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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Why do you hate the handicapped?!?! :) But hey, all of congress, both sides of the aisle, are on notice that we can force them to deal with a like wise insufferable douche-bag at any time. That has to be worth something.
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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Right! - The least he could have done was iron those jeans!
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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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I think that they lean right...
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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not sure what you are getting at, but the biggest travesty in this photo is the guy wearing the zippered microfiber underneath a sport coat.
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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Only one woman? Well, it is 2015...
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Re: So much wrongness... [TimeIsUp] [ In reply to ]
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Good spot.... in a sea of sartorial slop.

Not one person is wearing clothes that fit. Take the trousers; are zoot suits a thing again? Why not just wear a potato sack and shout, “I’m a shapeless lump and the potato is the closest mannequin my tailor had.”

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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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More whining without actually saying anything constructive. Way to keep up your streak.
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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Do any of them know a tailor?

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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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If that is a real picture...........there are some basic rule violations I'd expect someone from Kentucky or Wisconsin to even adhere to.
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Re: So much wrongness... [Uncle Arqyle] [ In reply to ]
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Uncle Arqyle wrote:
If that is a real picture...........there are some basic rule violations I'd expect someone from Kentucky or Wisconsin to even adhere to.

It's quite real (taken today or yesterday at Camp David). Are you saying that you expected someone from those states to make those rule violations, or to know enough about them to not make the violations? Not sure how one adheres to rule violations.

I'm also curious about whether height is a way to measure influence, or they just sorted the participants that way.

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Re: So much wrongness... [Dan Os Fan] [ In reply to ]
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Dan Os Fan wrote:
More whining without actually saying anything constructive. Way to keep up your streak.

The irony.

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Re: So much wrongness... [drn92] [ In reply to ]
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drn92 wrote:
Do any of them know a tailor?

drn92

It looks like they were out walking around, decided to eat somewhere, then found out jackets were required so they are all wearing clothes provided by the restaurant.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Sonofabitch. That dickhead Pauk Ryan is wearing allbirds shoes. Those were the hippest soles in the valley, and now I feel like I need to burn my pair. How did they let that guy buy a pair and sink their brand?
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Re: So much wrongness... [Dan Os Fan] [ In reply to ]
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Secretary Mattis is the only one in the bunch that looks like they even know what a tailor is.
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Re: So much wrongness... [TimeIsUp] [ In reply to ]
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TimeIsUp wrote:
I'm not sure what you are getting at, but the biggest travesty in this photo is the guy wearing the zippered microfiber underneath a sport coat.

You sure that's a micro fleece and not just a polo with a popped collar? It is Paul Ryan, after all.



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Re: So much wrongness... [TimeIsUp] [ In reply to ]
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Also, am I the only one who can't see McConnell's face without thinking of Mason Verger?

Edit: apparently not. Google's all over it.



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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Trump's the only one in a tie. The rest of them must not be worthy. And as r_r correctly pointed out - only one token woman.
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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Well it’s obviously not a fashion show, but definitely appears to be a gathering of people — save for one — who would rather be anywhere except where they’re at.
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Re: So much wrongness... [onehandicap] [ In reply to ]
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Agreed. Mattis looks the most put together.

drn92
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Re: So much wrongness... [ilikepizza] [ In reply to ]
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I like the allbirds, just wish they had a lower drop. Now that Ryan is wearing them I may have to rethink my position.

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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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That is quite a diverse group...

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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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klehner wrote:
I'm also curious about whether height is a way to measure influence, or they just sorted the participants that way.

they line up the backgrounders by height (?) and send out a pic with the mike cord just lying there. This can't be an official shot. Can it?
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Re: So much wrongness... [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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sphere wrote:
TimeIsUp wrote:
I'm not sure what you are getting at, but the biggest travesty in this photo is the guy wearing the zippered microfiber underneath a sport coat.

You sure that's a micro fleece and not just a polo with a popped collar? It is Paul Ryan, after all.


Although no one would that past him, polos usually don't unbutton that far and it appears to be a zipper upon further zooming. Polo with a popped collar over a button down would be incredible though.
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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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The 1980's called and want their purple anodize back
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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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What is your complaint exactly?
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Re: So much wrongness... [orphious] [ In reply to ]
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orphious wrote:
What is your complaint exactly?

Besides the multitude of serious fashion don'ts, the lining everyone up by height (with the only woman on the end), Trump seeming to be standing on a riser to make him taller than everyone else (although it may be the camera angle) and having the mic cord just lying there?

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Re: So much wrongness... [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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Hopefully someday we as a country will get over the "pop on a blazer over whatever weekend wear you have on for the press conference" routine.

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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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klehner wrote:
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What is your complaint exactly?


