I'm eyeing this up as my dreambike in 1-2 years. Not being a FOP finisher i have just one question: The tool storage box, how much can you fit in there? And, is there a draft box for the bike (as with BMC/FELT/QR)? Personally for an IM i would prefer carrying 2x tubes 2x CO2, multitool, so would be nice to get that out of the way in a non aero penalizing way.

very much looking forward to your comparison against the P5!

imo this is the most attractive tri bike out there. the lines are just gorgeous.

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There is room for 1 spare tire, 2 CO2 cartridges, CO2 adapter and a pocket in which I have 2 tire levers but here you could also fit a small multitool. A draft box is not available

Brad,

To be more "inclusive", would you mind changing the thread title to CF and SLX ? I have the CF model but would like to share ownership related stuff in the same thread if possible.

Thanks!

That is one hell of a gorgeous bike.

I based it off of the other “official threads” and how they were model specific, at least from what I have seen.

May be worth starting a CF thread as I am sure there are more owners out there as well. Although similar bikes, I am sure the nuances of each model are quite different. Ie: flying and packing the SLX is much different than the CF.

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Thanks for starting this.
I agree with all your comments.
A unique challenge I find with my SLX (or any built in hydration system) is knowing how much I have drank during a race. A bottle you can see and notice an amount.
Not a complaint, just a different challenge.
For future possible owners- check their website daily to find inventory. A pain, but better than waiting for them to let you know a day late that they had some available the day before.

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1 spare *TUBE*, think it’s impossible to fit a tire in there on its own, let alone with all that other stuff.
To the original question, whatever extra you can’t fit in the tool storage area, you could move into the bento box.

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Beauty!

How is the shifting with the Ceramic Speed pulley? On my Felt IA its a little choppy in the middle gears. I think it has to do with the integrated hanger as the limit and indexing of the RD has been done by some top LBS folks here in LA.

Great idea to start a post about us CF SLX owners!!!
I added the SLF Motion Ceramic pulleys and so far so good.
I come from a P5 Three, so when I got this bike I felt a humongous positive difference I was not expecting at all.
My only “bad experience” so far was that the front hidration thing flew off the bike when I stopped at a redlight while descending on a downhill, carrying it full of water.
These are a few pics of my rig setup

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Nice bike, man. Is that Central Park? I see a guy riding around on a Speedmax some mornings. What are your thoughts on the horizontal dropouts?

Hi, Jonathan! I know a guy who rides in the park who has the same bike. I ride on my Kickr 99.9% of the year. I've only been in the park for this pic and a couple of loops.

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I haven't had any issues with the shifting with it. Have you contacted CeramicSpeed support?

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Another SLX owner chiming in! Also went with Ceramic Speed and like Brad, I have added 51 Speedshop extensions. I can echo you can fit a tube, full size tire lever, CO2, and chuck in the top tube/seat tube internal storage area, but it tight and I use a bit of black electrical tape in the cover to make sure it doesn’t pop off.

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May want to see above about my comment on stuffing the tube in the top tube to create more space in the compartment ;) Something I figured out the other day randomly.

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I slide the CO2 and chuck into the top tube and the tire I stuff down the seat tube with a bit in the top. :)

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Nice, may give that a try as getting the tube down there as a bit of a pain, but it works and doesn't rattle!

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Thanks for starting this, Brad. Indeed, I'm in every so often.

If you have any questions related to fit, availability feel free to DM me, or for a quicker reply email me at jprasuhn@canyon.com.

With all the minutae elements (storage capabilities, etc), absolutely hit up Brad; I haven't put as much daily utility on the SLX as Brad has (I'm still waiting on one too... but waiting until y'all get one before I take one out of the small stock available!). We do have some small parts in our warehouse available for order (derailleur hangers, etc.) We are working hard to get small parts. We do have many SLX fit parts (spacers, etc.) but are still awaiting several pieces including that rear hydration unit.

And as it's probably questions A1 in the minds of many: when will the next lot of Speedmax CF SLX models be in the United States? We have been hoping to get a small shipment of SLX models in this month (June), but it looks like that is pushed back to sometime in July. We have our email notification system in place, andwill send an email out to those who subscribe as soon as the models are received, checked over and made available on the website. Checking the site next month is worthwhile as well, and of course you can call our team at 833.226.9661 anytime M-F 7a-5p Pacific for updates. We don't know when models will arrive, as we don't get notification on when ships come to harbor, when bikes go through final touch, etc.... we only know the day they are going up. We wish it was more specific, but it simply isn't possible at the moment.

Ping with any questions, anytime...

-Jay

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Thanks for the update Jay!
I have the SLX 9.0 and love it.
Thought I would hate the saddle as I am old and have been on a traditional long nose saddle for 37 years of Triathlon, but I love this saddle!

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Glad the saddle has worked, but certainly saddles are one of those personal things... they either work or they don't, and sometimes even the slightest nuance in shape (let alone lopping off the entire nose) can upset the balance of things and bring things to a head... so to speak. Nice thing is, that's an easy swap piece. All told, glad you're enjoying your bike... including the saddle.

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Great to have someone from Canyon in this thread! Thanks a lot for jumping in Jay.

*UPDATE* on my front hydration bottle, Canyon shipped a replacement last night. I'm VERY happy with your post-sale support.
I am one of the fans waiting for the rear hydration bottle cage holder, I hope I can get my hand on one of them for the season!

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My wife's Canyon

Thanks heaps. If I'm not out at events (I'll be in Kona fwiw), I'm in office with our inside team, who are here all day to answer questions. So if you don't hear from me directly, call our guys and gals at 833.226.9661... they are absolutely dialed. We aim to have the best service in the game, and I'm proud to hear everywhere that they're doing a fantastic job.

And rear bottle holder... we are trying! I know this is the one forum that cares about that single piece of equipment, so I'll keep you all here up. As soon as I know, you'll know.

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Thanks again, Jay! Enjoy your weekend!

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I've been waiting for this thread. Here I am!

 
Since a sponsored athletes review is a little biased. Here my take after owning a SLX and P5.

Aerodynamic. P5
I have a P5 three with a Tririg brake and it tests faster than my SLX on the velodrome every time.

Braking. P5
Power and adjustment is equal but if given the choice I’ll choose standard mount brakes. They are easier for recabling and never have to worry about not finding a small proprietary parts.

Storage/hydration. P5
I found out I do not like drinking from a straw. I want two standard bottles and bento box for gels. This is not a clean set up on the SLX. If you put a BTA bottle and remove the hydration on the SLX the bento will be out in the wind. I guess I could run a BTA over the integrated system... but prefer the simplicity of BTA and BTS bottle. Spare I just put under the seat/inside the bento box so the storage on the SLX is nice but not needed in my set up.

Traveling. P5
Take the bars off and secure them to the frame. Put the bike in any type of bag or hard case I wish. The SLX.... start looking for one of the huge ridiculous cases that allow the bars to remain mounted.

Warranty. P5
Obviously both are limited to their terms and conditions but Cervelo is lifetime vs 2 years.

Product Support. P5
I can call Cervelo today and get any part on the bike. I can’t say that for Canyon. Maybe one day.

Looks. Speedmax
It has cleaner lines and looks fantastic.

In my option the P5 three is still the gold standard.

Although I have not "tested" the bikes on a velodrome, I agree with most of these points. That being said, there are so many "superbikes" now in the market, that I am not sure if the P5 is still the gold standard of the bikes. (P5X is definitely NOT it)

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Here is my Canyon CF SLX, got much training to live up to its name though :D

Despite the P5X testing better in EVERY test I’ve seen so far???

I’m not some P5X fanboy but it’s by all accounts it’s a super fast, if not the fastest, bike on the market. Not sure why people really don’t want to embrace what has been a fact so far. Price and aesthetics aside.

