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I guess since Jim says it's awesome I should go ahead and just send my money over now, even though my Alpha X bars work just fine. I'm curious to see how this bar improves on the Alpha X.

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Re: TriRig One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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I was going to start a thread to see everyoneā€™s guesses on the improvement over the alpha x.

Iā€™ll start.... 10 watts or 3 min over an IM.

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Re: TriRig One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah I already asked him on IG if I could go ahead and send him my money, no response lol.

I think the main improvement is going to be ease/quickness of adjustment, not necessarily that much more aero. And that is reason enough for me to buy it and sell my alpha x as I'm planning to go see Jim in a couple of months. Being able to make changes quickly during aero testing should be huge.
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Re: TriRig One [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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I thought the alpha x was supposed to be super adjustable already. Is there really that much room for improvement?
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Re: TriRig One [imswimmer328] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone want to sell their Alpha X to upgrade? I am ready to buy. šŸ˜€

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Re: TriRig One [imswimmer328] [ In reply to ]
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There is always room to make minor changes, call them game changers, upgrades etc and cause everyone to want to pay more money for your product. See Apple.

I bet it will be pretty cool though. Iā€™m looking forward to at least seeing it.

Reminds me of this...


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Re: TriRig One [imswimmer328] [ In reply to ]
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I thought the alpha x was supposed to be super adjustable already. Is there really that much room for improvement?

If you put someone on a fit bike and get there exact measurements, then the alpha x is pretty awesome. Except you have to buy an additional tilt kit if you want to angle your arms up. And you have to buy an additional adapter if you want your pads slammed with the extensions in line with the base bar.

But if you want to tinker it is a complete pain in the ass. Have to swap out little spacers and every time you do that you have to basically take the thing completely apart and put it back together again. Very time consuming.
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Re: TriRig One [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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But if you want to tinker it is a complete pain in the ass. Have to swap out little spacers and every time you do that you have to basically take the thing completely apart and put it back together again. Very time consuming.

it's pretty much like this with every bike. If you have Di2 or eTap it becomes a little bit easier but still.

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Re: TriRig One [cloy] [ In reply to ]
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cloy wrote:
Does anyone want to sell their Alpha X to upgrade? I am ready to buy. šŸ˜€[/quote



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Re: TriRig One [Fishbum] [ In reply to ]
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Unless one is a massive disappointment my alpha x will be for sale.
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Re: TriRig One [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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No, really. PM me if you decide to pull the trigger.

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Re: TriRig One [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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Can you hit any reach numbers ( with in reason)? The pad adjustments look pretty large 20 mm and no stem adjustment. I'm not super happy with my Zipp Vuka but I'm really dialed in so I'm hesitant to change.
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Re: TriRig One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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If anyone wants to get ride of their Alpha's PM me.
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Re: TriRig One [Fishbum] [ In reply to ]
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Did you use the calculator on the website? If you are locked in on a specific stack and use of stem shims vs pad shims (like if you want to completely slam the stem and only use pad spacers), then you only have 3 reach options. But the pads are pretty large and can accommodate you moving in between the 3 fixed positions.
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Re: TriRig One [imswimmer328] [ In reply to ]
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imswimmer328 wrote:
I thought the alpha x was supposed to be super adjustable already. Is there really that much room for improvement?

it was super adjustable. but not super duper adjustable. its one achilles adjustment heel was in length: it was a long bar, and didn't adjust back as well as it adjusted in every other plane.

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Re: TriRig One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe I'm dumb....where is info on the One? Can't find any.
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Re: TriRig One [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Dumbass! Itā€™s scheduled for release tomorrow.

Cheers,

Scott
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Re: TriRig One [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah I did. But I'm still Leary about the reach adjustment.
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Re: TriRig One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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refthimos wrote:
I guess since Jim says it's awesome I should go ahead and just send my money over now, even though my Alpha X bars work just fine. I'm curious to see how this bar improves on the Alpha X.


I hope:
  1. Enough of the one bolt, steerer crushing (at below specified torque) stem. 2 bolt works just fine thanks.
  2. Improve the wire routing. Some holes/routing are unusable due to carbon pieces blocking the path.
  3. Make room for the Blip Box or please talk Sram into improving their monstrosity.
  4. Integrate the Hydration (see Profile Design for ideas but ignore their use of a 2lb stem).
  5. Don't take everyone's money with the promise of a totally unrealistic delivery timeframe (see TriRig or Tesla for examples)

Otherwise, still love the Alpha X.
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GreatScott wrote:
Hey Dumbass! Itā€™s scheduled for release tomorrow.

Cheers,

Scott

How do we know this?
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Re: TriRig One [GreatScott] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone have a idea on the price of the ONE?
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Re: TriRig One [Fishbum] [ In reply to ]
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Seeing how itā€™s not released till tomorrow...

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Re: TriRig One [damon.lebeouf] [ In reply to ]
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Ok.... let's guess
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Re: TriRig One [Fishbum] [ In reply to ]
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Iā€™ve been sworn to secrecy, but itā€™s a good price if what I heard was true.
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Re: TriRig One [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Last edited by: GreatScott: Nov 21, 17 17:46
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Re: TriRig One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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While i was reading the thread, the video just dropped on YouTube
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Re: TriRig One [Elktonkool] [ In reply to ]
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It looks beautiful!!!

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Re: TriRig One [cloy] [ In reply to ]
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Looks really clever, though would be good to see a real one and not just the rendering.

I guess for non-Omni bikes you're supposed to cut any extra length of the "stack bar" once you figure out your stack?

Edit: It's also up in the store on TriRig's page. Slowman gets the award for most puns ever in a promotional blurb.
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Re: TriRig One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27lJ7tDsv4A

I will say that Nick has a knack for coming up with what simple, but still new, designs.
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Re: TriRig One [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Doesnā€™t ship until March 2018.

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DFW_Tri wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27lJ7tDsv4A

I will say that Nick has a knack for coming up with what simple, but still new, designs.

This one should pay some homage to Cervelo, though. (though it does improve upon Cervelo a little, at least by initial inspection)
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Re: TriRig One [cloy] [ In reply to ]
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They have my money.....impatiently waiting. Hell yes. Bad ass.
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Re: TriRig One [Mike Alexander] [ In reply to ]
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A more detailed look from aerogeeks! Looks good and makes me want to buy a P2/3 frame then use The One and make it super slick!

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Re: TriRig One [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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DFW_Tri wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27lJ7tDsv4A

I will say that Nick has a knack for coming up with what simple, but still new, designs.

I wonder how that monopost is secured, really like the idea but if itā€™s just friction Iā€™d like some evidence that hitting a bump wouldnā€™t result in it falling down (much)
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Re: TriRig One [SteveM] [ In reply to ]
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Wow, just wow. I thought this was going to be more like Trek's or speedshop's design. This is impressive. And UCI legal, too!


I am wondering how it would look on a regular bike. It looks tailored to their on Omni.

- Do you cut the monopost once you dial in your fit? The monopost will probably look out of place on another bike.
- Does it still hide a DI2 junction box? Does it hide DI2 cables. Loved how clean DI2 looks on an alpha X
- Love the design of the dragon fly, but can't help but be a bit concerned with its strength. If you ride really long and hit a bump. Can the dragon fly stand up to all the forward torque? The monopost looks solid as hell but the dragon fly less so
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SteveM wrote:
DFW_Tri wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27lJ7tDsv4A

I will say that Nick has a knack for coming up with what simple, but still new, designs.


I wonder how that monopost is secured, really like the idea but if itā€™s just friction Iā€™d like some evidence that hitting a bump wouldnā€™t result in it falling down (much)

There is a 4mm bolt on the front of the base bar.
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Re: TriRig One [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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Just sending my money in now as well. This will work perfect on a IA

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Re: TriRig One [bloodyshogun] [ In reply to ]
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bloodyshogun wrote:
Wow, just wow. I thought this was going to be more like Trek's or speedshop's design. This is impressive. And UCI legal, too!


I am wondering how it would look on a regular bike. It looks tailored to their on Omni.

- Do you cut the monopost once you dial in your fit? The monopost will probably look out of place on another bike.
- Does it still hide a DI2 junction box? Does it hide DI2 cables. Loved how clean DI2 looks on an alpha X
- Love the design of the dragon fly, but can't help but be a bit concerned with its strength. If you ride really long and hit a bump. Can the dragon fly stand up to all the forward torque? The monopost looks solid as hell but the dragon fly less so

Putting mine on a Shiv. Plan to experiment a bit and then cut off the excess to clean up the front end. However, if you didn't cut it.....you are talking about an aerodynamic piece that sits in front of a wider head tube. It is possible that having the smaller piece in front of the head tube actually breaks up the wind and helps aerodynamically. Hoping that data is in the aero results when they publish.

It looks like the Di2 junction box fits under the dust cover. Would have been awesome if you could squeeze a blip box in there.
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I think everyone is assuming that the blip box will be going away soon, thus not designing for it.

Mike Alexander wrote:
Would have been awesome if you could squeeze a blip box in there.
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bloodyshogun wrote:
I think everyone is assuming that the blip box will be going away soon, thus not designing for it.

Mike Alexander wrote:
Would have been awesome if you could squeeze a blip box in there.

Yeah...I have heard those rumors.
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Re: TriRig One [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Looks amazing on the Omni - really completes that bike.

Questions for Nick:
- What is the extension width?
- Does the Aerobar Y include a headset cover?
- Any reason that the pad mount holes aren't 6mm wider each side to make the narrowest pad setting possible?
- Expected weight?
- What HTA is the straight Y increment based on?

Some observations:
- 8x as many possible configurations as the Alpha X, though this number is a little inflated by modelling the riser in 1mm increments. Even if we worked to 5mm steps (which is a pretty tight tolerance for most aerobar XY searches) it's still a significant step up from the Alpha X
- Still on the long side for reach for the wider market, good for those pursuing fast positions

XY Fit range vs Alpha X is the same apart from greater granularity on stack



Not as low as the extreme undermount position with Enve, but more overall Y range


Finer adjustment on Y and a touch lower than Profile Design Aeria Ultimate, but a lot less adjustment in X



More useful pad width options than Alpha X


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Re: TriRig One [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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stevej wrote:
Doesnā€™t ship until March 2018.

Dammit!
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Re: TriRig One [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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The specific shape of the BTA mount let me think that we'll can clip a aero hydration system ?
Perhaps tririg upgrade ?

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone know if this will work on older p2's as well? Looks great and have been thinking about a upgrade.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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as mentioned, first thing i thought when i saw it was P5X.

looks quite awesome and looks killer on the tririg bike.

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jrielley wrote:
A more detailed look from aerogeeks! Looks good and makes me want to buy a P2/3 frame then use The One and make it super slick!

I have three TriRig Alpha X bars, one on a P3. It is pretty nice, looks very sharp. I guess this new bar looks super adjustable, which is awesome, but I'm having a hard time understanding what is better about this bar if you have no trouble fitting the existing Alpha X? Given TriRig history with product quality, surprised so many people are lined up to be first users! Think I'd happily buy an Alpha X on sale instead.

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Re: TriRig One [ericlambi] [ In reply to ]
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ericlambi wrote:
jrielley wrote:
A more detailed look from aerogeeks! Looks good and makes me want to buy a P2/3 frame then use The One and make it super slick!

I have three TriRig Alpha X bars, one on a P3. It is pretty nice, looks very sharp. I guess this new bar looks super adjustable, which is awesome, but I'm having a hard time understanding what is better about this bar if you have no trouble fitting the existing Alpha X? Given TriRig history with product quality, surprised so many people are lined up to be first users! Think I'd happily buy an Alpha X on sale instead.

All the bike fitters are getting excited: easy to adjust so it makes their job much simpler and quicker.

And of course you'll need to visit them again to make more minor adjustments to get an even "better" position. And again. And again.

And where's the data/tests to show it really is their "fastest bar ever"?

Apart from the ease of adjustment I'd be surprised if there's any measurable real world performance benefit over the Alpha X.
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Re: TriRig One [ericlambi] [ In reply to ]
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Those running DI2 where would you put the junction box? Would I be better off with the Alpha X?
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Re: TriRig One [moonmonkey02] [ In reply to ]
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moonmonkey02 wrote:

And where's the data/tests to show it really is their "fastest bar ever"?

Apart from the ease of adjustment I'd be surprised if there's any measurable real world performance benefit over the Alpha X.

Itā€™s slowtwitch.....

People are going to buy it because someone said it was fast

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Re: TriRig One [Mike Alexander] [ In reply to ]
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Mike Alexander wrote:
SteveM wrote:
DFW_Tri wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27lJ7tDsv4A

I will say that Nick has a knack for coming up with what simple, but still new, designs.


I wonder how that monopost is secured, really like the idea but if itā€™s just friction Iā€™d like some evidence that hitting a bump wouldnā€™t result in it falling down (much)

There is a 4mm bolt on the front of the base bar.

Yeah, saw that, but how is it holding the monopost? If it's like the cervelo seatpost then it could drop over time, if it only falls a short way then it's probably not a big issue, but if a big bump caused a big drop it could get a bit sketchy.
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Re: TriRig One [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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where do you hide a di2 junction box? doesn't look like there is any place to do that on the bars and no mention on tririg site

personally, i'd prefer a more drop integrated stem to get base bar lower like the enve or profile set ups
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Re: TriRig One [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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What Am I missing...how does the One adjust back any more or differently than the Alpha ?
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Re: TriRig One [ericlambi] [ In reply to ]
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The bar looks sooo easy to adjust so, for me, getting a new bike and dialing in fit would be a lot easier. Now if I were to be putting a bar on an existing frame where I knew coordinates I donā€™t think it would matter as much.

But love the easy stack adjustment. I remember Trevor Wuertle saying he lowers/raises his P5x bats depending on course and distance of the race.

Iā€™d be happy to take someoneā€™s X cheap when they upgrade to The One!

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Re: TriRig One [jrielley] [ In reply to ]
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Will sell you mine for sure
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Re: TriRig One [jeffp] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, can a Di2 junction box fit be hidden? Also, is there any public data out there that compres the Enve bar/stem to this one? If the Di2 box won't fit inside the One, what does that do to its drag? Before I trade in my Enve bars, I'd need to know what I was gaining if anything.
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Re: TriRig One [Fishbum] [ In reply to ]
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Surprised it isnā€™t much more (at least with the free extensions special) than the now discounted alpha x
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Re: TriRig One [TPerry] [ In reply to ]
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TPerry wrote:
Yes, can a Di2 junction box fit be hidden?

Just looking at the photo, it appears to have the same sort of cavity inside the stem that the Alpha X has. The junction box fits in there.

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Re: TriRig One [UKINNY] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry... Weight question

What bar parts are actually weighed.... on the TriRig website it says

Alpha X - 650g
Alpha One - 920g

Anyone know ?
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Re: TriRig One [ericlambi] [ In reply to ]
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ericlambi wrote:
TPerry wrote:
Yes, can a Di2 junction box fit be hidden?


Just looking at the photo, it appears to have the same sort of cavity inside the stem that the Alpha X has. The junction box fits in there.

I already talked to them about the junction box. Here is what they said.


Me: Is there a compartment for the DI2 junction box on the Alpha one?

Tririg: Not exactly. Some smaller junctions can fit inside the stem cavity but not all of them.
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Re: TriRig One [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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cyclenutnz wrote:
Looks amazing on the Omni - really completes that bike.

I don't know about you but seeing this bar makes me want to by the *Omni* and not just the One.... compelling.

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Re: TriRig One [TPerry] [ In reply to ]
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I would presume the stem asnper the previous bar/stem. I doubt there has been a direct comparison between the two bars particularly as it is Just out. Jim (ERO) might have some idea on how compatible they are aero wise.
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Re: TriRig One [TPerry] [ In reply to ]
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way too much time on your hands.......get back on your bike
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Re: TriRig One [Willi3ja] [ In reply to ]
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Willi3ja wrote:
Surprised it isnā€™t much more (at least with the free extensions special) than the now discounted alpha x

You guys will hate me for this, but I told Nick he wasn't charging enough for it. In fact, I think the price is waaaay to low. Luckily for you, he didn't listen to me.

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Re: TriRig One [Keith-OH] [ In reply to ]
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Keith-OH wrote:
ericlambi wrote:
TPerry wrote:
Yes, can a Di2 junction box fit be hidden?


Just looking at the photo, it appears to have the same sort of cavity inside the stem that the Alpha X has. The junction box fits in there.


I already talked to them about the junction box. Here is what they said.


Me: Is there a compartment for the DI2 junction box on the Alpha one?

Tririg: Not exactly. Some smaller junctions can fit inside the stem cavity but not all of them.

so no hidden DI2 box? well crap.

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Re: TriRig One [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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Jim@EROsports wrote:
Willi3ja wrote:
Surprised it isnā€™t much more (at least with the free extensions special) than the now discounted alpha x


You guys will hate me for this, but I told Nick he wasn't charging enough for it. In fact, I think the price is waaaay to low. Luckily for you, he didn't listen to me.

You always say this about new products that launch with top-of-market pricing. The Giro Aerohead was and is expensive as shit, and so is the TriRig One (and all other TriRig products). $1,000 is a huge sum of money for a component on a bicycle, and this is a component sold directly to consumers! You have to figure 80% gross margins on this stuff.

Let me guess, though.... You tested it at the velodrome and it's 15 watts faster that the Alpha X? Is that less or more than Tim O'Donnell gained from the Aerohead?
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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refthimos wrote:
I guess since Jim says it's awesome I should go ahead and just send my money over now

Which is just such a ridiculous thing. Especially when this is the same person arguing for you to need to send as much money over as possible!
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Re: TriRig One [UKINNY] [ In reply to ]
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Sweet! Good thing is the March date leaves me enough time to save money and find a good deal on a frame.

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Re: TriRig One [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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Jim@EROsports wrote:
Willi3ja wrote:
Surprised it isnā€™t much more (at least with the free extensions special) than the now discounted alpha x


You guys will hate me for this, but I told Nick he wasn't charging enough for it. In fact, I think the price is waaaay to low. Luckily for you, he didn't listen to me.

kind of a category killer... not only is he not charging more, or more than other brands, but he's only charging what he used to charge for AlphaX and is passing the savings on to that tier by discounting the X.

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Re: TriRig One [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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kileyay wrote:
Is that less or more than Tim O'Donnell gained from the Aerohead?

Tim gained because he stopped being a "periscope head"

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Re: TriRig One [ericMPro] [ In reply to ]
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ericMPro wrote:
kileyay wrote:
Is that less or more than Tim O'Donnell gained from the Aerohead?


Tim gained because he stopped being a "periscope head"

Actually, no, Tim gained because of Jim @ERO. I saw it right here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BbxMHSUHJIJ/

Night and day difference! Somebody fire Steinmetz!

And power output increased too!
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Re: TriRig One [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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kileyay wrote:
Jim@EROsports wrote:
Willi3ja wrote:
Surprised it isnā€™t much more (at least with the free extensions special) than the now discounted alpha x


You guys will hate me for this, but I told Nick he wasn't charging enough for it. In fact, I think the price is waaaay to low. Luckily for you, he didn't listen to me.


You always say this about new products that launch with top-of-market pricing. The Giro Aerohead was and is expensive as shit, and so is the TriRig One (and all other TriRig products). $1,000 is a huge sum of money for a component on a bicycle, and this is a component sold directly to consumers! You have to figure 80% gross margins on this stuff.

Let me guess, though.... You tested it at the velodrome and it's 15 watts faster that the Alpha X? Is that less or more than Tim O'Donnell gained from the Aerohead?

Considering what competitors are selling their bars for, I would say $1K is pretty cheap for what you're getting. The market will let him know, but I'm betting he could have raised that price. I never blame anyone for creating something and selling it for what the market is willing to pay.

Haven't aero tested it yet. Likely don't plan to do so unless he wants to pay me to do it, or someone comes in to test.

Who said anything about the Aerohead testing fast on TO? We tested it, the P09, the Oakley, Smith, Bontrager, and others. You'll know what was best when you see him race in 2018. Assuming anything from a GIF is not wise.

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Re: TriRig One [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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To defend Matt, not that he needs it, that position wasn't from him. He's positioned TO in the past, but that was not his work.

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Re: TriRig One [ericMPro] [ In reply to ]
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I watched the video and thought ā€œitā€™s a cool conceptā€. But then the showed the shot of the Omni and how it covers the monospacer when itā€™s below the stem and my thoughts became ā€œwell crap, shouldā€™ve waited a couple months to buy a new bikeā€

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Re: TriRig One [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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DFW_Tri wrote:
What Am I missing...how does the One adjust back any more or differently than the Alpha ?

i don't know that you're missing anything. the alpha x had one adjustment limitation: it didn't go back as far as i'd have liked. down? yes. out? yes. up? yes. back? less so.

i don't see that this is changed materially in the alpha one.

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Jim@EROsports wrote:
Willi3ja wrote:
Surprised it isnā€™t much more (at least with the free extensions special) than the now discounted alpha x


You guys will hate me for this, but I told Nick he wasn't charging enough for it. In fact, I think the price is waaaay to low. Luckily for you, he didn't listen to me.


kind of a category killer... not only is he not charging more, or more than other brands, but he's only charging what he used to charge for AlphaX and is passing the savings on to that tier by discounting the X.

Actually, no. That's not how this stuff works. He has developed a new mold now, which is a huge fixed cost, so the new products have to remain expensive to cover that incremental cost. As you amortize the...fuck it. Just, this isn't going to save anyone money, including TriRig.

I have to say, I don't understand this product. I don't understand why you announce it 6 months in advance of its best case ready-by date, which is "March" (July? September?) when it doesn't even seem there is a working/functional prototype. Nobody domestically is buying new front ends right now. It's cold as all hell outside. So why do fire sale pricing on your soon-to-be -- or not so soon to be, as it may turn out -- 'legacy' product, just so that you can clear out a bunch of inventory months in advance, with the new product leaked days before Black Friday. So I don't get any of that.

I also don't understand how we hear all this talk about UCI-Illegal front ends and monster air foils and the wisdom of hiding your junction box and wires and how that means SPEED, but then we are supposed to put this 'improvement' on the bike, which takes a big step backwards in all of those categories except for the speed you can get at your annual pilgrimage to A2. And it's heavier? The Omni is already heavy as shit.

Besides all that, what about this single 4 MM bolt that holds the mono riser jawn, secured by a pushing wedge? If that doesn't scare you, I don't know what does. The hell if I'm running that at the top of the stack envelope on the roads I ride, not that I would need to. We all saw the Factor-gate video. And then for those, like me, who are riding the lowest line on the stack envelope, this product makes even less sense compared to an Alpha X.

Is it possible that we are going too far in the name of adjustability with all this? It just feels like there are too many compromises.

And I don't see how the compromises make it make sense as a front end for someone who either a) knows their fit and/or desired fit well or b) knows nothing about how to alter their on fit. So, for the most experienced and simply for most triathletes, the primary advantage of the product is largely lost. Sure, this makes the life of a fitter recently...I get that. There are already a bunch of fitters shilling for it here. And it seems to nicely complete the Omni. But I just don't see it being successful -- or at least, not as successful as predecessor products -- unless the execution is just unspeakably good. And that has not always been the case with TriRig's most ambitious new products.

The Alpha X is already a best in class front end, and probably among the fastest. I think I would stick with it for the foreseeable future.
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Re: TriRig One [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Oh ok I thought you indicated the One addressed that limitation.
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Re: TriRig One [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Questions for Nick:
- Does the Aerobar Y include a headset cover?

One of the renderings on the TriRig site shows that the stem includes an inset underside to function as a built in headset cover. So my guess would be the y data is based on it sitting down near the toptube w/o an additional headset cover.
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Re: TriRig One [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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My primary concern in failure would be not the mast but the two bolt inserts that most of your weight will be on(arduro high V)

Also how are your shifter cables/wires being run from extensions back? I canā€™t see anything internal.

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Re: TriRig One [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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ā€œThe Alpha X is already a best in class front end, and probably among the fastest. I think I would stick with it for the foreseeable future.ā€œ

Thanks for good perspective on the One.

How would you rate the Alpha X relative to Profile Designā€™s Aeria Ultimate? In other words, which bar do you think is a better choice for those that have settled into a position and are looking for something fast and reliable?

Scot
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ā€œThe Alpha X is already a best in class front end, and probably among the fastest. I think I would stick with it for the foreseeable future.ā€œ

Thanks for good perspective on the One.

How would you rate the Alpha X relative to Profile Designā€™s Aeria Ultimate? In other words, which bar do you think is a better choice for those that have settled into a position and are looking for something fast and reliable?

Scot

i would be intersted in this too. with a qr pr6 disc with an integrated stem, i can't use the alpha x or one, so I'm choosing beteen the pd aeria ultimate and the new morf bars.

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GreatScott wrote:
ā€œThe Alpha X is already a best in class front end, and probably among the fastest. I think I would stick with it for the foreseeable future.ā€œ

Thanks for good perspective on the One.

How would you rate the Alpha X relative to Profile Designā€™s Aeria Ultimate? In other words, which bar do you think is a better choice for those that have settled into a position and are looking for something fast and reliable?

Scot

If you are in the exact position (+/- 2mm) that you need on the Alpha X, I canā€™t imagine a scenario that the AU is going to be superior aerodynamically.

But because of how weird aero is and how dependent it is on your body and on your body being in the best position, thereā€™s a very real possibility that the superior adjustability of the PDā€™s AU could trump the aero superiority of TriRigā€™s AX.

And thatā€™s what Profile Designā€™s product may be boasting, even as their super adjustable bar solution doesnā€™t seem like a competitor aerodynamically. Look at the AU next to the 3T Ventus and they just arenā€™t similar.

But TriRig Alpha X seems pretty similar to the Ventus. Not as similar as the Premier Tactical bar is to the Ventus, but pretty similar.

Theyā€™re both good bars. As to what takes precedence ā€” fit or aero ā€” the answer is that they are equivalent and interchangeable and one in the fucking same. Fit is aero and aero is fit.

Youā€™ll never be able to know which product is better for you (I.e. faster for you) without extensive testing. So just choose one in this case.

As we get into this era of peak aero and our equipment is, for all intents and purposes, performance equivalent, I guess we start to focus the conversation on fit and adjustability.

Which is great. Letā€™s have that talk.

But letā€™s not lose sight of the goal which is to get from point A to point B as fast as possible ā€” and in specific cases, with enough left in your spine to run very fast for some distance.
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Re: TriRig One [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you.

While I chew on that, there is also the viability of the AX. As you pointed out earlier, TriRigā€™s blowout of that bar implies a decision to discontinue the product and (eventually) the related customer support.

All good food for thought over the Thanksgiving Day feast.

Scott
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Re: TriRig One [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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I guess if you go too expensive you move into the territory of super bikes with integrated front ends. In the UK the Trek Speed Concept frameset sells for ƂĀ£2500 and the new Cube Aerium C68 around ƂĀ£3500 both of which include integrated front ends (The cube also includes brakes).

If you go for a Cervelo P3 the frameset is ƂĀ£2299 add in a bar/stem combo if it is much over a grand then it become a bit less of a value way to gain a super bike.
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Re: TriRig One [GreatScott] [ In reply to ]
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GreatScott wrote:
How would you rate the Alpha X relative to Profile DesignĆ¢Ā€Ā™s Aeria Ultimate? In other words, which bar do you think is a better choice for those that have settled into a position and are looking for something fast and reliable?

I expect the Alpha X would handily beat the AU in the tunnel for bike only testing. And the Alpha One would be further ahead.
Things change with a rider on though, much smaller gaps and sometimes reversed order.

AU far more adjustable so there is a higher chance of getting into a better position. Sometimes a 'settled position' turns out not to be the last word when gaining adjustability opens more positional options.

Here's an example of a fit I did last week where we switched a P3 from the stock 3T Vola (which are basically as fast as AU bike only). Had previously optimised his fit as much as possible with the Vola so baseline was with AU matched to that position.

Fit performed with Velogic 3D Motion (to track angles and lateral motion) and 3D Aero (dynamic frontal area measurement)



We could have hit the same position by tilting the whole Vola bar up 12 degrees and fitting a longer stem, but that's not really a practical solution. And while it turned out that his existing pad width was best for him - AU gave the possibility to make small changes to test that.

So having a more adjustable aerobar opened up the opportunity for far more significant aero changes than could be achieved by a change in the aerodynamics of the bar itself. And for an Elite - this is a big deal.

