I probably wouldn't just for looking unkempt. If someone is being a dick head then I would probably be more inclined. I don't think I ever have though.

When you are 5'7" and 130 lbs you really have to gauge what could happen if said person wants to throw down.

What's the point, so you can feel better?

Sure, when they have a cart full and are in line for the 10 item or fewer express lane. Then somehow they think I'm the dickhead for pointing out that they aren't entitled to do whatever they want.

For being a "Fat Ass," there aren't enough hours in the day and why brother.

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Suffer Well.

Pretty much that. The other day I pointed out to the guy using his cell phone in the change room that he is not allowed to do that. He was right under the sign saying no use of phones in the change room (due to the cameras). He says, "I would never take a picture" in a rather indignant way. I told him I have trouble figuring out what people who take pictures look like.

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They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

You shouldn't because that person's choices have nothing to do with you. That just makes you a preachy asshole (saying something that, thinking it is normal).

I was inline at the bank (in 2002) signing a check when someone walked past me grabbed a pen and signed his check in his hand instead of on the desk thereby "passing" me in line. I thought he was going to let me back ahead of me but he stared at me and said he was there first. So I asked him, "what is the name of the whore who birthed you?" I don't do that any more.

whatever items are being sold in a store is then a reasonable item to purchase in that store - and even ignoring that I'd say your problem is that you are giving permission to others to rule over you.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

I'd rather recognize the fact that you never know what battle someone is going through and how they cope with it. Some people's internal crap shows itself through pretty obvious external ways like obesity, being unkempt, addiction.

Other people's internal crap shows itself in more subtle ways: the need to be an awesome endurance athlete to prove you're awesome (seriously, Google "divorce by triathlon" and see if you still think those triathlete people are better than those obese people), the need for some to have flashy cars & homes to prove they're something, others who can't actually be authentically honest & hide themselves in goofy personalities.

We're all going through shit or have gone through shit or will go through shit. Taking the time to realize that mine also stinks helps me when all I want to do is overlook my own, come unhinged, and judge others. And it also helps me find a way to address my own and sympathize with others & do the little that I can to help make theirs a little better, even if it's just a smile.

So now instead I smile at a lot of people. It's amazing just how far a simple smile & a genuine "have a great day!" goes in getting past some of my snap thinking toward others. I'll save saying what's on my mind for when people are actually causing harm to someone else.

People say shit to me all the time for not wearing shoes.

I also get comments on my fucked up ears.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Was at the movies a few days ago when a guy (30 something) pulls out his cell phone. I let it go once during the opening credits.....then again after 10 minutes later.....but the third time was it. I went down the two rows in front of me and suggested that he leave his phone off during the movie as it was extremely distracting to anyone behind him. His excuse was he had kids at home with a babysitter. My response was " I don't care". If you need to check your phone, go out into the lobby - the next time I see it on, I will get an usher to escort you out. He complied after that and left his seat a couple more times to check his phone.

I wasn't trying to come off as an asshole, but this is one of my pet peeves.....

Using a cell phone at the theater is quite different than just being a fat slob, or being barefoot (or having fucked up ears).

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Not too long ago, I was sitting in my car in the nearly empty parking lot of the local Post Office - sealing envelopes, affixing stamps, etc. when I see a guy come in hot and pull into one of the handicapped spots right in front, clearly in a hurry. Since I have a particular disdain for people who abuse handicapped spots, I took a quick look to see if he had handicapped plates, or a permit hanging from his rear-view...nope, neither. I see him jump out of the driver's side door and start to haul ass toward the P.O., clearly able-bodied. He then stops abruptly, hauls ass back to his car, hangs a handicapped permit on the rear-view and heads back into the P.O.

I SO wanted to go in and ask him when being a lazy, inconsiderate dickhead had become a recognized handicap - but I decided that the risk/reward math just wasn't to my liking.

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Who died and made you God?

30 years ago I was pinching below 5% body fat and was one of the fastest cyclists in my area but now I'm morbidly obese. I don't wear pajamas but I might go to the store in sweats and sandals and I might even buy frozen pizzas and Coke.

After decades of being over worked, under appreciated, going through a painful divorce, financial problems, career insecurity, health challenges and depression I was in a downward spiral and every time I felt like I was turning things around I had another setback. I'm doing better now but my situation is still precarious so no telling what the future holds.

Speaking for myself and the "lazy good for nothings" you look down on. Go to Hell.

Twice

First in the grocery line, two younger adults were wearing stupid big-ass bell bottoms (this was in the early 2000's). So I said to my wife, I'm going to ram the front of the cart into their ankles so they'll swell up enough to fill those stupid jeans. Needless to say the young folk didn't find it funny and just glared.

