I just hope for the sake of the women and children you guys aren't wearing speedos! :)

i'm borrowing kenny souza's. fire and fury, baby. fire and fury.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

You are a brave man..... don't forget the Oakleys!

I am not 60 (yet), but that is some good trash-talk for that age.

  There are some things you should know about Slowman and most of them are good. Though I'd never say it in a public forum he's not a bad guy for someone who hides in the psuedo mountains of SoCal and operates as a Great Oz behind the Slow-Curtain of a thinly-veiled datapshere. But against some odds, Slowman is a stand-up dude--as we say--but will go down in the 23rd running of the oldest offroad triathlon in the galaxy. ST accepts said 60-challenge and extends it to anyone who is not tempted to the Tennessee Tatoo brandfest on the same weekend. http://www.active.com/...thlons-2017-34749622
ST

Not to beat a dead horse but did the registration really have to be with Active???

I am seeing a $6.39 'processing fee' for the $75 sprint race. Unless my math is off that's an 8.5% fee and if you need a day USAT membership the $75 race will actually cost $96.39. No matter how much winning you get done Active will be the clear champion.

Having a real hard time wanting to drive 450 miles for a 1 hour race.

Plus, as I always will say, most folks can fake a sprint race, while doing an Olympic one has to be in shape.

But, your post in injury, body status is why so many older folks are now doing the sprint. That is basically all they can do, starting with the run.

I first need to see if I can get through Penticton healthy. And after doing the LC Tri, my recovery might be such that even doing a sprint maybe too much.
I really do want to come down and support Tim. I also would love to have the honor to say we raced together, and I could care less who "wins".
So is Mark going to race? How about Scott?

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Darn! First time I've been too young for something in a long time!

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Come race anyways. You young folks can kill us

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Lions don't lose sleep worrying about the sheep

good stuff guys!

I tried a small online registration company as an alternative last year and with similar numbers they came in at all of 13cents cheaper. a grand total of one person used the alternative registration option.

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Did I see the making of the thread entitled:

"H20Dave defeats Empfiled and Tinley off a sub 40 min 10K and crappy swim-bike"

Why don't you just change the title of this thread now and get it over with?

I thought I read somewhere that ST has had a hip replacement.

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dave, you've been throwing down for some years now, calling me out to drive TWICE the distance to your back yard. so, here we have a race, up in the beautiful sierras, midway between you and me, in the tall trees where you like to race, during the best sierra summer we've had in years because we had the best winter we've had in years.

here's your chance, big boy! you can take the big man down! the big enchilada! (oh, and you can take tinley down too.)

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

come on across, david! i know you, and your problem is you're just not busy enough. you just have too much free time on your hands. you ought to volunteer more!

anyway, here you go. come on out and see if you throw down a time that will scare us in the older AGs; send a signal that fire and fury is coming our way once you age up!

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Dan, actually, your comments make me want to do it less. I race for fun. I never race to "beat" someone. I know I am not that good. I just have been lucky with lots of hard work that for me, I have done okay. I would be honored to race with you and all the other legends in our sport. To even be talked about could I beat someone is fun. But what fun, you are not the athlete you used to be.

I have been having the wife work basically 7 days a week for ages with all my racing this year. I am not sure after the penticton trip, etc., that this is going to happen. Yea, she would do for me, but, ... She does not even get off work until 5, and since I go to bed at 7, driving at night is not my thing.

So we shall see, but the more this becomes something other than friends having fun, the less I have any desire to "race".

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alrighty, dave. but you know where i'll be if you want to have some fun with the old men.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Dan, actually, your comments make me want to do it less. I race for fun. I never race to "beat" someone

Allow me to butt in, hey Dave, "lighten up bro "

Anyone willing to do Periscope updates so we can all watch this epic battle?

i know ONE way you can watch this epic battle!

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

My excuse is 5.45 times better than Dave's. It's 2453 miles from my house to the race site.

Looks like a great weekend of racing. Sprint races certainly aren't FAKE NEWS as I'm sure the ITU elites can testify. Have fun!

Darn again - You actually talked me into it , but I went to register and it is the same weekend at 70.3WC . . . so, can I have a raincheck to visit?