Note for Grill: 3D Aero is not intended to give an absolute CdA - it will be in the ballpark but is really intended for measuring changes in FA. His actual CdA would be a little lower than that.
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Re: TriRig One [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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When I look at the pictures on TriRig I am surprised by how much frontal area is a "flat plate". There aren't many shapes that have a higher Cd and the area, especially under the arm pads, looks to have a decent amount of surface area exposed. In the age of marginal gains, this doesn't look good to the eyeball windtunnel. Let's hope this is the prototype.
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Re: TriRig One [grumpier.mike] [ In reply to ]
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grumpier.mike wrote:
When I look at the pictures on TriRig I am surprised by how much frontal area is a "flat plate". There aren't many shapes that have a higher Cd and the area, especially under the arm pads, looks to have a decent amount of surface area exposed. In the age of marginal gains, this doesn't look good to the eyeball windtunnel. Let's hope this is the prototype.


Also the shaders used in rendering can only do some with a black model. I wouldn't assume that what looks flat really is.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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I have a TriRig Alpha X with tilt kit and gamma extensions that I'm about to place in the classifieds. If anyone is interested, please PM me.

I switched to the PD Aeria Ultimate. For no reason other than because I wanted to try it. The Alpha X is awesome. Nothing bad to say about it.

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If I remember right, if you pre ordered the Alpha One, you got a free set of Gamma One extensions that were due to be shipped in January.
Has anyone received their free extensions?
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [ccassidy] [ In reply to ]
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Gamma One has not shipped yet. They are finished, on their way from the factory now, and should be shipping before the month is out. Same with Gamma 24, same shipment.

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Re: TriRig One [Sanrafaeltri] [ In reply to ]
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Sanrafaeltri wrote:
GreatScott wrote:
ā€œThe Alpha X is already a best in class front end, and probably among the fastest. I think I would stick with it for the foreseeable future.ā€œ

Thanks for good perspective on the One.

How would you rate the Alpha X relative to Profile Designā€™s Aeria Ultimate? In other words, which bar do you think is a better choice for those that have settled into a position and are looking for something fast and reliable?

Scot


i would be intersted in this too. with a qr pr6 disc with an integrated stem, i can't use the alpha x or one, so I'm choosing beteen the pd aeria ultimate and the new morf bars.

As a MORF advocate and someone who really likes QR's bikes, I'd be cautious with combining the PR6 with the MORF bar. Make sure you have a plan for your hydration system. The MORF bar brings with it some new and interesting challenges :)
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Re: TriRig One [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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Green,

I talked with Frank about BTA hydration. He said this would work:

http://www.profile-design.com/product/hydration/aerodrink-basebar-bracket/


What are your thoughts?



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Re: TriRig One [Sanrafaeltri] [ In reply to ]
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That should work. IIRC he's working on his own bracket that functions in a similar fashion. I just wanted you to be aware that your hydration options with the MORF are a bit more limited than a traditional bar.
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Re: TriRig One [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah didn't he have plan for a bracket, I think he referred to it as the "popsicle stick" bracket for BTA drinks like Torhans, Aerodrink etc. shown in the pre-order?
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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How much narrower is the 1 over the X?
The X and classic have in my opinion a very wide cross section but the 1 looks quite a bit skinnier. Any one have that measurement on the new bar? I don't see it on the Tririg site.
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Re: TriRig One [ClayDavis] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah didn't he have plan for a bracket, I think he referred to it as the "popsicle stick" bracket for BTA drinks like Torhans, Aerodrink etc. shown in the pre-order?

Heā€™s mentioned a few possibilities to me and I have a few ideas of my own. You can PM me if you want. I donā€™t want to hijack this thread.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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I assume an etap blip box is too big to fit in the cavity?
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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DFW_Tri wrote:
I assume an etap blip box is too big to fit in the cavity?
Unfortunately correct. That BlipBox is enormous.

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TriRig wrote:
DFW_Tri wrote:
I assume an etap blip box is too big to fit in the cavity?
Unfortunately correct. That BlipBox is enormous.


How much narrower is the one over the alpha now that it's UCI legal. I can see it's not as wide but don't see that measurement on the site.
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Is stack on integrated stem 25mm?
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [Fishbum] [ In reply to ]
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Fishbum wrote:
TriRig wrote:
DFW_Tri wrote:
I assume an etap blip box is too big to fit in the cavity?
Unfortunately correct. That BlipBox is enormous.


How much narrower is the one over the alpha now that it's UCI legal. I can see it's not as wide but don't see that measurement on the site.
Do you mean the chord depth of the base bar? That varies over the course of the bar, but maybe on average itā€™s ~20mm shallower? Just guessing, Iā€™m answering from a phone and donā€™t have the models here.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Measuring where to where?

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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 I thougt Alpha X stem listed 25mm stack on your website so I assumed the Alpha One integrated stem would have the same but why donā€™t you lay out pertinent stem height measurements rather than my trying to guess what I should be asking for. Then I can clarify from there if I still have more questions. Thanks!
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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We list all the specs for Alpha One in the fit guide here: http://www.tririg.com/...lphaone&page=fit

If you don't input any bike model, it'll give you numbers for the Alpha One by itself. Minimum stack to the pads is 55mm. Wherever you would want to measure on the integrated stem is somewhat irrelevant, since it can only be used as a complete system.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Fair enough. Let me clarify. I am not talking in terms of fit coordinates; I only wanting to know the literal height at the back of the stem as I am trying to determine which bento box may fit the best flush against the stem (I realize that may change depending on the addition of any spacers). So, what is the "height" of the stem at the back without any spacers?
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Got it. So what you're actually looking for is the Y-component of the total length of the clamping area, including cable cover. Sorry for the confusion, that's not what I usually think of when referring to the "stack" of a given part. Anyway, the number you're looking for is 44mm:



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Thanks. Yeah, I realized after writing the word "stack" that I was misusing it.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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What is the width of the stem towards the back? I have a Canyon Speedmax CF and was curious how the stem width would work with the "bento box" that came with the bike as far as being flush or hiding behind the stem.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [jb27] [ In reply to ]
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What is the width of the stem towards the back? I have a Canyon Speedmax CF and was curious how the stem width would work with the "bento box" that came with the bike as far as being flush or hiding behind the stem.
Right about 44mm. (That's not a typo, just happens to be the same as the last measurement requested above).

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks!
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Alpha One is Approximately 930g complete with extensions and Ergo Cups.
Alpha X is Approximately 650g complete with extensions (although it is presumably non Ergo cups)

Is the above accurate? If so, what accounts for big weight difference?

Also, if ordered now, are these still shipping in March?
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Alpha One is Approximately 930g complete with extensions and Ergo Cups.
Alpha X is Approximately 650g complete with extensions (although it is presumably non Ergo cups)

Is the above accurate? If so, what accounts for big weight difference?

Also, if ordered now, are these still shipping in March?
First, there's the ~100g difference in cups (Alpha X's published spec is with the Ultralight Cups). Second, Alpha X's spec is at minimum stack (no extra spacers, shortest bolts, no tilt kit). Once you add tilt, and stack, and the same cups, they are pretty close in weight. But it's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison, given their very different assembly method, and the fact that Alpha One has many more mounting points. Alpha One has 5 threaded BTA holes, and 8 threaded arm cup holes -- this is more than double what Alpha X has, and each little threaded insert adds a little weight too.

We are still working very hard to get our first batch shipped out during March, stay tuned for updates. Right now that's still our best estimate.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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I think his question was (which I have the same), if I order right now would I get one from batch 1 or would I have to wait for batch 2?

thanks
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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I've been looking at different bar options ever since Specialized ruined the front end of my Shiv with their bar recall and I'm just curious about your "Huge Sale" savings that you have on the website that I presumed were an effort to move Alpha X stock before the Alpha One becomes available.
The cost for an Alpha X ($749) + the tilt kit ($215 incl the -10%) does not include extensions comes to $964 (including extensions would be ($849 + $215 = $1,064).
The cost for an Alpha One ($999) includes extensions.

I included the tilt kit cost for the Alpha X as that results in similar adjustments (although not as easy - according to your info).

Both say they ship in "Late March"

Why would anyone pay more for the Alpha X over the more adjustable and apparently upgraded Alpha One product?
I guess if you absolutely know you do not want to be able to alter your extension angle you can save the $215.

Not bashing the products - I really like your gear and innovation - just seems odd pricing.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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Agreed. I did this math too. The math may be explainable for manufacturing reasons but regardless, it is odd to price the outdated model more expensively.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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To be clear, Alpha X will remain a current product, it's not being discontinued. It offers a lighter total package, even if you add the tilt kit. And as you pointed out, if you don't need tilt, it is quite a bit less expensive. Regarding the price with/without extensions, the Alpha One pricing only includes extensions as a pre-order bonus (we did the same thing with Alpha X when it was first launched). That bonus will disappear once the bars are a regularly-stocked product.

For many customers, Alpha One may be a much better value proposition, and more attractive for their needs. That's why we developed it in the first place. But others still love Alpha X. We continue to sell lots of them, and we have no plans to stop.

Regarding new orders, we do think we can still meet new preorders with our first production batch, yes. So the estimate you see is still the estimate for a new order.

Thanks for all the interest, everyone! We are VERY excited to finally put these in customers' hands.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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TriRig wrote:
Got it. So what you're actually looking for is the Y-component of the total length of the clamping area, including cable cover. Sorry for the confusion, that's not what I usually think of when referring to the "stack" of a given part. Anyway, the number you're looking for is 44mm:


Could you also give the dimension for the "stem clamp height"
Basically want to know what the minimum exposed steerer tube needs to be for superbike compatibility (Felt IA, P5, etc)

Thanks!
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [onearmedraider] [ In reply to ]
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Itā€™s 29mm tall along the steerer axis, but 1.5mm on the bottom surface is counterbored for covering the headset. So effectively 27.5mm long. Subtract the usual 2-3mm for preload, and you need about 25mm of exposed steerer above your headset compression ring.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Has anyone received their's yet? I saw that the first batch was sent out. I'm considering getting these or the Alpha X's for my Ordu OMP.
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Yes I got mine a week ago, building up my Omni right now. Waiting on 4 Di2 wires from competitive cycle. Front end is together running cables.
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rhudson wrote:
Yes I got mine a week ago, building up my Omni right now. Waiting on 4 Di2 wires from competitive cycle. Front end is together running cables.

Pics or it never happened!!! Also a detailed review about the bike as a whole please... asking for a friendšŸ˜‰šŸ˜‰šŸ˜‰

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [playero] [ In reply to ]
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To hard to post pictures slowtwich i do not bother anymore. If you want some pictures by some other means that can be arranged. Bike is very high quality. So far easy build. Will have everything together this week except for cranks and chain , no press for bottom bracket. That will be done in 4 weeks when I get home. (Out of state ) Build will be done middle of May.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [kart17] [ In reply to ]
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I got mine, and it is now installed on my Felt IA16. A huge thanks to Jim at ERO Sports for finding time to get me fitted and dialed in, and of course to Nick at TriRig for getting the bar out in time for me to get it ready and tested for IMTX.

My first impressions: The arm cups and pads are phenomenal. Extremely comfortable. I also have the Gamma One extensions and they also feel great. I didn't think I had this much room for improvement in terms of comfort over my old setup. And you should have seen how easily and quickly Jim went through incremental changes in the fit. I would literally just sit up for a few seconds while he made several tiny adjustments. As far as the ride, once again they were great. Stable, comfortable, and steering feels very steady. And, of course, looks. I think they look absolutely badass, but here are some pics. You be the judge:





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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [robegan99] [ In reply to ]
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If I am the judge ā€” I just like the look of the Alpha X a lot better. This bar just looks too...UCI. It looks a lot like the regular IA bar, which isnā€™t that hot. A large non-virtual airfoil bar is the hottest bar
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [robegan99] [ In reply to ]
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Here you go Rob...



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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe pedantic but unless it is trimmed flush at the bottom of the stem I'm not a fan of the look. I do like it's ease of adjustment but a single bolt worries holding the force put through your bars.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [Shambolic] [ In reply to ]
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Shambolic wrote:
Maybe pedantic but unless it is trimmed flush at the bottom of the stem I'm not a fan of the look. I do like it's ease of adjustment but a single bolt worries holding the force put through your bars.

I have been waiting for owner pictures and glad to see one on a Felt IA since that is what I have. That is my same thought and would consider trimming once the fit is settled as TriRig said can be done. I am also concerned about the holding force and if trimming flush with the bottom of the bar will have an impact. I am still having issues with the Felt bars moving around and I continue to do the remedies that people have suggested to stop the movement. One of the reasons I am thinking about replacing them, but I want to make sure if I do what I get will be rock solid and stable.
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robegan99 wrote:
And you should have seen how easily and quickly Jim went through incremental changes in the fit. I would literally just sit up for a few seconds while he made several tiny adjustments.
Woohoo! Thatā€™s exactly why we made the bar. So glad to hear you are getting along well with it!

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [Shambolic] [ In reply to ]
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Shambolic wrote:
I do like it's ease of adjustment but a single bolt worries holding the force put through your bars.

That was my initial thought as well, but donā€™t we ride with a single bolt holding our seatpost and I would hazard to guess the forces imparted through the saddle are greater than those imparted through aero bars.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Nick,

Iā€™ve already order the bar but two questions:

Will you eventually offer a replacement post for those that do consider trimming it?

Besides the fairing you will be releasing eventually, what about bottle integration like the PD one?
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Felt_Rider wrote:
Shambolic wrote:
Maybe pedantic but unless it is trimmed flush at the bottom of the stem I'm not a fan of the look. I do like it's ease of adjustment but a single bolt worries holding the force put through your bars.


I have been waiting for owner pictures and glad to see one on a Felt IA since that is what I have. That is my same thought and would consider trimming once the fit is settled as TriRig said can be done. I am also concerned about the holding force and if trimming flush with the bottom of the bar will have an impact. I am still having issues with the Felt bars moving around and I continue to do the remedies that people have suggested to stop the movement. One of the reasons I am thinking about replacing them, but I want to make sure if I do what I get will be rock solid and stable.

I do intend to trim the post once I am certain the fit is dialed in. I don't see how doing so will have any impact aside from improving aesthetics (marginal aero? who knows). Having installed, adjusted, and ridden on the bar, I can tell you I have no concerns about the single bolt holding the monopost. I don't have any experience with the Felt bars, however. So I can't offer you any direct comparison.
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Thanks
I am seriously considering this option.
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Agreed - definitely looking forward to hearing this answer.

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Will you eventually offer a replacement post for those that do consider trimming it?
Yes! The factory is currently at capacity just filling our regular orders, but I've already placed an order for an additional complement of Monoposts, specifically for this purpose. Should be ~$95 or so for a replacement post. Not looking to make those a profit center, just a convenient option for those who need it.

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I don't believe that anything can truly beat the Ventus 1 and 2.

The 1 because it's just SO thin, and the built in levers leave you with the impression that no compromises were made for comfort, reliability, or function. Just fast, fast, fast.
The 2 because it has a Bat Wing feel too it due to the massive drop to the base. Still thin, still extremely deep. Excellent routing, other than for the front brake. They did a poor job there, but it's easily rectified with a dremel.
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Nick

Saw on your site that the Alpha One orders placed today will be fulfilled by end of May. Is this still holding true?

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [Savage8778] [ In reply to ]
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We are doing our best to stay current and updating that projection whenever we have better info.

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Shambolic wrote:
Maybe pedantic but unless it is trimmed flush at the bottom of the stem I'm not a fan of the look. I do like it's ease of adjustment but a single bolt worries holding the force put through your bars.


I have been waiting for owner pictures and glad to see one on a Felt IA since that is what I have. That is my same thought and would consider trimming once the fit is settled as TriRig said can be done. I am also concerned about the holding force and if trimming flush with the bottom of the bar will have an impact. I am still having issues with the Felt bars moving around and I continue to do the remedies that people have suggested to stop the movement. One of the reasons I am thinking about replacing them, but I want to make sure if I do what I get will be rock solid and stable.

For those who wanted to see it with the monopost trimmed, here it is. A regular hacksaw blade (32 tpi) for the cut, then smoothed out with a sanding attachment on a Dremel. I don't put tape or anything over the hole, no whistling or anything weird. And obviously from the side or front, it looks totally clean. I've done everything from short TT efforts all the way up to a full Ironman on it with zero issues. It is a solid piece of gear:


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Are you willing to share some more pictures? Would love to see how it looks on the bike :)
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Tri_Joeri wrote:
Are you willing to share some more pictures? Would love to see how it looks on the bike :)

I put a few on the previous page prior to trimming the monopost. The only difference is the post no longer protruding out the bottom of the base bar.
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robegan99 wrote:
Tri_Joeri wrote:
Are you willing to share some more pictures? Would love to see how it looks on the bike :)


I put a few on the previous page prior to trimming the monopost. The only difference is the post no longer protruding out the bottom of the base bar.

Sorry, I missed those. Thanks!
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Thanks for the kind words Rob! So glad to hear youā€™re happy with the bar!

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Thanks for adding the picture. Bike looks great. Thinking about adding to my IA16.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Adding a link to the Alpha One universal cover here.

I have an Orbea Ordu and have been looking to upgrade the front end. I think this just sealed the deal for me.

http://www.tririg.com/...versal_Cover_Preview


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I'm excited to get my Alpha One for mine. Once this cover comes out I'll also probably order it. Curious how this bike does in the tunnel vs some of the integrated bikes. Only thing I wish I did was get mine in black now.
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Just curious, about to order the Alpha One but the timeline says "ships in june" while the Alpha X says 2-3 weeks.

Which would arrive first? Need bars for my build ASAP!
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Hi TriowaCPA, please email support@tririg.com for timing and availability issues. We will be happy to assist you.

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Hi All,
For those that have installed the Alpha, what are you using as a hydration solution. Also, what are you using to hold your Garmin?

I've mine installed and love it. Need to decide now on a hydration setup for long course and where/how to position the Garmin. Cheers.

P.
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I have a Omni with alpha one bar. Using a x lab cage BTA TriRig bottle with a hole cut in the end and a straw. I do not run a computer except my Garmin watch
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pgibbo wrote:
Hi All,
For those that have installed the Alpha, what are you using as a hydration solution. Also, what are you using to hold your Garmin?

I've mine installed and love it. Need to decide now on a hydration setup for long course and where/how to position the Garmin. Cheers.

P.

I don't have the Alpha One.....yet. If or when I get one I will continue to use the Speedfil Z4 with independent bottles for long course like I do now by rotating bottles from BTS mounts to the BTA. The top of the Edge 820 is almost flush with the top of my forearms so it is fairly tucked in and is in good view if I need a glance at the display. The bottle cage is fairly smooth for getting the bottle in and out and yet I've never lost a bottle during a ride since it is tucked in between my arms in aero or sitting up on rough roads. Disclaimer: I don't race, but I do train diligently using self-supported 80 to 100 mile courses using this setup.

Pics here if you need
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Just installed the Alpha One. Has some nice features and the adjustability is great. I have not had it on the road yet but so far so good
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Thanks for that. You're the third person that has mentioned the speedfill to me. I must take a look at it. Cheers.

P.
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Bars arrived before my new frameset! They look fast sitting in the damn packaging!
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TriowaCPA wrote:


Bars arrived before my new frameset! They look fast sitting in the damn packaging!


Those are going on your P4, right? Let me know how that works out. I'm interested in replacing my stock 3T Aura Pro with something a little bit more adjustable.

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Richard Blaine wrote:
Those are going on your P4, right? Let me know how that works out. I'm interested in replacing my stock 3T Aura Pro with something a little bit more adjustable.

Yes! Frame is about done being painted. Should have all the pieces to build within a week!
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Edit:

Here are the bars installed on my Ordu OMP mechanical setup. I think finding the right BTA will be one of the challenges. Now all I really need is to find a decent wheel setup...


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kart17, why do you think finding the right BTA bottle will be a challenge. Seems like you can just throw a bottle cage on easily?


kart17 wrote:
I think finding the right BTA will be one of the challenges.
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bloodyshogun wrote:
kart17, why do you think finding the right BTA bottle will be a challenge. Seems like you can just throw a bottle cage on easily?


kart17 wrote:
I think finding the right BTA will be one of the challenges.

I liked my Tor Hans AeroZ and it wonā€™t fit. A cage fits fine there and thatā€™s what Iā€™ll run for the time being. I think one of the XLab / PD bottles will work. Just a comment observation. Right now I race short distance so hydration isnā€™t as big of a concern but when I eventually jump to 70.3 Iā€™ll need to work on it.
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First post. Longtime lurker.


AlphaOne on my Cervelo P2 with Di2




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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Nick,

I'm about to upgrade my Dimond to di2 and am contemplating upgrading from alpha x to alpha one when I do (mainly for when/if I go back to ERO or a wind tunnel).

A couple of questions. Is there a hiding place for the a junction in alpha one like on the alpha x? I see that there's a square looking space, but it looks like that may interfere with the front brake cable? I run the bare cable now.

Also, I run the back to back bottle cages on the alpha x. Your website says that if you want to do this on alpha one you can just bolt the cages on an go, but it looks like the front cage would be so far forward that the extensions wouldn't allow a forward facing bottle. Do you have any photos of what this looks like on alpha one? Also, if there's not enough room, can you face the dragonfly backwards to move the cages back? Or would that make it impossible to find extensions long enough?

Thanks,
Sean
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [robegan99] [ In reply to ]
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apparently this does not work for the 48" Felt IA. I gave everything over to my bike mechanic to put together and he couldn't fit the Alpha one on with the omega brake AT ALL and my original brake BARELY fits (the monopost trimmed flushed at a minimum) and the brake had to be a creatively rigged b/c none of the holes for the wiring lined up. Can't wait to see what magic he worked, but I'm so over having small bike problems with fitting things on it properly!
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [rinliz] [ In reply to ]
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Would the "no hanger back plate" for the Omega X solve your problem by chance?
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Not sure I get the bike back today and he did mention it but will have to really look at it.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [rinliz] [ In reply to ]
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Scratch my suggestion. Given where your brake cable exits, it may be difficult to impossible for you to get decent routing.
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Not sure I get the bike back today and he did mention it but will have to really look at it.
Based on your photos, one option would be to raise the Alpha One base bar a bit higher (but use standard round fork spacers), then lower the Monopost by the same amount (and again, trim it flush at the bottom). That would give a much easier path for the brake cable to take.

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Sean H wrote:
Is there a hiding place for the a junction in alpha one like on the alpha x?

Yes there is. If you look on the Alpha One FAQ page, we show how it all fits. It's at the bottom of the page. Note that you may need to shave off the little tabs on the underside of the Di2 box to make it easier to fit in.

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Also, I run the back to back bottle cages on the alpha x. Your website says that if you want to do this on alpha one you can just bolt the cages on an go, but it looks like the front cage would be so far forward that the extensions wouldn't allow a forward facing bottle. Do you have any photos of what this looks like on alpha one? Also, if there's not enough room, can you face the dragonfly backwards to move the cages back? Or would that make it impossible to find extensions long enough?
For double cages on Alpha X, we contemplate that you'd have one on top, one on bottom (like Jesse Thomas is fond of doing). I agree, end-to-end mounting probably wouldn't fit. And no, the Dragonfly cannot be mounted backwards unfortunately.

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Although now looking at Jesse Thomas' instagram, it looks like he DID mount end-to-end bottles on his Alpha One Dragonfly. Not sure exactly how that was set up. But apparently it can be done.

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Thanks. You may consider designing and selling an adapter rail that would bolt onto the existing mounting holes and then give a bunch more options for where the bottle is placed as well as the ability to do back to back bottles. Thereā€™s a gap for this in the market imo, and you could probably sell a decent chunk of them if they were universal across all sorts of different types of bars and hydration brackets.
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So got the bars on and despite all the bolts tightened down there was a little play in the arm rests. I moved the pads forward to the end of the holes to get to my ideal reach, and they are creaking like crazy with any shift in weight and it sounds like its going to snap at any second, kind like walking up old stairs. Has anyone else had this issue with excess play in the armrests and these awful sounds!? I checked and double checked all the bolts.
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rinliz wrote:
So got the bars on and despite all the bolts tightened down there was a little play in the arm rests. I moved the pads forward to the end of the holes to get to my ideal reach, and they are creaking like crazy with any shift in weight and it sounds like its going to snap at any second, kind like walking up old stairs. Has anyone else had this issue with excess play in the armrests and these awful sounds!? I checked and double checked all the bolts.
Sorry to hear you are having an issue with the bars!

A small amount of flex in the system is normal, and gets exaggerated when the bike is on a trainer, or when you alternatively place weight on only one arm cup or the other. On the road, this should be minimal. It can also be reduced with some carbon paste between the Monopost and Dragonfly. Regardless, we are currently working on a solution to minimize this flex, and it will be a free upgrade to anyone who has this issue.

However, if there is actual play where the Monopost is moving within its cavity in the Base Bar, that would be a different issue.

In either case, please shoot an email to support@tririg.com and we will go from there. Thanks!

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks! I sent an email and a short video. Hopefully you can see and hear the issue and it's an easy fix b/c they are the first bars and can length for the reach and the ability to get lower on. Plus they are comfortable :) And well, they are mine now since we had to shave the bottom to get my brake on!
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Sean H wrote:
Thanks. You may consider designing and selling an adapter rail that would bolt onto the existing mounting holes and then give a bunch more options for where the bottle is placed as well as the ability to do back to back bottles. Thereā€™s a gap for this in the market imo, and you could probably sell a decent chunk of them if they were universal across all sorts of different types of bars and hydration brackets.


If I understand what you're saying, I think it already exists in the bikepacking/touring/gravel world. Bolts into a normal two bolt mount, but has room to mount two bottle cages to it with loads of adjustability?


https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...and-accessory-device
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [dangle] [ In reply to ]
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Yes! Thank you!
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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So, a bit cryptic since I can't give out specific numbers, but this bar is aero testing very well. I've tested it a few times now, but with one athlete in particular. This athlete is a record holder at a few distances on the track and outdoors, and one of the most meticulous aero testers I've ever met whose spent many hours in the tunnel, velodrome, and VE testing. The Alpha One has been found to consistently test faster than a USE R1. This could be attributed to allowing the athlete's position to be attained more comfortably with the actual tilt of the arm pads and extensions vs. simply higher extensions to achieve the same hand position on the USE, but it's definitely faster, and that's not an easy bar to best.

Thought folks would like to know. I'm hoping to get some numbers I can release in the next few weeks.

Jim Manton / ERO Sports
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pgibbo wrote:
Hi All,

For those that have installed the Alpha, what are you using as a hydration solution. Also, what are you using to hold your Garmin?

I've mine installed and love it. Need to decide now on a hydration setup for long course and where/how to position the Garmin. Cheers.

P.


I have installed the Alpha One on my Shiv. I tried to use an XLAB Torpedo BTA (that i was using previously) mounting the cage in the dragonfly mounts rather then the XLAB versa I had previously used which required me to mount my Garmin using a standard aerobar mount. When the torpedo bottle was mounted in the cage it blocked the Garmin completely. I purchased the "Space Saver Computer Mount" from XLAB, but i felt it was sitting way to high on top of the torpedo and would be to much of an aero penalty.

I switched to a Profile Design "Aero HC" bottle and mount I had lying in the spare parts bin. It fits well, but the Garmin is a little farther back then I would like. Its not right under my eyes, but almost between the pads. I do like that the profile design is a little easier to clean then the torpedo. I have had only one ride so far, but it seemed to work well.

I may try to find the "Aero Computer Mount" that came with the torpedo https://www.xlab-usa.com/...-computer-mount.html and see if I can move the Garmin forward between wrists more, without being blocked by the bottle, but question if it will work.

Here are some shots of my setup before I changed to the Aero HC bottle.

Still have to secure the di2 wires to the monopost, to tidy up the front (done after pic) and trim the monopost (after receiving the new one and some more riding to make sure setup is dialed in)




















2016 Specialized Shiv Pro Race 1x
2015 Specialized Venge
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So got the bars on and despite all the bolts tightened down there was a little play in the arm rests. I moved the pads forward to the end of the holes to get to my ideal reach, and they are creaking like crazy with any shift in weight and it sounds like its going to snap at any second, kind like walking up old stairs. Has anyone else had this issue with excess play in the armrests and these awful sounds!? I checked and double checked all the bolts.

