrote:
Can i ride a course by myself? Sometimes i find it distracting if i'm riding in the NYC one and there are hundreds of riders everywhere. Occasionally i'd like to ride in the country without a million people everywhere.

Sure, it's called Rouvy.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [MKirk] [ In reply to ]
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MKirk wrote:
This is more of a Companion App question. Is there any ability to save or mark as a "favorite" rides or races?
Some rides/races are definitely better than others...but I always forget which ones I prefer. Is there a way to tag or mark rides/races to a list? It would be nice if I could look each week at a favorites list to see a list and make look to make my schedule work for "preferred" rides.

boy i don't know. perhaps others here can help.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [MKirk] [ In reply to ]
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No, I’m pretty sure there isn’t

On zwiftpower they have a pretty extensive filter list. Favorites isn’t one of them, but you can filter by series, which may or may not help you. They have several other filters as well.

Edit: You can also see your ride/race history on zwiftpower which may help jog your memory of which rides you like
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I got passed by Alistair Brownlee a couple of days ago on Zwift. He usually waves but I had my sunglasses on so he didn't recognize me.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I just thought of another feature they could add that would be really nice.

With covid19, a lot of us are now utilizing the "meet up" feature, specifically using the "keep everyone together" option. It allows you to ride with your buddies even if everyone is doing a different workout.

On the main screen when you login, it always gives you the option to join someone you follow who is already riding. But you don't stick together unless you ride similar w/kg. It would be cool if you could do this and be banded together via "keep everyone together" option. Since some people may not want to be joined, it would have to be an option left up to the original rider. A simple selection on the main screen: "do you want to allow riders to join you?" Then when people join you while you're already riding, you could then be "kept together." This would also allow people who are a minute or two late to a meetup to still join (which they can't as of right now).

Wish there was a way to tag Jordan

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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My Zwift musings:

-There needs to be more sub-classes of racing in the A/B area. There's a huge difference between someone who can ring out 4w/kg a couple times and the bigger boys. I admit to the sin of making my weight heavier by a kg or two and racing B.

-For tri/TT folks they need to add more purchasable kit at more reasonable game levels. It shouldn't take "infinity level" to get a TT helmet. C'mon. Add a few TT helmets and skinsuits at reasonable levels.

-It would be really freaking cool if somehow in the deep future a Zwift camera could see your position on the bike (road or TT) and infer a rough CdA. Cause, ain't no way in hell some of those folks are going to hold positions like the avatar show them in real life. They could for the TT bike leave it to the rider to use the skis and have the rider input their fit coordinates to get a rough but better CdA idea.

-I know there's lots of "ride with pros" options out there right now. But, I still feel pro bike teams in particular are losing out big time on a marketing and fanfare opportunity in Zwift. Rubber band the pro team workouts and group rides. I follow the pro team our company sponsors, even with the suggestion they've never done a Zwift group ride or workout despite posting tons of their riders doing Zwift right now in isolation. C'mon. Reminds me a bit of some of the F1 drivers refusing to ride online with people because "they don't know the game system well enough". Well, we've nothing to cheer right now, so give us something to cheer.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [burnthesheep] [ In reply to ]
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burnthesheep wrote:

-I know there's lots of "ride with pros" options out there right now. But, I still feel pro bike teams in particular are losing out big time on a marketing and fanfare opportunity in Zwift. Rubber band the pro team workouts and group rides. I follow the pro team our company sponsors, even with the suggestion they've never done a Zwift group ride or workout despite posting tons of their riders doing Zwift right now in isolation. C'mon. Reminds me a bit of some of the F1 drivers refusing to ride online with people because "they don't know the game system well enough". Well, we've nothing to cheer right now, so give us something to cheer.

We're not pros, but our tri team has tried to setup group rides on zwift to do just that, but haven't been successful. We have just been doing "meet ups" with whoever on our team wants to join as well as their friends. If anyone wants to ride with us, let us know!

Or if Dan would be up for letting us lead a slowtwitch ride or two we'd be up for that too!