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Definitely not a P5X hater, but maybe your last two sentences are the reason why it's so unpopular.

Also, when you bring a new (not really) disruptive design to a market dominated by many brands whom are barely different from each other, you should expect some resistance. That's just human nature.

When it got difficult to get the Speedmax CF SLX, I remember I secured a P5X Ultegra at a bike shop, as a plan B. All I wanted was a superbike, P5X was my consolation bike if the Speedmax didn't happen.

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how on earth can you handle that saddle? i tested one out and it was soooo painful. i wanted to like it because its such a good lookin' saddle.

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I want to add:
Fitting yourself onto the bike. Speedmax.
The geometry of the P5 limits a lot of people who are not long legged. You will not get into a long and low position on a high and short bike.

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That’s funny! I thought I would hate the saddle. I have been cycling since I was a kid (now 63) and have been doing tris since ‘81, and I love the saddle!

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I did a the bike fit and I am lucky that my tailbone fits :D However I have not tried ISM yet, still want to give that a go and see it that would be better, wonder if anyone can chime in on this.

Assuming you were saying I am "a little biased"..........
Just to correct you here, I have been transparent in everything I do, and every company I have worked with/partnered with/been sponsored by I have been a paying customer to start, that goes with Canyon as well.

Aerodynamics- Was your P5 setup exactly the same as the SLX, I would go out on a limb to say no, so you aren't comparing apples to apples here. And the velodrome is not giving you real world data, someone can correct me if I am wrong, but you aren't getting the full yaw swing you would see in the real world, or more importantly where you will mostly be riding.

Braking- I think the SLX brakes are much better, at least in terms of sleakness and how the cover is cleaner. I will agree with braking power seems to be very comparable to the maguras.

Storage/Hydration- Yeah, sorry you got this one wrong here. Or we can agree to disagree that it is personal preference. And FWIW, running the integrated setup is faster, or at least it was for me........

Traveling- Yeah, slightly easier on the P5. It really depends how mechanical savvy you are. I have traveled with the bike both ways, base bar off and strapped to bike (didn't like that as much because I run a lot of stack and the pads were pushing a bit out on the bag). I now use the primere box and have no issues with it.

Product Support- You are correct with your statement, although I will say Canyon Customer Service has been great, just unable to deliver on parts request. Seems to be a global Canyon issue, and not just a North America thing.

Overall solid review on your part, and agree with most of what you said.If you want to think I am biased, that is fine, but think my transparency on things stands for itself around here. You will be hard pressed to find many pros that have went from paying customers, to sponsored athletes and really willing to give you honest feedback, at least that has been my experience.

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Which size to buy CF 8?
Armpad reach 510 (L 488-513, XL 508-533)
Armpad stack 670 (L 627-714, XL 654-741)

You're back, I thought you had switched to The Real Starky forum, or whatever the current name for it is... welcome back ;-)

Lately I bought a Canyon Speedmax, but at that time the saddle cage mount of Canyon was not available anymore at their website.

Does anyone have suggestions for saddle bottle cage setup? I prefer a single bottle set up.

Thanks.

My trusty steed. Will sell it as have to take a year off and no point in just letting it sit around.

SpeedFil R3

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Anybody know if the Di2 on the CF SLX 8.0 is Bluetooth/Ant+ compatible? I’ve tried pairing it to the E-tube app on my phone as well as my Garmin 520, but neither works. I’ve watched videos on how to put Di2 in discovery mode, but it doesn’t seem to work. Is this user error or a hardware issue.

Also....Love the bike, but damn, those Ergon pads get pretty slippery once you start sweating.

I also have the CF SLX 8.0 and, I can tell you it's not user error.

There are 2 different Di2 models out there. Wireless and non-wireless. The 8.0 comes equipped with NON-Wireless Di2. Good news is, you can but the wireless unit and make the upgrade. I chose not to, since I do not justify spending the extra money to have one more (Not relevant during races, IMO) metric on my Edge 520.

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Brad,

Thanks for starting the thread. I'm getting back into multisport after some time away, I am currently on my original P3C (2006) and am very loyal to the brand as I have both a Cervelo TT and road bike. I have been considering whether or not I want to go with the P5 of switch to the Speedmax next year. I am very interested to hear your thoughts and opinions on the two bikes as you've ridden both bikes. Some of the questions I have are:
1) which bike is lighter (I know the ST crowd will crucify me for this question due to the aero trumps weight, but i'm a smaller rider)
2) I have heard that putting together a P5 is quite involved, any differences here with the Speedmax?

Once again looking forward to your thoughts on the matter.

Eric

relk, nice looking ride. I have a CF SLX as well. Only had it a couple months and having trouble getting comfy on it. Looks like you've elevated the arm pads beyond stock. What did you use? Just looking - the extensions look like 51 Speed Shops, are the armpad spacers from them as well.... thx for any info

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Do you have the tilt kit? The tilt kit also makes the pads narrower and adds a few cm of stack (and tilts the cockpit about 7-10 degrees depending on which bars you use). It's a must have imo. I also got some shim-spacers (3d printed) do place on top of the tilt spacer to further tilt the pads, have not decided if I should race with that as well. It's very comfy however.

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Do you guys have to put 'tampon strings' on them, so you can fish it out again?! =)

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No I just turn the frame upside and shake until they all fall out!

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mortysct Didn't know a tilt kit existed for this bike. Have looked on the U.S. accessories website but it doesn't show one. I have been thinking of coming up with something of my own i.e.(3d printed) but don't really have that option right now. Only have about 300 miles on her right now but can tell I'm not gonna be able to make this setup fit me the way it is. Definitely need to raise the cockpit. Plan on giving the Canyon customer serv. folks a call today. Will keep you posted. Thx for the info.

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We're still catching up getting a ton of small parts to our website... but we do indeed have the angled spacer kit in stock and available for the Speedmax SLX. IIRC, they are $20 a set. For reference this is the same used by Patrick Lange in Kona last year.

To get hold of one, call our team at 833.226.9661 and you can just order it over the phone.

-Jay

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I hate to be a bother, but any word on the behind the seat water bottle cage?

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Done!

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No bother, Karl.

We don't have visibility on when those guys will arrive. As as I understand it, the shortage is being experienced by our Germany partners as well. It's probably the simplest part of the equation, but for now, we are in a holding pattern on when the hydration brackets will arrive. I guarantee you, I will put out an APB when they are.

-Jay

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While everyone is asking about accessories, can you help me on how I can get a replacement cover top for the Spare Part Kit. The roads where I ride are always so bumpy, and after a few time it came off... I am using tape over for now, but it looks so ugly :(

Hi Eric,

Sorry for the delay here on coming back to you, definitely the most popular topic is comparing the P5 to Speedmax, briefly did it above in another post, off the back of another users comparison. But will answer your questions directly.

1) I did not weigh my Cervelo before disassembling it, and did not have the same wheels with me to do an exact comparison. Wish I would have done this as it is a popular question. Need to weigh the Speedmax again, but off the top of my head believe it was ~22lbs, and that was with FLO Disc / FLO 9, no bottle cages, but had tool kit in the storage compartment (2x Co2, Tube, Multi Tool, tire lever, air chuck), as well as both the bento and integrated bottle on.

2) I believe all super bikes that have this amount of integration and "clean" setups will be a touch harder to work on and assemble/disassemble. It really depends how mechanically savvy you are. For traveling it really comes down to what case you are traveling with and then what size bike you ride, along with how much stack and how far your extensions go out. All of those variables can dictate the amount of disassembly you have to do. If you are able to leave your base bar on with your case, and are running the "V-Bar" on the P-5, then I would give the head nod to the P-5 in ease of tear down and re-assembly. If you have to take off the base bar, then the head nod goes to the P5 as it would only be 4 bolts, to the P-5's 7 bolts. Think we go back and forth on this a bit in the above posts, but not positive. Definitely something I will cover in my P-5 vs. Speedmax blog whenever I get it up.