FYI - over on this end of the country, you would be invited to Hincapie Grand Fondo on 10/21 . . . Let's just say that we have an elite groups of insiders that you would enjoy. Great event.

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Snowflake.

Sure wish I was closer. I'd love to bring Bill L and have an even older guy race with y'all. I may still have a pair of ST shorts in the closet.....

I'd love to get up there and take it (You & Scott) on. Unfortunately, I've already signed up for Pacific Coast Tri.
Besides, I'd have to practice my backwards running technique to watch how far behind you two would be! :p

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hincapie GF. can't go on 10/21: interbike. but i'll get out there. and i'll give you a raincheck out here.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

if you want to know how far behind you i will be, i'll be at the tiki swim which i suspect you'll be racing as well. i'm going to do the shorter version, the 1 miler, the no wetsuit division. i think you'll almost certainly be in the no wetsuit long course race.

i woke up a few weeks ago with the smell of coppertone, zinc oxide and strips in my nose. do you remember strips? maybe this was just an HB City thing. zacks and vics? basically fried things that were partway between tortilla chips and wonton strips with some kind of tomato like sauce squirted over the top. yum!

and then i knew i had to enter the non-wetsuit version. memories of beach life in the 60s, like the force, is strong with this one.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Pure savagery. I got a huge laugh out of both these little snippets.

Out of Dan, Scott, and Dave, at 60+, I can see two clear examples to want to emulate in 18 years here.......... LOL!

-Eric

Strips - oh man, I remember those! We used to snag them by the Balboa Ferry - island side. No idea what that sauce was & probably shouldn't, but it was amazing stuff.
Yep I'm in at the Tiki Swim. I've only lost one year, when I was 59 and Bryan Buck was there aged up - 10 year AGs.
It's a pretty tough schedule I have, commencing with Casco Bay Swimrun - Long course this weekend, Don Burns Mile the 19th (iffy), Maui Channel Swim relay on the 2nd and Waikiki Roughwater on the 4th. Then Pac Coast on 10th & Tiki Swim the 17th. And then, Mike Collins invited me to do the La Jolla 10 mile relay on the 24th. If not that, the Nadadore Mile swim in Lake Mission Viejo. Lord help me get through this!

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Proud member of FISHTWITCH: doing a bit more than fish exercise now.

You guys should invite Kevin Moats. I believe he's 62. lol

i am one magnanimous bastard. everyone is welcome. i don't care who i beat.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Only 2h drive for us unfortunate valley dwellers.
Beautiful location, but I am sure altitude will get more than one. Swim is at 7000ft so...

that's why god invented backstroke. i hope i see you there. this race is the kind of race we should all be going to. this is the kind of race we all used to go to.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

 I may still have a pair of ST shorts in the closet.....[/quote]========================
never thought i'd see this. as it turns out, i do have such a pair in my closet.
peggy

I'm not sure you have what it takes, Slowman. I mean.....what's your USAT ranking?

You guys are such a cute couple:

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Well dang, it's 2000 miles away or I'd pack up my purty 1987 Centurion, Dave Scott Ironman and come and put the smack down on youse guys. I did just win my AG for the first time ever earlier this summer at 63. Heck, I thought I'd need to age up to at least 70 to have a shot . . . Seriously, sounds like you are going to be having a great time.

i'll say one thing for dave and i that you lavender room guys can't claim for yourselves: he and i still swim, bike and run!

now, pursuant to that, and dave this is for you, i just google mapped it. your drive is exactly 5 hours. mine is exactly 7 hours. just sayin'!

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

I still bike and run (shocking that I don't swim, eh). And if I didn't live 3000 some odd miles away, I'd be there and do it. And I'd get crushed by you and the water chicken even though you're about ten years older than me.

Wasn't there a prior event where you guys were supposed to go head to head? This duel is more elusive than Mayweather/McGregor

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Someone has had a hip replacement done. Are we sure running and a hip replacement is a good fit as if reality is an aqua bike event is going to occur?

yeah. he wanted me to come race donner lake a few years ago and i was up for it. i love that area. it's basically his hometown race. but i got injured.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

there's got to be a run. i don't care if it's 3mi, 2mi, 1mi. i don't care if you sprint it, jog it, walk it, crawl it. but there has to be a run.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Are you refering to Tinley. He has a Birmingham Hip Resurfacing and he can run all he wants to one it. I know, I have two of them and I run four days a week.

