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Triathlon Taren
 
Noticed this guy late summer and have been occasionally chiming in on his YouTube channel since.

His audience is more for the beginner/intermediate crowd, but of all triathletes that work with social media he has been very fresh and original. He does a daily YouTube clip on training "Secrets" or tips, products reviews, and talks about his own training (in a very non boring way), and built a pretty damn big community of "trainiacs".

This guy obviously has a background in social media but could be a big asset to pros and AG ambassadors on how to actually provide value and be entertaining at the same time.

Keep it up Taren
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
Reaching for the popcorn.......
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
Officially feel old as I have no idea what you are talking about.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I'm a fan of Taren. I think he helps to intro/popularize the sport and address the challenges he faces daily with training and life.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [logella] [ In reply to ]
 
logella wrote:
Officially feel old as I have no idea what you are talking about.

Haha. Well at least you are using the internet... ^^;

Taren's videos are pretty entertaining. They use a lot of editing, so I don't know how he is able to put one out EVERY day. Definitely worth a look.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [jdais] [ In reply to ]
 
http://triathlontaren.com/blog/

Make Inside Out Sports your next online tri shop! http://www.insideoutsports.com/
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
Interesting guy - very comfortable in front of the camera.

Good content.

Indeed, geared more towards the beginner/intermediate . . but that's OK.

They are well put together and seem to involve a lot of editing. I'm always in wonderment where someone like this finds the time for it all.


Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
watched one, found him annoying, so didn't watch any more. Some people like his channel though, so its all good.

Product placement aside, I've been enjoying the GTN shows. They have a couple of videos now for the trainer, did the intervals one yesterday and it was a pretty good 30 minute session.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
I would like to see a podium winner or coach do a youtube channel, hate to get training advice from an average age grouper. Def is great for the beginner Triathlete fan base

good for him to be able to make a living talking about his hobby

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Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I watch his videos sometimes when I'm on the trainer. I think he does a great job of trying to entice the beginner/ intermediate triathlon crowd which is fantastic.

Have nothing but respect for the following he's built and the work he does trying to help people become more knowledgeable about triathlons.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
 
Taren's full time job is his blog and podcasts. He quit being an financial advisor to pursue it.

Make Inside Out Sports your next online tri shop! http://www.insideoutsports.com/
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
 
Doesn't he still do Social Media consulting or something? I guess that would not be very time consuming anyway if you work for yourself as a consultant.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [toastygloveman] [ In reply to ]
 
I think he still does some consulting on the side. He mentioned that he wants to go completely full time with the Youtube stuff this year. I find his stuff entertaining and he has some good info for athletes at all levels. I have learned a few things myself. I'm all for anything that helps new people get into the sport
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Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I've found his podcast to be very good. His wife, NTK (No Triathlon Kim) is really good on it as well. Good interviews with Sarah True, Josh Amberger amongst others.

Give it a whirl...

Brent

DFRU - Detta Family Racing Unit...the kids like it and we all get out and after it...gotta keep the fam involved!
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dfru] [ In reply to ]
 
Does he post on ST ?

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Re: Triathlon Taren [surfNJmatt] [ In reply to ]
 
surfNJmatt wrote:
I would like to see a podium winner or coach do a youtube channel, hate to get training advice from an average age grouper. Def is great for the beginner Triathlete fan base

good for him to be able to make a living talking about his hobby

I hear you but in fairness, he is a FOP age grouper.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
 
He does. I can't remember his username.

Make Inside Out Sports your next online tri shop! http://www.insideoutsports.com/
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dfru] [ In reply to ]
 
dfru wrote:

Give it a whirl...

Round Salthill prom?

;-)
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [somers515] [ In reply to ]
 
Yeah, I’ve watched a few. He throws in humor and speaks well so it’s a nice mix up of content and humor. Or as a friend of mine likes to describe him “he speaks normal so I can understand himâ€. Hahaha. And I’d also agree he is a FOP AGer.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I was watching his videos nightly, much to my wife's dismay, but it's gotten a little daunting as of late so I've had to take a break. I guess there's not as much to talk about during the offseason so it's to be understood the content has gotten a little bland (like deconstructing at 920xt...). The vlogs of his race trips were cool too. He seems to be getting positive feedback here but think he's a little touchy regarding the internet haters. If he can't ignore those then he's probably not gonna make it much longer! HA!
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dfru] [ In reply to ]
 
I actually sat near him at the Austin 70.3 athlete briefing this year. He was talking with Sarah True after they had interviewed her on the stage. Was pretty funny when someone walked up and asked to take a picture. He moved aside thinking the guy wanted to take a picture with True. When the guy motioned towards him, he was like, "why would you want a picture with me over her", haha. I don't watch him all the time as a lot of the stuff he discusses I read on this site long ago, but I did pay attention when he did daily updates about Austin since I was also doing the race. Think he qualified for 70.3 WC in that race through a roll down, so it's not like he's just a complete MOP guy.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I enjoy his podcast over his youtube videos. He's had on some good guests. The Mark Allen one was interesting.
I think it's great he's trying to make a living out of it.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I think he's doing a great job. Might not be for everyone but I appreciate the effort he puts in. Good for him.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
 
With decent editing software, I would imagine it doesn't take more than 2 hours or so to put together his daily content. The community building aspect is the hard part.

He did identify a good niche - BT is a dead zone (hooray, way too active moderation), and people tend to "graduate" to Slowtwitch eventually.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
 
I gave him another shot today, and it wasn't too bad.

Watched a couple of his swim-centric videos, and although I cringed a little at what he was saying, I recognize that although "I" wouldn't recommend some of the things he talks about that doesn't necessarily make him wrong for his target audience.

Swimming Workout of the Day:

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
Slightly off topic, but since we're talking triathletes who make YouTube videos: what's up with Calum Milward (Cupcakes with Cal)? I love his videos and he's mostly disappeared. I get that he might want to be more serious or focus on training, but making a video can't be that time consuming.

'It never gets easier, you just get crazier.'
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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
Some of the product placement and blatant commercials are annoying, but he's passionate about growing the sport.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [randomtriguy] [ In reply to ]
 
I watched some of his early stuff but it was very beginner orientated and a little behind the dialogue level you get to read here. I was questioning some of the factual accuracy on his earlier videos. I dont watch any more, I find it a little annoying and wordy, it takes too long to get to the point.

I do however really like GTN, to me it is more entertaining.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [endosch2] [ In reply to ]
 
endosch2 wrote:
I watched some of his early stuff but it was very beginner orientated and a little behind the dialogue level you get to read here. I was questioning some of the factual accuracy on his earlier videos. I dont watch any more, I find it a little annoying and wordy, it takes too long to get to the point.

I do however really like GTN, to me it is more entertaining.
Taren takes way too long to get to the meaty bits sometimes. But generally good info for beginners.

At least he's comfortable on camera, unlike Mark and Heather on GTN... *cringe*
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [MattyK] [ In reply to ]
 
They've (mark and heather) have gotten a LOT better.

Swimming Workout of the Day:

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2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
Still nowhere near the chemistry or personality of GCN though. I can understand it takes time, but I've basically given up on watching GTN as a result. I notice they've got a new guy in though who is a much more natural presenter.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [MattyK] [ In reply to ]
 
I really like Tarens work. He is very unpolished but is getting better and heck I admire him for giving it a crack. Plus he Is drawing more newbies to the sport which can only be a good thing.

Have to agree though that he needs to learn how to avoid feeding the trolls-can’t believe he did a whole vid on responding about some guy he banned from posting on his channel.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
Podcasts are very good,he has had some big names in cast
His ultraswimming achievements are also worth a mention
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [MattyK] [ In reply to ]
 
MattyK wrote:
Still nowhere near the chemistry or personality of GCN though. I can understand it takes time, but I've basically given up on watching GTN as a result. I notice they've got a new guy in though who is a much more natural presenter.

Mark Buckingham is the other guy... he's legit too, he smashed up the field in the Elite Race at Du Worlds in Penticton... he ended up with the bronze, but was by far the aggressor on the bike (he also has some solid 70.3 results too)... He trains with the Leeds group that includes guys like the Brownlees... He's a far more natural presenter for sure and is a strong add for them especially when it comes to some of the technique stuff...

In terms of TriTaren... I haven't watched too much of his stuff, but did watch his videos around Kona last year, and they were pretty decent. He's certainly geared more towards the beginner crowd, but is also less jargony and more approachable...
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Trauma] [ In reply to ]
 
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Mark Buckingham is the other guy..

Yeah, he came in and is just flat out better than the other two. Seems to make the other two better when he is in a clip with them as well.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Trauma] [ In reply to ]
 
Trauma wrote:
MattyK wrote:
Still nowhere near the chemistry or personality of GCN though. I can understand it takes time, but I've basically given up on watching GTN as a result. I notice they've got a new guy in though who is a much more natural presenter.


Mark Buckingham is the other guy... he's legit too, he smashed up the field in the Elite Race at Du Worlds in Penticton... he ended up with the bronze, but was by far the aggressor on the bike (he also has some solid 70.3 results too)... He trains with the Leeds group that includes guys like the Brownlees... He's a far more natural presenter for sure and is a strong add for them especially when it comes to some of the technique stuff...

In terms of TriTaren... I haven't watched too much of his stuff, but did watch his videos around Kona last year, and they were pretty decent. He's certainly geared more towards the beginner crowd, but is also less jargony and more approachable...

Yeah, adding him has made a big difference, but I think the other 2 (Mark T and Heather) have improved a lot since the first shows. A couple of the bits they do need work, like the captioning contest (but then I guess you can only work with what people send in...)

Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
A couple of the bits they do need work, like the captioning contest (but then I guess you can only work with what people send in...)


They might get more to work with if the prize wasn't a swimming cap.
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Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
Great topic CU427.

Big fan of Taren. Both his vlogs and podcast are definitely worth checking out.

I find the vlogs insightful, entertaining and overall fun. Most of all I like his approach as I believe he is genuine in sharing his journey and his willingness to share the learnings along the way.

Keep up the great work Taren!
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
Taren's podcast is great. The videos are a bit more beginner focused, but I watch the videos he makes that cover a topic that I need to know more about. I watched the one on the STAC trainer recently, which is a very interesting piece of engineering.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I've been watching him now for almost a full year and i have a lot of respect for what he is doing: he's basically given up a career in the daily grind to put all his effort into something that he is passionate about, and help people along the way that are trying to get into the sport.

Now, 2 things to consider:

1) Bills are not going to pay themselves - so the ultimate point of all of this is to generate income from it, and the biggest market for that model is not going to be the elite 3% in the sport. So he has to cater to all those new athletes trying to start in the sport. This alone is a direct contribution towards the sport and its growth (business or not)

2) Giving up a good paying job to dedicate your life to something you are passionate about, takes a S*HT ton of courage, specially when that thing you are passionate about is not necessarily the biggest income earner at the professional level (anyone know what a top Triathlete earns in terms of income?)


So yes, maybe his content might not be for everyone, and he may have his qwirks, but he I dont think he is tryign to appeal to the sub 9hr IM ST'ers in here ;) so I say good for him and keep at it!!!

PS: I think he has a video editor girl that helps her with all the content management.

3toronto Triathlon
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
 
I respect him.

He and I started into triathlon at about the same time. I think a lot of people at the advanced end of the sport are looking more to advanced coaches, and that's super valid.

That said, I remember that when I started (before he was even making videos) it was really, really tough to find good triathlon content on YouTube. When you're brand new and literally can't swim three strokes, hearing a Kona contender or former Olympian is useful, but it's also sort of like... "I want someone a little closer to where I'm at." I think he does a good job in that void.

Recently, I started making my own videos after getting off my butt. I'm certainly no super-FOP, decade in athlete, but I've been biking a long time, I feel like I'm a pretty 'normal' person, and my goal is to just help convince those other 'normal' people that yeah, you can get into the sport without spending 25 hours/week at it. I don't know what Taren's goals are, but I have no desire to quit my day job (which I love.) I just like getting on forums and helping out from the perspective of being a couple years down the road from a beginner and sharing my experiences.

It's tough making videos, it can be awkward and shitty to read the comments (I've had people just comment 'Go fuck yourself' randomly,) and it adds time to an already full schedule. Even if I don't agree with everything he says, I appreciate the time he puts out there.

As I see it, ultimately, the more people making content for beginners, the more beginners will feel comfortable getting into the sport. That's good for them and good for the future of our events.

JustinDoesTriathlon

Owner, FuelRodz Endurance.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [justinhorne] [ In reply to ]
 
I watched some of your videos. Pretty good! I liked the Suunto one as I have been on the fence about buying it. Still undecided but I feel better informed now.
As for Taren, he is doing a good job and has gotten progressively better. I look forward to see how long he can sustain this
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [surfNJmatt] [ In reply to ]
 
surfNJmatt wrote:
I would like to see a podium winner or coach do a youtube channel, hate to get training advice from an average age grouper. Def is great for the beginner Triathlete fan base

The British GCN channel is great, though. Though one of them is former Cervelo Test Team, none of them were huge celebrity athletes or coaches. They're pretty sharp, though.

Though they get some good interviews. The recent "how to climb nasty" bit with Emma Pooley was great. It's the first "how to climb like a pro" bit I've ever seen that was any good.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I met Taren!! Saw him on the attendees list, then met him friday morning of the Triathlon Business Int'l conference as I was setting up the water and goodies for the runners and riders.
https://www.youtube.com/...YJy_uo9DTAXkXMt81dmN

Karen ST Concierge
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Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
Can't say I'm a fan. I've posted a lot of serious questions that he just doesn't answer because he thinks people are trolls. He's pretty bad at SM interactions overall. I know a CEO of multiple companies that responds to every email, every DM, and every tweet.

I also dislike his position on strength training. He's like full on don't do it when you're in the high end of your Ironman training. There's a point to periodization, just as you taper off your aerobic work you taper off on your strength work before a race. In addition Triathlon I also play Rugby. Depending on what you're doing, out of season work is four days of lifting.

I've built a 3 Day split that can become a two day split for when I'm in the high season with Rugby or Triathlon based on my recovery. He seems to only lift in the winter in the off-season, maybe that's weird, but you see plenty of pros lifting hard during their season...it may only be twice a week due to sport specific volume. If he did maintenance strength training during the season he'd probably get less injured...end rant.

And the whole I'm gonna start a separate podcast for Q&A rather than just do Q&A was whack.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
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Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I've been watching his videos on and off for the past year and a half or so. He's steadily getting better at it. He loves the sport, and puts his heart and soul into it. What is really accommodating to the masses is that he is a regular Joe-Schmo. He has never done a full 140.6, and I don't believe plans on doing a full anytime soon. He's done two 70.3's, and I believe qualified for the 70.3 WC. He exerted himself to the point of an hour visit to the medical tent doing so. He has a small staff, and his wife (NTK) is a huge supporter and sports reporter. He doesn't take himself too seriously and speaks from his heart a lot.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Formulagod] [ In reply to ]
 
I just wish he would edit his vids himself. Look at Casey Neistat for example-he is a one man band who pumped out daily blogs for over a year of a very high quality all whilst also having a hell of a lot going on building a side business which he ended up selling for millions.

Love Tarens work, love his content and think he is quite funny but getting the teenage girl to do his edits just strikes me as lazy unfortunately. He shouldn’t complain about running on a shoe string and at the same time be paying someone to do something he could do himself
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Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
dunno wrote:
I just wish he would edit his vids himself. Look at Casey Neistat for example-he is a one man band who pumped out daily blogs for over a year of a very high quality all whilst also having a hell of a lot going on building a side business which he ended up selling for millions.

Love Tarens work, love his content and think he is quite funny but getting the teenage girl to do his edits just strikes me as lazy unfortunately. He shouldn’t complain about running on a shoe string and at the same time be paying someone to do something he could do himself

For the record on this. Mel is his sole employee. She does edit his videos...but she's also doing social media content creation for his actual job. Which is boutique social media management for small businesses...instead of crapping on that...saying he just wants to do triathlon for time he should be pumping that up. Also shutting it down and not willing to accept new clients is just limiting his earning potential. For being a former financial planner he's not planning for himself that well. Bless NTK...she seems a saint.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
dunno wrote:
I just wish he would edit his vids himself. Look at Casey Neistat for example-he is a one man band who pumped out daily blogs for over a year of a very high quality all whilst also having a hell of a lot going on building a side business which he ended up selling for millions.

Love Tarens work, love his content and think he is quite funny but getting the teenage girl to do his edits just strikes me as lazy unfortunately. He shouldn’t complain about running on a shoe string and at the same time be paying someone to do something he could do himself

For the record on this. Mel is his sole employee. She does edit his videos...but she's also doing social media content creation for his actual job. Which is boutique social media management for small businesses...instead of crapping on that...saying he just wants to do triathlon for time he should be pumping that up. Also shutting it down and not willing to accept new clients is just limiting his earning potential. For being a former financial planner he's not planning for himself that well. Bless NTK...she seems a saint.

I thought he closed POST to concentrate solely on Triathlon Taren?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [STConcierge] [ In reply to ]
 
STConcierge wrote:
I met Taren!! Saw him on the attendees list, then met him friday morning of the Triathlon Business Int'l conference as I was setting up the water and goodies for the runners and riders.
https://www.youtube.com/...YJy_uo9DTAXkXMt81dmN

x2

I hadn’t heard of him before but spent some time talking with him and he seems like a good dude. I’ve since been watching some of his content and while I’m probably not going to ever consider myself a trainiac I think he does a good job.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
 
x3

Solid dude. Two thumbs up.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
dunno wrote:

I thought he closed POST to concentrate solely on Triathlon Taren?

He has like 30k subscribers and is an independent media member...the only person like that that makes money is Bob.

PO5T is still cranking. What he did do was cap his client number and gave himself more flexibility...but I'd rather hear about what it takes to be a working stiff and qualify for a WC event as an age grouper than be full of drama. Yes, I think he's full of drama and he doesn't engage well with his subscribers. He'd grow faster if he did comment back because youtube pushes your videos in the search function when you interact with commenters.

He probably puts me in the troll category when all of my questions are serious.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
dunno wrote:

I thought he closed POST to concentrate solely on Triathlon Taren?

He has like 30k subscribers and is an independent media member...the only person like that that makes money is Bob.

PO5T is still cranking. What he did do was cap his client number and gave himself more flexibility...but I'd rather hear about what it takes to be a working stiff and qualify for a WC event as an age grouper than be full of drama. Yes, I think he's full of drama and he doesn't engage well with his subscribers. He'd grow faster if he did comment back because youtube pushes your videos in the search function when you interact with commenters.

He probably puts me in the troll category when all of my questions are serious.

The thing is it’s all free content. It’s just a bloke giving it a crack, doing his best. As a result we get to see him gradually hone his skills in public, warts and all.

Personally for someone with no experience, training or quals he is doing great. I hope he reads this thread and can learn some pointers. For example he still has lots of poor editing in his Vida which comes across really amateurish and drives me insane. For example will have a clip of someone talking at a conference and cuts it off mid sentence-if what they were saying wasn’t important then use a music track instead of audio. In the latest vid he has like a 5 second grab of Mel walking around with a camera at the training camp-again pointless and ruins the flow.

He should do a short course on editing and polish his presentation and then he will fly ahead in leaps and bounds.

As for answering ur serious questions I think he has a q&a section so maybe post them there?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
He's still a mix of how he/Mel edits his videos. Vlogs are meant to be more that way and aren't as formally produced
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
dunno wrote:


I thought he closed POST to concentrate solely on Triathlon Taren?


He has like 30k subscribers and is an independent media member...the only person like that that makes money is Bob.

PO5T is still cranking. What he did do was cap his client number and gave himself more flexibility...but I'd rather hear about what it takes to be a working stiff and qualify for a WC event as an age grouper than be full of drama. Yes, I think he's full of drama and he doesn't engage well with his subscribers. He'd grow faster if he did comment back because youtube pushes your videos in the search function when you interact with commenters.

He probably puts me in the troll category when all of my questions are serious.

Pretty sure I've seen you on the comment boards (as long as the name is the same on Youtube)... Think some of the phrasing you use makes it hard to tell if you're trolling or not. Do think you've had a good amount of valid pts but yeah I can see where he isn't sure
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Bosox99104] [ In reply to ]
 
Bosox99104 wrote:
He's still a mix of how he/Mel edits his videos. Vlogs are meant to be more that way and aren't as formally produced

Can’t agree-there are many many many daily vlogers who’s production value is top notch and they do it all on their own. Even Tarens new intro is half arsed imho-the writing is all blurry and it’s hard to even read what it says.

His intentions are great, his content is great but it just lacks the polish, especially from someone who wants this to be his full time gig.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
Having just gotten into triathlon a little over a year ago and with the fact I move a lot with my job, I've found Taren to be a really good source of information for new/intermediate triathletes. I actually skyped with him about the channel when he was deciding to go daily and he was an awesome guy, gave me some additional information that I had been looking for, was super appreciative of my time and if you reach out to him via e-mail/social media he's pretty good about responding, he's got his preferred channels as we all do (insta/Youtube seem to be his place).

Think what he caters to is what triathlon needs in a way. There's tons of avenues for the enthusiast, but I think Taren does a good job of promoting new athletes and also encouraging people to just try it. Not a "you have to do IM" right away attitude is a good way to try and help grow the sport. I do hope that he continues to grow his content and branch out into some more advanced items but from getting to know him, I'd be willing to bet he's got plans of action to continue to bring in more people(evidenced from his recent addition of two pro day interviews). Also love his podcast because it's had some great pros but also some interesting convos with talented age-groupers and trainers

I would agree that the new podcast is a bit odd, I think it'd be best suited as a once a week Q&A spot on his YouTube as I don't think of podcasting forums as where I'd look for info, but so far he's made a lot of decisions and has consistently grown, so more power to him to try something new.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Bosox99104] [ In reply to ]
 
Bosox99104 wrote:

Pretty sure I've seen you on the comment boards (as long as the name is the same on Youtube)... Think some of the phrasing you use makes it hard to tell if you're trolling or not. Do think you've had a good amount of valid pts but yeah I can see where he isn't sure

Ah, interesting. Only thought I got blocked because my girlfriend also watches his channel.

