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I wasnt planning in starting a new thread and then saw the new LG suit so here it goes.

2016 thread:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ead_-_2016_P5779340/



https://garneau.com/...black-flame-90c-1306

$379 US compared to $299 for last years.

Also a womens one piece suit
https://garneau.com/...multi-black-1b9-1287
Same pricing as mens.
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For $379 I hope it caresses my balls gently and whispers bad things in my ear.
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I have the 2016 model and really like it, but a statement like "Wind tunnel and track testing has shown that it can shave off up to one second per kilometer on the bike compared to other suits" does not sound like a major improvement over the top of the range suits from 2016 - basically 1s per km in the best case scenario between the new LG suit and the worst performer they have tested against at a constant yaw angle?
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What's funny about aero suits is how many wear them & then jack up the savings the suit provides by a crappy water bottles exchange during a race, or flubbing up clipping in pedals at T1.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [Rocky M] [ In reply to ]
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Rocky M wrote:
What's funny about aero suits is how many wear them & then jack up the savings the suit provides by a crappy water bottles exchange during a race, or flubbing up clipping in pedals at T1.

You're looking at it wrong.

The suit makes up for the flubs, meaning it allows you to f up the water bottle exchange and still go as fast as if you hadn't.

Or: me in a speedsuit blowing a bottle transfer still finishes a couple minutes ahead of me in a regular jersey blowing a bottle transfer.

Let's face it, shit happens in races.

And who clips in to their pedals at T1?
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [test] [ In reply to ]
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How many more seasons until there are choices other than black/red, or neon?!
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [Hoffmeister] [ In reply to ]
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I'll gladly take 3min off my IM bike split for the same effort. What they don't say is whether that 1sec is compared to other aero suits or compared to a standard suit.

Hoffmeister wrote:
I have the 2016 model and really like it, but a statement like "Wind tunnel and track testing has shown that it can shave off up to one second per kilometer on the bike compared to other suits" does not sound like a major improvement over the top of the range suits from 2016 - basically 1s per km in the best case scenario between the new LG suit and the worst performer they have tested against at a constant yaw angle?
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Nor did they say whether a loose T-shirt and swim jammers counts as an "other suit."

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I'll gladly take 3min off my IM bike split for the same effort. What they don't say is whether that 1sec is compared to other aero suits or compared to a standard suit.

Hoffmeister wrote:
I have the 2016 model and really like it, but a statement like "Wind tunnel and track testing has shown that it can shave off up to one second per kilometer on the bike compared to other suits" does not sound like a major improvement over the top of the range suits from 2016 - basically 1s per km in the best case scenario between the new LG suit and the worst performer they have tested against at a constant yaw angle?
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [Rocky M] [ In reply to ]
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So instead they should flub, do a bad water exchange and then also wear bad clothes?? I never understand comments like this.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [jeremyebrock] [ In reply to ]
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Lighter colors would be very welcome. Particularly white combinations.

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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Point being - there are absolutely free ways to optimize performance that many people ignore and don't bother to practice or even think about. I agree though, that just because someone doesn't have every last detail perfect, there is still nothing wrong with looking to improve equipment choices.

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So instead they should flub, do a bad water exchange and then also wear bad clothes?? I never understand comments like this.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [georged] [ In reply to ]
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georged wrote:
Lighter colors would be very welcome. Particularly white combinations.
Garneau uses Coldblack fabric treatment for this suit -- so if it's overheating you're concerned about, they've got that covered. Personally, I find misplaced white areas on a tri suit reveal things nobody really wants to see... especially when wet. ;)
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [surroundhound] [ In reply to ]
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surroundhound wrote:
georged wrote:
Lighter colors would be very welcome. Particularly white combinations.

Garneau uses Coldblack fabric treatment for this suit -- so if it's overheating you're concerned about, they've got that covered. Personally, I find misplaced white areas on a tri suit reveal things nobody really wants to see... especially when wet. ;)

I used the suit in hot and not so hot conditions and never once wished I had a suit with better cooling - I think they have that coverered pretty well with Coldblack fabric.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [jeremyebrock] [ In reply to ]
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How many more seasons until there are choices other than black/red, or neon?!

LG has a pretty good custom program, so if you can find a few friends who want something different, you could design your own. I have two custom LG suits (team designs) which are great - I'm not sure of the minimum but I think it was around 25. That seems like a lot but I'm sure if you designed something cool, you could get a bunch of slowtwitchers to sign up for it.

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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [robgray] [ In reply to ]
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Actually, I think LG got rid of the minimums. They'll now do single piece custom
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robgray wrote:
jeremyebrock wrote:
How many more seasons until there are choices other than black/red, or neon?!


LG has a pretty good custom program, so if you can find a few friends who want something different, you could design your own. I have two custom LG suits (team designs) which are great - I'm not sure of the minimum but I think it was around 25. That seems like a lot but I'm sure if you designed something cool, you could get a bunch of slowtwitchers to sign up for it.

Did a 3 custom suit order with LG last year, very easy to work with, A+ experience.

I am wondering if the new suit will be able to do custom orders with or not? New suit has rear pockets finally! That was my only complaint about the M2 suit.

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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [BBLOEHR] [ In reply to ]
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Its on their price list as "coming soon"
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Rocky M wrote:
What's funny about aero suits is how many wear them & then jack up the savings the suit provides by a crappy water bottles exchange during a race, or flubbing up clipping in pedals at T1.


You're looking at it wrong.

The suit makes up for the flubs, meaning it allows you to f up the water bottle exchange and still go as fast as if you hadn't.

Or: me in a speedsuit blowing a bottle transfer still finishes a couple minutes ahead of me in a regular jersey blowing a bottle transfer.

Let's face it, shit happens in races.

And who clips in to their pedals at T1?


Have you watched many races lately? Plenty run to the mount line & clip in. Not what I do, but most aren't practiced enough to safely do this.
Some races don't allow shoes to be clipped into pedals when leaving T1. I know I've had this happen in Kona at least a couple times where it wasn't allowed.

You've missed my point entirely. I've seen those wiggle into speedsuits in T1 only to lose tons of time when they could've used a regular suit & not have had the issue (pre-2016). Additionally, the basic skills athletes should work on are neglected too often but they look to spend $$ on suits to save seconds. Realizing of course, they're typically not put on correctly to save time (you've heard of wrinkles --especially the sleeves on the suit--creating drag I assume?) I know, I shouldn't assume.

