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IM 70.3 CT — what’s up?
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It was supposed to open for registration today, along with Maine. It has been delayed without explanation. I saw an earlier suggestion that there were some grumbling municipalities. Is this race happening?
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [Poon] [ In reply to ]
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I deferred this year's 70.3 to next year, and wrote to them after I heard it was not going to be a Rev3 event anymore. I have not heard anything back yet, but I will post if I hear anything.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [Poon] [ In reply to ]
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Poon wrote:
It was supposed to open for registration today, along with Maine. It has been delayed without explanation. I saw an earlier suggestion that there were some grumbling municipalities. Is this race happening?

no reason to expect it NOT to happen. maybe they wanted to stagger the openings? i do recall them saying that it would open the same day as VA and ME, but we will see.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [Poon] [ In reply to ]
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I signed up for the "Remind me" (about the registration opening) and haven't received anything yet. I did sign up for Maine a few hours ago. It was a fun race.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [Poon] [ In reply to ]
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I think that they are being more cautious with permitting here. I'd lean towards 85% confidence of the race happening, just getting their ducks in a row first.

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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I think that they are being more cautious with permitting here. I'd lean towards 85% confidence of the race happening, just getting their ducks in a row first.

what do you mean more cautious with permitting? I know some of the locals in the area are upset about it, but what else could they do? unless they change the course somehow?
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [BabaBooey] [ In reply to ]
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Permits for the race had not been issued as of yet. The town of Woodbury was delaying action on the permitting for the event until, if I remember correctly, this month's meeting. It would appear based on some activity over on the former Rev3 Quassy Facebook group that registration will be opening in October, suggesting either a.) they have secured permitting for the former course, or b.) they have secured permitting/assurances that a new bike course will be permitted.

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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I recognize your name now, from the Rev3 quassy page. was it you that mentioned they wouldn't be able to do a safe 2 loop course there?

good to know re the permits. I hope it gets resolved soon. the longer they wait, the more it will impact registration. people prepping for IMLP will look elsewhere.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [BabaBooey] [ In reply to ]
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Yup. Roads are too narrow around the park. It's a substandard width travel lane with no shoulder.

I would take registration opening as a positive -- for wholly owned and operated events, I would be hard pressed to think that they would open registration at this point if they were not extremely confident of everything being squared away (especially in the light of the Princeton 70.3 debacle). My guess is that the bike course changes a little bit but not overwhelmingly so.

And, well, to be fair...where else are IMLPers going to turn? Patriot and Eagleman are flatter (although that's really not a bad thing for Placid prep), Tupper Lake is bordering on late, White Mountains IS late...Quassy weekend is just about perfect to build off of and get into LP prep mode.

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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Yup. Roads are too narrow around the park. It's a substandard width travel lane with no shoulder.

I would take registration opening as a positive -- for wholly owned and operated events, I would be hard pressed to think that they would open registration at this point if they were not extremely confident of everything being squared away (especially in the light of the Princeton 70.3 debacle). My guess is that the bike course changes a little bit but not overwhelmingly so.

And, well, to be fair...where else are IMLPers going to turn? Patriot and Eagleman are flatter (although that's really not a bad thing for Placid prep), Tupper Lake is bordering on late, White Mountains IS late...Quassy weekend is just about perfect to build off of and get into LP prep mode.

Correct.

And there's no more Syracuse so Quassy is pretty much it.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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Yup. Roads are too narrow around the park. It's a substandard width travel lane with no shoulder.

I would take registration opening as a positive -- for wholly owned and operated events, I would be hard pressed to think that they would open registration at this point if they were not extremely confident of everything being squared away (especially in the light of the Princeton 70.3 debacle). My guess is that the bike course changes a little bit but not overwhelmingly so.

And, well, to be fair...where else are IMLPers going to turn? Patriot and Eagleman are flatter (although that's really not a bad thing for Placid prep), Tupper Lake is bordering on late, White Mountains IS late...Quassy weekend is just about perfect to build off of and get into LP prep mode.