Had a bolt on my stem shear. Having the same issue on the dragonfly on one of my extensions and worried about the same thing... Was out test riding before my race tomorrow morning...
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I just had a bolt sheer as well. I'm pretty frustrated overall so far. Got the new post piece, which isn't really all that easy to just replace since I will now have to go back to a mechanic to cut it down for replacement (more $$! and time I don't have, which is awesome!) and I after some back and forth with their customer service about having to rig my set up on the small Felt I own and wanting to return the brake (asked twice) I bought with it since it will not fit my set up being that it's completely slammed and as far forward as possible (whole reason I bought it), their last reply was not how to return it, but replied with pictures of some guy posting his perfectly set up "what they believe is the same size IA" rig. Except I'm not so sure since the it sits up super high, not the same situation AT ALL. My brake would probably fit if I didn't have to slam down the front end. Still have the brake and very squeaky, aero pads with way more give than they should. Worst part is I think the position is decent and I like the pads, so hopefully, once I can find the time and a local mechanic to cut the new post, it will help with that and likely sell the brake second hand. But if you have a Felt IA 48" and need to slam down the front end and push the pads to the farthest out for positioning...I'm not sure I'd go through the hassle again.
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Jim@EROsports wrote:
So, a bit cryptic since I can't give out specific numbers, but this bar is aero testing very well.


Thanks for you continued freebie knowledge!

Just a pure self-interest question. Do you have a general idea where the HED Corsair bar falls in terms of the general taxonomy of aeroness? Great, good, OK, etc?
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No direct testing of the HED.

Jim Manton / ERO Sports
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [rinliz] [ In reply to ]
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Just circling back around on my trials with the Alpha One, finally got the new aluminum center piece on and a little carbon paste with it and NO creaking noise!! So. Much. Better. It is also a lot more stable. It was only a little over an hour on the ride, but I was riding hard and able to stay relaxed in the aero position vice tensed up terrified it was going to crack in half. Great fix. Thank you TriRig.
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So, what's the deal with shearing bolts? That seems really bad. Is it a hardware quality issue or something about the system design? Are you still riding the bar and what did you change, if anything?

My experience: On the positive side, the cable routing is fantastic. It is great when I'm doing Chung method testing to be able to quickly change pad height. The slammed mounting lets me pedestal my pads and get the nice low pursuit height that I like. They gave original customers a free upgraded monopost that is a better design without us even having to request it -- although it is arguable whether the original design was stiff enough to be a product.

On the negative: I also had some frustrations getting it to work on my Speed Concept 2.5 (the weird aluminum one). The bar interfered with the entry holes for my cables in the frame, and then the monopost interfered with the brake cable hanger because the brake didn't mount parallel to my fork and I didn't want to cut it. I'm not really dialed in with a new fit and I also do a range of events from 40k up to 12 hour TTs. The customer service interaction was prompt, but it usually took a round to get them to believe that my problem was actually happening and then another for them to point out that I could dremel my frame or buy a brake without hanger from them or cut the monopost and then buy a spare. I was a little bummed about the last one because they sent me the link to purchase a spare after they'd already announced the AL upgrade. If I'd blindly clicked on it, I might have wasted $100.

Lately, I've had screws coming loose that were torqued to spec -- both on the stem and monopost-to-dragonfly mount. The Dragonfly is also worn through a layer of carbon from rubbing underneath. I've put the aluminum monopost upgrade on and assume it will help stiffen the whole system and keep motion from loosening and wearing the dragonfly.

To the customer support person's credit, I originally sent him a picture with my brake pad holders assembled backwards, which demonstrated that I can be pretty bone-headed, and he was nice enough to point it out and save me from riding dangerous brakes.

Anyway, I'm very interested in the shearing bolts issue and what should be done to mitigate the risk of an unbolted handlebar. I'm not sure if I'd buy a Tririg bar again, but it is a really awesome design in some ways. It does demonstrate to me that spending (relatively) big money on my bike is not going to solve all my problem.s
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I wondering how people are getting on with their Alpha One. I am considering this as an upgrade for next year.
Also, I couldn't see any info on the stem angle. It looks -17 from the photos. Correct?
Thanks.
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DaveQB wrote:
Also, I couldn't see any info on the stem angle. It looks -17 from the photos. Correct?
Thanks.

Why would you need to know that? Tririg's site has bike model specific fit guide, which should be enough for assessing if you fit on your bar + bike combination.

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DaveQB wrote:
Also, I couldn't see any info on the stem angle. It looks -17 from the photos. Correct?
Thanks.


Why would you need to know that? Tririg's site has bike model specific fit guide, which should be enough for assessing if you fit on your bar + bike combination.

Ok I will give the long, background story.
I recently stripped a bolt on my felt basebase clamps. I was getting that fixed, but remembered I had a Profile Design setup. So I dusted them off. Quite like the clamp part design (pun not intended). I found it lowered the aerobar about 8-12mm when compared to the Felt setup. So I needed to buy spaces for that. Looking at the spacers, I figured it I am going to buy spacers, I might as well make the switch from a -6 stem to a -17 stem as well as I have been planning to do that one day. But in doing this, I thought I shouldn't go to -17 if the Alpha One is a -6 setup (higher bullhorns) as I will just come back up again in the near (I hope) future after getting used to a lower bullhorn placement.

Does that make sense?

PS I figured the Alpha One was a -17, so I went ahead with the change, buying a $44 -17 stem to test it out. Love it! Having the bullhorns that little bit lower means my hands press down on the grips rather than sliding forward trying to slip off the front. Much more comfortable when noodling around with friends.
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DaveQB wrote:
I wondering how people are getting on with their Alpha One. I am considering this as an upgrade for next year.
Also, I couldn't see any info on the stem angle. It looks -17 from the photos. Correct?
Thanks.

Bump, #metoo

Also, are people cutting the excess mono-post?
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Interesting that they still show a 4-6 lead time. Found that odd, considering not many people are weighing in on their purchase.
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Mike Alexander wrote:
Interesting that they still show a 4-6 lead time. Found that odd, considering not many people are weighing in on their purchase.
We have been consistently shipping Alpha One purchases all year. But unfortunately we haven't been able to catch up fast enough to have them in stock, so the 4-6 week estimate stays up there. Often, folks are getting them much faster than 4-6 weeks. Why they don't comment in this thread, I couldn't say. But we have gotten some customers sending us shots of their rigs, and we sometimes put them up on our facebook page. So far everyone is pretty much universally happy with the bars. We are really hoping to have some bars in stock before the end of the year.

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I ordered a set last week. I will update how long it took when I get them.

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Mike Alexander wrote:
Interesting that they still show a 4-6 lead time. Found that odd, considering not many people are weighing in on their purchase.
We have been consistently shipping Alpha One purchases all year. But unfortunately we haven't been able to catch up fast enough to have them in stock, so the 4-6 week estimate stays up there. Often, folks are getting them much faster than 4-6 weeks. Why they don't comment in this thread, I couldn't say. But we have gotten some customers sending us shots of their rigs, and we sometimes put them up on our facebook page. So far everyone is pretty much universally happy with the bars. We are really hoping to have some bars in stock before the end of the year.

Thanks for the response.
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Also, are people cutting the excess mono-post?


I had to since mine is pretty much slammed on my small 48 Felt. Wouldn't fit otherwise.
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My bars have been great! Mono post cut flush on my P5


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DaveQB wrote:
I wondering how people are getting on with their Alpha One. I am considering this as an upgrade for next year.
Also, I couldn't see any info on the stem angle. It looks -17 from the photos. Correct?
Thanks.


Bump, #metoo

Also, are people cutting the excess mono-post?

I've cut my monopost - no problems, and also I love the bar. Really great to be able to adjust in a few seconds during rides and experiment with different positions.

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Do you have any pictures of how you've set up the cabling on your P5? Especially interested to see how it goes from the stem into the frame. I have just ordered one for my P5.
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The GMAN wrote:
I ordered a set last week. I will update how long it took when I get them.

Cue TriRig frantically trying to find your order on the list and ship ASAP
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I ordered on the 12th and mine are to arrive today. BTW, I ordered the extensions and two brakes as well. Website still says 4-6 weeks so I'm pleasantly surprised.
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I'm probably a little biased as I thought this would be the best aero bar ever when I first saw the drawings a little over 1 year ago, but the Alpha One has lived up to my expectations and TriRig has definitely taken the under promise/over deliver route when it comes to getting bars out the door. All my clients who have them, love them. They couldn't be happier with the form, function, and quality of the build. There's also at least some data to indicate this is the most aero of aero bars.

These bars are going to allow me to offer a new fitting service, which I'll create a post on later today seeking the collective ST input/wisdom. I'm pretty excited about it to be honest.

Oh, and I've said it before and I'll say it again much to everyone's chagrin...this bar should cost more. $1500. I told Nick that from the get go. I think he knows he could sell it for more, but he chooses not to.

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Anyone have any pics of this on a Shiv? Also, anyone running SRAM.....where did you mount the blip box?
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Liaman wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
I ordered a set last week. I will update how long it took when I get them.

Cue TriRig frantically trying to find your order on the list and ship ASAP

Donā€™t think I didnā€™t have an alterior motive in mind when I posted that. :-)

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Have eTAP... only rear brake line needed but plenty of room for mechanical cables di2 etc too. I never used the 3T bars but packing this is easy. Torhans bento fits perfectly.
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Would be interested to see the brake cabling from stem to frame. I'm running Di2 but not worried about getting the Di2 cables run neatly.
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The GMAN wrote:
Liaman wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
I ordered a set last week. I will update how long it took when I get them.

Cue TriRig frantically trying to find your order on the list and ship ASAP

Donā€™t think I didnā€™t have an alterior motive in mind when I posted that. :-)
Thatā€™s it ... youā€™re bumped to the end of the queue.

Not that it matters. We have a batch going out today/tomorrow which should fulfill nearly every pending order. And we are hoping to have bars in stock for quick shipment be the middle of November.

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No worries, Nick.

Iā€™m having Reverse Bankart shoulder surgery next week so I wonā€™t be riding for a few months. :-)

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Thanks for the picture. Are you using the plastic pieces on top of the 'hole' in the top tube or not? I assume you're using the Magura brakes? I wonder how mechanical brakes would take that bend - though I guess it's pretty much the same bend I have now inside the Aduro stem.
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That piece is for strain and chafing relief. However I am not using it as it doesnā€™t really move much. I have considered looking for a 90deg coupler to refine the fit but that maybe a winter project.

Is a very clean setup and was getting a fair amount of attention while my bike was at the Ceramic Speed and Cervelo location at Kona.

Great upgrade for any P3/5
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There's a couple of open holes left then in the bottom? But I guess that doesn't matter much.

Anyway, it does seem to be a nice fit for the P5. Not sure it's much faster in itself than the Aduro, but it should allow more positions and definitely faster change of position which is great for testing purposes.
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No worries, Nick.

Iā€™m having Reverse Bankart shoulder surgery next week so I wonā€™t be riding for a few months. :-)
Best of luck with your surgery!

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scca_ita wrote:
Is a very clean setup and was getting a fair amount of attention while my bike was at the Ceramic Speed and Cervelo location at Kona. Great upgrade for any P3/5

Iā€™m interested in more pics of your setup. Thanks for sharing what youā€™ve already posted.

Scott
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Thanks for pics of th A1 on a P3.

If you donā€™t mind sharing, Iā€™m interested in your pad stack and frame size. Just trying to visualize the translation from your setup to mine.

Scott
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A really late response but customer service on Tririg's part was great and my bars/bike are back in order. Overall, I cannot say enough good things about the Alpha One in all honesty these should be standard equipment on bikes they are just that good!

Also, Jim looking forward to Missy helping me get dialed in on my Ordu in a few weeks at the PA location!
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Nick, I ordered mine on Saturday and since GMAN wont be needing his anytime soon feel free to bump me ahead of him, youd rather have your product in the public eye, right?
šŸ˜šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£
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Nick,

I'm *this close* to pulling the trigger on this baby. One question for you or the group-what are people doing with the e-tap blip box?

Thanks!
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Nick, I ordered mine on Saturday and since GMAN wont be needing his anytime soon feel free to bump me ahead of him, youd rather have your product in the public eye, right?
šŸ˜šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£
I think GMAN's already shipped. Regarding new/recent orders, I expect we will do better than the 4-6 week estimate. But that's all I'll say for now.

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Nick,

I'm *this close* to pulling the trigger on this baby. One question for you or the group-what are people doing with the e-tap blip box?

Thanks!
We had one customer tell us they managed to stuff it in the Alpha One cavity, with a minor DIY effort. Not sure what they did (perhaps file away some of the garmin-style mounting surface, which is just plastic). Right now we don't have a step-by-step guide for fitting it, but I may have to put that together.

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TriRig wrote:
eganski wrote:
Nick,

I'm *this close* to pulling the trigger on this baby. One question for you or the group-what are people doing with the e-tap blip box?

Thanks!

We had one customer tell us they managed to stuff it in the Alpha One cavity, with a minor DIY effort. Not sure what they did (perhaps file away some of the garmin-style mounting surface, which is just plastic). Right now we don't have a step-by-step guide for fitting it, but I may have to put that together.

If you do; and it works, I will buy one.
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Nick, I ordered mine on Saturday and since GMAN wont be needing his anytime soon feel free to bump me ahead of him, youd rather have your product in the public eye, right?
šŸ˜šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£

How dare you! ;-)

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Pad stack:650-660. That was the beauty of the A1 if the post is uncut you can increase and decrease stack at will. Frame size 54.

FYI that was my post from early this summer. Since then Iā€™ve switched to an Alpha X and I am setting at 652.
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Thanks! My pad stack is also 66, but on a size 58 P3. The difference in frame stack between a 58 and 54 is about 4cm.

If my math is right, Iā€™d eliminate the four stem spacers in your pic while leaving the monopost stack about the same. That visual is helpful.

Why did you move to the AX?

Scott
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TriRig wrote:
D.O. wrote:
Nick, I ordered mine on Saturday and since GMAN wont be needing his anytime soon feel free to bump me ahead of him, youd rather have your product in the public eye, right?
šŸ˜šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£
I think GMAN's already shipped. Regarding new/recent orders, I expect we will do better than the 4-6 week estimate. But that's all I'll say for now.

I received mine today. So order to receipt was less than two weeks.

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I switched for 2 reasons.

1) Was the creak. I ride mostly on a trainer and even with carbon paste it creaked quite a bit. On the road not as noticeable. Apparently with the new aluminum cradle this isn't an issue any more.

2) Ability to hide Di2 junction box. I couldn't fit my junction box in my particular bar. I ran the wires into my Torhans bento box and kept the junction box there with A1 bar. With the AlphaX a Di2 junction box fits easily within the bar. All you need to do is remove 3 screws and you have easy access to the box. I really like the esthetic of having a really clean no exposed extra wires setup I get with AX. First world problems.




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Kart 17, I am wondering how flush the Tririg Alpha One sits within the cut out of the Orbea. From the side, it looks almost flush.
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bloodyshogun wrote:
Kart 17, I am wondering how flush the Tririg Alpha One sits within the cut out of the Orbea. From the side, it looks almost flush.


Yes, it's very close to flush. See the picture below.[
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Perfect. Thanks. Been waiting too long to pull the trigger. It's long overdue.
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The GMAN wrote:
TriRig wrote:
D.O. wrote:
Nick, I ordered mine on Saturday and since GMAN wont be needing his anytime soon feel free to bump me ahead of him, youd rather have your product in the public eye, right?
šŸ˜šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£
I think GMAN's already shipped. Regarding new/recent orders, I expect we will do better than the 4-6 week estimate. But that's all I'll say for now.

I received mine today. So order to receipt was less than two weeks.

I'm curious, had you gotten any notification about your order shipping or being received? All I got was a paypal receipt for my order placed on the 15th.

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Tsunami wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
TriRig wrote:
D.O. wrote:
Nick, I ordered mine on Saturday and since GMAN wont be needing his anytime soon feel free to bump me ahead of him, youd rather have your product in the public eye, right?
šŸ˜šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£

I think GMAN's already shipped. Regarding new/recent orders, I expect we will do better than the 4-6 week estimate. But that's all I'll say for now.


I received mine today. So order to receipt was less than two weeks.


I'm curious, had you gotten any notification about your order shipping or being received? All I got was a paypal receipt for my order placed on the 15th.

No. They just showed up.

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The GMAN wrote:
Tsunami wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
TriRig wrote:
D.O. wrote:
Nick, I ordered mine on Saturday and since GMAN wont be needing his anytime soon feel free to bump me ahead of him, youd rather have your product in the public eye, right?
šŸ˜šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£

I think GMAN's already shipped. Regarding new/recent orders, I expect we will do better than the 4-6 week estimate. But that's all I'll say for now.


I received mine today. So order to receipt was less than two weeks.


I'm curious, had you gotten any notification about your order shipping or being received? All I got was a paypal receipt for my order placed on the 15th.

No. They just showed up.

Thanks. Based on seeing your post earlier, I ran home with a sence of excitement, imagining mine had been delivered as well. Alas...

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I take it back. I did get a notification via PayPal that it shipped and a USPS tracking number. I just never saw the email.

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I take it back. I did get a notification via PayPal that it shipped and a USPS tracking number. I just never saw the email.
Youā€™re always supposed to get an email with the tracking link, but sometimes people report it missing for whatever reason. When in doubt, you can always log into PayPal and check the transaction info. The tracking link populates in there the moment we ship.

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Order In!

DM sent,

Scott
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GreatScott wrote:
Thanks! My pad stack is also 66, but on a size 58 P3. The difference in frame stack between a 58 and 54 is about 4cm.


If my math is right, Iā€™d eliminate the four stem spacers in your pic while leaving the monopost stack about the same. That visual is helpful.

Why did you move to the AX?

Scott


This page on the TR site is your friend here
https://www.tririg.com/store.php?c=alphaone&page=fit

Just plug in your frame and size, plus your XY. It'l tell you exactly.

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GreatScott wrote:
Order In!

DM sent,

Scott
Thanks Scott!
We've been having issues with DMs here, please email us directly at support@tririg.com if you need any further assistance.

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Finally! We are delighted to announce that, as of this writing, Alpha One and Alpha X are finally IN STOCK for quick shipment. We are trying hard to keep the "in stock" status consistently, but sometimes rushes of orders happen and they go out of stock again. But if you want bars for a new build or an upcoming race, now is the time! http://www.tririg.com/AlphaOne



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I received the email letting me know mine are on the way, is a signature required?
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Our default shipping is without signature requirement. Thanks!

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Ordered up an Alpha One for the wife's new bike on Sunday and received a shipping notification on Monday!... that was a super awesome surprise :)

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I received the email letting me know mine are on the way, is a signature required?

what is your address? thanks
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Received my complete Alpha One pack this morning at the other side of the Atlantic.

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Guessing you send from the US? Trying to figure out what my cost would be including taxes to Sweden.

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Yes we ship from the USA. Please refer to http://www.tririg.com/policies for general information about shipping, taxes, etc. Thanks!

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2) Ability to hide Di2 junction box. I couldn't fit my junction box in my particular bar. I ran the wires into my Torhans bento box and kept the junction box there with A1 bar. With the AlphaX a Di2 junction box fits easily within the bar. All you need to do is remove 3 screws and you have easy access to the box. I really like the esthetic of having a really clean no exposed extra wires setup I get with AX. First world problems.

I'm looking to clean up the front end on my Cervelo NP3 with Di2 this winter, and this has me concerned. Does anyone have pictures of how the Di2 is placed with the Alpha One?
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You can do it. And have a clean set up. Some of the alpha one bars based on what other people have posted can fit DI2 boxes with/without some modification. I posted my bar with the alpha one and you can barely see the di2 wires but I taped them down under the stem cap and ran them into my bento box into the di2 box. If you blow up the photos you can see where I did this on my P2. Iā€™m sure there are some other creative things you can do but thatā€™s what I did.
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rexnebula wrote:
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2) Ability to hide Di2 junction box. I couldn't fit my junction box in my particular bar. I ran the wires into my Torhans bento box and kept the junction box there with A1 bar. With the AlphaX a Di2 junction box fits easily within the bar. All you need to do is remove 3 screws and you have easy access to the box. I really like the esthetic of having a really clean no exposed extra wires setup I get with AX. First world problems.

I'm looking to clean up the front end on my Cervelo NP3 with Di2 this winter, and this has me concerned. Does anyone have pictures of how the Di2 is placed with the Alpha One?
See the FAQ at TriRig.com/AlphaOne - we show pictures of a Di2 installation towards the bottom of the FAQ.

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Awesome, somehow I missed the FAQ under the "Tech" section. Looks good. Thanks also @OzTx3!
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Just bought one for my better half as chanukah present. Any reccomendations on how to get a xlab torpedo to work with the dragonfly?
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the xlab cage will literally just bolt on
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Just bought one for my better half as chanukah present. Any reccomendations on how to get a xlab torpedo to work with the dragonfly?
You just bolt the cage right on. It has M5 threads specifically for that kind of application.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Nick,

I have just got some Alpha one bar and they are slammed. Is it more aero to cut off the extra monopost that sits below the bar, or is there an advantage to the double wind foil of the monopost and headtube? FYI, it is one a P5.

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I doubt you'll see much of anything there, but I'll be aero testing that very thing in a few weeks and will report back.

A P5 + Alpha One = fast bike.

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Thanks Jim, I will be awaiting your report. The only issue I see is for us low and long riders and if we can I get to into our normal fast position on this setup. Also, if you plan to come back to the Springs let us know.

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Nick,

I have just got some Alpha one bar and they are slammed. Is it more aero to cut off the extra monopost that sits below the bar, or is there an advantage to the double wind foil of the monopost and headtube? FYI, it is one a P5.
The Monopost is very efficient, and I doubt youā€™d be able to measure any difference from cutting the portion ahead of your head tube. Moreover, itā€™s always nice to be able maintain the ability to make quick position changes.

So Iā€™d keep it.

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Just pulled the trigger on this for my P3. Already have omega X so looking for a good improvement in position and some aero.
Jim do you have results for the P3 with P5 fork? would there be any substantial gains? or just aero-coolness?

Thanks!
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [super_6] [ In reply to ]
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Here's a shot of the Alpha One mounted up to my wifes PRfive.



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Re: TriRig Alpha One [gregtay] [ In reply to ]
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Hi everyone.
How do you manage to hide junction box in the Alpha One ?
Hard to put 5 ports junction and wires... Any tips ?
Thanks

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AnthonyParis wrote:
Hi everyone.
How do you manage to hide junction box in the Alpha One ?
Hard to put 5 ports junction and wires... Any tips ?
Thanks

In theory you can, see: https://www.tririg.com/...lphaone&page=faq but I think individual results may vary. On my wife's QR (pink bike above) the 5 port is hidden in a cavity in the front section of the bento box, so all wires run to it and the wires just pass through the Alpha One. I am also swapping my Shiv from an Alpha X to an Alpha One and so far no luck with the 5 port fitting. I have an Omega brake and terminate the brake cable housing in the Alpha One cavity and run bare cable down to the brake which means the cable housing is 90 degrees vertical and that cable housing pretty much makes it impossible to fit the junction :-/. I had no issues with the Alpha X but the cavity was longer so the junction fit in front of the brake cable housing. I need to play around a but I might need to swap to the new bar end junction A and just put a 4 port B junction in the Alpha cavity. I'll keep you updated as I make progress.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [gregtay] [ In reply to ]
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One big help can be to cut off or file off the mounting tab on the back of the junction. Perfectly safe to do, and it gives you several extra mm of room.

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TriRig wrote:
One big help can be to cut off or file off the mounting tab on the back of the junction. Perfectly safe to do, and it gives you several extra mm of room.
Already done but Still very complicatedšŸ˜¬

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I haven't seen a ton of mechanical setups but those that I have generally have cabling run from extension end to top tube port via a gentle bend (out in the wind). Is that the preferred? I don't think Shimano or Jagwire is flexible enough to try and pull close to the back of the monopost and through the cap...maybe Alligator I-link? Even though...shifting would have to take a hit...right?
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I haven't seen a ton of mechanical setups but those that I have generally have cabling run from extension end to top tube port via a gentle bend (out in the wind). Is that the preferred? I don't think Shimano or Jagwire is flexible enough to try and pull close to the back of the monopost and through the cap...maybe Alligator I-link? Even though...shifting would have to take a hit...right?

How I prefer to do it (and how we set up Omni builds with SRAM 1x mechanical) - keep the shift housing OUTSIDE the extension. Hide it under bar tape, then after it exits the bar tape, it has a nice gentle path down, around the Monopost, and into the cable inlet at the front of the Cable Cover part. Virtually no extra frontal area exposed to the wind, excellent functionality, and this option makes it really easy to make adjustments to stack and tilt without binding the cable. Personally I think it looks better than your other suggested option (out the back of the extension), but if you're planning to make EXTREME changes to stack and tilt over time, this option potentially makes it a little easier to do so.

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How I prefer to do it (and how we set up Omni builds with SRAM 1x mechanical) - keep the shift housing OUTSIDE the extension. Hide it under bar tape, then after it exits the bar tape, it has a nice gentle path down, around the Monopost, and into the cable inlet at the front of the Cable Cover part. Virtually no extra frontal area exposed to the wind, excellent functionality, and this option makes it really easy to make adjustments to stack and tilt without binding the cable. Personally I think it looks better than your other suggested option (out the back of the extension), but if you're planning to make EXTREME changes to stack and tilt over time, this option potentially makes it a little easier to do so.


Any pictures? I'll be installing my Alpha One with mechanical shifting over the holidays.
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Any Aussies out there with an Alpha One or X able to let me know if your bars got held up at customs. Tracking says they left San Francisco on the 2nd of December but nothing since. Did customs chase you for GST?
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Any Aussies out there with an Alpha One or X able to let me know if your bars got held up at customs. Tracking says they left San Francisco on the 2nd of December but nothing since. Did customs chase you for GST?

Brisbane, here. My Alpha X came straight through, no worries. I have had wheels held up in the past, but nothing from TriRig.
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Hey Thread,

Do we have consensus on the cleanest way to mount a Garmin on the A1?

Scott
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Hey Thread,

Do we have consensus on the cleanest way to mount a Garmin on the A1?

Scott
There are lots of good ones. But I tend to recommend parts by Glen Alden: http://www.alden-carbon.com. His BTA mounts let you put the computer wherever you want, with a minimum of fuss. Or for a very elegant solution (but one that doesn't give you as much say where the computer goes), try his "Extended Computer Mount": https://www.alden-carbon.com/...nded-computer-mounts

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beston wrote:
TriRig wrote:

How I prefer to do it (and how we set up Omni builds with SRAM 1x mechanical) - keep the shift housing OUTSIDE the extension. Hide it under bar tape, then after it exits the bar tape, it has a nice gentle path down, around the Monopost, and into the cable inlet at the front of the Cable Cover part. Virtually no extra frontal area exposed to the wind, excellent functionality, and this option makes it really easy to make adjustments to stack and tilt without binding the cable. Personally I think it looks better than your other suggested option (out the back of the extension), but if you're planning to make EXTREME changes to stack and tilt over time, this option potentially makes it a little easier to do so.


Any pictures? I'll be installing my Alpha One with mechanical shifting over the holidays.

1. Thanks.
2. Ditto. I'm not finding anything examples on the site or via google image search.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [JASpencer] [ In reply to ]
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Working on photography for that this week. Once ready, it will show up on the "Installation" page of Alpha One. Stay tuned!

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JASpencer wrote:

Any pictures? I'll be installing my Alpha One with mechanical shifting over the holidays.

1. Thanks.
2. Ditto. I'm not finding anything examples on the site or via google image search.


Oh man, it was a bit of a challenge to run mechanical housing through the top cap/cover. It had me seriously considering if I should just pay up for Di2.

I hope the pictures are helpful and here's the process that worked for me.

1. Here's a shot with the Brake lines in place and the top cover off. That part went easy enough.



2. Trying to put the cover on with both mechanical gear cables/housing
- It's really hard to get the cable housing to stay inside the center notch....
- It's impossible to install the top cover and squeeze in both gear housing lines at the same time with the monopost in place.

My solution.
a. Take out the monopost
b. Run one gear housing first
c. Run the cable line from the other gear separately.



3. Feed the other gear housing through



4. Insert the monopost back in.



5. That's basically it. Here's a couple more images of the cables out the front and back. Notice that the gear cables are not routed through the bars (as Tririg suggested) I'll likely post a couple more pictures in better light/quality tomorrow to show the finished product. It seems like there's a lot of adjustablity in the monopost height with this set up.

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Here's a follow up to the installation with better pictures. As you can see, I can easily adjust the height an make full use of the monopost range. I clearly have to trim the monopost, but I'll wait until after I do a Retul fit.

I'm installing the alpha one on a Cervelo P2 frame. For those familiar with cable routing on these frames, you can see that I decided NOT to reinstall the cable port cap behind the stem. This is intentional as it would severely restrict movement of the cables and limit steering. I suppose the cover would be good to keep out rain, but it's not really relevant otherwise.

