Plugging in the aero savings into my best bike split simulation for IM Boulder gets me 8:12 faster (edit - my previous math error had me at 10 watts saved and 6:50 faster - now it is 12 watts)

I understand this really seems like a lot. But that's what the simulations say.

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Does the knob on the back allow you to adjust the cable pull? So you can make it looser or tighter depending on sock usage?

Also, the side carbon piece: how would this feel when pedaling on top of the shoe just after T1 and before T2?

Very fine work!

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Yes the knob allows you to adjust cable tension for different socks, or whatever.

When you put your foot on top of the shoe, the pressure will still cause it to fold down somewhat under your foot. Not as much as normal shoes. It's not super comfy, but it's not painful or anything and you can pedal just fine while you get to a spot where you can put your feet in.

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That is impressive. I love it. And need some new racing shoes. Full carbon sole, super stiff, light, etc. Checks all those boxes I presume?

Side note: You just reinforced the fact that I am dramatically underachieving in my spare time.
Side note 2: I see your name often and just read your bio. Worked on ISS for NASA and design awesome drag reducing tri shoes on the side? Yikes. You are a beast.
Side note 3: I'm going to go take a good hard look in the mirror and try to remain positive :)

Thanks! It may be a tiny bit heavier than the lightest shoes but they will still be very light. Also as stiff as you could ever want! Of course full carbon sole!

Geez, please do not make my bio out to be more impressive than it is or use it to judge yourself.... I have plenty of flaws and plenty of failures. I don't really list those on the bio.

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Very nice. If you ask me, shoes are the last area for big potential improvements.

One thing I notice is all the pedal turbulence. Have you tried modeling something like the Speedplays?

Do you have any CDF images showing a frontal view? It looks like a very high pressure area on the toe. Would a smoother toe box or building some additional arch into the lace cover help?

I've noticed all those things too.

I have done some work with the speedplays in CFD, but I do not yet have a good design that is a real benefit from just attaching them to this standard design. I think I will find one though. I have some more ideas. There have been surprising unintended consequences when trying to improve airflow in front of and around the cleat.

I did a little work with ridging the top of the shoe. It did make a very small improvement. I don't think it is enough to incorporate into the design.

I have not experimented with different toe shapes, but I do plan to.

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Very impressed ... :-)

They look way to fast for me but here's an idea with me thinking out loud - Maybe consider an interchangeable 3D printed 'patch' to seamlessly integrate the back of common type pedal systems with the back half of the sole / fin ?

I guess a good integration with the back of a Keo would make for a very slick underside.

WD :-)

Here are some more CFD images:


Streamlines color coded for air velocity. You can see there is a lot of turbulence and slow air behind the shoe.



Here you can see there is less turbulence and faster air behind the modified shoe.

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Hello RowToTri and All,

Looks great!

When we tested in the LSWT it was a bit surprising how effective our streamlining the pedal/ shoe interface was in reducing drag.

Within the rules ........... the more you can elongate and streamline the heel tensioning device the more effective the drag reduction ... the blunt heel causes a lot of drag.

You can see in the picture below how the Speedplay pedal retracts like an aircraft wheel into the shoe. Also this design has a sole you can run on without slipping.

https://www.shop.view-speed.com/...ion-610098715986.htm

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That can be done but I want to maintain the fore-aft adjustability of cleat placement and that would eliminate it.

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Hey,

Yes, I've seen this photo before. It's pretty slick, but I think it can only be a custom job because it eliminates all adjustability. I'd like this shoe to work for lots of people out of the box.

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Maybe the insert is adjustable as per the cleat and the back part is purposely made long and sacrificial - Set the cleat to suit the rider then trim the back of the insert to mate with the shoe ?

I suppose it could even be graduated to suit the cleat placement so if the cleat is set on line 'x' on the sole then you trim the back of the insert off also at line 'x ' on the insert :-) (if that makes sense lol)

WD :-)

Ya I think something along those lines may be doable. I'll have to play around with it.

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Hello RowToTri and All,

Our design only works with Speedplay pedals .... but the sole we add has no effect on any existing adjustments .... as pedal adjustments... (like float adjustment) ... or shoe adjustments like laces, zippers, or other means of shoe to foot fitment.

The purpose of the View-Speed shoe modification is to help insure that the cyclists will not slip and fall ... or mark up the floor with cleats ..... the aero advantages are inherent to the design but are not primary to the design.

http://road.cc/...-ucis-crono-shoe-ban

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Umm yeah, that makes two of us! And I started out in this life with so much potential :)

Count me in as a shoe buyer!

Adjustable on-the-fly for things like foot swelling on longer rides?

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You would pull the buckle open, twist the knob, then close the buckle again.

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But can the clear position on the sole be moved fore-aft and side to side?

Yeah as shown I think this is UCI illegal. The rounded part of the sole behind the cleat is designed to be easily removable, leaving a normal flat sole underneath. This may be enough to make it UCI legal, even though the buckle on the heel is shaped aerodynamically. It is a functional part.

A road racer could use the whole setup for most of his/her local races and when/if they enter something that has UCI requirements they can remove that part.