You're right, shit happens. The aero suits unlikely "make up" for the flubs.
I'm talking sleeves aero suits--not the ITU style. Show the research, for example, an Oly race time savings, how a sleeved aero suit surpasses time lost by a crappy helmet or shoe clip in, or running to the wrong rack, or really bad wetsuit exit. I doubt you'll find any research on that but you get the point. If you put that suit on wrong,, someone in a regular jersey will blow right by you using your logic. The suits are not magical, contrary to what most want to think. Tim Reed is a good example where regular jersey guys aren't at the back.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [Rocky M] [ In reply to ]
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Rocky M wrote:
davejustdave wrote:
Rocky M wrote:
What's funny about aero suits is how many wear them & then jack up the savings the suit provides by a crappy water bottles exchange during a race, or flubbing up clipping in pedals at T1.


You're looking at it wrong.

The suit makes up for the flubs, meaning it allows you to f up the water bottle exchange and still go as fast as if you hadn't.

Or: me in a speedsuit blowing a bottle transfer still finishes a couple minutes ahead of me in a regular jersey blowing a bottle transfer.

Let's face it, shit happens in races.

And who clips in to their pedals at T1?


Have you watched many races lately? Plenty run to the mount line & clip in. Not what I do, but most aren't practiced enough to safely do this.
Some races don't allow shoes to be clipped into pedals when leaving T1. I know I've had this happen in Kona at least a couple times where it wasn't allowed.

You've missed my point entirely. I've seen those wiggle into speedsuits in T1 only to lose tons of time when they could've used a regular suit & not have had the issue (pre-2016). Additionally, the basic skills athletes should work on are neglected too often but they look to spend $$ on suits to save seconds. Realizing of course, they're typically not put on correctly to save time (you've heard of wrinkles --especially the sleeves on the suit--creating drag I assume?) I know, I shouldn't assume.

You're right, shit happens. The aero suits unlikely "make up" for the flubs.
I'm talking sleeves aero suits--not the ITU style. Show the research, for example, an Oly race time savings, how a sleeved aero suit surpasses time lost by a crappy helmet or shoe clip in, or running to the wrong rack, or really bad wetsuit exit. I doubt you'll find any research on that but you get the point. If you put that suit on wrong,, someone in a regular jersey will blow right by you using your logic. The suits are not magical, contrary to what most want to think. Tim Reed is a good example where regular jersey guys aren't at the back.

You are conflating independent and unrelated issues. No one is buying these suits to make up for T1 "flubs" or a poor helmet choice, etc. The only data comparison is a sleeved suit vs. a non-sleeved suit. The other issues you note are not related...you can actually address both independently.

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I'm a little unclear what benefits these suits are actually offering. Can anyone compare a suit like the LG to a more 'standard' skinsuit, such as this (http://www.voler.com/...e/product/li/1010J01) from voler? Even disregarding aerodynamics for a moment, what's the difference between a tri suit and a skinsuit, other than the tri suit probably having a slightly thinner chamois?

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The most obvious differences are likely the chamois and, to a lesser degree, pockets. A pure TT skinsuit will likely use a more "traditional" (i.e. thicker) chamois and may not have pockets (since carrying food in a TT is not really a priority). You may see some fabric differecnes, I suppose (faster drying), but the benefits would seem to cross over both disciplines.

Personally, I prefer a tri skinsuit over a cycling skinsuit, period. A tinner chamois is more comfortable for me, especially in a TT position.

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Anybody have any sizing info on the LG suit?

Some of the suits mentioned in the 2026 thread aren't available in many sizes (at least right now), notably Kiwami, Castelli, and Scody.

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I wore a medium Kiwami last year. I'm switching to LG this year and I am getting a small. I'm 5"10', 160-163lbs

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stevej wrote:
I wore a medium Kiwami last year. I'm switching to LG this year and I am getting a small. I'm 5"10', 160-163lbs

Whoa, good info, I'm about half an inch taller. Thanks.

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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [CCF] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone got any experience with the Bioracer suit?

http://www.bioracer.com/en/team-clothing/17180/




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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [BBLOEHR] [ In reply to ]
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How did you go about ordering? Just sent them an email with specifications?

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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [test] [ In reply to ]
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I would love for LG rep to come on here an answer some questions. I really like the LG, but I had two issues with it.

- It isn't long enough in the small sizes, it needs to cover more thighs and arms
- It rolls up on the thighs, there needs to be some silicone grippers or something installed to the legs to stiffen it up and prevent rolling.


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TriNewbieZA wrote:
Anyone got any experience with the Bioracer suit?

http://www.bioracer.com/en/team-clothing/17180/


I think you can go to one of their distributors to get measured for a custom suit.
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
I would love for LG rep to come on here an answer some questions. I really like the LG, but I had two issues with it.

- It isn't long enough in the small sizes, it needs to cover more thighs and arms
- It rolls up on the thighs, there needs to be some silicone grippers or something installed to the legs to stiffen it up and prevent rolling.


The 2017 LGNEER version has grippers on the legs, so the rolling issue (for me at least) has been solved. My eyeball test of the size S says that the 2017 version sleeves are about 3/4" or so longer than standard M2, but the fabric pattern/shape is also a little different. The same eyeball test has the legs about the same length. The 2017 version also has more compression in the legs.

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Just spoke with LG. The new "LGNEER" $400 suit is not available for custom... only last year's M2.
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HNUT wrote:
Just spoke with LG. The new "LGNEER" $400 suit is not available for custom... only last year's M2.

Any info about how the two models compare?

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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [test] [ In reply to ]
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Any new updates? Is orca updating thier aero kits? How about castelli san remo short sleeve kit?
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [HNUT] [ In reply to ]
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May be this is a dumb question... but what is the mesh vest thingo on the front of the LG M2?
Is like the DeSoto FliFly "hidden fly just above the pad in front for quick on-the-fly bathroom “relief.�?
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [andrewintown] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Guys,
I hesitate ordering Roka Elite Aero Sleeveless Tri Suit https://www.roka.com/...?variant=22919957697
and the latest Garneau as you mentioned. What would you choose ? I am looking for the best fit, best performance, for a long course ironman distance. Money is not the main factor.

I am 6'2", 165lbs.

I wanted to add custom logos on the suit. Roka does not offer customization. Did someone added them using Image Heat Transfert or other local services on this kind of material ?

Thank you very much !
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [ridehungry] [ In reply to ]
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Kiwami would be your best choice, as their suit is the best tech and lasts. Andre can also add any logos as you'd like and will do the design as well. contact@kiwamitri.com
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [ridehungry] [ In reply to ]
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I've been looking into the Roka Elite Aero SS and the 2XU Project X Trisuit (somehow only available at trisports). With "SHARE15" discount code on the Project X, it's the same cost as the Roka Elite.

I'm looking for fastest and most comfortable in that range, but the 2XU X-Vent at $170 is enticing. I really want something that is full zip for easier ventilation and piss-stops on the run.

