The base model of the Speed Concept (formerly 7.5) looks 100x better. Glad to see they went back to the previous fork as well. The wheels are "Aeolus Comp" which I couldn't find any info on in terms of external and internal width (or what hubs they use. They are tubeless ready which is nice if you're into that kind of thing. It looks like the depth is 50mm - perhaps they are a cheaper version of the Aeolus D5 TLR D3. The bike comes stock with 25mm tires so perhaps Trek is listening to the masses. But no disc brakes for BrianD though...

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can be a project one for a 7.5 like it was in 2014 when it first came out too which is good. Wish I went for the Spartacus one at the time!

I am so disappointed

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So there is no more 9 series in the speed concept? No 600 oclv carbon...no fairing under bottom bracket?

The "fairing (Speed Fin)" is part of the full aero package, availlable with Project One.

As for the 2018 9 series... well, we are just at the beginning of July 2017... maybe more bikes to be announced later?

Me too. Not so much because of discs (though might have been nice), but was hoping for something new. Maybe that is why Carl left Trek, they weren't interested in any new development?

I snagged the last 2014 black 7.5 in my region for a hell of a bargain in march of 2015. Non uci base and fork with the speed fin. The only diff to th 9.9 was the carbon seat post and the carbon itself. Ever since it seems they made the 7.5 less of a bike until maybe this one. Sooo happy with my bike.

This is a just a rumor and I have no idea if its true...

I heard Trek was working on a new beam bike last year but it wasn't any faster than the current SC, so the project was scrapped.

Take that with a grain of salt though.

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That wouldn't surprise me just look at the p5-6 and p5-x data. It's basically a wash.

I thought we might see a version with the ISOSpeed seatpost. An IM is a long-ass time to sit on a bike, so the comfort improvement would be beneficial.

Maybe they will add that when they do the disc version ;-/

When the SC Gen2 was released in 2014, they basically said it's an incremental update that mostly improves mechanical aspects (the Gen 2 brakes and bars are far easier to live with) and some small aero tweaks. The first-gen SC is still a very competitive frame, and Trek basically said they won't bother releasing a Gen 3 unless they manage to make it worth their while.

So far, with the P5 and the SC still at the top of the double-diamond heap and the P5X only marginally faster, it wouldn't surprise me to hear this. As that article was titled, "The age of Peak Aero" indeed.

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This is the the 3rd or 4th time I've seen someone mention the brakes between gen 1 and 2 within the last week. I have had both gen bikes. The front brake is no different between the two bikes and the rear brakes are basically the same as well except that gen 2 added the centering adjustments (which was awesome). I'm just saying the brakes between the two bikes aren't all that different..... there was really only one change which I happen to love.

Yes the basebar on gen 2 is a lot better with the 3 bolts.

IMO, gen 2 SC was really all about making it easier to work on, travel with, easily (relative to gen 1) make fit adjustments, and hydration/nutrition/flat kit storage. It just happened to be faster as well (but not by much).

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I believe pricing went down across the Madone board as well. $1000 less for the H2 frame. I think about -$500 on the other Madones. Sweet!

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Like the color scheme and I think making the 7 series one level might be a good move.

Big fan of the SC 7 series.

I only have a Gen 1 and I'm not complaining about the brakes, but my local Trek guys said some adjustments are easier to make on the Gen 2. As you said - an easier-to-live-with bike, the rest is incremental.

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The only thing not as good as the Gen 1 bike is the lack of tilt on the extension. I like a straight extension, and I have the bar tilted as much as possible but would like to get a few more degrees out of it. As far as building the bike I really don't think the new one is easier then the old. The rear brake centering adjustment is a big improvement though.

My local trek store expected there to be the isospeed on the next generation, not that I think they are anymore in the loop than some on this forum. Is the 2018 actually a new generation or just an updated paint scheme like they do every year and a more interesting wheel option?

Updated paint and wheels. Same frame

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Looking at their website today the H2-600 frame is $3499 (only $500 less than the complete 9.0 bike), hopefully it will go on sale but maybe not depending how much inventory they have. I've been considering that frameset for a while, but held off mostly because I don't like the idea of the $600 integrated stem/bar setup. So I'm really happy to see the new headset cap on the 9.0 that allows a standard stem and bar to be used.