Lastly, the biggest selling point in my opinion is the Speedmax was built with integration in mind, where the P-5 you need to decide what after market integration you want to use, some good options out there, but nothing nearly as clean as what the Speedmax has done.

Good luck with whatever direction you go in, I was on Cervelo for a long time and was always happy with the bike(s) I rode. I am super happy with the Canyon as well, and really like all the integration.

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I have, in Sweden, an expected delivery for the bottle mount at 13-17 aug. We'll see. Racing IM Sweden the 18'th and Im not overly confident lol.

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Jay, Thx for the info. I called and ordered both available spacer kits yesterday. The customer service guys were great. But having said that, without this forum I wouldn't have know they were available/existed.

Thanks again.

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That's good to know that you have a shipping and delivery date. Fingers crossed for you. Let me know if it show on time, or doesn't... it's a helpful bellwether for me to determine our USA expectations on arrivals, etc.

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Agreed... it's why I stick my nose in here every so often to see what y'all are up to. ;-) We will get to a point where we have all pieces/parts online, but the USA operations are truly operating as a startup, so we have growing pains with fleshing out the site. We'll get there... but glad to have the forum here to let y'all know what we've got on. And really glad we have the parts for you!

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I keep looking for this on the classified ads and telling myself I can actually afford it. You listing it?

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Jay, just wanted to let you know that I received the two spacer kits for my SpeedMax that I ordered. Ordered them on the 3rd after seeing your post that they had them in stock; and received them on the 9th. Customer service was great.
Thanks again.
Mike

p.s. If you get any skinny on when they have the rear seat post mounted bottle cages would appreciate it.

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The bottle mount is back in stock on the german website. Finally able to order mine. Worth checking your respective country sites from time to time I guess.

Group,

I'm pretty embarrassed, but I can not figure out how to increase the pad stack to the max stock potential. I can only get 1 20mm spacer and one small spacer + the bars on. What am I doing wrong? Can't find any content, probably because others aren't having issues.

Any help would be appreciated, super frustrated.

Thank you!

You should be able to get 2x "big ones" and 1x "small one", that is what I had done to reach max stock stack height. It mentions it in the user manual, don't worry I missed it the first time as well ;)

From base bar it should go (bottom to top)
bolt connecting all of the below (longest one it comes with, female version)
base bar
2x shim/washer
big spacer
2x shim/washer
big spacer
2x shim/washer
little spacer
2x shim/washer
Extension holder
2x RED shim/washer
Switch Plate
Bolts connecting all of the above (longest one it comes with, male version)
Arm Pads
Bolts from arm pads into switch plate

I just looked at mine assembled and I believe the above is correct, someone correct me if I am wrong.........

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The number one question I have gotten since switching to the Canyon Speedmax CF SLX is "How does it compare to the Cervelo P5-6?" I wish it were that easy to just say one is better than the other, but honestly if I put a blindfold on you and had you ride 2 brand new bikes, I really doubt you would know the difference. That being said, there are some significant differences between the 2 bikes, so I will try to highlight those below.

First off, to be completely transparent here, I am "sponsored/partnered" with Canyon USA/North America. I did PAY for my bike, although with a discount. So some may think this is a biased post, and I get that. I have been transparent in everything I do, and with every company I have worked with/partnered with/been sponsored by, I have started off as a paying customer beforehand.

Full review/thoughts can be found here: https://www.bw-tri.com/single-post/P5vsSLX

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I'm considering buying this bike. My big open question is traveling with it. Can anyone on here comment on what's involved to pack it into a standard soft case like the Evoc Bike Bag Pro, which is what I have? How many bolts? Do you have to do anything crazy (like rerun cables)? How long does it take (first time, and then after you've done it a couple times)? Etc....

I don't really have store space for a big hard case like the Premier and don't really want to drop another $1000 on one of those crazy looking Scions that allow you to keep basebars mounted. I'm cross-shopping the SLX with the BMC TM01, where the whole front-end easily comes off thanks to their innovative "brake booster" setup. Concerns about traveling with the SLX are probably my biggest reservation (with the recall tire-clearance issue my biggest reservation on the TM01, which is arguably a bigger issue).

From my blog post above

For the Evoc and SLX, it comes down to how much "stack"/spacers you are running. If running the bare minimum, then it would be quite simple, 4 bolts to remove the base bar, flip it to the side and strap it to the bike. I traveled with it like this 1x, but as mentioned with the amount of stack I was running I just didn't feel comfortable with it like that. Sure, I could have removed the bar as mentioned above, then removed the spacers/pads/extensions completely and then used the EVOC, but that would be more around 40-50mins disassembly/reassembly time, to right now I have it down to 20-30mins max w/ the Premier Bike Box, and at the amount I travel that is a big difference in my opinion and was worth the switch. Don't get me wrong the EVOC is a great bag/case!

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Thanks a ton! Agreed, anythign near an hour of packing/unpacking is a PITA. But what you described is not nearly as bad as I was expecting. I though I read somewhere that it was damn-near impossible to pack.

I'd be running close to max stack (635mm, stack range for Medium is 530-650), which does have me wondering if the bike will fit at all (or handle odd with so much stack), but I'm thinking I might just order the CF SL and SLX and just keep whichever bike fits better. The fit problem with the CF (stack 605-692) is it doesn't give me much room to go lower as my flexibility improves ( I'm coming back from a knee surgery), plus I like having the "best".

Guess it depends if you consider yourself mechanically inclined or not, I don't think it is that bad, but I do pretty much all of my own wrenching.

And obviously the more you do it the more proficient you become at it.

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I finally decided to go with the Scicon Triathlon version. Not my 1st choice TBH, but I am not willing to spend 2 hours sweating my ass off dismantling my bike at home and then going through the same BS in some strange foreign country that if anything goes wrong, I'm screwed. (I'll be racing mostly in Asia for the rest of the season)

I used to have the Biknd Jetpack for my P5 and I loved it. The Scicon does not require me to do anything on the bike, so I'll be using that. Wish me luck, because it looks like the bike is traveling completely naked.

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Buy some pads from Albo Pads. They're easy to wrap around the tubes, stays, etc., on your bike to protect it while in the Scicon bag. I never fly my bike without them.

I've had about 10 flights with Canyon Speedmax CF SLX (M size) and Evoc Travel Bag (non-Pro edition) and everything is good.
I remove the aerobars and spacers (but don't touch any cables) and clip them to the frame with a duct tape. Also I store all my clothes, wet suit, shoes etc inside.

It takes about 30 minutes I guess. The most difficult part is the aerobars and spacers.

Karl, we're you able to get a canyon bottle adapter kit for your bike yet.. I'm still surfing the Canyon website - almost daily hoping they'll get some.... hmmm.... hey Jay.... any word on an upcoming shipment????? Thx.... MFlinn

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No word on them.
Still waiting

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Here is what I did (and have done in the past for other Canyon bikes with sold out parts). It's a bit of a PITA but it works.

First set-up an account with a mail forwarding service in Germany. I used Mailbox.de without any major issues https://www.mailboxde.com/. Their customer support was very responsive and helpful when I did run into a couple small issues (had one large shipment exceed duty restrictions, so we broke up the package into multiple smaller shipments to avoid duties).

Go to the European Canyon website: https://www.canyon.com/...egory=11459#id=60142

Buy whatever accessories you want and ship them to Mailbox.de. For my Ultimate, for example, I order different a couple different integrated handlebars/stems and returned the ones I didn't keep.