Anyone have experience with either? There seems to be no information on the Project X...but the TriSports customer support says it's basically a swim skin that's been engineered to be aero on the bike and comfortable to run in. Certainly looks that way, just not sure if it's worth an extra $100 over the X-Vent.
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These are great suits, check it out here... https://www.wattieink.com/...?variant=36881450958
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [TH3_FRB] [ In reply to ]
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Off topic with everyone looking at expensive suits but I saw this on Amazon for cheap. Anyone know anything about this company? Seems almost worth it on a risk/reward curve for the price. Doesn't workout you have a training suit. http://www.slstri.com/


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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [CCF] [ In reply to ]
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If I have the chance to get my hands on a brand new 2016 LG M2 aero suit for $150 would you say I should jump on that as it is a pretty good deal?

And If it is a good deal, in checking their size chart I fit a Medium almost perfectly except for the chest they say 40" for the Medium but my chest is a solid 41". Is this an issue to go to the Large or should it be fine?
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I am still looking, in vain, for a trisuit with sizing options for "alternative sized" triathletes. While I wish I was tall and skinny, I am not. So I need an XL/2XL - Short or something like that. Or I need a truly custom suit - made to order. For years I have asked for a trisuit that is made for the Clydesdale - not the 6'5" one but the 5'9" one.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [mbecks2] [ In reply to ]
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mbecks2 wrote:


These are great suits, check it out here... https://www.wattieink.com/...?variant=36881450958

Oh man, I'm sure that's good suit, but damn it's fugly.

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CCF wrote:
mbecks2 wrote:


These are great suits, check it out here... https://www.wattieink.com/...?variant=36881450958


Oh man, I'm sure that's good suit, but damn it's fugly.

I really like it and wish it came in my size!
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [HonestYP] [ In reply to ]
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What I didn't love about the LG M2 was the interior pockets (not the end of the world but not the best), and I did in one race get a weird rubbing/irritation from the gripper on the back of my thigh (someone else mentioned this).

But it's otherwise a comfortable suit that seems pretty fast.

I'd definitely get the M if I were you (I'm probably similarly sized to you and the M was fine, no problems in the chest).
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May not be your style but they have a bunch of different designs so check it out...certainly more unique than the big brands who do the same color schemes year after year.
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There's also HumanSpeed, a small Danish company that got it's start with the help of Rasmus Henning. They use the same manufacturer as Craft, so pretty good quality.
http://www.humanspeed.dk



I got a fully custom design done for myself. Haven't raced in it yet, but if it's anything like the Craft suits I've had before, it'll be great. It fits great and the materials are so nice.



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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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Has anyone looked into the De Soto Riviera Flisuit?

https://www.desotosport.com/collections/men/products/riviera-flisuit


I wasn't a big fan of 1 piece suits soley b/c of the fly issue and not wanting to lose time training to take my top off (and no I don't like pissing on myself) but this might be my reason to get a 1 piece tri suit




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Does anyone besides Kiwami make a sleeved suit that has a full zip and open flaps on the front of the "jersey" portion?
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JustTooFarr wrote:
Does anyone besides Kiwami make a sleeved suit that has a full zip and open flaps on the front of the "jersey" portion?

castelli tri suit.
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JustTooFarr wrote:
Does anyone besides Kiwami make a sleeved suit that has a full zip and open flaps on the front of the "jersey" portion?

Both LG M2 and Lgneer suits , as well as the Castelli Free San Remo suit have the full zip/open flaps on the jersey part.

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owtbac86 wrote:
JustTooFarr wrote:
Does anyone besides Kiwami make a sleeved suit that has a full zip and open flaps on the front of the "jersey" portion?


Both LG M2 and Lgneer suits , as well as the Castelli Free San Remo suit have the full zip/open flaps on the jersey part.

Roka has a similar full zip front on their suits, too.
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Kind of looks like someone just got out of prison..."Sir, we're going to have to hold your progress in this race to check on any possible warrants..."
johnnybefit wrote:
CCF wrote:
mbecks2 wrote:


These are great suits, check it out here... https://www.wattieink.com/...?variant=36881450958


Oh man, I'm sure that's good suit, but damn it's fugly.


I really like it and wish it came in my size!
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [TriowaCPA] [ In reply to ]
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TriowaCPA wrote:
I really want something that is full zip for easier ventilation and piss-stops on the run.


Maybe you've found a suit already, but not sure how much ventilation benefit you'll get from a full zip suit with the new zipper-to-sternum limit. Considering it is enforced.

*Edit* I missed the piss-stop part. Carry on.

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The Kiwami suit is not connected in the front, so "piss stops" are no issue at all, even with the zipper fully engaged.


way2sloow wrote:
TriowaCPA wrote:
I really want something that is full zip for easier ventilation and piss-stops on the run.


Maybe you've found a suit already, but not sure how much ventilation benefit you'll get from a full zip suit with the new zipper-to-sternum limit. Considering it is enforced.

*Edit* I missed the piss-stop part. Carry on.
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Anyone got experience with the new 2XU X-Vent full zip trisuit? The fabric of the color panels seems to have an ‘open structure’ and I’m wondering how the sun (UV) protection is.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [siemons] [ In reply to ]
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I finally chose the Roka tri suit with sleeves in size ST as I am 165lbs 6'2". It fits tight but just ok. It feels good and should be fast. I will get the sponsor logos to be heat printed on it. Will see how it will end up as the small vertical stretch lines makes it a little bit tricky to do this.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [TriNewbieZA] [ In reply to ]
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BelgiumBike.com is the importer for Bioracer in the US.
There is a stock, semi custom and full custom option.
Fully custom is for 2 suits $1850. But you will have to travel to Florida to get measured.
They will pick you up, put you on hotel overnight and feed you for that price as well.
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Saw this today from Voler while looking for some new bib shorts (love their cycling stuff)

http://www.voler.com/...e/product/li/1010J13

Looks like a good price anyone have any experience?
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siemons wrote:
Anyone got experience with the new 2XU X-Vent full zip trisuit? The fabric of the color panels seems to have an ‘open structure’ and I’m wondering how the sun (UV) protection is.

I bought a new version of the Kiwami Spider LD Aero (lime/blue) for racing, and since I like training in a one piece suit, I rolled the dice on the 2XU X-vent because the price is right. I've worn the Kiwami twice for short training BRICKs and the 2XU X-Vent for about a half-dozen 40+ mile Bikes/ BRICK Runs.

