I use it, and it's fine. I have to use the companion app simultaneously because you can only hook up 1 bluetooth sensor to the appletv at once though. (I have quarq, tacx neo & hr monitor).

It works good, no particular problem. It's better to use with the Zwift companion app given the limit on total available bluetooth connection.And no ANT+

I can definitely vouch for the CABLE. I have one and love it. It is reliable and does exactly what I need it to.

I also use Zwift on an apple TV, but I have never used a computer for Zwift so it is all I know. I assume you will loose some control going to an apple TV. The biggest complaint about the apple TV is the remote and that complaint extends to controlling Zwift. Using the remote, I can use boosts, turn, start workouts, etc. but somethings like giving Ride Ons, I have not figured out how to do. I also have trouble moving through the menus efficiently, but with enough fudging I can get what I want.

Can you use your own customized workouts on zwift when running through the app on the Apple TV? I'm just wondering how one would load those in to use.

I believe so, but I have not actually completed a workout. I loaded in a custom workout on my computer and was able to see it on Zwift, but then ended up doing the workout in trainerroad instead... Perhaps someone else can weigh in with more experience with it.

I also use Zwift on Apple TV, and it works fine. You will of course need a tv/monitor to run it on. As others have suggested you should use the companion app, which is what I do (kickr + HRM connect directly to the Apple TV bluetooth, cadence sensor through my phone/the app). The Apple TV remote can be annoying to use but most of what you need while riding can be accomplished through the companion app.


Make sure your wi-fi connection is good. My setup is out in the garage and a ways from the wireless router, and I had some problems with network drops which will really frustrate you. I bought a wireless mesh network for my house which solved all my problems.


I didn't already have a computer that could run Zwift, so overall I think Apple TV is a good value.

Yes, you can do this by creating the workout in TrainingPeaks, as the easiest way with AppleTV.

If running Zwift from a computer, there is a way to load a native Zwift workout AFAIK, but TrainingPeaks integrations is pretty straightforward.

I've been running Zwift on an AppleTV for about a year now. I do have the CABLE so that I can send HR and other Ant data through BT to the Zwift app and have it display on the screen.

FWIW, my wife who hates the trainer normally finally put in a solid winter of bike training as she really enjoyed the ability to ride structured workouts through Zwift and the "gamification" of the riding experience that it delivers.

One tip specific to AppleTV that I found, is it's best to 'force quit' the Zwift app between rides, especially if you have multiple riders or equipment.

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Another 👍 for zwift on Apple TV. I also use Cable to connect HR and cadence and such. 3 times a week I do my trainerroad workout and run them on zwift simultaneously. It has been way more enjoyable than trying to watch a movie while killing myself with trainerroad. Once a week I’ll sign up for a race on zwift. Which is awesome and fun and I always feel destroyed after one of those but it’s the ride i look forward to the most in a week.
But trainerroad on zwift makes it so i can look forward to biking indoors and completing the trainerroad workouts each week.

Considering Apple TV for a dedicated Zwift setup, currently using an old laptop that has some issues. Is it a simple and seamless experience, and are there any issues giving up a keyboard? I gather you use the companion app for most controls, but what about switching users and so forth? And the CABLE bridge is seamless?

It works really well. I have a first gen AppleTv and the screen mirror kept dropping. I tried the HDMI cable via iphone adapter and it drained the phone battery really quickly. Like 100% charged to 10% in an hour, so i said F-it and bought the new AppleTV. It is seamless. And now my phone is freed up to have Zwift Companion app up as well as stream music to a bluetooth speaker.

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Zwift on AppleTV is pretty seamless. Very easy to get started. I also run the companion app on my phone and find it drains the battery pretty fast so I try and have it plugged in while I ride.

Like has been mentioned above, it’s good to force quit the app in between uses as often it has trouble loading after a day or two if it’s been left open and the AppleTV has gone to sleep.

My choice was 4k 55”Tv + gaming rig, cant go back to apple tv :)

the thing is to run it on a newer 4k appletv. in fact, i'm getting another one, and will dedicate 1 to bike and 1 to run. a 4k appletv is $179.

then i run the companion app on my iphone, but i think i'm going to see if i can rig a stand for a tablet and run it on that. in any case, i haven't found a better solution than appletv for zwift. i've run it on a desktop and laptop macOS, iOS, android, windows 10, and appletv is the easiest, slickest setup.