Do you have a link to it?

I "heard" that they were working on a new bike that wasn't any faster but my source didn't mention the beam part. I think that was an unsubstantiated rumor stemming from the beam bike design study somebody published.

I honestly don't know. I did ask that question and my source did not know.

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Very possible. That's why I said take my comments with a grain of salt. I know the information I was given was really 3rd or 4th hand if not more.

But it's interesting that I wasn't the only one to hear a new bike was in the works.

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Reverse the top cradle and pivot cradle and you'll have all the tilt you want.

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I was playing with the Project 1, they definitely have some nice paint schemes available. Too bad the best ones (which allow color choices) add another $1k to the price of the bike. It's also a bummer Trek will rob you blind to upgrade to Ultegra Di2. It costs $1400 upgrade which seems a tad excessive since you can buy the parts from a place like Competitive Cyclist for ~$1000. Not to mention you could sell back the mechanical shifter+FD+RD+brake levers for a hundred bucks or so.

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What do you mean by ''reverse''?

Picture? I'm not totally sure of what you mean.

The part that sits on the mono spacer, the one with the tilt set screw. Flip it 180* so that the tilt adjustment screw is at the front of the bike. You can get more tilt and you can get a bit more reach on the extensions too.

i will try and get a pic when i get home.

This. I don't think the bottom plate needs to be rotated.

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Gotcha, I'm gonna do this when I get home TODAY!!! As a side benefit does it allow you to move the extension a little further forward as well? I can't believe I didn't try this........

For me the current speed concept 7.5 colour is a real deal breaker. I hate the blue colour. They even describe it as being grey. Doesn't look grey to me. If they change that for next year to black, they might get at least one extra customer next year.

yes. the real reason I did this was for the extra ~2 cm of extension reach.

Wow. This solves two problems for me. I sized down from an XL to a L this year to get as low as possible. The only issue was being maxed out on reach and tilt. I should be even more aero after this. Thanks for the info

Project one?

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Aren't they done with H1 Madone? I tried to order one last year and I could not get an H1 unless it was RSL.

Agggggh. I love it and want to buy it.

Really smart choice using those in-house brand wheels that people will actually want to keep on it (at the very least for training).

The only thing I don't like about it are those DA shifters. I have them on my Trek and always thought the self-centering SRAM ones were much more clever. That is just a gorgeous machine right off the line though.

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Agreed, looks a lot better than the current 2017 colors... Also Project One wasn't available on the 7 series and for 2018 it looks like it's an option now.

Hopefully they offer a black frameset only option...

I'm saving up for a new Madone probably sometime next year having ridden one in Majorca earlier this year. I loved it. Anyhow...

Question: It seems as though the Domane and Emonda have disc brakes. Any chance the Madone comes out with this for 2019? I asked a Trek rep and my very knowledgable Local bike shop guy and they both said that we wouldn't have any idea even if they were because they always fudge the name of the bike when going through things with the UCI (you will have to forgive me if I messed that up, it was a few days ago now). Anyhow, has anybody here heard anything?

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Question: Will you eventually be able to customize the 9.5?

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Done. Got a bit more tilt and a nice bit of extra reach. Plus, it makes more sense to me that the little set screw that adjusts tilt is up front. It'll act as a "stop" and hopefully keep a bit of stress off the two bolts that tighten the extension to the base bar.

I noticed that the 2018 bike have a Project 1 link on the web page while the 2017 model year bikes don't.. Maybe they will consolidate the 2018 Madone line like the SC and you will access all the options through Project 1.

As far as discs are concerned. Trek kinda made a big deal about not wanting to disc on the Madone. Maybe by 2019, but I can also see them deciding that anyone who is die hard aero enough to want a Madone is going to be a disc skeptic or possibly that they don't want to do a major redwing of a bike they don't sell a lot of.

Just as an aside- when I unscrew the two bolts which allow for reach (and tilt) it will tilt fine but actually won't move forward and I have plenty of room to move forward. To move that monobar forward do those 't' nuts need to be completely undone and not just loosened? There is something stopping the bar moving forward and back despite the loose t nuts and set screw out


Looks like they have gone back to circa 2014 when you could project one a 7.5 which is awesome.