There are some hoops you have to jump through on Canyon's site, for example, they don't have USA as a dropdown in the Country list when you input credit card, but you can pay via PayPal to bypass this.

When Mailbox.de gets your package, they email you and give you some forwarding options. I used DHL express for one package and it arrived quickly. For one package I used "Czechpost" and it took forever (causing me to miss a return window, so if there is any chance you'll want to return the item, skip that).

I think I paid about $50 USD for each DHL box (containing $400 handlebars). So not cheap, but it was the only way to get the items I needed without endlessly waiting for Canyon USA. My guess is it would be cheaper if you're only ordering a small cage adapter.

You can't buy/forward certain items, and if the amount is over certain values (I think $750) paying duties becomes annoying because there is a lot of paperwork that you're on your own to fill out correctly, but I don't think that will be an issue if all you want is a little adapter.

If/when the Ultimate AL SLX frameset come back in stock, I will order one this way as a beater/rain-bike version of my Ultimate CF SLX 9 Pro. (Mailbox.de won't forward complete bikes, which is unfortunate, as they offer some configurations that I better in my opinion).

Anyhow, hope this helps some. Worked for me.

Thanks for the info. I thought there might be a workaround but didn't know how to go about it. You'd think that Canyon U.S. could keep up with something as simple as a bottle mount. Thx again, gonna check it out.

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It's not a Canyon US thing from what I have heard/seen. It seems to be a global Canyon issue.....I haven't seen them listed on the German site, US site, or UK site. UK Customer Service had no idea on time frame and the US estimate I have heard is not passed with no new updates. Maybe Jay will know something more and come on here and chime in.

German site: https://www.canyon.com/...ories/?category=T344
US Site: https://www.canyon.com/en-us
UK Site: https://www.canyon.com/en-gb

If someone would crack the code and 3D print them they would sell a ton of them ;)

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Has anyone purchased an SLX with the long stem option? If so, do you have pictures of what it looks like with storage installed? Gap between hydration and bento should be an easy fix by drilling new holes, but I'm curious about whether there are other gaps. For example between hydration and head tube.

I originally opted for the Speedmax CF, but I changed my mind and want to get a Speedmax CF SLX instead. I was fitted for the CF with size M.
The SLX size M might fit me best (if at all?). My pad stack would be pretty much maxed out (I do think my stack could be lowered after training in the aero position for longer periods of time). I assume the maximum pad stack in the geometry table at canyon.com also requires the raised basebar option instead of the default flat bar?

My bike fit measurements:
Length: 6.04' (184cm)
Inseam: 34,96' (88.8cm)
Saddle height: 770
Saddle setback: 30
Pad stack: 653
Pad reach: 468

What do you guys think? Would size M be a good fit for me?

I'm 186cm and legs are 92cm, I ride canyon speedmax slx in size M.
Feel good, L definitely would be too big.

I see Swiss side, Canyon and Sauber F1 have been working together for Patrick Lange' s title defence.

What ever the outcome it's due to be released on the 4th of October - new Speedmax?

Though I notice he is now rocking custom bars so the pedestals are much closer together than the stock bars like Frodeno. This means they integrate into the hydration system so much cleaner.

Your best bet is to give customer service a call and discuss it with them. I'm not a fit expert, so don't want to steer you in the wrong direction.

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I do not believe that is an option in the US at the moment, not sure when it will be an option. Hopefully Jay can chime in and maybe shed light on that, and maybe he has seen bikes that are setup with the different bars. I'll ping him to hop on here and hopefully give better info.

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I shot them an email and the long stem will be available in the US. There will be a gap between the hydration and nutrition storage but that's an easy fix, probably. Was hoping someone has seen the setup or has pictures. I don't like bothering customer support with too many questions before being ready to pull the trigger (I have one more IM before off season).

Very much hoping they make the narrow pedestal standard. Makes a lot of sense to hide it behind the hydration system.

Just to answer my own question regarding stack sizes in regard to the different basebar options:

basebar, S, M, L:

• Riserbar 567-647 595-675 629-709
• Flatbar 542-622 570-650 604-684
• Dropbar 504-610 532-638 566-672

Hope that helps some people, because I couldn't find this information anywhere online...

I think the majority of people would not be able to ride it with the narrow pedestal due to how narrow it brings in your arms. I would love to have that setup as my arms are relatively narrow, but don't think that setup is easily had these days. Not even sure if Sarah Crowley has it..........

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Sorry I may have used "pedestal" and "spacer" interchangeably. It doesn't have to be narrow at the pads. I'm envisioning the narrow spacers, almost like a mono-bar, and the mounting surface with adjustable width. Like TriRig Alpha One. Narrow spacers do not have to mean narrow pad width. I just think it makes sense to get the the spacers out of the wind if they can be behind/in the bottle area.


Thank you! I was looking for this. I'm currently at ~620 mm stack and ~560mm reach. Considering going lower and maybe longer but can't on my 58cm P5 as I'm already slammed and maxed out on reach. The Canyon seems to be one of the few bikes that is both lower and longer. The dropbar and 85mm stem options would put my current fit right in the middle of the adjustable range. Bless Canyon for offering these options!

I am looking for the L bend extensions that seem to be available in Europe when ordering a new bike. Are any available in the US?

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I’ve now got one ride in on my Speedmax. Lots to love about the bike, but I have a few questions for the pros here.

First, is there any way to widen the pad spacing beyond just setting them to the inside of the two rows of holes on the pad-holders? I’d love them about 1-2cm wider.

Second, any recommended solutions for as longer drinking straw?

Third, I’m running HED Jet Black wheels. I have the brakes set as wide as they can go, but I’m getting brake rub. I can open the QR, push the wheel to the side and close it, and the wheel will spin freely, but out pressure on it and it slips back. Is this an issue with the dropouts or the fork, or something else. I should note that when I mounted the zipp it came with out of the box, the same pad was rubbing on the same side.

I would like arm pads a bit wider too, but do not have a solution.
I ride a set of Hed Jet wheels, not the Blacks, and had to release the knob on the quick release all the way out. To go out farther I believe you would need to loose the cable. May need a mechanic to do it.
Longer straw- try a hardware store for tubing. Mine suits me fine as is.
Canyonjay on here is helpful. Try giving him a PM.
Or call there service department.

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Did you not get the Team switch plate set included with your bike? You can use this to get extra width - see page 56 of the manual.


Adding a bite valve to the end of the straw would give you a bit of extra length if you only need 1-2cm. It also stops splashing.

Thanks, I wondered what those were. Page 56 of my manual is German. The English reference to those pieces in my manual is less clear about their purpose.

The English bit in my manual is after the German section.

Indeed, Canyon has the Switch Plate Kit, a reversible plate that allows the pads to mount in further lateral (an extra inch or so on in or out each side), and the Rear Switch Plate Kit, which allows for both added lateral mounting as well as added fore and aft pad placement.) We have the Rear Switch Plate Kit in stock at $20. They don't live on the website in the accessories section, but call our team in-house (number on top of the website) and you can order it direct.

And yep, Hed Jet we've found are the widest wheels... Just fitted an athlete last week with a new set, and was able to just roll that barrel adjuster out a bit for clearance.... YRMV.

Hope this helps!

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For anyone that wants the rear storage brackets they are now available in the US. I just ordered mine through phone. Not sure if it’s on the website yet!

Thanks Jay! I ordered both the switch plate kit and the rear hydration bracket.
Finally!

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Yep, so let that be the official call: WE HAVE SPEEDMAX REAR BOTTLE HOLDERS IN STOCK!!! As it stands, we have 39 of them in stock, so if you've been waiting on one, strike while the iron's hot! As previously stated, they've not been populated to the website, so call our team at 833.226.9661 and order up.