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I love the concept. A few ideas for you:

1. Consider some sort of a thin "memory meta" or spring for the top of the shoe to hold it open. It's very annoying when the top of the shoe gets matted down from pedaling on top of it and you have to twist and fiddle with you toes to get your foot "in" the shoe.
2. The more you build up the center of the shoe the faster it will be (at least in my mind). My theory here is that it's better to direct air to the side of the shoe than it is to direct it up toward the shin with any sort of shape that is a "scoop".
3. Please make a wide version! I know the extra lasts will increase your investment but wide-fit tri shoes are so hard to come by that you'd likely have the market to yourself by default.

I'm going to PM you some other stuff.

Thanks for the suggestions.


1: This is what the carbon strips on the side of the shoe do, if I understand you correctly.

2: I did some simulations with this and surprisingly it made very little difference. If you make the ridge deep enough to make a real difference you end up with weird things going on at the top near your shin.

3: This will be a difficult business decision. Even if I make 6,000 pairs in the first run in a single width, some sizes would be made in such small quantities that making tooling for them might be uneconomical. Adding a second width greatly compounds the issue.

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[quote]Please make a wide version! I know the extra lasts will increase your investment but wide-fit tri shoes are so hard to come by that you'd likely have the market to yourself by default.[/quote]


I second and third that. If you can add in narrow heels and really high arches I'd be tempted. It'll take me a lot to pry me away from my 10yo custom D2's but these look sweet.

If you ever want to get them in A2 wind tunnel lmk.

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Since no else has asked. I’m curious.

What is your estimated retail price?

I have no idea at this point what they will cost to make. My goal is to be able to sell them for $250-$300. Hopefully I can make that happen.

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I'll let you in on an interesting nugget: Bont makes most of their shoes to order (if you order from their website). They say "in stock" on their website but the soonest you'll ever get a pair of shoes from them is three weeks (I've bought three pairs from them now with delivery times between three and five weeks).

So the rounded part of the sole is not meant to be used for training, walked in, or to put your foot down while waiting at a stop light? That portion is expected to be easily removed for training purposes, and only put on during races? If so, how is the rounded part of the sole attached to the shoe? Clips? Screws? I suppose they'll need to be tested for security when going over pot holes and such.

I like the idea though, very clever. Not sure I buy the 10 watt savings at 22.4 mph over normal shoe, but we'll see. Even if it's 5 watts at 30 mph, that's still very significant. Best of luck on this going forward.

That removable part of the sole will be plenty strong to walk in and I plan for there to be a little rubber strip on the back to provide some grip. I have not decided out it will attach/detach yet but it will be very sturdy. A few screws, probably. You can train with it or without it as you choose. I actually think it is easier to talk in than a normal shoe because you are not pointing your toes to the sky.

Thanks!

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That's interesting about Bont. While working on this project and learning how shoes are made, I have postulated that the reason Bonts are constructed in the unusual way they are is partially that they do not want to spend the money on heel and toe lasting machines and they want to have their own manufacturing facility.

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Ditto #3. I am all in for easier to get into and more aero. I just need a wide toe box.

These look great. Any Aero gains are great but the idea of the shoe staying somewhat open, allowing my foot to get into the shoe is great.

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I assume you know that aerodynamically-designed cycling shoes have been around since at least 1984 (Puma/Cavanagh/Kyle collaboration), and have been proven to provide significant benefits?

I'm thinking of your possible patent claim... surely Cavanagh and/or Lamson in 1996 filed something? Even if they did, perhaps the closure system is still patentable?

We reviewed lots of aerodynamic cycling shoe patents before embarking on the patents for this design.

edit: Also, as far as I can tell there are no patents on those project 96 shoes, but they would not be a concern for me even if there were. Their existence also does not affect our applications.

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I’m in!

At which "angles of attack" have you done simulations and to what degree does this vary the amount of Watts that can be saved? Since pedaling style may very from pointing the toe quite a bit to keeping it near horizontal for some people. Not doubting your simulations, just curious on how much this has an impact and if you have some simulations on this :) Very nice design and certainly salable at that price point!

Congrats, very nice work! Really like the idea.

I assume these are static RANS simulations? What turbulence model are you using?

I thought about the same thing - the angle of you simulations look like some peoples highest point, while others will be parallel to the floor, and the angle of the feet (and with it the angle of the air coming at it) varies quite a lot. I guess you have taken yourself and your pedaling style as "model"? Have you tried others?

Those really look promising, congrats,
Not sure if it has already been sugested but for those that like to train in race shoes, make a sort of protection for the sole that is removable.

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Hi Ed,

This is awesome work - I wish you the very best pushing the project through to the market. Although I`m not an aerodynamics expert by any means, I am really interested in the factors that you found to affect shoe drag the most through CFD. It looks like the rounded heel delays separation and reduces turbulence behind the shoe. Does the bulge under the sole have the same effect? Did you consider adding any texture to the shoe surface - something similar to the golfball surface on the aero speedplays?

Niall

~250-300$? A narrow-looking heel with a wide-looking front? Aero? Easy entry and closure? Count me in!

...but I'm just here for the CFD porn (currently running my thesis simulations)

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You won't get 10 watts out of these. You might get half that against a super bulky shoe with lots of big buckles, but against the likes of laced shoes like the DMT Pistas, Spec Sub 6, and Empires, they'll likely be about even. Bont Cronos tend to be 1-3w faster than even those options, no I don't see this tri shoe being able to beat it in real world testing.
Also worth keeping in mind that shoes are incredibly personal, so having the fastest shoes on the market doesn't mean much when only a handful can tolerate it for a 70.3.