^this. They couldn't justify the R&D. They were never going to see the ROI so they scrapped it and went with Road and MTB. The SC is just too good already.

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Thanks. I'm about 90/10 Madone/Domane. A key factor is I've ridden the Madone, but my LBS could set up a Domane if I asked. The brakes worked fine on the Madone, but having discs would provide extra piece of mind on descents. Another key factor is that this will be the last bike I buy for a while so I need to think it through...but I got time.

I noticed I could P1 the 9 for 2018 and 9.5 from 2017. I guess we will see!

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Made the mistake of taking those t nuts right off- that took me forever to put them back on ha ing to take the whole lot apart on the front to get to them

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The slot in the extension is just really tight. I could never get it to slide without taking the whole thing apart, pushing the piece out the the slot in the extension and pressing it back in where I wanted it. I think the theory is that the extension should slide, but the reality on my setup is that the fit was to snug to make it work.

The stack and reach numbers listed for the Madone are whack. 55cm reach for a 52cm H2 fit? Riiight.

It looks worse in person!!! My bikes are stored in my living room and I can't imagine myself staring at that everyday.

Is it blue / grey? It looks grey to me.

I think you are looking at stack. The 52cm H2 fit Madone has 37.9 in stack.

That said... H2 fit is way too tall in general. I feel like Madone (aero) bikes should default to H1 fit.

Current geometry listed on the Madone 9.0 page shows incorrect stack and reach figures.

Yes, you can pull correct info from another page, ie the Madone 9.5.

Still an odd error.

Not sure if this was covered or not, but I don't see any Project One options for the 9.9 Series. Am I looking at that correctly? I'm assuming they are coming out with a 2018 version at some point, but it won't even let you customize a 2017 9.9 Series.

Any reports on anticipated delivery times for the 2018 Speed Concept? Is it days, weeks, or months?

Thanks,

Interesting.

I didn't go back and check, but if my memory is correct you just pick the 2018 9 series and then build whatever you want in Project 1. There appear to be fewer "stock" models and more of an emohasis on semi- custom builds. I may wrong about the 9 series, but I am pretty sure this how the 7 worked.

Mine ships July 28.

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Actually if you check the 2018 is basically the 7. At the moment on their is not a 2018 SC9 series. The 2018 is 500 Carbon where the 2017 SC9 series is 600 carbon.

Actually had my trek dealer check the other day for kicks.

Trek is like Porsche. Same design all the time. Marketing through boredom. Seems to work.

HED realized the same thing with wheels so they didn't bother with the risk/reward of carbon clinchers. While I appreciate it, the reality is that the typical consumer looked at it as being inferior and they lost market share. Building a successful business is a blend of good engineering and marketing. Stuff that is a new and shiny is easy for others like magazine etc to talk about and that sells magazines and magazines then sell product.

If beam bikes stall (pun intended) we could go thru a period again where beam bikes don't exist because these radical designs are a little bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy and when they become passe nobody will talk about them and spend the money to market them.

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Our old board expert Carl Matson said that the speed fin/fairing thing was essential for the brakes to function correctly. I think I asked him 101 times about it b/c I find it a pain to deal with when changing the rear wheel.

Wonder why its a 'option' aero package now?

I would gladly remove that thing if I knew it was safe.

JF

You know you can get the UCI legal replacement right? I think Carl posted the part # in the SC thread at some point.

Edit: part # is W327327

Didnt know that but im sure it costs an arm and a leg. I actually carved out the bottom flat edge of it which makes it more manageable. Not perfect but way better...

Still baffled why it was a crucial element now just an add on....hah!

The replacement is not new. They always had it because the fin was not UCI legal but the part is pretty important because it holds the brake arms centered and in place. Without it the brake would come apart which you don't want to happen ;)

Why it's an add on now? I guess is part of their marketing strategy... they want you to pay extra for the aero stuff. The old 7.5 had the full non-UCI package (the fork, speed fin the fast aero bar etc.) and it was a great deal over the SC 9 at almost half the price. So now you pay the same amount of money for a stripped down 7.5 and you have to customize $$$ it to get the goodies.

It's always been an option when doing project one. It's no more money for the aero package.