I just have questions, answering them doesn't take much. But I supposed coming to this forum will get me lot of those answers I'm in search of.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
Bosox99104 wrote:


Pretty sure I've seen you on the comment boards (as long as the name is the same on Youtube)... Think some of the phrasing you use makes it hard to tell if you're trolling or not. Do think you've had a good amount of valid pts but yeah I can see where he isn't sure


Ah, interesting. Only thought I got blocked because my girlfriend also watches his channel.

I just have questions, answering them doesn't take much. But I supposed coming to this forum will get me lot of those answers I'm in search of.

Hope it's clear I've never been around marking troll comments, it's not my channel so I wouldn't do that unless it was egregiously offensive. Not sure that you care to, but if you e-mailed him, Taren's a pretty good dude and might clear things up. Like I said I've talked to him on skype and on social medias, prolly at like 80% responses, which doesn't bother me
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
dunno wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:

The thing is it’s all free content. It’s just a bloke giving it a crack, doing his best. As a result we get to see him gradually hone his skills in public, warts and all.

Personally for someone with no experience, training or quals he is doing great.

I firmly agree.

I think a lot of people at the upper end of many hobbies don't remember what it's like to be new at something, or to want advice from someone who maybe isn't a multi-time Kona pointy-ender, past Olympian, or whatever.

It might also be generational. I know when I started getting into the sport, and this was before he really started his channel, I was freaking *scouring* YouTube trying to find content. I found a couple, and they helped a bunch. There's times I want a professional, and there's times I want someone who can say "Yo, I felt what you're feeling like 2 years ago, here's what I did and here's what it was like."

It's the same reason I started my own videos. I bet most everyone in this thread is faster than I am, and that's okay. There's a time and a place to use absolute ranking to determine who should be a teacher. That said, the world doesn't always work like that. You might not want the double doctorate teaching 9th grade math; the students might react better to the 11th grader who got a 97 in the class a couple years ago. I'm a huge believer in deferring to professionals, but I also believe in the value of someone who can just say "I was you two years ago. Here's what I did and here's what should work for you." It might not be the absolute best possible, world class level coaching, but it gets the job done.

I'm in support of anything that gets more people into the sport.

JustinDoesTriathlon

Owner, FuelRodz Endurance.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
FWIW - just did a podcast with Taren and his wife Kim. We recorded it about a month ago and it was just posted up this week. It was a pleasure to be a guest on their show.

We talk about my past, and the past, present and future of triathlon, and my Race/Event Announcing work.

Link is here - http://triathlontaren.com/stevefleck/

Comments welcome.


Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
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Re: Triathlon Taren [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
 
Tarens really been hitting his stride lately, content has been feeling a lot more polished. I wish he woudl spend more time on the triathlon news segment, I really enjoy that.

That being said the other day he posted a video about how he might have to stop doing it and get a real job to make some money. He needs to step back and face the reality he mentioned in the video-the triathlon community is such a small segment that he is never going to make much money just concentrating on tri related stuff. If he wants to make money he needs to bring in apspects of a MUCH larger audience-cycling and equipment reviews. I really hope he pushed on though.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
I really like Taren and his channel. As a tri noob it's been a huge help. I don't see how he's going to make it long term as a YouTuber with the views he's getting without some serious side-support, though. With YouTube ads you get about a dollar per thousand views, more or less, and I don't think he usually gets 50k views per week.

@brad_glasgow
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
Tarens really been hitting his stride lately, content has been feeling a lot more polished. I wish he woudl spend more time on the triathlon news segment, I really enjoy that.

That being said the other day he posted a video about how he might have to stop doing it and get a real job to make some money. He needs to step back and face the reality he mentioned in the video-the triathlon community is such a small segment that he is never going to make much money just concentrating on tri related stuff. If he wants to make money he needs to bring in apspects of a MUCH larger audience-cycling and equipment reviews. I really hope he pushed on though




I've been through a few of these Podcast interviews, where I'm being interviewed, and I've interviewed many people myself when doing Race/Event Announcing and Live Stream Commentary work - and Taren is good. He knows his stuff. Is comfortable on the mic and in front of the camera, and has great rapport with his guests. I thoroughly enjoyed my time talking with him and his wife Kim.

As for the business side of it - I know how hard it is to make some headway in the whole podcast, vloging, you-tubing world. It takes MASSIVE numbers to really start to make some OK money from it all, just on viewers. Now if you are working some other angle, with affiliate sales/marketing etc . . that's a possibility as well. Ray Maker has been VERY successful with that model - but it took Ray years to get there, and really be the GO-TO guru in a space.

I recall talking to a well known pod-cast producer about a year ago, and he was straight up with me - you don't start up a podcast to make money. It's typically and extension of your personal brand marketing, and you leave it at that. It's only the real super-stars of the world, say a Tony Robbins type of person who is going to make money from podcast or similar - main, obvious reason, he's pulling in millions of listeners/viewers right from the get go!


Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
 
And now we have a kickstarter...https://www.kickstarter.com/...ct&term=trainiac

I don't understand this stuff...If you want investment, where's the equity?

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
And now we have a kickstarter...https://www.kickstarter.com/...ct&term=trainiac

I don't understand this stuff...If you want investment, where's the equity?

Normally the idea of kick starter is the 'investors' get the product cheaper in return for their risk. With this though I think its more of just a pre payment plan as the rates hardly look discounted...

Taren is starting to annoy me and I struggle to watch him any more. The content largely consists of him either pimping Tower 26, pimping his training plans, pimping a training camp with two weeks notice and then having a sook when no one signed up, having a sook that his gear supplier conned him out of $5 commission, having a sook that Wahoo wont give him discounts and having a sook about not making money and trying to guilt his audience into supporting him.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
dunno wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:
And now we have a kickstarter...https://www.kickstarter.com/...ct&term=trainiac

I don't understand this stuff...If you want investment, where's the equity?


Normally the idea of kick starter is the 'investors' get the product cheaper in return for their risk. With this though I think its more of just a pre payment plan as the rates hardly look discounted...

Taren is starting to annoy me and I struggle to watch him any more. The content largely consists of him either pimping Tower 26, pimping his training plans, pimping a training camp with two weeks notice and then having a sook when no one signed up, having a sook that his gear supplier conned him out of $5 commission, having a sook that Wahoo wont give him discounts and having a sook about not making money and trying to guilt his audience into supporting him.

^^^^THIS
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
I don't understand this stuff...If you want investment, where's the equity?

The really big challenge here is that triathlon in the grand scheme of things is a VERY small market. With my Race/Event Announcing work, while I got my start in triathlon, I quickly realized, I can't do this JUST in triathlon, to make a real go of it - so I branched out to running, and cycling work as well. Albeit - sports that I have a great deal of familiarity with. That's led to more sophisticated work doing Live Stream Commentary work for outfits like RunnerSpace for high performance Track & Field - that's about 1/2 of what I do now.

Point here is that you have to constantly keep moving, and hustle like crazy to find the opportunities. The good news is that I continue to work in the space/business that I love - endurance sports!


Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
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Re: Triathlon Taren [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
 
Got some how upset w/ the guy! He was my warm up video so I would be put my triathlon mindset on before going to Netflix on my indoor rides. Liked him, good w/ the camera and sometimes funny. Not sure if he is anyway qualified to subscribe training plans....but I wouldn't use it away!

Some time ago comment on something at Instagram and he mentioned I should share my story at the Newsday Tuesday when people share their stories.

One day I felt like doing it and send an email w/ my background as a swimmer and my back and forth triathlon story and a very personal thing that somehow I felt like sharing.

Guess what, not answer , nothing ! I sent free content, something incredibly personal and not even a thanks!

So nowadays I just avoid watching it. I could easily forget about Scoody, tower 26 and the odd buoy thing.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
His "adjust your bike fit" series that dropped hit my feed because I watch too much GTN apparently...at no point does he say: Go get a bike fit...in the last one he admits he's not a fitter.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
So you sent something in and expected him to owe you something? I get that you spent time sharing something personal, but there's no guarantee with this kind of thing. I can only guess how many people send stories in.

His video about Coke being the perfect blend of ingredients for race nutrition eventually turned me off. It became way too obvious of an endorsement. As if Coke is irreplaceable...
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [mdsfx] [ In reply to ]
 
I really like him

Entertaining and some good advice

Don’t agree with 100% but enjoy the videos

Has quite a few big name guests.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [mdsfx] [ In reply to ]
 
Did you ever read Macca's I'm Here to Win? He pretty much dismissed all the nutrition scientists and said Coke was the magic bullet.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [RBR] [ In reply to ]
 
RBR wrote:
I really like him

Entertaining and some good advice

Don’t agree with 100% but enjoy the videos

Has quite a few big name guests.

He has good advice until he starts talking nutrition-omg he hurts my head when he does that.

In one vid he said whey protein broke down muscle, and then the latest one today is all hocus pocus about how spirulina has increased his oxygen levels, how his mineral water in the morning is critical for flexibility....just destroys his credibility

And then in the same vid he brags about how he has enough free time to train twice a day with the whole afternoon off but just a couple of days ago said he would attempt a full distance until he had the time to train...whaaaat?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
dunno wrote:
RBR wrote:
I really like him

Entertaining and some good advice

Don’t agree with 100% but enjoy the videos

Has quite a few big name guests.

He has good advice until he starts talking nutrition-omg he hurts my head when he does that.

In one vid he said whey protein broke down muscle, and then the latest one today is all hocus pocus about how spirulina has increased his oxygen levels, how his mineral water in the morning is critical for flexibility....just destroys his credibility

And then in the same vid he brags about how he has enough free time to train twice a day with the whole afternoon off but just a couple of days ago said he would attempt a full distance until he had the time to train...whaaaat?

You sound confident in your knowledge of nutrition

If you are open to learning new things you may want to do some research on pubmed
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [RBR] [ In reply to ]
 
I like how he is open and honest

His latest video on bike fit he starts out stating he is not a bike fitter

At 1:13 he says if you have bigger needs than just a small change you should go see a bike fitter


 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
Dude must have an iron gut because he eats 5 different things while on the bike...I can only do gels...but he's also a mostly vegan. So that's probably where his attack against the cheese byproduct came from.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [RBR] [ In reply to ]
 
RBR wrote:


You sound confident in your knowledge of nutrition

If you are open to learning new things you may want to do some research on pubmed


Research on what aspect-that whey protein is apparently catabolic? Or the benefits of MCT oil? I've been around long enough to know that you can find a study to prove anything you want...

As an example-did you know broccoli is toxic?

https://www.thinkingnutrition.com.au/broccoli-bad-for-you/


Also, seriously coconut oil is pure poison...

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2018/aug/22/coconut-oil-is-pure-poison-says-harvard-professor


You just need to approach nutrition with common sense, balance and moderation

But in regards to Taren yeah don't get me wrong I like the guy and he is constantly improving. Cant wait to see his stuff from Kona!
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Re: Triathlon Taren [RBR] [ In reply to ]
 
The first thing he should have said was: If you need an actual fitting, get a bike fit! That's what everyone here seems to say...I did it, and guess what...I made improvements to my position after my first fitting wasn't done on a retul bike and I walked away without metrics (although that guy had fixed a bunch of issues I had had).

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [surfNJmatt] [ In reply to ]
 
surfNJmatt wrote:
I would like to see a podium winner or coach do a youtube channel, hate to get training advice from an average age grouper. Def is great for the beginner Triathlete fan base

good for him to be able to make a living talking about his hobby

Am I the only one that thinks doing 4h35m 70.3s isn't average??? ***GULP***
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
I've downloaded the nutrition planner from his site a couple of months ago. Tought it could be a useful check for my nutrition planning for the recent half triathlon at Challenge Almere-Amsterdam. But since I couldn't open/download the file I've send Taren multiple mails to ask if he could have a look at it. Unfortunately all unanswered.

Besides that I keep watching some of his videos because there's something that I appreciate about him, but there's also lot of videos in which he tells things that I don't believe are true, of based on any evidence. And yes, he is getting sponsored by some brands and showing that a little too much for me.

Blog | Instagram | Strava
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [mlagerwerf] [ In reply to ]
 
mlagerwerf wrote:
I've downloaded the nutrition planner from his site a couple of months ago. Tought it could be a useful check for my nutrition planning for the recent half triathlon at Challenge Almere-Amsterdam. But since I couldn't open/download the file I've send Taren multiple mails to ask if he could have a look at it. Unfortunately all unanswered.

Besides that I keep watching some of his videos because there's something that I appreciate about him, but there's also lot of videos in which he tells things that I don't believe are true, of based on any evidence. And yes, he is getting sponsored by some brands and showing that a little too much for me.

I had a shot of whisky every time he mentioned Tower 26....my liver transplant is booked for next week...
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
So many haters out there.
Give the guy a break, his story in itself is inspiring, in terms of his weight loss and transformation and development as an athlete.
I don't consider him an average age grouper, I would be bloody happy with a 70.3 in 4:3X.
You don't have to like everything he puts out there and it is youtube you know, you can just elect not to watch.
For me, he fills a great niche in the triathlon community that not many others are doing at the moment. GTN does not seem to have the traction that GCN has achieved, and most major channels are going to have to rely on some form of brand endorsement to make a living.
I am surprised there are some comments that he has been difficult to contact, when I have commented on a youtube video and asked a question he is normally super quick in replying.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [pbnz] [ In reply to ]
 
pbnz wrote:
So many haters out there.
Give the guy a break, his story in itself is inspiring, in terms of his weight loss and transformation and development as an athlete.
I don't consider him an average age grouper, I would be bloody happy with a 70.3 in 4:3X.
You don't have to like everything he puts out there and it is youtube you know, you can just elect not to watch.
For me, he fills a great niche in the triathlon community that not many others are doing at the moment. GTN does not seem to have the traction that GCN has achieved, and most major channels are going to have to rely on some form of brand endorsement to make a living.
I am surprised there are some comments that he has been difficult to contact, when I have commented on a youtube video and asked a question he is normally super quick in replying.

I've had some quick replies on other questions, so that's why I'm finding it weird not getting a reply on questions regarding the free tools he offers.

And yes, his story is inspiring and great results that I can only dream of (for now)

I'm kinda in the middle of loving/hating Taren.

Blog | Instagram | Strava
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [pbnz] [ In reply to ]
 
Who’s ‘hating’? My god does every opinion these days need to be rainbows and lollipops?

He puts content on YouTube for public consumption. Just like people comment on what parts of a TV show or movie they like people will also talk the same way about his YouTube content.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
No need to put in the hard work any more to be fast, you just need to follow / purchase as Taren does....

"How to guarantee you bike fast in a triathlon: get the most recognizable bike in tri..... the @ventumracingslap a super wild @bicyclemakeover decal on the bike and the huge @altocycling disc wheel canvas, wear the loudest tri shoes possible from @rideshimano get a matching kit from @scodyaus then get a badass position care of @matsteinmetzand some @51speedshop parts."

via Instagram
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [SwizBeats] [ In reply to ]
 
I post triathlon related videos to YouTube as well. I'm not a super huge fan of his channel but I'm impressed that he's putting out content daily. I think it's really good for our sport. My gut feeling is that our sport is dwindling in participation numbers and if we want more prize money, races and race coverage we should probably be fully supporting people like Taren who are promoting our sport to new athletes. And I think he's getting better. So Taren, if you're reading this, thanks for all that you do and best of luck to your channel in the future.

YouTube
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [pbnz] [ In reply to ]
 
pbnz wrote:
GTN does not seem to have the traction that GCN has achieved

For what it's worth, they've only existed just over a year and have something like 135k subs. That's ~4x what Taren has, more than Ethan Newberry, and ~40k more than the official Ironman triathlon. They're doing pretty well.

JustinDoesTriathlon

Owner, FuelRodz Endurance.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [pbnz] [ In reply to ]
 
GTN is just over a year old. I've been a subscriber before they had 1k subscribers...when it comes to channel growth they're pretty effing steady. So when it comes to traction, I'd say that's pretty good traction. To the point where I'd say Taren's Triathlon news is a direct copy of the GTN Show.

To give an idea I suppose, you can compare Social Blade profiles:

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/globaltrinetwork

https://socialblade.com/...KDrz2GvLxD29W9tow66g



Both have a B-, but one's growth rate is much crazier than the others.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
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Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
How does social blade calc the estimated earnings? I’ve never seen their analytics before... pretty cool.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
I take back what I said about GTN and traction, I had not kept an eye on their analytics. I know they had an initial surge but their growth looked remarkably stable and sustained, their overall subscriptions are far higher than what I thought they would be now. And the nice thing, unlike "other" channels (some smelly fruit comes to mind here) they all look like real proper subscribers and views.


TheStroBro wrote:
GTN is just over a year old. I've been a subscriber before they had 1k subscribers...when it comes to channel growth they're pretty effing steady. So when it comes to traction, I'd say that's pretty good traction. To the point where I'd say Taren's Triathlon news is a direct copy of the GTN Show.

To give an idea I suppose, you can compare Social Blade profiles:

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/globaltrinetwork

https://socialblade.com/...KDrz2GvLxD29W9tow66g



Both have a B-, but one's growth rate is much crazier than the others.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [mlegrand] [ In reply to ]
 
I'm with this. Taren's a good guy, I was subbed when he was at 3k and seeing the genesis of the channel, I'd just say a couple things
-He likes to be a human guinea pig. And it can come off as a bit of a magic bullet pitch, but he tries to caveat things a bit without sitting there giving you a full disclosure on camera
-He's building the Youtube avenue without as much help. I like GTN, but they benefit heavily from the GCN partnership. They got 40k subs when GCN announced, I think that GCN gets a bump from Youtube as well. And the way the channels present themselves is different, so comparing is kinda moot. Plus, having two channels of content for a whole sport really isn't that much
-He's trying to make this a business. Which means that he's lost some of the grassroots feel, but at the end of the day for him to put out content he's got to be able to afford expenses. And YouTube ad money on a niche YouTube channel is hard, so I'm willing to see some of the sponsored content because without it, his channel goes away.

TL;DR he's good for the sport. Maybe he doesn't cater to everyone's needs and he's got his quirks, but for triathlon to grow (survive) as a sport, they have to get more people in the door and that's what he can do.

Chasing PB Podcast Latest interview with Eli Hemming on Targeting a US MTR spot in Tokyo
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I think he should keep his videos to update news. He is becoming a better triathlete so some of his advice to beginners now is OK. However, his videos up to 2 months ago were junk when it came to triathlon advice. Total newbie. As far as the quality of the editing I think he does very well. I wish he just follow pros and do videos about them. Also, his product reviews are awful. He is like a kid in Disneyland.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [SwizBeats] [ In reply to ]
 
SwizBeats wrote:
No need to put in the hard work any more to be fast, you just need to follow / purchase as Taren does....

"How to guarantee you bike fast in a triathlon: get the most recognizable bike in tri..... the @ventumracingslap a super wild @bicyclemakeover decal on the bike and the huge @altocycling disc wheel canvas, wear the loudest tri shoes possible from @rideshimano get a matching kit from @scodyaus then get a badass position care of @matsteinmetzand some @51speedshop parts."

Yeah, I like Taren, but the above stuff has started to annoy me to the extent that he almost never disclose what, if any, economics or free/discounted gear are flowing to him. #sponsored

It's unclear to me whether he just wants to vouch for shit he likes -- I am fairly certain Shimano does not sponsor him in any sense -- or whether he is getting steeply discounted kit (did he pay >$3,000 for those Alto hoops, on a YouTube ad budget?)

In general, I agree that his assessments of products have a long way to go, regardless of the relationship. I mean, Ventum? Really?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [rwurbina] [ In reply to ]
 
rwurbina wrote:
I think he should keep his videos to update news. He is becoming a better triathlete so some of his advice to beginners now is OK. However, his videos up to 2 months ago were junk when it came to triathlon advice. Total newbie. As far as the quality of the editing I think he does very well. I wish he just follow pros and do videos about them. Also, his product reviews are awful. He is like a kid in Disneyland.

As a newbie I watched a lot of his videos initially but he comes across not just like a kid at Disneyland but like a kid I general. Fairly fragile ego and it seems like he's been able to leverage his spouse and this "business" to get a ton of free toys and a ton of time to train and go to camps and the like. I don't think he has kids and if she's on board more power to him but for me this comes through here and there in a way that isn't pleasing to me. Just my 2cents
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
 
@kileyay, Yeah, I agree completely. I really like how DCRainmaker makes it super clear that he's not taking money from a company and that his reviews are 100% his own. I did ask Taren about his trip to California to visit Tower 26 and it turns out that he paid for all of it himself. He mentioned that he tries to make it very clear when things are sponsored and I actually believe him.

As for my channel, I'm not really getting a lot of sponsorship offers coming my way. I do consulting work for Nike, so people will probably see me wearing swooshy stuff within videos. Seems like affiliate marketing is reasonable as long as it's just passing along links with an honest review. Hopefully Taren can find a way to make money so that he can continue to make triathlon related videos and doesn't have to switch over to making videos about cats.

