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Looking for a slick frame with horizontal dropouts for a fixie build
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I'm going to build a fixed gear bike, mostly for just piddling around for extra miles and some commuting. But, I want it to be capable of hauling a$$ if I ride with some of the other hammerheads, maybe even take it to the Dick Lane Velodrome (as a newbie to track cycling) here in Atlanta.

I don't want to put much $$$ as this is just a 'fun' project that may have the benefits of improving while just having 'fun' riding without the OCD training mentality.

Thinking along the lines of an old aluminum cervelo P2sl. It's pretty perfect for what I'm looking to do here. I've priced out some of these, and some P2Cs, circa 2006-2009, and it looks like they are pretty cheap whilst still being quality stuff.

size? 56 would be perfect. I can make a 54 work for this thing if needed.

Do you have any other bikes I should look for? Do you have any of these ^^^ that you could part with to get that garage or basement a little more cleaned out?

Maybe this should have gone in the main forum first for the ideas and then brought the search to here but, wth, since when did I start doing things that make sense?....




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Last edited by: morpheus: Sep 11, 17 18:02
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Re: Looking for a slick frame with horizontal dropouts for a fixie build [morpheus] [ In reply to ]
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Fixed gear wheels are 120mm axle spacing, while road/tri frames are 130mm. If you're going to squeeze the frame in to close that gap i'd look for something steel.
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Re: Looking for a slick frame with horizontal dropouts for a fixie build [quadlt250] [ In reply to ]
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noted, will dig into this. wouldn't have even thought about that.




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Re: Looking for a slick frame with horizontal dropouts for a fixie build [morpheus] [ In reply to ]
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I've got a sweet Specialized Langster - chrome. 56. It's really only been used for bike commuting about a mile to and from work... And on maybe two 15 mile road rides.

I can send pictures if you DM me an email as it won't let me upload photos via mobile on ST right now
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Re: Looking for a slick frame with horizontal dropouts for a fixie build [tribucket] [ In reply to ]
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thanks. pm sent.




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Re: Looking for a slick frame with horizontal dropouts for a fixie build [morpheus] [ In reply to ]
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Some things to think about in buying a "road" bike vs a track bike

as above, spacing issues - often you have just enough room for track nuts to fit on, but often not enough to get full engagement of threads into nuts... should be...ok, but the possibility exists for it not to have enough to hold, which ends poorly. You can replace the axles in a wheel with a 130 as opposed to a 120 for a few dollars.

chain length - I don't know any non track bikes with long dropouts. Basically means you'll have a tough time changing gears without multiple length chains (you'll also probably need a half link)

You might have to be slightly cautious with BB's/cranks. Some are very narrow q factor, rubbing a stay is possibly an issue. (SRAM ominium uses a gxp w/cups, probably eliminates this issue)

You mention dick lane... just know if racing is something you might pursue in the future... DLV has some odd rules. One of them that they often list is not allowing converted road bikes. I've never seen it enforced, but ymmv, I have seen it posted on their fliers before.

All that said, all those problems are pretty easily overcome. Nonetheless, for the price you can buy a good road conversion you can also probably find a good aero aluminum track bike (Fuji Pro's, S Langsters, Felt TK's, Jamis Sonic, Trek T1, probably not a cervelo t1 as those seem to have a cult following.)

*fwiw I have an old p3sl I use on the track some, so it is certainly possible.

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Re: Looking for a slick frame with horizontal dropouts for a fixie build [morpheus] [ In reply to ]
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I have a 56 All City Thunderdome in chrome & black.
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Re: Looking for a slick frame with horizontal dropouts for a fixie build [Morelock] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the tips. You guys have me convinced to stick to a dedicated fixed gear bike. I don't think that I will be 'converting'. Also, appreciate that info on DLV. I look forward to learning the ropes down there (I'm up in the N'East burbs) so I know that I don't know anything about track cycling....other than the fact that I want to diversify my riding over the next few years and track stuff sounds fun.




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Re: Looking for a slick frame with horizontal dropouts for a fixie build [morpheus] [ In reply to ]
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If you do still want to try a conversion, take a look at the Eno Eccentric hub from White Industries. You can get it with 130 mm spacing and build a rear wheel to put on a frame with vertical dropouts, and the eccentricity gives enough room to tension the chain properly.

You will still need a chain sized correctly, but probably not the half link.

To get a straight chainline, you might consider some of the SRAM 1Ă— rings that dish inward a bit.

I built up a wheel that worked well with my 90's Kestrel 200SC, and keep meaning to try it on my Shiv...

http://www.whiteind.com/eno/
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