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So if this speed fin is so crucial and now its an option, does anyone know what they put there to hold the bolts in place if someone opts out of the fin?

The "option" part is actually a cover that holds the brake in place but is not as "aero" as the speed fin....

must be the uci legal part Sp1ke was referring to

cant imagine that would be an option.....that is to buy a crucial piece. haha. i am curious, i will hit up trek tomorrow

The UCI option is just a standard brake cover, without the fin on it. It's the same thing as the gen 1 SC rear brake cover. Essentially, cut the fin part off of the speedfin and you have a UCI legal brake cover.

When Carl said the speedfin is crucial but what he really means is that the break cover is crucial, whether thats the UCI legal one or the speedfin..... it doesn't matter. One of them has to be used. Seeing how this is a tri forum and majority here have the non UCI version, he mentioned speedfin.

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It's not an option like you think it is...... You can get either the UCI legal brake cover (non speed fin) or the speed fin (non UCI legal). You HAVE to pick one. You can't pick neither.

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When you go through Project One, you can choose between the "aero" package (speed fin, aero fork, and the large aero basebar), or the UCI legal package (brake cover instead of speed fin, narrow basebar and narrow fork).

When you don't go through Project One, you can't choose any option: for example, my 2017 7.5 came with the UCI legal narrow fork, UCI legal narrow basebar, and the UCI illegal Speed Fin. (It also came with a paint scheme that should be illegal but that's another debate). Changing any of these parts cost quite a bit...

ahhh....brake cover. there we go.
thanks.

yeah i sanded mine down b/c didnt want to fumble around with it during a race. i have etap so i think that also makes it slightly trickier for some reason.

Can you post a pic when you get it? I always like to see what bikes look like in a non-studio setting

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What does the brake cover have to do with etap? Curious as I am considering an SC frame.

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Not sure what he meant. Has no relation. I ve got an sc with etap.

Re etap.
Feels like you have to jimmy with it a little more to get it in(vs a shimano). That's all. Etap works fine with the SC.

I believe SRAM derailleurs have a bit higher spring tension then Shimano so it can be a little bit harder to pull it back and get the wheel to drop out. I haven't used etap so I can't say for sure I just seem to recall hearing or reading this somewhere.

I find it hard to remove/install the rear wheel with a SRAM Force derailleur. I remove/install the wheel without the QR, makes it a bit easier.

If you remove the skewer completly , it drops in and out no problem. Definatly tighter fit with sram.

Bunch of new colors now availlable for the 2018 Speed Concept!

Any new info on the Domane?

You used to only be able to customize the 600 Series OCLV Carbon. That was frustrating but made sense. Project One was limited to the more expensive bike. Now you can only customize the 500 Series OCLV Carbon. I really don't understand...

My guess is that not all 2018 bikes are out yet. We'll see in a few weeks I guess.

If Trek rolls out anything that is really new I am going to guess that they add the IsoSpeed seat post. I don't think they can greatly improve aero or storage, but a little shock absorption would be a logical upgrade. Maybe that upgrade will come with BryanD's disc.

I have been wondering about this. The Trek Speed Concept is the oldest frame design if my terminology is correct. I was thinking a new design was in the making but appearently now. My question is, has anybody seen the new Diamondback Andean? They claim it is the fastest bike and it certainly looks really slick. But riders have noted especially in Kona they were getting pushed around by the wind a lot. Do any of you think Trek will come out with possibly something similar to the Andean? Maybe not as radical of a design but just to create something new.

New dimondback looks like a turd imo.
Why change the sc frame?? Its one of the fastest, tried and true ,reliable, and no issues what so ever that Ive seen.
And its its one of the nicest looking bikes out there imo.
You said you dont race and it seems like whats most important to you is the way you and your bike looks so
If you like the d-back and you feel like it will make you look cool , then sell that sc to someone that competes and buy your self a bright red andean to cruise around in:-)

Actually, the Shiv and P2,P3 & P5 are all older than the current SC. With the tri bike market maturing and a bit of contraction in tri participation, I suspect the life cycles are going to be getting longer, not shorter. The second Gen SC improved only modestly in terms of aero and mostly fixed some design flaws in the first generation, which was really a very radical bike at the time. The road bike market is a lot bigger and clearly Trek is putting more resources there.