Ventum . . . well, I'm not sure about that one ;)
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Re: Triathlon Taren [ChasingPB] [ In reply to ]
 
Personally, I liked Taren when he was a working man doing the youtube hustle. Youtubing full time is a mistake. Obviously he still has his business, because there's no way he's making enough to sustain this...but enough to fly Mel halfway across the world to film himself if we're talking: Ads, Sponsored videos, and "coaching plans". And good for him...but the moment he's like I'm going to youtube full time without over 100k in youtube subs turned me off. And then a lot of stuff is just clown shoes. Is Kim making that much cheddar to truly tolerate this? Or did he just crush it on commissions when he sold insurance and mutual funds to give him that runway?

Point is...Working Man struggle trying to get better at Triathlon, is so much more identifiable to his audience than where he's going now and it's probably hurting his growth. And to be honest, with how often his videos are in the playlist on the right when I'm watching GTN I'm sure GTN has helped drive his growth.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [DimaP] [ In reply to ]
 
You are just not getting the best advice in the market. You cannot get excited about every product that just came out. Half of them are expensive and not necessarily good. Look at the CervelĂ³ P5X or even the ventum( two big expensive pieces of junk). You are better off getting FREE advice from well established coaches via their podcasts, interviews, blogs, etc. Also, you can always get great product reviews perform by reputable swimmers, bikers, runners or even triathletes on YouTube or their websites.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [rwurbina] [ In reply to ]
 
rwurbina wrote:
Half of them are expensive and not necessarily good. Look at the CervelĂ³ P5X or even the ventum( two big expensive pieces of junk).

The P5x is the fastest bike there is. Not to mention it’s one of the most adjustable bikes on the market. I’ll give you fast, but calling it a piece of junk and not good, you’ve gotta be kidding me...

Matt
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
 
kileyay wrote:
SwizBeats wrote:
No need to put in the hard work any more to be fast, you just need to follow / purchase as Taren does....

"How to guarantee you bike fast in a triathlon: get the most recognizable bike in tri..... the @ventumracingslap a super wild @bicyclemakeover decal on the bike and the huge @altocycling disc wheel canvas, wear the loudest tri shoes possible from @rideshimano get a matching kit from @scodyaus then get a badass position care of @matsteinmetzand some @51speedshop parts."


Yeah, I like Taren, but the above stuff has started to annoy me to the extent that he almost never disclose what, if any, economics or free/discounted gear are flowing to him. #sponsored

It's unclear to me whether he just wants to vouch for shit he likes -- I am fairly certain Shimano does not sponsor him in any sense -- or whether he is getting steeply discounted kit (did he pay >$3,000 for those Alto hoops, on a YouTube ad budget?)

In general, I agree that his assessments of products have a long way to go, regardless of the relationship. I mean, Ventum? Really?


Specifically regarding sponsorship disclosure

-Ventum - made a video disclosing it was free and said it during his bike build series... I'm also skeptical of the bike
-BicycleMakeover - made a video talking about them making him a free custom decal during the bike build
-Alto - when he got the wheels he explained they sold him the wheels at cost and they weren't entirely free
-Shimano - disclosed when he got that groupset in a video he got it for free
-Scody - he's talked about them sponsoring and selling his kit
-51 speedshop - he made a video saying they got sent to him for free

Every one of them has a video where he discloses this... Just an FYI. I agree the product reviews aren't hard core but he's also pointed people to DC Rainmaker for those. Kinda like Casey Neistat refers you to real tech youtubers for reviews but still gives his opinion

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Re: Triathlon Taren [Pun_Times] [ In reply to ]
 
LOL ....time wil tell if the P5X is as great as the P4. Maybe you need to talk to some of the pros who were dropped by Cervelo last year. They all hated it and were outspoken about it. Most of them felt slow and had tons of issues with it. The P5 is a great bike and the best Tri bike of all time is the P3. Even today P3 is the best bike you can buy(value for $) whether you are a newbie or a Kona AG.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [rwurbina] [ In reply to ]
 
I could have sworn I saw a tweet saying a cervelo athlete used their P5 for a more technical course rather than their P5X and a few people speculated that it handles worse enough to change... hoping someone else also saw this otherwise I'm just making unsubstantiated memories

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Re: Triathlon Taren [rwurbina] [ In reply to ]
 
Hmmm...the Wurtele's still used their P5Xs until Parlee came along...the bike is proven to be extremely fast, there are some design issues I don't like (I want integrated hydration if I'm forking over 11k!).

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [rwurbina] [ In reply to ]
 
rwurbina wrote:
LOL ....time wil tell if the P5X is as great as the P4. Maybe you need to talk to some of the pros who were dropped by Cervelo last year. They all hated it and were outspoken about it. Most of them felt slow and had tons of issues with it. The P5 is a great bike and the best Tri bike of all time is the P3. Even today P3 is the best bike you can buy(value for $) whether you are a newbie or a Kona AG.

Look at the wind tunnel data. It’s the fastest. If you are going to argue about bikes use data. Not anecdotal evidence from pros who are no longer being sponsored. I mean at least show me who and where they said this. Otherwise it just looks like your are just making shit up

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Re: Triathlon Taren [ChasingPB] [ In reply to ]
 
ChasingPB wrote:
Specifically regarding sponsorship disclosure

-Ventum - made a video disclosing it was free and said it during his bike build series... I'm also skeptical of the bike
-BicycleMakeover - made a video talking about them making him a free custom decal during the bike build
-Alto - when he got the wheels he explained they sold him the wheels at cost and they weren't entirely free
-Shimano - disclosed when he got that groupset in a video he got it for free
-Scody - he's talked about them sponsoring and selling his kit
-51 speedshop - he made a video saying they got sent to him for free

Every one of them has a video where he discloses this... Just an FYI.

Got it. Maybe the problem is that I watch some of his videos but by no means all, and yet I see the bulk of his posts on Instagram. Seems like there is rarely a post where he isn’t tagging multiple companies / referencing multiple products. Even if he mentions the affiliation elsewhere, it comes across a little profamateurish
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [ChasingPB] [ In reply to ]
 
ChasingPB wrote:
-He's trying to make this a business. Which means that he's lost some of the grassroots feel, but at the end of the day for him to put out content he's got to be able to afford expenses. And YouTube ad money on a niche YouTube channel is hard, so I'm willing to see some of the sponsored content because without it, his channel goes away.


This is something that gets me a bit. I'll start with saying that I *completely* understand and respect and agree with the opinions that, if your sponsored content starts eroding your real opinions and you essentially turn into a modern day QVC for millennials, absolutely, I understand the pushback.

That said, broadly, I don't have any problem at all when people try to monetize. It takes a huge amount of time for him and anyone else. If you feel like you get value out of the content, either educationally or entertainment, *and* you aren't paying anything for the content, it's not unreasonable that he gets paid for his efforts. It's work just like any other. Especially for the professionals here who charge a large hourly for their knowledge, you wouldn't give that away for free, right? Point being, you've done the work and have the background to be able to charge for your experience. YouTube is the same. I think it's a little unreasonable to deride someone who literally makes content full time with millions of total views and then shit on them for wanting to make a living from it. GCN and GTN are both exactly the same, as is tv for that matter. You may or may not directly pay for it, but someone does. If you value the content and you don't want to pay for it, it seems unreasonable to complain that the creator wants to get compensated somehow.

I do agree that having your opinions swayed by whoever pays you, not disclosing sponsorship, that sort of thing pushes past my comfort level. I make some videos here and there but have zero intentions of ever going full time. I would never do that. Just like how everyone here likes discussing tri, I like doing it other mediums as well. Mostly I just remember how tough it was to start the sport and if I can help some beginners out, I'm happy. Things definitely change when you go full time and you start *needing* to make money.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
 
i don't do youtube (well other than Lionel's videos lol), and I can't stand to follow people like Taren on instagram (no I don't need to see a post of you working out everyday). I do listen to his podcasts from time to time when I've already attempted to listen to all the stuff I like better than his.

My main problem with Taren, and it's probably because I don't ingest all of his different content, is I can't decide what he wants to do. A lot of his stuff is just all about his training and racing and looking for followers and sponsors but then he also does interviews and seems to want to also be a triathlon news source? as well as coach now by creating training plans? I mean maybe you can do all of those things? It's just all confusing to me.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Pun_Times] [ In reply to ]
 
Again... the wind tunnel data made by who? Who pay for the test? You know there are a lot of letigimacy issues with the data we usually get as consumers. Every manufacturer always will try to make their latest products be better than anything else in the market. Also, we all know that what test best in the tunnel not necessarily be the fastest in the roads outside.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
 
Yeah, he should be following the Canadian disclosure guidelines, which means any IG post regarding the products he received for free he should be disclosing.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [rwurbina] [ In reply to ]
 
rwurbina wrote:
Again... the wind tunnel data made by who? Who pay for the test? You know there are a lot of letigimacy issues with the data we usually get as consumers. Every manufacturer always will try to make their latest products be better than anything else in the market. Also, we all know that what test best in the tunnel not necessarily be the fastest in the roads outside.

Uh...right thar laddy: https://www.slowtwitch.com/..._Peak_Aero_6429.html

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
On a somewhat related note: Does anybody know where Taren qualified for 70.3 WC?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Srlecey] [ In reply to ]
 
Austin, I think they had 2 slots for 35-39 (I just looked this up, thought he finished 8th) and it rolled down to him at 5th place.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
 
Holy shit balls...now he's straight up spreading falsehoods: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUQZPkytcQ

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [ChasingPB] [ In reply to ]
 
Dude has no business coaching swimming... should be farming this out...


Found 1 masters meet he swam at in 2014. He swam a 6:08 400m Free and 24:00 1500m Free but is listed as DQd for both swims...

Did he cheat and wear "Floaty" pants / illegal swimwear or was wearing a watch ?




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Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
At the end of the day, I think most people who are in this business will realize that the money to be made is by the masses that do very little additional research and take everything at face value. This seems to fit very much in line with companies like Ventum (18 mins faster), Alto, and whatever else Taren has aligned with. There is little compelling reason for me to suggest these products over cheaper and/or better products. I don't have a problem with people monetizing the business, but like when I took issue with the Zone 3 post last year with the athlete who claimed their wetsuit was 6 second faster per 100, it just does a disservice to athletes and their peers. I can't go and ethically suggest any BlueSeventy wetsuit is 6 seconds faster because no wetsuit is 6 seconds faster than another wetsuit. Is it flexible darn right... but I watched the exodus of sponsored athletes leave BS because BS stopped cutting checks. A new company came around and picked up the slack and sure enough athletes jumped ship. It is wash and repeat as businesses realize athletes aren't worth their checks. Truthfully, guys like Taren are probably worth more than 95% of all pros but content is going to be tailored to the masses and let's face it, while Slowtwitch is a great resource and largely popular, I would suggest the masses are not STers, nor are the masses experts on the digestibility of Whey.


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Re: Triathlon Taren [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
 
I'm not sure Taren is confused; he just wants to be 'relevant' ...a somebody. Personally, I have no interest in what all these wannabe influencers have to say. See my signature!

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Re: Triathlon Taren [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
 
The masses are most definitely NOT STers. From my anecdotal evidence, approximately 8 out of 10 have never heard of slowtwitch. I would argue, like any Internet forum, there is plenty of incorrect and misguided here. The longer you’re in triathlon you learn more of course and can identify bad information and I know here you start to learn certain posters who more consistently provide good information and not “magic fixes†to issues
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
Holy shit balls...now he's straight up spreading falsehoods: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUQZPkytcQ
He has an agenda. This video is completely unsurprising. This guy is a straight up tool.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
Holy shit balls...now he's straight up spreading falsehoods: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUQZPkytcQ

Like I said, when it comes to nutrition he has nfi and should just keep his mouth shut
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
 
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
At the end of the day, I think most people who are in this business will realize that the money to be made is by the masses that do very little additional research and take everything at face value. This seems to fit very much in line with companies like Ventum (18 mins faster), Alto, and whatever else Taren has aligned with. There is little compelling reason for me to suggest these products over cheaper and/or better products. I don't have a problem with people monetizing the business, but like when I took issue with the Zone 3 post last year with the athlete who claimed their wetsuit was 6 second faster per 100, it just does a disservice to athletes and their peers. I can't go and ethically suggest any BlueSeventy wetsuit is 6 seconds faster because no wetsuit is 6 seconds faster than another wetsuit. Is it flexible darn right... but I watched the exodus of sponsored athletes leave BS because BS stopped cutting checks. A new company came around and picked up the slack and sure enough athletes jumped ship. It is wash and repeat as businesses realize athletes aren't worth their checks. Truthfully, guys like Taren are probably worth more than 95% of all pros but content is going to be tailored to the masses and let's face it, while Slowtwitch is a great resource and largely popular, I would suggest the masses are not STers, nor are the masses experts on the digestibility of Whey.


I see not 6 seconds faster than another wetsuit
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Re: Triathlon Taren [RBR] [ In reply to ]
 
RBR wrote:

I just retested, won’t say the brand, and was 9 seconds faster than no wetsuit per 100 yards

Right on the front page of this website is a test showing 10 seconds faster per 100 yards

I think they're talking about a difference between wetsuits, not versus no-wetsuit. The difference between wetsuit & skins will depend on how good a swimmer you are without the rubber.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [ripple] [ In reply to ]
 
ripple wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:
Holy shit balls...now he's straight up spreading falsehoods: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUQZPkytcQ

He has an agenda. This video is completely unsurprising. This guy is a straight up tool.

I don't follow Taren and I'm certainly not an expert on nutrition. So what falsehoods is he peddling in this video considering he is willing to provide the links to the studies he is ostensibly quoting?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
 
haven't watched the video, but one of the issues is a fairly common trap, where people look at the outcome of a single study and extend those conclusions to situations that are beyond the scope of the study, when that gets to be on pretty shaky ground quite quickly. The other thing is looking at the latest piece of research and accepting that as definitive, when really it's just a small piece of a much larger puzzle.

But, marketers have a field day with that stuff, because it's an easy sell. "LOOK, SCIENCE SAYS <insert your product here> IS THE BEST!"

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
I watched the video and the take-away was to use a recovery drink with 4 to 1 carb to protein ratio after and regular food the rest of the day. I don't use OTC recovery drink mixes so he wasn't talking to me anyway, but I'm pretty sure I've heard that 4 to 1 stuff many times. Your point is well taken, but I would like to know what is specifically wrong in his statements even though I dismiss the majority of nutrition advice since there seems to be so much disagreement amongst the "experts".
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
 
He's stating that whey protein causes insulin spikes. It doesn't. As most whey powders have limited sugar content. In fact, every powder in my house has under 4gs of sugar. He's also trying to throw shade at Quest here saying he gets super hungry an hour later...HTF is a protein bar with 1g of Sugar going to give you an insulin spike? It's not.

When it comes to recovery mix of the 4 to 1 ratio seemingly pioneered by Pacific Health Labs and their product Endurox? They've got data to back it up. But even after a ride I always go for a scoop of whey. Also, this is why Rinny is on the Chocolate Milk campaign 4 to 1 ratio. At WVU about a decade ago they had a drinking fountain with NesQuik in it rather than water. Must have been a bitch to clean!

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Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
At WVU about a decade ago they had a drinking fountain with NesQuik in it rather than water. Must have been a bitch to clean!

That just sounds like a health code violation waiting to happen. All I can picture is cheesy milk clogging everything up.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
Thanks for the education. I tried a Quest bar - once. It was one of the worst-tasting protein bars I've ever had ... but good to know that it doesn't spike the blood sugar because he surely said it (and whey protein) would do that.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
watched one, found him annoying, so didn't watch any more. Some people like his channel though, so its all good.

Don't want to be a hater, but he reminds me way too much of Paul Giamatti aka Pig Vomit (Howard Stern Private Parts) and the movie Sideways. So I don't watch his stuff either!

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Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
He's stating that whey protein causes insulin spikes. It doesn't.


It does, and this is very well documented. It's not terribly clinically relevant however as it's generally mixed with other things that temper the response. This context is what guys like Taren miss because they know just enough to not know WTF they're talking about.

https://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-7075-9-48
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Pun_Times] [ In reply to ]
 
Pun_Times wrote:
rwurbina wrote:
Half of them are expensive and not necessarily good. Look at the CervelĂ³ P5X or even the ventum( two big expensive pieces of junk).


The P5x is the fastest bike there is. Not to mention it’s one of the most adjustable bikes on the market. I’ll give you fast, but calling it a piece of junk and not good, you’ve gotta be kidding me...

How is it the fastest bike there is? I cant find any comparison where a p5x riding pro has gone quicker on it than they did on the p5. Sorry, its marketing - yes it is adjustable but in the real world it simply isnt faster
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [jayski] [ In reply to ]
 
Actually Jayski, the p5x is the fastest. Do some research on this site and you'll find the comparison you're looking for.

jayski wrote:
Pun_Times wrote:
rwurbina wrote:
Half of them are expensive and not necessarily good. Look at the CervelĂ³ P5X or even the ventum( two big expensive pieces of junk).


The P5x is the fastest bike there is. Not to mention it’s one of the most adjustable bikes on the market. I’ll give you fast, but calling it a piece of junk and not good, you’ve gotta be kidding me...


How is it the fastest bike there is? I cant find any comparison where a p5x riding pro has gone quicker on it than they did on the p5. Sorry, its marketing - yes it is adjustable but in the real world it simply isnt faster
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
He's stating that whey protein causes insulin spikes. It doesn't. As most whey powders have limited sugar content. In fact, every powder in my house has under 4gs of sugar. He's also trying to throw shade at Quest here saying he gets super hungry an hour later...HTF is a protein bar with 1g of Sugar going to give you an insulin spike? It's not.

When it comes to recovery mix of the 4 to 1 ratio seemingly pioneered by Pacific Health Labs and their product Endurox? They've got data to back it up. But even after a ride I always go for a scoop of whey. Also, this is why Rinny is on the Chocolate Milk campaign 4 to 1 ratio. At WVU about a decade ago they had a drinking fountain with NesQuik in it rather than water. Must have been a bitch to clean!
Has nothing to do with amount of sugar in whey protein.

You are confusing blood sugar levels and insulin levels

Actually whey protein does cause an insulin spike because it is highly insulinogenic
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
 
HuffNPuff wrote:
Thanks for the education. I tried a Quest bar - once. It was one of the worst-tasting protein bars I've ever had ... but good to know that it doesn't spike the blood sugar because he surely said it (and whey protein) would do that.

I can’t remeber did he say it spikes insulin levels or blood sugar levels

It does NOT spike blood sugar levels unless it has extra sugar added ornit is a lower percentage of whey concentrate with more milk sugar.

It does however increase insulin level
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [RBR] [ In reply to ]
 
Thread reminds be of Howard Stern radio show

When it first came out. People who liked him listened for approx 22 mins. People who hated hot listened for approx 57 minutes

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Re: Triathlon Taren [RBR] [ In reply to ]
 
I've already forgotten what he said. And the subsequent responses on this thread are exactly why I don't get worked up over nutrition.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [RBR] [ In reply to ]
 
I will admit I followed the guy for a bit there, mostly interested in his progress as he started to get faster. We're about the same age, and he's as fast as I wish I could be. Having said that, I have been very put-off by videos as of late, as he seems to be more in the market of trying to get as much free stuff as he can get from vendors, and basically promotes absolutely anything. That is one thing I always admired about DC Rainmaker and the fact that he doesn't take anything for free, so he can remain un-biased. With Taren, I feel like he will promote absolutely anything that is given to him for free.

On top of that, this commitment of him putting out a video a day is causing him to put out some sub-par content.

And lastly, he has absolutely no reason to be given swimming advice to anyone. So he went to swim with Gerry for a few days and now he's an expert in triathlon swimming? A while back he posted on his IG story a video of him giving advice to an athlete on running his running form, right before a 70.3, and it was the silliest advice I have ever seen.

Oh wait, I have one more: During all his videos for 70.3 worlds this year, he kept telling his "trainiacs" to not use their disc, that if they had to make a decision what to bring, he would say "don't bring your disc, it's going to be too windy". What did the fucker end up riding in? A FUCKING DISC. I guess he wanted less competition.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
He's a big Lionel fan boy and doesn't critique hard...but then he'll go out and destroy Daniela in his post race commentary videos. Dude is a troll.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
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My favortie part of that video of how bad whey protein is.... is what the add was for right below the video.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
He's a big Lionel fan boy and doesn't critique hard...but then he'll go out and destroy Daniela in his post race commentary videos. Dude is a troll.

Of course he’s a fanboy, he’s Canadian.

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Re: Triathlon Taren: Whey is the true white devil! [ In reply to ]
 
So let's get this straight for this complete "aha moment" for Taren:

Two meals, whey protein and white wheat bread (WWB), matched with regard to carbohydrate content (25 g) were provided in the morning after an overnight fast and the whey addition caused a higher insulin release?

Wow, what a shocking discovery and so much validity in the context of post-exercise intake.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren: Whey is the true white devil! [ktm520] [ In reply to ]
 
I do watch it eventually on my warm ups. Today he posted something that after I have done some research for context I couldn't get my head around.

Don't want to be a hater, don't like that! But for someone with 10+ years in procurement and a some coding knowledge (freelance mostly for family between jobs ) is very hard to believe.

Hopefully I`m wrong. Just felt like sharing for awareness!
 
Re: Triathlon Taren: Whey is the true white devil! [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
I watch him from time to time when I’m on the treadmill. I watched his breakdown of Lionel at Kona and almost turned it off when he started spewing the Ventum bike is 17 minutes faster stuff. He also wore a hat and dropped a shout out to the company.

However, I will admit that his pacing and production keeps me entertained for 12-15 minutes.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [jayski] [ In reply to ]
 
jayski wrote:
Pun_Times wrote:
rwurbina wrote:
Half of them are expensive and not necessarily good. Look at the CervelĂ³ P5X or even the ventum( two big expensive pieces of junk).