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Got mine!

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They must have sold out fast because I'm seeing they are not available...

You may want to call them to be sure.

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Hi folks! I'm between the Premiere Tactical or the Canyon Speedmax CF SLX 8.0 right now. I'm curious on some things
-I see that the cockpit can be set at 7 or 0 degrees. Is there any in between here? Any 3rd party solutions?
-I see in Europe you can essentially buy a Speedmax CF SLX 8.0 without nice wheels. I'd love this option considering I have wheels already, rather than having to sell back the canyon wheels after buying. Looking for all thoughts/ advice here.

The premiere is a super, super compelling option. I already have a Scicon bag, but love the Premiere option. I'd sell my Scicon to get the premiere box, can buy the bike without wheels, and have more flexibility in the fit. The only things that the Canyon that Premiere doesnt are a.) Integrated storage and b.) the brand. I love the canyon brand and the athletes involved. I really love the look of the Canyon as well.

I think if Canyon was to have a nice Black Friday Sale too, I'd probably pull the trigger. I was planning on waiting to buy a bike until January (traveling for work through december) but im biting at the bit.

I'd love to hear more reasons as to why I should go for Canyon.

Thanks!

FWIW, I called Canyon and they don't plan on having any stock until Jan/Feb.

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They told me 3W last Monday!!

When it comes to the cockpit, does Canyon provides those 0/7 angle brackets in the box? So extra ones to adjust the height?

Nope, those are not included. A set cost 100euro.

From where? I don’t see those kits in their website :-S

Thank you!

You have to request them in the email with your configuration ;)

Pretty smart haha! Thank you for the help!

@CanyonJay can you please confirm you guys won’t have any stock of speedmax until Jan/Feb? That could be a game changer for me. I called the other they and they told me 3 weeks....

Thanks!!

Which speedmax were you interested in getting?

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I've given up on Canyon. They aren't able to keep up with inventory on their popular bikes and their "email alert when in stock" has never worked for me. I've called them to get ETAs for new inventory and it's always been a lot longer than they say. When they do get new stock, I have yet to receive an email alerting me (which you can sign up for) and then what I want has already sold out.

I've decided to stick with my local bike shops instead.

My bad :)

SPEEDMAX CF SLX 8.0 SL

I’ll make it dura-car by myself, which will be way cheaper with Black Friday around the corner. I just don’t won’t those super high dollar Zipp wheels but since we do not have the same catalog that in EU, I’ll have to go with plan B :)instead.

It seems that Canyon bikes come little bigger than the competition... I've been riding M for my whole life (175cm) both road and TT, but the recommend me to go with an S when it comes to the Speedmax.

It depends on the pad stack and pad reach you want to ride:

• In both the 2018 and 2019 frames, there is a choice of stem (65mm or 85mm) that changes the pad reach range possible.
• In the 2018 frames there is choice of 3 base bars and because of where the pads / spacers mount that changes the pad stack ranges possible on each.
• In the 2019 frames, the arm rests mount to a central pedestal, but the pad stack range is smaller and with a like for like "flat" 2018 base bar also a bit taller.
• As noted above there is a team switch plate kit that allows the 2018 arm pads to be both narrower and less pad reach. There is also an angled spacer kit both of which are ordered when you configure the bike.
• The 2018 bikes have a 1-piece bottle, the 2019 bikes is 2 piece that joins under / through the arm pad pedestal.

In my case for pad stack = 620, pad reach (centre) = 509, bb-saddle = 809 (albeit I raced this season at a pad reach (centre) of 533. I'm 181cm tall, but long limbs):

• 2018 medium, 85mm stem, flat bar and pedestalled up quite high. With the longer pad reach I rode this year, it would be the absolute max pad reach possible.
• 2018 large, 65mm stem, drop or the flat bar with relatively few spacers. On the flat bar I cant go down much (~15mm max), the drop bar I'm very near the middle of window, but would need the team switch plate for less pad reach. (Actual pad reach without the switch plate when set like this should be 511).
• 2019 large does not fit as too much pad stack. 2019 medium would fit with the 85mm stem and pedestalled like the 2018 bike.

Anyway I actually ordered a 2018 large, 65mm stem, drop bar and the various accessories. The one-piece bottle and a front-centre much closer to what I like / am used to riding swung it for me. The other bike that would sensibly work for me is a Trek SC, but all depends on your fit.

couple of things. first, it's much easier if by "stack" and "reach" you say what you really mean. is it "pad stack"? if so, please say it, because "stack" means something entirely different.

second, mdiaz is right. canyon bikes are "bigger" than the competition, if by "bigger" what is meant is that a canyon in size small is "bigger" than other bikes in size small.

canyons are "bigger" not in height, but in length. however, it's the length that matters, because the height of a canyon, in an SLX, is quite adjustable. you can - as you know - change the pursuit bar as well as the pads, and quite liberally. you can change the length as well, for fit purposes, but you can't change the wheelbase, and specifically the front-center. you can change nothing below the head tube.

for this reason, i'd ride a size L in a speed concept but a size M in a speedmax. this isn't just a speedmax thing. i'd also ride a size M in a dimond.

you all are about to get a little help on this. because of the heavy interest in canyon tri bikes here, and because canyons are about to become a lot more available in the US, and because this is a consumer-direct brand, and you don't have your LBS in the middle guiding you (which may be a good thing, actually, depending on your LBS), i've enlisted some help in matching you to the canyon you need. this will become apparent to you all quite soon.

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Have you heard anything about availability of Canyon in Canada yet?

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Yes good correction - all that should read pad stack (to top of arm pad) and pad reach (to centre of arm pad). I'll edit up the original.

this i don't know. i can try to find out.

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This is great info, thank you!

I'm actually between those two machines (Speedmax VS Speed concept). It all will depend on the stock/lead time... if I miss the next Canyon re-stock chance, I'll go with the Trek since I cannot wait for another 3/4 months to get the bike!

Thank you again.

Adding the rest of the info I found when researching this, hopefully useful to others

2018 vs 2019 basebar / extensions
Tri-rig posted the CAD for the difference between the 2018 bars (separate pedestals) vs the 2019 (one central pedestal) here. 2019 basebar is slightly narrower and the possible pad stack range is different.

2018 vs 2019 bottles.
2018 is in this youtube video. The 2019 is shown in this Tririg article

2019 arm pad width
The max width is the same for both 2018 and 2019. Standard width is 187mm (c-c), the narrowest with the 2019 bar is 86mm (c-c)

2018 possible pad stacks (top)
Posted by Teeman earlier in this thread.
N.B. the Drop base bar allows you to mount the extensions below the base bars. The pad stack for the drop bar with the extensions above the bar is 592 in size L.

Copied:
basebar, S, M, L:

• Riserbar 567-647 595-675 629-709
• Flatbar 542-622 570-650 604-684
• Dropbar 504-610 532-638 566-672

2019 possible pad stacks (top)
A Size L has a pad stack range of 630-675. The Tririg article said you can increase that by another 10mm with spacers above


2018 possible pad reaches (centre)
N.B. I think the 2019 frame gives the same measurement ranges.


Large frame:

• 
  65mm stem: 484 - 538 N.B. you need the "Team Switch plate" to get the smaller reaches e.g. without, the reach possible here is 511-538
  
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  85mm stem: 504 - 558
  

Medium frame:

• 
  65mm stem: 462 - 516
  
• 
  85mm stem: 482 - 536
  

Speedmax CF SLX 2018 build options are here
Speedmax CF SLX 2018 user manual is here. Team switch plate is page 56 and angled spacer kit is page 57

When you order, someone from Canyon confirms all the details with you to get the bike configured as you would like. Mine should be around 4-5 weeks from order to delivery in the UK.

pardon, maybe you put this in there and i didn't see it, what is your pad x/y? pad stack/reach?

