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Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette
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63 years old and i have been riding on the road for close to 20 years and I am finally losing raw power to drive me over climbs, also seem to have lost a little interest in riding more hills to overcome this current weakness.

Weight is coming down thanks to 'Loseit" and the Slowtwitch forum recommendation.and also back at the gym twice a week lifting weights which i usually only do in the winter .

Just feel like I am being a pussy by switching from 28 to 32 and to be fair I have no idea how much easier it will be .
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sward wrote:
63 years old and i have been riding on the road for close to 20 years and I am finally losing raw power to drive me over climbs, also seem to have lost a little interest in riding more hills to overcome this current weakness.

Weight is coming down thanks to 'Loseit" and the Slowtwitch forum recommendation.and also back at the gym twice a week lifting weights which i usually only do in the winter .

Just feel like I am being a pussy by switching from 28 to 32 and to be fair I have no idea how much easier it will be .

No. At 63, IMO, you should have long since given up caring if anybody thinks you're a p***y and just do whatever the f**k you feel makes you happy.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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Nope not at all. Sounds sensible, choose your gears based on terrain.
When you buy a electric assist, then you will get called names.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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I have a 32 on my road bike with a mid compact and I’m not a slouch on the bike. No desire to grind up hills in Colorado. They made gears for a reason. Don’t be the moron who has a cadence of 10 going up a mountain because you don’t want more gears.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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As long as you are running that 58T in 1x, it's fine. Otherwise....
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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Froome uses a 32t from time to time, that should answer your question.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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Some rear derailleurs have a limit as to how many teeth they can handle. Make sure yours can before investing.

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Once, I was fast. But I got over it.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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Spin to win.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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I've been using one for hilly courses for a few years now and I'm not even 53.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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I'm 32... live in Madison, WI where its pretty hilly and made the switch from a 28 to a 32 and absolutely love it.



sward wrote:
63 years old and i have been riding on the road for close to 20 years and I am finally losing raw power to drive me over climbs, also seem to have lost a little interest in riding more hills to overcome this current weakness.

Weight is coming down thanks to 'Loseit" and the Slowtwitch forum recommendation.and also back at the gym twice a week lifting weights which i usually only do in the winter .

Just feel like I am being a pussy by switching from 28 to 32 and to be fair I have no idea how much easier it will be .

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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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If you have to ask........
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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I have a couple of years on you!! :-) During the recent Ride The Rockies - I had a 28 on the back and was crying for a 32-- so go for it and ride as you wish... :-)

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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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My friends and I try to hammer a 7 mile segment that has a 2 mile "wall" on it and this year I switch to a long cage derailleur with a 32t cassette and love having the extra gear. I don't feel like I'm dying at the top.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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No, it doesn’t make you any less manly.

I’m 29 and ride a 34/32, sometimes 34/34. It is nice to have when hitting 20% switch backs.

For me, 80 cadence feels like I’m starting to grind. So it’s great to spin up mountain climbs.

Alex Arman

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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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You could split the manliness difference and go with a 30-tooth cassette. It will give you tighter gear ratios and work better with a short-cage derailleur

If I make it to 63, still cycling, I will certainly have a 34-tooth or larger big ring in the back and while that might make me a pu**y, I suspect I'll be too tired to care.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [doublea334] [ In reply to ]
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How fast you get to top is what matters, not how big your cassette is.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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sward wrote:
Just feel like I am being a pussy by switching from 28 to 32
Quite the opposite. People regularly take shelter in insufficient granny gears. "Oh, I'm calmly slow-pedaling because I'm in a ridiculously high gear." "Let's just do some flat land today, I don't have my little gears." Excuses excuses excuses.

When you've got itsy-bitsy gears, you can't go slow unless you feel like going slow or are too weak to go fast. You can't complain that hills are intrinsically hard, because the difficulty of a hill is your own choice. There's no shame in winning spinning.
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You are being a pu**y by worrying about it. :D
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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Do you care about the opinion of the sort of person who would judge you for this? Personally, sounds like a raging no-brainer to me...
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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What go you have up front?
I am also 63 and my new bike came with a huge 28. I like the 28.
To answer your question, Real men don’t ride a 32. Especially true since we might race each other.😜
Time to toughen up. Go ride some mountains!
Yes, I am half joking.