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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Sean H wrote:
burnthesheep wrote:


-I know there's lots of "ride with pros" options out there right now. But, I still feel pro bike teams in particular are losing out big time on a marketing and fanfare opportunity in Zwift. Rubber band the pro team workouts and group rides. I follow the pro team our company sponsors, even with the suggestion they've never done a Zwift group ride or workout despite posting tons of their riders doing Zwift right now in isolation. C'mon. Reminds me a bit of some of the F1 drivers refusing to ride online with people because "they don't know the game system well enough". Well, we've nothing to cheer right now, so give us something to cheer.


We're not pros, but our tri team has tried to setup group rides on zwift to do just that, but haven't been successful. We have just been doing "meet ups" with whoever on our team wants to join as well as their friends. If anyone wants to ride with us, let us know!

Or if Dan would be up for letting us lead a slowtwitch ride or two we'd be up for that too!

i would be happy to have you lead some of our events. you'll want to talk to me, and to ryan, who's on the forum here. ryan takes the lead on our zwift calendar, with me back seat driving. you should either email or PM one of us.

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What is the experience like on Zwift forvthose on dumb trainers ?

I've tried Zwift on a Wahoo but Ihave Tacx Blue Motion trainer ?
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whats the turn around time for the under 16 account to be established. I registered for my little girl Monday and still waiting like prob everyone else in the world :D

thanks :D

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Hollywood_USAF wrote:
whats the turn around time for the under 16 account to be established. I registered for my little girl Monday and still waiting like prob everyone else in the world :D

don't know anything about this. let me find out.

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Slowman wrote:
Hollywood_USAF wrote:
whats the turn around time for the under 16 account to be established. I registered for my little girl Monday and still waiting like prob everyone else in the world :D


don't know anything about this. let me find out.

Many thanks Sir

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cowboy7 wrote:
What is the experience like on Zwift for those on dumb trainers ? I've tried Zwift on a Wahoo but I have Tacx Blue Motion trainer?

others can correct me if i'm wrong. obviously the experience gets better as the tech gets better. the absolute best experience i've had so far on zwift is on the Wahoo Kickr Bike. but that's top of the heap. i'm going to spend some time on both the Saris platform, and on the Tacx NEO Bike, which i just built up yesterday. and then i'll be prepared for some model-by-model shootouts.

below that - and by far the bulk of my experience - is just the typical smart trainer. you should be able to get those in the $700 to $800, and i believe, unless they're sold out, wahoo has a kickr refurb deal on right now in that price range. saris and wahoo, and elite, should all have deals of some sort in that price range if you nose around and are even a little patient.

dumb trainers, fine, assuming you don't max out the watts of the trainer. what you cannot do on that is to have zwift control the difficulty. you have to do that yourself, through gearing. in other words, you can't be riding along and all of a sudden it gets easier - without you changing gears - because the "road" on which you're riding begins to descend. what does happen, tho, is zwift senses the power you're producing, and if you make no change in your power then you'll speed up as the road pitches down.

what you'll need, tho, is a way to transmit your power to zwift. best way is via a power meter. but if you don't have a power meter on your bike, then there's the speed & cadence sensor. that's maybe $60, all in? that device makes a pretty good guess at your power, and that's what tells zwift what you're doing, which is translated to your avatar on zwift.

i have zero experience riding zwift on a dumb trainer. i suspect it's fine. much, much better than riding in front of reruns of the honeymooners.

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Any idea if/when Zwift running will show power on screen? It's frustrating to be running with a Stryd footpod, and have to have my Garmin 935 running in parallel to see power. I know that Zwift gets the data from the footpod because when the run is uploaded from Zwift to Strava and Training Peaks the power data is all in there. This has been a pretty highly requested feature on their forums, so I'm struggling to understand why it hasn't yet been added, as it seems ot be as simple as adding a data field on the screen (that already exists in cycling mode).
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cowboy7 wrote:
What is the experience like on Zwift forvthose on dumb trainers ?

I've tried Zwift on a Wahoo but Ihave Tacx Blue Motion trainer ?

It's not bad. I was on a Cycleops Fluid for a few years with Zwift. I was much better climbing on the roads after my time with this set up-I was climbing moderate grades at a higher cadence.

My Fluid finally crapped out and I got a Direto on a good deal and the Zwift experience, overall, is better. If I had a good dumb trainer and didn't need to replace it, I wouldn't...