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This is shaping up to be the ultimate ST non smackdown:

1. Everyone has a chance to take down one of the big 4 and so far the only 60 something dude to commit is slowman
2. Slowman himself has a variety of broken body parts. It seems this would be the chance for everyone to make him hurt
3. H20Dave could have the ultimate ST bragging rights by taking down Mr. ST and Mr ST (the triathlon ST and the forum chief ST dude) and is chickening out because there are insufficient USAT points on deck ? Or something about a 5 hour drive, yet he is willing to go to Penticton where the USAT points on deck are massive due to strength of field.

So basically there is a chance we have 0/3 actually do anything? Come on, we need some entertainment around here now that the booing of Gatlin is largely over (Saturday to come), Contador about to retire, and Brownlee opting for surgery in fear of being beaten at Chattanooga by an aero optimized Kileyay.

i'm going to be bringing a collection of basically new wetsuits (everything i've reviewed this year), several thousand dollars of wetsuits, and everyone in my AG who beats me gets to pick the one he wants. hopefully it's his size.

heck, if you're in any AG 50-or-over and you beat me you can have your choice. if 4 guys beat me, 4 guys get wetsuits, until the wetsuit inventory is exhausted. and i didn't pee in any of them. if you beat me i hope you're my size.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Hey, if you can't have fun at this event then you just can't (I know, never end a sentence with a contraction). I know it's late and it's at altitude and sorry-we used Active (not really) and it's not a qualifier and it's not a brand and Tim Cohee (owner of China Peak and a good AG athlete) are just trying to keep this decades-long gig going. But we're gonna do this with 50 people or 500 and the kids are gonna race and we're gonna drink beer at the end and take our clothes off and jump in the river and get up in the morning and do it again. And if Slowman kicks my ass, so be it. But I doubt it.

this last part. that last 2 sentences. thank you. that's what makes it interesting.

oh, and one more thing bubba. is it really a contraction or a preposition you're not supposed to end a sentence with? (see what i did there?)

you're the one with the doctorate in english so you ought to know.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Peggy, did I leave them there? Or was that the other Scott?

ummmmm…..i believe you have the wrong peggy.

what's a little metal between friends and competitors? I forgot about my hip resurfacing until someone brought it up. Off to the track now with visions of Slowman writhing in agony on the side of the trail with his quads cramped all the way into his next life.

Unless those wetsuits come with USAT points that exceed Penticton, your chances of H2ODave stepping up to destroy Mr. (ST)**2, is asymptotically converging toward zero. But I used asymptotic convergence just to leave H20Dave an opening to go whip everyone's butt and brag about how bad you guys run for the next year. Come on Dave, that alone has to be worth the sacrifice of the USAT points. Contador is retiring soon, so we won't have anything to talk about around here unless this smackdown materializes.

Oh, and last time H20Dave was going to school me on proper running, I flew all the way across the continent and then drove on Saturday morning 5 hours San Jose to Tahoe to race him at IM Lake Tahoe (forget about the swim+bike, he was going to smack me on the run only) but then he had a family issue. Another time, I did the same and made it all the way across for Wildflower cross continent and then 4 hours of driving and then he chickened out of the half IM and my run was so slow he could have moon walked the entire run and beat my time. Now, I am out of commission for running, but hoping for next year to join all you guys in an actual triathlon. Right now my triathlon are swim-swim-swim, but I am covering more mileage in the pool than the average runner does running, so I'm counting it as "mileage" vs "yardage".

Is there going to be a front page article on this smackdown....smackdowns have always been an integral part of the sport. It was better in the old days when there were not that many races and all the big guns raced often head to head (minus Dave Scott, all cooped up in Davis staring at his stem like Chris Froome, long before Froome even existed)

the track?

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Danny-Boy: I'm only trained in dangling participles. But I can see how cheeky your tactics are (note ending on prep.). I'm ready to go bust out 12x400 on the 2 min. and you keep sucking me back into this little barb-a-thon. And I have to say that this whole race directing thing is stressful. How am I supposed to put 3 minutes on you in the water when I'm keeping an eye (tense shift) on the other slow swimmers? And if that seems like a crappy excuse, well...(note only 3 ellipses) I stand guilty as accused.

