The largest, most successful clubs?

Jun 13, 18 6:56

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i got into this discussion yesterday with someone. seems there are the following sorts of clubs, tho with some crossover. first, social clubs, not designed to make money per se:

L.A. Tri club
St. Petes Mad Dogs
Mullica Hill Tri Club
Tri Scottsdale
Golden Gate Tri Club
Silicon Valley Tri Club
District Tri
Rochester Area Triathletes

then there are the clubs built around athletes and coaches. so...

QT2 Systems
D3 Multisport
Alien Endurance
Team Big Sexy
AP Racing

and then finally there are clubs built around brands.

Wattie Ink
Cobb Mobb
Base Performance

this excludes school based teams and of course i'm only listing US-based teams here. i'm sure there are other specialty teams not included in the above categories, and i'm also excluding the charity-based teams in the 3 categories above.

what are the obvious teams i'm missing from these lists above? and by obvious i mean big, important, well run teams. and, what categories am i missing? basically, what's wrong or incomplete with my list?

Dan Empfield
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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 7:15

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Rocky Mountain Tri Club -- not sure I would have been able to figure out how to get involved in the sport without them. I think they are among the largest in the country.

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [kileyay] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 7:18

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thx. can you give me an actual number, tho? of active members?

Dan Empfield
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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 7:27

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Because it was not stated, I am wondering if you are implying that smaller clubs are not successful?
Many of the more social clubs are successful because they are small.
Is the Tri industry missing out because there focus on big clubs?

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 7:30

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ones that come to mind...

purple patch
EMJ

(is timex still around?)

but I don't know whether those are "teams" or "clubs" or if there is really a difference worth noting....

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 7:30

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Slowman wrote:

thx. can you give me an actual number, tho? of active members?

As of 2013, they had over 500 members. They are definitely in "Division 1" in WTC's TriClub program. In fact, that seems to be what you're asking -- what TriClubs are in Division 1?

Division 1: 400+ members
Division 2: 200-399 members
Division 3: 100-199
Division 4: 50-99
Division 5: <50

I think you're missing a category, too, which is "Clubs built around Bike Shops/Retail Stores". The two largest, most well known "clubs" in Philly are associated with bike shops

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 7:41

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Not sure if they fit neatly into any of your categories, but California Triathlon has well over 4,000 members I believe.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [flynnzu] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 7:45

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flynnzu wrote:

Not sure if they fit neatly into any of your categories, but California Triathlon has well over 4,000 members I believe.

That one would come to mind, as well as Endurance Nation.

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 7:47

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There is a triathlon website - drawing a blank - that has 80,000 registered users.

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [ajthomas] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 7:51

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ajthomas wrote:

There is a triathlon website - drawing a blank - that has 80,000 registered users.

I got nuthin'. Not a clue what you're referring to.

oh wait, I know. Tri-Newbies, right?

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:00

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DC Tri Club is a non-profit club. It has about 1,000 members. It has an elite team, training programs for first time triathletes as well as for veterans triathletes who race oly, HIM, and IMs. It also has its own racing series.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [ajthomas] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:10

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ajthomas wrote:

There is a triathlon website - drawing a blank - that has 80,000 registered users.

88,531, bubba!

Dan Empfield
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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:10

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Why not just run a US query on the IM tri club rankings. I suspect that will give you a pretty accurate picture.

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:13

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Isn't the Zoot team pretty big?

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [kileyay] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:20

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kileyay wrote:

Slowman wrote:

thx. can you give me an actual number, tho? of active members?

As of 2013, they had over 500 members. They are definitely in "Division 1" in WTC's TriClub program. In fact, that seems to be what you're asking -- what TriClubs are in Division 1?

Division 1: 400+ members
Division 2: 200-399 members
Division 3: 100-199
Division 4: 50-99
Division 5: <50

I think you're missing a category, too, which is "Clubs built around Bike Shops/Retail Stores". The two largest, most well known "clubs" in Philly are associated with bike shops

Team Red, White and Blue are consistently top three in Division 1.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:23

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What makes a club successful? I live in Tampa Bay and would consider the St Pete Mad Dogs to be a non-entity in the local triathlon scene which is dominated by Kennedy Law Racing (KLR) and Outspokin Multisport.