Besides the multitude of serious fashion don'ts, the lining everyone up by height (with the only woman on the end), Trump seeming to be standing on a riser to make him taller than everyone else (although it may be the camera angle) and having the mic cord just lying there?

Just as I thought. Just another liberal braying like a jackass over nothing.
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Re: So much wrongness... [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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I love how the image celebrates diversity. The photo shows how inclusive the GOP is to all colors ranging from white to beige to chalk to egg shell to alabaster.
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Re: So much wrongness... [Trieatalot] [ In reply to ]
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I love how the image celebrates diversity. The photo shows how inclusive the GOP is to all colors ranging from white to beige to chalk to egg shell to alabaster.

I dunno. I'm getting kind of tired of our celebration of diversity. Every time I look behind the scenes at "diversity", I see racial preferences. I'm good with diversity, but I'm not good with racial preferences.

Diversity shouldn't be an objective, it should be a result of equal opportunity. What does our call for "diversity" mean when we make it easier for one racial group, and make it harder for another, because they're historic over achievers? If I was was of Indian or Oriental descent, I'd be pissed that my group was, in pursuit of "diversity", often intentionally excluded because my group tends to work it's ass off.

When our lack of diversity is a result of one group not working as hard to succeed as another, attempts to achieve diversity are racist as heck.

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Re: So much wrongness... [orphious] [ In reply to ]
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orphious wrote:
klehner wrote:
orphious wrote:
What is your complaint exactly?


Besides the multitude of serious fashion don'ts, the lining everyone up by height (with the only woman on the end), Trump seeming to be standing on a riser to make him taller than everyone else (although it may be the camera angle) and having the mic cord just lying there?


Just as I thought. Just another liberal braying like a jackass over nothing.

You know, perhaps my use of the term "wrongness" might have clued your righty ass into the lack of actual caring about this photo. WTF did you think I meant?

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Re: So much wrongness... [RangerGress] [ In reply to ]
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RangerGress wrote:
Trieatalot wrote:
I love how the image celebrates diversity. The photo shows how inclusive the GOP is to all colors ranging from white to beige to chalk to egg shell to alabaster.

I dunno. I'm getting kind of tired of our celebration of diversity. Every time I look behind the scenes at "diversity", I see racial preferences. I'm good with diversity, but I'm not good with racial preferences.

Diversity shouldn't be an objective, it should be a result of equal opportunity. What does our call for "diversity" mean when we make it easier for one racial group, and make it harder for another, because they're historic over achievers? If I was was of Indian or Oriental descent, I'd be pissed that my group was, in pursuit of "diversity", often intentionally excluded because my group tends to work it's ass off.

When our lack of diversity is a result of one group not working as hard to succeed as another, attempts to achieve diversity are racist as heck.

OK sure, so how do you explain the near total uniformity of the assemblage then?
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Re: So much wrongness... [OneGoodLeg] [ In reply to ]
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RangerGress wrote:
Trieatalot wrote:
I love how the image celebrates diversity. The photo shows how inclusive the GOP is to all colors ranging from white to beige to chalk to egg shell to alabaster.

I dunno. I'm getting kind of tired of our celebration of diversity. Every time I look behind the scenes at "diversity", I see racial preferences. I'm good with diversity, but I'm not good with racial preferences.

Diversity shouldn't be an objective, it should be a result of equal opportunity. What does our call for "diversity" mean when we make it easier for one racial group, and make it harder for another, because they're historic over achievers? If I was was of Indian or Oriental descent, I'd be pissed that my group was, in pursuit of "diversity", often intentionally excluded because my group tends to work it's ass off.

When our lack of diversity is a result of one group not working as hard to succeed as another, attempts to achieve diversity are racist as heck.


OK sure, so how do you explain the near total uniformity of the assemblage then?

It's become entirely unremarkable to aggressively promote protected classes in most venues where a level playing field would be most fair. Jobs, contracts, academics, promotions, you name it. Much of this is even enshrined by law. Where it's not, institutions are so culturally predisposed to do it, that they press against the boundaries of law. I give you, for example, college admission policies that occasionally have to dial it back a bit. These are grossly racist policies all.

Then we have the outrageously racist/sexist actions of the various protected classes. Black companies that overtly prefer blacks employees and that's ok. Chick companies that overtly prefer chicks and that's ok. Contracts that give preferences to protected classes, and that's ok. Companies that advertise themselves as primarily some protected class, and that's ok. IIRC there were whole districts of Philly that were 99-100% Obama, and no one batted an eye. Some admin is trying to fill some senior position and they go out of their way to find a protected class person to find the job, be it cabinet or SCOTUS, and that's ok. All these outrageous examples of racism, sexism, and all the other isms, and it's all ok because "protected class". Such hypocrisy our culture shows.

But the president is in front of a bunch of white guys and an explanation is required. Right.