The P5x is the fastest bike there is. Not to mention it’s one of the most adjustable bikes on the market. I’ll give you fast, but calling it a piece of junk and not good, you’ve gotta be kidding me...


How is it the fastest bike there is? I cant find any comparison where a p5x riding pro has gone quicker on it than they did on the p5. Sorry, its marketing - yes it is adjustable but in the real world it simply isnt faster

The P5X is the fastest there is or tied for first, until something can provide superior rider air flow management than it does. I say that for top sustainable speed.

Now is it fastest T1 to T2? Maybe not - because riding a race involves more than hammering down level straight lines. I am going to find out this summer, anecdotally at least, on my little test races. I'll give an honest shakedown.

The P5X is in a class of bikes I call "Barge Board" frames. These frames shield the lower body from impacting air. Other designs I see doing this are Dimond, the Andean (too much board), the Ceepo (did I miss any?). That new fork on the Specialized might also provide the same effect. Big hydration and storage air splitters at the head tube = same idea.

If you are a student of aero, like most pundits on here are, you are bonkers not to give one of these frames a few rides at least, just to feel the difference. It's pretty cool.

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Re: Triathlon Taren: Whey is the true white devil! [Parkland] [ In reply to ]
 
Parkland wrote:
I watch him from time to time when I’m on the treadmill. I watched his breakdown of Lionel at Kona and almost turned it off when he started spewing the Ventum bike is 17 minutes faster stuff. He also wore a hat and dropped a shout out to the company.

However, I will admit that his pacing and production keeps me entertained for 12-15 minutes.

When I first saw the channel I said " hmm what (western) province is this guy from? Quintessential Canadian, which is... well peculiarly charming.

He certainly means well but in Canada he'll have to pull out all the stops to make a go of it. Is there anyone doing something similar who is located in the USA?

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Re: Triathlon Taren: Whey is the true white devil! [SharkFM] [ In reply to ]
 
There are hundreds of instahoes in the "fitness" industry, he just focuses on this segment. Also, to be successful at this you gotta be a hot chick or show off your abs in every thumb nail

His sob story video today was annoying as hell.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
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Re: Triathlon Taren: Whey is the true white devil! [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
I don't get why you keep watching his content when all you do is sit on here and complain about it - you do know you can just unfollow, right?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [logella] [ In reply to ]
 
logella wrote:
Officially feel old as I have no idea what you are talking about.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
watched one, found him annoying, so didn't watch any more. Some people like his channel though, so its all good.

Product placement aside, I've been enjoying the GTN shows. They have a couple of videos now for the trainer, did the intervals one yesterday and it was a pretty good 30 minute session.

I like the GTN one but the does and don'ts one really annoyed me. Its stupid and a proper snowflake issue but I found it quite offensive personally.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
i think the last dozen or so comments sum it up. you need to clean this up. you dislike things; i dislike things; but you and a half-dozen others make it a hobby to dislike things in a particularly vitriolic and nasty way.

if you guys don't clean it up, then i have to clean it up. but somebody's got to clean this up. you go first. and to be clear, it's not your tastes i mind. or your opinions. it's your delivery.

Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
 
Thank god

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Re: Triathlon Taren [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
 
Slowman wrote:
i think the last dozen or so comments sum it up. you need to clean this up. you dislike things; i dislike things; but you and a half-dozen others make it a hobby to dislike things in a particularly vitriolic and nasty way.

if you guys don't clean it up, then i have to clean it up. but somebody's got to clean this up. you go first. and to be clear, it's not your tastes i mind. or your opinions. it's your delivery.

Nailed it.

(I know I didn't reply back on the other thread we were discussing related things on - my bad, but I think your response here actually summarizes roughly what I was attempting to say and why changing that culture of those that make it a hobby is important for ST to keep on getting the best in triathlon to come here and not just read, but post. Especially this specific part - "...dislike things in a particularly vitriolic and nasty way". Good to see.)


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My tiny little slice of the internets: dcrainmaker.com
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dcrainmaker] [ In reply to ]
 
Again, I don’t hate, love is what we need anywhere ( slowtwich for sure need some )

I just want to create awareness, because I got scammed in my life and it is not nice – and I`m not saying Taren got scammed or his viewers got scammed – just crashing some facts ->

A crowd funding of any nature is created to have a web training platform for newbies with apparently no fitness professional involved – that is borderline irresponsible. Hope he has something as any kind of certification.

Not saying training peaks have to be the only one in the market, but at least you get experienced professionals sending you proper training.

200 individuals sign up, don’t know how much, but let’s call it $100 each, it is interesting sum of money!

I used to follow him (unfollow yesterday) and from that point on he made some trips that would be very expensive

Plus the garage and patio that is not of my business and according to him he got a line of credit for that ( I really want to know his bank )

How I know all of that? Because in my mind I was thinking -> This guy must be a Financial genius. I have a 2 income household ( both with above average income for the Midwest ) no kids and we do travel but always get cheap flights, hotels and I do all my races locally so I don’t have to get air tickets and pay to ship my bike.

There is some youtube channels that are about traveling ( Sailing la Vagabond is one example ) and they have Patrons that basically pay that couple to travel the world sailing! Cool, if you like the content, you have money to spare….why not….your money.

They only thing that bothers me is creating a platform and offering a service without proper training for that purposely , collecting upfront money from people that dont really know the sport yet and reporting everything is ok ( never really showing any kind of layout, preview, screenshot ) and after 4 months reported we got scammed. I watched again…a lot of the chat got edited. Maybe he was not the one scammed.

The PMO part of it I`m not even talking about. I would get fired if I had a project, trusted people are doing ok without any kind of report, timeline or KPIs and after 4 months there is NOTHING to show my Boss - don't full yourself....those 200 people are now investors on that platform....therefore your Boss!

So that is my take on the whole thing. Don’t want to be a hater but I was really disappointed about that video. Traveling the world ( FIRST CLASS ) and telling people you are cashing on your saving is just odd to me!

I used to be a fan, used to watch when I could to help him.....no more!
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dcrainmaker] [ In reply to ]
 
Ray,

There is a massive difference between what you've done and what Taren is doing. I know Dan replied to me, which I find a horrible feature of this forum rather than a "quick reply" button, but beggars and choosers.

I laid out my gripes in a pretty civil manner, I didn't accuse him of blowing his kickstarter money on going to Kona, but he definitely could save himself some solid cash and reinvigorate his previous business so that he can at least get by. Yeah, kudos to him for sharing his life story. But, there is no vitriol. These are legit criticisms, if he clickbaits me, he deserves to get hard critical feedback because that means his video fluff and no substance just like every instahoe on the planet.

Maybe I didn't see it, but I don't remember Dan telling anyone in the Ashley Horner thread to tone it down and that thread was nastier than cow pies. If a guy is going to give out unintelligent nutrition advice and has no certifications to spout said advice: he deserves buyer beware.

Does the world need more love? Sure, but at the end of the day we're all judges. We judge everything we see or do, hell Taren judges Daniela Ryf in his videos to just generate clicks. So, with that I disagree.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
My honest suggestion would be giving updates from the litigation process against this developer. At least to the people that gave him money.

One other suggestion, why not doing like Cody Beals and showing how much he got from sponsors, crowdfunding and how much he spend on traveling, races.

That is transparency to me, no scrolling down an edit word file.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
I’ve watched his video and have come to a few conclusions:

1. His app seems like Strava except with training videos. Cool but not super original and I wouldn’t pay when Strava’s free and widely used.
2. If he takes money from investors he has to be accountable and offer to reimburse them if they want out. He says this won’t happen due to the scam. I’m not sure that’s great business practice and investors need to know this up front.

I hope everything works out for him, but it seems he is stretching himself thin in areas he doesn’t have much experience in like software development and contract procurement. I can see some questioning of his honest because some of his practices are questionable, but the ugliness is not warranted. We need to see where it’s at by January 1st. If it’s not done his credibility will be in serious question then. Hopefully that’s not the case.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
FaKaspar wrote:
Again, I don’t hate, love is what we need anywhere ( slowtwich for sure need some )

I just want to create awareness, because I got scammed in my life and it is not nice – and I`m not saying Taren got scammed or his viewers got scammed – just crashing some facts ->

A crowd funding of any nature is created to have a web training platform for newbies with apparently no fitness professional involved – that is borderline irresponsible. Hope he has something as any kind of certification.

Not saying training peaks have to be the only one in the market, but at least you get experienced professionals sending you proper training.

200 individuals sign up, don’t know how much, but let’s call it $100 each, it is interesting sum of money!

I used to follow him (unfollow yesterday) and from that point on he made some trips that would be very expensive

Plus the garage and patio that is not of my business and according to him he got a line of credit for that ( I really want to know his bank )

How I know all of that? Because in my mind I was thinking -> This guy must be a Financial genius. I have a 2 income household ( both with above average income for the Midwest ) no kids and we do travel but always get cheap flights, hotels and I do all my races locally so I don’t have to get air tickets and pay to ship my bike.

There is some youtube channels that are about traveling ( Sailing la Vagabond is one example ) and they have Patrons that basically pay that couple to travel the world sailing! Cool, if you like the content, you have money to spare….why not….your money.

They only thing that bothers me is creating a platform and offering a service without proper training for that purposely , collecting upfront money from people that dont really know the sport yet and reporting everything is ok ( never really showing any kind of layout, preview, screenshot ) and after 4 months reported we got scammed. I watched again…a lot of the chat got edited. Maybe he was not the one scammed.

The PMO part of it I`m not even talking about. I would get fired if I had a project, trusted people are doing ok without any kind of report, timeline or KPIs and after 4 months there is NOTHING to show my Boss - don't full yourself....those 200 people are now investors on that platform....therefore your Boss!

So that is my take on the whole thing. Don’t want to be a hater but I was really disappointed about that video. Traveling the world ( FIRST CLASS ) and telling people you are cashing on your saving is just odd to me!

I used to be a fan, used to watch when I could to help him.....no more!
So, to get this kinda straight, you were unhappy and miserable because you and your family cannot fly FIRST CLASS but he did and therefore had your respect and now you are happy and justified because he crashed and burned...but you are also upset because you supported him by watching youtube and that was a waste...;you lost me there!
Anyway, I think Taren identified a need that was missing in triathlon, he delivered and people responded. He has put a lot of effort in creating a
cheerful, happy and not grumpy community and I hope his platform works. If his product is not up to par and the people who follow and pay for his training plans drop dead like flies from severe skull stress fractures, then his subscriber base will shrink and he will start flying economy again...Either way, the specific need/niche of the triathlon community is still there...TP is not appealing to everyone...

"Discipline is the highest of all virtues. Only so may strength and desire be counterbalanced and the endeavors of man bear fruit."
Nikos Kazantzakis, The Rock Garden
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [nikane] [ In reply to ]
 
nikane wrote:
FaKaspar wrote:
Again, I don’t hate, love is what we need anywhere ( slowtwich for sure need some )

I just want to create awareness, because I got scammed in my life and it is not nice – and I`m not saying Taren got scammed or his viewers got scammed – just crashing some facts ->

A crowd funding of any nature is created to have a web training platform for newbies with apparently no fitness professional involved – that is borderline irresponsible. Hope he has something as any kind of certification.

Not saying training peaks have to be the only one in the market, but at least you get experienced professionals sending you proper training.

200 individuals sign up, don’t know how much, but let’s call it $100 each, it is interesting sum of money!

I used to follow him (unfollow yesterday) and from that point on he made some trips that would be very expensive

Plus the garage and patio that is not of my business and according to him he got a line of credit for that ( I really want to know his bank )

How I know all of that? Because in my mind I was thinking -> This guy must be a Financial genius. I have a 2 income household ( both with above average income for the Midwest ) no kids and we do travel but always get cheap flights, hotels and I do all my races locally so I don’t have to get air tickets and pay to ship my bike.

There is some youtube channels that are about traveling ( Sailing la Vagabond is one example ) and they have Patrons that basically pay that couple to travel the world sailing! Cool, if you like the content, you have money to spare….why not….your money.

They only thing that bothers me is creating a platform and offering a service without proper training for that purposely , collecting upfront money from people that dont really know the sport yet and reporting everything is ok ( never really showing any kind of layout, preview, screenshot ) and after 4 months reported we got scammed. I watched again…a lot of the chat got edited. Maybe he was not the one scammed.

The PMO part of it I`m not even talking about. I would get fired if I had a project, trusted people are doing ok without any kind of report, timeline or KPIs and after 4 months there is NOTHING to show my Boss - don't full yourself....those 200 people are now investors on that platform....therefore your Boss!

So that is my take on the whole thing. Don’t want to be a hater but I was really disappointed about that video. Traveling the world ( FIRST CLASS ) and telling people you are cashing on your saving is just odd to me!

I used to be a fan, used to watch when I could to help him.....no more!

So, to get this kinda straight, you were unhappy and miserable because you and your family cannot fly FIRST CLASS but he did and therefore had your respect and now you are happy and justified because he crashed and burned...but you are also upset because you supported him by watching youtube and that was a waste...;you lost me there!
Anyway, I think Taren identified a need that was missing in triathlon, he delivered and people responded. He has put a lot of effort in creating a
cheerful, happy and not grumpy community and I hope his platform works. If his product is not up to par and the people who follow and pay for his training plans drop dead like flies from severe skull stress fractures, then his subscriber base will shrink and he will start flying economy again...Either way, the specific need/niche of the triathlon community is still there...TP is not appealing to everyone...


I just think you cant cry in front of a camera when you do all those trips. I'm pretty happy thank you for asking!

I felt like helping him actually at that time. And now I`m happy a didn't

Cash flow is something important in business. I had my own business - you don't go overboard, you don't travel like that. I do smart business, you protect yourself - and still is hard to make it ( I didn't )


But I`ve never insulted you, I don't know you and you don't know me, you don't know if I`m grumpy or sad. Don`t get personal if you don`t have anything to say, to add or subtract! We are talking about something else. This is called Forum....people talk about things....not attack someone because you a fan boy of a Youtuber.

I`m not using bad words, I`m not even accusing Taren! I`m saying he made really bad decisions....and yes he lost my audience....and he is probably zero worried about that.

So please be civilized!

Looks like you got burn on this deal too, so for that I forgive you!
Last edited by: FaKaspar: Oct 25, 18 19:36
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
Ray,

There is a massive difference between what you've done and what Taren is doing. I know Dan replied to me, which I find a horrible feature of this forum rather than a "quick reply" button, but beggars and choosers.

I laid out my gripes in a pretty civil manner, I didn't accuse him of blowing his kickstarter money on going to Kona, but he definitely could save himself some solid cash and reinvigorate his previous business so that he can at least get by. Yeah, kudos to him for sharing his life story. But, there is no vitriol. These are legit criticisms, if he clickbaits me, he deserves to get hard critical feedback because that means his video fluff and no substance just like every instahoe on the planet.

Maybe I didn't see it, but I don't remember Dan telling anyone in the Ashley Horner thread to tone it down and that thread was nastier than cow pies. If a guy is going to give out unintelligent nutrition advice and has no certifications to spout said advice: he deserves buyer beware.

Does the world need more love? Sure, but at the end of the day we're all judges. We judge everything we see or do, hell Taren judges Daniela Ryf in his videos to just generate clicks. So, with that I disagree.

no, you did not lay out your gripes in a civil manner. about a dozen people who were posting here 3 weeks ago and aren't here today feel as you do - that they were civil.

Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
FaKaspar wrote:
those 200 people are now investors on that platform....therefore your Boss!

Nope.. they simply donated to support the project in exchange for some (marginal) benefits. Lots of people on this thread have referred to funders as investors.. it may seem like just semantics but it's not. If you take investor money you have fiduciary duties associated with that. The bar is way, way lower on Kickstarter and I can't imagine that what happened to Taren is that unusual on there.

And for those that said people are investors and therefore are entitled to their money back because things aren't working out. That's also not how it works anyway (I know, I know you can sometimes get a put option on your investment but that's not what we're talking about here).

I'll crawl back in my hole now
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [bigredrude] [ In reply to ]
 
bigredrude wrote:


Nope.. they simply donated to support the project in exchange for some (marginal) benefits. Lots of people on this thread have referred to funders as investors.. it may seem like just semantics but it's not. If you take investor money you have fiduciary duties associated with that. The bar is way, way lower on Kickstarter and I can't imagine that what happened to Taren is that unusual on there.

And for those that said people are investors and therefore are entitled to their money back because things aren't working out. That's also not how it works anyway (I know, I know you can sometimes get a put option on your investment but that's not what we're talking about here).

I'll crawl back in my hole now


Actually you're incorrect. They purchased a piece of an end product. Although not shareholders they are in a sense "creditors". Depending on what level "reward" the person purchased, if the project fails and he cannot fulfill the "rewards" he is required by Kickstarters Terms of Use to refund all backers who do not receive their "reward". Now, enforcing that provision does require legal action (specifically based on the last sentence). So I would say yes it's similar to a stockholder that feels they've been defrauded and then sues the company and names the CEO and board chair in the suit rather than a stockholder just cutting their losses at market.

Kickstarter wrote:

Is a creator legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project?
Yes. Kickstarter's Terms of Use require creators to fulfill all rewards of their project or refund any backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill. (This is what creators see before they launch.) We crafted these terms to create a legal requirement for creators to follow through on their projects, and to give backers a recourse if they don't. We hope that backers will consider using this provision only in cases where they feel that a creator has not made a good faith effort to complete the project and fulfill.
https://www.kickstarter.com/...ility-on-kickstarter

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
Last edited by: TheStroBro: Oct 26, 18 7:42
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:


Actually you're incorrect. They purchased a piece of an end product. Although not shareholders they are in a sense "creditors". Depending on what level "reward" the person purchased, if the project fails and he cannot fulfill the "rewards" he is required by Kickstarters Terms of Use to refund all backers who do not receive their "reward". Now, enforcing that provision does require legal action (specifically based on the last sentence). So I would say yes it's similar to a stockholder that feels they've been defrauded and then sues the company and names the CEO and board chair in the suit rather than a stockholder just cutting their losses at market.

Kickstarter wrote:

Is a creator legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project?
Yes. Kickstarter's Terms of Use require creators to fulfill all rewards of their project or refund any backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill. (This is what creators see before they launch.) We crafted these terms to create a legal requirement for creators to follow through on their projects, and to give backers a recourse if they don't. We hope that backers will consider using this provision only in cases where they feel that a creator has not made a good faith effort to complete the project and fulfill.
https://www.kickstarter.com/...ility-on-kickstarter

ah.. well then they're definitely not investors.. I obviously missed that protection funders get. Thanks for pointing that out. That last sentence in the kickstarter language is interesting.. basically relying on funders to use judgement before taking action.

I stand corrected, partially!
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [realAB] [ In reply to ]
 
realAB wrote:
Dude has no business coaching swimming... should be farming this out...


Found 1 masters meet he swam at in 2014. He swam a 6:08 400m Free and 24:00 1500m Free but is listed as DQd for both swims...

Did he cheat and wear "Floaty" pants / illegal swimwear or was wearing a watch ?



I’m sure theres plenty of good swim coaches that aren’t great athletes.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TriguyBlue] [ In reply to ]
 
TriguyBlue wrote:
realAB wrote:
Dude has no business coaching swimming... should be farming this out...


Found 1 masters meet he swam at in 2014. He swam a 6:08 400m Free and 24:00 1500m Free but is listed as DQd for both swims...

Did he cheat and wear "Floaty" pants / illegal swimwear or was wearing a watch ?



I’m sure theres plenty of good swim coaches that aren’t great athletes.

Not as many as you’d think. (Replacing “great†with “decentâ€).

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Re: Triathlon Taren [pbnz] [ In reply to ]
 
So many haters out there.

Give the guy a break, his story in itself is inspiring, in terms of his weight loss and transformation and development as an athlete.



I completely agree.

I think there is a big need for someone like Taren because if people come here for advise, the same ones going after Taren will go after them. I think he offers a "safe" zone for beginners and intermediates and I applaud him for recognizing that.

 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
 
Sanuk wrote:
So many haters out there.

Give the guy a break, his story in itself is inspiring, in terms of his weight loss and transformation and development as an athlete.



I completely agree.

I think there is a big need for someone like Taren because if people come here for advise, the same ones going after Taren will go after them. I think he offers a "safe" zone for beginners and intermediates and I applaud him for recognizing that.


That's like saying someone who criticizes how a NFL team played on the weekend is also going to criticize a 10 year old in the same way. I think you would struggle to find any posts here not supportive of new comers. I think you equally would struggle to find any post here critical of Tarren without merit.

I agree there is a need for someone like Tarren but people shouldn't be scared from calling out silly things he says or does (for fear of being called a 'hater'...).
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
Yeah haters gonna hate, but I am thrilled to have a regular source of content about triathlon.

Is it perfect and gripping all the time? No.

But in a niche sport with mainstream media appearances you can count on one hand, TT provides news, race analysis, training tips, and opinions on controversial topics.