Second instance, movie theater, the first Lord of the Rings. The lady behind us had an infant with her who cried continuously! I finally turned and asked if she was ever going to take her baby out of this movie theater. She got up and never returned. I mean, who the hell takes a baby to movie like that?

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I'd only say something if they were being outwardly rude. Just had this happen a few weeks ago in front of the post office where a woman was parked in a no stopping zone and also well off the curb while waiting for someone inside, parked in a way so that no one could get by her to get to a parking spot. I tapped the horn and she didn't move, tapped it again and she crept forward just barely enough so that I could squeeze by with a few inches to spare. Her window was down so I told her she wasn't in a parking spot and was blocking other people from getting in. She told me that I was impatient for honking my horn so I replied that she was inconsiderate and selfish (I made sure not to swear or call her names) for blocking others. She then told me to calm down and walk away, so I replied "That's right, you block everyone else and don't care, yet somehow I'm the bad guy. Have a nice day!"

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"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race." - Richard Butler

This happened to me in school. I was on the subway at about midnight and only me and another guy on my car. Guy lights a cigarette. No smoking in the subway clearly signed. I start getting steamed and he was smaller than me so after about 10 min I go over and say, "Can't you see the sign, no smoking" He says, "Can't you give a guy a break, I just got out of the pen" So I ask him what for. He says, "I killed my father." I got off at the next stop.

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They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

Something similar to me happened many years ago when my son was in elementary school. I would park in the parking lot and walk him to his class. There was a drop-off zone for parents that I walked by on the way to taking him to class. As I was walking, I saw a woman in a SUV in the drop-off zone talking to her daughter. I had seen her doing the same thing before, always blocking traffic. I walked him all the way to class and then walked back out. She was still there, talking to her daughter and blocking traffic. I told her that she needed to quit blocking traffic and use the area as it was intended. And that if she wanted to have a conversation she should do it while driving or park in the parking lot.

She drove off in a huff, but other parents gave me the thumbs up because they were fed up with her.

I'm the kind of person who typically goes out of my way to be considerate to people, so it pisses me off to see people who are horribly inconsiderate.

 


Lucky for you that you can't hear them

Rudeness that affects you? Speak up.
Someone's lifestyle seems wrong? Stay quiet.

I just ate two chocolate pop tarts.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Not for that. But those fuckers with 11 items in the 10 items or less line need to be put in their place!!!

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If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

Emery's Third Coast Triathlon | Tri Wisconsin Triathlon Team | Push Endurance | GLWR

Just go on the "People of Walmart" site. What you're describing is mild.

Put peanut butter between the two chocolate pop tarts and make a sandwich out of them. It's so good

Well that makes you a normal if somewhat critical person, stepping over that line makes you an asshole of the highest order and probably worthy of a public shaming yourself.

I hate seeing people litter.

I was pulling in to Starbucks when I saw this college aged dude throw his cup on the ground in front of his car and get in his car. I walked over to his car, tapped on his window and said "hey, you dropped your cup" in a sarcastic tone. I think it surprised him he got called out because he stepped out of his car and says "oh yeah, sorry" and picked it up.

Another time, I saw an old guy throw his coffee cup out his window one morning on the way to work. We were real close to a red light so I pulled up beside him and told him he should not litter. At first he denied it until I told him it almost hit me (it looked like a full cup when it hit the ground). He then started cussing and telling me to mind my own business. He was really getting irate but he sped off.

Littering drives me crazy as well. That's something worth speaking up against, because it effects all of us who don't want to live in a trash can. Your post reminds me -- I need to call my state rep's office today; his people left flyers on the doors in our neighborhood a few days ago, did a terrible job securing them, so I picked up 12-15 in yards and the street in the distance of 10 houses as I walked to get my son from the bus.

+1

yep , you are right . its called humility. My dad would always say “ you never know what the other person is going through."

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I'm sorry I struck a nerve. I understand the selfish nature of triathletes. But I'd argue that there is also an equally if not greater self centeredness to someone abusing themselves with food.
Poor health habits affect not only the individual with a penchant for hostess pies, but they become a burden on the health care system, miss more days of work, and I'd even argue contribute to CO2 emissions at a greater rate.
I never said I have chewed a strangers ass st the market. In fact I'll give you two recent examples of doing just the opposite.
1) An old friend whose life arc peaked in his mid twenties has abused himself with bad habits for twenty years now. Over the past few months, as a direct result of my encouragement and my sacrifices on his behalf, is now into a routine of regular gym workouts, and better diet habits
2) A bum was recently rummaging through my dumpster at work. Now I wasn't going to invest a bunch of time into this stranger, but I made it clear to him that he had options way better than what he was doing.