"has anybody seen the new Diamondback Andean? They claim it is the fastest bike and it certainly looks really slick"

I heard the Andra is great for intervals.

If they did disc and isospeed on a Speedconcept I would ProjectOne one of those immediately. Cue the "shut up and take my money" meme. . .

I agree disc brakes would be very attractive. 10 years from now rim bakes will be totally outdated. But it seems disc brakes are being adopted far more slowly in tri bikes vs. road bikes. I can only think of three brands that have incorporated discs into a TT setup -- and all of them are ugly.

I agree with you

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enjoy your DA shifters. They work! RTC shifters are finicky.

You might consider a Canyon road bike and add clip-ons. https://www.canyon.com/en/road/aeroad/

Been using SRAM R2C shifters since 2010. Two different bikes, 13 Half irons & 5 full irons later.....no problems whatsoever.

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Had to read this first line 2x...for some reason I read it as "looks like a turd limo" (which makes sense I guess...if you have an imagination...)

Thanks for your insight. The one reason I won't consider the Diamondback is because unless I can see, test ride, I am not going to order it. I understand the benifet of direct sales to the consumer will allow the bike to be more affordable, but I am not going to drop that much money on something that I have no idea how it really feels.

I am glad I got a Speed Concept after it seems and the general consenses it is one of the best tribikes out there

Cannondale

Probably add Cannondale soon with the SuperSlice Disc too.

Yep, I only listed bikes you can buy right now.

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Ah, gotcha. Any other "coming soon to a bike shop near you" we should add to the Cannondale?

Nothing new that I know of. New Shiv is probably not happening this year.

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Its very interesting that the Speed Concept is now only offered in the cheaper 500 carbon (and thus is effectively a 7 series)
So they have limited the current range for '18

This makes me think the current SC will be the value play, and the new 'Super Speed concept' will come out round Kona time and be P5x expensive.....

And then trickle down into 2019.....which makes sense to get early adapter to subsidise those later....

I think you are overthinking things. Triathlon bikes are pretty low-volume so it doesn't make sense to manufacture them both in Wisconsin and in Taiwan.

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Only the 9 series was made in Wisconin. The 7 series and others are made in Asia.

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For 5+ years they have had a dual factory approach. Seems strange to stop that now?
And to stop selling the much higher margin model?

Specialized has removed their top end Shiv as well. You can buy the frame though.

Signs that something is coming!

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I get fancy light expensive carbon for their top-end road bikes, but does anyone thing "better carbon" is worth anything on a tri bike? Few hundred extra grams - who cares.

Speed Concept 7.5 is peak aero. They should try to sell a shitton of those and let people pay a little more for custom colors or upgrade to electronic shifters.

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I've wondered about this but have seen no evidence of it. I understand that only the 9 series road bikes are made in Wisconsin. I asked my local dealer about it and he was uncertain.

Ha!

I belive Carl may have mentioned all p1's are made in the usa . My friends p'1 is labeled "made in usa" .
I belive Ive also heared that the p1' paint quality although customizable ,is not as good as the ones made in taiwan

My frame is a 7.5 and it is made in Taiwan

annndddddd here he is again with those red zipps lol, I love this guy!

gotta ask though...why did you co-ordinate with the red? I would have used green to go with frame! You could have had a Kermit Koncept!

Try?! They can't keep those things in stock. In my neck of the woods they're more popular than Cervelo P3s, and my team - affiliated with Trek - has just two riders out of 40-ish on a bike that's not a Speed Concept, one of those because she's just too small. The local fitter reckons almost all of the tri bikes he sees are SCs.

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I've decided on a 2018 Speed Concept also. Now I just have to find a local bike shop that has one / can order one for me.

Fort Worth Cycling and Fitness if you are anywhere around the metroplex...talk to James.

He can get you what you need...at a great price. If you need a medium...they have a great buy on a 7.5 they still have on the floor.

Just curious what constitutes a great buy. My local Trek dealer stocks exactly 0 Speed Concepts.

$2999 for a 7.5...with ultegra...and the Aero fork (retail was 3,999)

It's new, but the 2015 model...black with a little red...sweet looking bike...I would get myself if I was in the market right now.