Team Zoot So Cal
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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Yes. There , I gave you the reality check no one else wanted to. Of course, you are in good company as I’m joining you very soon despite being 20 years younger.
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What I love about my 32 - I can do anything on it. Hills, yep. Flats, yep. Descents, yep. No need to change anything out, ever. Just take the bike and go.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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I'm 45, also been bike racing for 20 years, and put a 32 on for the first time this year for hilly courses like Tremblant. I've used it for two races so far, should have put it on sooner, I love it for the real steep stuff. The last two races I used it on are also the first two times in a long time that I made it through the 21km runs without leg cramps. :)
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My new bike came with a 34 on the back. I am now able to spin up the hills and not grind my way up. Much easier on the knees.
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I’m in pancake flat The Woodlands, TX and out a 50x32 on for a trip to Italy in 2014 and haven’t switched it out yet. And have no plans to anytime soon.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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Only if you have it paired with a MB triple up front. (FWIW, that's exactly what I had to do to survive my recent vacation to Summit County, CO, and I'm only 49. :o )
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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sward wrote:
63 years old and i have been riding on the road for close to 20 years and I am finally losing raw power to drive me over climbs, also seem to have lost a little interest in riding more hills to overcome this current weakness.

Weight is coming down thanks to 'Loseit" and the Slowtwitch forum recommendation.and also back at the gym twice a week lifting weights which i usually only do in the winter .

Just feel like I am being a pussy by switching from 28 to 32 and to be fair I have no idea how much easier it will be .


Pussy!

That said...if gearing up allows a higher, more efficient cadence, then it will make your girly self faster.
I keep the 11/28 on now always-rather than the 11/25.

I'll probably have the 11/32 on next year, puss that I am...
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [dtoce] [ In reply to ]
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Somebody better break out the kitty litter..
'Cause there sure are a lot of pussies in this thread!!
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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I'm 39 and put on a 32 when I raced IMMT last year and absolutely love it. I previously had a 28. Both on a compact crank. I do like challenging myself with hilly/rolling races and rides. I use the 32 a fair amount and rarely spin out (~30mph). I believe my runs off the bike have improved as a result.
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4.2 w/kg FTP and i ride a 32.
No shame.
Do whatever works for you. Who cares what other people think.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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No, and if you need a 32 and didn't buy it because of fear of being a p***y then you'd definitely be a dumbass!

You'll definitely notice the difference. I have a 28 on my bike, I can get over the steeper stuff no problems but sometimes my effort/cadence is dictated to me by the gradient i.e. at anything 10% or higher I'm either pushing close to threshold and/or having to grind it out at a cadence that's getting uncomfortably low (and makes my knee ache on longer climbs). Was down in the Alps last month and rented a bike that came with a 32 at the rear, really noticed the difference in being able to spin more and control my effort on the steep sections.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [cartsman] [ In reply to ]
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When I upgraded the group on my road bike I went from a 50/34 11-28 to a 52/36 11-32. This put my bike in a sweet spot for me to be able to climb almost anything in my area and yet it improved top speed in downhill or long slightly down gradient sections, whereas, before I struggled with the 50 11 combo to stay in the pace line when the guys picked up the pace because I am a slow spinner and a horrible climber.

On my tri bike I have a 52/36 with a 11-28 because I normally stick to flatter routes and the few hills I encounter up to 20% for a few feet max. can be handled with picking up the momentum and then a quick standing surge over the crest. If I used the tri bike on hillier courses I wouldn't hesitate to add a mid cage and a 11-32. Still sticking with the 52/36 though.

Besides if you are training solo not drafting who really sees that you have a 32? And when you are in a road group the most impressive people in the group are the ones cruising up the hill while casually chatting, whereas, weak climbers like me keep subconsciously hitting the shifter hoping there is a 34 cog available. :-)
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [sward] [ In reply to ]
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Yes.

You should never use anything but an 11-23
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [ChrisM] [ In reply to ]
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ChrisM wrote:
Yes.

You should never use anything but an 11-23


You mean 12/23

😉

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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [Grant.Reuter] [ In reply to ]
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+1

"see the world as it is not as you want it to be"
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [elf6c] [ In reply to ]
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Nice :)

"see the world as it is not as you want it to be"
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [hblake] [ In reply to ]
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hblake wrote:
Some rear derailleurs have a limit as to how many teeth they can handle. Make sure yours can before investing.

Meow. .

In most cases, a simple DR extender such as Wolf Tooth Road Link will give you all the leverage you need for a 30 or 32. When I converted one of my tri-bikes to a 1x drive, I used the Road Link instead of wasting money on a long cage DR. It works perfectly.
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I'm 57 and running a 32 in back with a 50/34 up front. As long as I have hills to climb that require me to put out 400 watts for more than 3 minutes on the 34-32 to just stay upright I'm satisfied I have nothing to be ashamed of.