Also, I can't believe you mention QT2 and BSR but not Endurance Nation - the 5 time, undefeated, WTC Division One Tri-Club champion

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:27

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HuffNPuff wrote:

What makes a club successful? I live in Tampa Bay and would consider the St Pete Mad Dogs to be a non-entity in the local triathlon scene which is dominated by Kennedy Law Racing (KLR) and Outspokin Multisport.

Also, I can't believe you mention QT2 and BSR but not Endurance Nation - the 5 time, undefeated, WTC Division One Tri-Club champion

i was just listing examples. they're just what came to mind.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Trispoke] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:30

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Trispoke wrote:

Why not just run a US query on the IM tri club rankings. I suspect that will give you a pretty accurate picture.

thanks. good idea. i just did that.

just, i don't consider a club's efficacy measured simply by how well its adherents to at ironman races. i can give you one example at least of a 1000+ member club not ironman ranked at all. so, while your suggestion was excellent, i'm also interested in the clubs that are large, growing, cohesive, return value, regardless of how well they fare on the ironman scale.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:30

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Endurance Nation!

800+ members at the moment, I believe.

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:34

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Gotcha. To be "successful", the club at least has to be ACTIVE and have team cohesion and camaraderie. For awhile there, I thought St Pete Mad Dogs were defunct. You certainly wouldn't consider them a major club if you went to a local race and looked for people wearing their kits. As an example of team cohesion, KLR - perhaps the area's most prominent local team in recent years - put 34 athletes into IM Florida last year and already has 35 signed up for IM Ireland next year.

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:37

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HuffNPuff wrote:

Gotcha. To be "successful", the club at least has to be ACTIVE and have team cohesion and camaraderie. For awhile there, I thought St Pete Mad Dogs were defunct. You certainly wouldn't consider them a major club if you went to a local race and looked for people wearing their kits. As an example of team cohesion, KLR - perhaps the area's most prominent local team in recent years - put 34 athletes into IM Florida last year and already has 35 signed up for IM Ireland next year.

that's good to know. because, not being from that part of the world, i would not have guessed a team that used to be quite a force had given way to other teams that were filling that niche.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:42

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Slowman wrote:

just, i don't consider a club's efficacy measured simply by how well its adherents to at ironman races. i can give you one example at least of a 1000+ member club not ironman ranked at all. so, while your suggestion was excellent, i'm also interested in the clubs that are large, growing, cohesive, return value, regardless of how well they fare on the ironman scale.

I don't know if this comment was directed toward Endurance Nation specifically but, having been an EN team member for a year now I can say that it is definitely all of the above. In fact, I feel a much greater sense of camaraderie and cohesiveness with my EN team members than I ever felt when I was a member of Silicon Valley Tri Club.

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [el gato] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 8:54

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el gato wrote:

Slowman wrote:

just, i don't consider a club's efficacy measured simply by how well its adherents to at ironman races. i can give you one example at least of a 1000+ member club not ironman ranked at all. so, while your suggestion was excellent, i'm also interested in the clubs that are large, growing, cohesive, return value, regardless of how well they fare on the ironman scale.

I don't know if this comment was directed toward Endurance Nation specifically but, having been an EN team member for a year now I can say that it is definitely all of the above. In fact, I feel a much greater sense of camaraderie and cohesiveness with my EN team members than I ever felt when I was a member of Silicon Valley Tri Club.

the comment wasn't directed at any club ON ironman's list, rather, clubs that are NOT on the list. there's nothing wrong with clubs that have high achievers on them. but high achievement in ironman racing, or any similar achievement ranking, is not the only way to judge a club's success. therefore, i'm wondering what successful clubs exist besides the clubs on that list.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 9:00

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Wasn't TRS and Baucco Squad one of the fastest growing triathlon clubs for a while? I feel like you always see those kits at every race, they have to have at least 100 members if not way more.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 9:03

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Timex has both Performance Teams and Factory Team. Mark Allen has a small Elite Team. Locally Big Sexy has a presence, A number of local coach run ones (BBMC, E3, SBR) but small so likely don't fit your list.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 9:37

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Does the Tri Club of San Diego belong in that first list?