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I did just add it above...sorry.

2015 model...but new build. Black/red...with the Aero fork/faring

That's a screaming deal

Looking at ordering a project one Madone 9.0. Does anyone know if you can order it without the wheels? Have a new set of Zipp 404s im going to use, and don't really want theirs.

You just saved me a bunch of coin. I put a deposit down on that bike and will be picking it up tomorrow morning. I like the 2018 wheels a little better but I'll take the $ savings. Plus, I'd have to wait at least a month around here for a 2018. Thanks buddy!

Glad to help...James is great to work with...and knows his stuff. He could really ride back in the day and had some pretty good ironman finishes as well...and other than the wheels...you are getting the same bike.

You can not order a complete bike project 1 without wheels.

This is what ST is all about!

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 Bastard! What a great deal on a bike! I sent them an IM but you beat me to it!

Slowman should be taking advantage of the ST clearinghouse. If you have a great bike at a great price it would be great to pass those deals on to ST members My guess is that they sat on that bike for two years and they could have sold 3 in the last 12 hours no questions asked.

They have had it in the rack for a while...it's too bad really...trek finally figured out that everyone would rather have that bike versus the 9.9...so they bring it back now as the project one bike...

It's kind of funny now...I have a great bike, but have thought about that 7.5 for a while thinking it could be really fast bike with some good race wheels....have been reading this thread since it began...when I saw TX in the guys handle today...figured I should let him know there was one handy...hope it's a good one for him.

Last year I was in your spot as well. Ended up finding a shop that had the 2015 7.5 just like you. Got a sweet deal on it and grabbed it as quick as I could. Used the extra coin for race wheels. You won't be disappointed about the bike at all. I love mine. Happy riding!

Done deal! I drove up from Houston and picked up the bike around lunch time. James fit me on the bike, although I'm going to ride on it for a while and then have the fitter I usually work with make any adjustments. I plan on taking it out for the first time tomorrow morning.

Now it's time to find some good wheels for it and add accessories. Definitely going to buy the draft box that goes behind the seat and the bento box that goes on top. I need to find some kind of horizontal water bottle holder and water bottle to go between my arms.

So here's a picture of my new fast bike in front my fast car.

And a big THANK YOU again for the tip. I would have spent a lot more money and waited at least a month for basically the same bike.

Awesome!!!

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I started a conversation in another Speed Concept thread and wanted to come over here and pose some questions.

First, my left humerus is about 2" shorter (just shoulder to elbow, elbow to wrist are the same) due to a separation that damaged the growth plate in 7th grade.

Option 1: I can get a 2018 SC at cost but then would need to swap out the monobar attachment for the one that can accept other 22.8 extensions. I'd go with an EVO 110 and then look to raise the pad on the left side. I've done some nifty work in the past with some Vision and Syntace risers and figured that something can be done here...

Option 2: Shop around for a pre-2015 with out the monobar. There's a 2011 in the classified right now that even has a Quarq for 2500.

Option 3: Get one of those bone stretchers that I used to see in the Sunday ads.

Nice ride.

The bike looks good too.

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Looks like the Speed Concept has a few more color options on the Trek website.

All the current production speed concepts are now made in Asia (this is according to a previous post here by Carl, but ymmv ... ).

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Even though it is 1st generation, the 2011 SC is a great bike. I've got a 2011 9 series that I love!!! Unless something catastrophic happens, I've purchased my last tri bike.

The 2nd generation has some minor upgrades, but that doesn't make the 1st gen a bad bike.

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Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.

I have the same bike - it is the single fastest, most comfortable ride I've ever had. I have done a few 70.3 and one IM on it with a pair of 808 Firecrest and it went like a freight train. Enjoy!

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And you'll have to pay $500+ for those colors. The standard black is $4K, but good luck finding one of those. My local bike shops said it would be 2+ months before they could get one. The color ones are more available but cost $4,500, and more if you go the Project One route. I think Trek is intentionally holding back on supply of the $4K version to force people into buying the more expensive versions.

When does the 2018 bikes become available?

Is the rear brake fairing something you can purchase and put onto a 7.5 (the one that's listed as a 2017 and Spacey Gray)?