I like watching stuff about triathlon, and TT provides more of what I like. Without him, I'd be watching far more 10+ year old vids of long since retired ironman has-beens doing their thing in the 90s.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [ryanderrick] [ In reply to ]
 
Lol so Taren went 'there' again and gave everyone some nutritional advice-face palm..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ctGOQocuZtw



Some of the comments were brutal but this has to be my fav- he is spot on IMHO

"I love you Taren. But, for a second of real talk. You are not a keto athlete. You are not fat adapted. In your adult life, you have NEVER experienced ketosis. You think MCT Oil doesn't break a fast because it is "clear". Jesus man....any calories break a fast. You buy into the marketing tactics of the failing mushroom industry. Dude. "overtaxing the gut" dude...wtf? You're just listening to talking heads on the internet and spouting this shit out as if it was facts. The facts are: you are a decent age group 70.3 athlete. You are not exceptional. You train more than enough, but your diet shows your lack of commitment to your own performance. So please, STOP trying to get people to eat like you. You need to lose 6-8% body fat while maintaining your muscle mass if you ever want to break out. Otherwise, please, just focus on being a news reporter, because your health, diet, performance,and fitness is not helping your cause."
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
dunno wrote:
Lol so Taren went 'there' again and gave everyone some nutritional advice-face palm..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ctGOQocuZtw



Some of the comments were brutal but this has to be my fav- he is spot on IMHO

"I love you Taren. But, for a second of real talk. You are not a keto athlete. You are not fat adapted. In your adult life, you have NEVER experienced ketosis. You think MCT Oil doesn't break a fast because it is "clear". Jesus man....any calories break a fast. You buy into the marketing tactics of the failing mushroom industry. Dude. "overtaxing the gut" dude...wtf? You're just listening to talking heads on the internet and spouting this shit out as if it was facts. The facts are: you are a decent age group 70.3 athlete. You are not exceptional. You train more than enough, but your diet shows your lack of commitment to your own performance. So please, STOP trying to get people to eat like you. You need to lose 6-8% body fat while maintaining your muscle mass if you ever want to break out. Otherwise, please, just focus on being a news reporter, because your health, diet, performance,and fitness is not helping your cause."

Yeah, Taren has some weird ideas about food. I also didn't understand why he thought MCT Oil doesn't break a fast.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
eh, i still like em though. I just like to have things on or listen to people discuss triathlon or topics that I find interesting. Even if sometimes its just for noise while I am having a few beers after a run. I find it similar enough to listening to friends talk after a run club about their ideas on training or things they are trying. Not everything has to pan out as we are all experimenting and seeing what little things others are doing that may help us. In saying that, some of these things would be cool to have as a form of live session where he could present as he does on the channel, but have it as an open dialogue. He says it all the time yet people don't want to listen when he does, but he isn't an expert and this is his take at the present time.

I understand the venting about advice or opinions, but sometimes these threads get way to obsessive and negative. I hope he makes it big just doing what hes doing. Fuck, i wish I could do what he does instead of working in this shitty ass cubicle daydreaming of running by being on slowtwitch instead of working all day.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [AlyraD] [ In reply to ]
 
AlyraD wrote:
I understand the venting about advice or opinions, but sometimes these threads get way to obsessive and negative.

Some of his ideas, especially those about nutrition are really pushing the boundaries of what is reasonable. A lot of those products don't really have scientific backing for the effectiveness, and are actually pretty expensive. I am glad there is push back at least on this, so people don't just go and buy the stuff he promotes.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
TulkasTri wrote:
AlyraD wrote:
I understand the venting about advice or opinions, but sometimes these threads get way to obsessive and negative.

Some of his ideas, especially those about nutrition are really pushing the boundaries of what is reasonable. A lot of those products don't really have scientific backing for the effectiveness, and are actually pretty expensive. I am glad there is push back at least on this, so people don't just go and buy the stuff he promotes.

I'd like to see the scientific backing that the colour of what you are eating dictates if it breaks a fast lol.....hmmmm hey Vodka is clear, I might be on to something!

He also once said protein powder was catabolic. Really like the guy but please just don't talk hocus pocus nutrition
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
Hmm, maybe so. I actually never watch any video on nutrition as I feel like most people don't know what they are doing. . .and neither do I! As far as I get with nutrition is this post :)

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Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
Wow this video is a joke...he says we need to remain in a fat burning state? Okay dude. This is a really bad video. So is he going to start eating bacon while racing? "I got this 130 KCALs of fat that's gonna keep me in a fasted state..." Uh, you just broke it dude.

Also...apparently Lucy Charles is going to do a collab with him...aka it sounds like he's going to try and become Talbot...

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
Last edited by: TheStroBro: Dec 7, 18 11:05
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
dunno wrote:
Lol so Taren went 'there' again and gave everyone some nutritional advice-face palm..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ctGOQocuZtw



Some of the comments were brutal but this has to be my fav- he is spot on IMHO

"I love you Taren. But, for a second of real talk. You are not a keto athlete. You are not fat adapted. In your adult life, you have NEVER experienced ketosis. You think MCT Oil doesn't break a fast because it is "clear". Jesus man....any calories break a fast. You buy into the marketing tactics of the failing mushroom industry. Dude. "overtaxing the gut" dude...wtf? You're just listening to talking heads on the internet and spouting this shit out as if it was facts. The facts are: you are a decent age group 70.3 athlete. You are not exceptional. You train more than enough, but your diet shows your lack of commitment to your own performance. So please, STOP trying to get people to eat like you. You need to lose 6-8% body fat while maintaining your muscle mass if you ever want to break out. Otherwise, please, just focus on being a news reporter, because your health, diet, performance,and fitness is not helping your cause."

I couldn't help thinking this too watching his day of eating videos. Just on and on with almond butter and oils and crap like that. Stop eating so much! Most of your activities only burn 5-700 kcals, don't worry so much about the pre fuel/post fuel spirulina, mct, vegan, mushroom crap. Workout, eat 3 meals a day and lose 10 lbs.

Agr

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Re: Triathlon Taren [Jordano] [ In reply to ]
 
Jordano wrote:
dunno wrote:
Lol so Taren went 'there' again and gave everyone some nutritional advice-face palm..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ctGOQocuZtw



Some of the comments were brutal but this has to be my fav- he is spot on IMHO

"I love you Taren. But, for a second of real talk. You are not a keto athlete. You are not fat adapted. In your adult life, you have NEVER experienced ketosis. You think MCT Oil doesn't break a fast because it is "clear". Jesus man....any calories break a fast. You buy into the marketing tactics of the failing mushroom industry. Dude. "overtaxing the gut" dude...wtf? You're just listening to talking heads on the internet and spouting this shit out as if it was facts. The facts are: you are a decent age group 70.3 athlete. You are not exceptional. You train more than enough, but your diet shows your lack of commitment to your own performance. So please, STOP trying to get people to eat like you. You need to lose 6-8% body fat while maintaining your muscle mass if you ever want to break out. Otherwise, please, just focus on being a news reporter, because your health, diet, performance,and fitness is not helping your cause."


I couldn't help thinking this too watching his day of eating videos. Just on and on with almond butter and oils and crap like that. Stop eating so much! Most of your activities only burn 5-700 kcals, don't worry so much about the pre fuel/post fuel spirulina, mct, vegan, mushroom crap. Workout, eat 3 meals a day and lose 10 lbs.

Agr

Losing 6-8% bodyfat might be a bit too much. But he is really overcomplicating things, who has 10 minutes in the morning just to make a shake?
The funny thing is that whenever Pros are being interviewed about diet, it becomes so damn clear that they are not doing all kind of wierd shit, but just eat a well balanced healthy diet, in the correct amount, and that is it.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
Not to mention that he's now critiquing swim strokes of pro's...albeit with disclaimers, but if you're disclaimer is "I don't know that much about swimming, you should look to Gerry for advice," maybe you shouldn't be giving advice.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [boobooaboo] [ In reply to ]
 
boobooaboo wrote:
Not to mention that he's now critiquing swim strokes of pro's...albeit with disclaimers, but if you're disclaimer is "I don't know that much about swimming, you should look to Gerry for advice," maybe you shouldn't be giving advice.

I noticed that. His critique is fine, so far as it goes, but he misses a lot of the details that actually matter.

The other thing is that I’m not really sure of the point of analyzing pros strokes in that manner. It’s one thing to use video of the pros to demonstrate some concept that you are talking about, and it’s quite another to deconstruct someone’s stroke, which may or may not have anything to do with their success (or lack of) in the water.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
Quote:
The other thing is that I’m not really sure of the point of analyzing pros strokes in that manner

Content=clicks=revenue

I'd watch his videos a few years ago when he was explaining a few beginner things and I was starting out. Didn't take it as absolute fact, but watched some. Now it seems he's venturing into a completely different territory. And from the looks of recent videos (I hadn't watched in a long time until recently), hes cashing in on sponsorships and such. I now more now and it just seems a little harder to watch.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:

I noticed that. His critique is fine, so far as it goes, but he misses a lot of the details that actually matter.

The other thing is that I’m not really sure of the point of analyzing pros strokes in that manner. It’s one thing to use video of the pros to demonstrate some concept that you are talking about, and it’s quite another to deconstruct someone’s stroke, which may or may not have anything to do with their success (or lack of) in the water.

He started doing this last year with Pros at Kona when it came to their running form. Like I said, when we found him last year we thought he was great for beginners [us] and had a lot of knowledge to share. Now...he's actually hurting beginners with the crap he's spewing.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:

I noticed that. His critique is fine, so far as it goes, but he misses a lot of the details that actually matter.

The other thing is that I’m not really sure of the point of analyzing pros strokes in that manner. It’s one thing to use video of the pros to demonstrate some concept that you are talking about, and it’s quite another to deconstruct someone’s stroke, which may or may not have anything to do with their success (or lack of) in the water.

He started doing this last year with Pros at Kona when it came to their running form. Like I said, when we found him last year we thought he was great for beginners [us] and had a lot of knowledge to share. Now...he's actually hurting beginners with the crap he's spewing.


First episode I watched was his bike fit video.
What a fucking disaster!
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Jordano] [ In reply to ]
 
Since the training platform disaster I unsubscribed and at this point youtube won`t give me any of his vlogs as suggestions anymore.

So clicked the link and watched....the first 3 min at least

Giving nutritional advice without any training/degree base on what you learnt on the internet is dangerous - especially when your views are mainly newbies that are probably coming in the sport to lose any kind of weight.

Swim technique critique....even tho you were never a competitive swimmer is ok...everybody is entitle to an opinion I guess. Bad bike fit....I paid for mine and I keep modifying it every single season ( just like Lionel Sanders lol )

But nutrition is something important not only to triathletes but to every single person. Even nutritionists ask you a sh*t ton of questions and ask for blood work before recommending you something.

Hope people when watching it understand that everybody is different and what works for Taren, or me doesn't necessarily works for you!
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
FaKaspar wrote:
Since the training platform disaster I unsubscribed and at this point youtube won`t give me any of his vlogs as suggestions anymore.

So clicked the link and watched....the first 3 min at least

Giving nutritional advice without any training/degree base on what you learnt on the internet is dangerous - especially when your views are mainly newbies that are probably coming in the sport to lose any kind of weight.

Swim technique critique....even tho you were never a competitive swimmer is ok...everybody is entitle to an opinion I guess. Bad bike fit....I paid for mine and I keep modifying it every single season ( just like Lionel Sanders lol )

But nutrition is something important not only to triathletes but to every single person. Even nutritionists ask you a sh*t ton of questions and ask for blood work before recommending you something.

Hope people when watching it understand that everybody is different and what works for Taren, or me doesn't necessarily works for you!

Fwiw, the entire business model of many on Youtubers is to focus on producing content, content, content. The really successful Youtubers actually preach this, that it is necessarily about quality, it is on quantity, and sometimes ruffling some feathers is good. There are of course Youtubers who don't focus on this strategy and have also become successful, but usually on a smaller scale. At the end of the day we are talking about Taren, he is gaining viewers, and he mostly instructs newbie athletes anyway that may not know any better and treat anything that comes out of his mouth as gospel. The majority of those viewers are not going to come here to learn otherwise. It is what it is at this point.


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Re: Triathlon Taren [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
 
Well the highest paid youtuber this year was a 7 yr old boy talking about toys.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
 
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
FaKaspar wrote:
Since the training platform disaster I unsubscribed and at this point youtube won`t give me any of his vlogs as suggestions anymore.

So clicked the link and watched....the first 3 min at least

Giving nutritional advice without any training/degree base on what you learnt on the internet is dangerous - especially when your views are mainly newbies that are probably coming in the sport to lose any kind of weight.

Swim technique critique....even tho you were never a competitive swimmer is ok...everybody is entitle to an opinion I guess. Bad bike fit....I paid for mine and I keep modifying it every single season ( just like Lionel Sanders lol )

But nutrition is something important not only to triathletes but to every single person. Even nutritionists ask you a sh*t ton of questions and ask for blood work before recommending you something.

Hope people when watching it understand that everybody is different and what works for Taren, or me doesn't necessarily works for you!


Fwiw, the entire business model of many on Youtubers is to focus on producing content, content, content. The really successful Youtubers actually preach this, that it is necessarily about quality, it is on quantity, and sometimes ruffling some feathers is good. There are of course Youtubers who don't focus on this strategy and have also become successful, but usually on a smaller scale. At the end of the day we are talking about Taren, he is gaining viewers, and he mostly instructs newbie athletes anyway that may not know any better and treat anything that comes out of his mouth as gospel. The majority of those viewers are not going to come here to learn otherwise. It is what it is at this point.

Yeah, I kind of know that. when I realized it decide not to give my attention ( clicks/views ) anymore. I still think GTN is a good example of responsible content. A guy that was in the pro circuit and an Olympian ( even tho was not at triathlon ) is way better source of content.

As an example: morning shake vid published 12/3 right now - 12/8 12:16 - 4,047 views
GNT's vid about cycling workout published 12/4 ( sponsored by trainingpeaks btw ) right now - 12/8 12:19 - 13.610 views

Wonder what is the best strategy!

As my father once told me - If we had the Soccer ( Football ) World Cup every year nobody would care that much.

Again don't want to be called a hater. Constructive criticism is something people should embrace more nowadays.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
FaKaspar wrote:
Yeah, I kind of know that. when I realized it decide not to give my attention ( clicks/views ) anymore. I still think GTN is a good example of responsible content. A guy that was in the pro circuit and an Olympian ( even tho was not at triathlon ) is way better source of content.

As an example: morning shake vid published 12/3 right now - 12/8 12:16 - 4,047 views
GNT's vid about cycling workout published 12/4 ( sponsored by trainingpeaks btw ) right now - 12/8 12:19 - 13.610 views

GCN (GTN's "parent" channel) is even better in my opinion. They have an ex-world champion TT and ex-UK champion on staff who will give you great advice, but will also tell you "science doesn't know this" if, in fact, science doesn't know. Emma Pooley is great. Si is the better personality, but Emma is the best for knowledge.

Citizen of the world, former drunkard. Resident Traumatic Brain Injury advocate.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
Well the highest paid youtuber this year was a 7 yr old boy talking about toys.


I heard this startling fact via the CBC (radio) this week. Gob-smacked that the kid (and his family would assume) pulls in multiple $millions in revenue from YouTube vids.

Proves that content is king, but also that the internet is a bit out of control, and "quality" is in the eye of the beholder!


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Re: Triathlon Taren [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
 
GCN is awesome, informative, and often subtly hilarious.

Back when I first heard about TT, on ST of course .. this thread in fact, I checked it out too see what the fuss was about.

IMO (obv) guy is a 1st class tool, hawking bullshit with little to no credentials or qualifications. He knows just enough to be incredibly dangerous to himself and others. He also says some flat-out untruths that anyone with a brain can refute. I'd say lies but it appears to be he's convinced of their fact.

He's just a goofball with a camera and a platform and hopefully as he continues down this path of idiotic and unqualified advice people turn him off. They'd be well served to find an actual coach, buddy up with knowledgeable training partners, scour ST for lots of good content. This guy TT is going in so many directions how could a beginner possibly stay on course listening to this fool?

Sorry, I know that's harsh. But, don't pretend yourself an expert when it's so obviously just sponsor-knobbing.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
 
Richard Blaine wrote:
Si is the better personality, but Emma is the best for knowledge.

Agree. Dan Loyd is also great. I'm not a big fan of Oliver Bridgewood for some reason. He's pretty knowledgeable, but something about him just bothers me.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [trail] [ In reply to ]
 
trail wrote:
Richard Blaine wrote:
Si is the better personality, but Emma is the best for knowledge.


Agree. Dan Loyd is also great. I'm not a big fan of Oliver Bridgewood for some reason. He's pretty knowledgeable, but something about him just bothers me.

Too British probably. And I don't mean that in a bad way; he just has a very British demeanor and sense of humor.

Citizen of the world, former drunkard. Resident Traumatic Brain Injury advocate.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
 
Richard Blaine wrote:
Too British probably. And I don't mean that in a bad way; he just has a very British demeanor and sense of humor.

I was going to say too American! Though I'm pure American, I pretty much only watch BBC, and am a huge anglophile.

Just my hangup - he's probably a great guy.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
FaKaspar wrote:

Yeah, I kind of know that. when I realized it decide not to give my attention ( clicks/views ) anymore. I still think GTN is a good example of responsible content. A guy that was in the pro circuit and an Olympian ( even tho was not at triathlon ) is way better source of content.

As an example: morning shake vid published 12/3 right now - 12/8 12:16 - 4,047 views
GNT's vid about cycling workout published 12/4 ( sponsored by trainingpeaks btw ) right now - 12/8 12:19 - 13.610 views

Wonder what is the best strategy!

As my father once told me - If we had the Soccer ( Football ) World Cup every year nobody would care that much.

Again don't want to be called a hater. Constructive criticism is something people should embrace more nowadays.

GTN is a great content. Heather is a fantastic triathlete that just keeps getting faster. If she wants to, she could probably earn her pro license.

I know we've talked previously that volume is part of how you grow...GCN, GTN, GCN Tech all know this. They all have a main show and then three to four other pieces of well produced content for the other days of the week. The content is responsible and informative for both the beginner and the hardcore. Taren...it's just whatever the latest snake oil is it seems.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
 
Fleck wrote:
Well the highest paid youtuber this year was a 7 yr old boy talking about toys.


I heard this startling fact via the CBC (radio) this week. Gob-smacked that the kid (and his family would assume) pulls in multiple $millions in revenue from YouTube vids.

Proves that content is king, but also that the internet is a bit out of control, and "quality" is in the eye of the beholder!

Go watch one of his recent videos. Dare I say the quality is good both in video and in content.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [M~] [ In reply to ]
 
I'm also a fan of GCN, they seem to upping their production values a bit and delving into some more serious issues too. This one is quite good and I'm sure will speak to some ST'ers too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_2bybJWQFg

As for Taren he sounds very sincere and I sometimes click on his videos but the expertise level just isn't there and I look elsewhere for content.

"They know f_ck-all over at Slowtwitch"
- Lionel Sanders
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [M~] [ In reply to ]
 
To echo this...Production values for Ryan's Toy Reviews are off the chain, but I'm sure he can afford it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zIhZhg9Glc

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
give it a year and my 11 year old will be able to swim 100 Breast as fast as Taren can swim 100 free... His 100 free is already faster and he is no where near the fastest kid his age on his team at the moment.

https://www.instagram.com/...;igshid=rx5gotbl9098

this next one just blows my mind... 9 years old when this was swam ...

https://www.instagram.com/...igshid=14sd0o9ckzakx

Still wondering why he was DQd in a 400 and 1500 in his one and only masters meet

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Last edited by: realAB: Dec 8, 18 20:34
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
Comparing GTN to Taren is dumb - GTN has the benefit of being under GCN, and I'd wager a bet they get favorable treatment from Youtube algorithms. Futhermore, the reason people like Taren is he's not an ex-pro athlete. Newbie athletes like being able to relate to the people, heck even other people too. And I like GTN perfectly well but trying to draw lines makes no sense. They both talk about triathlon. That's about where the similarities end
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
The amount of space that Taren takes up in your head is roughly the size of Texas
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [realAB] [ In reply to ]
 
realAB wrote:
Still wondering why he was DQd in a 400 and 1500 in his one and only masters meet

You should stop and move on with your life
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [M~] [ In reply to ]
 
Go watch one of his recent videos. Dare I say the quality is good both in video and in content.

Thanks, Mark - I'll have a look.

I always find it fascinating how something like this can become such a massive phenomenon, and is still somewhat "underground" - but I'm not a parent of a young toddler/kid anymore, so it's not info/content that I'm actively seeking out either!


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Re: Triathlon Taren [Bosox99104] [ In reply to ]
 
Bosox99104 wrote:
realAB wrote:
Still wondering why he was DQd in a 400 and 1500 in his one and only masters meet

You should stop and move on with your life

Do we no what race it was
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Bosox99104] [ In reply to ]
 
Bosox99104 wrote:
realAB wrote:
Still wondering why he was DQd in a 400 and 1500 in his one and only masters meet

You should stop and move on with your life

Not too many things will get you dq'd from a freestyle event. False starts? (which is dumb in a 400 or 1500, jumping the gun doesn't really help you). Non-regulation swimwear (was he wearing floaty pants?)

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
Have you watched his video were he is breaking down Lionel's swim....Is he really the person to be doing this???? Is this what people trust on utube?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Fishbum] [ In reply to ]
 
Fishbum wrote:
Have you watched his video were he is breaking down Lionel's swim....Is he really the person to be doing this???? Is this what people trust on utube?

Yeah, I saw that.

I'm prefacing this by saying that overall, I like Taren's channel, even if I don't care about all of the content he generates. I'll pick and choose what I want to watch (anything that has to do with "here's the morning shake you should drink" or the like I'll skip past, but a lot of his content I do like. I enjoyed his stuff from 70.3 worlds, for example.

That said, he is really not the guy to be giving swim analysis. He knows some, but unfortunately he knows enough to be dangerous. He doesn't know what he doesn't know.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
Not too many things will get you dq'd from a freestyle event. False starts? (which is dumb in a 400 or 1500, jumping the gun doesn't really help you). Non-regulation swimwear (was he wearing floaty pants?)


or wearing floaties in general ;)
Last edited by: casper3043: Dec 10, 18 7:40
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
Fishbum wrote:
Have you watched his video were he is breaking down Lionel's swim....Is he really the person to be doing this???? Is this what people trust on utube?


Yeah, I saw that.