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [jakers] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 9:39

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jakers wrote:

Does the Tri Club of San Diego belong in that first list? jake

i don't know. you live down there. you tell me.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 9:44

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I think the answer is yes. I'm not sure what the current registered list of members is, but it used to be quite substantial.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 9:47

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How can you miss triathlon club of San Diego!? Currently 1,500+, peak 3000. If anything an important statistic is active participation. You will see up to 300 members at one event sometimes (even our own - our summer aquathlons hit that high)

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 10:10

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Also fil-am tri club has similar vibe, spread across San Diego and LA.

Ride cyclery team is big in Oceanside, even thou pay to play, with high active participation amongst members (75%? In a group of 200). Coached by Michelle Jones putting out some good athletes

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 11:30

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Hey Dan. TriBike Transport's team is brand-specific. We do team races every year and often travel and race with our teammates. We have about 25 on the team, including several pros, lots of elite amateurs and others who are very involved in their local tri scenes or with the tri industry. Last year we were the #1 ranked Group V team in the U.S.
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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 11:49

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Oo so I have a question. Is it worth joining these clubs?

I am near the St. Pete Mad Dogs and the fee is very minimal. Does everyone like joining them? I tend to workout solo but my lord is gets extremely boring after a while haha and unfortunately all my friends are lazy alcoholics who want nothing to do with what I do

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Twinkie] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 14:16

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I think a distinction needs to be made between a team and club. There are people on team zoot yet in tri club San Diego. A club offers a bit more than a team, and is less exclusive (team makes you were certain gear, makes you promote them on social media).

Many teams are virtual at that... So.most these numbers might be duplicated people

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 15:47

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+1 to team EMJ being on the list

I would say they are one of the most successful clubs out there as far as podium slots in competitive races just based on what I’ve observed. They are small but bring home the hardware

What about Purplepatch? How big are they?

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [karmatraining] [ In reply to ]

Jun 13, 18 19:23

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EMJ is definitely the best armature club. But that is also because people who make it onto the team already proves that they can produce some of the best results and thus is able to bring more people to Kona than teams that are 5 to 6 times their size.
As far as I can tell, Wollongong Wizards is the most successful triathlon club in the world at the moment even without Gwen training with them. They still have McShane, Gentle and a bunch of other ITU guys in the team.
Can't really call Bahrain 13 a club since the guys on it don't train together but rather they just wear the Bahrain 13 logo on their jersey.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Anna s] [ In reply to ]

Jun 14, 18 0:14

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Anna s wrote:

Team Erdinger Alkoholfrei concept with 5000 members.

I would rather call that an online triathlon community that gives you the DTU pass/license, not really a club where you can go to and regularly meet your team mates. But anyway, there are a couple of such "clubs" in Europe with 1000+ members. Getting a license and probably an online training plan seems to be sufficient for a lot of folks.

Looking at real clubs and looking at Germany, Eintracht Frankfurt and Hamburg Triabolos (if I am not wrong) have 1000+ members. Both probably fall under the "largest" tag, not necessarily under "successful" though...

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [motorcity] [ In reply to ]

Jun 14, 18 0:48

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I guess the best clubs in the world would be in France as the grand prix is by far the best club competiton in the world. and poissy is the most successful with 16 en titles. its a massive club
And in the last few years santorim had the brownlees and gones as club members so I guess thats what you call successful in no ironman racing lol.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Anna s] [ In reply to ]

Jun 14, 18 1:23

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Anna s wrote:

motorcity wrote:

Anna s wrote:

Team Erdinger Alkoholfrei concept with 5000 members.