I will concede to you fuckers right now and save myself the embarrasment.....I have never been in you guys time zone and right now the best I can manage is swim, bike, limp

pics or it didn't happen.

if i come out on your feet i'll know it's because you spent all your training time toiling over producing this race ;-)

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Express fittings in the expo area? I know quite a few from the local tri club (TC3) that are going for sure

okay then. let's make some sort of deal. i'll do 1 express fitting, no charge, for every 75 people who register for this or any race occurring as part of this shindig. get to work!

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

I miss all the fun.

-bobo

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"What's good for me ain't necessarily good for the weak-minded."

Can you allocate one of those for H2ODave BEFORE he races you, or only after?

I know ST's race is old-school and I love that. But this Slowman-ST death match needs to be live streamed for those of us out east! Or at least have some enterprising young Slowtwitcher take it live on Facebook or something.

And last, pics or it didn't happen!

Awesome, gentlemen!

No kidding. After all these years, and all the posts, and all the sniping ... the chance to race with legends is .. suddenly meh.

REALLY???

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I'm pretty sure Dan is being sarcastic with all his trash talking...isn't this exactly the type of fun racing, hanging out with friends and giving each other a hard time (in a good-natured way) about race results that just hours ago in the other thread you said you love to do...????

Would be awesome to come see and race this!

I'm not 60, just past the midway point a few years back so 35.

But, one if my VERY first triathlons in high school almost 20 years ago was Tinley's in Lopez Lake.

That crazy race, in a 2nd hand bell bottom wetsuit from Goodwill, on a Wal-Mart wanna be mountain bike that I'm surprised didn't blow up on the course, got me into a lifelong love of multisport.

That has to account for something right?!

The good old days...

Tempting... I might see you in October!

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I think I really know what is going on. The "Dave" from the big 4 (not to be confused with H20Dave) got wind of this 60+ challenge and hunkered down in his old bunker in Davis for some early 80's style monk training totally solo. Except Davis is not far from H20Dave and H20Dave's spies got wind of Mr. Scott making a celebrity appearance in which case H20Dave has no chance of of the fastest run split among this new age 60+ Big 4 and worse yet is that slowman's viking friends who gave us the awesome Norseman livestream might be conned into showing Dave Scott getting the fastest run split. So this explains H20Dave's waffling because he can't show up and not have the fastest run split. It's the only explanation I can concoct. So Dave (as in the non Kona winner Dave), what's your real explanation for the waffling. 5 hour drive is not an excuse!!!

450 miles, what's that, a 7 hour drive? Last year I drove 18 hours each way for 11 minutes of racing. What's your excuse?

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2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly

it's actually 275mi. but who's counting?

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Only 275 miles for a date with Scott Tinley? My wife would have said it in 1991 and would say it again, "Dev would not drive that far to see me, but to go hang out with anyone from the Big 4, he'll ride that far....heck he'll even run it if he's forced to and if push comes to shove he's start swimming 3 months out to cover the distance". Does H20Dave need my wife to authorize me to build a hyperloop leg from his house to this race start line?????

It's actually funny because I was late for a dinner date this week in Tremblant with my wife....."why were you 30 minutes late ???"....looks at me with that look from 25 years ago when I extended ANOTHER WORKOUT and was late..... Me, "I was swimming and former IM record Holder Marino Vanhoenacker showed up and was in the lane beside me....what do you want me to do, show up to dinner on time with you or try to spend an extra half hour trying to keep up with Marino?". She rolls eyeballs and knows what the "correct answer is". It's not even worth fighting. So I don't really get why Dave's wife is not kicking him out the door saying, "Shit you're training 21 hours per week so just go man up and race Tinley"....all of this is too confusing for me.

One thing that Slowman and I DO share is an affinity for Bruce Cockburn lyrics. This one in particular goes out to anyone--regardless of age, race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation or seat height: "The trouble with normal is that it only gets worse." So, if in a near-Orwellian and future period your race choices are sleuthed down to a Beijing-based, central party of one, perhaps you might remember that back in early September of 2017 there was a choice. ST

and we will be racing "up among the firs where it smells so sweet."