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This is GREAT info, thank you so much, I wasn’t aware of lot of this stuff...

Do you happen to know if we will have those “built options” in USA as well?

I don't for definite, but I'd expect so. 1.) I'd expect the same choice of stems, accessories etc that you dont get the option to select yourself on the ecommerce site and 2.) I was told all the bikes were built specific to the order in Germany before shipping out.

You could email Canyon and ask? I found they were super responsive and helpful.

Will do. Thank you again.

Well... just to keep everyone in the loop, THEY WILL NOT.

I went yesterday to visit their showroom in Carlsbad, CA... such a waste of time from my side. They have no Speedmax whatsoever, just a 3D copy of the 2016 Frodeno's Speedmax, period, no bikes to test or check to find out which size fits you better.
They also told me that the speedmax will come fully assembled from Germany, so no "own build options" will be available, it is what it is.

I went there because I'm having a hard time picking S or M size since 1cm up or down it changes the size for me based on their PPS system.. well, they couldn't answer that for me and the conversation ended up with a "We have one guy 3cm shorter that you which is riding an S, so you can try to buy an S and if it is too short go get a longer steam which it is available to be bought..". So my biggest question wasn't really answered. Having some bikes to ride in the showroom would have really helped.

When it comes to the stock...every other minute the same line came into the conversation "You know, we are very small in USA...", "We are bringing 4/5 bikes but we are expecting hundreds of people trying to buy them"... "We do not know when the next batch of bikes will come after this upcoming one..".
Knowing that there will be hundreds of people waiting for the bikes to show up and the fact that these guys have friends and relatives... honestly, I have lost all the faith in my possibilities. I cannot wait for another 3 months to get (Or not) my new bike so I've decided to go with the Trek Speed Concept which will have $400 off for black Friday :-)

I guess there will be 2 or 3 years before Canyon is really available in USA.

Hey everyone!

I just got off the phone with Canyon, and I just ordered the rear hydration bottle "thingy"! They have a whole bunch of accessories and replacement parts in stock, so feel free to call & order.

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Been a similar vibe fro. My interactions with Canyon USA regarding buying an Ultimate. They cannot get bike/ frames in stock and trying to get an idea beyond “soon” or “next quarter” is impossible. If they could get a shipment of 12 aeroroads, speedmaxes and ultimates each week they would sell out. Instead they just trickle in here and there...it’s like they aren’t even trying to make a go of it in the us. If this was 3-6 months into the us market you could cut them slack but it’s been what, 18 months?

Are their any rumours of a Speedmax CF SLX disc version in the near future? I'm looking to buy a speedmax CF SLX around X-mas/NY but would wait a few weeks if there would be a disc version coming soon

The new 2019 colour schemes and cockpit designs were released at Kona.

We'll probably have to wait until next year.

Cockpit changes are independent of brake type, so I wouldn't be shocked of they rolled out disc mid-season to stagger development

Well I'll need to buy one before next summer, so I might not have the time to wait very long. Some brands have made the step towards disc brakes (BMC, Speciliazed, Quintana Roo, ..) while other wait and I can't seem to find why as disc brakes have better braking performance in any conditions over rim brakes

Does anybody have any thoughts on when Canyon might get some of these in stock? There seems to be some good demand for this bike, but they never have any to sell. I've tried calling twice in the past, but both times they can't give an answer. And the email notice thing hasn't worked, like others have experienced. I may have to get a different bike, but if they are getting some in the next few weeks I could wait.

I think the fact that they can't give you a straight answer tells you all you need. I can't imagine how much business they've lost because they can't get their act together. I'd buy one if I could, but I can't so I'll end up buying something else.

Sounds like they're selling all they can produce. That's a good thing, from a company perspective.

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Not if you're barely producing. I don't know their numbers, but it sounds like they have very limited quantities. If that's their business model, that's great, but I would think they would want production to match the demand---or at least come close to it.

Not necessarily.

it's expensive to produce new products, and risky. They might be OK with a strategy of being a relatively boutique, highly regarded brand.

Their products look good. I'm seriously considering them for my next mountain bike, and if I do land on them as being my ideal, I have no problem jumping through a few hoops to get it.

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Hey @Mdiaz. Have you been to a Professional Bike Fitter who can help you with you size doubt?

Canyon system is kind of a guess based on what they sell and it seems to work for their general clients.

On a speed weapon like that I wouldn´t make the terrible mistake of maybe going for the wrong size.

As a (independent) fitter, I wouldn´t let a client buy with doubts, so I use a Size Cycle (a Retül Müve in my case).

Just today I had a client in for deciding on which bike to buy for his 2019 season, and we ended up deciding on a Speedmax CF SLX Large, already knowing base bar, spacer height, and that he is going to use the 7º angled spacer. We achieved an awesome position as he´s been having some trouble with both his hips (we´re at 21/22º back angle and he feels very comfortable). We ended up testing a 170mm crank, which helped with what we wanted thinking about his injuries.

Not going for a pre-purchase bike fit before buying integrated expensive speed weapons is what I call a "dumb-saving" (translation from Portuguese, sorry), as If you end-up with the worng bike and/or size, you'll spend much more time than you would´ve spent if you had a fit before.

BTW, this thread is looking great. Helped me with differences from <2018 to the 2019 cockpit changes that are not in the Canyon Website.

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CanyonJay, does the CF SLX 8.0 CL hydration fit on the CF 8.0 SL?

Not sure if this adds much to your choices, but.......
I ordered the L bend extensions today from Canyon USA. I am much more comfortable on these bends the the stock shape.

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Nice!

UPS says mine is delivered tomorrow - cant wait! Have both the L and J bend bars (I also found similar extensions to be way more comfortable on the current bike) in the order and the angled and team switch plate kits to find out what is the best fit / most comfortable.

And it is here!

Swapped some of the components to those I prefer. The optional Canyon extensions are really short, if anyone opts for them.

Congrats! Did you buy this in the US or Intl?

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I have the 2018 model, but now I want the 2019 version!

I called Canyon US and, of course, they don't have an ETA, but I could make a 2-day trip to EU and pick it up from there, if they have stock...
Does anyone have SOLID Intel on the real ETA for both US and EU? I posted mine on sale today, and now I have 4 dudes lined up fighting for it, but I don't want to end up bike less for an uncertain amount of time.

Any ideas?

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I was thinking about doing the same thing. Were you going to pay the tariff on the way back or just bring a bike case with you? Also were you trying to get a VAT refund?

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you could order from Germany and have it sent to mygermany.com. They do a ship to/ ship from service. I contacted them this week and was quoted $500-$700 US to get it to California. The hangup would be duty/ tariff on the incoming which would be 10% or so, plus fees from the brokerage. That unknown has me holding off. If you can swing the trip, perhaps with a bikebag, that could make it worth it.

It's a UK bike (with the brakes cabled up for us right = front, left = rear). Canyon UK is based about 20 miles away from me!

My SLX 2019 just arrived. I have been waiting 4 months...no comments.

I am also a bit disappointed as it seems that the new cocpit was supposed to have 7degree tilt option but its either not there or i have no clue how to set it up. Seems i’ll need to spend another 100$ on aftermarket angled wedges...

Are you based out of the US?

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Yep, I am in Poland.

May I ask where do you live? I am in the US and I've been waiting for a 2019 version for quite a while

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Either you guys go to EU and get it there (as I just did taking advantage of my trip there) or won’t get any speedmax in US till 2020. Canyon USA is a joke...