I must say, I absolutely love the X-Vent. It looks great; love the dimples on the sleeve ; it's super comfortable ; my iPhone 7 plus w/ case fits in the back side aero pocket ; the front bottom is separate the same as the Kiwami for nature breaks -- and actually I like the 2XU X-vent design in the front better because the fabric from the shorts(front waist) goes up further and covers the bottom of my belly, whereas the Kiwami waist fabric of the shorts barely comes up. Granted, I'm 5'10" and 187 lbs so someone with a greyhound build may not have this issue. Because of my build I also found the X-Vent more comfortable and stretchable to my frame.

Side by side, my guess is the Kiwami Spider LD Aero will test faster in a wind tunnel. The Kiwami clearer uses higher grade technical materials, which dry amazingly quick and repel water like Rain-X on a windshield -- water just beads up on the material and runs off; whereas the 2XU X-Vent absorbs the water. The Kiwami on me also has less wrinkles in the sleeves.

Right now, for a Sprint, Olympic and probably for Eagleman half I'm going to go with my Kiwami -- but right now if I were doing a 140.6 I'd definitely choose the X-Vent for comfort and cooling. The vents do work. And the Kiwami, for me does run warmer so far in my training experience.

Hope this helps.
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Anyone got experience with the new 2XU X-Vent full zip trisuit? The fabric of the color panels seems to have an ‘open structure’ and I’m wondering how the sun (UV) protection is.

Oops, forgot to answer your UV question. I'm a fair skinned Scot who burns easily, and on one 60-miler/ 3-hour ride at high noon on a sunny day, the X-Vent provided 100% sun protection -- even on the vented sides. The vent is a mesh material, with no actual openings of any kind.

Also, the chamois is top notch. I actually like the X-vent chamois better than the Spider. It's a touch plusher, and leaves zero irritation on my bum.
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Ill Second or third that. I have worn a few different suits, and this is by FAR the most comfortable, easiest to put on suit i have ever owned. Worth the extra money!

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blaxxuede wrote:
Saw this today from Voler while looking for some new bib shorts (love their cycling stuff)

http://www.voler.com/...e/product/li/1010J13

Looks like a good price anyone have any experience?

I have both the sleeved and non-sleeved version. Excellent tri suits and I just tested these in the tunnel. I was quite surprised that they tested slightly faster than my Kiwami suit. I raced Choo in the suit and it was great.
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Nice! I wear small in pretty much everything...
Some suits being a tad tight......5'8" 145-150 ....
would this be any different sizing?
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I'm exactly your height/weight. I wear Voler size small. No issue with it being too tight (it is snug, but comfortably so).
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Nice! I wear small in pretty much everything...
Some suits being a tad tight......5'8" 145-150 ....
would this be any different sizing?

You will be a Voler size small for sure.
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Thanks guys!
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I'm interested in both the 2xu X Vent and 2xu Compression.

I'm planning to use two suits for training and in races. It seems like there are a lot of nice features on the X Vent, like comfort and design (dimpled sleeves), but I don't like the fact that it seems to take on water. Obviously, I'm not dropping $369 on a Kiwami Spider so you can't have it all at $118. As well, I'm not sure I liked a high waist on the X Vent. I prefer a low rise waist. I'm 5'9" 160lbs.

The 2xu compression looks nice too. I like the compressive qualities.

What's the fit on the X Vent? It's not sloppy is it? Keep in mind I'd like to use
this for training and racing. Would you recommend 2xu X Vent or 2xu Compression?


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siemons wrote:
Anyone got experience with the new 2XU X-Vent full zip trisuit? The fabric of the color panels seems to have an ‘open structure’ and I’m wondering how the sun (UV) protection is.

I bought a new version of the Kiwami Spider LD Aero (lime/blue) for racing, and since I like training in a one piece suit, I rolled the dice on the 2XU X-vent because the price is right. I've worn the Kiwami twice for short training BRICKs and the 2XU X-Vent for about a half-dozen 40+ mile Bikes/ BRICK Runs.

I must say, I absolutely love the X-Vent. It looks great; love the dimples on the sleeve ; it's super comfortable ; my iPhone 7 plus w/ case fits in the back side aero pocket ; the front bottom is separate the same as the Kiwami for nature breaks -- and actually I like the 2XU X-vent design in the front better because the fabric from the shorts(front waist) goes up further and covers the bottom of my belly, whereas the Kiwami waist fabric of the shorts barely comes up. Granted, I'm 5'10" and 187 lbs so someone with a greyhound build may not have this issue. Because of my build I also found the X-Vent more comfortable and stretchable to my frame.

Side by side, my guess is the Kiwami Spider LD Aero will test faster in a wind tunnel. The Kiwami clearer uses higher grade technical materials, which dry amazingly quick and repel water like Rain-X on a windshield -- water just beads up on the material and runs off; whereas the 2XU X-Vent absorbs the water. The Kiwami on me also has less wrinkles in the sleeves.

Right now, for a Sprint, Olympic and probably for Eagleman half I'm going to go with my Kiwami -- but right now if I were doing a 140.6 I'd definitely choose the X-Vent for comfort and cooling. The vents do work. And the Kiwami, for me does run warmer so far in my training experience.

Hope this helps.
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siemons wrote:
Anyone got experience with the new 2XU X-Vent full zip trisuit? The fabric of the color panels seems to have an ‘open structure’ and I’m wondering how the sun (UV) protection is.

I bought a new version of the Kiwami Spider LD Aero (lime/blue) for racing, and since I like training in a one piece suit, I rolled the dice on the 2XU X-vent because the price is right. I've worn the Kiwami twice for short training BRICKs and the 2XU X-Vent for about a half-dozen 40+ mile Bikes/ BRICK Runs.

I must say, I absolutely love the X-Vent. It looks great; love the dimples on the sleeve ; it's super comfortable ; my iPhone 7 plus w/ case fits in the back side aero pocket ; the front bottom is separate the same as the Kiwami for nature breaks -- and actually I like the 2XU X-vent design in the front better because the fabric from the shorts(front waist) goes up further and covers the bottom of my belly, whereas the Kiwami waist fabric of the shorts barely comes up. Granted, I'm 5'10" and 187 lbs so someone with a greyhound build may not have this issue. Because of my build I also found the X-Vent more comfortable and stretchable to my frame.

Side by side, my guess is the Kiwami Spider LD Aero will test faster in a wind tunnel. The Kiwami clearer uses higher grade technical materials, which dry amazingly quick and repel water like Rain-X on a windshield -- water just beads up on the material and runs off; whereas the 2XU X-Vent absorbs the water. The Kiwami on me also has less wrinkles in the sleeves.

Right now, for a Sprint, Olympic and probably for Eagleman half I'm going to go with my Kiwami -- but right now if I were doing a 140.6 I'd definitely choose the X-Vent for comfort and cooling. The vents do work. And the Kiwami, for me does run warmer so far in my training experience.