My extensions are set up within the UCI exemption limit as I mainly participate in TT's these days.








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beston wrote:
5. That's basically it. Here's a couple more images of the cables out the front and back. Notice that the gear cables are not routed through the bars (as Tririg suggested) I'll likely post a couple more pictures in better light/quality tomorrow to show the finished product. It seems like there's a lot of adjustablity in the monopost height with this set up.

Doesn't look like running the cables through the extensions would have hampered cable routing or cable drag, any reason why you didn't? Is it to facilitate Pad Y changes without having to re-cable every time? Will you be running the housing through the extensions once you decide on a pad height?

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Yep. I want to keep some stack adjustability for the time being.

I have tweaked my fit quite a bit over the last 10 years, on my own, and I'm at the point now that I'd like to see what a well respected fitter thinks/recommends. I also want to back that up with doing some Chung aero testing. So, I want to keep some adjustability for now.

I suppose I can route the housing through the bars when I'm all settled in, just for the sake of aesthetics.
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beston wrote:
I suppose I can route the housing through the bars when I'm all settled in, just for the sake of aesthetics.


That's the most important consideration! ;)

ETA: forgot to say sweet looking setup!

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [beston] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the pics!

Who makes that Garmin mount?

Scott
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Wow, thank you. Unfortunately you may have just sold me on di2 lol...
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JASpencer wrote:
Wow, thank you. Unfortunately you may have just sold me on di2 lol...

i hear you! ...I'm still considering Di2 myself!
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Thanks for the pics!

Who makes that Garmin mount?

Scott

That's a K edge Slpayd garmin mount. My integrated road handlebars use this mount type, and I had an extra lying around. You can also get carbon versions (not k-edge brand) from eBay or Aliexpress for cheaper (~$20)
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That's a K edge Slpayd garmin mount.
Great pictures of your setup! You beat us to the punch :-)

Regarding the Splayd mount, note that you should also be able to attach it on the underside of the Dragonfly, leaving the top surface of the Dragonfly available for bottle cages and the like.

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I'm sure you'd take better pictures. At least your workspace wouldn't be as ugly.

Thanks for the tip on the Splayd mount. I just installed it on the underside and it looks better (and maintains more functionality of the dragonfly mount.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Pictures are up, at the Alpha One Installation Page.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Surely, I'm not reading this correctly. Is the "dragonfly' with narrow arm cup mounts really an extra $759.99?


[inline screenshot-http://www.tririg.com-2018.12.18-15-12-01.png]
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I think the description in that screenshot explains why.
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I looked into making some custom parts for my Alpha One but the cost even with my connections to lots of prototype sources would still be high. I also wish I could get another 20mm less reach on the Alpha One Dragon Fly if Nick offered them.
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I get that, but I don't know if I'll ever get over the sticker shock of low volume/custom parts. I just think of how many weeks of rent that is.

The custom risers for my shiv were done pro bono by a friend but would have cost $550 if he charged me. After attempting to do anything with Autodesk, I recently got an estimate for an aero bar CAD based off some drawings of $3000 and a Ti printing was also estimated at $3000+, so even if I struggle to feel comfortable with the prices, I'm learning to understand them.
The name of the product contains a clue as to its origin and purpose. MVH stands for Molly Van Houweling, former hour record holder and a personal friend.

We developed that special dragonfly for her in her quest for speed, and (possibly) another hour record attempt. But in order to be fully-compliant with the UCI, all parts she uses are supposed to be commercially available to the consumer. Not all record attempts are made in compliance with that particular rule, but we wanted to comply. So we did produce a production batch of them, and as you can see they are in stock ready to ship. It was never meant as a profit center, or as an attractive upgrade. Just, it's available. And yes, it's hugely expensive to make.

We have no plans to develop additional custom Dragonfly mounts, just the one for a special rider and a good friend.

As far as getting less reach on the current Dragonfly ... stay tuned for our updated Ergo Cups, which will allow you to do just that.

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Thanks and I wasn't trying to be a jerk so I hope I didn't come off that way. Speaking of MVH, I just saw a great photo of her on the Lexus Velodrome and a very clean Alpha One set up. I couldn't quite figure out what was going on but I think that I've just seen the stars align. Congrats on another great product and who knows, maybe I'll have the cash soon enough to put some more of your products on my bikes.
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Ohio_Roadie wrote:
I get that, but I don't know if I'll ever get over the sticker shock of low volume/custom parts. I just think of how many weeks of rent that is.

The custom risers for my shiv were done pro bono by a friend but would have cost $550 if he charged me. After attempting to do anything with Autodesk, I recently got an estimate for an aero bar CAD based off some drawings of $3000 and a Ti printing was also estimated at $3000+, so even if I struggle to feel comfortable with the prices, I'm learning to understand them.
The name of the product contains a clue as to its origin and purpose. MVH stands for Molly Van Houweling, former hour record holder and a personal friend.

We developed that special dragonfly for her in her quest for speed, and (possibly) another hour record attempt. But in order to be fully-compliant with the UCI, all parts she uses are supposed to be commercially available to the consumer. Not all record attempts are made in compliance with that particular rule, but we wanted to comply. So we did produce a production batch of them, and as you can see they are in stock ready to ship. It was never meant as a profit center, or as an attractive upgrade. Just, it's available. And yes, it's hugely expensive to make.

We have no plans to develop additional custom Dragonfly mounts, just the one for a special rider and a good friend.

As far as getting less reach on the current Dragonfly ... stay tuned for our updated Ergo Cups, which will allow you to do just that.

Awesome canā€™t wait for the new Ergo cups then! Since Iā€™m not far off the perfect fit!
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Ohio_Roadie wrote:
I get that, but I don't know if I'll ever get over the sticker shock of low volume/custom parts. I just think of how many weeks of rent that is.

The custom risers for my shiv were done pro bono by a friend but would have cost $550 if he charged me. After attempting to do anything with Autodesk, I recently got an estimate for an aero bar CAD based off some drawings of $3000 and a Ti printing was also estimated at $3000+, so even if I struggle to feel comfortable with the prices, I'm learning to understand them.

Honestly I'm surprised a Ti printed custom aero bar wouldn't cost more. I'd expect to see these on bikes that run Lightweight Fernweg or Autobahn wheelsets
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [BigBoyND] [ In reply to ]
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Haha, just some more halo/dream bike gear that wonā€™t make it further than my dreams. However, thankfully, most TriRig gear doesnā€™t fall into that category. It just falls in the category that I should get my significant others approval before it goes on the credit card.
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Agreed but encouraged by it!

Downside would be if you needed to make any tweaks - $3k a pop.
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Question on tilt:

Does the Tilt Washer remain level while the Dragonfly tilts?
Or, should the Tilt Washer itself rotate (and remain flush with the Dragonfly)?

Scott
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GreatScott wrote:
Question on tilt:

Does the Tilt Washer remain level while the Dragonfly tilts?
Or, should the Tilt Washer itself rotate (and remain flush with the Dragonfly)?

Scott
The Tilt Washer remains level while the Dragonfly tilts.

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P2/P3 owners, have you used the small spacer to fill in the recess on the underside of the alpha one stem? Without it I feel like the stem is rubbing against the bottom race of the bearing.
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do you know of any ways to give a little upturn ot the brakes to give something to brace against when on the hoods instead of resting on the extensions.


Either a brake with some natural upturn or something maybe like the old felt tri grips? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
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Looking for a new bar for my Felt IA10 and debating between the Alpha One and ALpha X. Does anyone know if the Torhans 30 will work the Alpha One and sit relatively close to the head tube or does the bracket between the extensions force the bottle out quite a ways from the head tube making it inefficient? Based on the pictures on Tririg's website, it looks like it would not be a good setup and I'd be better to go with the Alpha X.
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MOPinCO wrote:
Does anyone know if the Torhans 30 will work the Alpha One and sit relatively close to the head tube or does the bracket between the extensions force the bottle out quite a ways from the head tube making it inefficient? Based on the pictures on Tririg's website, it looks like it would not be a good setup.
You're correct that a dropdown-type bottle like the TorHans 30 won't be a great fit on Alpha One. However, I wouldn't ditch Alpha One based on an aero bottle consideration. Alpha One is advantageous for other reasons - the quick-adjustment is incredible once you get a chance to use it.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Nick!

Does anyone have a pic of the Alpha One on an IA10/14/16?
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There are a couple on our Facebook page photos.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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This is my Canyon Speedmax CF year 2018, size XS, photos are showing images before and after installation of Alpha One and Omega X.

Hopefully with universal cover soon.

Badrul






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you're killing me with those two uncontrolled di2 wires
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Yeah I thought original set up looked better without all those Tririg spacers
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Work away the di2 cables and it looks really nice, but are you armpads as high or maybe even higher then your saddle or is that the angle of the camera?

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Work away the di2 cables and it looks really nice, but are you armpads as high or maybe even higher then your saddle or is that the angle of the camera?

Jeroen

I will figure out something in order to hide the Di2 cables.

You're right, the armpads are high, as I wanted to highlight the monopost in the image.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [badrul] [ In reply to ]
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Hi.

So bought a 2nd hand Alpha x (includes tilt & ergo cups) which is due to arrive in the next few days.

I now see the Alpha one has a 10% sale.

So has anybody experience with both types?

Building up a new Felt IA and have to say the Alpha one does look sweet on any builds I've seen.

Try sell off the Alpha x and pull trigger on the Alpha one or just hold onto the Alpha x? Alpha one worth the new extra $? Thanks
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2018 Cervelo P3 w hidden DI2 inside of stem (not bento)

Pic of the front end of bike
https://imgur.com/p8uYj5X

Pic of the back end of the TriRig-with black foam cutout to block out water
https://imgur.com/a/Lh9Fmr1


Pic of bike from front
https://imgur.com/a/kzjl6qQ


Pic of bike from side
https://imgur.com/a/Oyot15u


I do know that I love my Tri Rig Alpha One!
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Seems most of the gains to be had come from the adjustability, and speed of that adjustability. If you're already confident in your position you'll be good on the Alpha X.

The used market for the Alpha X is tough since they cut the price of the X. That being said I'd be glad to take them of your hands if you want.
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They have had 2 different 15% off sales recently so 10% is kind of just ho hum.....Also being seven weeks out I donā€™t think that 10% will entice many others to buy. The other savings with buying new is that you get cheaper price on the brakes as well.
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So turns out got a slot with a quality bike fitter in next 2 weeks. Wouldn't get alpha one on time so think I'll just stick with x for now.
Prefer the one cosmetically but once I get a proper fitting with the x suppose that's the most important thing.
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Just ordered the Tri Rig Alpha One aerobars for my 2019 Canyon Speedmax CF. Looking forward to receiving it (6-7 weeks) and installing to work in aero position changes while riding. Also got F/R Omega X brakes to round out the package.

Chi
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Ah but does the Alpha one fit the Felt IA models? with the intergrated front brake, i'd imagine the alpha one adjustable stem will foul this? has anyone had experience of this?
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I've been assuming I'd upgrade my Alpha X to Alpha One on my P5, but have been waiting for the Universal Brake Cover (UBC), since I'd prefer not to cut the monopost on the Alpha One and also won't be able to bear seeing the uncut monopost sticking out under my base bar.

The UBC was announced in May 2018, so we're over 7 months now. I have to wonder how long it takes to make a carbon brake cover?

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The one thing that I appreciate about nick is does not release anything till it is right. I own an Omni with alpha one and many of his parts. Everything works just like it is suppose to. The cover will come when it is perfect.
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Shiv with Etap build just completed:





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Very sharp!

Let food be thy medicine...
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Oh that is VERY nice. Beautiful work with the BlipBox too.

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Couldn't resist posting, huh? Nor, do I see, could you hold off cutting the mono-post! Lol.

Yeah, that's the cleanest Blip Box install I think I've seen. It's pretty well hidden. Beautiful bike, helmet to match. Looks great. Time to ERO Test!

Jim Manton / ERO Sports
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Couldn't resist posting, huh? Nor, do I see, could you hold off cutting the mono-post! Lol.

Yeah, that's the cleanest Blip Box install I think I've seen. It's pretty well hidden. Beautiful bike, helmet to match. Looks great. Time to ERO Test!

Lol... I couldn't help myself. After everything got trimmed down, she was just too pretty to keep hidden.

Can't wait to get out there and ERO test!

Thanks again Jim.
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Oh that is VERY nice. Beautiful work with the BlipBox too.

where *IS* it?

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I had to zoom in a lot, but itā€™s under the BTA in the 3rd photo.

Very nicely done.

Alex Arman

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I had to zoom in a lot, but itā€™s under the BTA in the 3rd photo.

Very nicely done.

That ruined everything for me. I don't like it anymore.
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trail wrote:
doublea334 wrote:
I had to zoom in a lot, but itā€™s under the BTA in the 3rd photo.

Very nicely done.

That ruined everything for me. I don't like it anymore.

Then youā€™re REAALLLYY not gonna like what I have to tell you about Santa Claus.....

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Jim@EROsports wrote:
that's the cleanest Blip Box install I think I've seen. It's pretty well hidden.
I've got a cleaner one to show off, tomorrow ;-) But I'll agree that's the cleanest EXTERNAL BlipBox install. The M5 threads on the dragonfly go all the way through, for mounting of parts above or below :-)

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TriRig wrote:
Jim@EROsports wrote:
that's the cleanest Blip Box install I think I've seen. It's pretty well hidden.
I've got a cleaner one to show off, tomorrow ;-) But I'll agree that's the cleanest EXTERNAL BlipBox install. The M5 threads on the dragonfly go all the way through, for mounting of parts above or below :-)

On a Shiv??

I'm still trying to think of ways to route it internally, so I'd be really interested in seeing it. Please keep us posted Nick!
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No, not on a Shiv. I have an Omni build to show off tomorrow.

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Anyone have any recommendations on how to run new brake lines and electronic shifter wires through the Alpha One aero bar? Its a tight fit!

Thanks!

Chi
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I built my own Omni alpha one up. The brake cable was fun a little tight but still pretty easy. Think I used a little Philā€™s grease on the brake cable housing. Also remember pre bending the cable housing to the curve.
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Nick, I need to cut my monopost. What's the best option?

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The GMAN wrote:
Nick, I need to cut my monopost. What's the best option?

I used a hacksaw with a 32tpi blade, and a cheap mitre box to help me get a straight cut. I then smoothed it out with a sanding attachment on a Dremel. I have pics (the red Felt IA16) in this and another thread. It came out great.
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The GMAN wrote:
Nick, I need to cut my monopost. What's the best option?


I used a hacksaw with a 32tpi blade, and a cheap mitre box to help me get a straight cut. I then smoothed it out with a sanding attachment on a Dremel. I have pics (the red Felt IA16) in this and another thread. It came out great.

I was eyeing your Felt today actually. I have etap aero group supposedly on the way and I was considering going with the Alpha One on my Felt IA16. Saw your bike first with a Google search that led me back to the ST. I am sure I will be looking at it some more before I decide. The Shiv pictures with the blip box under the aero bars was also very helpful.

Thanks for posting.
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robegan99 wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
Nick, I need to cut my monopost. What's the best option?


I used a hacksaw with a 32tpi blade, and a cheap mitre box to help me get a straight cut. I then smoothed it out with a sanding attachment on a Dremel. I have pics (the red Felt IA16) in this and another thread. It came out great.

The newer aluminum monopost and not the carbon one, right?

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The GMAN wrote:
The newer aluminum monopost and not the carbon one, right?

Yes, it's aluminum. Should be pretty easy to cut.
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The GMAN wrote:
robegan99 wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
Nick, I need to cut my monopost. What's the best option?


I used a hacksaw with a 32tpi blade, and a cheap mitre box to help me get a straight cut. I then smoothed it out with a sanding attachment on a Dremel. I have pics (the red Felt IA16) in this and another thread. It came out great.


The newer aluminum monopost and not the carbon one, right?

Yep, I actually still use the carbon one. But I have the aluminum, also trimmed in he same fashion.
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I second that. Very curious for the scaling.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [beston] [ In reply to ]
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Any issue with traveling with alpha one and mechanical?

Do you just take the whole stem assembly off the head tube?
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dcohen24 wrote:
Any issue with traveling with alpha one and mechanical?

Do you just take the whole stem assembly off the head tube?

I don't have much intention to pack my bike up for flying. Having said that;
If the basebars can stay attached to the bike, the extensions could easily be unattached to make the whole front end more compact.
If the basebars need to be removed, then you might run into more frustrations upon re-installation when trying to route the shift cable housing under the top cap. Tririg's instructions made it look easy, but I found it to be tricky. YMMV.
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Yikes.
Not a ringing endorsement.

Thinking taking the aero extensions off means I don't need to touch the shift cables.

That leaves the brake cables. I guess id need to figure out how to figure out how to unclip omega x brakes, or just need to leave enough play to pull the stem off the headset
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dcohen24 wrote:
Yikes.
Not a ringing endorsement.

Thinking taking the aero extensions off means I don't need to touch the shift cables.

That leaves the brake cables. I guess id need to figure out how to figure out how to unclip omega x brakes, or just need to leave enough play to pull the stem off the headset
Depending on the setup, it may be perfectly convenient to remove the bars without touching ANY cables. Feel free to email us with any specific questions, at support@tririg.com - happy to help! Thanks.

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Thanks nick.
It will be on a p3 with a pair of omega x brakes +mechanical shifters
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Thanks nick.
It will be on a p3 with a pair of omega x brakes +mechanical shifters
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but your intended use case is to leave the base bar on the bike, but remove extensions? In that case, for Alpha One, just remove the Dragonfly (the two vertical-address bolts that connect it to the Monopost) and swing the whole Dragonfly + Extensions + Shifters assembly to one side. They should be able to tuck out of the way with no issue at all. If that's not what you mean, please correct me. In any case, travel with Alpha One is easier than anything else on the market, bar none.

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Ok the guys that have alpha oneā€™s, traveling in a bike case is super simple. I flew to Kona using a Premier Tactical case. Base bar stays on. Front monopost bolt loosen. Detach the Di2 wires if you have them. Pull monopost and extensions out wrap separate......it is that simple
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [Mugen_EP] [ In reply to ]
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Iā€™m going to setup my Cannondale slice with etap and the alpha one. Can you send me some more details on how you mounted your blip box.

Thanks
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Iā€™m going to setup my Cannondale slice with etap and the alpha one. Can you send me some more details on how you mounted your blip box.

Thanks

+2 That bike looks great!!

I have the etap aero group with clics and have ordered the Alpha One with plans of setting up my Felt like this Shiv except for the BTA (using a Speedfil Z4). I thought it is interesting as well that the Omega X brake cable is not using a cable housing. Would like to know how the blip box is connected. Strong double sided tape or something different? I think I prefer this over trying to stuff it into the Calpac.

Also I do not see any other blips? I plan on just using the extension clics.
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how did you do that??

Eric

Mugen_EP wrote:
TriRig wrote:
Jim@EROsports wrote:
that's the cleanest Blip Box install I think I've seen. It's pretty well hidden.

I've got a cleaner one to show off, tomorrow ;-) But I'll agree that's the cleanest EXTERNAL BlipBox install. The M5 threads on the dragonfly go all the way through, for mounting of parts above or below :-)


On a Shiv??

I'm still trying to think of ways to route it internally, so I'd be really interested in seeing it. Please keep us posted Nick!

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Felt_Rider wrote:
FernandoD wrote:
Iā€™m going to setup my Cannondale slice with etap and the alpha one. Can you send me some more details on how you mounted your blip box.


Thanks


+2 That bike looks great!!

I have the etap aero group with clics and have ordered the Alpha One with plans of setting up my Felt like this Shiv except for the BTA (using a Speedfil Z4). I thought it is interesting as well that the Omega X brake cable is not using a cable housing. Would like to know how the blip box is connected. Strong double sided tape or something different? I think I prefer this over trying to stuff it into the Calpac.

Also I do not see any other blips? I plan on just using the extension clics.


The Blipbox has a built-in screw mount, which I'm utilizing. You can see it called out here in the manual, basically warning you not to screw further than 5mm deep.



I used a screw from the top down, going through the Dragonfly mount, but NOT using the threads on the Dragonfly. You can see the screw in this pic between the bottle cage screws. I was able to get it to sit flush with the Alden-Carbon mount and not interfere with the cage itself.



This is just an image from the front showing it tucked in nicely between the extensions.



View looking up at the Blipbox from underneath. Since the Blipbox is mounted upside down, the Clics need to cross over to the other side. I am not using any blips so I have the 2 plugs in place.



Any additional questions or pic requests, I'll try and answer as quickly as I can.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [Mugen_EP] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you for the detailed info and pictures. This is very helpful.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [dtoce] [ In reply to ]
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dtoce wrote:
2018 Cervelo P3 w hidden DI2 inside of stem (not bento)

Pic of the front end of bike
https://imgur.com/p8uYj5X

Just got my P2 back after having the alpha one installed, guy did a really neat job putting the di2 box under the bars (much like the blip box installs). Foolishly when I got home I thought Iā€™d just pop off the topcap & put the junction box in the cavity...

That was a few hours ago & Iā€™ve now resorted to putting it in a bento box.

Reading this thread it seems that Iā€™ll need to file the box down to get it in. But even if I go down that route Iā€™m not convinced I can squeeze everything in, it might be a trick of the photo, but your rear brake cable looks thinner than mine...

Would you mind taking a few pictures under the top cap? Iā€™d really like to see how the brake & di2 cables sit with respect to the junction box (above/below/left/right)

If anyone else has tips/tricks/photoā€™s please shout.
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sure Steve
I will do it tomorrow-having a bit of a time getting my breath after doing the 2nd Norseman race today.

I did the 10 am race too, along with a 3 mile w/u run before the first race, and ran a 1 hr run at my goal RP in between them.
Total of 10 miles R and 90 miles B today (*6 hrs)


Gonna eat now and rest...pics tomorrow, OK?
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Unacceptable ;-)

Very much appreciated, no rush.
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SteveM wrote:
Very much appreciated.



https://imgur.com/a/lV9hbbQ
pic of the top of the TriRig




pic of the open storage box with junction box (broken up to fit) inside

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [dtoce] [ In reply to ]
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That's lovely. Any particular reason you went for 3 stem spacers, instead of slamming the stem and putting the Monopost at 5 instead of 2? Looks like your pads are centered, and the 9mm or so of rearward pad movement shouldn't be a deal-breaker for slamming the stem. Of course, that's one advantage to the system - lots of different ways to set it up.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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To be honest, I didn't initially think about the various options. I just wanted it to mimic my prior setup and I like having my horns/stem a bit higher. Good to know that I can raise the monopost but I was uncertain about whether or not I was going to be able to get lower due to back issues and I told the shop to use the spacers. Of course, that was silly in retrospect. I do realize that I'm paying a bit of an added aero penalty for the additional spacers...I suspect it won't be too big a deal to remove the spacers, if necessary. Adjusting the cockpit is heavenly! I've really been able to play with my fit and tweak away all soreness. I just love that part of it. Future iterations of this should likely include a slightly larger space for electronic shifting junction boxes to avoid the need for them to be hidden elsewhere.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [dtoce] [ In reply to ]
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Ahh... the rear brake cable is over the top of the box..

Did you trim the tabs off the di2? I like the idea of putting it in a little plastic bag & the little bungs around the cap, very neat.
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SteveM wrote:
Ahh... the rear brake cable is over the top of the box..

Did you trim the tabs off the di2? I like the idea of putting it in a little plastic bag & the little bungs around the cap, very neat.


I put the junction box into two plastic bags to sort of protect the electronics. It's secured with elastic bands x 2. Takes a minute or two to push the wires down into the bottom and the brake to the top/right and get it settled in all nice 'n snug. Then the cover can go on. I got a rubber cut out at the top to place the front electronic cables and used the box that the tri rig came in to cut our a square box of black styrafoam to block out any water coming into the open space.

Major props to Cycling Concepts who had a few guys put their heads together to take on this project: including-Sondre, Calvin and Jonathan.



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I know there were trade offs in doing it this way. I wanted clean more than anything else. But it worked well. Everything is inside and I can use my bento box for an actual bento box.

I cannot see lights anymore and do not know the status of the battery/mode of shifting. I just make sure to charge it regularly and when I do I can always connect to the 'etube project' on line to make changes in the shifting algo.
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dtoce wrote:
SteveM wrote:
Ahh... the rear brake cable is over the top of the box..

Did you trim the tabs off the di2? I like the idea of putting it in a little plastic bag & the little bungs around the cap, very neat.


I put the junction box into two plastic bags to sort of protect the electronics.

Thanks for the extra photo's, I didn't realize quite how far you'd gone! I'd certainly want some plastic if I had to strip the junction box down to the PCB...

Currently mines in the bento, fine whilst it's on the trainer, but it does interfere with the steering.

The faq indicates that you can run bare front brake cable, that would certainly help get the box in.
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SteveM wrote:
Just got my P2 back after having the alpha one installed, guy did a really neat job putting the di2 box under the bars (much like the blip box installs). Foolishly when I got home I thought Iā€™d just pop off the topcap & put the junction box in the cavity...

That was a few hours ago & Iā€™ve now resorted to putting it in a bento box.

Reading this thread it seems that Iā€™ll need to file the box down to get it in. But even if I go down that route Iā€™m not convinced I can squeeze everything in

Well, you can put the two of us in the same boat. My LBS surprised me by saying they couldnā€™t get the junction box into the stem along with my hydraulic front brake cable. Iā€™m frustrated with an external installation.

I saw the option above about filing the box down and will consider that option. Where did you end up?

Anyone out there with other ideas on how to make it work?

Scott
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [GreatScott] [ In reply to ]
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I ordered a 3d printed external mount, once it arrives I'll take a photo or two.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [SteveM] [ In reply to ]
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Intrigued! Keep us posted.

Hey Thread; Iā€™m toying with the idea of making room in the stem cavity by routing the front cable directly into the basebar. That would require drilling an alternate entry. Anyone have thoughts on that?

Scott


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Re: TriRig Alpha One [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry if itā€™s already been covered but how much flex between the basebar and monopost is deemed ā€œacceptableā€? If I shift weight thereā€™s a small, but very noticeable movement from side to side...makes me pretty uncomfortable to be honest.
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Have you considered trying to install the EW-RS910 junction box in the end of one of the extensions? You need to get the cables in and out of the extensions somehow, but I guess it should be possible to do rather cleanly.
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MTM wrote:
Have you considered trying to install the EW-RS910 junction box in the end of one of the extensions? You need to get the cables in and out of the extensions somehow, but I guess it should be possible to do rather cleanly.

I think this is the way to go.

If the 4-way JC41 or JC40 with the back snapped off will fit in the cavity that'll connect the rear & two basebar wires.

Then with a y-split JC130 it should be possible to connect the 910 junction box & both extension shifters. I'm not sure if there's any requirement on where the short end of the JC130 would need to be though.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [MTM] [ In reply to ]
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I appreciate the thought, but unfortunately I donā€™t see how it would fit.

Very disappointed with the junction box cavity on the A1.

Scott
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [SteveM] [ In reply to ]
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I bit the bullet and used a dremel to file down my junction box today. With that modification, I was able to squeeze the box into the cavity. Itā€™s rather inelegant, with more squishing than I like, but it ā€œworksā€.

Scott

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [GreatScott] [ In reply to ]
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Congratulations on getting it in there. I'm guessing given the squishing that tightening the headset is a little tricky.

I'm still leaning towards dumping the 5-port for a bar end di2 box.
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Yes, Iā€™d prefer a more refined solution.

Walk me thorough your plan for the bar end Di2 box? I didnā€™t realize that was a different junction box when responding to MTM above.

Scott
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JASpencer wrote:
Sorry if itā€™s already been covered but how much flex between the basebar and monopost is deemed ā€œacceptableā€? If I shift weight thereā€™s a small, but very noticeable movement from side to side...makes me pretty uncomfortable to be honest.

I've noticed this a lot on the trainer. I don't mind it flexing a bit but I'll admit to being a bit nervous of what'll happen outside if I hit something with the front wheel.

I don't really want to test it but it bends enough for me to *think* I could snap it. I'm likely wrong, it's probably far too strong for me to snap, but I'd love to see a body weight dropped on one cup to indicate it's unlikely to give out.
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GreatScott wrote:
Yes, Iā€™d prefer a more refined solution.

Walk me thorough your plan for the bar end Di2 box? I didnā€™t realize that was a different junction box when responding to MTM above.

Scott

I believe the new 2-port box can be squeezed in the end of an aero bar. There's a couple of holes in the bottom of the aero bar so I can take a wire through there & back to the headset cavity.