My attitude in the OP may seem harsh, and it often is my initial thought, but hell, everybody has an initial impression. I don't tell a young hard body she looks great in her yoga pants either, but sometimes the impulse is there

I manage a grocery store, we have on avg 16-18,000 customers walk through the doors every week, I see it all. In my experience the fat slobs in pjs buying coke and pizza are no problem at all. They come in buy whatever shit they want don't talk, don't ask questions and don't bother me...just in and out.

The real assholes by far are the older northern retired crowd. That complain about every little fucking thing.

Are you going to open another register? No... I had 3 cashiers call out today that's why I'm out here waiting on your old wrinkled ass. You had no problem talkin to your 3 neighbors for 45 min on aisle 6...now you are in a fucking hurry when you get up front.

Why did you discontinue this item it was the best seller? No it fucking wasn't or we would still stock it.

Someone left a dog in the car can you call the police? ma'am...the car is running with the AC on the dog is fine! Why are you wasting my time with this bullshit!?

Why don't you have the stockers come in overnight they are just in the way and I can't get through the aisle? Ma'am The shelves would be empty if we just left it on auto pilot all day! Are you really this oblivious to how this shit works.

There is a man yelling at this lady in the express lane for wearing pjs and calling her a fat slob. You need to do something.

What the hell is wrong with you? You have to stick with the fruit-based fillings on the pop tart front. If I saw you buying chocolate pop tarts at the grocery store you can be damn sure you'd hear about it from me.

I really hate littering. About 20 years ago, I stuffed a guy into a garbage can for littering. I was in a bad mood that day. I've mellowed out since then.

I also don't like cars idling. People sit outside a store with their car idling in the no parking/fire zone waiting for their spouse/friend/partner in crime to come out. Or they fly up to the front row parking spot at a convenience store, leave the engine running, get their stuff, and come out. What a total waste of gas. It's just really inefficient and pointless pollution.

I always want to say something, but keep my mouth shut. I figure somebody that does that probably isn't the most logical thinker, so trying to approach them with a reasonable argument is likely to backfire.

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Vector Cycle Works
Noblesville, IN
BikeFit Instructor | FMS | F.I.S.T. | IBFI
Toughman Triathlon Series Ambassador

That's what you get for attempting humor in the LR. Don't you know that our resident snowflakes are on high alert for trigger words? Yea. This place is being taken over by the lunatics. So take you humor someplace else or suffer the consequences from lunatic nation (which I think is HQ'd somewhere in Canada).

When you are 5'7" and 130 lbs you really have to gauge what could happen if said person wants to throw down.

Don't worry, The Forge will protect you...

Drives me crazy too. This morning, i am driving to office and in one of our city's great parks. Behind a little car with Bernie and Love Trumps Hate and Mother Earth stickers all over the back. So to my surprise, at a stop sign, out the window comes a cigarette butt. Smokers, the world is their ashtray.

Back in the day at one of the bike shops I managed an obese middle age lady came in to look at bikes. Other customers were appalled she had the nerve to come there. When she left on a test ride customers made rude jokes about her. Her test ride didn't last long; she hadn't ridden a bike since she was a girl and fell tearing her shorts and scraping her elbow so she pushed the bike back. Some customers were fighting not to laugh. Now I'm the obese middle age guy who people snicker at for my audacity to want to ride, run or swim (actually, swimmers have been really nice even though swimming has always been by far my worst sport). A few years ago I joined the local 'Y' I came in for a workout before my orientation. In high school I threw shot and discus so I know my way around weights so I tried out the free weights and power rack in their weight room then did some cardio. At my orientation I found out that I didn't belong in the weight room because it was only for "serious and competitive athletes." They had a room with ancient poorly maintained weight machines for people like me. When I mistakenly wandered into the hallowed ground of the weight room people were probably thinking I had a lot of nerve being there with real athletes. I think I probably paid the same memberships fees they did.
As far as worrying about how much people like me are burdening the health care system, being an imposition on coworkers, and my CO2 footprint; donthcha' think you are getting just a little self-righteous? I didn't own a car until I was 24 and afterword still used my bike for errands and I have been a vegetarian for 37 years. I'm guessing my CO2 footprint is smaller than most and quite possibly yours. I've only used a few sick days in the last 20 years because when I'm sick I'm expected to just work from home unless I'm too sick to sit in front of a laptop; lucky me. As far as your encouraging your friend and helping a homeless guy I'm really glad you did but don't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back.

The closest grocery store has a couple "around 15 items" lines. I jokingly told a person in front of me with a single item that I didn't think that that wasn't around 15. He knew I was joking and laughed. But after he left, the cashier told me that they'd prefer people with just a couple items, other than alcohol or when writing a check, to use the self checkout lines.