Hope this helps.

Appreciate the thoughts. Swim Outlet has the X Vent for $118 right now. I just ordered one as you convinced me it was worth a shot.
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I'm interested in both the 2xu X Vent and 2xu Compression.

I'm planning to use two suits for training and in races. It seems like there are a lot of nice features on the X Vent, like comfort and design (dimpled sleeves), but I don't like the fact that it seems to take on water. Obviously, I'm not dropping $369 on a Kiwami Spider so you can't have it all at $118. As well, I'm not sure I liked a high waist on the X Vent. I prefer a low rise waist. I'm 5'9" 160lbs.

The 2xu compression looks nice too. I like the compressive qualities.

What's the fit on the X Vent? It's not sloppy is it? Keep in mind I'd like to use
this for training and racing. Would you recommend 2xu X Vent or 2xu Compression? [/quote mwanner1]

I haven't worn a 2XU Compression tri suit so I can't offer an opinion. I've only worn the 2XU compression shorts, which I like very much. The X-Vent is definitely not compressive like their shorts, but still fits snug enough.

The X-Vent is certainly not sloppy; however it's not as "neat"/compressive as the Kiwami Spider LD Aero. But I do have issues with both, and both have pros and cons. The X-Vent thigh bands at the very end have lost some elasticity after 8 uses. Again, for the price point the X-Vent is comparable to a DeSoto Riviera Tri suit -- which I wore last year for Lake Placid full ; and I like the X-vent a lot more. It's also holding up better than the DeSoto '16 Riviera where the chamois pad rolled up in half inside the outer fabric.

I wore my Kiwami LD Aero Spider yesterday for a tempo 13 mile run, just my 3rd time wearing it, and the compressive attributes are noticeable and great. I'm disappointed thought that just after two ultra-delicate washings the spider design on the thighs is cracking - badly. Not sure how or if this will affect performance.
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I wish the sleeved suits didn't all have pockets.

I am pale as a ghost and like the shoulder coverage, but do lots of short races so I'm not wearing a wetsuit. I have a swim skin and would love to get a trisuit I can swim in that I don't need to wear the skin over. I can only find sleeveless.
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BT_DreamChaser wrote:
mwanner1 wrote:
I'm interested in both the 2xu X Vent and 2xu Compression.

I'm planning to use two suits for training and in races. It seems like there are a lot of nice features on the X Vent, like comfort and design (dimpled sleeves), but I don't like the fact that it seems to take on water. Obviously, I'm not dropping $369 on a Kiwami Spider so you can't have it all at $118. As well, I'm not sure I liked a high waist on the X Vent. I prefer a low rise waist. I'm 5'9" 160lbs.

The 2xu compression looks nice too. I like the compressive qualities.

What's the fit on the X Vent? It's not sloppy is it? Keep in mind I'd like to use
this for training and racing. Would you recommend 2xu X Vent or 2xu Compression? [/quote mwanner1]

I haven't worn a 2XU Compression tri suit so I can't offer an opinion. I've only worn the 2XU compression shorts, which I like very much. The X-Vent is definitely not compressive like their shorts, but still fits snug enough.

The X-Vent is certainly not sloppy; however it's not as "neat"/compressive as the Kiwami Spider LD Aero. But I do have issues with both, and both have pros and cons. The X-Vent thigh bands at the very end have lost some elasticity after 8 uses. Again, for the price point the X-Vent is comparable to a DeSoto Riviera Tri suit -- which I wore last year for Lake Placid full ; and I like the X-vent a lot more. It's also holding up better than the DeSoto '16 Riviera where the chamois pad rolled up in half inside the outer fabric.

I wore my Kiwami LD Aero Spider yesterday for a tempo 13 mile run, just my 3rd time wearing it, and the compressive attributes are noticeable and great. I'm disappointed thought that just after two ultra-delicate washings the spider design on the thighs is cracking - badly. Not sure how or if this will affect performance.

I have not heard of the spider having such issues, and mine have all lasted like new after 1 and 2 seasons. Customer service is a very strong point with Kiwami, so please let Andre or me know and we'll look into it. We want you happy with your purchase and the support.

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Thanks for the feedback on the X Vent.It sounds durable and comfortable. I'm pretty much down to the X Vent or Blueseventy TX2000. The problem with the Blueseventy is that it's currently out of stock and runs $175 to the X Vent at $118. I think the Blueseventy might be better in the water than the X Vent, but if it's not available for a month I'll probably go X Vent.

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mwanner1 wrote:
I'm interested in both the 2xu X Vent and 2xu Compression.

I'm planning to use two suits for training and in races. It seems like there are a lot of nice features on the X Vent, like comfort and design (dimpled sleeves), but I don't like the fact that it seems to take on water. Obviously, I'm not dropping $369 on a Kiwami Spider so you can't have it all at $118. As well, I'm not sure I liked a high waist on the X Vent. I prefer a low rise waist. I'm 5'9" 160lbs.

The 2xu compression looks nice too. I like the compressive qualities.

What's the fit on the X Vent? It's not sloppy is it? Keep in mind I'd like to use
this for training and racing. Would you recommend 2xu X Vent or 2xu Compression? [/quote mwanner1]

I haven't worn a 2XU Compression tri suit so I can't offer an opinion. I've only worn the 2XU compression shorts, which I like very much. The X-Vent is definitely not compressive like their shorts, but still fits snug enough.

The X-Vent is certainly not sloppy; however it's not as "neat"/compressive as the Kiwami Spider LD Aero. But I do have issues with both, and both have pros and cons. The X-Vent thigh bands at the very end have lost some elasticity after 8 uses. Again, for the price point the X-Vent is comparable to a DeSoto Riviera Tri suit -- which I wore last year for Lake Placid full ; and I like the X-vent a lot more. It's also holding up better than the DeSoto '16 Riviera where the chamois pad rolled up in half inside the outer fabric.

I wore my Kiwami LD Aero Spider yesterday for a tempo 13 mile run, just my 3rd time wearing it, and the compressive attributes are noticeable and great. I'm disappointed thought that just after two ultra-delicate washings the spider design on the thighs is cracking - badly. Not sure how or if this will affect performance.
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You aren't suppose to machine wash the spider. Even if on ultra delicate. Kiwami has been pretty adamant about this. Hand wash only.