That moves the di2 button & charging port to a far more accessible location but there's still 5 wires to connect.

A 4 way box + a y splitting cable should get it all connected & fit in the cavity with a lot more space. I just need to double check the dimensions of the 4 way box (& the cavity) before buying parts.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [SteveM] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, tell me if I have this right:

-insert EW-RS910 junction box into the back end of one extension
-connect 2x extension shifters to 1x EW-RS910 via JC-130 Y split cable
-connect JC-130, 2x basebar shifters and battery to 4-way JC41 or JC40 junction box in the stem cavity

Iā€™m new to Di2, so please be gentle.

Scott
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I have kind of the same setup instead I used another b-junction and short wires in place of the y-splitter. But as long as everything is plugged in, your solution should work.

The bar end A-junction is great for trimming the RD and for charging

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Patiently but anxiously waiting for my Alpha One.

I will wait until it comes, but does TriRig use the entire 6 to 7 weeks for shipping as noted on the order page?
Did any of you reach out to TriRig to get a status on shipment time?
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Yes, it did take the entire back order period to get the bars. I ordered my A1 back in December, waited the 6-7 weeks, got the three week delay email, and finally received the box in the mail right at 10 weeks. It was a tough waiting period, but I am super glad that I did. The bar looks awesome on my Shiv and the ergo pads/ gamma one extension combo is really comfortable.

To jump in on the Di2 installation convo: I used two JC-41s inside the stem cavity and mounted the 5-port EW90B under my saddle. I will say that I really had to jam all the wiring in under the stem cavity cover, but once it is tightened down it really makes no difference. This also allows me to access the charging port without having to pop open the stem cover.

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jpryder wrote:
Yes, it did take the entire back order period to get the bars. I ordered my A1 back in December, waited the 6-7 weeks, got the three week delay email, and finally received the box in the mail right at 10 weeks. It was a tough waiting period, but I am super glad that I did. The bar looks awesome on my Shiv and the ergo pads/ gamma one extension combo is really comfortable.

Good to know. I can wait, but as you say it is tough because I have the etap group in boxes at home and some other related upgrades waiting for the A1 to arrive. Meanwhile I can wait because the reality is that I am way behind on training/fitness and will be doing most of that on a dedicated trainer bike once I am clear of this work deadline.
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jpryder wrote:
To jump in on the Di2 installation convo: I used two JC-41s inside the stem cavity and mounted the 5-port EW90B under my saddle. I will say that I really had to jam all the wiring in under the stem cavity cover, but once it is tightened down it really makes no difference. This also allows me to access the charging port without having to pop open the stem cover.

You ran 4 wires from stem to saddle...? I fully understand and appreciate not shoving everything in the cavity and being able to access the charging port without removing the cover but that seems awfully excessive.
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SteveM wrote:
JASpencer wrote:
Sorry if itā€™s already been covered but how much flex between the basebar and monopost is deemed ā€œacceptableā€? If I shift weight thereā€™s a small, but very noticeable movement from side to side...makes me pretty uncomfortable to be honest.

I've noticed this a lot on the trainer. I don't mind it flexing a bit but I'll admit to being a bit nervous of what'll happen outside if I hit something with the front wheel.

I don't really want to test it but it bends enough for me to *think* I could snap it. I'm likely wrong, it's probably far too strong for me to snap, but I'd love to see a body weight dropped on one cup to indicate it's unlikely to give out.
Please shoot us an email to support@tririg.com with video of whatā€™s going on and we will be happy to help.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [JASpencer] [ In reply to ]
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4 wires to a pair of JC41 in the stem, one wire to EW90B under the saddle. I I think there is an extra JC41 somewhere else in the frame to connect Fr/Rr Derailleurs and battery (been a while since I wired the thing up).

Jon Ryder
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Callin' wrote:
I have kind of the same setup instead I used another b-junction and short wires in place of the y-splitter. But as long as everything is plugged in, your solution should work.

The bar end A-junction is great for trimming the RD and for charging

Can you explain this in a bit more detail? Iā€™m interested, but having trouble visualizing the connections.

Scott
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GreatScott wrote:
Callin' wrote:
I have kind of the same setup instead I used another b-junction and short wires in place of the y-splitter. But as long as everything is plugged in, your solution should work.

The bar end A-junction is great for trimming the RD and for charging

Can you explain this in a bit more detail? Iā€™m interested, but having trouble visualizing the connections.

Scott

Ok sure, I'll try to be descriptive. I have a Felt IA so just keep that in mind, though the principles are the same.

I have junction-A plugged into the back of one extension, and two junction-B boxes taped together that are behind the brake cover / nose cone. There is also a junction-B in the BB area that connects to the battery/RD/FD

The brake lever wires run to one of junction-B boxes (2 wires), so there are now 2 slots left in the first junction B.

One of TT shifters runs to the same first junction-B; so now there is one slot left.

The last slot has a wire going from itself to the second junction-B (all slots on the first are full now).

That second junction-B has a wire that runs from itself back to the junction-A, into one of its slots (so now the second junction-B has two slots left). The second TT shifter is plugged into the other junction-A slot (now the junction-A is full).

The wire from the BB area junction-B (that connect the FD and RD) runs up and plugs into one of slots on the second junction-B. That second junction b now has one unused slot that is empty.

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Thanks for the details.

Sure would be a lot easier if the stem cavity was 1cm deeper!

Scott
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Still waiting on my bars to arrive. I was under the impression that the JB, cables and brake cable would fit within the cavity albeit a tight fit?
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Tohan wrote:
Still waiting on my bars to arrive. I was under the impression that the JB, cables and brake cable would fit within the cavity albeit a tight fit?

I just installed mine and the junction doesn't fit. In fact, doesn't come close to fitting in there with the five Di2 wires attached and two brake cables running through there. I even dremeled the junction box to make it smaller. It would fit fine if it wasn't for those pesky brake cables but I guess we need brakes. Thankfully, I have a Dimond and I can just hide it in the beam but kind of disappointed the cavity isn't big enough.

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The GMAN wrote:
Tohan wrote:
Still waiting on my bars to arrive. I was under the impression that the JB, cables and brake cable would fit within the cavity albeit a tight fit?

I just installed mine and the junction doesn't fit. In fact, doesn't come close to fitting in there with the five Di2 wires attached and two brake cables running through there. I even dremeled the junction box to make it smaller. It would fit fine if it wasn't for those pesky brake cables but I guess we need brakes. Thankfully, I have a Dimond and I can just hide it in the beam but kind of disappointed the cavity isn't big enough.

Conceptual question. Is it possible to take 2 wires to 1 by putting the left extension shifter wire with the left pursuit shifter wire into a 3-holed A junction, repeat with another 3-holed A junction for the right side, keep the two 3-holed junctions in the flat base bar area ahead of the stem, then use a 3rd 3-holed A junction in the stem and get that to fit with the brake lines? Extra wires / extra parts and ceftainly not elegant. But possible?

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 In thinking about this for a while now, I think the simplest answer is going to be to come up with a rounded cover that allows for extra space having the junction box sit halfway in the cavity and stick up. As long as the junction box is under the cover, and the cover is smooth, there will be very little aero penalty.

All that has to happen is to design a new cover that allows for extra space underneath it rather than the relatively flat one that is there now. It would need to be about an inch taller and the designers would need to check ahead of time to make sure the junction box fits underneath it.

With this solution, there doesnā€™t need to be any real structural changes to the tri rig device itself.
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The GMAN wrote:
Tohan wrote:
Still waiting on my bars to arrive. I was under the impression that the JB, cables and brake cable would fit within the cavity albeit a tight fit?

I just installed mine and the junction doesn't fit. In fact, doesn't come close to fitting in there with the five Di2 wires attached and two brake cables running through there. I even dremeled the junction box to make it smaller. It would fit fine if it wasn't for those pesky brake cables but I guess we need brakes. Thankfully, I have a Dimond and I can just hide it in the beam but kind of disappointed the cavity isn't big enough.

Conceptual question. Is it possible to take 2 wires to 1 by putting the left extension shifter wire with the left pursuit shifter wire into a 3-holed A junction, repeat with another 3-holed A junction for the right side, keep the two 3-holed junctions in the flat base bar area ahead of the stem, then use a 3rd 3-holed A junction in the stem and get that to fit with the brake lines? Extra wires / extra parts and ceftainly not elegant. But possible?

Yes, that would work but the Di2 wires arenā€™t really the major problem, itā€™s the brake cable housing. Those two cables eat up a lot of real estate and you canā€™t really flex them and move them around. Iā€™d imagine I can mash everything in there and maybe get the cover on but a) I donā€™t want to kink the Di2 wires, and b) I need to access everything periodically to charge the Di2.

Daleā€™s solution is best. If the cover was about an inch taller this wouldnā€™t be an issue.

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Tohan wrote:
Still waiting on my bars to arrive. I was under the impression that the JB, cables and brake cable would fit within the cavity albeit a tight fit?

It really doesnā€™t fit, but you can make it work with some filing and squishing. See my post 360 for pics. Time will tell whether the squishing has consequences.

Scott
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ā€œDaleā€™s solution is best. If the cover was about an inch taller this wouldnā€™t be an issue.ā€œ

QFT.

Scott
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Bit disappointing if that is the case as in the faq it specifically states it fits with even the 5 port JB. Will see when I get it. My first thought if not was as one of the suggestions above to just make a larger cover. I know someone with a 3d printer so might see if he can knock something up.
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For sure it could be an easier fit. Our initial design didn't contemplate squishing the 5-port junction in. Once we had the final parts, we did a physical test (not always the same as measuring squirrely cables in CAD). Turns out, it DOES fit, although as mentioned by others, it needs to have the mounting tab filed down (this is a 1-minute job), and everything is a pretty tight squeeze in there.

The idea of a taller cable cover is definitely interesting. Of course, that would mean an all new design, and a new mold, which is neither quick nor cheap. Or a batch of CNC machined covers. Again, time and money. But it's something we will consider for sure. Of course, as the new round extension-mounted junction proliferates, this may become less and less of an issue.

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My first thought was to just make a larger cover. I know someone with a 3d printer so might see if he can knock something up.

Hey thread; I'll share the cost of a 3d printed cover if anyone has the skills and equipment to make it happen.

Scott
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ā€œOf course, as the new round extension-mounted junction proliferates, this may become less and less of an issue.ā€

The future is here:


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Thanks for the details.

Sure would be a lot easier if the stem cavity was 1cm deeper!

Scott

I'm not sure, but you may be able to fit the b-junction boxes within the 22mm extensions themselves (they are 15mm wide I believe). Would take some creativity and maybe filing them down, but it's potentially a solution.

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GreatScott wrote:
Thanks for the details.

Sure would be a lot easier if the stem cavity was 1cm deeper!

Scott


I'm not sure, but you may be able to fit the b-junction boxes within the 22mm extensions themselves (they are 15mm wide I believe). Would take some creativity and maybe filing them down, but it's potentially a solution.

FYI - they fit perfectly fine inside 3T aluminum extensions....I even fit an internal Di2 battery in there along with a JC41 b junction in one single extension on my setup (3T extensions....don't own any of the Tririg stuff....yet).
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Hmm, is this a new junction box? or are you referring to EW-RS910? EW-RS910 is designed to fit in to the end of road bars (23.8mm). So it'll some dremmeling and also requires finding ways to hide two more junction B boxes, which seems to bring us back to square one?


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Good points. This came up around post 365. I wasnā€™t able to visualize how to make it work for my setup and went with the squish.

Scott
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Callin' wrote:
GreatScott wrote:
Thanks for the details.

Sure would be a lot easier if the stem cavity was 1cm deeper!

Scott


I'm not sure, but you may be able to fit the b-junction boxes within the 22mm extensions themselves (they are 15mm wide I believe). Would take some creativity and maybe filing them down, but it's potentially a solution.

FYI - they fit perfectly fine inside 3T aluminum extensions....I even fit an internal Di2 battery in there along with a JC41 b junction in one single extension on my setup (3T extensions....don't own any of the Tririg stuff....yet).

Different extensions have different wall thickness, and therefore, different inner diameters. Aluminum extensions will generally have more room inside.
Iā€™ve fit a b-junction in the 51 Speedshop extensions. And also have got a di2 battery inside a Profile Design aluminum.

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Tohan wrote:
My first thought was to just make a larger cover. I know someone with a 3d printer so might see if he can knock something up.


Hey thread; I'll share the cost of a 3d printed cover if anyone has the skills and equipment to make it happen.

Scott

Unfortunately it's not just about the shape. Material will be important too. This is a structural part because it acts as your top cap, so it needs to be able to take the force required to preload the headset. 3D printed plastic is not going to cut it. 3D printed metal, maybe.

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Thanks for the heads-up incase I actually forged down that route ha.

Was wondering it might not be a huge problem for me anyway seeing I run a single chainring with one shifter from the extension and if you just run the front brake with no outer then it should free up enough real estate inside. Granted I'm saying this without actually seeing it yet.
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Unfortunately your proposed setup won't really change the equation as far as the bars are concerned, unless you use that new extension-based junction. But again, if you file down the tab on the back of the junction, it will squeeze in there.

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that's probably going away when they release their tilt version, apples to apples with TriRig.

GreatScott wrote:
ā€œOf course, as the new round extension-mounted junction proliferates, this may become less and less of an issue.ā€

The future is here:

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that's probably going away when they release their tilt version, apples to apples with TriRig.

GreatScott wrote:
ā€œOf course, as the new round extension-mounted junction proliferates, this may become less and less of an issue.ā€

The future is here:
Well, our bar still has the stem cavity ;-)

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TriRig wrote:
GreatScott wrote:
Tohan wrote:
My first thought was to just make a larger cover. I know someone with a 3d printer so might see if he can knock something up.


Hey thread; I'll share the cost of a 3d printed cover if anyone has the skills and equipment to make it happen.

Scott


Unfortunately it's not just about the shape. Material will be important too. This is a structural part because it acts as your top cap, so it needs to be able to take the force required to preload the headset. 3D printed plastic is not going to cut it. 3D printed metal, maybe.


FYI - there are 3D printers for composite structural grade materials. I've seen a large industrial sized one a a 3D printer show a number of years back that printed an entire "electric" car during the show from scratch. The surface finish was horrible but both functional along with structural. The "car" was the sized of a large go-kart/small dune buggy in reality.
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Well of course. But most folks are going to go for the cheapest plastic Shapeways makes. So Iā€™m just providing fair warning :-)

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Still waiting on my bars to arrive. I was under the impression that the JB, cables and brake cable would fit within the cavity albeit a tight fit?

Me too and I saw on the TriRig FB page this morning from them posting that a new shipment is coming soon.
Let's hope they put ours in the mail very soon.
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Literally just got my email that they cleared customs and are being delivered today. Guess I know what i'll be doing this weekend now.
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Very good!!
I did not get an email (yet). I hope they haven't forgotten me.
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I have kind of the same setup instead I used another b-junction and short wires in place of the y-splitter. But as long as everything is plugged in, your solution should work.

The bar end A-junction is great for trimming the RD and for charging

How did you secure the RS910 in the end of the bar? Some bar tape & just wedging it in?

I've got a little further with my install, by removing the tab from a JC40:



& sanding it down



I can now easily pop it in the front:



or rear of the cavity:



I'm likely going to go with the rear + a y-split 130, just need to figure out how to secure the bar end junction box.

Cheers,
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Into my bar end? Just stuck it in; itā€™s a little loose but not so bad if you donā€™t pick at it. A couple wraps of electrical tape would likely do the trick.

I see youā€™re using the old school b-junction. The newer ones are much smaller and can be hidden within your extensions. Not sure of your budget but keep that in mind

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Into my bar end? Just stuck it in; itā€™s a little loose but not so bad if you donā€™t pick at it. A couple wraps of electrical tape would likely do the trick.

I see youā€™re using the old school b-junction. The newer ones are much smaller and can be hidden within your extensions. Not sure of your budget but keep that in mind

Magic, thankyou.

Yeah I got an internal JC41 to play with too, whist I could get it in the cavity itā€™s a little more awkward than having all 4 ports facing the same way. Could stick it in an extension, but then iā€™d need to run 3 cables up the back of the monopole.
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JASpencer wrote:
Sorry if itā€™s already been covered but how much flex between the basebar and monopost is deemed ā€œacceptableā€? If I shift weight thereā€™s a small, but very noticeable movement from side to side...makes me pretty uncomfortable to be honest.

I've noticed this a lot on the trainer. I don't mind it flexing a bit but I'll admit to being a bit nervous of what'll happen outside if I hit something with the front wheel.

I don't really want to test it but it bends enough for me to *think* I could snap it. I'm likely wrong, it's probably far too strong for me to snap, but I'd love to see a body weight dropped on one cup to indicate it's unlikely to give out.
Please shoot us an email to support@tririg.com with video of whatā€™s going on and we will be happy to help.

I did attempt to make a video but it wasnā€™t particularly good (needed more hands).

Either way I found out a couple of things. *most* of the flex is actually the cups, at the far end theyā€™ll flex by just under a centimeter with a reasonable squeeze. Honestly Iā€™m less concerned with the flex knowing itā€™s coming from the cups rather than from the pole.

A few days later I noticed that the pole had dropped ~0.5 cm over 3 weeks. Iā€™ve moved it back up & tourqued it to spec & it feels a little more stable. Given the monopost touque spec is different to the other bolts itā€™s possible that it was installed a little loose. I assume the pole isnā€™t supposed to slip after 3 weeks of trainer rides?
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Installed properly, the Monopost should never slip, no. Always happy to help you troubleshoot if you want to send us an email. Thanks!

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Thank you for updating us on your install. Looks clean, much better than squishing the 5 port junction into the cavity.

Can you spec the comments for me? Iā€™m having a bit of trouble piecing it together.

Scott
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TriRig wrote:
SteveM wrote:
JASpencer wrote:
Sorry if itā€™s already been covered but how much flex between the basebar and monopost is deemed ā€œacceptableā€? If I shift weight thereā€™s a small, but very noticeable movement from side to side...makes me pretty uncomfortable to be honest.

I've noticed this a lot on the trainer. I don't mind it flexing a bit but I'll admit to being a bit nervous of what'll happen outside if I hit something with the front wheel.

I don't really want to test it but it bends enough for me to *think* I could snap it. I'm likely wrong, it's probably far too strong for me to snap, but I'd love to see a body weight dropped on one cup to indicate it's unlikely to give out.
Please shoot us an email to support@tririg.com with video of whatā€™s going on and we will be happy to help.

I did attempt to make a video but it wasnā€™t particularly good (needed more hands).

Either way I found out a couple of things. *most* of the flex is actually the cups, at the far end theyā€™ll flex by just under a centimeter with a reasonable squeeze. Honestly Iā€™m less concerned with the flex knowing itā€™s coming from the cups rather than from the pole.

A few days later I noticed that the pole had dropped ~0.5 cm over 3 weeks. Iā€™ve moved it back up & tourqued it to spec & it feels a little more stable. Given the monopost touque spec is different to the other bolts itā€™s possible that it was installed a little loose. I assume the pole isnā€™t supposed to slip after 3 weeks of trainer rides?

I had an identical experience.
Scott
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Nick,

I'm about to upgrade my Dimond to di2 and am contemplating upgrading from alpha x to alpha one when I do (mainly for when/if I go back to ERO or a wind tunnel).

A couple of questions. Is there a hiding place for the a junction in alpha one like on the alpha x? I see that there's a square looking space, but it looks like that may interfere with the front brake cable? I run the bare cable now.

Also, I run the back to back bottle cages on the alpha x. Your website says that if you want to do this on alpha one you can just bolt the cages on an go, but it looks like the front cage would be so far forward that the extensions wouldn't allow a forward facing bottle. Do you have any photos of what this looks like on alpha one? Also, if there's not enough room, can you face the dragonfly backwards to move the cages back? Or would that make it impossible to find extensions long enough?

Thanks,
Sean

Concerning back to back:
I considered the Alpha One also because it looks nicer and is maybe more aero than my current selfmade setup:


However, the bottles are indeed too much forward if you use the existing holes in the Alpha One. I would have to use my aluminium self made bar again and mount this instead of the fork-cap of the Alpha One at the back side and on the existing threads on the front side. The whole nice look of the Alpha One would be disturbed.

I have furthermore a Campagnolo junction box (now clamped to the left of the stem) which I do not want to hide because it has an LED which shows the battery charge.

If there would be a workable stock possibility for two inline BTAs (you would need a threadhole at the position of the tilt-clamp) I could consider the Alpha One-> especially when it would come with the Universal Cover. But not for now.
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Get the wolf tooth component b-rad (3 version). It works perfectly on alpha one from what I understand.
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Get the wolf tooth component b-rad (3 version). It works perfectly on alpha one from what I understand.


Yeah, that got my bottle mounted.

Only caveat is where I've got it mounted means I can't tilt the bar.


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Get the wolf tooth component b-rad (3 version). It works perfectly on alpha one from what I understand.


Yeah, that got my bottle mounted.

Only caveat is where I've got it mounted means I can't tilt the bar.
We went through the same thing with Matt Russell, who wants to do the same thing (he already has the B-Rad). If you put some spacers between the B-Rad and the Dragonfly, you can get enough clearance to avoid the tilt hardware.

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SteveM wrote:
Sean H wrote:
Get the wolf tooth component b-rad (3 version). It works perfectly on alpha one from what I understand.


Yeah, that got my bottle mounted.

Only caveat is where I've got it mounted means I can't tilt the bar.

We went through the same thing with Matt Russell, who wants to do the same thing (he already has the B-Rad). If you put some spacers between the B-Rad and the Dragonfly, you can get enough clearance to avoid the tilt hardware.

Yeah, I'm not currently tilting mine but I did realize that raising the brad 3 or using a brad-2 (with the bottle slightly further forward) could work:



nb. It's a little hard to see the tilt screws above as I covered them with electrical tape.
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Yes, Iā€™d prefer a more refined solution.

Walk me thorough your plan for the bar end Di2 box? I didnā€™t realize that was a different junction box when responding to MTM above.

Scott


I believe the new 2-port box can be squeezed in the end of an aero bar. There's a couple of holes in the bottom of the aero bar so I can take a wire through there & back to the headset cavity.

That moves the di2 button & charging port to a far more accessible location but there's still 5 wires to connect.

A 4 way box + a y splitting cable should get it all connected & fit in the cavity with a lot more space. I just need to double check the dimensions of the 4 way box (& the cavity) before buying parts.

How are you planning to route the cable connecting the second extension shifter to the RS910 bar end junction in the primary extension?
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Not entirely sure yet, depends on where the splitter ends up (I'd prefer to put it in the cavity rather than the extension)
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How are you planning to route the cable connecting the second extension shifter to the RS910 bar end junction in the primary extension?

I'm not 100% done, but it's coming together nicely.

The smallest y-split cable (EW-JC130-SS) will connect to both brakes & leave the little 50mm cable in the cavity:



I'd suggest routing the smaller wire first as you'll need to push the splitting part down the basebar a little to get the connector out the end. nb. I also needed to pull the brake cables back (past the curve in the bar) to get the di2 down there.

With that done I could install my reduced SM-JC40 & hook up all the cables:


Side view:



At the moment the bar end box (EW-RS910) is in a bento & connects the JC-40 & the rear end cable.

Final step (next week) I'll pop the RS910 in the back of one of the aero-bars & finalize the routing.
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Chapeau! Much cleaner.

Thanks for the explanation and pics. Iā€™m ordering the parts so I can follow your lead.

Scott
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Did you drill a hole on the dragon fly?
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Did you drill a hole on the dragon fly?

No, the dragonfly holes go all the way through. No modifications were needed.
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Got the final part done, putting the 2-port into the extension.

It needed two wraps of black tape around the junction box to secure it inside & you'll need to install the extension before the junction box (can't wedge the di2 cable through the holder). ie:



Once the box was wedge into the extension I wrapped some more black tape around the outside & voila:



Install complete.

The only thing that now interferes with tightening the top cap is the rear brake cable. However with this setup I can be sure that I'm tightening the cap against the stem rather than against the old 5-port junction box. Plus I can get to the charging port & button for trimming nice & easily.
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Great work! Thanks for sharing your install.

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Well done. I shared your work with my LBS, asked them to order the parts and replicate the setup.

Iā€™m impressed by your meticulous approach; taking your time with each step to get the job done right. Thanks for sharing the results with us.

Scott
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Mine's in progress modeled after the Shiv etap a few pages back. Pictures
Decided to put another Omega X on the rear and ordered a few more things so maybe next weekend it will be ready.
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Mine's in progress modeled after the Shiv etap a few pages back.
Pictures
Decided to put another Omega X on the rear and ordered a few more things so maybe next weekend it will be ready.


That's pretty much how the LBS installed the 5-port di2 junction, before heading down the path of the 2-port install I was going to replace the zip ties with this:

https://www.shapeways.com/...ip?optionId=55952960
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Installed properly, the Monopost should never slip, no. Always happy to help you troubleshoot if you want to send us an email. Thanks!

Just as a note, since I've tightened the Monopost up to spec it's not budged at all & it does feel a lot more secure.
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Alpha One - Not for just competitors :-)

Just about have everything set for the season(s) ahead. I just need a long ride or two before I trim the mono post. Other than a lot of chain noise (etap needs to be dialed in and chain needs new wax) at the end of a test ride yesterday which included an impromptu race of sorts I was really pleased with the Alpha One bars. Most pleasing was the cleanliness compared to the stock mechanical cables that were an absolute mess and was a constant irritation to my mental issues. :-)

Yep, I could have stuck the blip box in the Calpac and the clics I ordered were the longer cables, but with it below the BTA mount I am content as I don't see it and not competing it's not too big a deal. The Speedfil Z4 / Garmin does sit above my forearms, but it puts the display in a perfect spot for me. Between the Garmin and Blipbox catching a little air it is worth the slight penalty.

The bike felt great. I am a happy customer. Also added another TriRig Omega X to the rear brake.

A few more pics here


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Quick question for you comparing the Alpha X to Alpha One . . . I have the Alpha X and use the tilt hardware. Is the minimum stack on the Alpha One lower/same/higher than the Alpha X in this configuration? That is, assuming I am not going to use the undermount hardware on the Alpha X (which I don't know if the tilt works with that anyway), just comparing Alpha One to Alpha X w/ tilt and no spacers anywhere.

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Yes, Alpha One does go about 25mm lower than the lowest Alpha X overmount. You can see this on the respective fit guides for each bar.

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@ryryrocco, I went through all 18 pages of this thread but I don't believe anyone asked you: Did you get a 5 port junction box to fit inside the basebar cavity? How did you do it? I'm considering the same setup (Di2 Shiv + Alpha One) but it seems a few people are having trouble hiding the junction box.

ryryrocco wrote:
pgibbo wrote:
Hi All,

For those that have installed the Alpha, what are you using as a hydration solution. Also, what are you using to hold your Garmin?

I've mine installed and love it. Need to decide now on a hydration setup for long course and where/how to position the Garmin. Cheers.

P.


I have installed the Alpha One on my Shiv. I tried to use an XLAB Torpedo BTA (that i was using previously) mounting the cage in the dragonfly mounts rather then the XLAB versa I had previously used which required me to mount my Garmin using a standard aerobar mount. When the torpedo bottle was mounted in the cage it blocked the Garmin completely. I purchased the "Space Saver Computer Mount" from XLAB, but i felt it was sitting way to high on top of the torpedo and would be to much of an aero penalty.

I switched to a Profile Design "Aero HC" bottle and mount I had lying in the spare parts bin. It fits well, but the Garmin is a little farther back then I would like. Its not right under my eyes, but almost between the pads. I do like that the profile design is a little easier to clean then the torpedo. I have had only one ride so far, but it seemed to work well.

I may try to find the "Aero Computer Mount" that came with the torpedo https://www.xlab-usa.com/...-computer-mount.html and see if I can move the Garmin forward between wrists more, without being blocked by the bottle, but question if it will work.

Here are some shots of my setup before I changed to the Aero HC bottle.

Still have to secure the di2 wires to the monopost, to tidy up the front (done after pic) and trim the monopost (after receiving the new one and some more riding to make sure setup is dialed in)


















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Opinion question:

How long or how many rides would you put in before feeling confident enough to trim the excess mono post?

I was thinking a couple months with at least a couple 100 mile routes. I set up as close as I could to the original fit and did a short test ride (30 miles). Just a bit skittish on cutting off the excess post. I have no events and at the moment I am just trying to get in base endurance.
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How skittish are you about paying $84.99 (currently $76.49 with 10% discount) for a replacement monopost? Because that's your worst case if you cut the post and regret the decision.

