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2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24
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We're on to year 11 back by popular demand. I am mainly cutting and pasting last year's thread to get things rolling

The last few years we have had 500+ athletes from all over the world. Invite your friends and training partners. The more the better. Thanks to Slowman for accommodating us and hosting this virtual training camp on their website at no cost !!!

On Dec 15th we'll start the 2016-17 edition of the 100 runs in 100 day challenge, commonly known as 100/100. The thing has evolved somewhat over the past few years, due to and contrary to popular demand. The basic unit that counts as a run is 30 minutes.

The goal of this entire challenge is to lay down a solid run base by doing volume through frequency. The goal of the challenge actually is not to randomly be doing a bunch of short runs, although some in the past may have chosen to. The goal really is to increase your overall mileage which will hopefully result in better performances next year as long as you don't go overboard and injury yourself. Frequency is the carrot to get you overall mileage, but don't end up using it to get injured!

The runs can be outdoors or on a treadmill, but it must be running (no water running, no elliptical trainer...). Walking does not count...there must be two feet off the ground at some point in every stride (the difference between race walking and running) and there must be forward motion so 30 minutes of jumping jacks will not count either :-) :-) :-).

DO'S AND DON'TS

  1. You can take days off
  2. You can do days with more than one run (doubles)
  3. You can and likely should take rest days
  4. You get no credit for going longer than 30 minute wrt number of runs, however it will help your distance totals. Over time, many of your runs will be in excess of 30 minutes.
  5. If you go fast, it will show up in your total distance over the challenge in less time and the speedsters get to beat the crap out of each other.
  6. You can go as slow as you want provided both feet leave the ground on every stride
  7. Listen to your body if you need to take a day off. Don't get too sucked into what the other geeks on the standings are doing (who am I kidding? Talking to a bunch a type A tri geeks)
  8. By all means, use the overall standing as a motivator to push you up a level, but don't put yourself in the injury/hurt locker in the middle of winter
  9. Don't sprint out of the gate in the first 3 weeks....easiest way to get injured...start slow....perhaps take your aggregate mileage over the last 3 years and divide that total by 156 to get a gauge for what your average weeks for the first 4-6 weeks should look like before you ramp up
  10. If you make it through 10 weeks (70 days), pour it on in the final month when your body and mind can take it.
WHAT COUNTS AS A DOUBLE RUN?

For a run to count as a double, it must be separated by at least 1 hour. I have to pick a duration to separate 2 runs and it can't be 1 minute or 5 minutes, and putting 1 hour in between means that I will allow you to count a run-swim-run, run-bike-run, run-wts-run, run-XC ski-run, run-McDonalds-run as 2 sessions as long as the thing in between lasts for at least 1 hour (be it 40K on the bike, or a session at the donut shop).

11 years ago _EH_, Jana and I put down 100 days in a row of running 30 min or more with ZERO rest days. Not really recommended. The last few years we have had approximately 50 or more hit 100 runs in 100 days, but that's really not for everyone (nor should it be).

WHAT ARE THE VARIOUS LEVELS

While some might go for 100 runs, the reality is that unless you are already running 4-6 hours per week, this is not a realistic goal. If you did over 2500K of running last year, you're probably good to go to attack the full 100 (assuming you have no injuries)

For most a realistic goal is to start at Bronze club pace (or less) and then see how things go.

  1. Platinum Club = 100 runs in 100 days (March 24th)
  2. Gold Club = 90 runs in 100 runs in days
  3. Silver Club = 80 runs in 100 runs in days
  4. Bronze = 70 runs in 100 runs in days
It is great training for anyone doing a spring marathon or an early season triathlon, and you'll be shocked by how quickly you accumulate mileage, all without getting injured...because the focus is keeping them short and aerobic. By all means feel free to run longer than 30 minutes, but the main goal here is to get you out the door, 5-7 times per week, especially given that the weather is generally shitty for riding in many parts of the Northern Hemisphere.

QUESTION ABOUT RUNS SHORTER THAN 30 MINUTES

The goal is to encourage people to run as much as possible. Sometimes, life gets in the way. We have lives outside sport.Something is better than nothing. So if you do 2 runs shorter than 30 minutes in one day (ex 20+15), you can count the total as 1 run, but beyond that, you can't keep adding up incremental amounts to count for additional runs. For example, a 50 minute run and 10 minute run in one day won't count as 2 runs and nor will 20+20+20. They will both count as one 60 minute run (you can add your short run amount to your large run amount to get full mileage credit).

So basically let's say you do a 15 minute run covering 3K. You can't enter this as a "complete run" for your "club status", however, if you do many of these over the winter, they all add up to more base, so what you CAN do is add these 15 minutes in your entry for your previous run...so if your previous run was 45 minutes, and 9K, just put it in as 60 minutes and 12K and take some partial credit for it.