The only time this bothers me is if kids are involved, I could care less what a idiot adult does to their body but when I see a family with obese kids and nothing but junk in their cart I want to shoot the parents.

Are you an Uber driver?

#DontFatShame

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"Look, will you guys at leats accept that you are a bunch of dumb asses and just trust me on this one? Please?" BarryP 7/30/2012

I've gotten to the point where I see a douche hanging his or her arm out the window with a lit cigarette I'll change lanes because I know they're gonna toss it and it's gonna make me want to beat the shit out of them (yes, judging that they are a douche because i know what they are planning on doing...., and they can't get the inside of their car smoky, but fuck everyone else.. ... Dammit, now you've got me all worked up!)

This brings me back to an interaction a couple years ago.
The day after Halloween at Home Depot and kid and dad in line behind me. Kid is 10ish. Kid grabs oversized Butterfinger bar. Dad says okay. Seeing as how Hillary told me it takes a village and Michelle helped me understand nutritional choices, I invoked my patriotic duty and asked the kid if he had candy from the night before. At this, the dad realized what a dumbshit he was and told the kid to put it back.

A risky move I know, but how else do we keep each other accountable

Thank God for the brave busybodies of the world, that's all I know. You're doing the Lord's work.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

You've got something against science?

Nobody knows how to use the horn where you live?

It's just a little tribal signaling.

For the record, Tess Holiday is not healthy.

I can't figure out which side of nutcases is more irritating- those who feel justified in shaming overweight people, or those who promote fat pride.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I have a lot less of an issue with someone who is proud of who they are than I do with someone who feels the need to shame someone else for the way they look.

I hope you can see the significant difference.

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"Look, will you guys at leats accept that you are a bunch of dumb asses and just trust me on this one? Please?" BarryP 7/30/2012

Fat is something to be proud of now? Why is that?

How about weak? Weak pride!

There's a difference in being proud of who you are as a person, and not believing that any particular physical attribute defines you as that person, and holding up that physical attribute as something that you're proud of in itself.

I hope you can see the difference.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

1.) For me there's no way I'm going to shame a fat person. What good is it going to do them? What good is it going to do me? There's no upside.
2.) The "fat pride" issue is more complicated and depends on the context. On the one hand, Lord knows we've already got too many victims in this world. We certainly don't need every single fat person running around with a broken psyche brimming with self pity. On the other hand, I certainly don't want anyone "selling" obesity as desirable, preferable, or even inevitable. "Fat pride" tends to make a huge stew of all those issues, so it's tough to wade through intellectually.

I certainly don't want anyone "selling" obesity as desirable,

Tess Holiday's entire career (and I suspect, her identity) is based on doing exactly that, which is exactly what I have a big problem with.

I am far more sympathetic to and far less judgemental of fat people than a lot of others in here- the fat shaming thing and their self-righteousness about it is always a nasty shock to me. But being fat, especially extremely fat, is not desirable, it is not healthy, is not something to take pride in, is not something to promote, and should be viewed as what it is- a problem that the individual would do well to fix.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I didn't say that, I said I can tolerate someone being ok with the way they look more than I can someone who thinks it's ok to shame someone else. I doubt you can see that after your last.

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"Look, will you guys at leats accept that you are a bunch of dumb asses and just trust me on this one? Please?" BarryP 7/30/2012

Oh cigarette butts kill me too. What do they think will happen, the used cigarette simply dissolves?!?!?

I always want to say something when I see those hyper slim skinny business-casual people in the check-out line...unhealthy looking and can't stand still for a sec or two....jerking and jittery with and pouchy face.

Clearly on diet pills and all other kind of Uppers and totally ruining their lives and that of other people by being cranky rude little druggies in a suit...

But then I really feel sorry for them, and know they are just one step away from being fat slobs...

So no.

You can buy cigarettes and doughnuts with food stamps for all I care. Just don't touch EVERY damn piece of produce and packet of chicken and ground beef before you make your decision.

you don't eat avocados do you?

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we're doomed

Avocados are only good for 30 seconds. You buy them firm, take them home and wait for the magic moment,

Yup, but I'm pretty sure saying "it looks like you're having.... For supper tonight " isn't going to get me bitch slapped like some people​ need to be.

The various pride movements (gay pride, Pagan pride, fat pride...) are reactions. People who have had to live in the shadows in shame are simply saying that they are no longer going to do so. They are not ashamed about who they love, what they believe, or how they look.

In the case of fat pride, it's an overreaction, and a harmful one, both on an individual and societal level.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."