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That is one of the nice attributes of being able to get another if I screw it up. Hope I donā€™t need to.
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Opinion question:

How long or how many rides would you put in before feeling confident enough to trim the excess mono post?
My opinion - don't trim it. I get that aesthetically, it's nicer without the post. But from an aero perspective, the weighted-average drag of the post is only about 4g. We will have lots more information about this and related topics soon, once we officially launch the universal cover.

Moreover, if your bike is compatible with the universal cover, then just put the cover on and then you definitely wouldn't need to trim. And you'd get the added aero benefit of the cover itself. Again, lots of good data coming, soon.

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Thank you very much for this information. At 55 I am actually fitted more aggressively than my previous bike. If donā€™t trim it and I don't age well I can raise it. Great to know thereā€™s not much aero penalty.
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@ryryrocco, I went through all 18 pages of this thread but I don't believe anyone asked you: Did you get a 5 port junction box to fit inside the basebar cavity? How did you do it? I'm considering the same setup (Di2 Shiv + Alpha One) but it seems a few people are having trouble hiding the junction box.

ryryrocco wrote:
pgibbo wrote:
Hi All,

For those that have installed the Alpha, what are you using as a hydration solution. Also, what are you using to hold your Garmin?

I've mine installed and love it. Need to decide now on a hydration setup for long course and where/how to position the Garmin. Cheers.

P.


I have installed the Alpha One on my Shiv. I tried to use an XLAB Torpedo BTA (that i was using previously) mounting the cage in the dragonfly mounts rather then the XLAB versa I had previously used which required me to mount my Garmin using a standard aerobar mount. When the torpedo bottle was mounted in the cage it blocked the Garmin completely. I purchased the "Space Saver Computer Mount" from XLAB, but i felt it was sitting way to high on top of the torpedo and would be to much of an aero penalty.

I switched to a Profile Design "Aero HC" bottle and mount I had lying in the spare parts bin. It fits well, but the Garmin is a little farther back then I would like. Its not right under my eyes, but almost between the pads. I do like that the profile design is a little easier to clean then the torpedo. I have had only one ride so far, but it seemed to work well.

I may try to find the "Aero Computer Mount" that came with the torpedo https://www.xlab-usa.com/...-computer-mount.html and see if I can move the Garmin forward between wrists more, without being blocked by the bottle, but question if it will work.

Here are some shots of my setup before I changed to the Aero HC bottle.

Still have to secure the di2 wires to the monopost, to tidy up the front (done after pic) and trim the monopost (after receiving the new one and some more riding to make sure setup is dialed in)














We have twins... Rocket Red Shivs are the best:). In my case the junction box is in the frame in the front-most area in front of the bladder (accessed via the cover for the hydration bladder) I also have the option when I don't have the bladder in there (which I only use on race days) to Velcro (industrial stuff) the junction box to the bottom of the blank hydration cover. I put a 4 port junction in the Alpha One just to pull the wires from the shifters (one shifter if wired direct bypassing the 4 port... since it is just a 4 port.) Love the Alpha One!







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gregtay wrote:

We have twins... Rocket Red Shivs are the best:). In my case the junction box is in the frame in the front-most area in front of the bladder (accessed via the cover for the hydration bladder) I also have the option when I don't have the bladder in there (which I only use on race days) to Velcro (industrial stuff) the junction box to the bottom of the blank hydration cover. I put a 4 port junction in the Alpha One just to pull the wires from the shifters (one shifter if wired direct bypassing the 4 port... since it is just a 4 port.) Love the Alpha One!


One thing I will add on Hydration - I was running the Alpha X w/ the Xlab Versa with the carbon plate trimmed down so it was just an narrow extension up to the computer mount (direct mounted on top, so not using an straps, etc.) When I switched to the Alpha One the mounting holes were much further forward and it put my bottle/computer up into my hands. So I ended up modifying it to make it sit further back. Basically I used the front screw for the cage (that goes through the carbon plate) if the rear most hole on the Alpha One. Then I drilled a new hole in the carbon plate further forward to align with one of the forward mounting holes on the Alpha One. Last problem to solve was the cage now only being held on by a screw in the front hole. I was able to find a super short/shallow nylon screw with a low clearance backing nut (similar to chain ring bolts) and this worked perfectly :) I also added a little double sided tape under everything. Raced Oceanside a few weeks ago and the set up worked perfectly.. super solid, no rattling, etc. That was the only thing I could come up with to still run the Xlab which I have had really had good luck with. I can try to get a few close ups of the set up if someone is interested.

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Hello,

Do you have any suggestions for expanding the pad width of the A1 to 245mm?

Scott
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TriRig wrote:
Felt_Rider wrote:
Opinion question:

How long or how many rides would you put in before feeling confident enough to trim the excess mono post?

My opinion - don't trim it. I get that aesthetically, it's nicer without the post. But from an aero perspective, the weighted-average drag of the post is only about 4g. We will have lots more information about this and related topics soon, once we officially launch the universal cover.

Moreover, if your bike is compatible with the universal cover, then just put the cover on and then you definitely wouldn't need to trim. And you'd get the added aero benefit of the cover itself. Again, lots of good data coming, soon.

I had to trim mine because anything lower than 4 (and I have it at like 1) hit the brake cover on my Dimond.

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The GMAN wrote:
TriRig wrote:
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I had to trim mine because anything lower than 4 (and I have it at like 1) hit the brake cover on my Dimond.
Yeah, that's a very legit reason to trim. And that's another reason we keep extras on hand at all times, and sell them as close to our cost as we can.

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Did you have to modify the bolt you used in any way? Length? Grinding the head to have it sit flush in dragonfly hole? Do you recall the bolt size? I think it is an M3 and about 1.75cm might be about the right length but not sure. Did you place anything extra between the blip box and the underside of the dragonfly (like rubber)?
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I used a S.S. M4x16 Button Head with no modifications and nothing between the blip box and Dragonfly. The length was perfect and it is tight enough.
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Hello. I see from the Parts Breakdown page for these bars that there should be M6 x 12 mm countersunk screws for the ergo cups. My mechanic says he can't find them, so I wonder if anyone can tell me where in the box they should have been? I'm wondering if they are shoved between foam pads and he can't find them, or...?

Thank you.

ETA the bolts have been located. They must have fallen out onto the floor or something while unpacking the box.

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They should be in a labeled bag, sometimes tucked under other parts or the foam. Please shoot us an email at support@tririg.com if you need further assistance. Thanks!

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gregtay wrote:
Here's a shot of the Alpha One mounted up to my wifes PRfive.


Hey, I wonder if anyone on the shorter end has ever cut the pursuit bar ends to bring the brake lever in a little closer? I picked your post since it's about a build for a woman. [ETA this question is no longer relevent.]

And for anyone keeping tabs, my mechanic worked for awhile to file down the 5 port A box I'd already purchased and concluded this was not the best path to continue on. I know there's discussion in later pages about the road bar end thingie working in an aluminum extension. Anyone ever conclude whether it'll fit in the TriRig ones?

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Any info on whether I can use this bar on a felt ia disc?
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Thanks for the detailed breakdown!!

I like the idea of the EW-RS910 for easy access to charging, etc.

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Hi Nick,

Whatā€™s the latest on the universal cover? Will it be available this season?

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I can't see any reason that use of Alpha One on the IA Disc would be any different from the previous IA models. So in short, yes I think it should work, but cannot guarantee it. Maybe some existing IA owners can chime in.

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Just succeeded to get my Alpha One installed on my Cervelo P3. It was a bit of a challenge with the brake cables, but by following this excellent forum made life a lot easier. The Alpha One bar feels great, everything (almost) fits in the cavity, the jagwire brake hoses take up some space and the 5 port di2 junction box gets really squeezed..so for the moment I decided throw it into the Bento box. Everything looks smooth though from Alpha One stem to bento so I'm not unhappy about it. I might cut the monopost in the future, we'll see.

Conclusion - the bike got a huge facelift. Legs did not get faster but the bike is :)!


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Cool! I also got my bike back today but need to buy an alternate Di2 solution as I don't have an integreated bento (Slice) and the pic of my 5-port velcro'd to to the bar top would probably make everyone sad.

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Do we have a rough ETA on the tririg skewers? Will they be out this year?
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Should be ready in June.

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Hi, I need help, posted here for maximum potential input. It goes like this.

2015 Slice. I used to be able to hold / push the bike by the saddle and it would stand / roll along easily. Now that the bars have been changed the front end is terribly floppy, and the edge of the TriRig brake *slams* into my headtube and has unfortunately already chipped my new paint job. This can't continue.

* Can anyone provide input here on how to make the new bar setup less floppy?

Next issue. I got the TriRig extensions, and I have the 2-button bar end shifters (Di2). Due to the bends in the bars and the length of the shifters, I can't get the buttons as close to my hands as I want unless I only put my elbow tips on the pads and my forearms are angled up and my wrists down to the shifters. I don't like this, and wrist angle is one of the things that needed fixing with the bike's stock extension setup. (I don't like my forearm off the pad or the angle of my wrist to the shifters.)

I see 3 solutions and would like input on these:
1) cut the bars below the 2nd bend, making the shifters stick up to the sky (instead of forward and up).
2) swap out to the 1-button shifters which seem shorter in overall length. (I can't return the 2-button ones as too much time has passed, would have to try to sell them).
3) try to find alternate extensions with a diffterent angle at the first bend so I can achieve the desired overall length and angle. But I have no idea what alternate extensions to buy and the highly shortened TriRig extensions would be a total loss.

(I'll try to get the picture of my bars to load, though frankly don't understand how to do so from a mobile device).



ETA, please ignore the zip tie install of the Garmin mount as it is a temporary solution, as is the deck mounted junction box & snarl of wires.

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Now that the bars have been changed the front end is terribly floppy, and the edge of the TriRig brake *slams* into my downtube and has unfortunately already chipped my new paint job. This can't continue.

That may simply be a difference in how your headset was preloaded. If it was stiffer before, the preload was probably causing drag in the bearings. You could tighten the preload to get closer to that, at the potential expense of shorter bearing life.

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Next issue. I can't get the buttons as close to my hands as I want.

I see 3 solutions and would like input on these:
1) cut the bars below the 2nd bend, making the shifters stick up to the sky (instead of forward and up).
2) swap out to the 1-button shifters which seem shorter in overall length. (I can't return the 2-button ones as too much time has passed, would have to try to sell them).
3) try to find alternate extensions with a diffterent angle at the first bend so I can achieve the desired overall length and angle. But I have no idea what alternate extensions to buy and the highly shortened TriRig extensions would be a total loss.

Solution 1 is not recommended - the inner diameter of Gamma One is not controlled past the first bend, so you might not be able to insert your shifter again. You'll have a hard time finding a double-bend extension that meets your requirements. The first design input was to make that area as short as possible while achieving 75mm of rise in a double bend. So you would most likely need to switch to a single bend, with an angle of 40-degrees or more.

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* Can anyone provide input here on how to make the new bar setup less floppy?

My guess is that your cables were restricting movement before. The only viable solution I can think of is to put bumpers on your frame.
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My TriRig Alpha One is also very 'floppy'. As Rruff mentions it's likely due to no restriction from the cables. I've put a small piece of gaffa tape on each side of the head tube where the Omega X hits it, but would also like a better solution if someone comes up with one. After transport one needs to be aware of the Omega X still being centered as knocking it against the frame can sometimes cause it to lose alignment.
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Thanks for your response. I'll try slicing nalgene tubing and taping that along the brake mounting plate. It won't be pretty but is an easy to implement interim solution.

But on cables adding restriction - sure they limited the handlebar range of motion when the bike was assembled, however while packing the bike for travel, with stem on but bars and front brake removed, the rotational / pivot movement of the fork was smooth but not as loose as it currently is. I get the weight of the current assembly vs the partly unassembled structure above is different and could add to a different feel, however my feeling is the rotation used to feel more solid. I was actually wondering if the stock trapezoidal cone stem spacer was the thing initially providing the friction I'm missing, that is gone since it's replacement with 2 of the TR aero spacers.

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TriRig wrote:
Tsunami wrote:
Now that the bars have been changed the front end is terribly floppy, and the edge of the TriRig brake *slams* into my downtube and has unfortunately already chipped my new paint job. This can't continue.

That may simply be a difference in how your headset was preloaded. If it was stiffer before, the preload was probably causing drag in the bearings. You could tighten the preload to get closer to that, at the potential expense of shorter bearing life.


Here's my confusion. We couldn't use my original headset expansion bolt assembly (see p16 in this pdf), so this one has been installed instead (https://d1vfu4m1fkicia.cloudfront.net/...tW/FSPXFBUMK2_P1.jpg)

We didn't know how stable the aero stem cap would be to tightening down on that for a preload (it's carbon, right? not aluminum?). The mechanic grabbed another cap to use to pre-load, then tightened the stem bolts, then changed out that temp cap for the aero one. But I didn't get given the cap he used to do the preload and I can't use the Slice original one b/c if I grab the cone spacer to make the cap be high enough to not hit the top of the now used headset, the bolt I have isn't long enough to engage the expansion bolt.

Go easy on me, I'm a little out of my element here. Is there some other way to set the preload? Do I just need to get the cap that maybe came with this headset?

Advice? Thanks!!

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I think, given the similar experience of other users, the idea that it's about cable routing is more likely the cause. So maybe don't mess with the headset. However, you can use the Alpha One's cable cover for headset preload. It's rated to keep its shape past 6-7 Nm of torque, which should be more than enough to preload a headset.

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Thank you. I appreciate your input.

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... and the edge of the TriRig brake *slams* into my downtube and has unfortunately already chipped my new paint job. This can't continue.

Next issue.
3) try to find alternate extensions with a diffterent angle at the first bend so I can achieve the desired overall length and angle. But I have no idea what alternate extensions to buy and the highly shortened TriRig extensions would be a total loss.

For the headset: Your issue could be easily fixed with those thin headset dust cap shims (NOT STEM SPACERS). The 0.25mm thick metal shims that sit between the headset bearings and dust cover and will give you the clearance you need.

For the extensions. Yep, it sucks to buy new extensions, but it sounds like the current extension aren't for you. ). You'd be far better off to go with cheaper alloy j-bends than to (PD t4+, 3T, Vision, Tula) than to struggle with an expensive carbon bar that will never feel right.
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@gregtay sorry for the delayed response.

The 5 port junction fits in the cavity. It doesn't fully go into the cavity but the space created by the top plate creates enough room. In the below picture I simply removed the cover. Everything sticks out of the cavity a little, but the cover fits without any issue. It doesn't feel like I am squishing the cables when i put on the cover. There is just enough room. Note: you must take care to make sure the screw doesn't clamp down the wires that lead into the stem, they have to be spread a little.




Nice looking bike :)

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@gregtay can you please post an image of your hydration system mods? I would like to try that. Thanks

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any reason why you didn't "slam that stem" and use the mono-riser to bring up to proper stack?


Tsunami wrote:
Hi, I need help, posted here for maximum potential input. It goes like this.

2015 Slice. I used to be able to hold / push the bike by the saddle and it would stand / roll along easily. Now that the bars have been changed the front end is terribly floppy, and the edge of the TriRig brake *slams* into my downtube and has unfortunately already chipped my new paint job. This can't continue.

* Can anyone provide input here on how to make the new bar setup less floppy?

Next issue. I got the TriRig extensions, and I have the 2-button bar end shifters (Di2). Due to the bends in the bars and the length of the shifters, I can't get the buttons as close to my hands as I want unless I only put my elbow tips on the pads and my forearms are angled up and my wrists down to the shifters. I don't like this, and wrist angle is one of the things that needed fixing with the bike's stock extension setup. (I don't like my forearm off the pad or the angle of my wrist to the shifters.)

I see 3 solutions and would like input on these:
1) cut the bars below the 2nd bend, making the shifters stick up to the sky (instead of forward and up).
2) swap out to the 1-button shifters which seem shorter in overall length. (I can't return the 2-button ones as too much time has passed, would have to try to sell them).
3) try to find alternate extensions with a diffterent angle at the first bend so I can achieve the desired overall length and angle. But I have no idea what alternate extensions to buy and the highly shortened TriRig extensions would be a total loss.

(I'll try to get the picture of my bars to load, though frankly don't understand how to do so from a mobile device).



ETA, please ignore the zip tie install of the Garmin mount as it is a temporary solution, as is the deck mounted junction box & snarl of wires.

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@gregtay sorry for the delayed response.

The 5 port junction fits in the cavity. It doesn't fully go into the cavity but the space created by the top plate creates enough room. In the below picture I simply removed the cover. Everything sticks out of the cavity a little, but the cover fits without any issue. It doesn't feel like I am squishing the cables when i put on the cover. There is just enough room. Note: you must take care to make sure the screw doesn't clamp down the wires that lead into the stem, they have to be spread a little.




Nice looking bike :)


Aaaaargh - just last night I ordered additional parts to work around the "no way the 5-port goes in" position my mechanic and I had come to. Waahhhhh.

But thank you for the photographic evidence. It should be quite helpful to others.

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any reason why you didn't "slam that stem" and use the mono-riser to bring up to proper stack?

Not sure of his answer but my guess is the steerer tube. I also had to put two spacers underneath in order to put the stem cap on and my steerer tube is cut pretty low. My mono is almost slammed. It's on 1.

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Aaaaargh - just last night I ordered additional parts to work around the "no way the 5-port goes in" position my mechanic and I had come to. Waahhhhh.

But thank you for the photographic evidence. It should be quite helpful to others.
We have had similar "photographic evidence" on the Alpha One FAQ page for over a year: https://www.tririg.com/...lphaone&page=faq (bottom of page)

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Tsunami wrote:
ryryrocco wrote:
@gregtay sorry for the delayed response.

The 5 port junction fits in the cavity. It doesn't fully go into the cavity but the space created by the top plate creates enough room. In the below picture I simply removed the cover. Everything sticks out of the cavity a little, but the cover fits without any issue. It doesn't feel like I am squishing the cables when i put on the cover. There is just enough room. Note: you must take care to make sure the screw doesn't clamp down the wires that lead into the stem, they have to be spread a little.




Nice looking bike :)


Aaaaargh - just last night I ordered additional parts to work around the "no way the 5-port goes in" position my mechanic and I had come to. Waahhhhh.

But thank you for the photographic evidence. It should be quite helpful to others.

I still think you went down the right path. I played with getting the 5 port in there and with the brake cable housing terminating in the bottom of the cavity you really run into issues. Possible? Maybe, but it is going to be a challenge every time you have to get the the 5 port and put it back in place.

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@gregtay can you please post an image of your hydration system mods? I would like to try that. Thanks

I will grab some photos today.

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ericMPro wrote:
any reason why you didn't "slam that stem" and use the mono-riser to bring up to proper stack?


Short answer: afraid to.
Longer answer:
  • I had assumed Iā€™d need to use the stock cone-shaped headset cap based on my risk adverse interpretation of owners manuals and supplements.
  • My mechanic installed the aero spacers to mimic the use of the stock head cap. This seemed like a good compromise since I was nervous about over-committing with my first ever steer tube cut.
But the pic is already out-of-date:
  • While investigating how to resolve my handle bar/ fork rotational issue, I observed that the red rubber seal on the upper headset bearing was visible between the frame and the aero spacer. It didnā€™t appear either the spacer or the shim that was in there were protecting the bearing from potential ingress of environmental dirt / water.
  • I reinstalled the stock headset cone. This part is 5-10 mm taller than the two aero spacers were, and the resulting lessening of slack to the rear brake line has suitably helped with my rotational concern. (The brake edge can still hit the frame, but now it takes purposely turning the bars that far.)
Still to come:
  • Iā€™d like to reinstall the trailing aero stem cap but need a new threaded insert. When the prior build was disassembled, this part was removed by screwing it off the frame, leaving behind the thread insert above the top tube, attached through the frame by a bolt accessed from the bottom of the headtube. My LBS didnā€™t understand what he was looking at or how to get it off, and the paintersā€™ interpretation was that the threaded insert had pulled out of the top tube; so he ā€œrepaired itā€. Can anyone tell me how to buy a new threaded insert of the right size type? I hope that small part is easier to replace than it would be to order a new aero stem cap part from a supplier in Europe.
Ps: Has anyone ever repaired chips in their painted carbon with nail polish? Iā€™m pretty bummed by the number of blemishes this newly painted frame has already.

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Aaaaargh - just last night I ordered additional parts to work around the "no way the 5-port goes in" position my mechanic and I had come to. Waahhhhh.

But thank you for the photographic evidence. It should be quite helpful to others.

We have had similar "photographic evidence" on the Alpha One FAQ page for over a year: https://www.tririg.com/...lphaone&page=faq (bottom of page)


Yes, you do. And I saw that. But I didn't understand what I was seeing. I thought it was like an instructional diagram, showing where the item is placed and I took it to mean the 5-port would lie within that cavity. I didn't understand that the extra "headspace" provided by the aero covering was how the 5-port was actually accommodated, until this morning.

My mechanic initially said the rear brake cable couldnā€™t be run through the handle bars, because the aero stem cap wouldnā€™t go on with the brake line in there. He hadnā€™t seen the alpha 1 before and I was sending him screen shots of brake lines coming out the back gap, and relayed that others had filed the 5-port to get it to fit. In the end he removed the barrel adjuster (!) and routed a new brake line through the bars, but neither of us understood there was enough room under the curve of the TR cap to let the 5-port fit. He gave me the bike with the 5-port attached by velcro on top of the installed cap.

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@gregtay sorry for the delayed response.

The 5 port junction fits in the cavity. It doesn't fully go into the cavity but the space created by the top plate creates enough room. In the below picture I simply removed the cover. Everything sticks out of the cavity a little, but the cover fits without any issue. It doesn't feel like I am squishing the cables when i put on the cover. There is just enough room. Note: you must take care to make sure the screw doesn't clamp down the wires that lead into the stem, they have to be spread a little.




Nice looking bike :)



Aaaaargh - just last night I ordered additional parts to work around the "no way the 5-port goes in" position my mechanic and I had come to. Waahhhhh.

But thank you for the photographic evidence. It should be quite helpful to others.


I still think you went down the right path. I played with getting the 5 port in there and with the brake cable housing terminating in the bottom of the cavity you really run into issues. Possible? Maybe, but it is going to be a challenge every time you have to get the the 5 port and put it back in place.

FYI the 5-port goes back in without issue. I have taken it out several times to charge.

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I'm guessing you're running full housing to the front brake?

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yes

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ryryrocco wrote:
@gregtay can you please post an image of your hydration system mods? I would like to try that. Thanks

I will grab some photos today.
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I'm considering buying an Alpha One for use on the track (4K IP). I'm just concerned that it might not be quite as stiff as some other options out there. I remember the comment about extensions play made by the BikeRadar reviewer. I'm not very heavy (Low 70s in kg), nor very powerful (1200W / 1 sec peak power). The UCI 80 cm rule will force me to run pretty short extensions as well. The only real reason for my concern is that I'll be riding it on a short and bumpy 190 m track with unusually steep banking.

Have any fellow Slowtwitchers tested the Alpha One for endurance track events? Would love to hear how it have worked for you!

Thanks in advance!
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Well, I'm personally not a track cyclist, but Molly Van Houweling (former UCI hour record holder) recently switched to Alpha One, and she and her husband (her "preparer" as Slowman would say) are extremely particular about what they use.

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gregtay wrote:
ryryrocco wrote:
@gregtay can you please post an image of your hydration system mods? I would like to try that. Thanks


I will grab some photos today.

Bump for hydration pics


Hope this helps. I cut down a carbon Xlab Versa (cut the sides off), drilled a new hole in the mounting plate further forward and used that hole and the original "forward" hole to mount the Versa to the BTA mounts on the Alpha. Then I needed to find a way to secure the rear of the cage to the Versa so I made a very low profile nylon nut/screw work (cut it down a bit) The nylon screw is covered by black tape in the photos (the tape is just there to stop spilled sticky stuff from seeping down under the cage.) I will try to get another photo with the tape off. This rear screw is really just keeping the cage centered, it doesn't need to be something super strong. I also have double sided foam tape under the rear of the bottle cage. If you want more tilt in the Alpha you may need to add some small spaces under the screws that mount the Versa (and this actually makes solving securing the rear of the cage easier as you would have more room between the cage Versa and the Alpha. I had the spacers ready to go but I only have a few degrees of tilt so didn't use them. Sorry, not great photos. My Torpedo bottle is in the same location as it was on my Alpha, which is what I was going for.










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Thank you for your post

Iā€™m trying to understand what your goal was?

I have an XLAB Versa

Connected directly to the alpha one with Velcro strip underneath and two rubber bands

No water bottle holder. No screws

No rattle and stays in place even over railroad tracks
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Thank you for your post

Iā€™m trying to understand what your goal was?

I have an XLAB Versa

Connected directly to the alpha one with Velcro strip underneath and two rubber bands

No water bottle holder. No screws

No rattle and stays in place even over railroad tracks

I had this setup on my Alpha (except it just direct mounted to the Alphas mounts without any mods.) When I mounted it up to the One is was WAY too far forward and my Garmin mount was basically interfering with my bar ends. So I was simply looking for a way to move the Versa back. I really like my Garmin up high and flush with the top of the Torpedo. I also use the whale tail clip on the top of the Torpedo to hold down the tube from the Torpedo on one side and my Shiv bladder tube on the other side. So the main goal was just simply moving what I had set up on my Alpha over to the One (which had mounts further forward.) My setup is super solid, nothing moves up there, no rattle, etc. The negative to my setup is I am adding some weight having the trimmed down Versa and their Garmin mount on there when all that weight is simply is really just a Garmin mount. But for now it works and I am very comfortable with where everything is.

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I think I just saw on Instagram a picture of a British trackie in the wind tunnel with Alpha One on a Cervelo T4 perhaps...

TriRig wrote:
Well, I'm personally not a track cyclist, but Molly Van Houweling (former UCI hour record holder) recently switched to Alpha One, and she and her husband (her "preparer" as Slowman would say) are extremely particular about what they use.

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MrTri123 wrote:
gregtay wrote:
ryryrocco wrote:
@gregtay can you please post an image of your hydration system mods? I would like to try that. Thanks


I will grab some photos today.

Bump for hydration pics


Hope this helps. I cut down a carbon Xlab Versa (cut the sides off), drilled a new hole in the mounting plate further forward and used that hole and the original "forward" hole to mount the Versa to the BTA mounts on the Alpha. Then I needed to find a way to secure the rear of the cage to the Versa so I made a very low profile nylon nut/screw work (cut it down a bit) The nylon screw is covered by black tape in the photos (the tape is just there to stop spilled sticky stuff from seeping down under the cage.) I will try to get another photo with the tape off. This rear screw is really just keeping the cage centered, it doesn't need to be something super strong. I also have double sided foam tape under the rear of the bottle cage. If you want more tilt in the Alpha you may need to add some small spaces under the screws that mount the Versa (and this actually makes solving securing the rear of the cage easier as you would have more room between the cage Versa and the Alpha. I had the spacers ready to go but I only have a few degrees of tilt so didn't use them. Sorry, not great photos. My Torpedo bottle is in the same location as it was on my Alpha, which is what I was going for.

Just curious what is that headset cover used below your stem, looks really clean setup
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5MIL wrote:
gregtay wrote:
MrTri123 wrote:
gregtay wrote:
ryryrocco wrote:
@gregtay can you please post an image of your hydration system mods? I would like to try that. Thanks


I will grab some photos today.

Bump for hydration pics


Hope this helps. I cut down a carbon Xlab Versa (cut the sides off), drilled a new hole in the mounting plate further forward and used that hole and the original "forward" hole to mount the Versa to the BTA mounts on the Alpha. Then I needed to find a way to secure the rear of the cage to the Versa so I made a very low profile nylon nut/screw work (cut it down a bit) The nylon screw is covered by black tape in the photos (the tape is just there to stop spilled sticky stuff from seeping down under the cage.) I will try to get another photo with the tape off. This rear screw is really just keeping the cage centered, it doesn't need to be something super strong. I also have double sided foam tape under the rear of the bottle cage. If you want more tilt in the Alpha you may need to add some small spaces under the screws that mount the Versa (and this actually makes solving securing the rear of the cage easier as you would have more room between the cage Versa and the Alpha. I had the spacers ready to go but I only have a few degrees of tilt so didn't use them. Sorry, not great photos. My Torpedo bottle is in the same location as it was on my Alpha, which is what I was going for.