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Pussy

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Keep it running for another 3 years, and I'll be there: me and my Softride...(yes, the correct 3) I can probably dig out some hideous 80's tri suits too! After all it's only 11,300km (:

This thread has had me spitting my coffee all over the place. Thanks for brightening up a shitty, shitty day!

FIFY

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Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly

I just found my Oakley factory Pilots in a box last month......I would require all 60's racing to rock the speedo with a cropped singlet........If I could get there from Minnesota I would show up just to boost y'alls self esteem.....(yeah, originally from Atlanta Georgia...)

This should be required attire...Kona 85



I still have one of these tri suits below (Kona 1991 I believe). ST is rocking one of his trademark suits and one of Dan's bikes

Wondering where is that lion?

most likely right here if you're cockburn. but that's an entirely new subject.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

race both days, or all 3! Treat it like a stage race. Then you'd be driving 450 miles for a 3-hour race.

I just put in for that Saturday off, and if I can get that. I'll be driving about 400 miles for this thing. Too much fun to miss

coffee met keyboard. thanks.

Excellent! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kybkiiAKMOY

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Going to +1 this one. :-)

Geezer Wars!!! (I can say that 'cause I'm one, too). I love it!!

buy a ticket, man. it'll cost you $75 to see it live and from a prime vantage point.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

This. You are right this is a huge smackdown event. Epic like I haven't seen epic since the two Swedes training out of a camper. I really wish I could be there and do this race.

Water Chicken's lack of interest is more than confusing. Combined with his no-shows at races against slowtwitchers, his apathy is downright suspicious.

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James Golman's book, The Lion in Winter came out the year we turned 10. You don't want to mess with a sleeping lion; particularly in early winter. Some years ago, I had the opportunity to spend a day with that perennial lion, Jack Lalanne and when I asked him about "warming up" before we did a little workout he offered, "do you see sleeping lions 'warming up' before they chase a giraffe?" It seems that Slowman's challenge has awoken a few lions. Who needs power meters when you have muscle memory, desire, and a big sack?

This post wins the thread at least!

I'll give you 2 seconds as I'm two years younger than you :-)

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Threads not done yet.

Not saying I have the chops to throw down something to compete with the above post, just that when you factor in the multiple. ST's involved, h2o panicking and hitting the eject button when the opportunity arises to finally back up all the big talk, the multiple lavender room participants in the thread, as well as the smattering of regulars who have disdain for certain others, this one could have a post that releases fire and fury the likes of which the world has never seen before.

So far, it's already made for some of the best reading for me as an st novice since I discovered the T3 thread

the only real bummer to all of this is the place itself. i mean, who really wants to do a triathlon in a place like this?



but i guess i'll just have to suffer through it to gain the glory.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

That's very bigly of you to do that.

Screw it, I'm signing up for Sunday at least. Not sure how well my long travel downhill bike will fare against the xc bikes others will be riding, but I bet I beat most of you out of the water. Including H2O Dave if he can sack up and show up.

Hopefully I will be able to make it up there in time to do both Saturday and Sunday, so I can fail miserably two days in a row.

And even more hopefully I won't get spanked too badly by guys 20 years my senior.

I think Tinley just told H2ODave that he has no muscle memory, desire nor sack.

Did I miss anything? You know when you have arrived when you got Tinley calling you for staying all cooped up in the foothills of the Sierras avoiding racing him. It seems like some time ago, this smack talk would have been reserved for Dave Scott, but now it's H20Dave!!!!

my gesture - this i can tell you - the world has never seen the likes of it.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Would love the opportunity to take you up on the challenge but that's a 'fer distance to travel for me. Plus you guys have home field advantage. Bring it to the Midwest and I'll bring it!

I think now everyone on the forum can with pleasure ignore all H2ODave posts, threads, replies, USAT ranking, etc.

Same state, over 60, with some of the legends of the sport and a total no-show...

WTF is going on. Did H20Dave go into some kind of an ST self-exile. I figured all the shaming would get him to "sign up" to smack Scott Tinley on the run and did not open this thread for an entire day and then open it up expecting him to be telling Tinley why his run sucks so badly and he's not willing to hurt on the run and that H2ODave will show him how to hurt at this smackdown, but no luck? What's going on? Did H20Dave sign up with Dave Scott for some kind of "smack Tinley" patented training plan and neither of these Daves will man up and instead they are eating vegeterian, straining cottage cheese and doing endless soloman miles around Davis avoiding the entire world while the rest of the world actually has fun?