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Louis garneau m2 skin has no pockets
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Thanks, hadn't found that one.
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You're right. That's my bad entirely. I even reached out to Andre for clarification on how to wash, and then chose not follow directions. Need to suck it up and just get used to handwashing.
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Although not a tri "suit" does anyone have any experience with the dhb short sleeve tri jersey on wiggle.com? The price is quite attractive.
http://www.wiggle.com/...rt-sleeve-tri-top-1/

Also, has anyone tested the 'aeroness' of the LG speed bolero worn with a tight fitting sleeveless jersey?
https://garneau.com/us/en/speed-bolero

The wrinkles in the underarm area look like they may be problematic.
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Apollo71 wrote:
Although not a tri "suit" does anyone have any experience with the dhb short sleeve tri jersey on wiggle.com? The price is quite attractive.
http://www.wiggle.com/...rt-sleeve-tri-top-1/

Also, has anyone tested the 'aeroness' of the LG speed bolero worn with a tight fitting sleeveless jersey?
https://garneau.com/us/en/speed-bolero

The wrinkles in the underarm area look like they may be problematic.

Agreed on all the dhb stuff. Never really gave it a look until now but they sure pass the eye test... Would be interested if anyone has first hand experience.

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I pulled the trigger on the Castelli San Remo. It was on sale recently as Sigma Sport for $143 USD ($229 Regular). I'm 5'9" and 160lbs. I have broad shoulders, a barrel chest and muscular arms from previous years of weightlifting. I would say that the suit is a very snug fit or race fit for me. I was surprised how low the neck line was on the front and back. Overall, the suit is amazing. I used it on a 63 mile training ride and it felt fast. It really felt great in the legs as they were quite compressive and help stabilize the muscles. The material was very thin especially at the ends of the legs. I'm not sure how it will hold up over time, but I washed the suit in the washing machine as directed and it looks fine.

I can't give a full review, since I have not swam in it. The sleeves are tight so I don't know if it will affect shoulder movement or assist with the pull. I do really like this suit for the price I paid.
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mwanner1 wrote:
I pulled the trigger on the Castelli San Remo. It was on sale recently as Sigma Sport for $143 USD ($229 Regular). I'm 5'9" and 160lbs. I have broad shoulders, a barrel chest and muscular arms from previous years of weightlifting. I would say that the suit is a very snug fit or race fit for me. I was surprised how low the neck line was on the front and back. Overall, the suit is amazing. I used it on a 63 mile training ride and it felt fast. It really felt great in the legs as they were quite compressive and help stabilize the muscles. The material was very thin especially at the ends of the legs. I'm not sure how it will hold up over time, but I washed the suit in the washing machine as directed and it looks fine.

I can't give a full review, since I have not swam in it. The sleeves are tight so I don't know if it will affect shoulder movement or assist with the pull. I do really like this suit for the price I paid.

Dammit I thought I had a good deal when I got my SanRemo for 21% off from Comp. Cyclist last month, that sigma sport price is $40 better! Agreed though, I really like the suit. Not sure i'm in love with the bottom of the legs as the material is not as soft as what I'm used to but it doesn't bother me while training. The inside of the zipper does annoy a bit, but outside of that I'm loving it more than my Desoto flisuit, which I didn't think was possible.
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Off topic with everyone looking at expensive suits but I saw this on Amazon for cheap. Anyone know anything about this company? Seems almost worth it on a risk/reward curve for the price. Doesn't workout you have a training suit. http://www.slstri.com/

I have one- haven't actually used it yet but based on look and feel, it's what I expected for the price. The chamois seems good, and the legs are a good length. I'm 5'10 155 and the small fits well. The sleeves seem a little short, but mostly I'm looking to protect my shoulders from the sun in HIMs. I got mine from Leftlane Sports for about $60.

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Size? I'm closer to 5'8" and 152-154lb race weight.

mwanner1 wrote:
I pulled the trigger on the Castelli San Remo...I'm 5'9" and 160lbs. I have broad shoulders, a barrel chest and muscular arms from previous years of weightlifting. I would say that the suit is a very snug fit or race fit for me.
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I'm a little unclear what benefits these suits are actually offering. Can anyone compare a suit like the LG to a more 'standard' skinsuit, such as this (http://www.voler.com/...e/product/li/1010J01) from voler? Even disregarding aerodynamics for a moment, what's the difference between a tri suit and a skinsuit, other than the tri suit probably having a slightly thinner chamois?

-Colin

What I love about the LG especially for IM is the front flaps open right up making it easier to get the suit on and off especially if wet from sweat should you have to stop for a #2. There is no way I can get some other suits back over my shoulders without help.
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The biggest differences between a road suit (that you linked) and a tri suit will be the pad and the pockets, if the road suit has any. I have the Voler road suit for road racing. The pad is the same you find in their cycling bib shorts, and the suit has two pockets in the back that do not have any covers on them. I had planned on using this suit in a multi-event race, but I didn't not like pad for running in or nordic skiing in, but may have been comfortable for the kayak leg. I bought a Cuore tri suit for this race, and have also used this suit for some of our Wednesday night TTs when the weather has been warmer. The Cuore suit has a much smaller pad, easier to run in, and has four small pockets on the back. Two pockets have covers and the other two are basically large enough for a gel packet to slide in. I think all four pockets on the Cuore together are smaller than the two pockets on the Voler suit.
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This is taking the piss!! This is the second season I race with Virklon's Aero Tri Suit and I wouldn't change it for the world. They are a top Spanish brand who accept your own bespoke design and produce very high quality garments! I got my design from a professional sports marketing company, AND the tri suit for less than $379.

See the trisuit and more details here: http://www.ironmanangolano.com/.../05/13/2017-trisuit/

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I'm curious if anyone has asked the question about the aero tri suits and swim skins. It's no debate that the aero tri suits with sleeves are faster on the bike, but in a non-wetsuit swim where you are wearing an aero tri suit and a swim skin, is it faster to roll that down your to your waist/mid-section and put it on in T1 for your torso or swim in it? I have done an Ironman swim in it with my ROKA skin over it and it was one of my slowest swim in years (2nd slowest since my very first IM out of 11). I see some pros doing it both ways so I'm not sure there have been any tests on it slowing you down or having a zero effect on the swim.
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I have a Kiwami Spider aero and I would not roll it down. Getting it up and positioned correctly while wet is a real issue. That said, swimming in it is really not an issue. The sleeves are extremely flexible and absolutely NO restriction at all. Just raced this weekend in kine and it was superb!
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this is why we decided to manufacture a sleeved swimskin: circumvent the sleeved trisuit rolldown.
ours is called the aquarush and you keep your trisuit on. so no need to struggle with it at t1 and a much more streamlined body in the water. results are excellent and time savings are significant.

don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions.