Yeah, it's the k-omega SST model.

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Results will vary for people based primarily on how toe-down their pedaling style is.

These results are for someone with a pretty normal toe-down position - being flat at the bottom and fairly toe-down at the top.

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The rounded heel allows for the air to fill in the space just vacated by the foot in a more gradual manner, allowing for less turbulence, higher pressure behind the shoe/leg and faster air speed.

The rounded portion under the sole primarily serves to do the same thing with the heel is in the toe-down position, but it also fills in the space behind the pedal/cleat when the foot is completely level.

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Hah - thanks for the confidence! The Bont Cronos get their design wrong in a few important respects for aerodynamics. I expect these will be significantly faster.

Your last statement is quite right though. Shoe width plays a HUGE role in aerodynamics of the shoe. If this is really just a triathlon shoe, it may be difficult to get the volume high enough to make lots of different widths.

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Glad you like it!

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Looking great sorry I couldn’t make it up a couple months ago. Being a dad is pretty busy who knew? Haha

Awesome. Good job. I'll be keeping an eye on development of this.

Just please don't use that typeface.
And offer a couple colour variants too (neutral black/white for example - because kit matching is important)

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Fantastic design, awesome but this - please have a wide shoe!!!!!!!!!!

Looks awesome.
But, of course, the devil is in the details and in the execution.
Hope your patent is tight because some entity will soon will try to circumvent your claims. But hopefully not.

Would love see this make it to market. Let me know if you need any volunteer testers !


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What don't you like about the font? I've been looking for a reason to use it for a while now!

I get the neutral color thing, but making another all black or all white shoe seems so boring. I've always thought Swiss olympic team uniforms looked sharp for some reason and that was my inspiration for the color scheme.

Maybe I'll be able to do 2 color schemes and make one of them a little more "universal"...

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For all of you guys that want a wide shoe, what brands fit you best?

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It's the Comic Sans of "techy fonts" :p

I agree with you. I like the colours. But it opens up sales when you have a second, more universal option. You could make this shoe look pretty ace in black/white/grey - think patterns or overlays of the three tones.

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Yes, and I've still got a long way to go to figure out all of those little details.

I've got a long and successful relationship with my patent attorney and together we are pretty darn good at developing effective claims that provide real protection and we are 100% on getting issued patents.

We have filed multiple patents on multiple features of this shoe.

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Have you considered making the sole using a thermoplastic resin so they can be molded to people's feet? Don't know if that would mess up the aerodynamics, but a couple guys in my lab are using something like that to make ski boots, they think it's really cool.

Lake for me. Wide at the front, but not so much at the heel and not super-high volume like Sidi Megas.

Northwave Tribute. They only make one width but it super-wide, must be EEEE.
I am really an EE but until these die, I'll use them.

For racing I use a high end Northwave shoe that evidently they don't make anymore. It's a little narrow but I am OK for sprints and olys.

Do you mean a heat-moldable footbed or the actual outsole that the cleat attaches to?

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Oops... I made a math error when originally posting. Total drag reduction in the simulation for a pair of shoes at 22.4 mph (36kph) is 1.22 Newtons, or 124 grams-force or about 12 watts.

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Black might be boring but it's a very safe bet for triathlon. White tri shoes get dirty very quickly and any color you choose might limit your market.

I wear Altra running shoes and Bont "wide" cycling shoes. Sidi Mega also fits me reasonably well. I really like the design of the Bont sole as the "bathtub" gives you a very stable pedaling platform. Friends of mine who didn't have wide feet but did have knee problems swear fixed said knee problems by switching to Bont shoes and zero float cleats.

Bont and Altra Like others have stated.

Very clever how the under-heel area goes to a tapered aero "ridge".

That said, if in a race, one wants the aero benefit of this ridge but one must also walk or run with the shoes in T1 or T2 (due to an idiotic rule), how stable will the shoe be when walking?

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I ride Shimano Wide's and have ran in Altra in the past - I think something like the Bont shape or width is the ticket (although I have not tried them)

Ok next question about wide feet... What size?

If you guys are concentrated in the most popular sizes it may be possible to make a wide version for just that middle 50% range and it might be economical.

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Thats a great question - I wear a US 9 wide and depending on the shape of the shoe jump between a 9 and 10.

I imagine 9 - 11 is going to be the sweet spot?

Big-footed guy here, normal width though. 50 in LG and Shimano are prefect for me, but I've been frustrated that Specialized and Pearl top out (I think) at 48...or at least they used to the last time I was in the market for a shoe. Congrats on this - great work!

I can send you the dimensions of my D2's sometime after Tuesday.

better yet PM me where you want me to measure and I'll break out the calipers

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Size 9-10 depending on company. Amazing work, these look awesome

So looking at your CFD images, is the flat area on the heel, that has the ratchet, designed to be a Kahm tail? Did you consider Kahm tail airfoils for maybe the heel bottom to add some stability for walking?

Also, you mentioned that the Bonts have some design flaws. Care to mention what is wrong with the design? I was always curious to know if there was ever any real windtunnel work done by Bont or Rocket. Both of those aero shoes pre-dated CFD and I never saw either company mention their design work.

This looks fun.