Besides, calling Trump representative of the GOP is silly. The GOP has it's warts, sure. But Trump being in office represents only the result of a comparison between Trump and HC to the GOP faithful. And the fact that the GOP faithful aren't any smarter then the Dem faithful. Heck, they're probably less smart. What a lousy choice we all had in that last election.

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Re: So much wrongness... [RangerGress] [ In reply to ]
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When our lack of diversity is a result of one group not working as hard to succeed as another, attempts to achieve diversity are racist as heck.

So the lack of diversity is the result of a perfect meritocracy?
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Re: So much wrongness... [gsmacleod] [ In reply to ]
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RangerGress wrote:

When our lack of diversity is a result of one group not working as hard to succeed as another, attempts to achieve diversity are racist as heck.


So the lack of diversity is the result of a perfect meritocracy?
Ahhh, let me think about it.....no.

Obviously we will never be a perfect meritocracy. But our institutions and our culture should all reinforce the message of hard work and good decisions are the path to success. What are culture and our laws shouldn't be doing is enshrining racism/sexism, and other isms as "ok, but only for some.". The ism crap isn't ok for anyone.

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Re: So much wrongness... [RangerGress] [ In reply to ]
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Ahhh, let me think about it.....no.

Obviously we will never be a perfect meritocracy. But our institutions and our culture should all reinforce the message of hard work and good decisions are the path to success. What are culture and our laws shouldn't be doing is enshrining racism/sexism, and other isms as "ok, but only for some.". The ism crap isn't ok for anyone.

So why is it that white men are overwhelmingly more successful at working hard and making good decisions?
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Re: So much wrongness... [gsmacleod] [ In reply to ]
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It seems that calls for diversity are only directed at organizations and groups where whites are disproportionately represented. When blacks or Hispanics are overly represented suddenly diversity doesn't matter. So it's not really about diversity but rather it's about forcing whites to take a back seat.
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Re: So much wrongness... [gsmacleod] [ In reply to ]
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gsmacleod wrote:
RangerGress wrote:

Ahhh, let me think about it.....no.

Obviously we will never be a perfect meritocracy. But our institutions and our culture should all reinforce the message of hard work and good decisions are the path to success. What are culture and our laws shouldn't be doing is enshrining racism/sexism, and other isms as "ok, but only for some.". The ism crap isn't ok for anyone.


So why is it that white men are overwhelmingly more successful at working hard and making good decisions?

In many professional fields, women are now entering in larger #'s than men. Look at the demographics of folks chasing after advanced degrees over the past 40yrs. Also, consider how well various Oriental and Indians are doing in the hard sciences in the US, vs whitey. Change is happening all around us.

So lets continue the philosophy of the status quo and reduce the #'s of women getting advanced education because not fair to men. It's already harder, at some schools, for Orientals and Indians to get in. Because it's ok to be racist if one is "progressive", right?

A law handing advantages to a race is just as vile as "back of the bus" and "this lunch counter not for you" laws. We don't get to pick and choose our racist laws.

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Re: So much wrongness... [PrinceMax] [ In reply to ]
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PrinceMax wrote:
It seems that calls for diversity are only directed at organizations and groups where whites are disproportionately represented. When blacks or Hispanics are overly represented suddenly diversity doesn't matter. So it's not really about diversity but rather it's about forcing whites to take a back seat.


I'm curious, in what fields is this over-representation occurring?
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Re: So much wrongness... [gsmacleod] [ In reply to ]
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NBA, NFL.
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Re: So much wrongness... [RangerGress] [ In reply to ]
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RangerGress wrote:
gsmacleod wrote:
RangerGress wrote:

Ahhh, let me think about it.....no.

Obviously we will never be a perfect meritocracy. But our institutions and our culture should all reinforce the message of hard work and good decisions are the path to success. What are culture and our laws shouldn't be doing is enshrining racism/sexism, and other isms as "ok, but only for some.". The ism crap isn't ok for anyone.


So why is it that white men are overwhelmingly more successful at working hard and making good decisions?

In many professional fields, women are now entering in larger #'s than men. Look at the demographics of folks chasing after advanced degrees over the past 40yrs. Also, consider how well various Oriental and Indians are doing in the hard sciences in the US, vs whitey. Change is happening all around us.

So lets continue the philosophy of the status quo and reduce the #'s of women getting advanced education because not fair to men. It's already harder, at some schools, for Orientals and Indians to get in. Because it's ok to be racist if one is "progressive", right?

A law handing advantages to a race is just as vile as "back of the bus" and "this lunch counter not for you" laws. We don't get to pick and choose our racist laws.

And why do you think this is happening? Do you think it's just from hard work or do you think there has been legislation that has helped to make this happen? Do you honestly believe this would have happened if there wasn't a push for diversity from those being left out?

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