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I didn't have issues with restrictions, just wondering if it is more hydrodynamic with just skin vs. the sleeved suit.
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mwanner1 wrote:
I pulled the trigger on the Castelli San Remo. It was on sale recently as Sigma Sport for $143 USD ($229 Regular). I'm 5'9" and 160lbs. I have broad shoulders, a barrel chest and muscular arms from previous years of weightlifting. I would say that the suit is a very snug fit or race fit for me.

What size did you buy?


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Not sure if this has been posted here yet but there's a new suit available from wynrepublic (Luke Mackenzie)...

https://wynrepublic.com/...triathlon-collection

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I have the San Remo as well as a HUUB one
My issue is that I have skinnier arms than many Triathletes (more road cycling) and I find that the jersey looks very snug standing up but as soon as I am in an aero bars it bunches up quite badly
I am wondering if sleeved is not for me.....
Are there any designs with particularly tight arms?
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Luke was wearing it at Raleigh 70.3 this year and it looked fantastic in person. Luke's been setting the apparel trend for years now and excited to see what this company can do in the market place.
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dewman wrote:
mwanner1 wrote:
I pulled the trigger on the Castelli San Remo. It was on sale recently as Sigma Sport for $143 USD ($229 Regular). I'm 5'9" and 160lbs. I have broad shoulders, a barrel chest and muscular arms from previous years of weightlifting. I would say that the suit is a very snug fit or race fit for me.

What size did you buy?
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Do you find the HUUB chamois is a bit too thin for long course racing ?
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Reading through all of this data I'm convinced the answer is going to be, "Buy a few and send back the ones that don't work," but for the purposes of novice tri suit purchasing, which measurements should I give more weight to when checking out sizing charts, waist/chest or height? Can anyone speak in general fitting terms? Which brands tend to fit a tall, skinny guy best?

I'm 6'1" and 160, 32 waist. Should I assume that being stretchy, most suits will accommodate my height and pick one that will fit snugly? Or do I have to sell out larger to get one that won't put me on the highway to Wedgie-town?
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I have a similar question. Could someone recommend a sleeved suit for the tall/skinny crowd? I'm 6' 1" 153lbs.

I always wear smalls for regular 2 piece suits and deal with the sunburn on my low back. Mediums usually fit better lengthwise but are baggy. I wear Orca and Castelli small tri kits, but imagine their one pieces would put me in Wedgie-town.
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I have a similar question. Could someone recommend a sleeved suit for the tall/skinny crowd? I'm 6' 1" 153lb


I have the Garneau one-piece suit. I'm 6'2" and 158ish. I wear a Medium. I don't do triathlons. I use this for the occasional TT that I do. Fits me nice and tight, but comfortable.


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Kiwami runs very slender. You may want to contact Andre, as I have always been extremely pleased with my kits from him.

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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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stevej wrote:
Not sure if this has been posted here yet but there's a new suit available from wynrepublic (Luke Mackenzie)...

https://wynrepublic.com/...triathlon-collection



Just got the sleeved tri suit and first impression is that it's a really nice suit. The material feels good, the fit works for me, and the pad (for me) is ideal.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [migangeloo] [ In reply to ]
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I got my VirKlon suit last month and I've been pretty impressed, especially given the price point (€115 shipped, with a custom design made by a colleague). Never had an aero tri suit before, but the fabric and cut was top notch and comparable to my Sportful jerseys.

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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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Just finished my first ironman in lake placid today. I wore the kiwami LD sleeved one piece. It was amazing. It was comfortable and cool the whole day. Would pay that again for that suit. Thanks for the suggestion Gary. Anybisy looking for a suit you can't go wrong with this.

David

H & A Racing
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [dbro1] [ In reply to ]
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dbro1 wrote:
Just finished my first ironman in lake placid today. I wore the kiwami LD sleeved one piece. It was amazing. It was comfortable and cool the whole day. Would pay that again for that suit. Thanks for the suggestion Gary. Anybisy looking for a suit you can't go wrong with this.

Thanks for the update David, and Congrats! Sounds like you had a good day....
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [joelcox] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, Ive been with them for two seasons now. Pics below are from last year, where I ended up buying two suits due to a change in sponsors, and the black one is from this eyar, going on my second one for the same reason as well. as far as I'm concerned,best bang for buck out there! Not changing brand anytime soon.




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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [Jloewe] [ In reply to ]
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I bought the SLS suit for the 49 offer they had. It is fair, I am 5.11, 170 lbs, and the suit feels 'big' to me around the mid section. I would like to see it a little tighter. Wore it in 1 race so far, and 3 training sessions, and one of the seems looks like it is pulling. I will have to take a closer look to see how bad. I wish the back pocket had a flap to cover it (like my LG does), but for the price I can't complain. Was not too warm (my race was a rather hot day).
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [test] [ In reply to ]
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I know it's a little late in the season but I just wanted to give a thumbs up on the LG suit. I have finally found a suit that fits me well. It's compressive but not restrictive (no wrinkles!). I find the pad to be just right for tris, and IMHO, TTs as well. Finally, I'm very impressed with the construction, both stitching and the materials. Some suits I've tried on in the past just feel flimsy. This one feels like it's built to last.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [BoKnowsT1D] [ In reply to ]
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I know it's a little late in the season but I just wanted to give a thumbs up on the LG suit. I have finally found a suit that fits me well. It's compressive but not restrictive (no wrinkles!). I find the pad to be just right for tris, and IMHO, TTs as well. Finally, I'm very impressed with the construction, both stitching and the materials. Some suits I've tried on in the past just feel flimsy. This one feels like it's built to last.

I'm a fan of the LG as well. Very good fit, nice minimal pad.
Did you find you had to size down compared to other trisuits? I'm 5'10 178, and I'm always a medium, no way I could ever squeeze into a small.....but in the LG, I needed a small.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [BoKnowsT1D] [ In reply to ]
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BoKnowsT1D wrote:
I know it's a little late in the season but I just wanted to give a thumbs up on the LG suit. I have finally found a suit that fits me well. It's compressive but not restrictive (no wrinkles!). I find the pad to be just right for tris, and IMHO, TTs as well. Finally, I'm very impressed with the construction, both stitching and the materials. Some suits I've tried on in the past just feel flimsy. This one feels like it's built to last.


+1 to the LG. Very comfortable and fit is excellent. But after racing in it 4-5 times the fabric around my waste is deteriorating. Odd. I love that suit!
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [SBRcanuck] [ In reply to ]
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The fit is slightly larger on the LG. I'm not sure if it's a full size. It's ability to stretch allows a decent amount of leeway to size down for a tighter fit.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [tctritexan] [ In reply to ]
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I totally feel the same way! What did you end up going with?