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The lever on the back has a gap in it because the cables have to be able to pass through it when it opens. I'm not trying to do a Kam tail. It would be better if I didn't need that gap, but the air is basically converged by then so I don't think it is too detrimental.

The bont shoe has 2 major issues, maybe 3. Most of the time- especially if you are on a TT bike- you are in a toe down position other than at the bottom of the pedal stroke. So the shape of the sole is really important as it is the trailing edge. They have shaped the sole, but they used the wrong shape. I'm on my cell phone so I can't draw a picture easily but it will not do a great job at reducing turbulence and low pressure behind the shoe.

The second major issue is that they extended the toe into a pointy shape, like a jet fighter. When the shoe is level this is probably beneficial but when it's in a toe down position it's extra frontal area that is very poorly shaped.

I think their heel shape is bad too but I'm not ready to elaborate.

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I don't need to try to reverse engineer your custom last, but knowing your basic shoe size would be helpful. Thanks!

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Size EU44. Normal width.

I'm in for products like this up to about $400.

I've printed heel fins for my shoes previously. Now I don't feel like such a tool :-)

You're definitely not at tool :)

Did you race with your fins? Were they flat fins or more of a bulbous shape?

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You know I love this idea and I would love to see this product make it to market. We tried to incorporate some of the additional aero designs in to my custom shoe project with Rocket7. In the end we just ended up with a lightweight version of the Giro Empire SLX that are custom to my feet. I have really learned to love the simplicity of my elastic design but if you can improve the aero still, while improving ease of entry you have a winner. I tried a pair of Bont Cronos too and while they may be aero, they were not comfy and I can't imagine trying to get into them in a triathlon. For TTs maybe but definitely not designed for tri.

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I'm a size 45 EE. My foot basically matches the Bont "wide" last perfectly fwiw. If you want I can send you a scaled tracing.

Thanks - I don't need a tracing. Just want to get an idea of what size range the wide feet are in to see if it is a manageable inventory issue. Thanks for the data!

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What were the difficulties you encountered in trying to input aero ideas into the shoe?

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If you need a beta tester Im in

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That is very impressive looking. Shoot me a message

KC had made a pair for Zabriski that had similar sorts of aero properties to your design. I was already going back and forth between midfoot and forefoot. To be honest that decision took the priority away from the design process and we said we could always do a second pair after I determined what I really wanted. I went with midfoot.

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Part of the reason I printed up the heel cups was that my size (44) is often on the shorter end of a shoe-cover size range. Rather than sizing down and making it nearly impossible to get the covers on, I used the "correct" size and then filled in some additional space on the back of my shoes to make them just the right level of tight. They added about 2" to the total length of the shoes. I have raced TT's with them, but I don't think that anyone has ever even noticed.

Oh yeah, they had the sole taper into a fin shape, right?

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Correct.

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What do you guys think about this black version compared to the white/red?

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I think the black ones look nicer and won't show scuffs as much.

Pretty slick!
Matte black with gloss layers and pieces, right?

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Thanks, 99problems and now concern about heel vortices is new 😅

The black version looks much better IMO

Solid, I hope this makes it to market. I think you have cornered the slowtwitch crowd with this product, the same group that buys $300 empires and cuts them up. You just need to convince Jan Frodeno to wear them... That way Sanders will buy a pair and you will have two kona contenders marketing for you for the price of one!

Needs green version :P

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OK everyone - another question. I know people love to see glossy carbon fiber with the woven fabric underneath. But what if we could make the shoe even lighter and stiffer (and probably cheaper) by combining all the sole components and the main heel bracket into a single injection-molded carbon fiber peice? It would look matte black, rather than the conventional hand-laid carbon fiber fabric look.

It would look similar to the sole of this shoe (but obviously not this design or shape)




Would this make you more, less or equally likely to be interested in the shoe?

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Glossy or not is not the deal breaker or winner for me. Matte color would be perfectly fine.

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I don't think most ppl would care about the aesthetic of the soul enough to sway them. Personally, I like the mat blk even more though, so there ya go.

Personally I don't care what the sole looks like.

Im totally in for a pair of those in 45 :)

totally okay with this design, as long as it comes in a 49 or 50

OK, so LOTS of work has gone on in the months since I posted this.

1) Philip Majure, the former head of Pearl Izumi footwear for 12 years is heading up our effort to get this manufactured as a consultant.

2) The design idea remains the same, but is significantly refined - improving both performance and looks!

3) My initial CFD work was woefully inadequate. I was brand new to CFD when I did this and my learning curve has been very steep. As I came to realize this and started to improve my models, my computer quickly became inadequate. Models I run now would take a week (literally) for my HP Spectre x360 laptop to get through!! So after spending a hefty chunk of change on an absurd computer than can complete those simulations in a few hours (hardware nerds, see bottom of this post) CFD results are getting much better in terms of believeability and they have driven me towards some important design changes.

4) Our initial last design (the last is the model of the foot that the shoe is built around) is complete. We should have fit prototypes done soon. Getting these made and finding a great manufacturing partner has been made extremely difficult by our escalating trade war with China - even if we don't want to make them in China, all other manufacturers are fleeing China flooding factories across the world with business.

5) After getting fit feedback from my fit guinea pigs, if the last is OK we will modify the prototypes with 3d printed soles, etc, and head to the wind tunnel with a few different ideas.\

6) Now that the CFD work is starting to go smoothly I'm able to start looking at some interesting things like interaction of the shoe with other bike components!