Trek added the speed concept frameset option to the website. Only the black colorway, but it does include the fin. At 3000 I think they may sell a lot of these. It's b interesting to see what the wait time is between this vs the full build.

https://www.trekbikes.com/...018/?colorCode=black

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I ended up chatting online with Trek. They say its beginning September or mid September it will be available.

Trek now has the Bontrager Aeolus Comp 5 wheels which come standard on the 2018 speed concept on their site, so now we have some specs on them. A 50mm deep carbon fairing on an aluminum rim. 1860 grams with a 23 mm outer and 17.5mm inner width. Width wise this is similar to the Hed Jet/Belgium/Ardennes (the C2 version, not the plus). DT Swiss bladed spokes, no info on the hubs (just their in house hubs). Can't tell from the pictures, but I am guessing it is just a deep-v and not a toroidal shape. But I could very well be wrong.

I'm guessing they are not quite as nice as the Hed Jet+ 6 or Flo 60's in terms of aerodynamics, handling/stability in cross winds, and comfort (given the smaller outer and inner width). That said, they're much better than the stock wheels which come on most other bikes in this price range. You can buy them individually and MRSP is $700 for the set.

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I'm willing to bet this is just a rebranding of their previous Bontrager Aura wheels. The specs are virtually identical... The Auras had a nice, blunt rim very similar in shape to HEDs and to the full-carbon Bontrager wheels. Similar internal and external rim dimensions as C2 HEDs and FLO wheels, so I doubt there's any big difference.

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Just beautiful.. more photos and review coming..

Project One 2018 - 9.9kg
6870 Ultegra Di2
105 Pedals
60/88 Carbon Clinchers w/Ceramic Bearings
25mm Continental GP 4000 SII
DuoTrap & SC Draft Box 2 & SC Speed Box
Elite TT Bottle Kit







Project One 2018 - 8.9kg
6870 Ultegra Di2
Cosmic Wheels w/Mavic Tire
DuoTrap & SC Draft Box 2 & SC Speed Box

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Trek Speed Concept Project One 2018
Giant Propel Adv.2
Scott Scale 10
Strida LT
Specialized CrossRoad

Love that neon paint job! Not something I would ever think to choose on my own, but it's a beauty!

Hey. I just ordered a Madone 9.2 in the yellow red scheme. Seeing your speed concept makes me even more excited about it.

Just remember that those Mavic tires have horrible Crr, unless Mavic changed manufacturers. Best used for training or burning up on the wind trainer this winter. The bike look really nice though. I am jealous.

So my 2018 Trek SC frame came with a narrow base bar. I still have my 2016 Trek with wider base bar. Should I swap these out? Is one more aero than the other?

You say that but the funny thing is before they announced the bike, and before I saw any pictures of Trek riders riding them, I built a 2017 in a similar but brighter scheme. If I remember which may be awhile knowing me I will take a good pic and post it.

How do you measure "wider"? Depth or width between the brake levers?

Trek made a shallower UCI legal base bar, but I thought they stopped making those when the UCI gave up on the 3:1 rule. If you mean bar width, then by all means go narrower. Wide is slow.

I think its the UCI bar that came with the 2018 Trek SC. The one I had on my Trek I guess is the aero base bar. I'm wondering if there is much difference between the two or is this a marketing scheme.

I'd guess difference is minimal at best. I know in their white paper there's virtually no difference between the deep and narrow fork. I'd guess the base bar is the same.

I am trying to decide between frames right now and had a few questions about the 2018 Trek frames. Does anyone know the tyre clearance? Also is the Di2 battery integrated or does it need to be mounted on the frame? Cheers!

Di2 battery gets mounted in the seatpost.

I've ran as wide as a 26 mm turbo cotton on a zipp super 9 on the bike. You will need to move the washers to the other of brake arm to do so.

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Awesome! Thanks man!

I love the paint scheme, but cannot for the life of me understand why a project one bike doesn't come with an optioned painted draft box!? I mean they're already painting the frame to your specs, why not offer the draft box paint to match?

I have a 2015 SC that started life as the "stary night" paint scheme (black red posted above) and I had it painted my custom colors. Having the draft box painted sets it off and makes it look complete.