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How many sensors can you connect when using the Cable?

I have a 4iiii Viiiiva which I use to connect my P1 pedals to Zwift and Sufferfest on my iPad and wondered if you can get all of the sensors connected by using the Viiiiva.

With the cable I connect my cadence sensor, HR monitor strap, and my wahoo kickr to zwift.

Hmm. My zwift companion app does not drain that much power.

what is the CABLE ?

https://www.google.com/...wK90-XcaAvzREALw_wcB

This is the best setup.
I started Zwift with Powertap hub to ANT USB to computer.
Ok but you really need a Smart trainer for Zwift to be effective.
Upgraded to a Saris Hammer, connected to Computer via ANT USB. Which I ran to a 55in TV.
I thought I was in the game, until it kept dropping 45 minutes into a workout. Thank goodness I was not doing races, just interval workouts.

After this happened 5 or 6 times I spoke to a friend who worked at Zwift. They had the same issues with their kicker.

The solution was Apple TV. In over a year I have not been dropped or frozen once.

My setup is Hammer > Apple tv via Bluetooth > Samsung TV.

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Zwift via a 4K AppleTV works great. I use the Cable as well. One thing to note is the app for programming it is only available on Apple products. So unless you have an iPhone/iPad you can't configure it or change it from one person to another (if you have a significant other or someone else that would also use it). Mine also seems to over state cadence pretty significantly. Like 25% or so. But I don't really pay attention to the cadence on Zwift it's self so never bother trying to figure that out and ended up turning cadence off on the Cable.

I just upgraded from a CyclOps Magnus to a Tacx Neo 2T, and the companion app is no longer needed. All three trainer boxes plus HR come through the Apple TV now. Companion app wasn't hard to use, but it drained my phone on longer rides.

Something else I have done is to install Zwift on an older laptop, that is way too under-powered to actually run Zwift. I do this because if you copy a downloaded ZWO workout from anywhere, and drop it into the correct folder, it magically shows up as a workout on the Apple TV. It's also good to use when changing stuff in the "Garage" because it's a lot easier to use with a mouse than that jumpy Apple remote.

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thank you

I used it and it works fine. I also have the CABLE and that has been fine as well. My husband uses a Windows machine and he gets caught in update hell. I do not ;-)

I really dislike the Apple TV remote. I sometimes have a hard time selecting workouts. I'd appreciate suggestions on a replacement.

Speaking of workouts, I put Zwift on another machine that I have access to and I load the ZWO files there. They are mirror or whatever to the Apple TV and that works fine, remote issues aside.

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Lately I've started using the iPhone Apple TV remote app. Its still not 100% great but it's way more responsive in Zwift than the regular remote.

I bought a viiiva heart rate strap that functions as ant to Bluetooth bridge, ie ant cadence sensor connects viiiva heart strap which in turn transmits heart rate and cadence data to Apple TV via Bluetooth. Kickr connects directly to Apple TV via bluetooth

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Great info here. I'm also looking to upgrade my dying laptop zwift setup with an Apple TV and a dedicated monitor.

A question for Zwifters on AppleTV...

Is there anyway to run zwift and YouTube on the same screen on Apple TV?

Currently on my puny 13" laptop I could split screen to have zwift on one half of the screen and YouTube on the other half.

I think Appletv only has picture in picture if you're using the apple tv app currently. So for now, if your tv has a picture in picture mode that you could use, it might be possible, but I don't think it can be done exclusively through the Appletv

Apple TV does have picture in picture but its limited. I've never tried it but it does not sound like it will work with Zwift and Youtube.
https://techcrunch.com/...h-two-shows-at-once/

FWIW, I got an Apple TV shortly after starting this thread last year. I love it for Zwift. Except for the remote being a little wonky, it runs the app great (for regular video streaming a Roku is better and cheaper though). My main goal was to avoid purchasing a new laptop and avoiding the (minor) hassle of plugging in a laptop into my TV each time I wanted to Zwift. Mission accomplished.