New hardware: Dual socket AMD EPYC 7301 (16 cores each so 32 cores total), 16 DIMMS x 16GB 2666 MHz DDR4 RAM (256GB total)

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I continue to love this idea and it looks like you are making some solid progress. Keep up the great work!!!

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Thanks for the update. Let me know when you guys decide to go to the tunnel. I’ve got the itch to test some things. If you guys make a prototype in a 10.5 you can get a few runs in comparing them to my traditional Bont tri shoes and my Simmons monocoque carbon shoes.

Thanks, Thomas!

Also, another update - due to trademark concerns I've changed the name. I kept the falcon/mountain 'cause I like it :)

The new name is VeloVetta. Vetta is Italian for peak or summit. So yeah, it's a language mashup but it sounds cool :)

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Thanks -

There is a strong possibility that new intellectual property will be created during tunnel testing so everyone in attendance has to be covered under non-disclosure agreements in order to protect patentability. There will also be a number of designs which are not yet patented or disclosed so those also have to be covered.... I wish it were not so! So far everything I have disclosed here is covered under patent applications.

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Looks great!!! Any chance a speedplay specific shoe would be up for consideration?

Very nice. Looking forward to these. Interesting pressure map. You can see why an aero crank would be a good idea. Lots of red on those crank arms.

Interesting computer choice as well. I hadn’t realized AMD was competitive again. While the core count was high, they seemed to have lost out to Intel in raw processing power. Also sort of surprised CFD isnt a GPGPU application, but I really don’t know much about it.

PS. Speedplays would be my choice as well

Ryzen. AMD has slightly lower IPC still but better efficiency and much better pricing than Intel. Bang for buck, it's no contest.

Regarding the GPU, I'm guessing there isn't a lot of parallel processing, which is what GPUs are good for.

Nice shoes. Idd speedplay zero aero.

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There's a lot to be gained through parallel processing (can get to several million parallel calculations per cycle) but it's floating-point operations. The performance gains are not as significant, and usually not enough to offset the enormous price increase of GPUs driven by the machine learning crowd. I do my CFD on a 32-core CPU machine but we're looking into getting one of the new Tesla GPUs - ANSYS claims a 60% speedup compared to an equivalent CPU-only setup, which could be nice if it works out.

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That's actually a drag map, not pressure! When you're looking at forward-facimg surfaces it looks similar to pressure but on rear-racing surfaces, high pressure will look blue.

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Ryzen does not do so well for CFD - they are designed for compute-bound processing and with CFD access to memory bandwidth is usually the bottleneck. That's why I went with dual socket so I could get 16 memory channels. The EPYC chips are among the best you can get for CFD. Some of the Intel Xeon processors are good too, but if you can make them better it's only a tiny amount better and they cost twice as much as comparable Epyc chips.

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OK, so everyone requesting a speedplay-specific sole:

I do not think it is likely I will offer that. I will not be able to offer more than one sole design, and if I can do only one I think it has to be the most versatile.

However, I do not think using the adapter plate with this sole will put you at any disadvantage to a speedplay-specific one, even though there will be like 1.5mm extra stack height. That stack height has very little to do with the aero performance of the shoe and the sole shape has A LOT to do with it. I cannot get into why, but I doubt that I can design a speedplay-specific sole that is faster than the one I have arrived at so far. I don't know this for sure because I have not tried, but I doubt it.

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I just got back from Europe, visiting factories in Spain and Italy. Nothing is signed yet, but it is likely that we will be making the shoes in Italy. The factory makes TOP OF THE LINE shoes. Seriously - they are beautiful. They make shoes under their own brand, but also some others you've heard of at various times.
I also visited a factory that specializes in carbon fiber manufacturing and co-molding (injection molding a second material on top of a part made of a different material) that makes cycling shoe soles and other parts - but they also make many of the large exterior and interior carbon fiber parts for Ferrari, McLaren and BMW M Performance. I was amazed at the quality and beauty of the stuff they produce and we will work with them on the sole and perhaps some other parts as well.

I should have my first fully-functional prototype in 8 weeks, and then we'll head to the wind tunnel. It won't be a production shoe - the upper will be simplified and the hard parts will be 3D printed.


I updated some of the images on the original post but will put them here too, now that my patent applications have been updated and I can share publicly. The graphics on the shoe are just placeholders for now. The hinge depicted here is a prototype hinge. The production hinge will be a lower-profile rivet.

If you want to be kept up to date, go to velovetta.com and sign up for the mailing list!






CFD results of conventionally shaped shoe with smooth front (no closure mechanism)


CFD results of VeloVetta shoe with closure mechanism. See difference in airspeed under the sole.

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This is awesome!

Very cool! Good luck.

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Looks cool.

Random thoughts from random thought guy:
Why not boat-tail the underside of the shoe? If this is going to be footwear that stays bolted to the pedals through T1 and T2 and used for flying mounts, why not infill this area with an aerofoil tail? Surely that would be beneficial?

So that is basically what I have done, but to a less extreme degree than what you have depicted. I did CFD analysis of more extreme versions with little benefit. I may test one of those versions in the tunnel - not decided yet. Also, this way looks cooler :)

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Great work.