I would rather call that an online triathlon community that gives you the DTU pass/license, not really a club where you can go to and regularly meet your team mates. But anyway, there are a couple of such "clubs" in Europe with 1000+ members. Getting a license and probably an online training plan seems to be sufficient for a lot of folks.

Looking at real clubs and looking at Germany, Eintracht Frankfurt and Hamburg Triabolos (if I am not wrong) have 1000+ members. Both probably fall under the "largest" tag, not necessarily under "successful" though...

Slowman only wants US clubs so it doesn't matter really - I missed this point before. Also, Slowtwitch is what I would class as a community. Erdinger is a team or a virtual club. Some people just want a license for as little money as possible, thus the understandable popularity of virtual clubs. Personally, I belong to a traditional club with 1200 members (although the triathlon section is a lot smaller)!

Still might be interesting for some to know what happens outside the US. If not, I will shut my mouth ;-)

Erdinger's Pro's certainly can be called a team. But everything else is a virtual thing. No participation in the DTU league races, no training together etc. Nothing wrong about it, just the not a club. And, well, I am also member of a traditional club, with even more than 50.000 members in total, and more than 1.000 in the triathlon division. But anyway, those are just statistics and does not make anything better or worse...

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [cloy] [ In reply to ]

Jun 14, 18 5:51

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cloy wrote:

Isn't the Zoot team pretty big?

Team Zoot is about 300 members. Also ONE Multisport in AZ is about 200.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 14, 18 6:08

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In Sweden clubs are pretty popular, Kalmar rc is quite big as well as Stockholm City Triathlon, though they pale in comparison to Terrible Tuesday's Triathlon ;)

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Charleslo_99] [ In reply to ]

Jun 14, 18 9:04

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Charleslo_99 wrote:

EMJ is definitely the best armature club. But that is also because people who make it onto the team already proves that they can produce some of the best results and thus is able to bring more people to Kona than teams that are 5 to 6 times their size.
As far as I can tell, Wollongong Wizards is the most successful triathlon club in the world at the moment even without Gwen training with them. They still have McShane, Gentle and a bunch of other ITU guys in the team.
Can't really call Bahrain 13 a club since the guys on it don't train together but rather they just wear the Bahrain 13 logo on their jersey.

Once again here... EMJ is a team, not a club. You have to make the team, a club accepts all. A club is face to face, not virtual

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]

Jun 14, 18 9:56

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Well, not US based and definitely not the biggest one but I want to think we are doing pretty well in terms of both camaradiere and results :)

If interested in some insights from Ironman Global Champion in the "smallest clubs division", that is sub 50 racers, just drop me a message! Not every team or club is interested in growing the numbers, for us its making our athletes faster, healthier and more happy is enough... Kona AG wins doesnt hurt though :))))

When you think of some top international successes it is hard to miss work of Joel Filliol, Paolo Sousa, Jamie Turner or Ian O'Brien, who created great squad environments that are just textbook examples of what it takes... great inspiration for AG athletes as well!

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 14, 18 10:30

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There are also clubs that exist to exploit vanity and low self esteem to create an alternative delusional FOMO social media universe that balances out real life... like Team Betty.

There you can leverage all kinds of filters and edits to hit your social media quota, complain about all the creepers who DM from your provocative poses and use IG as a dating app to develop future intimate relationships without your SO knowing about it.

I believe they also exist to sell 'activeware' with faux-profanity to appear edgy. Although all those selfies seem to limit actual athletic achievement.

So maybe not successful, but still large.. and with a huge pool of potential insecure applicants working hard on increasing their likes and follows for next season's team?

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [HankRearden] [ In reply to ]

Jun 14, 18 13:41

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HankRearden wrote:

There are also clubs that exist to exploit vanity and low self esteem to create an alternative delusional FOMO social media universe that balances out real life... like Team Betty.

There you can leverage all kinds of filters and edits to hit your social media quota, complain about all the creepers who DM from your provocative poses and use IG as a dating app to develop future intimate relationships without your SO knowing about it.