I raced Princeton, I know the towns hated it. what was the debacle after? agree its a positive. will be good to get it on the calendar. selfishly, if I want to do that race, I wont have another option since patriot sells out real quick. looking at the map, it doesn't look like woodbury has much of the race. what's their problem?
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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rrheisler wrote:
And, well, to be fair...where else are IMLPers going to turn? Patriot and Eagleman are flatter (although that's really not a bad thing for Placid prep), Tupper Lake is bordering on late, White Mountains IS late...Quassy weekend is just about perfect to build off of and get into LP prep mode.

And this is my dilemma - which you and I have already chatted about on Facebook, but I'm going to keep bitching about IM sucking up all the races. I'd really like to support White Mountain as a local race, but it's later than I would like given that I'm already committed to IMLP. I can't justify the travel to upstate NY twice to do Tupper Lake.

So, I'm also sat here waiting for Quassy... I mean, IM 70.3 - to open. Gah!
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [UK2ME] [ In reply to ]
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Had we, collectively, as an athlete base had gone to White Mountains when it was early June, it would be perfect. But we all went to Quassy, or Syracuse, or Eagleman, or Tremblant. So they moved it to July, which has resulted in way more people doing the Olympic than doing the half (because you can't do a half that difficult that close to LP). I loved racing it the first two years.

$10 says this sells out in the first week it's open.

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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White Mountains is June 22, 2019. Might still be too late for LP prep, but not July.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [JDinMA] [ In reply to ]
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Huh. Back to June. Well that's a good move!

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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rrheisler wrote:
And, well, to be fair...where else are IMLPers going to turn? Patriot and Eagleman are flatter (although that's really not a bad thing for Placid prep), Tupper Lake is bordering on late, White Mountains IS late...Quassy weekend is just about perfect to build off of and get into LP prep mode.

A lot of people seem to do Tupper Lake as a tune up, which I'd like to do but at 4 weeks out that seems too late to me. White Mountains is a week earlier so 5 weeks, but that also seems late. Patriot gives you an additional week, but may still be too late and it doesn't sound like the terrain is similar. There is also the Harryman Triathlon in mid-May, but perhaps that's too early. What is the best timing?
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [macwhinb] [ In reply to ]
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What is the best timing?

That's really individual, IMO. I felt pretty fresh going into Rev3 Cedar Point 140.6 back in the day off of doing a 70.3 two weeks prior. But then I went and worked 50+ hours at the expo the four days prior which didn't bode well for my day at the office...

I think anywhere in the 4-8 week range out is a really decent barometer, and then it's just how you stack your build around that. For example, I'm doing IMFL this year, and just did AC 70.3. I got a day off and am building volume the next 3 weeks out off of that - AC was really the "kickoff" of my few peak weeks. Then two week taper into FL. If it were later, I would probably have done more volume first, then race week (probably less shaved and tapered into the 70.3), and then a week similar to this one before shutting it down into taper mode.

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [macwhinb] [ In reply to ]
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macwhinb wrote:
rrheisler wrote:

And, well, to be fair...where else are IMLPers going to turn? Patriot and Eagleman are flatter (although that's really not a bad thing for Placid prep), Tupper Lake is bordering on late, White Mountains IS late...Quassy weekend is just about perfect to build off of and get into LP prep mode.


A lot of people seem to do Tupper Lake as a tune up, which I'd like to do but at 4 weeks out that seems too late to me. White Mountains is a week earlier so 5 weeks, but that also seems late. Patriot gives you an additional week, but may still be too late and it doesn't sound like the terrain is similar. There is also the Harryman Triathlon in mid-May, but perhaps that's too early. What is the best timing?

ive never heard any feedback on Harryman. although it looks really hilly and its 4 loops. also an olympic race at the same time (2 loops) so potential for confusion and crowding. but the park is quiet. not sure how far back it was but i did quassy as a prep for IMMT in 2016 and it was fine. worked it into my plan accordingly.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [macwhinb] [ In reply to ]
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macwhinb wrote:
rrheisler wrote:

And, well, to be fair...where else are IMLPers going to turn? Patriot and Eagleman are flatter (although that's really not a bad thing for Placid prep), Tupper Lake is bordering on late, White Mountains IS late...Quassy weekend is just about perfect to build off of and get into LP prep mode.