On the other hand, if you want to run Zwift and Youtube at the same time, the Apple TV does have a hidden benefit - at $179, you don't have to pay all that much more for a usable laptop ;-)

With a long winter of Zwifting ahead I am looking into upgrading my Zwift set up and was looking for some advice from those who use Apple TV. I currently have a Wahoo Kickr, a HR monitor and use my ipad which is wired to a monitor I picked up 2 years ago on which the graphics are fine but not nearly as good as what I see on alot of other people's set ups. My major problem these days is I can only do a ride of about 3:00 maximum with the ipad linked to the monitor before the ipad runs out of juice. I have had a couple longer rides/races where I ran out with a very short distance to go which was very, very frustrating. If I hook the ipad up to a power source rather than the monitor at the start it does not run out of juice but then I have very small screen for any long ride. Also, the ipad is not dedicated for Zwifting but is the family ipad, meaning every so often its been run down by my daughter when I go to use it. Arghh.

To surmount the above issues for the winter ahead, I am considering getting an Apple TV 4 and a bigger/better viewing platform (I guess a TV rather than a computer monitor?). My questions:

-Are the graphics alot better with Apple TV 4k than with an ipad?
-Any recommendations on what I should be looking for in a TV to maximize the benefits of the Apple TV 4? How much should I be looking to spend minimum for a decent sized screen? Any products that are great or to avoid or which are not compatible with Apple TV 4K?
-Do you need to pay a monthly subscription for the Apple TV 4k if you only use it for Zwifting and don't watch TV on it?
-What is The Cable mentioned above and why would you want or need it? To date, I have not had one and don't miss it (I think). If that matters at all, I currently only have Zwift on the ipad and do not have an iphone.
-Any other problems/pitfalls/things to consider I am forgetting?

thanks in advance for any advice,
Jack

 
-Are the graphics alot better with Apple TV 4k than with an ipad?

It depends on how old the iPad is. I'll roll with a yes on this, ATV4K wins.

-Any recommendations on what I should be looking for in a TV to maximize the benefits of the Apple TV 4? How much should I be looking to spend minimum for a decent sized screen? Any products that are great or to avoid or which are not compatible with Apple TV 4K?

Cheap shitty 4K screens are exactly that. They look bad, low frame rates, HDMI input lag, etc. I've found Samsung to be on point for price/performance. ATV4K will work with any HDMI screen, even 1080 only. The 4K in the name is misleading, imo.

-Do you need to pay a monthly subscription for the Apple TV 4k if you only use it for Zwifting and don't watch TV on it?

No.

-What is The Cable mentioned above and why would you want or need it? To date, I have not had one and don't miss it (I think). If that matters at all, I currently only have Zwift on the ipad and do not have an iphone.

Without scrolling up... I assume it's to do with the 3 BLE device limitation on the ATV. Here's what the CABLE is/does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvrYcOyd7wA Here's a run-thru of that 3 BLE issue and a workaround: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4F7N67YT9Q

-Any other problems/pitfalls/things to consider I am forgetting?

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I actually have the same issue. My iphone (7plus).......I can swing about an hour 30....45 minute ride before I'm in trouble of a drained battery (I set the screen brightness on almost black as well). I have to consciously make sure my phone is completely charged before I get onto Zwift. This thread is a good reminder that I really should switch to AppleTV now to avoid phone battery drain issues.

jsmith wrote:

My major problem these days is I can only do a ride of about 3:00 maximum with the ipad linked to the monitor before the ipad runs out of juice. I have had a couple longer rides/races where I ran out with a very short distance to go which was very, very frustrating. If I hook the ipad up to a power source rather than the monitor at the start it does not run out of juice but then I have very small screen for any long ride. Also, the ipad is not dedicated for Zwifting but is the family ipad, meaning every so often its been run down by my daughter when I go to use it. Arghh.

I use an iPad hooked up to my TV using a Lightning Digital AV Adapter, this allows me mirror the iPad on the TV while charging at the same time. There's also versions for monitors and older devices...

support.apple.com/en-us/HT202044

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I use the same device on my iPhone to mirror Zwift to the TV. Although the lightning bolt shows as its charging, I still at most could possibly squeeze a 2 hour session before my phone battery would be at 0.