I believe they also exist to sell 'activeware' with faux-profanity to appear edgy. Although all those selfies seem to limit actual athletic achievement.

So maybe not successful, but still large.. and with a huge pool of potential insecure applicants working hard on increasing their likes and follows for next season's team?

this reminds me of a Dave Chappelle routine.

“The girl says "Oh uh-uh, wait a minute! Wait a minute! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a whore!" Which is true, Gentlemen, that is true. Just because they dress a certain way doesn't mean they are a certain way. Don't even forget it. But ladies, you must understand that is fucking confusing. It just is. Now that would be like me, Dave Chappelle, the comedian, walking down the street in a cop uniform. Somebody might run up on me saying, "Oh, thank God. Officer, help us! Come on. They're over here. Help us!" "Oh-hoh! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a police officer!" See what I mean? All right, ladies, fine. You are not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.”

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 15, 18 6:41

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I think the underlying discussion here boils down to whether or not we are lumping teams (which often have an application process and are not open to all) with clubs, which tend to accept all members so long as they pay whatever dues are required of them.

Either definition is fine, but I think it does color the discussion a bit (see, e.g., the rather brutal takedown of Betty above).

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]

Jun 15, 18 7:18

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rrheisler wrote:

I think the underlying discussion here boils down to whether or not we are lumping teams (which often have an application process and are not open to all) with clubs, which tend to accept all members so long as they pay whatever dues are required of them.

Either definition is fine, but I think it does color the discussion a bit (see, e.g., the rather brutal takedown of Betty above).

I often wonder if WTC has any discussions about this team vs club concept. A team in the truer sense is not going to score the points to be able to win any of the Ironman divisions. They just don’t have the numbers. Per capita points are probably outstanding for something like EMJ but it’s nothing in comparison to a large coaching-based club like EN from an overall points perspective. EN will never be dethroned at the top of the Div 1 rankings as the system now stands.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]

Jun 15, 18 7:35

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IMO I don't think WTC particularly cares about the distinction.

However, for the purposes of this discussion, I think it's relevant. When I think of "successful," I'm thinking of:

Are they good stewards/representatives of the sport?
Do they look to build relationships in their local community beyond "may I have a discount at your store?"
Do they encourage new participation in the sport?
Are they open and inclusive to all? Or is there a screening process for participation?
Is the club population growing, or in the face of the overall sport's decline in participation, maintaining their membership?

Under my criteria, I think most team's would fail due to their nature of selection--there is inherent exclusivity to their selection process, whether by race result, or social media presence, or some other requirement.

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]

Jun 15, 18 7:47

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Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [HankRearden] [ In reply to ]

Jun 15, 18 10:15

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HankRearden wrote:

There are also clubs that exist to exploit vanity and low self esteem to create an alternative delusional FOMO social media universe that balances out real life... like Team Betty.

There you can leverage all kinds of filters and edits to hit your social media quota, complain about all the creepers who DM from your provocative poses and use IG as a dating app to develop future intimate relationships without your SO knowing about it.

I believe they also exist to sell 'activeware' with faux-profanity to appear edgy. Although all those selfies seem to limit actual athletic achievement.

So maybe not successful, but still large.. and with a huge pool of potential insecure applicants working hard on increasing their likes and follows for next season's team?

This sounds like a personal issue. Maybe just stop doing creepy things on insta.

Re: The largest, most successful clubs? [Twinkie] [ In reply to ]

Jun 15, 18 11:07

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Twinkie wrote:

Oo so I have a question. Is it worth joining these clubs?

I am near the St. Pete Mad Dogs and the fee is very minimal. Does everyone like joining them? I tend to workout solo but my lord is gets extremely boring after a while haha and unfortunately all my friends are lazy alcoholics who want nothing to do with what I do

I haven't lived in tampa bay area in a few years but when I did I know KLR would do running speed workout,s once a week, a swim workout, and a group ride each week. they were free for even non KLR athletes. I assume they still do that.

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