I'm prefacing this by saying that overall, I like Taren's channel, even if I don't care about all of the content he generates. I'll pick and choose what I want to watch (anything that has to do with "here's the morning shake you should drink" or the like I'll skip past, but a lot of his content I do like. I enjoyed his stuff from 70.3 worlds, for example.

That said, he is really not the guy to be giving swim analysis. He knows some, but unfortunately he knows enough to be dangerous. He doesn't know what he doesn't know.

And that in a nutshell is coaching in this sport.

As for the content he definitely doesn't aim to please everyone in every single video. But he goes with Casey Niestats model of producing something every single day. Not easy task to do 365 days a year, so he will definitely "fetch" some topics much to many of our dismay.

I go back and forth on him a lot. But with a sport that isn't really growing and doesn't really have any exposure, having triathlete that produces video content every single day is an opportunity to get more involved, grow the sport, etc.

I think it comes up to the viewer to use discretion on what to take and pass on. Unfortunately, Taren does not do a great job (IMO) of positioning himself as who he is. He should be blunt that he is NOT a coach or has experience coaching athletes 1-1 face-to-face.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [907Tri] [ In reply to ]
 
907Tri wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
Fishbum wrote:
Have you watched his video were he is breaking down Lionel's swim....Is he really the person to be doing this???? Is this what people trust on utube?


Yeah, I saw that.

I'm prefacing this by saying that overall, I like Taren's channel, even if I don't care about all of the content he generates. I'll pick and choose what I want to watch (anything that has to do with "here's the morning shake you should drink" or the like I'll skip past, but a lot of his content I do like. I enjoyed his stuff from 70.3 worlds, for example.

That said, he is really not the guy to be giving swim analysis. He knows some, but unfortunately he knows enough to be dangerous. He doesn't know what he doesn't know.

And that in a nutshell is coaching in this sport.

As for the content he definitely doesn't aim to please everyone in every single video. But he goes with Casey Niestats model of producing something every single day. Not easy task to do 365 days a year, so he will definitely "fetch" some topics much to many of our dismay.

I go back and forth on him a lot. But with a sport that isn't really growing and doesn't really have any exposure, having triathlete that produces video content every single day is an opportunity to get more involved, grow the sport, etc.

I think it comes up to the viewer to use discretion on what to take and pass on. Unfortunately, Taren does not do a great job (IMO) of positioning himself as who he is. He should be blunt that he is NOT a coach or has experience coaching athletes 1-1 face-to-face.

I'm well aware that I'm sitting on the sidelines in the peanut gallery here, but I think what would be ideal for him is to position himself as Mr AG Triathlete. Instead of trying to do all of these fancy things, with all the fancy gear, instead do something that highlights the challenges that we all face just trying to fit in a day of training. Between kids, family, social and work commitments it gets very tough for a lot of us.I haven't trained in nearly 2 weeks because of illness and activities. Now it's well into the eating... err... Holiday season, and I have no idea how i'm going to avoid that second and third plate of turkey with stuffing and gravy. He could have something really fun with all of that.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
....but I think what would be ideal for him is to position himself as Mr AG Triathlete.

I agree, but let's be honest, there's more money in his Trainiac Platform, and his training camps.

But yea, I usually like the videos where he talks about HIM, how he approaches his training and his daily life. I do not care for his nutrition advice, nor do I care for him trying to break down Pro athlete's swim stroke. And now he's partnering with Lucy Charles, Cam Wurf, and other pros to bring even more coaching advice.

IMO, if he really wants to pursue this coaching thing, he should go out and start getting some real coaching certifications, instead of the Ironman U crap he decided to get.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
 
Fleck wrote:
Go watch one of his recent videos. Dare I say the quality is good both in video and in content.

Thanks, Mark - I'll have a look.

I always find it fascinating how something like this can become such a massive phenomenon, and is still somewhat "underground" - but I'm not a parent of a young toddler/kid anymore, so it's not info/content that I'm actively seeking out either!

Steve, I have 3 kids: 10,8,6 and of course, they like their YouTube. I had never heard of this kid either! Lol. I asked my kids, and my one boy was like, oh ya, I watched him once. But he never got hooked onto it I guess lol.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
907Tri wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
Fishbum wrote:
Have you watched his video were he is breaking down Lionel's swim....Is he really the person to be doing this???? Is this what people trust on utube?


Yeah, I saw that.

I'm prefacing this by saying that overall, I like Taren's channel, even if I don't care about all of the content he generates. I'll pick and choose what I want to watch (anything that has to do with "here's the morning shake you should drink" or the like I'll skip past, but a lot of his content I do like. I enjoyed his stuff from 70.3 worlds, for example.

That said, he is really not the guy to be giving swim analysis. He knows some, but unfortunately he knows enough to be dangerous. He doesn't know what he doesn't know.


And that in a nutshell is coaching in this sport.

As for the content he definitely doesn't aim to please everyone in every single video. But he goes with Casey Niestats model of producing something every single day. Not easy task to do 365 days a year, so he will definitely "fetch" some topics much to many of our dismay.

I go back and forth on him a lot. But with a sport that isn't really growing and doesn't really have any exposure, having triathlete that produces video content every single day is an opportunity to get more involved, grow the sport, etc.

I think it comes up to the viewer to use discretion on what to take and pass on. Unfortunately, Taren does not do a great job (IMO) of positioning himself as who he is. He should be blunt that he is NOT a coach or has experience coaching athletes 1-1 face-to-face.


I'm well aware that I'm sitting on the sidelines in the peanut gallery here, but I think what would be ideal for him is to position himself as Mr AG Triathlete. Instead of trying to do all of these fancy things, with all the fancy gear, instead do something that highlights the challenges that we all face just trying to fit in a day of training. Between kids, family, social and work commitments it gets very tough for a lot of us.I haven't trained in nearly 2 weeks because of illness and activities. Now it's well into the eating... err... Holiday season, and I have no idea how i'm going to avoid that second and third plate of turkey with stuffing and gravy. He could have something really fun with all of that.

I think that's who he was originally. I watched him when I first got into the sport for this. But I now I see a guy with all high end gear, a wife who enables him to train a ton, no kids, a garage training cave, ability to go to high end training camps and its fine just not relatable for me as an "average AGer"
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
TulkasTri wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
....but I think what would be ideal for him is to position himself as Mr AG Triathlete.


I agree, but let's be honest, there's more money in his Trainiac Platform, and his training camps.

But yea, I usually like the videos where he talks about HIM, how he approaches his training and his daily life. I do not care for his nutrition advice, nor do I care for him trying to break down Pro athlete's swim stroke. And now he's partnering with Lucy Charles, Cam Wurf, and other pros to bring even more coaching advice.

IMO, if he really wants to pursue this coaching thing, he should go out and start getting some real coaching certifications, instead of the Ironman U crap he decided to get.
What certification would make you comfortable trusting him to critique your swimming mechanics? Honest question, because it's probably the opinion of a majority of the swimmers on this forum that TT is never going to have the eye or experience to legitimately break down stroke mechanics. Setting up a training plan is not the only facet of coaching swimming. I've known a few tri coaches that will tell their athletes that other than setting time in the water and benchmark performances for goals, don't expect intense drill work and a stroke rebuild. Hey, at least they're honest. TT breaking down pros' swimming is like an amateur deciding what's wrong with Tiger's golf swing because they shot 78 last month. (many of them will and they sound like idiots).
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [DimaP] [ In reply to ]
 
DimaP wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
907Tri wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
Fishbum wrote:
Have you watched his video were he is breaking down Lionel's swim....Is he really the person to be doing this???? Is this what people trust on utube?


Yeah, I saw that.

I'm prefacing this by saying that overall, I like Taren's channel, even if I don't care about all of the content he generates. I'll pick and choose what I want to watch (anything that has to do with "here's the morning shake you should drink" or the like I'll skip past, but a lot of his content I do like. I enjoyed his stuff from 70.3 worlds, for example.

That said, he is really not the guy to be giving swim analysis. He knows some, but unfortunately he knows enough to be dangerous. He doesn't know what he doesn't know.


And that in a nutshell is coaching in this sport.

As for the content he definitely doesn't aim to please everyone in every single video. But he goes with Casey Niestats model of producing something every single day. Not easy task to do 365 days a year, so he will definitely "fetch" some topics much to many of our dismay.

I go back and forth on him a lot. But with a sport that isn't really growing and doesn't really have any exposure, having triathlete that produces video content every single day is an opportunity to get more involved, grow the sport, etc.

I think it comes up to the viewer to use discretion on what to take and pass on. Unfortunately, Taren does not do a great job (IMO) of positioning himself as who he is. He should be blunt that he is NOT a coach or has experience coaching athletes 1-1 face-to-face.


I'm well aware that I'm sitting on the sidelines in the peanut gallery here, but I think what would be ideal for him is to position himself as Mr AG Triathlete. Instead of trying to do all of these fancy things, with all the fancy gear, instead do something that highlights the challenges that we all face just trying to fit in a day of training. Between kids, family, social and work commitments it gets very tough for a lot of us.I haven't trained in nearly 2 weeks because of illness and activities. Now it's well into the eating... err... Holiday season, and I have no idea how i'm going to avoid that second and third plate of turkey with stuffing and gravy. He could have something really fun with all of that.

I think that's who he was originally. I watched him when I first got into the sport for this. But I now I see a guy with all high end gear, a wife who enables him to train a ton, no kids, a garage training cave, ability to go to high end training camps and its fine just not relatable for me as an "average AGer"

Maybe I should start a youtube channel devoted to the AG triathlete. It would suck balls though, a lot of lying on the couch cuz I'm too tired to do anything else...

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
My kids would probably watch that (based on the fact that they watch other people play video games on youtube. smh)
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Fishbum] [ In reply to ]
 
MEET RESULTS
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MANITOBA - MAR 22, 2014

The part that I am stuck on is DQ results in swimming are normally not given a time at all.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 


Seeing a time/splits given alongside a DQ is the weirdest thing.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [realAB] [ In reply to ]
 
Yeah, that is odd.

i wonder if it's becasue of whatever meet management software they were using...

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Re: Triathlon Taren [DimaP] [ In reply to ]
 
I'm just really confused when people get mad because he's become slightly less of an "average AGer," because basically what they're saying is they want him to be successful, but only to a certain point. Why is it bad that he's gotten free stuff in exchange for hours of work?

I'm willing to bet if we did the math on what he's making/free stuff versus hours he's working, he's very much "average" it just so happens that his job is to train and not be a pro

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Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
TulkasTri wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
....but I think what would be ideal for him is to position himself as Mr AG Triathlete.


I agree, but let's be honest, there's more money in his Trainiac Platform, and his training camps.

But yea, I usually like the videos where he talks about HIM, how he approaches his training and his daily life. I do not care for his nutrition advice, nor do I care for him trying to break down Pro athlete's swim stroke. And now he's partnering with Lucy Charles, Cam Wurf, and other pros to bring even more coaching advice.

IMO, if he really wants to pursue this coaching thing, he should go out and start getting some real coaching certifications, instead of the Ironman U crap he decided to get.

I think the only way for him to keep being Triathlon Taren is if the platform and training camps succeed. Realistically, what other revenue streams exist for that business? Talbot has contracts with pros for their content, some random Youtube ad money, and partnerships with brands. In a niche sport, none of those are enough to sustain a real business. One person on his own, yeah probably.

I'm with you in that I think his best videos are the ones just talking about his training - but uploading 365 that's just not sustainable
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Bosox99104] [ In reply to ]
 
There's likely *some* money to be made at the whole coaching game. But you'd be surprised at how easy it is to fail at that, too.

To be honest, he could probably put together a subscription model for being Mr AG Triathlete and the content, pick up a couple of brand partnerships, and have enough money to live off of. He's got enough background in the media space to be able to make it work. But I think he wants to flip that on its head a bit.

Anyways. He's a good guy. Just needs to figure out what exactly he wants to build in the triathlon sandbox.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [ChasingPB] [ In reply to ]
 
ChasingPB wrote:
I'm just really confused when people get mad because he's become slightly less of an "average AGer," because basically what they're saying is they want him to be successful, but only to a certain point. Why is it bad that he's gotten free stuff in exchange for hours of work?

I'm willing to bet if we did the math on what he's making/free stuff versus hours he's working, he's very much "average" it just so happens that his job is to train and not be a pro

Im not mad, I just don't find it as relatable. And also it doesn't have to do with how he "ranks." If he won a 70.3 a year ago I wouldn't have liked the channel any less actually more. But him doing better as an AGer by having al the tools, toys and time to get there doesn't inspire or motivate or entertain me. And being relatable doesn't have to be a prerequisite for watching for everyone, I just don't enjoy it as much. I also have an issue with his authenticity and aspects of his ego but that's very subjective of course.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Bosox99104] [ In reply to ]
 
Bosox99104 wrote:
TulkasTri wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
....but I think what would be ideal for him is to position himself as Mr AG Triathlete.


I agree, but let's be honest, there's more money in his Trainiac Platform, and his training camps.

But yea, I usually like the videos where he talks about HIM, how he approaches his training and his daily life. I do not care for his nutrition advice, nor do I care for him trying to break down Pro athlete's swim stroke. And now he's partnering with Lucy Charles, Cam Wurf, and other pros to bring even more coaching advice.

IMO, if he really wants to pursue this coaching thing, he should go out and start getting some real coaching certifications, instead of the Ironman U crap he decided to get.


I think the only way for him to keep being Triathlon Taren is if the platform and training camps succeed. Realistically, what other revenue streams exist for that business? Talbot has contracts with pros for their content, some random Youtube ad money, and partnerships with brands. In a niche sport, none of those are enough to sustain a real business. One person on his own, yeah probably.

I'm with you in that I think his best videos are the ones just talking about his training - but uploading 365 that's just not sustainable

Uploading 365days/yr is literally what most of the gamers who make money off twitch.com do, or come close to doing. That's the cost of doing business in the low-cost video blog business.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [ChasingPB] [ In reply to ]
 
I'm not mad about him getting free stuff. That's what being an influencer is about. I'm just really annoyed that he spews bullshit out of his mouth every day: here take this spirulina...here this clear MCT oil (which has 130 KCals) won't take you out of a fast...don't take any whey protein because it will spike your blood sugar (dude just finished a two hour ride, take the whey idiot). My issue is I started following him when I was a beginner, he put out good information and hustled. Most people have problems with him because he stopped the work grind that the rest of us struggle with. Hey, if NTK is good with him not working (he said he had to chop their savings or someish, whined about how he made a mistake and Mel may loose her job). What he needed to do was to get his Social Media business to the point where it was autonomous and not shut it down. Don't sob to me about Mel to draw in support due to your flub up, make it straight with her so she has a runway to find a new gig.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Bosox99104] [ In reply to ]
 
Bosox99104 wrote:
I think the only way for him to keep being Triathlon Taren is if the platform and training camps succeed. Realistically, what other revenue streams exist for that business?

The interview's that are only on the podcast should be on YouTube too. That combined with a few reviews & it's similar to a ginger runner model.

However the platform is a tricky situation to reverse out of & there's no way you can do the above whilst trying to be a one man TrainerRoad, TrainingPeaks etc..
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
I'm not mad about him getting free stuff. That's what being an influencer is about. I'm just really annoyed that he spews bullshit out of his mouth every day: here take this spirulina...here this clear MCT oil (which has 130 KCals) won't take you out of a fast...don't take any whey protein because it will spike your blood sugar (dude just finished a two hour ride, take the whey idiot). My issue is I started following him when I was a beginner, he put out good information and hustled. Most people have problems with him because he stopped the work grind that the rest of us struggle with. Hey, if NTK is good with him not working (he said he had to chop their savings or someish, whined about how he made a mistake and Mel may loose her job). What he needed to do was to get his Social Media business to the point where it was autonomous and not shut it down. Don't sob to me about Mel to draw in support due to your flub up, make it straight with her so she has a runway to find a new gig.

On the fact you don't like his nutrition... don't watch it. Really simple. I don't either

Re: bold portion It is not his fault he managed to make it where he can include training as a part of his job. That said, I'm willing to bet that he is still working over 40 hours a week without training. So still... very much a work grind.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [ChasingPB] [ In reply to ]
 
ChasingPB wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:
I'm not mad about him getting free stuff. That's what being an influencer is about. I'm just really annoyed that he spews bullshit out of his mouth every day: here take this spirulina...here this clear MCT oil (which has 130 KCals) won't take you out of a fast...don't take any whey protein because it will spike your blood sugar (dude just finished a two hour ride, take the whey idiot). My issue is I started following him when I was a beginner, he put out good information and hustled. Most people have problems with him because he stopped the work grind that the rest of us struggle with. Hey, if NTK is good with him not working (he said he had to chop their savings or someish, whined about how he made a mistake and Mel may loose her job). What he needed to do was to get his Social Media business to the point where it was autonomous and not shut it down. Don't sob to me about Mel to draw in support due to your flub up, make it straight with her so she has a runway to find a new gig.


On the fact you don't like his nutrition... don't watch it. Really simple. I don't either

Re: bold portion It is not his fault he managed to make it where he can include training as a part of his job. That said, I'm willing to bet that he is still working over 40 hours a week without training. So still... very much a work grind.

Hmmm maybe. When I alluded to his "ego" issues I watched enough early on to get the idea that like TheStroBro said, he's burnt through a lot of their savings for things like his "pain cave" and seems like NTK runs the whole house (cooking, cleaning, yard work) and he strikes me as a bit of a spoiled kid. And the way he's posted videos "addressing" negative feedback/comments, none of it a crime and if shes ok with it, he gets to "live the dream" just turned me off and I stropped watching a while ago.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
Amazing thanks for sharing!
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [cschroeder1994] [ In reply to ]
 
Wow, there's a lot of negativity on ST. As a millennial who didn't have TV or internet for the first three years of our marriage, my wife and I watched a lot of youtube videos. I like videos that are well put together and touch on subjects I'm interested in, or are just simply entertaining. A lot of Triathlon Taren's videos fit into this category. Some of his videos I'll never watch. Some of them I've watched 3-4 times, like "a day in the life of a triathlete" which I and my wife find hilarious. I've also been to Winnipeg several times and live relatively close by so that makes him more relatable for me.

I watch Shane, Dcrainmaker, TT, the Vegan Cyclist, and some GTN and GCN videos, but actually my favorite channel is seth's bike hacks. I've met the dude in person so I feel like I understand the YT game. Why not try and make a living off what you're passionate about? If you like educating people, great. If you're not an expert, use caveats that you're not. I think Taren uses caveats all the time, but maybe not in every single video, so I take everything he says with a grain of salt.

If people asked me to do a video on nutrition and I had a triathlon related channel and some knowledge on nutrition, I'd do videos on nutrition with the caveat that I'm not a nutritionist.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [stevendex] [ In reply to ]
 
We get asked, as a coach, all the time to comment on people's nutrition. We have some knowledge, but we know we're not experts. So we refer people to experts.

This is the same thing Taren *could* do, but chooses not to. And I think he'd be better served by having someone else on to explain certain things versus attempting to showcase expertise he doesn't have.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
Surprised no one has commented on Taren's video from yesterday critiquing Training Peaks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A54crxKp-1c


I think his critique of TP (aside from lack of TSS for strength training, which I believe it does have if you use a HR monitor) has some merit. Training Peaks could very well become the next Computrainer ... but not sure if the Traniac Training Platform is the thing that'll replace them.

Either way, never seen so much commotion and such a drastic "thumbs down" ratio on a video. I'm a fan of Taren and overall think he's good for the sport, but he does go the way of Ben Greenfield with recommending some whacky nutrition tips and ideas occasionally.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
 
BT_DreamChaser wrote:
Surprised no one has commented on Taren's video from yesterday critiquing Training Peaks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A54crxKp-1c


I think his critique of TP (aside from lack of TSS for strength training, which I believe it does have if you use a HR monitor) has some merit. Training Peaks could very well become the next Computrainer ... but not sure if the Traniac Training Platform is the thing that'll replace them.

Either way, never seen so much commotion and such a drastic "thumbs down" ratio on a video. I'm a fan of Taren and overall think he's good for the sport, but he does go the way of Ben Greenfield with recommending some whacky nutrition tips and ideas occasionally.

I saw it and thought it was interesting. However, I'm not a TP user (I have the fairly useless free account, but never used the subscription version), so I don't know much about the nuances of TP and how to work around the limitations of the software.

I "think" that his criticism of swim TSS was a little off though. How I've always put in my swim numbers is to just estimate "moving time" and use that. So a leisurely swim at a low percentage of threshold pace will be much lower than an intense interval session. Even then, my method isn't great since 2 interval workouts can be substantially different in impact, even though they'll have similar moving times.

e.g, 20x50 on 60 holding :35's is substantially easier than the same session, alternating easy (40s) and very fast (30s)

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Re: Triathlon Taren [lightheir] [ In reply to ]
 
lightheir wrote:
Uploading 365days/yr is literally what most of the gamers who make money off twitch.com do, or come close to doing. That's the cost of doing business in the low-cost video blog business.

$22 millions a year for this 7 year old YouTuber!

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Re: Triathlon Taren [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
 
Guy building platform criticizes those that are already in market...it doesn't seem much more complicated than that.

TSS is but one metric that you can utilize from them, and you can tweak how it gets calculated for each workout if you really want to dive into the weeds and build out the zones, workouts in workout builder, etc.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
 
BT_DreamChaser wrote:
Surprised no one has commented on Taren's video from yesterday critiquing Training Peaks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A54crxKp-1c


I think his critique of TP (aside from lack of TSS for strength training, which I believe it does have if you use a HR monitor) has some merit. Training Peaks could very well become the next Computrainer ... but not sure if the Traniac Training Platform is the thing that'll replace them.