A lot of people seem to do Tupper Lake as a tune up, which I'd like to do but at 4 weeks out that seems too late to me. White Mountains is a week earlier so 5 weeks, but that also seems late. Patriot gives you an additional week, but may still be too late and it doesn't sound like the terrain is similar. There is also the Harryman Triathlon in mid-May, but perhaps that's too early. What is the best timing?

Quassy. Quassy is the best timing. A true test on the right kind of elevation with enough time to recover and make necessary changes to the training if you need.

I went to Chatty this year as my warm-up race (late May) - a little early, and the acclimation to the 90F+ heat and humidity was tough for someone coming out of 47F Maine. But I also have family in the area, which made it about more than just the race for me.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [UK2ME] [ In reply to ]
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I'm going to miss the Olympic distance race, that was one of my favs. Also too bad they can't call it "Quassy" anymore and instead call it "Connecticut". That's rather dull and takes a lot of the charm and recognition of this race away. I'm guessing WTC probably didn't want to pay the park for the rights to use "Quassy"? Shame.

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [Don_W] [ In reply to ]
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They changed the one in VA to IM70.3 virginia. probably just to help re-brand it, regionalize it. that said i like the whale tail at the end of the state name. an ode to the old Hartford Whalers hockey team perhaps? Whaling was a large business in the 1800's. or they could call it IM70.3 overtaxed. because we are.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [BabaBooey] [ In reply to ]
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Any word on the permits and when/if registration will open??

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [70Trigirl] [ In reply to ]
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Bumping this one up

Anyone??? I sent two emails to Ironman but haven't gotten any response. Anyone else concerned about this? I secured housing back in early September. And would love to know if this race is a go or not.

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [70Trigirl] [ In reply to ]
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You won't have received a response because WTC's had a mess of a fall:

  • Wilmington cancelled;
  • Chattanooga swim cancelled;
  • Kona prep (pretty much swallows the back half of September)
  • IM Lou this weekend for all other staff
  • Now dealing with the possibility of IMFL being modified/cancelled too

That said, last I heard it was opening later this month.





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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [70Trigirl] [ In reply to ]
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I also asked about IMCT because it wasn't on the list to choose from for those of us displaced from IMNC. The official response from WTC:
"Details are still being finalized for IRONMAN 70.3 Connecticut, so I am also unsure of when registration for that event will open."

So there you have it. Exactly no information. My cynical guess is that they open it next week after the deadline passes for the free transfer for the IMNC athletes.

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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My theory was they were going to try and open up reg before Patriot, to try and undercut them. Disappointingly it seems like Patriot reg is going a little slower than last year...
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [FishOutofWater] [ In reply to ]
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My theory was they were going to try and open up reg before Patriot, to try and undercut them. Disappointingly it seems like Patriot reg is going a little slower than last year...

Wasn't someone mentioning a problem obtaining permits? I would think that holding back registration might lesson the amount of people who sign up. I'm thinking there is some snag that they haven't worked out yet. But I could be completely wrong.

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My theory was they were going to try and open up reg before Patriot, to try and undercut them. Disappointingly it seems like Patriot reg is going a little slower than last year...

Quassy and Patriot are usually 2-3 weeks apart, and I know a bunch of folks who have done them both in the same year, but I could see how a new IM branded race could eat into Patriot registration. Completely different courses, though in terms of difficulty.

I’m doing IM Norway at the end of June and was thinking that Quassy four weeks out would be a good tune up. Not many other options in the 4-6 week window before June 30th.

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [70Trigirl] [ In reply to ]
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70Trigirl wrote:
FishOutofWater wrote:
My theory was they were going to try and open up reg before Patriot, to try and undercut them. Disappointingly it seems like Patriot reg is going a little slower than last year...


Wasn't someone mentioning a problem obtaining permits? I would think that holding back registration might lesson the amount of people who sign up. I'm thinking there is some snag that they haven't worked out yet. But I could be completely wrong.