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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [in10siv] [ In reply to ]
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Been using my custom team 2XU w ROKA swim skin over it. Don't know which is slower but I bet we see a trend in swim skins going to short sleeves soon.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [tctritexan] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone have experience with Roka's triathlon apparel? I see Roka just announced, Men's Gen II Elite Aero Short Sleeve Tri Suit (https://www.roka.com/...hort-sleeve-tri-suit), to ship September 11. Am considering this trisuit along with Kiwami.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [DesertTriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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I just received the Kiwami Spider LD trisuit. I like it but I think I might return it since the "shirt" part doesn't go far enough below the shorts. If I lift my arms up the "shirt" part rises up so you can see my belly. Its kind of annoying to have this. It almost needs an elastic/gripper at the end of it so it stays snug to the body.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [trimac2] [ In reply to ]
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I had the same poor fit issue with that suit.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [DesertTriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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Their last gen sleeved suit is the comfiest suit I have. That said, I wouldn't want to wear it in hot weather.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [test] [ In reply to ]
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I saw this (photo) and made the mistake of asking Emilio if he was going to make it in the Riviera suit.

So, apparently the answer was......"Yours can be the first one!".

So, it shall be.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [test] [ In reply to ]
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I have been managing team orders through Pactimo for a few years and they just released what finally looks like a worthy sleeved tri suit that can be custom made. They 'introduced' one this year (that I'm pretty sure was never actually made for anybody) with a REAR zip and no pocket options. A rear zip sleeved suit? Weird.

Anyhow, it looks like they have a lot of details right on this one and you can do as small as a 5 piece order without too much hassle. Your choice of sleeves or not and you can add pockets on the back or thigh. I don't see the utility of the thigh pocket, but it drives me crazy that my trusty old Pearl Izumi Octane doesn't have anywhere to slip a flask or two. I should be wearing our club stuff, but I know I'm giving up speed with the sleeveless (and pocketless) tri suit.

**Updated with prices) Ascent level (with sleeves and pockets) is $121 and the Summit is $151 pre-tax for a minimum order of 5. If you want rear pockets, then it comes with the thigh pockets. It's all or nothing. We are starting the design process for the Summit.

Ascent example

Summit example

Last edited by: dangle: Oct 10, 17 12:12
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [trimac2] [ In reply to ]
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Yes the same thing happens to me as well but I still love the suit! I've only worn mine for a 30 minute bike session and one sprint tri and the graphics are all cracking and peeling. I've emailed the various Kiwami sites through their 'contact us' section and haven't received any responses. Pretty disappointing.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [sorelegs] [ In reply to ]
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This happened to me as well; they did repair it but I had to pay for shipping and was certainly disappointed to see that happen in a $300 suit.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [DesertTriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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DesertTriGuy wrote:
Does anyone have experience with Roka's triathlon apparel? I see Roka just announced, Men's Gen II Elite Aero Short Sleeve Tri Suit (https://www.roka.com/...hort-sleeve-tri-suit), to ship September 11. Am considering this trisuit along with Kiwami.

Pre-ordered it in Medium and Large. Not sure which will be a better fit for me, but the suit looks great and everyone I know who has the old one loves it.

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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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GreenPlease wrote:
Their last gen sleeved suit is the comfiest suit I have. That said, I wouldn't want to wear it in hot weather.

Why not in hot weather? I wore it in a few hot Florida races without an issue.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [ffmedic84] [ In reply to ]
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Man I wore it on one long brick back in May (I'm in CFL) and melted. My go-to hot weather gear is either a sleeveless Kiwami or PI shorts and my white Castelli aero top (whatever they call it).
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [DesertTriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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Received the new Roka tri suit Friday, the 8th wasn't suppose to ship until the 11th. The suit is awesome and fits like a glove. I'm 6'5" 182#'s and it's been hard to find a suit that fits, have the MT. The suit has no wrinkles and the length is great. The legs come down like nice cycling shorts and the arms are about to my elbows. The material and construction are top notch. It was great finding a top quality suit for tall people have spent a lot of money sending suits back, this one is a keeper thanks Roka!
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [sorr] [ In reply to ]
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The laser cut hems with the tacky interior they use on the bibs really makes the fit on the lower half. I just wish they had leg or hip holsters paired with the lower rear back pockets.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [anthonypat] [ In reply to ]
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Are you referring to cycling bibs here?
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Yes
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [anthonypat] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. Do you any pics of the chamois you can post? I tempted but VERY particular about chamois (even plenty of ones I would consider high quality don't work for me) and I didn't see any on the site.
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DFW_Tri wrote:
Thanks. Do you any pics of the chamois you can post? I tempted but VERY particular about chamois (even plenty of ones I would consider high quality don't work for me) and I didn't see any on the site.

Sorry, only tried them at the expo, didn't ride with them
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [sorr] [ In reply to ]
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sorr wrote:
Received the new Roka tri suit Friday, the 8th wasn't suppose to ship until the 11th. The suit is awesome and fits like a glove. I'm 6'5" 182#'s and it's been hard to find a suit that fits, have the MT. The suit has no wrinkles and the length is great. The legs come down like nice cycling shorts and the arms are about to my elbows. The material and construction are top notch. It was great finding a top quality suit for tall people have spent a lot of money sending suits back, this one is a keeper thanks Roka!

Thanks! This is on my list of three to five to buy. Figured if I just bought a few and tried them on, it would be the best approach.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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I can send you pics of the tri suit and the bibs.

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Any recs for a trisuit with no pockets and thin pad. I'm looking for a one piece for sprint and olympic distances. I've seen the Kiwamis but am trying to keep the cost under $200.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [newtridude] [ In reply to ]
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Kiwami WS1 is on sale on trisports right now for $210. If you are willing to wait I bet there is a decent chance for a deeper discount there soon.

You can find cheaper, but I have his suit and, honestly, for the little extra this suit is well worth it. Or go to Kiwami site and get LD suit for $60...very comfy although not as fast in the water.
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Re: 2017 aero tri suit thread [dangle] [ In reply to ]
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dangle wrote:
**Updated with prices) Ascent level (with sleeves and pockets) is $121 and the Summit is $151 pre-tax for a minimum order of 5. If you want rear pockets, then it comes with the thigh pockets. It's all or nothing. We are starting the design process for the Summit.

Ascent example

Summit example

I'm not associated with Pactimo, but wanted to note that they finally published pricing for their newest tri suits. You can get sleeves and pockets (not a fan of that thigh pocket, but it gets thrown on there if you want a rear pocket) for $151 for the Summit level or $121 for their Ascent level. We're getting started on the design process for the Summit stuff to have it ready by the spring. Their previous tri gear wasn't too great, but their recent Ascent and Summit bike gear is great. Really hoping for good things with the new Summit tri suit. The fit kits should be available in the next couple months.
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