The Alpha was designed to cover the bearings and act as a dustcap, so no need to run one. I wanted to go one step further to protect my bearing so I grabbed the ring/seal the is snapped in the bottom of the factory Shiv dustcap and I placed it on top of the bearing before installing the Alpha. Ended up very clean, low (which is always a plus with the Shiv) and the bearings are protected and not exposed. I did the same thing on my wifes PR5 w/ the Alpha, in her case it was a CraneCreek dustcap, I just pulled the ring/gasket from the bottom of dustcap/headset. The only issue with the CrankCreek is that the rubble seal is blue and her bike is Neutron (pink).. so it is a little more visible under the Alpha.


Just curious what is that headset cover used below your stem, looks really clean setup

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TriRig,

Question on the Alpha One Pad X measure meant. Has anyone run the pads with two screws side by side and pushed to the edge? to get some extra reach?

My Pad X is around 20mm longer than what Alpha One's fit chart provides. Been debating forever, and been practicing with having my elbow sit smack middle on the pad (which I would end up at with an Alpha One), but finally decided that I don't like it.
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TriRig,

Question on the Alpha One Pad X measure meant. Has anyone run the pads with two screws side by side and pushed to the edge? to get some extra reach?

My Pad X is around 20mm longer than what Alpha One's fit chart provides. Been debating forever, and been practicing with having my elbow sit smack middle on the pad (which I would end up at with an Alpha One), but finally decided that I don't like it.
So, that's a bit of a complicated question. The older version of the Ergo Cups had horizontal pad spacing of 15.5mm, which doesn't match the horizontal spacing on the Alpha One. The new Ergo Cups (which you can buy as a separate purchase) are slotted, so technically the bolt spacing will match. However, the extension clamps on Alpha One would hit the Ergo Cup if set forward. so if you were to set them forward, you would need some spacers (at least 5mm or so) so that the cup will clear the clamp. That spacer would go below the cup, on top of the Alpha One cup mount.

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Can't remember if you've answered this already, but is everything sent from the US? Looking to buy Alpha one plus delta cover for my P4, but they're already expensive enough without Swedish taxes :)
Also are both Alpha one and X in stock?

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My TriRig Alpha One is also very 'floppy'. As Rruff mentions it's likely due to no restriction from the cables. I've put a small piece of gaffa tape on each side of the head tube where the Omega X hits it, but would also like a better solution if someone comes up with one. After transport one needs to be aware of the Omega X still being centered as knocking it against the frame can sometimes cause it to lose alignment.

Hey MTM, I eventually solved the issue of the brakes hitting the frame by switching from the longer adapter plate my mechanic used to the shorter one also supplied with the brakes. Not sure if that could be a solution for you or not. I need the 2-hole to single hole adapter plates for my bike, mayne you don't?

I have electrical tape on my frame to hide the chips. Anyone know if nail polish can be used to touch up chips in carbon frames? Presumably the solvent in it is not significantly different from that used with autobody paints?

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Hope this helps. I cut down a carbon Xlab Versa (cut the sides off), drilled a new hole in the mounting plate further forward and used that hole and the original "forward" hole to mount the Versa to the BTA mounts on the Alpha. Then I needed to find a way to secure the rear of the cage to the Versa so I made a very low profile nylon nut/screw work (cut it down a bit) The nylon screw is covered by black tape in the photos (the tape is just there to stop spilled sticky stuff from seeping down under the cage.) I will try to get another photo with the tape off. This rear screw is really just keeping the cage centered, it doesn't need to be something super strong. I also have double sided foam tape under the rear of the bottle cage. If you want more tilt in the Alpha you may need to add some small spaces under the screws that mount the Versa (and this actually makes solving securing the rear of the cage easier as you would have more room between the cage Versa and the Alpha. I had the spacers ready to go but I only have a few degrees of tilt so didn't use them. Sorry, not great photos. My Torpedo bottle is in the same location as it was on my Alpha, which is what I was going for.

Ooh, there ya go. I struggled to get my torpedo on between the angle of my tilt and b/c my extensions are short (b/c I'm 5'3"+). I bought a new garmin mount and it's affixed UNDER the fly using the forward most holes. Thing is, I can't actually see it while using the torpedo. It's just going along for the ride...

(The buttons are also hard to hit b/c the fit between the extensions is tight. I'm using my 920 as a bike computer b/c my 520 only has 2 h battery life these days. The 520 wouldn't twist into this space anyway).

I may cut my Versa up so I can get my computer visible again.

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MTM wrote:
My TriRig Alpha One is also very 'floppy'. As Rruff mentions it's likely due to no restriction from the cables. I've put a small piece of gaffa tape on each side of the head tube where the Omega X hits it, but would also like a better solution if someone comes up with one. After transport one needs to be aware of the Omega X still being centered as knocking it against the frame can sometimes cause it to lose alignment.


Hey MTM, I eventually solved the issue of the brakes hitting the frame by switching from the longer adapter plate my mechanic used to the shorter one also supplied with the brakes. Not sure if that could be a solution for you or not. I need the 2-hole to single hole adapter plates for my bike, mayne you don't?

I have electrical tape on my frame to hide the chips. Anyone know if nail polish can be used to touch up chips in carbon frames? Presumably the solvent in it is not significantly different from that used with autobody paints?

Didn't know there were several adapters? I believe I used the one supplied with the brake, but it's several years old at this point so it might have changed? At the moment I'm back on the Aduro handlebar, though.
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MTM wrote:
Tsunami wrote:
MTM wrote:
My TriRig Alpha One is also very 'floppy'. As Rruff mentions it's likely due to no restriction from the cables. I've put a small piece of gaffa tape on each side of the head tube where the Omega X hits it, but would also like a better solution if someone comes up with one. After transport one needs to be aware of the Omega X still being centered as knocking it against the frame can sometimes cause it to lose alignment.


Hey MTM, I eventually solved the issue of the brakes hitting the frame by switching from the longer adapter plate my mechanic used to the shorter one also supplied with the brakes. Not sure if that could be a solution for you or not. I need the 2-hole to single hole adapter plates for my bike, mayne you don't?

I have electrical tape on my frame to hide the chips. Anyone know if nail polish can be used to touch up chips in carbon frames? Presumably the solvent in it is not significantly different from that used with autobody paints?


Didn't know there were several adapters? I believe I used the one supplied with the brake, but it's several years old at this point so it might have changed? At the moment I'm back on the Aduro handlebar, though.

I was unable to post a picture from work when I tried yesterday, so will just include the link to TriRig's Omega X installation page. Look for the words DM Adapter Low and High to see the picture of the thing I mean.
https://www.tririg.com/...mp;page=installation

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Can't remember if you've answered this already, but is everything sent from the US? Looking to buy Alpha one plus delta cover for my P4, but they're already expensive enough without Swedish taxes :)
Also are both Alpha one and X in stock?
Yes, everything ships from the US. Stock is routinely updated to be accurate, so if the site says "in stock" that means it is in stock, and you can expect quick shipping based on our policies described at http://www.tririg.com/policies - thanks!

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Anyone know if nail polish can be used to touch up chips in carbon frames?

Just get a little bottle of auto paint. I have doubts about nail polish lasting very long.
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Thanks for the thorough response and detailed information.
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CN wrote:
I'm considering buying an Alpha One for use on the track (4K IP). I'm just concerned that it might not be quite as stiff as some other options out there. I remember the comment about extensions play made by the BikeRadar reviewer. I'm not very heavy (Low 70s in kg), nor very powerful (1200W / 1 sec peak power). The UCI 80 cm rule will force me to run pretty short extensions as well. The only real reason for my concern is that I'll be riding it on a short and bumpy 190 m track with unusually steep banking.

Have any fellow Slowtwitchers tested the Alpha One for endurance track events? Would love to hear how it have worked for you!

Thanks in advance!

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Tsunami wrote:
MTM wrote:
Tsunami wrote:
MTM wrote:
My TriRig Alpha One is also very 'floppy'. As Rruff mentions it's likely due to no restriction from the cables. I've put a small piece of gaffa tape on each side of the head tube where the Omega X hits it, but would also like a better solution if someone comes up with one. After transport one needs to be aware of the Omega X still being centered as knocking it against the frame can sometimes cause it to lose alignment.


Hey MTM, I eventually solved the issue of the brakes hitting the frame by switching from the longer adapter plate my mechanic used to the shorter one also supplied with the brakes. Not sure if that could be a solution for you or not. I need the 2-hole to single hole adapter plates for my bike, mayne you don't?

I have electrical tape on my frame to hide the chips. Anyone know if nail polish can be used to touch up chips in carbon frames? Presumably the solvent in it is not significantly different from that used with autobody paints?


Didn't know there were several adapters? I believe I used the one supplied with the brake, but it's several years old at this point so it might have changed? At the moment I'm back on the Aduro handlebar, though.


I was unable to post a picture from work when I tried yesterday, so will just include the link to TriRig's Omega X installation page. Look for the words DM Adapter Low and High to see the picture of the thing I mean.
https://www.tririg.com/...mp;page=installation

I don't use adapter for DM since my fork is not DM (P5). I use the no-hanger back plate, but now that I notice the height difference between those DM mounts I wonder if there are also different heights for the no-hanger back plate. I have an abrupt edge where the brake meets the back plate, but a team mate with the Omega does not have this edge, but rather a smooth joint.
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There is only one version of the NH plate. Can you show me images of what is going on?

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Looks like you have an Omega X made prior to June 2016, with a Front Plate made after that time. The tire clearance was improved, and that's why the new Front Plate is higher. All parts made since June 2016 match that Front Plate with the higher arc.

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That explains it. Maybe I have an older front plate somewhere that will fit more nicely.
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Iā€™ve been looking into a new bar for my IA10 recently to work on my fit for 2020. I have it narrowed down to 3 options, Alpha One, 51 Speedshop and the new ZIpp Vuka. I was just wondering what the general consensus of what people like and dislike about the Alpha one?
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Maybe look in the previous 499 posts for your answer?
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Sorry, been keeping an eye on this thread for a why now. I wouldnā€™t have posted if I couldnā€™t find an exact answer for my question/worries? Mainly looking for an answer after people have used it for multiple months for training and racing, now that itā€™s getting to the end of the year? Didnā€™t really care what itā€™s like out of the box and after a few rides.
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I take my bike to the bike shop for just about everything but thought I would try installing the alpha one myself

Followed the instructional video step by step. Made a few little errors had to redo but allnin all was easy and no special tools needed

After thousands and thousands of miles still just as happy as ever

Great item to me would buy again in a heart beat
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Thanks for the update. Valuable information.
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I would be very careful with purchase of Alpha One. In my opinion there is a relevant design issue with it, which can cause damage to person riding it. My item become useless just after several months of riding it despite I carefully followed torque specification. I was lucky to see this defect shortly before my "A" race this year, which otherwise could have been dangerous to my health and to other riders.

I made some photos of the problem with the Alpha One monopost: https://drive.google.com/...bHtIml_a?usp=sharing

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Whatā€™s the issue?

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I would be very careful with purchase of Alpha One. In my opinion there is a relevant design issue with it, which can cause damage to person riding it. My item become useless just after several months of riding it despite I carefully followed torque specification. I was lucky to see this defect shortly before my "A" race this year, which otherwise could have been dangerous to my health and to other riders.

I made some photos of the problem with the Alpha One monopost: https://drive.google.com/...bHtIml_a?usp=sharing

I wouldn't hesitate to go with the Alpha One. I have had one on my Shiv and my wife has one on her QR PRfive, both were purchased when the Alpha One first came out and have countless miles on them, lots of races, Zwift rides, etc and we have not had a single issue. Zero issues with anything slipping and I have a ton of confidence in this bar. I even had a minor crash and the end of the base bar held up really well for sliding across the pavement (really just took up the top coat, no deep scratches.) These things are rock solid and have taken a ton of abuse on the our bikes. Note that I ALWAYS use the correct torque when making adjustments.. ALWAYS. I even wrote the correct TQ number next to each bolt with a silver sharpe as a reminder.

Hard to tell what is going on with your bar but the damage to the front looks like you hit something or WAY over torqued the bolt, or did some other unnatural thing to it. As far as scratches, etc.... these things are sort of hand made so I don't expect them to be cosmetically perfect (meaning I am not to worried about a small blem/scratch) If you think your bar was used (messed up bolts,etc) when you received it then you should have called tririg and asked for a new one. IF you installed it and used it and now are claiming it was used when you received it then you are likely not going to get anywhere.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriEnduro] [ In reply to ]
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TriEnduro wrote:
Sorry, been keeping an eye on this thread for a why now. I wouldnā€™t have posted if I couldnā€™t find an exact answer for my question/worries? Mainly looking for an answer after people have used it for multiple months for training and racing, now that itā€™s getting to the end of the year? Didnā€™t really care what itā€™s like out of the box and after a few rides.


I've been using the Alpha One since March this year. Love em for function and form.

Form - The cables on the stock Felt IA16 were a mess and were driving me crazy. Now there are no cables are in my sight with the SRAM etap.
Function - All feels well and handles well. Can't tell you much in terms of performance data.

Very satisfied with the purchase and use.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [Bartek_Zet] [ In reply to ]
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I weight 200 lbs

I have over 12,000 trainer miles on my tririg alpha ones.

No problems
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriEnduro] [ In reply to ]
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TriEnduro wrote:
Sorry, been keeping an eye on this thread for a why now. I wouldnā€™t have posted if I couldnā€™t find an exact answer for my question/worries? Mainly looking for an answer after people have used it for multiple months for training and racing, now that itā€™s getting to the end of the year? Didnā€™t really care what itā€™s like out of the box and after a few rides.

I can't comment relative to the other bars you mention, but compared to the stock ones that came with my slice (will try to find / add make in an edit) the Alpha One is a bit more involved when it comes to packing my bike in a bag for travel.

Prior bars, removed via stem, twist around to lie against frame, strap in place, done.

Height of Alpha One monopost requires I pack differently, lowering the stack. Also having larger bend to extensions requires I loosen the extensions to rotate them flat. Nothing tragic, just a few more steps.

Also FWIW this was my 1st experience with carbon bars / extensions and the sensation they flex under my weight (125-130 lbs) was a bit unnerving at 1st. I ponder how / whether this flexing contributed to the upward slipping of my steer tube compression plug that kept leading to my headset loosening over every ride. My shop fixed this by upgrading me to a different compression plug.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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TriRig Alpha One base bar is broken at the place, where front bolt tightens Alpha One monopost. Like the base bar exploded from inside despite the bolt was tightened to specified torque. It's a single point of failure for the whole aerobar.
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Hi, are you from TriRig?

I have tried to contact your Customer Support regarding the availbility of Alpha One.

I would like to fit a Dimond Marquise Disc with the Alpha One cockpit and how can I order it. The website is a bit complicated and could not or does not answer promptly.
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Charlie_Jap wrote:
Hi, are you from TriRig?

I have tried to contact your Customer Support regarding the availbility of Alpha One.

I would like to fit a Dimond Marquise Disc with the Alpha One cockpit and how can I order it. The website is a bit complicated and could not or does not answer promptly.
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No offense but whatā€™s complicated about the buying process? Select what you want, select Add to Cart, and go from there.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [Charlie_Jap] [ In reply to ]
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Charlie_Jap wrote:
Hi, are you from TriRig?

I have tried to contact your Customer Support regarding the availbility of Alpha One.

I would like to fit a Dimond Marquise Disc with the Alpha One cockpit and how can I order it. The website is a bit complicated and could not or does not answer promptly.
Like GMAN said above, it shouldn't be too complicated. And we are very happy to help you. However we are a very small company and sometimes not as fast in response as we would like to be. Normally you can expect a reply within 1-2 business days, however we are a little bit behind due to the Ironman World Championships this week. Feel free to send an email to support@tririg.com and we will be very happy to help you as fast as we can, but again, please expect some delay during this week.

Regarding purchase, just head to http://www.tririg.com/AlphaOne and select the bundle you'd like (you don't need any brakes since you have the Marquise Disc, but you might want some extensions if you don't have some already). Add to your cart, and check out via the PayPal shopping cart. It should be very straightforward, but we are happy to help you if you have any trouble. Thanks!

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The GMAN wrote:
Charlie_Jap wrote:
Hi, are you from TriRig?

I have tried to contact your Customer Support regarding the availability of Alpha One.

I would like to fit a Dimond Marquise Disc with the Alpha One cockpit and how can I order it. The website is a bit complicated and could not or does not answer promptly.
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No offense but whatā€™s complicated about the buying process? Select what you want, select Add to Cart, and go from there.

I wish it is that simple!

I would like buy it and send it to a Hotel where I am staying but the website or the system doesn't allow it.
If you can show me, than I will agree that it will be simple.
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We donā€™t recommend shipping to a temporary address. Please read our store policies at tririg.com/policies

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These things are rock solid and have taken a ton of abuse on the our bikes. Note that I ALWAYS use the correct torque when making adjustments.. ALWAYS. I even wrote the correct TQ number next to each bolt with a silver sharpe as a reminder.

The same is for me. Those who know me know how careful I'm when it comes to torque specification. That's why I was completely disappointed by quality of my aerobar. I have never experienced such an issue with any other carbon aerobars I owned before. Which btw. were much less expensive.

gregtay wrote:
As far as scratches, etc.... these things are sort of hand made so I don't expect them to be cosmetically perfect (meaning I am not to worried about a small blem/scratch) If you think your bar was used (messed up bolts,etc) when you received it then you should have called tririg and asked for a new one. IF you installed it and used it and now are claiming it was used when you received it then you are likely not going to get anywhere.
The problem is that just after I received my replacement, I contacted Tririg about those scratches and my suspicion that the replacement had been used before. They have confirmed that the replacement was dismounted from their expo bike, as they didn't have any other parts, and they forgot to tell me about it. I requested sending me new bar, but they rejected.

But YMMW, maybe it's only me having those problems with their product and their services.
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Hi Bartek_Zet,

In bringing your complaint to the public, it may be relevant to state that you were asking us to overnight you a replacement, and that you indicated that SPEED of replacement was of utmost important to you. In order to get you parts as fast as possible, we not only paid an additional $100 out of pocket ourselves, but yes we broke down a show bike with a bar that was completely unused (but had been mounted on a show bike). You did receive a new and unused bar, but in order to help accomplish your goal of an overnighted bar, that was what we did. When you requested that we send you another bar, at our cost, without sending anything back to us, we indeed declined that further request.

You have taken to social media and posted (by our count) at least a dozen times claiming that Alpha One has a design flaw and others should avoid purchasing the bar. Continuing to do so is, of course, your prerogative. However, please do not mislead others by failing to include all relevant facts.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [Bartek_Zet] [ In reply to ]
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And, while you may not like it, even if TriRig didnā€™t do as you requested or did send you a ā€œusedā€ part, a warranty replacement, contrary to your understanding, doesnā€™t have to be brand, spanking new.
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Just installed the Alpha One on my P4 and so far it looks awesome! Have to bring my bike to the shop so I can cut the fork, and will switch to Etap as well. Can't wait to test it out in the open roads, too bad it's already winter here in Sweden...



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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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Looks beautiful!!

However, that Omega X brake is not installed properly. At rest, the Levers should be flush with the brake body. Then you use the M4 set screws on each lever to bring the Arms in closer and adjust pad stance width. Whoever installed that brake just brought the Wedge up, which is not only incorrect, and less aero, but could be dangerous if you pull the Wedge completely out of the brake. Please watch the installation video: https://www.tririg.com/...mp;page=installation

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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Man I would love to get one of those on my IA2. Sadly, doesn't fit the fork.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [Geek_fit] [ In reply to ]
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Yes it does! The only nag is some DIY work you might have to do with the brake fairing. But it fits the fork just fine: https://www.tririg.com/...lpha_X_Compatibility

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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oh, wow... I thought you said it wouldn't work because they pre-cut the fork? I must have misunderstood!


Edit: Nevermind. I remember I needed more spacers than the form would hold in order to raise up the base bar. Not the Alpha Ones fault.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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Where did you put your blip box?
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [TriathlonJoe] [ In reply to ]
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TriathlonJoe wrote:
Where did you put your blip box?

He's still running mechanical. eTap not yet installed.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [TriathlonJoe] [ In reply to ]
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Like gman said I havenā€™t installed etap yet, but there is a post earlier in the thread which shows that you can install it under the dragonfly mount which looks very clean!

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Wow thanks I will check that out this weekend!

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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oscaro wrote:
Like gman said I havenā€™t installed etap yet, but there is a post earlier in the thread which shows that you can install it under the dragonfly mount which looks very clean!

I have some pictures here with the blip box mounted below the dragonfly and others here with the bike finished. Sorry for being lazy and not posting a bunch a pictures on this thread. Moderators can remove this post if it is in violation. I have the appropriate screw listed as well.


I've been using the Alpha One / etap since the spring and love it. It looks very clean to me and I almost never notice the blip box from any angle. It was easier to install and all I am using is the bar end clics and no other blips, but even with extra blips it would be easy to install compared to hiding it in other places. Plus when time comes to change the battery it will be easier than digging into the Calpac if I placed it there.

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oscaro wrote:
Like gman said I havenā€™t installed etap yet, but there is a post earlier in the thread which shows that you can install it under the dragonfly mount which looks very clean!

Here is mine under the dragonfly.



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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [Felt_Rider] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks guys. That's exactly what I was looking for.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Dear TriRig team,


TriRig wrote:

..., it may be relevant to state that you were asking us to overnight you a replacement, and that you indicated that SPEED of replacement was of utmost important to you. In order to get you parts as fast as possible, we not only paid an additional $100 out of pocket ourselves, but yes we broke down a show bike with a bar that was completely unused (but had been mounted on a show bike).


I think we have different perspectives from which we are looking at the issue. You have commercial point of view: sell as much as you can and limit costs where you can. My perspective is a point of view of a user of your product, who
  • invested many months into hard training to prepare himself for a competition in A-category race,
  • invested lot of money into premium product offered by you to get the most out of his setup on that day
  • and who finally was faced with the situation that one week before that race your premium product got broken what excluded him from the competition.
Looking from your perspective of cost saving I fully understand the two proposals I got from you: either I would pay you additional $170 for expedited shipping or you would send me a replacement free of charge by standard shipping, which I would get in 3 weeks without a chance to participate in the A-race. I paid you additional money to save all my efforts and already incurred travel costs to the location of the race, but frankly speaking for me it was a vary bad experience. Maybe it's only typical for my country, but within warranty period of premium product I would expect from seller support services really helping users with their problems instead of forcing them to pay additional money in critical situation like that one. Especially if user followed specifications provided by you. Please, think how you can improve on that for the future.

TriRig wrote:

You did receive a new and unused bar, but in order to help accomplish your goal of an overnighted bar, that was what we did. When you requested that we send you another bar, at our cost, without sending anything back to us, we indeed declined that further request.

This is what I cannot confirm. I send you already multiple photos of the replacement showing that it came to me in worse conditions than my broken bar. I would never classify it as a new / unused bar. You also hadn't provided me with any information that the bar you were going to send me at additional cost from my side would be of that bad conditions. This whole situation is not acceptable for me as a customer and at least in EU it's not legal. Let me contact you to agree how we can proceed with it.

TriRig wrote:

You have taken to social media and posted (by our count) at least a dozen times claiming that Alpha One has a design flaw and others should avoid purchasing the bar. Continuing to do so is, of course, your prerogative. However, please do not mislead others by failing to include all relevant facts.

Putting warranty replacement issue aside, I'm really convinced that Alpha One has design issue related to single point of failure at the monopost mount. I was really lucky to face that problem of broken bar at home, having my bike on indoor trainer. But - please, put aside for a moment the perspective of cost saving and think what can happen to a person riding your product like me with average speed of 45-48kph and facing such problem during competition, when one typically gives all out. Maybe it was only about my item and we will be able to solve it by warranty replacement. But maybe it's also a task for you to think about how to make this product safe or at least improve your quality assurance before given item is released for sale.
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Sounds like you and TriRig parting ways, and then leaving this thread alone would be a win-win-win for you, TriRig, and the rest of us.
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Bartek_Zet wrote:
Dear TriRig team,

Putting warranty replacement issue aside, I'm really convinced that Alpha One has design issue related to single point of failure at the monopost mount. I was really lucky to face that problem of broken bar at home, having my bike on indoor trainer. But - please, put aside for a moment the perspective of cost saving and think what can happen to a person riding your product like me with average speed of 45-48kph and facing such problem during competition, when one typically gives all out. Maybe it was only about my item and we will be able to solve it by warranty replacement. But maybe it's also a task for you to think about how to make this product safe or at least improve your quality assurance before given item is released for sale.

That's pretty bold to state you think there is a "design problem" and "safety issue" with the Alpha when the sample is "1". People have logged thousands of miles on the Alpha bars (on the trainer and outside) and you are the only one I have heard of who has managed to destroy one where the monopost connects to the basebar. My Alpha has been rock solid for thousands of miles(and having raced IM70.3AZ on some terrible roads last weekend without a single issue/squeak/slip/crack, etc it hasn't been compromised or shown any sign of a "design flaw".) My wife's Alpha has also been perfect (and she has the monopost extended much higher than I do.) My guess is one of a few things happened 1) Your Alpha was a defect/lemon. That is possible in any manufactured product. If that's the case I am confidant Tririg would stand behind their product 2) you did something to the bar (inadvertently) that caused it to fail (crashed, over torqued the bolt, rode with the monopost not tightened down causing too much movement, etc., bar installed incorrectly, etc.) It happens to the best of us (I have over torqued things not realizing I change the setting on my wrench.) You seem convinced it is a "design and safety issue." What do you think the safety issue is?.. simply the fact that it is a monopost? Under normal condition the bar and its design seems to have held up out in the real world. The fact that yours broke on the trainer makes me think something else is going on with your bar as the mono-post is going to see much lighter forces on a trainer vs. being outside on the road with potholes, speedbumps, etc. Were you just riding along at 250W on the trainer and the base bar cracked to the point of being unusable? If something were truly wrong with the design I think we would all want to know about it but so far I don't think I have seen any evidence in your post to cause me any concern about the design of the bar I ride every day.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [gregtay] [ In reply to ]
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I'm glad you said this.....I mean, is there such a product with a 0% failure rate? It sucks that he had a bad experience with the product. I think almost everyone in here has probably had an issue with at least one of our bike components/parts/frames whatever over the years, but that doesn't necessarily mean there is a design defect with any of those parts.
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is anyone running this on the new IA disc? any issues?

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Re: Felt IA Disc [johnnyyd] [ In reply to ]
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Is there any particular (rim) brake lever that people like on these things?
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trail wrote:
Is there any particular (rim) brake lever that people like on these things?

I run the Shimano di2 levers as seen below.



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trail wrote:
Is there any particular (rim) brake lever that people like on these things?
The Shimano levers in general are always our first choice. Either the Di2 ones shown just above, or the standard levers for non-Di2 bikes, model numbers BL-TT78 (alloy) and BL-TT79 (carbon). They pull a bit more cable than most levers, which generally means greater max power.

Thanks also to the many customers who have described great experiences with the bar either publicly or privately to us. We try to service all customers who have troubles or issues, and although we will never get it 100% right, we are always striving to do better.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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What length clics are you using and what is extension length? Trying to figure out if 500mm is long enough for this set up.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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DFW_Tri wrote:
What length clics are you using and what is extension length? Trying to figure out if 500mm is long enough for this set up.

The eTap AXS aero gruppo comes with 650mm Clics. The TriRig Gamma One extensions are really, really long. I'm fairly tall with long arms and I cut like 3 to 4 inches off the extensions. I don't think 500mm would be long enough with the uncut extensions.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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The GMAN wrote:
DFW_Tri wrote:
What length clics are you using and what is extension length? Trying to figure out if 500mm is long enough for this set up.


The eTap AXS aero gruppo comes with 650mm Clics. The TriRig Gamma One extensions are really, really long. I'm fairly tall with long arms and I cut like 3 to 4 inches off the extensions. I don't think 500mm would be long enough with the uncut extensions.

That might be true *for uncut extensions* and if you insisted on running the clic wire *all the way through* that uncut extension. But as a practical matter, no one is going to run that setup. Even if you temporarily use uncut extensions for fit purposes, you can exit the clic wire much farther forward, then enter the Alpha One base bar via the hole in the cable cover just behind the Monopost. In that event, the 500mm clics may be perfectly adequate.

That said, I'd *ALWAYS* go for the 650mm version. A wire that's too long is no problem at all; just push any excess into the extension, or the stem cavity, or wherever. A wire that's too short, on the other hand, is a pain, and usually needs to be replaced.