I signed up for Patriot yesterday. when I was thinking about next season, Quassy came to mind because its an hour from me, but didn't want to because Ive done the race (oly & half) 3x and I'd like a change. was briefly allured by the IM name but decided to go to patriot as it fits better for me and I will do something new. not sure they would undercut Patriot. Patriot is about $260 now and doubt IMCT would be lower. different race courses, quassy/CT is perfect training ground for placid and tremblant its got nearly 3x the elevation of patriot on the bike course.

maybe there is an issue with the permits. the locals were putting up a stink about it. time will tell.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [70Trigirl] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah the town had some residents petitioning to keep the race from getting a permit, but AFAIK it was only 20 people.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [BabaBooey] [ In reply to ]
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BabaBooey wrote:
70Trigirl wrote:
FishOutofWater wrote:
My theory was they were going to try and open up reg before Patriot, to try and undercut them. Disappointingly it seems like Patriot reg is going a little slower than last year...


Wasn't someone mentioning a problem obtaining permits? I would think that holding back registration might lesson the amount of people who sign up. I'm thinking there is some snag that they haven't worked out yet. But I could be completely wrong.

I signed up for Patriot yesterday. when I was thinking about next season, Quassy came to mind because its an hour from me, but didn't want to because Ive done the race (oly & half) 3x and I'd like a change. was briefly allured by the IM name but decided to go to patriot as it fits better for me and I will do something new. not sure they would undercut Patriot. Patriot is about $260 now and doubt IMCT would be lower. different race courses, quassy/CT is perfect training ground for placid and tremblant its got nearly 3x the elevation of patriot on the bike course.

I'm in for Patriot. Quassy would have been the more appropriate lead up to IMLP for both course and timing. I was all about Quassy until it turned into IMCT, but that's because I have a serious hair across my ass about supporting local and independent races.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [UK2ME] [ In reply to ]
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I did Patriot this year and I really enjoyed the race. It's a very different vibe compared to Ironman events but I liked it a lot. The route was very pretty! The reason I didn't sign up again for this race is because MT70.3 is the following week.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [Poon] [ In reply to ]
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I just got an email for priority registration for 70.3 Connecticut. It says general entry will open on October 30th.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [Conky] [ In reply to ]
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How did you get into the priority queue? :)
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [ask77nl] [ In reply to ]
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Website says AWA opens Mon, Oct 23; Tri Clubs open Wed, Oct 25 and General Opens Mon, Oct 30 - note that is what the website says even though the days and dates don't line up so not sure which one is accurate.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [ask77nl] [ In reply to ]
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It's one of the perks of the AWA program. And yea, the email says priority opens October 23rd, general is October 30th. I stand corrected.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [Conky] [ In reply to ]
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Does anybody know what is going on with registration? As far as i know AWAs never got emails..
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [SBR.NYC] [ In reply to ]
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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that everyone down in Tampa is working on Operation: Move IMFL to Haines City.

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [SBR.NYC] [ In reply to ]
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I got an e-mail yesterday for early entry.

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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The general registration hasn't opened yet (Oct 30th, 11:52AM) and the first tier is already gone. Cool!
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [gguerini] [ In reply to ]
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Second tier as well, if you click the "register now" button

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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [Birdmantris] [ In reply to ]
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Second tier as well, if you click the "register now" button

Yep.. I saw that. I hate Ironman, but I still signed up. Urrrrrrrrrrrg!
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [gguerini] [ In reply to ]
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NYC and Boston are nearby, so it's no wonder they're selling quickly.
Not to mention CT also probably has some people with money.
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [gguerini] [ In reply to ]
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I signed up as soon as general opened and got the tier 3 price. Perhaps it will end up selling out quickly?
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [ In reply to ]
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The bike course was just posted (or recently)

Anyone take a look. Is it the same as in the past?
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Re: IM 70.3 CT — what’s up? [SayHey Kid] [ In reply to ]
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It's similar. The first 20 miles or so are pretty much the same as they've ever been. It looks like they're taking the same left turn we took during the descent this year (note: it's hilly as f*ck up in here). There's a new right hand turn to bring you back down further on 254. Then the out and back is only an "out" -- they're going to bring you onto a right hand turn onto East Shore Road. (This is probably going to piss the locals off significantly - East Shore Road was always the "back road" that got you around the course closures). The climb back into the center of town on 109 will not be fun. The descent is then the same, and then you come back on the old Olympic course on the other side of the lake.

Not going to lie - I think there's going to be some very, very pissed off locals with this set-up. Like, even more than normal.

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