I'm looking forward to these shoes!!

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Wow, these look really really nice! Not sure I want to know how much they will cost but good luck with your venture!

Because most people don't do flying mounts and dismounts?

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If someone looks at those shoes and does not do that....

They are lovely shoes BTW really nice to follow that process

As for speedplay I would say that people that buy this shoe would be very likely to be 50% speedplay people
I understand what you say but what I would do is to find somebody that will drill speedplay specific holes aftermarket. I think that would entice more people.

These look great and very cool idea!

Could you break up the wind more with "aero mesh" frontal material or is smooth better? Seems like skinsuits and socks have ridges or dimples which aim to break up the wind before it disappears behind you. Examples: Drag2zero: https://drag2zero.co.uk/d2z-shop/
Rule28: https://www.rule28.com/

Also, could you put in a boa dial in the rear? Maybe that dial is easy to tighten, but if you are mounting your bike and tightening the shoe, it looks like you'll need a your thumb inside the shoe at the heel, then turn that dial. Would an exterior boa be better?

I'm in London, shipping is easier her from Spain/Italy. Happy to test! :)

People care about what the bottom of their shoe looks like??? Umm no, matte is fine.

I think the time saved by doing flying (dis)mounts is going to be way less than potential time savings over 90/180km.

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The updated name and type are an improvement. I like your mountain/falcon symbol. I approve. (This was a criticism from me last time)

So...how much and when?

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But unlike a bike or group set, cycle shoes are not a status symbol, so I would think 90 plus % of the people that buy those shoes have spend a few hours practise on fly mount and dismount.
Or in other words while I have seen a few 15000 $ cervelos walked up the hill in races I have not seen somebody with custom shoes push up a hill.

And I'm not saying it's a bad thing to walk with an expensive bike but I think the people that buy those shoes have most likely ticked most low hanging fruits like fly mount

So available before Boulder Peak? Lol

I'm glad you like the new logo/font! It was fun to work on, even though I have no particular expertise in that arena.

The best I can say on time frame is available fall of 2019. And put some big error bars around that! I'm not prioritizing a release date. I am prioritizing doing what's best for the product.

As for price, I do not know yet. You can probably tell that this shoe will be more expensive to manufacture than a conventional shoe, both on the line, but also it will require significantly more up front investment in tooling and molds. That being said, I will price it within the mainstream.

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Thanks, Dan! It was great meeting you at TBI! Keep up the great work.

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So if I thought I could design a boundary layer trip that would work throughout the pedal stroke, and reliably create a turbulent boundary layer that would delay separation in the right areas, I would do it. But that kind of thing is pretty hard to model accurately and even if I could model it, designing it to work on a shoe that is following the kind of path that it does during a pedal stroke would be quite challenging. So I have not even tried.

Maybe just covering it in a texture such as aero socks would help - but I think I cannot analyze that with CFD reasonably. I could test it in the tunnel. Maybe we could make prototypes with both smooth and textured upper materials and test them both in the tunnel - but we have to mete out our resources carefully...

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Oh and as to the BOA, maybe the way the closure works is not clear. That black dial on the back is used to set the tension ahead of time. Then you flip the lever open to open up the shoe. When you put your foot in the shoe all you have to do is close the lever and the shoe closes to your preferred tension in that one motion.

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Wow...I can’t wait. Signed up and eagerly waiting on these.

Well I'm team socks, so I won't be doing any flying mount/dismount crap. I also like my huevos intact. Yet, I'm very interested in the shoe.


So like a top of the line Sidi? $4-500?

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My guess is higher. $6-800

This black/red version is awesome. Just make sure to make it possible to place the cleats far back on the shoe.
But i really would give this black/red option a go.

I will subscripe on your website to be updated.

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I can't say much about price, but I can say that it will be no where near this.

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This is clever as hell. VERY cool.

Still have some modicum of adjustability on the fly, but the gross in/out part is super quick and easy.

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Any luck on finding a price?

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Read the posts above.

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Because WTC in all of their wisdom has mostly banned this practice...

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That’s encouraging.

I'm in need of some new shoes. I liked the looks of S-works road 6 and Fizik Transiro, but they were really uncomfortable to me. Hopefully for me I find something sooner than Fall, but still I wonder: any plans for a size 38.5 with a wide toe box?

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Yeah, those are both great shoes but not ones I would recommend to people looking for a wide toe box. Our forefoot will be wider than those but not super wide. Kind of similar to Shimano s-phyre in width. The heel feels pretty similar to the s-works road shoe- fairly narrow and locks the heel down. We'll have a 38.5.

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If the shoe was designed so that you had to keep them clipped in and you couldn't walk in them...it would be comical to watch someone with said shoes get a flat. Would you dare try to ride one handed while undoing your shoes before coasting to a stop with a flat front tire? Or do you stop first, then undo your shoes before dismounting your bike and fixing your flat bare foot? I know it's not the end of the world if that were the case...but it would be funny to watch.

I'm thinking of doing a video series while we get the shoe ready for production and was wondering if you guys would be interested. It would basically be a startup story, but that would of course include some cool techy stuff about the product. I think we should be able to throw some humor in there too.... Would you all be interested in that if it went out to our mailing list with little 15 second snippets of it on IG/FB? Probably 1 video every few weeks.