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cowboy7 wrote:
What is the experience like on Zwift forvthose on dumb trainers ?

I've tried Zwift on a Wahoo but Ihave Tacx Blue Motion trainer ?

Like the poster above, I also did Zwift on a fluid trainer for a while. It's enough to keep you engaged on shorter workouts.

Now, experience not necessarily being worth it? I think it boils down to how nice a smart trainer you can afford. If it is one with good flywheel or virtual flywheel weight and responds quickly and accurately...........oh yeah it is worth it.

I got tired of with the dumb trainer not really being able to do group stuff and feel the draft effect. I'd just keep hitting it and bouncing fore-aft off the front person or few. Now with smart trainer, I can actually sit-in and stuff.

Also, even on a trainer with modest max % grade, it's a lot more fun to climb with a constantly changing resistance making your body be more dynamic to adapt to the changes in cadence, gearing, out of saddle, etc.....

My next upgrade will be a DIY rocker plate to make more than 90min physically less demanding on my rear end. If I fix that, I could see doing 2 and 3 hr rides indoors.

On the fluid? Never, Zwift or not, would I ride a fluid more than like 45min.

I also briefly had a wheel-on trainer in the Kickr Snap, but killed it in two rides. It was a refurb unit of the "bad years". Now on a new serial # batch Core direct drive, and that thing feels great even compared to the Snap. The Snap was good. But still, the direct drive is amazing. DCRainmaker says this also. That the direct drive just makes the experience.

I didn't want to fart around either with having to swap a trainer wheel around from road/TT bike all the time.

Also, the fluid caused issues because I own one power meter my road/TT bike share. Got tired of swapping it.
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el gato wrote:
Any idea if/when Zwift running will show power on screen? It's frustrating to be running with a Stryd footpod, and have to have my Garmin 935 running in parallel to see power. I know that Zwift gets the data from the footpod because when the run is uploaded from Zwift to Strava and Training Peaks the power data is all in there. This has been a pretty highly requested feature on their forums, so I'm struggling to understand why it hasn't yet been added, as it seems ot be as simple as adding a data field on the screen (that already exists in cycling mode).

i'll ask.

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Slowman wrote:

i'll ask.

Thank you sir!
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Slowman wrote:
cowboy7 wrote:
What is the experience like on Zwift for those on dumb trainers ? I've tried Zwift on a Wahoo but I have Tacx Blue Motion trainer?

others can correct me if i'm wrong. obviously the experience gets better as the tech gets better. the absolute best experience i've had so far on zwift is on the Wahoo Kickr Bike. but that's top of the heap. i'm going to spend some time on both the Saris platform, and on the Tacx NEO Bike, which i just built up yesterday. and then i'll be prepared for some model-by-model shootouts.

below that - and by far the bulk of my experience - is just the typical smart trainer. you should be able to get those in the $700 to $800, and i believe, unless they're sold out, wahoo has a kickr refurb deal on right now in that price range. saris and wahoo, and elite, should all have deals of some sort in that price range if you nose around and are even a little patient.

dumb trainers, fine, assuming you don't max out the watts of the trainer. what you cannot do on that is to have zwift control the difficulty. you have to do that yourself, through gearing. in other words, you can't be riding along and all of a sudden it gets easier - without you changing gears - because the "road" on which you're riding begins to descend. what does happen, tho, is zwift senses the power you're producing, and if you make no change in your power then you'll speed up as the road pitches down.

what you'll need, tho, is a way to transmit your power to zwift. best way is via a power meter. but if you don't have a power meter on your bike, then there's the speed & cadence sensor. that's maybe $60, all in? that device makes a pretty good guess at your power, and that's what tells zwift what you're doing, which is translated to your avatar on zwift.

i have zero experience riding zwift on a dumb trainer. i suspect it's fine. much, much better than riding in front of reruns of the honeymooners.

Thanks Dan

I have to admit my Tacx is taking up space in the kitchen but has barely been used.

I've got a cadence sensor and the USB device.

I've spent ages poring over reviews but really not sure if even a smart trainer would also end up gathering dust !

Saris H2 are now about the same price as Suito

In the UK I think trainers have become scarce like toilet roll !
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