Kick his ass Seabass!

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Oh how I wish I could show and go down swinging...The Glory of fighting with everything you have with the knowledge that you have no chance....

Waterchicken go suck eggs if you can't figure out a way to toe this starting line!

and I quote (with a slight modification of the last words):

" go by, from this day to the end of time, without our being remembered: we few, we happy few, we band of brothers—for whoever sheds his blood with me today shall be my brother. However humble his birth, this day shall grant him nobility. And men back in English now safe in their beds will curse themselves for not having been here, and think less of their own manhood when they listen to the stories of those who fought with us here on ST Triathlon Race Day."

nuff said Snowflake.....

wow this looks like fun. Have always wanted to go up to that area to train and not made it yet.
Despite running about 15 miles total in past 4 months, might have to try to finagle a way to get up to race.

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obviously i would love to see how much of the old posse we can get. in the old old days catalina was kind of the season-ending party race. i'm thinking this may end up being that race (for me). nothing against races in less scenic places, but for me - just personally - that's less inviting these days. there's got to be a bit more of a draw and there is nothing like the high sierras for me. i go there for training a couple of times a year anyway, so it's not like i'm not already going. it's just that this time there'll be a race there.

what i'd like to see with THIS race is that it develop into a real destination event that is as much social as competitive. i have nothing in particular to do with the race, it's not an advertiser of ours, i paid my entry just like everyone, i just think certain races that deserve to be patronized should be highlighted.

i hope you guys can make it. i haven't seen you in awhile.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Damn, so wish I wasn't commited on this weekend. Would love to be there to witness all the smack down, but more just to be there for the start of the race at this venue. The photo you showed earlier is amazing! Hoping to hear great stories of the weekend and all of the festivities!

uncommit on this weekend. "aqaba is over there. it's only a matter of going."

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Family stuff ... someone is racing in Santa Cruz, and it might be the last race i get to watch of theirs, before they move to Europe for 3 years or more, soooo .... I think I have to do the right thing.

i understand. just, if you decide to do the fun thing instead of the right thing we'll see you there ;-)

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

all set, ran 2 miles yesterday and today and didn't die so think I can finish the run. Entry paid for the sprint and room book at China Peak, count me in.

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that's the spirit!

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

This is NOT a Bruce Cockburn lyric! Good one

Babbit will crush both of you like an egg shell and he has at least 5 years on you two! As a former employee of BB I might just have to load up the horse and buggy and come watch the 3 of you duke it out.

Duke's racing too????? ;-) Get him in and the show will get even crazier.

tinley might beat me if he has a rocket launcher.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Careful what you wish for...I heard he asked Pigg if he could borrow his seat shifter and j-disc.

Twilkas--
I know you're not 60, and you're far away, but I can totally see you jump into this smackdown! :)

bt

Not sure why so many want to do a Sprint. Sprint distance is for old people.

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i'm old!

plus, i'm hoping to do 3 races in 3 days. the old bones will only last so far.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

 

i'm old!
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you don't know old.
peggy

Mind over matter. I am not old yet. :) If I can try to do 5 races at Penticton worlds in 10 days, starting Sat, with the last race being a 3/4 ironman distance, no way do I think I am old. :)

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h2ofun wrote:

Not sure why so many want to do a Sprint.

Just as much fun as an Oly, but takes half the time.

I hope you are in training. I am 2 races done and 2 to go.

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You are doing all the races in Penticton including 3/4 IM. That's pretty badass if you pull that off!

well, i'm never actually in training, and i'm never entirely not training. i'm doing what the 60 year old body can do.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

I am trying to get the award for Multisport Legend, which is having to complete 4 races, one of which has to be the LC Tri or LC Aquabike. I have completed 2 now with the DL Sprint DU, and NDL Std Du. I have the Aquathlon on Friday and yep,I am dumb enough to try the LC Tri on Sunday in the hot weather. I have only ridden my bike once for 2 hours outside. I have never run over 90 minutes this year. So, I am testing the idea can one finish a 3/4 IM with only Olympic training. And I did say just finish, not race. My bike has been SO bad here that it shall be interesting. But am sure glad I have my 50/34 11/32 gearing from what the folks who have pre ridden the bike course have stated.