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The video would definitely be interesting

Where are you? I have raced all over the US and haven't had any shoe limitations at any event

Many, though not all, Ironman races forbid athletes to pre-attach shoes to the bike and do flying mounts.

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I guess I keep picking the right events then. Three or four a year for several years and none have been forbidden.

I put up a little teaser video HERE that is a very quick window into the engineering of the shoe, as well as on the instagram and facebook page.

In the next couple of weeks we'll start releasing a series of videos that will go through the whole, story, from the generation of the idea, to launching the product.

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Good stuff. Let me know if you need a field tester ;)

We've gone through a few iterations but our shoe last design is now complete. Here's a quick video showing it. We should have the first wind-tunnel and road-worthy prototype done in about a month to 5 weeks.

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Love the updates and seeing the progress.

Looks great.

But I am still puzzled by one thing, I am not one to ever walk much in cycling shoes, but given various IM transition rules, etc., with the under-heel shape being quite rounded (as far as I can tell), how will riders walk in these when they absolutely have to?

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I'm likely to add a shape under the heel that will stabilize it when walking. I have not decided yet exactly how. I want to do it without an aero impact. It depends partially on the Shore A hardness of the TPU material we will be molding that part out of.

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Well, given that I am pretty much an Olympic distance racer, and since I nearly always leave my shoes in my pedals during races, it won't affect me. I would prefer a shoe as aero as possible, so I care little for walking practicality. But, with there being a lots of IM racers, given their various transition rules, I guess walkability might be an important factor for them.

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I agree that being to be able to walk safely in them will be important!

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What type of sole design are you using? Are you going to be using a bathtubs shaped sole the Bont shoes?

Nice! What is your aim for a launch date? As in, ready for us to purchase?

My ambitious plan is by the fall. But I readily admit it is a stretch.

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The sole is not a bathtub type, though it will come up around the sides of the forefoot a tiny bit - like a few mm.

The part that wraps under the rear part of the sole and up the sides will not be rigid like carbon fiber. It will be a TPU with some flex to it.

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I had the chance to be on the Dig Deep Podcast with Hugo Mendez of Chaskis that came out today. We talk about the aero shoes of course, but also racing, engineering and other cool stuff. It's available on tons of podcast platforms and also a video on YouTube




Here's the main link for the podcast:


https://www.chaskis.us/...ynamic-cycling-shoes

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Here's a quick update - I just got back from the factory in Italy and we have gone through a few different prototype ideas - slight adjustments to the original that I think are great improvements. Here's the latest prototype. When we were lasting it, we had to heat and re-heat the upper many times before getting it right, which caused the PU to delaminate from the mesh in some parts... so just pretend it looks perfect, please :) This won't happen in production!

You can see there is some elastic mesh between the "tongue" and the rest of the shoe. For the most part, I like the elastic, but it can wrinkle a bit when you cinch the shoe onto your foot so I am thinking about leaving that just totally open. What you you think?










The reason for the 3 different plastic connections is to test different ways and locations of attaching the wire. It will be a single attachment in the end, and may not look at all like any of these. All that extra wire and ugly screw attachment are also just for prototype and testing puroposes... please ignore!


The vents in the shoe are just a temporary design. I have a pretty cool idea for the final design :)


You can see the plastic heel-wrap and heel bracket were a little to small to fit onto the upper - there's a gap in the back. This will be fixed in the next iteration.


Here's a video of a test I did to see how easy it is to get the shoe on and off on the bike. I have to say - it is by far the easiest and fastest shoe I have ever tried.





I'm going to actually go for a ride in it tomorrow.


Let me know your thoughts!

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Congrats - looks great!

How does the show hand from the pedal (ie. venter of gravity-wise)? Does the heel scrape the road if left dangling?

I ask because it’s not uncommon for me to jump on my seat land my foot properly on one shoe and miss the other. With my current shoe it can scrape and I cross my fingers that I don’t lose the shoe, which would mean dismounting back tracking and ruining the entire point of my attempt at a flying mount.

All shoes can scrape the ground when dangling from the pedal and the crank is pointing down... I have not figured out how to solve that problem. I have thought about it....

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Ed, any updates on your shoes?

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Hi - Yeah. I've been trying to make relevant updates on our facebook and instagram pages. I made some design changes from the last prototype. The biggest changes were:

1) Adding a gap between the foot and the plastic piece wrapped around the foot that will alleviate pressure and allow the foot to expand and also reduce weight.
2) Improve the channel that the wire goes through to eliminate the possibilities of it "jumping the track"
3) Move the wire exit hole further back to improve the angle at which it holds the foot.

The new prototype is almost complete. Here's some video and photos of the prototype assembly process.


This is part of the lasting process that heats the upper, stretches it over the last and glues it to the lasting board (which is a part of the sole, the part just under the footbed).




The new prototypes. The strap across the top is a temporary peice used in manufacturing to make sure the elastic does not stretch when the upper is being stretched over the last. It will be removed before the shoe is completed.


This is the upper on the last before being stretched and glued around it.


The heel of the upper being strobel stitched to the lasting board.


again - that strap will be removed. just for manufacturing.


Checking the fit of the sole and plastic pieces. These are 3D printed. In the production shoe the sole will be carbon fiber and the wrap under the heel will be molded TPU.


3D printed parts.


The upper before being attached to anything.