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Manute Bol could've used the uncut extensions. Arguably nobody else. :-)



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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Nick or anyone else who might be able to assist...
I have the Alpha One installed on two bikes. The monopost is set at 1.5 on each. There is a fair bit of side to side play/wiggle to everything mounted to the monopost. There's no wiggle and everything is rock solid if the monopost is slammed. So it's definitely the monopost that's wiggling like it needs a shim or something. See attached video link and turn up volume to hear it wiggling. The set screw is tightened to spec and tried to tighten it a bit more to see if that helps but it does not. Same issue on both bikes.

It moves a lot so it's a bit unnerving when my contact point is wiggling like that bar is gonna come loose. Anyone else have this issue.

https://i.imgur.com/6uO1Mvb.mp4

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Something is NOT right there. My guess is that there isn't enough torque on the Wedge. You can safely go to 10 Nm there, which most people don't do at first. Can you increase torque and report back?

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Did that. Went beyond 10 even. Like I said, two bikes with the same issue.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - How to purchase? [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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I tightened to 12 and that seems to stop the wiggle. šŸ˜³

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [SteveM] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for sharing your install! I just copied your solution and it fits perfectly! Now I still have to press and tighten the RS-910 into the extension and drill a hole so the cable can run to the stem.
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The GMAN wrote:
I tightened to 12 and that seems to stop the wiggle. šŸ˜³

I had the same issue, used carbon paste over tightened the bolt switched to the alloy post (from memory was originally the carbon post), and also narrowed up the pads in a bike fitting plus screwed pads on with diagonal screws rather than in a line, and ran slightly higher basebar less extension. Flex on the monopost problem pretty much disappeared. Your experience may vary. Tririg were pretty helpful in solving by PM. So far I would say they have been outstanding service wise actually - only h2o audio the waterproof earbud I shuffle guys and Ritz-Carlton hotel are comparable.

FYI I thought it was an alpha one issue until I had a play with the canyon monopost which had a little movement and then the cervelo monopost which was a noodle. Of course I don't know exactly how my friends had set their bikes up... Seems like its a bit of the compromise for any one post system, what I have done is also started riding thinking 'soft hands light elbows' as maybe my old canyon and qr both had much more solid heavier cockpits so I ended up quite rough on them.
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Has anyone tried mounting a bottle cage & bottle underneath the dragonfly (with arms tilted up to 15 degrees) to simulate the set up that TJ Tollakson used to use??

I don't own an Alpha One (yet) but to me that seems like a great way to narrow up the arm pads and run a "BTA" bottle to push air around the arms and rider...

My (pad) set up now does not allow for a bottle between my arms unless I run something super skinny like an aero bottle since my elbows are close together...
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MikeyC-anada wrote:
Has anyone tried mounting a bottle cage & bottle underneath the dragonfly (with arms tilted up to 15 degrees) to simulate the set up that TJ Tollakson used to use??

I don't own an Alpha One (yet) but to me that seems like a great way to narrow up the arm pads and run a "BTA" bottle to push air around the arms and rider...

My (pad) set up now does not allow for a bottle between my arms unless I run something super skinny like an aero bottle since my elbows are close together...
I have never seen this suggested before but I was so intrigued I had to go try it immediately. I just used the normal length screw but I think you would need something longer and a spacer as even though the bottle cage fits with this setup, when the bottle is inserted it expands the cage a bit and doesnt really work. I'd need some more breathing room. This is also mounted to the furthest two mounting holes forward. Looks like there is some space to slide it back. Reaching and replacing the bottle is a bit awkward but doable. I have max tilt on this setup (17.5) and the bottle I used is a fairly small one. With a further back cage I think a larger bottle would do okay. Definitely doesn't add a whole lot of frontal surface area but does add some from the side. And if my monopost was all the way down the rear of the cage may bump the front of the basebar where the monopost bolt is.




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Ben - Thanks so much for trying this and laying it out.... I was thinking of using a longer bottle with the Speedfill bottlle lid. I thought this approach would help elongate the top part of the bottle and keep the lid and straw essentially tucked between the area of your arms and "top" surface of the bottle. This would also be a great place to store a couple gels...

Part of me is wondering if there is a way to make a cage / cage holder (3d printed) that acts like a fairing to clean up the transition between the bottle sides and the arm rests...

Its got me thinking! Thanks again!!

Cheers
Mike
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Re: Felt IA Disc [MikeyC-anada] [ In reply to ]
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Glad I saw this suggestion as I finish setting-up my Alpha One - I think I am going to run one under and one above.




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Re: Felt IA Disc [MikeyC-anada] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Mike, I bought an Alpha One a few months ago but still haven't gotten around to installing it given the lack of races. Are you currently running a Speedfill system on top of your extensions? Is it the full Aerobundle (A2+Z4) or just the A2? I think my ideal setup would be Aerobundle with a 1-Liter Zefal Magnum bottle, wondering if this is realistic with the Alpha One. Thanks!
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Re: Felt IA Disc [vonagut] [ In reply to ]
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I don't own an Alpha One - just have been contemplating my purchase and looking for ways to clean up the front end even more before I take the plunge...

My idea for keeping it "bare bones" and close to stock was using the Speedfill A2 lid on a Fabric Cageless bottle so you would just have the studs mounted underneath the dragon fly. https://fabric.cc/...geless-bottle-600ml/

I am currently running a stock PD base bar and aero bar bracket system with an Aeria hydration bottle up front. Im looking to upgrade to clean up the front end bar and risers and also give me tilt without impacting reach (i can rotate my brackets back for my desired Mantis set up but it pulls the arm pads back behind the base bar)

Cheers
Mike
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Re: Felt IA Disc [realbdeal] [ In reply to ]
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Ben - I was thinking that the curvature of the bottle / cage might be too close to the radius of the underside on the dragonfly....

I was thinking of using this as a spacer / standoff and then it would let me adjust the position forward and back
https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...and-accessory-device

Cheers
Mike
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Re: Felt IA Disc [MikeyC-anada] [ In reply to ]
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MikeyC-anada wrote:
Ben - I was thinking that the curvature of the bottle / cage might be too close to the radius of the underside on the dragonfly....

I was thinking of using this as a spacer / standoff and then it would let me adjust the position forward and back
https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...and-accessory-device

Cheers
Mike
I actually use something similar (https://www.amazon.com/...ppx_pop_mob_ap_share) on Summer's alpha one to bring the BTA cage a bit further back. With her extensions being shorter this allows more space for her bottle to slide out forwards. I could test it tomorrow undermounted, but I think it would be perfect for both better fitting the curve and allowing a wider range of positions. Of course the one I have isn't infinitely adjustable but same concept.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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Okay, alpha one people. There is obviously a great sale going on with tririg right now. I have been going back and forth and back and forth on it. I have a canyon speedmax cf. I need a bit more reach, currently an 80mm stem. My big question is as I get older and less flexible and need to change my position to less aggressive I want to have the ability to adjust my position to the distance or to what my body allows. I am including a pic not the best I was repositioning so I am not completely this far forward on the saddle/pads, but a bit more reach would be nice.

Is the alpha one going to allow me to do this down the road? Also, has anyone cut the steerer tube on the canyon to make the bento box nice and flat. Talk me into this or talk me out of this!

Thanks alpha ones!
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lonniecdams wrote:
Okay, alpha one people. There is obviously a great sale going on with tririg right now. I have been going back and forth and back and forth on it. I have a canyon speedmax cf. I need a bit more reach, currently an 80mm stem. My big question is as I get older and less flexible and need to change my position to less aggressive I want to have the ability to adjust my position to the distance or to what my body allows. I am including a pic not the best I was repositioning so I am not completely this far forward on the saddle/pads, but a bit more reach would be nice.

Is the alpha one going to allow me to do this down the road? Also, has anyone cut the steerer tube on the canyon to make the bento box nice and flat. Talk me into this or talk me out of this!

Thanks alpha ones!

I have an Alpha One on my Speedmax CF, you will not regret getting the Alpha One, it's so much better and more adjustable than the stock cockpit. Obviously the height is insanely easy to adjust with one bolt. But, the scoops also add a ton of fore/aft adjustment - I was on the short end of the Bike's reach for my size S Speedmax and the scoops allow me to hit those numbers with ample options to shorten (or lengthen) even more - something the stock cockpit did not allow.

I cut the steerer on my Speedmax; I am running the TriRig Alpha One with 1 10mm spacer and the TorHans Bento X and it aligns pretty well with the bento and all the Di2 wires and brake cables are not almost completely hidden, with the exception the the aerobar shifter cables from the back of the extensions to the stem cover. This set-up does require some modification (drilling new holes) in the Torhans bento, since the Speedmax bento mounts are not standard.

Let me know if you want any more info or want pics of anything.

I am basically replicating the CF that tririg featured sans Delta cover.
https://www.tririg.com/...eedmax_CF_SLX_Review
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [BevK] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks, for letting me know. How is cutting the tube? DIY or take it in? I am not running Di2.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [BevK] [ In reply to ]
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I forgot to ask if you kept the PD extensions or if you went the the tririg ones.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [lonniecdams] [ In reply to ]
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Honestly, cutting the steerer was VERY intimidating, I had never cut a steerer before let alone a carbon one. But, it was very easy once I got over the intimidation.

I used the items below. I live in an apartment with no workbench or stand and had no real issues cutting the steerer and aerobar extensions, I would say DIY over going to a shop if you are reasonably competent mechanically.

Saw guide: https://www.amazon.com/...le?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Saw: https://www.amazon.com/...le?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Carbon Blade: https://www.amazon.com/...8&th=1&psc=1
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [lonniecdams] [ In reply to ]
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I'm now using the TriRig Gamma Ones (and Omega front brake). In the bundle the cost was so low for extensions, I figured if I disliked them i could just sell and get most of my money back.
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You can use any hacksaw blade with 24 teeth per inch to cut a carbon steerer tube. I do recommend that you clean up the edges with a bit of sandpaper when you are done. Home Depot has a lot of bargain options for saws and blades:

https://www.homedepot.com/...N-5yc1vZc26qZ1z19aqc
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BevK wrote:
lonniecdams wrote:
Okay, alpha one people. There is obviously a great sale going on with tririg right now. I have been going back and forth and back and forth on it. I have a canyon speedmax cf. I need a bit more reach, currently an 80mm stem. My big question is as I get older and less flexible and need to change my position to less aggressive I want to have the ability to adjust my position to the distance or to what my body allows. I am including a pic not the best I was repositioning so I am not completely this far forward on the saddle/pads, but a bit more reach would be nice.

Is the alpha one going to allow me to do this down the road? Also, has anyone cut the steerer tube on the canyon to make the bento box nice and flat. Talk me into this or talk me out of this!

Thanks alpha ones!


I have an Alpha One on my Speedmax CF, you will not regret getting the Alpha One, it's so much better and more adjustable than the stock cockpit. Obviously the height is insanely easy to adjust with one bolt. But, the scoops also add a ton of fore/aft adjustment - I was on the short end of the Bike's reach for my size S Speedmax and the scoops allow me to hit those numbers with ample options to shorten (or lengthen) even more - something the stock cockpit did not allow.

I cut the steerer on my Speedmax; I am running the TriRig Alpha One with 1 10mm spacer and the TorHans Bento X and it aligns pretty well with the bento and all the Di2 wires and brake cables are not almost completely hidden, with the exception the the aerobar shifter cables from the back of the extensions to the stem cover. This set-up does require some modification (drilling new holes) in the Torhans bento, since the Speedmax bento mounts are not standard.

Let me know if you want any more info or want pics of anything.

I am basically replicating the CF that tririg featured sans Delta cover.
https://www.tririg.com/...eedmax_CF_SLX_Review
I was going to chime in and point to that same article, but you beat me to it! This is important for lonniecdams, because this setup lets you get even lower than before (if needed), but also has the advantages mentioned above (ease of adjustment, more range of reach adjustment, easy tilt, etc). As mentioned above, you do need to trim the steerer tube, and do a little DIY work to mount the BentoX. But the result (especially when you add Omega X and Delta) is stunningly beautiful, aero, and user-friendly.







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As a couple of others have asked in this thread over the past year+, is there anyone who can share how they installed an Alpha One onto a Felt IA -disc- frameset? The challenge being the front cable/head tube cover that has those two screw holes/nubs at the top. that are meant to screw into the side of the felt stems......
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [SBRcanuck] [ In reply to ]
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Itā€™s the exact same situation for both the rim and disc versions. I think most folks just shave that tab down and rely exclusively on the lower mounting points for the front cover.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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I had my Diamondback Andean built with an Alpha One instead of the stock cockpit. I really like the bars but ran in one fitting issue: Using the Zipp Vuka AXS extensions in combination with the TriRig Alpha One massively restricts the aft-adjustability of the extensions as the bulging of the Vukas hit the clamps of the base-bar. Being a short rider that leaves me with the extensions being too long. A non-issue for bigger riders or users of regular shaped extensions but something you should be aware of if your short-armed with a compulsory need for integration.
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blackbird1 wrote:
I had my Diamondback Andean built with an Alpha One instead of the stock cockpit. I really like the bars but ran in one fitting issue: Using the Zipp Vuka AXS extensions in combination with the TriRig Alpha One massively restricts the aft-adjustability of the extensions as the bulging of the Vukas hit the clamps of the base-bar. Being a short rider that leaves me with the extensions being too long. A non-issue for bigger riders or users of regular shaped extensions but something you should be aware of if your short-armed with a compulsory need for integration.

Yep, that's a fair critique. Any bar with a forward-offset clamp is going to have that issue to some extent (for example, Alpha One, 3T Aduro, or the Trek SC Gen 2 bar). That's the reason we designed Gamma One and Gamma 115; these extensions achieve similar ergonomic features to many modern extension shapes, while preserving the maximum possible range of reach adjustment:


Of course, I understand the desire to integrate and hide everything from the wind. For AXS, our recommended way to satisfy that integration itch is to mount the BlipBox on the UNDERSIDE of the Dragonfly. You can see how we did it in this article:

TriRig.com SRAM AXS Review


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Re: TriRig Alpha One [blackbird1] [ In reply to ]
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I ran into the exact same problem as you. I purchased the Alpha One for my Andean along with the Zipp Vuka AXS extensions when TriRig reviewed them with the Alpha Ones. They simply do not work for the vast majority of fits! I'm certainly not a small rider at 5'11", and there was no way that setup could work for me. I felt a little misled by the TriRig review of the AXS extensions, and honestly looking back at the photos in the article you can see how far they stick out. Of course, the article never mentions the fit issue whatsoever.

I sold the Alpha One and kept the Zipp AXS 90 extensions. The AXS integration with those extensions is very clean!

https://www.tririg.com/...90_Extensions_Review

https://www.tririg.com/...nsions_Review_16.jpg
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [gregtay] [ In reply to ]
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Since several people discussed the possibilities and problems with installing an Xlab versa on their alpha one I thought it might be interesting to mention that Xlab has a new "versa slim". https://www.xlab-usa.com/torpedo-versa-slim.html

It looks like a good option for me but since the Alpha one is not specifically mentioned as compatible I sent Xlab an email and they confirmed it should fit the Alpha one. Being from the Netherlands I can't order yet since they just released it and didn't supply European distributors yet. As soon as I have one I will post some pics here.
If there is anyone from the US who has already tried it on the Alpha One I would be interested to hear if it works well.

Btw the customer service experience of Xlab was very good. Immediate replies and offers to help contacting EU distributors to be informed immediately when they arrive.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Would the delta cover completely conceal the exposed front disc brake hose on a 2019 Cervelo P series when paired with alpha one?
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Re: TriRig Alpha One [mkb] [ In reply to ]
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mkb wrote:
Would the delta cover completely conceal the exposed front disc brake hose on a 2019 Cervelo P series when paired with alpha one?
I donā€™t know for sure. One customer sent us this gallery of images, but it doesnā€™t completely show the non drive side.

https://www.tririg.com/...tom_Cervelo_P_Series

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [RichardA] [ In reply to ]
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Last mont I wrote here that I ordered the new Xlab Versa Slim. It arrived yesterday and I just installed it.
I'm very happy with the product, it fits perfectly and garmin and bottle are exactly in the right position for me thanks for the plenty of space for adjustment.
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TriRig wrote:
Something is NOT right there. My guess is that there isn't enough torque on the Wedge. You can safely go to 10 Nm there, which most people don't do at first. Can you increase torque and report back?

I just got my new bars installed tightened to 9 and the monopost slipped down while riding outdoors. Tightened to 10 and it dropped one line even while on the trainer for one hour. Any other ideas?
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I am considering getting the Alpha One bars, but a few different customers reporting loose or wobbly monoposts is a concern.

Has this always been solvable, or are there any stories of ongoing issues?
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Loose Monoposts? [b3njam1n0] [ In reply to ]
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  Have emailed back and forth with Tririg and going to try tightening the bolt to 12 Nm and loctite on the screw. 12 Nm had mine secure for several rides but I noticed it move a little when on the trainer while reaching for TV remote. I checked the tightness of screw and it had loosened some. I suppose from vibration. Hopefully the loctite will work.
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Have installed the Alpha One on my Argon 18 E-116. Just wondering if I've got this right, looking to lower the Alpha One as low as possible. The top headset bearing cover there I need to keep on... right? The Alpha One doesn't cover the bearing fully if it's not there. I do have the 1.5mm spacer in there. Would I be able to get a lower profile headset bearing cover like the TriRig Dustcovers?

Anyone familiar with Argon 18s? Where the headset bearing is now, is the the "3D" headset? Can I remove that and lower the bearing down into the frame? If so.. how? Or is this as "slammed" as I can get it? Google searches just get me more confused haha.



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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Hello, I've a question I assume will make the aero brain trust squirm, but want to know if anyone's epoxied a garmin mount to the Handlebar cavity cover? Any "you will ruin it" reason not to do this?

My extensions are too short (b/c I am short) to accomodate anything forward of my BTA bottle, and my face is too close to the BTA to put the garmin on top of it. Need an alternate plan.

Thanks.

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Hi all, wondering if anyone can enlighten me oN THE FOLLOWING.

1. On the Tririg's installation guide, the steerer was to be cut to 2-3mm below the surface of the integrated stem. Just curious why this required?

2. Can the steerer be cut flushed to the top of the integrated stem instead/or even left extending more to contact the underside of the stem cover, assuming the cables/hoses/wires have space to route around the sides of the steerer under the cover.

3. The stem cover sits on the stem only around the it's rim. It does not sit down against the top of the steerer tube/compression plug like a normal stem cap. However, when the stem cover bolt is tighten down, the stem cover gets compressed and flares out off shape.

Question: How many Nm should this stem cover bolt be tighten to?

3. How does this stem cover and bolt preload the headset bearings if it does not contact/push down the stem onto the headset bearing like a normal stem cap?

TIA!
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - steerer cut [Cloudberrie] [ In reply to ]
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1) Amount of steerer tube it needs to be safe, but optimize how much cable real estate you have.

2) Yes to above the stem, no to contacting the cover. You need some space for the cover to pull on the steerer tube and apply the appropriate preload.

3) This shouldn't happen. As you're tightening, hold the cover inline with the stem. The exact torque isn't very important here, just enough so if you were to rock the bike with the front brakes locked, there's no play in the headset. Probably in the range of 4-6Nm

4) It should push down on the stem re: 3
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - steerer cut [nonobovey] [ In reply to ]
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Hi nonobovey, thanks. I understand what you have mentioned, and these work for a conventional stem with a conventional stem cap & bolt. Not quite sure they apply to the Alpha One.

This is the steerer cut per Tririg's installation guide. 2-3mm below top of the stem.


This is the Alpha One's stem cap, or more correctly termed as the cable cover by Tririg. It's sort off an invert 'u' section, with the side rims extending lower then the under surface of the cover below the stem bolt.


When the cable cover is on, only it's side rims contacts the top on the stem. There is no way to get the under surface of the cover to contact and compress down on the top of the steerer (see the visible tread of the stem bolt in photo). If the stem bolts is further tighten, all it does is compress the cable cover causing it's side rims to flare outwards and deform out of shape.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - steerer cut [Cloudberrie] [ In reply to ]
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As I was not confident to apply torque and load to the stem cover, hereā€™s what Iā€™ve been doing on my alpha one:
- cut the steerer ~1mm below stem top
- put the alpha one on the fork
- put a conventional stem cap above the stem
- apply preload (I just stop screwing before the steering gets stuck)
- screw the stem side bolts to torque
- remove the conventional stem cap
- put the cover instead (no torque, itā€™s just a cover)
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - steerer cut [Cloudberrie] [ In reply to ]
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Cloudberrie wrote:
Hi nonobovey, thanks. I understand what you have mentioned, and these work for a conventional stem with a conventional stem cap & bolt. Not quite sure they apply to the Alpha One.

This is the steerer cut per Tririg's installation guide. 2-3mm below top of the stem.


This is the Alpha One's stem cap, or more correctly termed as the cable cover by Tririg. It's sort off an invert 'u' section, with the side rims extending lower then the under surface of the cover below the stem bolt.


When the cable cover is on, only it's side rims contacts the top on the stem. There is no way to get the under surface of the cover to contact and compress down on the top of the steerer (see the visible tread of the stem bolt in photo). If the stem bolts is further tighten, all it does is compress the cable cover causing it's side rims to flare outwards and deform out of shape.

What is the cover made out of? I had thought it was similar to the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate Stem where the cable cover is metal and functionally acts like a cap.
Make sure the expander plug isn't loose and everything else seats flushed. Ultimately, if that's not working, you can preload the stem (cable cover removed) with a normal cap +/- a spacer, tighten the pinch bolts, then remove the pre-loading cap and replace with the cable cover with just enough tightness to hold it in place.
If your headset is still giving you play, I'd disassemble it and give it a good cleaning/overhaul. It looks like there's a lot of gunk which could be the source of your problems.
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pwai wrote:
As I was not confident to apply torque and load to the stem cover, hereā€™s what Iā€™ve been doing on my alpha one:
- cut the steerer ~1mm below stem top
- put the alpha one on the fork
- put a conventional stem cap above the stem
- apply preload (I just stop screwing before the steering gets stuck)
- screw the stem side bolts to torque
- remove the conventional stem cap
- put the cover instead (no torque, itā€™s just a cover)


We thought alike! Except for my steerer being slightly shorter, i did exactly what you did. Hahaha!

Was just curious if this was how it was meant to be.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - steerer cut [Cloudberrie] [ In reply to ]
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That is the recommendation I always go with. In theory you can do preload with the stem cap but I always feel better about it with a normal cap. I also probably go slightly over the recommended 1nm for the cable cover but it can sometimes rotate a bit if it isn't very tight. A small crack in it isn't exactly a problem as long as you always have another stem cap around for installation.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - steerer cut [Cloudberrie] [ In reply to ]
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Cloudberrie wrote:
Hi all, wondering if anyone can enlighten me oN THE FOLLOWING.

2. Can the steerer be cut flushed to the top of the integrated stem instead/or even left extending more to contact the underside of the stem cover, assuming the cables/hoses/wires have space to route around the sides of the steerer under the cover.

3. ... However, when the stem cover bolt is tighten down, the stem cover gets compressed and flares out off shape.
hould this stem cover bolt be tighten to?

3. How does this stem cover and bolt preload the headset bearings if it does not contact/push down the stem onto the headset bearing like a normal stem cap?

TIA!


You hopefully have all your needed info but none-the-less, here was my experience.

Initially my steer tube was cut not quite as short as the instructions suggested. Don't know whether the mechanic was going from his general experience vs reading the instructions, but I experienced lots of loosening of my headet assembly. Overall, IDK whether the issue initiated from the length of my steer tube, or maybe more likely - from the kind of compression fitting I had. It was the one previously on the bike (Cannondale Slice) the top cap for which possessed an interior sheath that used to slip inside the interior of the steer tube. My take is this served to place the compression assembly at a certain depth from the top end of the steer tube. My compression wedge thingie didn't seem to stay tight enough and was slipping, I think. Setting the preload was difficult - as you and I observed, the Tririg cover deflects under not-much load, and since I was unable to use my orinal stem cover for this purpose, I grabbed a large diameter washer. Still had the loosening issue, though.

End result: I went to an alternate mechanic (& owner) at the shop that did this work for me and he swapped my compression fitting - from what I see with it installed it doesn't look like the kind I had before, rather has a different top that reminds me of that metal flange that I'd seen in steel headtubes. He also cut a little more of the length off the steer tube. I still use the washer for setting the preload, though unfortunately it does deflect under the load.

Hope you like your new setup. Mine is a pain in the ass bc the slice itself is a pain in the ass to get the fork into position and my travel packs involve a high degree of bike origami.

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Thanks @reabdeal and @Tsunami for sharing. There's no play/movement in my headset at the moment, so all's good for now.

To easy my own trepidation, I manage to find two small alum spaces to take up the space between the cover and the top of the steerer/comp plug now. At least when I tighten the cover bolt down, it has something to push against and doesn't flex.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - steerer cut [realbdeal] [ In reply to ]
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A different question - it seems like the smaller bolt of the monopost is stuck for me - can't seem to take it out, and already part of it is now stripped..
Looks like it has quite a bit of salt qeound it, tried warm water but still no success..

Any tips or ideas?
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - steerer cut [Discus] [ In reply to ]
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Do you mean the one on top of the bar just in front of the monopost? In theory that doesn't need to ever come out. It's just there to keep the wedge from falling out when the monopost isn't installed.

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Re: TriRig Alpha One - steerer cut [realbdeal] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah I meant that one (in front of the monopost, the small 2.5 allen one).

So the reason my monopost won't move is because of the salt around it and not because of that bolt I guess?
Had to figure it out in order not to break anything..
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Loose Monoposts? [Dgreg] [ In reply to ]
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Dgreg wrote:
Have emailed back and forth with Tririg and going to try tightening the bolt to 12 Nm and loctite on the screw. 12 Nm had mine secure for several rides but I noticed it move a little when on the trainer while reaching for TV remote. I checked the tightness of screw and it had loosened some. I suppose from vibration. Hopefully the loctite will work.

By chance, have you resolved the slipping? Just built up bike and having same issues even at 12nm. Didn't try Loctite yet (blue or red?).
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Loose Monoposts? [Xing triathlete] [ In reply to ]
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  I finally had the slipping resolved by applying park tool super grip to the monopost and blue loctite to the threads at 12nm.
Everything was fine until I decided to get refit. The loctite made a mess in the threads. The stuff hardened in there and the screw would not stay tight after the refit. It managed to stay tight for Chattanooga but the following week it loosened back up again.
I ended up getting a soldering iron and heating up the hardened loctite and was able to remove a lot of it. I reapplied the super grip and more loctite ,for now it seems to be holding.
If I had it to do over from the start I would not use loctite just the super grip stuff. I probably used too much loctite. Just be aware that the super grip is very gritty and will scratch up the monopost.
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Re: TriRig Alpha One - Gamma one [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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We didn't know how stable the aero stem cap would be to tightening down on that for a preload (it's carbon, right? not aluminum?). The mechanic grabbed another cap to use to pre-load, then tightened the stem bolts, then changed out that temp cap for the aero one.
nonobovey wrote:
Make sure the expander plug isn't loose and everything else seats flushed. Ultimately, if that's not working, you can preload the stem (cable cover removed) with a normal cap +/- a spacer, tighten the pinch bolts, then remove the pre-loading cap and replace with the cable cover with just enough tightness to hold it in place.
realbdeal wrote:
That is the recommendation I always go with. In theory you can do preload with the stem cap but I always feel better about it with a normal cap. I also probably go slightly over the recommended 1nm for the cable cover but it can sometimes rotate a bit if it isn't very tight. A small crack in it isn't exactly a problem as long as you always have another stem cap around for installation.

Has anyone found a proper work-around for this? On my first install, I heard a cracking sound & backed off immediately. I used a secondary top cap to finish the preload then after tightening the pinch bolts, placed the aero cap with maybe a quarter turn, just enough to keep it in place. I greased the bolts beforehand & used carbon paste on the steerer, seatpost, etc - all the standard stuff. After browsing through this thread I'm seeing that others have come up with similar solutions independently. My "flat kit" & travel checklist now include a secondary spacer & top cap for preload. No issues anywhere else on the bar. The monopost & angle adjustment are solid.

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I do the same as the other have mentioned.

1. use a normal stem cap to preload to 4nm.
2. tighten the two(2) stem bolts.
3. remove the normal stem cap.
3. install the aero stem cap and tighten just enough till it cannot be shifted/moved by hand.

the only thing i have done differently now, is that i manage to get hold of two(2) M6 alum spaces to put between the hollow space below the aero stem cap and the top of the expander plug. This way, even if i tighten the aero stem cap down, there is no longer any space below for it to squish out of shape.
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