Either way, never seen so much commotion and such a drastic "thumbs down" ratio on a video. I'm a fan of Taren and overall think he's good for the sport, but he does go the way of Ben Greenfield with recommending some whacky nutrition tips and ideas occasionally.

A fe things: I unsubscribed from his channel, I click not interested every time it's in my feed, I turned off autoplay so that his videos don't play if they've somehow ended up in a youtube match playlist when I'm GTN, Lionel, or a Gwen video.

There are a lot of other training platforms out there that are going to be significantly better than his and remain so...and none of those people crowdfunded and then craiglisted a programmer...and then made a sob story video...an overall decision that somehow seemingly put his employee's position at risk because he decided to get out of social media content creation rather than make it autonomous with more employees.

So he has a platform he's going to launch...there's two ways to go about this...just talk about the cool things yours does and don't say negative things about the competition or attack the big dog on the market because everyone does...so he attacked the competition.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
Ok that's it I'm out. His latest vid he is shilling for ventum and is spouting the 17 min faster at Kona crap. The bike isn't 17mins faster, the people riding it are.


Unsubscribed.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
dunno wrote:
Ok that's it I'm out. His latest vid he is shilling for ventum and is spouting the 17 min faster at Kona crap. The bike isn't 17mins faster, the people riding it are.


Unsubscribed.

I won't buy a Ventum until it comes with a dedicated spirulina-only bento box.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [SteveM] [ In reply to ]
 
Interesting enough GTN made a vlog yesterday about training - sponsored by Training Peaks - that was very interesting.

They kind of explain how you can set up your season and your training. Mostly using the Training Peaks platform.

At one point they mention - you don't have to use training peaks for that - and that vlog was sponsored by training peaks!!!

I wonder if that have anything to do w/ Triathlon Taren kind of bad mouthing training peaks a week ago. But I loved the approach of telling how you can do it, basic concepts and not criticizing any other platforms. All that done by a former ITU professional, coach and w/ the right credentials to do so.

It was done in a very professional way and a classic English matter! Awesome.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
Two Former Pros!

Mark is retired from the ITU, Fraser raced in the ITU but just retired from long course racing.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
Agreed. If you need to tear something down to build something up, you're doing it wrong.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [Brandes] [ In reply to ]
 
So is he making a new platform to challenge Training Peaks?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
TulkasTri wrote:
So is he making a new platform to challenge Training Peaks?

Not according to his video on the new Trainiac platform, Taren says that it isn't intended to challenge trainingpeaks. What it actually does, I have no idea, but it's not supposed to replace TP.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
TulkasTri wrote:
So is he making a new platform to challenge Training Peaks?


Not according to his video on the new Trainiac platform, Taren says that it isn't intended to challenge trainingpeaks. What it actually does, I have no idea, but it's not supposed to replace TP.

Yeah, it's pretty unclear what he is planning on doing. He is hosting some kind of online training camp right now, plus he's coming out with the masterclasses some time early 2019, and on top of that we have the Team Trainiac platform. To be honest I got the impression he wants to use his platform for everything; workout planning, and fitness tracking. To me that sounds basically like a TP competitor.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
TulkasTri wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
TulkasTri wrote:
So is he making a new platform to challenge Training Peaks?


Not according to his video on the new Trainiac platform, Taren says that it isn't intended to challenge trainingpeaks. What it actually does, I have no idea, but it's not supposed to replace TP.

Yeah, it's pretty unclear what he is planning on doing. He is hosting some kind of online training camp right now, plus he's coming out with the masterclasses some time early 2019, and on top of that we have the Team Trainiac platform. To be honest I got the impression he wants to use his platform for everything; workout planning, and fitness tracking. To me that sounds basically like a TP competitor.

Sounds like it to me too, but he's said that it isn't, so there may be some significant differences. But really, the most likely challenger to TrainingPeaks in the short-mid term will be TrainerRoad and/or if Zwift comes out with something similar. TrainerRoad not because it does everything that TP does (it doesn't and probably never will) but it does do the most important bits for those of us who just want basic analysis and tracking, don't need to share online with a coach, etc...

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Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
TulkasTri wrote:


Yeah, it's pretty unclear what he is planning on doing. He is hosting some kind of online training camp right now, plus he's coming out with the masterclasses some time early 2019, and on top of that we have the Team Trainiac platform. To be honest I got the impression he wants to use his platform for everything; workout planning, and fitness tracking. To me that sounds basically like a TP competitor.


To me it sounded like he is building a Training Peaks Competitor...the difference here is he wants to make it social? Have recovery included? There are numerous metrics for recovery that you can input into training peaks. The Mighty Stat from Masimo Personal Health integrates with Training Peaks. Hell...Garmin tells you how many hours you need to recover, it tells you when you're training too much etc.

Interestingly, Leanda Cave is coming out with a Training Platform that is pretty advanced.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
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Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
I just watched (well, listened to) his video where he "reviews" Tower26.

He really needs to NOT do that.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
I just watched (well, listened to) his video where he "reviews" Tower26.

He really needs to NOT do that.

If I had a dollar for every time he has said Gerry Rodriguez from Tower 26' in his vlogs I'd be a rich man.

He claims he isn't getting paid to spruik Tower 26 but you can bet your bottom dollar there is some arrangement-my call is Taren gets to use Gerrys routines in exchange for the constant mention in his vids. Licencing if you will....
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [stevendex] [ In reply to ]
 
stevendex wrote:
didn't have TV or internet ...watched a lot of youtube videos..

So. Freaking. Brilliant.
Millennials for the win
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [spookini] [ In reply to ]
 
spookini wrote:
stevendex wrote:
didn't have TV or internet ...watched a lot of youtube videos..

So. Freaking. Brilliant.
Millennials for the win

I don't get it? Are u laughing at him saying no internet but was able to watch YouTube?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
I wonder how many others, like me, just get on with our training and watch no Triathlon content online, and don't read Tri magazines? The most I do nowadays is post occasionally on ST, and look for interesting advice/experiences here and on another UK Forum. I prefer the feel of community where people are relatively 'anonymous' and the propensity for self promotion is less. I can't put my finger on why I'm so 'unengaged'; whether it's a generational thing (I'm 45) and whether after 26 years of Tri I'm just needing other 'entertainment' aside from actually doing the sport...I'm a doer rather than a watcher. I'd rather watch videos on car reviews or dudes reviewing survival gear these days!

29 years and counting
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Jorgan] [ In reply to ]
 
Jorgan wrote:
I wonder how many others, like me, just get on with our training and watch no Triathlon content online, and don't read Tri magazines? The most I do nowadays is post occasionally on ST, and look for interesting advice/experiences here and on another UK Forum. I prefer the feel of community where people are relatively 'anonymous' and the propensity for self promotion is less. I can't put my finger on why I'm so 'unengaged'; whether it's a generational thing (I'm 45) and whether after 26 years of Tri I'm just needing other 'entertainment' aside from actually doing the sport...I'm a doer rather than a watcher. I'd rather watch videos on car reviews or dudes reviewing survival gear these days!

Alot of people are like you, not me im the totally opposite, wasting my time on ST/triathlete.com/GCN/Taren etc, mostly at work/commute though ;-)
But if i went to the start line of a 70.3 i bet half the people could not name the last 2 WC of the 70.3 races.
Triathlon is so much more about an experience for you that it is rooting for a team like in football.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [spookini] [ In reply to ]
 
spookini wrote:
stevendex wrote:
didn't have TV or internet ...watched a lot of youtube videos..


So. Freaking. Brilliant.
Millennials for the win

Yep. No internet or TV at home. I watched YT videos at the library down the street from our apartment and at school.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [stevendex] [ In reply to ]
 
Man, how things have changed since I went to school. Back then, most ppl hanging out in the library were just there to masturbate...
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
Uhh if he is getting paid/free stuff that would go against the like 500 times he tells you he pays for the platform

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
I just watched (well, listened to) his video where he "reviews" Tower26.

He really needs to NOT do that.

Agreed, but this was less of a review and more like an infomercial. He got Gerry's permission to do this video, no doubt.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [Jorgan] [ In reply to ]
 
Jorgan wrote:
I wonder how many others, like me, just get on with our training and watch no Triathlon content online, and don't read Tri magazines? The most I do nowadays is post occasionally on ST, and look for interesting advice/experiences here and on another UK Forum. I prefer the feel of community where people are relatively 'anonymous' and the propensity for self promotion is less. I can't put my finger on why I'm so 'unengaged'; whether it's a generational thing (I'm 45) and whether after 26 years of Tri I'm just needing other 'entertainment' aside from actually doing the sport...I'm a doer rather than a watcher. I'd rather watch videos on car reviews or dudes reviewing survival gear these days!

I totally understand where you're coming from re: just getting on with your training, but a lot of people are different. Let me reframe it: You're here, talking about training. Now of course, absolutely, there is a lot you can learn and a lot you can share. YouTube is really same. Now sure, the audiences aren't quite the same, and people learn and prefer content differently. Heck, most of what we talk about here could be had out of books that came out most of a decade ago. Point at all isn't to say one is better than the other, but some people just like watching videos. For me, I started making videos for twofold reasons: One, I really, really love talking to beginners and sharing my perspctive. I'm not nearly as advanced as probably the majority of people here, but in some ways, I view that as a positive. I distinctly remember how shit I was at a lot of things, and what I did to get through that. I found myself in forums giving the same advice over and over and over. Making a video one time locks the knowledge down and helps far more people than I ever could one on one. Secondly, it helps break up the training. I like design, marketing, branding, video, and photography, as well as training. These are things I'd be doing anyway, so this additional challenge of content creation during training actually gives me more to enjoy.

Speaking of survival stuff, check out Haze Outdoors on Youtube. Probably not for everyone, but I think the dude is exactly the kind of guy you just want a beer or 5 with. He's got an IM calf tattoo too.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [Jorgan] [ In reply to ]
 
Jorgan wrote:
I wonder how many others, like me, just get on with our training and watch no Triathlon content online, and don't read Tri magazines? The most I do nowadays is post occasionally on ST, and look for interesting advice/experiences here and on another UK Forum. I prefer the feel of community where people are relatively 'anonymous' and the propensity for self promotion is less. I can't put my finger on why I'm so 'unengaged'; whether it's a generational thing (I'm 45) and whether after 26 years of Tri I'm just needing other 'entertainment' aside from actually doing the sport...I'm a doer rather than a watcher. I'd rather watch videos on car reviews or dudes reviewing survival gear these days!

I think you've hit "peak triathlon" where there's really not that much else to learn by watching channels or talking with people. Even the new gear or new training methods is pretty much recycled stuff we've all seen before if you've been around long enough. I've been competitively swimming, biking, and running in various forms since 1982 and it takes something pretty amazing to catch my interest.

But people new to the sport eat this shit up like nobody's business. And I get it - the gear and what we can do with our endurance is mind blowingly cool.

I love triathlon as much as anybody can, but my favorite youtube channels are offroad 4x4 truck stuff, what happens when you drop things off of buildings, and science-y chemical reactions in slow motion. And my favorite podcasts are ones about the science of positive psychology and the art of productivity. Now if a new tri bike shows up in my feed, hell yeah that's first on my list. But that's not nearly as cool to watch as what happens when you put a bunch of mentos in a weighted coke bottle and drop it into the deep end of a pool.

Once you become experienced enough in something, it's not quite as interesting as when you're learning it. You've hit triathlon "mastery", or at least as much as you care to master it, and that's pretty typical from what I've seen.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
I just watched (well, listened to) his video where he "reviews" Tower26.

He really needs to NOT do that.
Tower 26? Ah yes, those are the swimmers that have no clue how to swim without their snorkels and fins, right?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Kentucky Mac] [ In reply to ]
 
Kentucky Mac wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
I just watched (well, listened to) his video where he "reviews" Tower26.

He really needs to NOT do that.
Tower 26? Ah yes, those are the swimmers that have no clue how to swim without their snorkels and fins, right?
Yeah those 3k+ main sets with no equipment must be a figment of my imagination.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Kentucky Mac] [ In reply to ]
 
Kentucky Mac wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
I just watched (well, listened to) his video where he "reviews" Tower26.

He really needs to NOT do that.
Tower 26? Ah yes, those are the swimmers that have no clue how to swim without their snorkels and fins, right?

I have no doubt that t26 is a good program. My comment was more about the review.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
He's telling people what they want to hear .. People love that .. beats actually training
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
Man, some people are sour in here..

I ignore the ads for products but I genuinely believe that he wouldn't do any of it if he wasn't enjoying using the products. Also.. blame him for putting food on the table.

He's a nice guy with his heart in the right place. I enjoy his content, there are some good tips for beginners (especially in his older videos, new ones not so much) but I don't think he's ready for being a coach for a training platform. He should have gained some 1-on-1 coaching experience at least for a while before doing that. Some tips might be silly (like faking a 1h30m long run with a 60m long xc run. imo you were going too fast for a long run, that is not the goal) and I tend to just ignore it and that is fine.

All in all.. enjoyable, can recommend, go Taren!
Last edited by: cmart: Feb 3, 19 1:28
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [cmart] [ In reply to ]
 
In his video of 2019 goals, it was politely suggested in the comments that he lose 10-15lbs to optimize performance via a vegan diet. Taren responded by telling the person that if they’ve been following his channel they would know he’s been on a plant based diet for a few years. I thought the comment and response were entertaining. The guy asking was genuinely trying to be helpful and actually came across as one of his fanboys. It seemed the comment pissed off Taren and his passive aggressive response indicated it did. I guess he’s better at giving advice than taking it.
Last edited by: mwanner13: Feb 3, 19 4:01
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
 
mwanner13 wrote:
In his video of 2019 goals, it was politely suggested in the comments that he lose 10-15lbs to optimize performance via a vegan diet. Taren responded by telling the person that if they’ve been following his channel they would know he’s been on a plant based diet for a few years. I thought the comment and response were entertaining. The guy asking was genuinely trying to be helpful and actually came across as one of his fanboys. It seemed the comment pissed off Taren and his passive aggressive response indicated it did. I guess he’s better at giving advice than taking it.


Yeah, I noticed that sometimes. He's given himself (or his wife) a prohibition from reading comments he said recently because they stir him up. Seems at some points in the past it got to him where even constructive feedback was taken pretty negatively.

But... I do get it. I'd hate these 1 out of 100 comments too that is straight up hateful. Couldn't handle it any better I have to confess!

And.. I'd hate if people would talk about me here and dissect every word I said on yt, what I'm starting to do here. So, I eject this thread AND GO TAREN :)
Last edited by: cmart: Feb 3, 19 4:22
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
 
I honestly get that. Weight is a funny thing, he used to be a lot heavier than he is now. If Taren himself said that he needed to lose more weight, that’s one thing, but if someone else does, the default position is that it is perceived as an attack, regardless of how “politely†it’s said. I would react exactly the same way. “I†can talk about my weight. If someone else does I respond with a big old “fuck offâ€.

I’ll also say that his latest swim video was pretty good.

mwanner13 wrote:
In his video of 2019 goals, it was politely suggested in the comments that he lose 10-15lbs to optimize performance via a vegan diet. Taren responded by telling the person that if they’ve been following his channel they would know he’s been on a plant based diet for a few years. I thought the comment and response were entertaining. The guy asking was genuinely trying to be helpful and actually came across as one of his fanboys. It seemed the comment pissed off Taren and his passive aggressive response indicated it did. I guess he’s better at giving advice than taking it.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [cmart] [ In reply to ]
 
Sport on cmart. Hit the nail on the head. Cheers!
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I watch a lot of Taren's vids. In fact, admittedly, I think I've probably seen 95% of what he's posted in the past year just because they pop up when I leave youtube running either on the trainer, or just in the background.

In the past year or so he's gone from:

- age group triathlon vlogger sharing his daily training
- phase where he saw a lot of improvements so he dipped his toes in coaching with some training plan templates
- triathlon media content supplier (kona videos, podcasts, video interviews with pros)
- full on coach with the training website, master classes
- product reviewer

I don't think he's done any of these exceptionally well, but they have provided daily content, grown his name in the sport, and allowed him to do this full time. Plus, the dude went from an investment banker, to hanging out with the TDF winner.... I'd say he's doing okay. He just needs to find his niche and do it well, not try to do everything just okay. Will he solidify himself as a coach? a media outlet? product reviewer? I don't know, and I suspect he doesn't yet either... time will tell.

For now, I'll tune into his vids when I'm on the trainer, or cooking dinner. Some of them I like and might do some more research on my own, some of them I make fun of in my head, disregard, and move on with my day.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FastFor114.4] [ In reply to ]
 
FastFor114.4 wrote:
I He just needs to find his niche and do it well, not try to do everything just okay.
Isn’t that Triathlon in a nutshell right there?
If so, I would say he’s hitting the mark ;)
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TriSolo] [ In reply to ]
 
lol.. good point. While that may be age group triathlon in a nutshell, I wouldn't recommend that mentality to someone trying to build a business/brand.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FastFor114.4] [ In reply to ]
 
That is what I like about DCRainmaker, he sticks to specific part of product reviews. Same with GPlama.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Livio Livius] [ In reply to ]
 
Livio Livius wrote:
That is what I like about DCRainmaker, he sticks to specific part of product reviews. Same with GPlama.


The big problem with Tarren is he only seems to review items which he either has a sponsored relationship with, and or has been given the item for free-hence all of his credibility is shot.

If he really wants to become a reviewer he needs to put his money where his mouth is and buy the items to remain impartial. He comes across as the type of guy who would rave about Power Balance wristbands (remember those things...) if you gave him one for free..

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Balance-The-Original-Performance-Wristband/dp/B004XYPIVU/ref=pd_day0_c_121_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B004XYPIVU&pd_rd_r=3faf3be9-2ca7-11e9-91c7-79eddbe046cc&pd_rd_w=BPGky&pd_rd_wg=eOmyJ&pf_rd_p=fda7cfe5-3364-4578-ae5e-ac4ab3645932&pf_rd_r=RP0CD317S6N2CQZ1GGVB&refRID=RP0CD317S6N2CQZ1GGVB



"The sports bracelet has been scientifically tested to emit over 2000 cc's of negative ions per second" lol
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Livio Livius] [ In reply to ]
 
Exactly, I had DC Rainmaker on my mind when I was writing that post. Taren is trying to do product reviews like DCR, media like Talbot, news coverage like GCN/GTN, a coaching/training platform like training peaks, and training vlogs like _______(insert youtube vlogger here).

Again, I'm not saying he does any of this poorly. Some of it is better, some worse, but all of it is decent content. He just needs to find his jam and stick with it. If anyone is curious of my opinion: he should avoid coaching and product reviews, and stick to training vlogs, pro content: not race photography or media, but interviews, etc. He's had success with that, and no matter what level of triathlete you are, that stuff is entertaining.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Livio Livius] [ In reply to ]
 
Livio Livius wrote:
That is what I like about DCRainmaker, he sticks to specific part of product reviews. Same with GPlama.

I do a lot of other things too... most poorly as well. Have you seen me try to re-fit tubeless road tyres? fffufuuuuuuuu ;)

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Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I once commented on a Triathlon Taren video that he spends too much time doing awkward selfies and generally appearing to admire himself. He blocked me on youtube for that comment. True it was an unfriendly opinion from a know-nothing like me, but I thought it kind of amusing that he chose to block me. lol.

CG
Last edited by: CeeGee90: Feb 14, 19 14:20
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CeeGee90] [ In reply to ]
 
I was thinking about this on my way to work couple of days ago.

Maybe Taren and Cameron have a point.
A lot of professional fighters (UFC, Boxe ) usually train heavy, cut weight close to fight day.....do the official weighting - eat like there is no tomorrow and fight 2 nights later.

Maybe that's a good approach for triathlon.Who knows!

food for thought!
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
FaKaspar wrote:
I was thinking about this on my way to work couple of days ago.

Maybe Taren and Cameron have a point.
A lot of professional fighters (UFC, Boxe ) usually train heavy, cut weight close to fight day.....do the official weighting - eat like there is no tomorrow and fight 2 nights later.

Maybe that's a good approach for triathlon.Who knows!

food for thought!

Please tell me this sarcasm. Please.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FaKaspar] [ In reply to ]
 
Like how everyone carbs up before a big race...not new.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [RoostBooster] [ In reply to ]
 
RoostBooster wrote:
FaKaspar wrote:
I was thinking about this on my way to work couple of days ago.

Maybe Taren and Cameron have a point.
A lot of professional fighters (UFC, Boxe ) usually train heavy, cut weight close to fight day.....do the official weighting - eat like there is no tomorrow and fight 2 nights later.

Maybe that's a good approach for triathlon.Who knows!

food for thought!

Please tell me this sarcasm. Please.
Has to be. But i do wish there were weight categories...or maybe a royal rumble at the end. Lol
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CeeGee90] [ In reply to ]
 
Triathlon Taren is the new Ashley Horner

Not yet at same level, but on same path, and moving quickly
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [RoostBooster] [ In reply to ]
 
RoostBooster wrote:
FaKaspar wrote:
I was thinking about this on my way to work couple of days ago.

Maybe Taren and Cameron have a point.
A lot of professional fighters (UFC, Boxe ) usually train heavy, cut weight close to fight day.....do the official weighting - eat like there is no tomorrow and fight 2 nights later.

Maybe that's a good approach for triathlon.Who knows!

food for thought!


Please tell me this sarcasm. Please.

hahah...yes it is! ;-)
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Pyrenean Wolf] [ In reply to ]
 
He's gonna have to get this thread up to 3k before it can be official

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Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
Lol his latest video about flip turns is a joke. Dude doesn’t even know how to do them.