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Cool photos and details!

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Very cool pics.

Making shoes looks super easy, I think I’ll have a go at it!

.....I really like the stealth black, combined with a black carbon sole would be very cool.

Maurice

Thanks! There's a very good chance we will have a black on black option. This upper is not the final version. I'm thinking the vent pattern may end up being in the shape of our falcon logo instead of these chevrons.

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these look very cool!

do you have a general price point you're shooting for?

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I'm hoping to price them in line with most other high-end off-the-shelf shoes. I cannot really be more specific than that yet.

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I'm loving them. (Please make them in my size, please make them in my size, please make them in my size)

So the newest prototype is in, and so far it is AWESOME. The fit is great, the closure feels really secure and is easy to use, it looks great, the craftsmanship is top notch (though the 3d printed parts still look... 3d printed). It's likely that we move on to prepping for production from here. Target is for them to be on the market in 6 months, but could be sooner. Here are some pics with some different color options. These are not the final designs, just looking at what these different colors would look like.








We will be testing at A2 on Wednesday. It will be rider-on and pedaling. Here's the lineup:


VeloVetta
S-Works Road
Bontrager Ballista
Shimano TR9

+ some combo of shoes using velotoze covers

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Great job Ed

I’m very interested in a pair of these once they become available.

Cheers

Phil

They look great!

Those are looking sweet! Love the red and silver versions.

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Looks great.. Hope you make a celeste/blue version ;)

Any chance you can add either the Bont Zero+ or Crono to that test list?

Maybe add the modified Giro SLX as well!

Really looking forward these shoes!

I tried but I cannot get them in time.

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It's still possible- colors are not yet decided.

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What size do you need in a Bont Zero + ? I have a 44.5 pair custom with laces and speedplay cleats, and am here in Colorado - Denver. I can get them to you quick if you would like to include them in the test.

Hey! I think that 44.5 is what I need. All the other shoes are 44 but according to the Bont sizing test, 44.5 standard width would be the comparable size. Does that sound right to you?

I need them by Monday. Flying out Tuesday morning. Would be great if I could borrow them!

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No Problem Ed. I am sure we can work this out.

PM me.

Dbeitel

Awesome! Thanks for doing that.

Ed -

I wear size 44 shoes. I’d be happy to send you my custom shoes I made (dial in the arch). Don't know if it would be apples to apples but would give you another data point perhaps? Are you testing solo or with Heath? I could probably send them direct to him or A2 since I’m in FL.

Feelings won’t be hurt if you don’t want them but thought I’d offer.

Hey, thanks - I think we have all the shoes we can handle now, and I think they cover all the bases.

Are your shoes Simmons?

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No they’re mine. Home grown :) I might have emailed you a pic of them a while ago.

Ooohh.. right! Sorry I remember them!

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Geez you forgot to post the neon green picture here too.. come on now.

They're doing this one on their own. I've been lurking on this thread and I'm definitely interested in how this shakes out.

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Testing sockless too i hope

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Love them!!! Will you have a distributor in Europe?

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Yea but so is putting on a aero sock in T1

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They should be available in Europe. You might have to get them shipped from the US though.

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Ed O'Malley
www.VeloVetta.com
Founder of VeloVetta Cycling Shoes
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I did a little Chung testing today and I must say.... I'm never wearing velcro tri shoes again.

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Ed O'Malley
www.VeloVetta.com
Founder of VeloVetta Cycling Shoes
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Speedplay compatible right?

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"see the world as it is not as you want it to be"

It's 3-hole but speedplay works great with it and is what I recommend. Putting a flat spot on the sole for a 4-hole solution I think would actually be less aero.

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Ed O'Malley
www.VeloVetta.com
Founder of VeloVetta Cycling Shoes
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How many watts are we talking between something like the Mavic Cosmic Elite Tri shoe Vs Empire SLX Vs Velovetta?

I'll be releasing the wind tunnel test results we got yesterday at A2 soon. It will go out first to our email list (get on it at velovetta.com!)
photo credit: Kenny Withrow

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Ed O'Malley
www.VeloVetta.com
Founder of VeloVetta Cycling Shoes
Instagram • Facebook

Exciting! I don't see a place to sign up for the email list on the website (mobile chrome). Is it the same as the contact form?

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Strava

A window should appear about 4 seconds after you get to the webpage to offer you to be able to sign up, should work on mobile too...

But if you send in a message from the contact form and accept the privacy conditions you will also be on the list.

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Ed O'Malley
www.VeloVetta.com
Founder of VeloVetta Cycling Shoes
Instagram • Facebook

Will there by any fore/aft adjustment for cleats (please say "yes"!!)?

So the results are incredible! I’m excited about this shoe coming to market!

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80/20 Endurance Ambassador

Yes - it will be a three-hole mount, and there will be slots that the mounts slide in, as well as the adjustment that's built in to the cleat.

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Ed O'Malley
www.VeloVetta.com
Founder of VeloVetta Cycling Shoes
Instagram • Facebook

Yeah, congrats on the great WT results! What's next??

Impressive results. I know some folks have found the shoe only velotoez to test out faster than the full length version. Any reason you chose the latter?

Also, did you try to pedal with a different foot angle at all? I'm curious how angle of attack affects your shoe.

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Is that speedplay base plate the same on all shoes?

It looks thinner on the Velo