"...the street finds its own uses for things"
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sward wrote:
63 years old and i have been riding on the road for close to 20 years and I am finally losing raw power to drive me over climbs, also seem to have lost a little interest in riding more hills to overcome this current weakness.

Weight is coming down thanks to 'Loseit" and the Slowtwitch forum recommendation.and also back at the gym twice a week lifting weights which i usually only do in the winter .

Just feel like I am being a pussy by switching from 28 to 32 and to be fair I have no idea how much easier it will be .

I got 32 this year as well, it feels awesome on steeper climbs. Age has nothing to do with # of teeth in your cassette.
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If while riding you feel like you want or need another smaller gear than what you have available, use the following checklist:

Will I ride this route, similar routes, or harder routes again in the future?
Are you in fairly normal condition today? (i.e. you're not ill or massively fatigued)
Can you afford what is a relatively cheap expense in bike terms?

If the answer to each of the above is "Yes" then move onto the final question:

Are you a huge pussy who will cave to what others tell you to use rather than getting what you actually want or need?

Yes = get a bigger large sprocket or a smaller small chainring
No = you're a pussy and you're doomed to ride unsuitable gear options
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I've been road racing for 25 years and switched to semi-compact and alternating between 28 and 32 on the back. I wish I would have made this move 10 years ago. I'm now considering 50/34 up front and going up to 34 in the back for the bad stuff.
Gearing has no bearing on your manliness.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [Ironnerd] [ In reply to ]
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I feel like you don't really understand power very well. The gearing you have doesn't magically make you faster or slower, it just changes your cadence on the bike.

Choose a chainring/cassette combo that gives you the best range for whatever event you are using it for. If you feel your cadence is bogging down with your current setup, then I'd look towards getting a gear ratios closer to 1:1.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [nightfend] [ In reply to ]
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nightfend wrote:
I feel like you don't really understand power very well. The gearing you have doesn't magically make you faster or slower, it just changes your cadence on the bike.

Choose a chainring/cassette combo that gives you the best range for whatever event you are using it for. If you feel your cadence is bogging down with your current setup, then I'd look towards getting a gear ratios closer to 1:1.

This. I’ve frequently heard at races, these hill are so difficult. Well no they aren’t you need to fix your gearing. You may be going slow but 200 watts is 200 watts. You flatten the course with gearing not with cadence (for the most part).
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What size chainrings are you using? If you are in a 54 or a 53, then consider going to a 52 or even a 50. This would let you keep a closer ratio cassette.

Just another option for you to consider.
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treyedr wrote:
What size chainrings are you using? If you are in a 54 or a 53, then consider going to a 52 or even a 50. This would let you keep a closer ratio cassette.

Just another option for you to consider.
I think you meant to talk about the small chainrings..... assuming its not 1×

So if above 34T, consider dropping. Which may mean also changing the big ring as you don't want a difference greater yhan 16 teeth from big to small.
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was thinking about this the other day.
I run a 32 rear

has anyone noticed a difference between a 32 and 34 rear?
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tomee wrote:
was thinking about this the other day.
I run a 32 rear

has anyone noticed a difference between a 32 and 34 rear?
One has 2 extra teeth and is thus approximately 6% smaller gear
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tomee wrote:
was thinking about this the other day.
I run a 32 rear

has anyone noticed a difference between a 32 and 34 rear?
I haven't tried 32 vs 34, but I rode my 1983 Miyata 710 with its 42-28 low gear today and I noticed that I suck.
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nightfend wrote:
I feel like you don't really understand power very well. The gearing you have doesn't magically make you faster or slower, it just changes your cadence on the bike.

He wasn't talking about power. He just said that that higher cadence made it easier on his knees, which it does.
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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No, I meant the big ring. However, that would likely cause him to want to change the small ring as well.
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treyedr wrote:
No, I meant the big ring. However, that would likely cause him to want to change the small ring as well.
Why?
Seems to me you've got it bsckwards. The OP is wondering if he should alliw himself a smaller gear in the bike. Small gear = small chainring. The big ring is surely not part of the equation except if it's effected due to excessive tooth difference?
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Re: Am I a p***y by switching to a 32 Cassette [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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I read the OP as he wanted to go to something like an 11-32 or 11-34 cassette to help with climbing. My suggestion was based on this presumption. If this is the case, I'd stick with a traditional 11-25, 11-28, 12-25, 12-28 setups and use a 50 big ring and a 34 or 36 small chainring. However, the OP did not give us a lot of information and hasn't replied to the thread, so I guess we will never know!
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