"The person on top of the mountain didn't fall there." - unkown

also rule 5
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [boobooaboo] [ In reply to ]
 
boobooaboo wrote:
Lol his latest video about flip turns is a joke. Dude doesn’t even know how to do them.

What kills me is the "don't do the little foot skip" part.

Why not film it again and do the flip the right way? or even better get someone who can do a proper flip turn and film them.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [boobooaboo] [ In reply to ]
 
boobooaboo wrote:
Lol his latest video about flip turns is a joke. Dude doesn’t even know how to do them.

Sooo much extraneous movement. Still, not the worst I've seen. At least he isn't windmilling his arms.

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Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [boobooaboo] [ In reply to ]
 
boobooaboo wrote:
Lol his latest video about flip turns is a joke. Dude doesn’t even know how to do them.


I watched his video, and though his flip turn was just fine for a triathlete. There's no need for him to flip like an olympic swimmer. That said, I learned years ago from a much, much, much more basic five step progression from Go Swim. I had a lot of people at the pool try to teach me, but couldn't get it when someone wanted you to start right into it like he was showing. Taren's method would not have helped me at all. The Go Swim progression is much better suited for an AOS; especially if you are learning at an advanced age (I was 53 when I first decided I wanted to be able to do this). All the videos are on YouTube. Here's the first:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFQpLyihI5M
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
 
Yeah, his video doesn’t address the biggest hurdle to learning flip turns, which is getting disoriented in the middle of the turn. It takes a few thousand reps to get truly used to it, but it helps if you learn the flip all by itself before you take it close to the wall.

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Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 



Now he's doing Lionel; getting a coach/consultant and keeping the name a secret.


This dude is weird.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
This guy loves hearing himself talk, I wonder if he watches his own videos with the lights out and some candles burning

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Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that he hired Ben Greenfield?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [karmatraining] [ In reply to ]
 
karmatraining wrote:
Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that he hired Ben Greenfield?

I just had to google this guy... "Ben Greenfield is a biohacker, human body and brain performance coach, ex-bodybuilder, Ironman triathlete, professional Spartan athlete, anti-aging consultant, speaker and author of the New York Times Bestseller “Beyond Training: Mastering Endurance, Health and Life†"

Surprisingly voodoo master wasn't listed as a qualification

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Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
Did I hear right that he's not saying his name because he's not sure this person is even going to work with him?!?! At least he seems to understand he's a headcase that a 'coach' may not want to get within drafting distance of.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [pacco] [ In reply to ]
 
pacco wrote:
Did I hear right that he's not saying his name because he's not sure this person is even going to work with him?!?! At least he seems to understand he's a headcase that a 'coach' may not want to get within drafting distance of.

I thought the same thing while I was watching it, but after a little thought it could be that he hadn't talked to the couch about making it public yet.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [lced0ut] [ In reply to ]
 
lced0ut wrote:
pacco wrote:
Did I hear right that he's not saying his name because he's not sure this person is even going to work with him?!?! At least he seems to understand he's a headcase that a 'coach' may not want to get within drafting distance of.


I thought the same thing while I was watching it, but after a little thought it could be that he hadn't talked to the couch about making it public yet.

You know a guy is a headcase when he has a secret relationship with his couch...poor Taren has lost the plot.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [Jordano] [ In reply to ]
 
Jordano wrote:
lced0ut wrote:
pacco wrote:
Did I hear right that he's not saying his name because he's not sure this person is even going to work with him?!?! At least he seems to understand he's a headcase that a 'coach' may not want to get within drafting distance of.


I thought the same thing while I was watching it, but after a little thought it could be that he hadn't talked to the couch about making it public yet.

You know a guy is a headcase when he has a secret relationship with his couch...poor Taren has lost the plot.

Haha , and this kids is why you should proofread your work
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Jordano] [ In reply to ]
 
Personally, I'm coached by Tim Don and Gerry Rodriguez....
well I downloaded a Zone 3 plan with Tim Don picture, and I looked at a Gerry video on Youtube...
I'm not going to make it public yet...
Keep that secret, please :-)
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Pyrenean Wolf] [ In reply to ]
 
Pyrenean Wolf wrote:
Personally, I'm coached by Tim Don and Gerry Rodriguez....
well I downloaded a Zone 3 plan with Tim Don picture, and I looked at a Gerry video on Youtube...
I'm not going to make it public yet...
Keep that secret, please :-)

I notice all you guys complaining about him seem to have a pretty steady watching habit if you can speak to his comings and goings so accurately (He wins this round again). Who cares who he says MIGHT be coaching him? Who cares if he gives bad advice for that matter? Clearly you know better than to listen to him and don't tell me you care about new triathletes entering the sport who watch him. So really, you're just in pile-on mode because it's easy and sadly human nature.

Maybe you just take him with a grain of salt and move on. For enough newbs he seems to hit the mark or he wouldn't have gone full-time into this sport.

Bottom line is he gives insight into the sport for newer athletes. This is needed to grow the sport. We want the sport to continue to grow. Keep the ugly attitudes in the back seat and let happy ambassadors to the sport through ;)
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [lutador72] [ In reply to ]
 
 

Tarthlete ?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Pyrenean Wolf] [ In reply to ]
 
Pyrenean Wolf wrote:


Tarthlete ?

lol, no.
BUT be nice! is all I'm sayin'
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [lutador72] [ In reply to ]
 
lutador72 wrote:
Pyrenean Wolf wrote:


Tarthlete ?

lol, no.
BUT be nice! is all I'm sayin'

Why be nice? He isn't doing this to bring people into the sport, he is doing it to make money. If someone is going to produce public content then it's open to public criticism (and adulation)

He has hits and misses. Looking back to his old stuff though I do much more prefer it to what he puts out most of the time today.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [karmatraining] [ In reply to ]
 
karmatraining wrote:
Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that he hired Ben Greenfield?

i suggest everyone look up the joe rogan interview with ben. it’s pure entertainment. this guy is borderline crazy with his “bio hacking.â€

80/20 Endurance Ambassador
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
dunno wrote:
lutador72 wrote:
Pyrenean Wolf wrote:


Tarthlete ?


lol, no.
BUT be nice! is all I'm sayin'


Why be nice? He isn't doing this to bring people into the sport, he is doing it to make money. If someone is going to produce public content then it's open to public criticism (and adulation)

He has hits and misses. Looking back to his old stuff though I do much more prefer it to what he puts out most of the time today.


why be a dick? isn't that a better question?
Last edited by: IvarAlmere: Mar 5, 19 1:00
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [IvarAlmere] [ In reply to ]
 
We never said Taren was a dick

Do you think so ?

Just having fun on so common "social networks influencers gimmicks"
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Pyrenean Wolf] [ In reply to ]
 
I wasn't talking about Taren.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [IvarAlmere] [ In reply to ]
 
As someone who's whole premise is now to spruik training plans and hints and tips he is in a different sphere compared to the original 'journey man' he used to portray.

As such he should be called out when he says stupid stuff about nutrition or training. I'm getting sick of him saying cold air is thinner when it is not. Cold air is more dense, hot air is less dense. And yet he continues to explain training variability due to the air being thinner because it's cold...just wrong wrong wrong.
Last edited by: dunno: Mar 5, 19 13:26
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
I don't watch his videos much...but wtf did he say that? That's like 4th grade level science...a 9 year old would run circles around him.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
 
TheStroBro wrote:
I don't watch his videos much...but wtf did he say that? That's like 4th grade level science...a 9 year old would run circles around him.

Did you miss the one where he says MCT Oil doesn't break a fast in the morning because it's transparent in color?

Completely ignoring the fact that 1 tbsp of MCT oil has 130 calories from fat.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
No, I definitely caught that one. I then sent a sweet sabot round through that idea in a comment.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [lced0ut] [ In reply to ]
 
lced0ut wrote:
pacco wrote:
Did I hear right that he's not saying his name because he's not sure this person is even going to work with him?!?! At least he seems to understand he's a headcase that a 'coach' may not want to get within drafting distance of.


I thought the same thing while I was watching it, but after a little thought it could be that he hadn't talked to the couch about making it public yet.


I haven't watched this video yet (I'm a casual viewer and will watch them if the content interests me or for entertainment). However I think I know who the "coach" is.

Posted a couple of hours before taren's video went up, there was also a video posted by Effortless Swimming called "TRIATHLON TAREN: Before & After (7 secs/100m FASTER)". They also released a video going back a few months where he was analysing Taren's technique.
Last edited by: greasdupdeafguy: Mar 5, 19 17:09
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [greasdupdeafguy] [ In reply to ]
 
greasdupdeafguy wrote:
I haven't watched this video yet (I'm a casual viewer and will watch them if the content interests me or for entertainment). However I think I know who the "coach" is.

Posted a couple of hours before taren's video went up, there was also a video posted by Effortless Swimming called "TRIATHLON TAREN: Before & After (7 secs/100m FASTER)". They also released a video going back a few months where he was analysing Taren's technique.

I think that is unlikely. Brenton Ford (from effortless swimming) is a swim coach. He coaches triathletes to swim better, but I have never heard of him coaching cycling or running.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [RobInOz] [ In reply to ]
 
RobInOz wrote:
greasdupdeafguy wrote:
I haven't watched this video yet (I'm a casual viewer and will watch them if the content interests me or for entertainment). However I think I know who the "coach" is.

Posted a couple of hours before taren's video went up, there was also a video posted by Effortless Swimming called "TRIATHLON TAREN: Before & After (7 secs/100m FASTER)". They also released a video going back a few months where he was analysing Taren's technique.

I think that is unlikely. Brenton Ford (from effortless swimming) is a swim coach. He coaches triathletes to swim better, but I have never heard of him coaching cycling or running.

My mistake, I haven't watched the video and presumed Taren was just talking about a swim coach when I saw the two videos posted at about the same time.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
I'm curious how all this training as basically a professional triathlete will result in the race coming up.

When I hear the paces for his running and then he says you only need to run 3-4 times a week I am just thinking that is only correct if you are actually already a good runner. Practically every triathlete I ever met who is relatively weakest at running seems to think they don't need to run a lot to improve. Kinda like how I suck most at swimming and don't go swimming a lot more to improve (although I am working on it after a dedicated swim camp).

He has me beat in the water but I'd run him down every time except in the seemingly very fast 70.3 WC where he swam and biked a bit faster than usual. I am guessing that faster time has more to do with the course and conditions than with actual big improvements. With the same times I'd never even qualify here in Europe.

Anyway, looking at his times it's clear to me he could benefit most by doing a dedicated running period. Get that half marathon time way down. Like with swimming those benefits stay with you once you get them.

But then I read here that someone who gave him pointers on running got blocked because he also mentioned weight. This is weird to me if you are trying to be a coach and also want to improve your performance. Sometimes you don't need a coach if you look at the numbers from several races in the past to determine where the biggest improvements are.

So I am curious for those final weeks. With WC being in the very nice Nice I don't expect a new qualification. I do expect a faster run time below 1:30. Otherwise I'd be disappointed with all the training if it were me. Lucky for me I train a lot less so I'm not easily disappointed for myself :)
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [tomdefietsbom] [ In reply to ]
 
I don't think he trains anywhere near like a professional athlete. His business gives him lots of flexibility in regards to when he trains. However you would be surprised how much time would be required to run the business.

Also kudos to Taren for getting so much training done on the Kickr and Treadmill during the terrible Canadian Winter conditions. I couldn't do that. Luckily I live in Australia and don't have to.

Having already qualified for Nice I am planning a run block of 6 runs per week. One of Taren's problems is injuries as a result of running. He seems to be trying to work around this issue rather than address it directly, but that is another topic.

All in all, I think Taren is doing a good job. I don't agree with a fair amount of what he says, but I still watch and enjoy his videos. And I hope he continues to do well both with his videos and triathlon times.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [RobInOz] [ In reply to ]
 
RobInOz wrote:
greasdupdeafguy wrote:

I haven't watched this video yet (I'm a casual viewer and will watch them if the content interests me or for entertainment). However I think I know who the "coach" is.

Posted a couple of hours before taren's video went up, there was also a video posted by Effortless Swimming called "TRIATHLON TAREN: Before & After (7 secs/100m FASTER)". They also released a video going back a few months where he was analysing Taren's technique.


I think that is unlikely. Brenton Ford (from effortless swimming) is a swim coach. He coaches triathletes to swim better, but I have never heard of him coaching cycling or running.

Who's Brenton? Tarren just posted a video where he refers to this guy 'Bret' through the whole video?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
Everyone is quick to critique but slow to put out their own content. Reality is there will always been numerous views on various topics, regardless of the source. Historically this has always been the case from training methods to diet to people's view/trends on topics. He's clearly build a following and audience and 99% of STers should be able to build even bigger audience by putting out better, correct information. Is the guy annoying at times? Yes. Is he a world class coach? No. Is he qualified to coach? I guess that depends on what an athletes needs are. There certainly are much and many more unqualified coaches out there.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TRobTri] [ In reply to ]
 
TRobTri wrote:
Everyone is quick to critique but slow to put out their own content. Reality is there will always been numerous views on various topics, regardless of the source. Historically this has always been the case from training methods to diet to people's view/trends on topics. He's clearly build a following and audience and 99% of STers should be able to build even bigger audience by putting out better, correct information. Is the guy annoying at times? Yes. Is he a world class coach? No. Is he qualified to coach? I guess that depends on what an athletes needs are. There certainly are much and many more unqualified coaches out there.
He is certainly faster than me.

And if everyone bags out someone who is different guys like him will disappear. Even if he brings 10 new people to the sport, then thats awesome.

For the record I only watch his news videos on youtube. I like that. Other stuff not so much.

Rhymenocerus wrote:
I think everyone should consult ST before they do anything.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [dunno] [ In reply to ]
 
How can he put out a video today about how I saved 7 secs per 100m with effortless swimming after 6 days ago posting the results of 12 months of focused time using tower26?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [flight<bird] [ In reply to ]
 
flight<bird wrote:
How can he put out a video today about how I saved 7 secs per 100m with effortless swimming after 6 days ago posting the results of 12 months of focused time using tower26?

Because they are 2 different things. Effortless Swimming is the analysis (what to do). T26 is the means to get there.

I actually appreciated that he flat out said that Brenton saw things that Taren would have never picked up on, recognizing his own limitations.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I am not a triathlete (cyclist) but had one of his videos pop up on 10 beginner cycling mistakes. It was so utterly wrong from a physiology standpoint i would never trust another one of his videos. That's all i got.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [ In reply to ]
 
23 pages on a Youtuber......really?
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [sjc166] [ In reply to ]
 
sjc166 wrote:
23 pages on a Youtuber......really?

You should see how many pages a female instagram fitness celebrity gets.

2x Deca-Ironman World Cup (10 Ironmans in 10 days), 2x Quintuple Ironman World Cup (5 Ironmans in 5 days), Ultraman, Ultra Marathoner, and I once did an Ironman.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
He's so annoying, cuts off guest and get salty if someone makes a plug about one of their sponsors. I will give him credit thought, he trains hard and is dedicated to his craft. I can't fault him for that.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
I ran into a couple of his videos a while back and did not like it, found him slightly over the top. I recently revisited his content partly because of this thread, and this time around thought it was quite good, production value is high. Some of the segments are a bit long for my taste, but overall good. What I wanted to add is that his wife adds a lot of value, very charming and compelling story.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
Taren's videos now have commercials.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [FastFor114.4] [ In reply to ]
 
FastFor114.4 wrote:
Taren's videos now have commercials.

Yeah, I saw the ad for the socks.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
 
I like counting forehead wrinkles in cringeworthy thumbnails.



 
Re: Triathlon Taren [bretzky] [ In reply to ]
 
bretzky wrote:
I like counting forehead wrinkles in cringeworthy thumbnails.


Bahahahahahahaha,

Yellowfin Endurance Coaching and Bike Fits
USAT Level 1, USAC Level 3
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [bretzky] [ In reply to ]
 
I've watched a lot of Taren's videos. I think for the beginner triathlete they are good which is what I am. Lots of good info and training tips. If anything his videos open up your mind to ideas that you can further research for more specific instruction. Once again for beginners. For anyone who is moderate to advanced probably going to be annoying and pointless. One annoying thing is he does spend a ton of time with his shirt off or in a speedo. and I am sorry but no one looks good in a speedo. It is just physically impossible.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [SoonerBorn] [ In reply to ]
 
SoonerBorn wrote:
I've watched a lot of Taren's videos. I think for the beginner triathlete they are good which is what I am. Lots of good info and training tips. If anything his videos open up your mind to ideas that you can further research for more specific instruction. Once again for beginners. For anyone who is moderate to advanced probably going to be annoying and pointless. One annoying thing is he does spend a ton of time with his shirt off or in a speedo. and I am sorry but no one looks good in a speedo. It is just physically impossible.

I look awesome in a speedo. #fact

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
Common misconception among swimmer. "The smaller the better". Probably true considering drag in the water, but speedos on a guy never looks good. Not even on Olympians with shredded bodies.

Personally I look like a commercial poster. I am the before picture :)
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Schnellinger] [ In reply to ]
 
Schnellinger wrote:
Common misconception among swimmer. "The smaller the better". Probably true considering drag in the water, but speedos on a guy never looks good. Not even on Olympians with shredded bodies.

Personally I look like a commercial poster. I am the before picture :)

Not the smaller the better, but appropriately sized to highlight my fabulous buttocks.

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Re: Triathlon Taren [Schnellinger] [ In reply to ]
 
Just as I am a superb judge of which bikinis look good on which women (or not), only women are qualified judges of which men can/should wear a Speedo. I would imagine there are many women who vehemently disagree with your assertion that Speedos never look good on a guy.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
 
HuffNPuff wrote:
Just as I am a superb judge of which bikinis look good on which women (or not), only women are qualified judges of which men can/should wear a Speedo. I would imagine there are many women who vehemently disagree with your assertion that Speedos never look good on a guy.

It is a universal truth that a proper speedo looks far better than a pair of jammers. Even one of those ridiculous euro-cut speedos....

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2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
Some top triathletes and duathletes in the 90s raced in something approaching a mr olympia mankini but that didnt seem to catch on
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [lacticturkey] [ In reply to ]
 
It was the crop top that destroyed that look..... ((((shudder))))

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2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
It was the crop top that destroyed that look..... ((((shudder))))

Nailed it! (I can't handle crop tops - on dudes)
Post of the day!

These last few posts here have been what I've been missing here on ST, who cares about aero data, tires, shoes, etc?

Reminds me of the movie Stripes, where Bill Murry said. "chicks dig me because I rarely wear underwear, and when I do..."

I saw this on a white board in a window box at my daughters middle school...
List of what life owes you:
1. __________
2. __________
3. __________
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
SoonerBorn wrote:
I've watched a lot of Taren's videos. I think for the beginner triathlete they are good which is what I am. Lots of good info and training tips. If anything his videos open up your mind to ideas that you can further research for more specific instruction. Once again for beginners. For anyone who is moderate to advanced probably going to be annoying and pointless. One annoying thing is he does spend a ton of time with his shirt off or in a speedo. and I am sorry but no one looks good in a speedo. It is just physically impossible.


I look awesome in a speedo. #fact
And you've posted stroke videos to confirm said fact :)
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
 
They can disagree all they want. In my eyes, my opinion is the right one <3
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
If you're a swimmer I find it hard to believe that you even have any buttocks
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [Schnellinger] [ In reply to ]
 
Schnellinger wrote:
If you're a swimmer I find it hard to believe that you even have any buttocks

I do, and they are FABULOUS!!!

Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [manofthewoods] [ In reply to ]
 
Once upon a time there was Kenny Souza.

No, the speedo wasn't for the swim, as Kenny didn't really DU water.

https://www.runnersworld.com/...h-for-runners-world/

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Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
Schnellinger wrote:
Common misconception among swimmer. "The smaller the better". Probably true considering drag in the water, but speedos on a guy never looks good. Not even on Olympians with shredded bodies.

Personally I look like a commercial poster. I am the before picture :)


Not the smaller the better, but appropriately sized to highlight my fabulous buttocks.

So you squat so much you have Delaware Street Naps?

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
 
JasoninHalifax wrote:
Schnellinger wrote:
If you're a swimmer I find it hard to believe that you even have any buttocks


I do, and they are FABULOUS!!!

Hydrosloth wrote:
Once upon a time there was Kenny Souza.

No, the speedo wasn't for the swim, as Kenny didn't really DU water.

https://www.runnersworld.com/...h-for-runners-world/

2YearstoIronman wrote:
Can we all just agree that Taren is not funny and his "Let's have mimosas at the men's beach" speedo collection does not flatter him? He could do a tight 5 minutes of cringy, awful dad jokes, and it would be the least cringe thing he's ever done.

2YearstoIronman wrote:
Advertiser turned "influencer"....it's a shame he was born an unfunny, ginger, closeted, Canadian man rather than a woman with no morals and ass implants. He'd be a god damn millionaire from his instagram account alone.

This thread: 15/10. *both thumbs up*
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
It's like he's purposely messing with us at this point. In his latest video he says "hacks are one of my biggest pet peeves". Am I wrong to think that all he really posts about are hacks? 4% shoes, carbon insoles, sitting in cold weather in a speedo to start fat loss, 3D printed goggles, etc.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [stevesimpson] [ In reply to ]
 
stevesimpson wrote:
It's like he's purposely messing with us at this point. In his latest video he says "hacks are one of my biggest pet peeves". Am I wrong to think that all he really posts about are hacks? 4% shoes, carbon insoles, sitting in cold weather in a speedo to start fat loss, 3D printed goggles, etc.
Whoa now on the goggles! I have 4 pairs of these, and they are actually pretty sweet. Worth the extra $$? No. But they work pretty slick and are quality.
 
Re: Triathlon Taren [CU427] [ In reply to ]
 
Taren is so fucking annoying.....