Did Swissside just hint at the Speedmax disc?

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I have heard they are coming out with a new speedmax this fall (kona) and will be a disc. Now, whether Lange will still be sponsored by canyon at that time, that remains to be seen.

Hi all

I have two of the rare behind the seat post water bottle holders.

Does not come with the bothlecage but are the specific canyon add ons for your bikes.

Check out the classified link.

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/.../?page=unread#unread


Regards

Phil

Jeeeeezzzzz, trying to make a buck on these things?!?! Just bought one in the UK for a buddy, $50 cheaper w/ shipping to the states..

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Wow never realized. I just got these over from the uk too! Will have to amend the price ASAP then.

Phil

Any owners out there have a roof bike rack suggestion for this bike? Some of the models that have good reviews have a big interface around the front wheel and I worry there won't be enough frame clearance mechanism to clamp down. For example the Yakima High Road. Do you use a fork mounted rack? I just have always worried about these.....

Hi! Does anyone knows wich bite valve works with the Speedmax Aero bottle straW?

Hi all, replacing the base bars on my 2018 Speedmax CF SLX. Wondering if anyone in the group has some experience in accomplishing this… so far not the most maintenance friendly bike I’ve ever seen. Button shifters and front brake cable – no problem… but the rear brake cable is way above my pay grade…. When taking the old cable off there was not enough cable sticking out of the rear brake to connect anything to pull back through/guide the new. Had to pull the old one out in the blind. Now I cannot get the new cable through the frame to the rear brakes. Anyone out there know an easy way to get this done. (Besides taking it to a bike shop)(None in my close proximity).

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Are there any speedmax slx owners in the San Francisco Bay Area? I’ve been asked by several owners around the world to design a rear storage box for that bike, but in order to do so, I need to have physical access to it to measure and test fit.

If you are in the Bay Area and willing to let me measure your frame, usually 30 minutes of your time, I would offer you a box for your bike at my cost. Private message me if interested

You can see my rear storage box solutions on my website in my signature below.

Thanks

Yann

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Replaced my base bars to the "long" stem version last month. Actually pretty big pain, and like you said, it's the rear brake that is especially difficult. Only solution we could figure out was to loosen the internal battery inside the downtime and try and fish the cable back in. Good luck!! Not sure how I'll ever get it packed in a normal bike box with the stem cable tolerances the way it is now.

Only suggestion is an old trick I've used in the past with internal cabling. Put a good length of dental floss or thread into one hole, then tape over every other hole apart from the one you want to route to. Put a vacuum cleaner over this hole (may also need to tape the nozzle to the frame to get a good seal) and it should suck through the floss/thread which you can then attach to a cable to guide it through. Haven't tried it on a Speedmax but it's worked for me on a few other frames so should do the job. Good luck!

Yea, good luck with the packing, thats always tough, especially to avoid damage.
I'm switching out the flat base bar for the upswung 80mm one. Like I said all was well till the rear brake. So I basically have my bike completely disassembled. Was trying to avoid punching the bottom bracket but after looking closely I don't think theres any way to avoid it. I could see through the BB hole a piece of brake tubing sticking down and it looked like it somehow came through or over the battery holder; I grabbed the tubing to see if I could move it to find out if it went all the way through the frame or just over the battery. Well, I found out pretty quick. That piece is only about three inches long and go's under the BB and through or over the battery holder (came out in my hand). No way to really find out unless I take that bottom bearing out to see past it... I just keep getting deeper and deeper. Problem is that I can't find any info on how this thing is actually supposed to be put together (schematics). Gonna try and call Canyon today to see if anyone in level 2 knows how this thing actually go's back together...

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Hi! Any clue wich bitevalve works for the straw?

I use the camelbak one. Fits perfectly.

https://www.camelbak.com/...43e2804e7505cf6941ec

Sorry for the stupid question, but do you slide the bite valve over the straw, or do you "squeeze" it in the inside?
I just got the camelbak big bite valve and I was unable to slide it over the end of the straw... (which seems the correct way of doing it)

I’ve managed to lose the little square cap that keeps the 2 halves of the integrated hydration system together (the bit with the arrow pointing forward). Have asked Canyon about getting a new one but I was wondering if anyone has a temporary fix?

I don't have a temporary fix, but if you end up needing to buy a whole new hydration system (my guess is that is what Canyon will tell you, as I doubt they'll sell you the one part), I have two that I'm going to list for sale. I ride the 2018 size M, which comes with the "normal" size hydration/bento kit, and also bought a second one as backup (which is still in original packaging). I switched to a longer stem from the size L and had to buy the size "large" hydration/bento kit, so now I have two $250 unusable hydration/bento kits!

I'd go with the good old coathanger - cut a short section (70mm/2 to 3") and bend about 20mm at either end. If you get the bends in the right place it should sit snug against the holes in the bottles but still be easy to pull out. If it is a bit loose, then no dramas, once you get the rubber cover back on it wont go anywhere.

I used the bitevalve of a CamelBack Eddy bottle I had at home. Perfect fit (the bite valve is quite big, but does the job). I also tried the Camelback Big Bite Valve, but it wasn't working at all. I read online that the new Eddy is different from the older models. My best bet would be to try to find one in store and see if it fits.

I am considering trimming the valve down in the future... I will see.

https://www.camelbak.com/...4af9b0af71e14eef5d55

Any chance you could post a pic of your setup with the longer stem? I’m curious what this looks like. Is the hydration unit bigger, and thus, holds more liquid?

Yes, the hydration unit is slightly bigger, a bit longer by a cm or so. But you can barely tell except when you hold the two next to each other. I’ll take some side by side photos and post them later this weekend.

Question on installing Canyon’s Garmin mount. It seems like you need to trim the front of the top piece. I can’t get the top to sit flush. The little piece near the tip of the nose is blocked by the Garmin mount. Did you trim the top part with an exact knife or something?

The Garmin mount also doesn’t seem very aero, sticking into the wind. I kind of wonder if I’d be better off with a “standard” Garmin mount that just clips onto the aero extension and sits between the extensions where the air is already dirtier. Thoughts?

Yup, just cut that small little bit of rubber off the front. I used a pair of scissors.

Maybe Brad Williams can answer this question? He’s taken his Speedmax to the wind tunnel. Not sure if he tested out the Garmin setup though.

I don't have the speedmax specific Garmin Mount, so unfortunately don't have any data for it. Sorry. I actually run a bar fly mount a bit further out on the extensions.

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Here are the two different hydration units side by side. It looks like net net the capacities are virtually identical. For the large version, the cut out for the stem cuts deeper into the front section but it also runs a bit longer. The bento boxes are identical.

(edit: adding the pictures, which didn't upload right the first time)

Anyone has some suggestions on refilling the hydration unit during a ride? I have the 2018 model and after practicing it a couple of times, it's still a PITA to refill it with a water bottle without spilling. I suppose the 2019 unit that comes with the plug is not compatible with my 2018 Speedmax... :(

Aww, bummer. Was hoping there would be a small benefit (more liquid capacity) by using the longer stem setup. Thanks for posting!

You’re correct that the 2019 unit will not work on the older models.
I also have the 2018 model and have had no issue refilling the front bottle during training or racing. Just push the spout of the filler water bottle in past the rubber splash guard and squeeze the water in. Usually takes about 3-5 good squeezes for a full size bottle to completely fill the front unit.
The key thing is to make sure the spout on the filler bottle goes in far enough past the splash guard. If not, the water will just spill out.

Like this...