I had considered doing the cross tri yesterday but after talking before the race to folks about how technical it was, and my lack of any mountain bike skills, decided I would be smart to just keep on my goal for 4 races, especially since my A race is Friday.

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Good luck Dave!

smart call on the "cross tri" you're doing enough already.

Enjoy the journey. The grandkids have a tough grandpa to look up (and I mean up) to! :-)

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I saw this on a white board in a window box at my daughters middle school...
List of what life owes you:
1. __________
2. __________
3. __________

Thanks Keith. I raced against Mark Evans on Monday in the std Du, and even though he put 7 minutes on me on the bike, I still beat him by 3 minutes. And ST folks say you cannot win on the run with a sucky bike. :)

I am very very concerned about the LC tri being a 3/4 IM with no IM distance training. But, will see. Just hoping my legs do
not cramp, and my butt survives riding in my bike shorts.

Way to kick butt in the last TBF race with your broken ribs and road rash. You really showed you are tough enough

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Dave, with you 20 hours per week training plan, it does not matter how long your single duration workouts are for a single sport. You have plenty of volume to handle the 3/4 IM or even if you wanted the ultraman (so I am told about my own 14-20 hrs per week of training by the UM guys). You should be set.

As for legend, dude, you are running sub 40 min 10K at 60 in a tri already so you're "auto-legend". Now if we can just get your bike and swim up to your run and you'll be lapping slowman ,Tinley and Dave Scott !!!

You're just living "endurance junkie lifestyle". There is never a time when you are not exercising with a "performance angle'. It does not matter how broken or slow the bodies are vs former capacity, the endurance junkie lifestyle guy will race himself, anywhere any time with whatever is left, in whatever sport is at hand in every workout. You can't extract that from your DNA!!!

Recently I started doing the Jacobs ladder (basically an endless fireman ladder) at the gym as a rehab tool under the coaxing of a work colleague who used it in her rehab. Never used the machine in my life. 2 weeks later, I am the 'record holder' at my gym for 5 min climb and 10 min climb. I could not help myself....there was a chart on the wall beside the machine where you enter your 'best performance'. Well first I fumbled around on the machine to get the coordination...then I checked out what people are doing on youtube.....came back to the machine and played around a bit more.....got suckered looking at the numbers on the wall that others posted thinking, "wow, that would be tough"....a few workouts later, "I can beat those guys". 2 weeks later, I am the world champion of my local gym in an entirely useless competition probably with people who don't have the same engine as we do....I can't help help myself, even with this broken spine LOL....for the record 5 min climb 565 feet, 10 min climb 1025 ft.

Thanks. I was really proud of my 19:16 5K run at the end of the std du. For my 4 run in 2 days, it was a killer. But give me a race, and mentally I can go places others do not dare go to.

I need to play more with the bike. Since riding in my race a week ago on armadio's and being SO slow, I also need to just see if I have some bike issues. I am now riding worlds with a training wheel so totally untested stuff. Was thinking of having my studly biker friend try my bike to just see if having better wheels, etc might help. I know I am the issue with the bike,but maybe it is not 100% me.

As I have said, yes, if my times were like a 30 year old I would be a gold medal person. But at 60, folks are just blown away here on how I can run. They are also blown away on how slow I am on the bike. :( There are a few others around my age that can run, but very very few. All of these sure kill me on the bike. Will see how it goes on the swim tomorrow.

Am hoping my training is enough. But, for my butt? For my back? For my legs on the 18 mile run at the end? We shall see if I am mentally, let alone physically, tough enough. But boy is the pressure on. Everywhere I go I hear the comments about going for legend.Even the announcer talks about it when I run by the finish line area. I have talked a few other friends into going for it so it really is fun.

One goal I have for my shorter races was to again run sub 7 pace for all of them. So far I am 4 for 4. I just need one more Friday. I just measured the water temp again and looks like it will be a non wetsuit swim. The race did not plan that the water could be this hot so they are not prepared to do the non wetsuit real Aquathlon run/swim/run race which is so much more exciting than a swim/run race. But oh well, ....

Thanks for the nice comments by the way. :)

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