Hey IronTurtle -- How did you get your ENVE wheels to fit? I just got a set of 5.6 (which are 29mm wide) and I can't get the front wheel to fit inside the brakes. The brakes rub on front. It seems like the issue is the brake cover/faring. I adjusted the cable pull and the little screws on the side and got everything perfectly adjusted without the front cover. But as soon as I put the cover on and press the brakes, the brakes don't release to be fully open, almost like the cover is preventing them from opening back up. I've been riding around without the cover just fine, but that won't cut it in a race or bad weather.

Did you have to shave down your pads or something? Is there something you can do to the cover to make it a bit bigger? Or some trick with respect to how you set the front screws?

I just spoke to Canyon, and they said the max allowable width is 25mm, which doesn't make sense to me, as I believe there are many people running wheels wider than that (HED, ENVE, etc.) on this forum and the Zipps I was running before were 27mm. I guess the combo of 2mm more plus new pads is messing everything up?

Help!

How much brake cable do you have extending out the bottom where it clamps down. When a mechanic re-cabled my bike I had similar issues (I don't run Enve though), but it was due to the cable being left too long and hitting the cover not allowing the brake to fully release. Something to consider.......

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Has anyone found a better (i.e. stiffer) straw than the one that comes stock with the SLX?

I can't for the life of me manage to drink out of the damn thing while riding. The straw gets blown back by the wind and I have to curl my back awkwardly (and dangerously looking down toward my belly button) to drink. I really wish the whole thing were further forward TBH, but a less floppy straw would be a start.

Hi all,

Is this frame cracked or it comes like this?

That's normal! Mine has the same

Thanks!!!

So now that Kona's come and gone, anyone hear of any plans for a disc brake version in the future?

I hope there is no disk brake version. I have the Canyon Aeroad disk and the Speedmax CF SLX and see zero reason for a disk in it.
The recessed brake on the Speedmax are fine for a TT/Tri bike. Frankly, I find the disk on the Aeroad unnecessary.

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Interesting, I have the Speedmax CF SL with TriRig brakes and Aeroad disc and while I agree that both are great the more aggressive riding I do on my Aeroad makes having disc brakes much more fun (vs rim brakes on a road bike).

Hi I am on the edge to get my SLX but one really obstacle not to buy yet is the undetachable basebar. I have scicon hardcase bike and I travel every year with my bike and I would like to travel with the SLX to do races too.

How do owners here travel with the SLX and what are the experiences so far?

Either go to the soft pack case or I use TriBike Transpott. Great luck with them.
I, too, would hate to disassemble the bar/brake system.

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Can anybody point me to the range specs for the current SLX arm pads? They don't list it on the Canyon website. My reach fit numbers work (fore and aft range) but I'm not sure about my lateral pad width numbers. Looking for the min and max lateral adjustment and if those numbers can be increased with optional parts if you need to go wider. Thanks so much!

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It’s detachable, 4 bolts under the base bar.

Sarah Crowley travels with a SCICON hard case.

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Have you contacted Canyon Customer Service via a phone call? They should have those number or be able to get them for you.

Are you trying to to narrow or wide? I’m out of town at the moment but can get you the narrowest measurements if you would like.

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Thanks Brad. I did call Canyon and all the rep could tell me was that they have a range of adjustment but didn't know the numbers. Would be great if they would just have a complete numbers posted since I'm just trying to make sure my pad width fit numbers will work (or get close enough). It's the only number I'm unclear on :(

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There’s a Canyon fit post/thread on the forum if you search. Ian may have the numbers as he’s well versed in the brand and fits.

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Thanks! Posting there now

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Did you (or anybody) figure out a solution to this? I agree. The straw that comes stock is horrible. Would love something like the setup on my camelback hydration backpack.

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I did not. And it turns out the reason the straw was so far aft (too close to my chest rather than my face) was because the frame was too small so I just sold it (to a hopefully proud new owner on this forum).

Does anyone have a 20mm spacer they would be willing to let go if you do not need it? It appears the owner of the bike I just bought shorted me one spacer and I need it. I can Pay Pal you for your troubles and shipping.

PM me what you are looking for. The only part that confuses me though is that the spacers are ALL used regardless of stack height. I'm guessing you have a previous gen CF SLX? Assuming we are talking about the same thing :)

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I just purchased a speedmax, got it built up today. With the canyon Garmin mount that pairs with the hydration system, I can not operate my Garmin with it between the extensions. Thoughts?

Hey guys, just got my new Speedmax CF SLX (as opposed to my now broken old one (thanks Lufthansa)) and I am pretty sure I am missing at least the grub screws that hold the aerobars in place. Anyone got a bill of materials (BOM) of what should be in the box so I can ensure I have everything? The front end redesign from my 2016/17 model is enough that I am not confident I know all the parts that I should have.

Thanks!

Yeah and your P5X never won a single WC Ironman, while Jan Frodeno and Patrick Lange already own multiple titles with their Speedmax SLX's, same thing about UCI ITT, I never see a single P5X, do see some Cervélo for sure though. See how biased this post sound? That is exactly how your post sounded like. Noone needs biased reviews. Next

Anyways, sorry for upping this but I was wondering if the rised HB0048 base bar makes a difference? What are the measurements and by how many cm's was it raised?

Hi all. Has anyone managed to swap out the standard armrests/armpads on a 2017 SLX for ones that give a narrower set up? I have the switch plates on already but looking for less of a gap between the pads. Aside from getting some custom made/drilled I was wondering if there was an easier option - I don't think the Profile Design armrest kits have the right drill holes for the SLX. Thanks.

Hi all,
I am thinking about replacing my 2014 Speedmax CF with a new Speedmax CF SLX mostly because the brake system of the CF is not properly functioning anymore. I have some questions though. Maybe someone here knows the answers.

I would want to swap my P2M powermeter but am not sure whether the bottom bracket is the same for both bikes. Canyon website says pressfit 86,5 for 2014 CF and pressfit 86 for 2019 Speedmax CF SLX. However, on the parts description the Canyon site says pressfit BB72 (which also is 86,5 mm). So will the P2M fit on the new CF SLX?

How narrow can you set the armcups on the CF SLX? From pictures of the new central risers it appears that there is a plate on top which goes wide to the outside. can you also mount the arm cups directly on top of the risers (or is it not necessary and can you get very narrow as it is)?

Can you detach the bento box and ride without it? It appears to be attached with just two tabs (just like a bottle holder?) but I have not seen any pictures without the bento box and the guys at Canyon said it was not possible to detach (?)

thnx, Dimitri

I can't speak to the arm pad widths since I immediately changed out the Ergon arm pads/cups and replaced with the TriRig ones but you can get VERY narrow since there are no separate posts like with the previous generation. The posts literally run up the middle straddling the hydration unit. With respect to the Bento box, I am assuming you are referring to the storage on the top tube? If so, yes, it only attaches with 2 screws if I recall correctly. I remember having to install it when I got mine so you can definitely remove it. Same with the hydration system. You can remove the 2 pieces that connect together but I don't see any reason to remove it other than to clean.

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Thanks TX83!

Very welcome. Cheers!

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Does anyone have a recommendation a bite valve that might work? I tried the one off an Xlab Torpedo but looks like it's too narrow to fill the tube.

Would I be better off with any of the below

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Camelbak-90011-Big-BiteValve/dp/B0019DCVTA/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/...ssory/dp/B07M6RSKBM/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/...-Valve/dp/B01BD5HKHG

I went with the Camelbak blue bite valve and the Camelbak Crux Reservoir on/off Valve (it's great to be able to turn on/off and it also has the barbed end that is needed to insert into the tubing). I also swapped out the tubing (with the Crux tubing) since I didn't like how easily the factory tubing kinked. If you don't go with the Crux tubing, you just have to make sure you get the right diameter tubing so it fits into the hydration unit opening (as well as the bite valve and on/off valve).

Let me know if you want me to add a pic of my setup.

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