However, we just added a fairly major change to this for 2015-16 to encourage people a bit more. What we will allow is twice per week have two days where 15 min counts provided you make up the time the NEXT day....read below:





New in 2015-16 was an allowance for 2x per week minimum run of 15 minutes which must be followed up by 45 run the next day. A 15 min run earlier in the day, followed by a 45 min run later in the day does not count for 2 runs in that day, it still counts as the usual 1 run of 60 minutes. The reason for this is that the minimum on 2 days per week of 15 min run is being instituted to assist people in not over doing mileage on days when perhaps a short jog or transition run off the bike or swim is all they should really be doing in the context of an overall triathlon program"
SIGN UP AND USING THE SLOWTWITCH.COM TRAINING LOG
1. Go to training.slowtwitch.com
2. Sign up for a training log account if you don't already have one
3. Then go to training.slowtwitch.com/challenges
4. Look for the 2016-17 100 runs/100 days challenge and sign up for it, or just click on the following and sign up: http://training.slowtwitch.com/challenge/frequency/249
5. Now start entering your runs in the slowtwitch log. Make sure you only enter runs =>30 minutes as one entity. If you have a 20+15 day, enter it as one workout of 35 minute or it will not get rolled into the results sheet
6. Please ensure that you log a distance along with the time. If you don't know the distance, please try to estimate...this will also get you finely tuned to your pace at various times/distances...great for racing
7. Your runs will automatically get entered into the challenge results sheet with everyone else
8. From the challenges home page, click on the link to go to the 100/100 challenge, which will allow you to view the results
9. Once click on this link you will end up at the results page. You can click on any of the column headers, and it will sort the sheet based on that category (frequency, time, distance, aerobic points.
10. Please note that you must be logged in to actually enter your data. You can't enter data without logging into your account (seems obvious...)

I'll update this post as other questions come up.

And as was the case in previous years, there is lots of tough love around here, but everyone means well. If you think I/we might be hard nosed, let me just say, that offline, I get beaten up by even more hard core guys accusing me of making the challenge too "soft". So the rules are the rules (we had a discussion thread about that every year) They've been refined over the past few years and love them or hate them, they kind of work and out of respect to previous years' finishers, let's stick with what works OK.

Please put any questions on this thread. Better to put them here than send me PM's or emails, because they may not be answered n real time if sent directly to me, but if you post on this thread there are a bunch of guys and girls who will likely answer questions for your immediately. It's like being in a big training camp with a bunch of veterans. You don't need to ask the organizers all the questions. There are a bunch of vets who probably can provide much better insights than I can.

FINALLY: GOOD LUCK, PLAY SMART, TAKE REST, COME OUT THE OTHER SIDE INJURY FREE AND READY TO HAVE A PB YEAR IN 2015.

On my front, most years I shoot for 85-100, but this year, suffering from some nerve/spine complication from a 2011 accident at IM Switzerland that are currently limiting my mobility (both walk and run), so I"ll probably try to swim pretty well every day and see where rehab takes me on shuffling around! But I am here with you virtually!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the clarity and putting this up again

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Awesome! Thanks for putting this up again Dev... Good luck with the therapy and we'll be watching those swim miles - GO FOR IT!!

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [katwoman] [ In reply to ]
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Kat, thanks. Bring your crew on to participate.

To this thread in general, today my availability will be limited as I am in the midst of negotiating a contract and hoping to get some training in too. I hope some of the vets can answer questions that emerge today. Best of luck with your training....I know there will already be someone who does 30 min run -60 min bike-30 min run-60 donut shop-30 min run today to log 3 runs. So may the madness commence. Any grievances on the rules, well the time for that expired (or you can do early grievances for 207-18 on the other thread). Over here, let's talk about the feats of strength.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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-2*F this AM in Chicago....wussed out and ran on the treadmill. Wink

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for setting this up again. 6th year for me and looking forward to it. I have a feeling this will help with motivation considering the deep freeze we are already experiencing in Southern Alberta. Woke up to a warmer day today at -22C!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Power13] [ In reply to ]
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Power13 wrote:
-2*F this AM in Chicago....wussed out and ran on the treadmill. Wink

Just get on a plane and go to Shenzhen and Taipei like last year...problem solved!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks, Dev. I'm in again. The challenge fits in nicely with the Pfitz 18/85+ plan starting this week. I'm signed up for B2B (the marathoning version).

Got up over 100 last year and the volume really paid off. Set new PRs in the marathon and 70.3 and ran down a Chattanooga spot. Hope to keep it going with another PR at Boston this year.

Looking forward to the motivation from this group!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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First run in the books. 40 minutes outside at -26.5C with a windchill of -37C. I hope I get a few warm days in between now and March.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Stupid challenge. I never run in the rain. But because of this challenge, I ran for an hour in the rain this morning. Needed the hour so I can do just 15 minutes
on the treadmill tomorrow.

So if I get this right, I would not put in 60 today and 15 tomorrow, I would wait until tomorrow, make sure I get my 15 minute run in,
then put in 37.5 for yesterday, and 37.5 for today, assuming it is tomorrow?

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [DeVinci13] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in Phoenix, AZ and we were cold, too. 50 degrees F for my 5:30 AM run. Brrrr..... :D

I've actually been looking forward to this for a while. Am just a runner again and I have some lofty goals for this next year. I've been running 45-55 mpw over the last few months and am expecting to bump it up to 60-70 (barring sicknesses and the holidays).

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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Wow! Phoenix was colder than San Diego this morning. 55° here when I got out there at 5:45, so singlet and shorts. Going to pay for it tomorrow as a storm is rolling in. I was going to take the day off, but now there's this damn challenge thing.

fartleker - I remember you from (I think) the 2013/2014 challenge. Fast half runner from what I recall! Weren't you in ABQ, though?
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [mstange22] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, I was in ABQ. We happily moved to Phoenix 3 years ago.

I was reasonably fast 3 years ago (1:12.59 for a half) but then stopped doing tris and training at all for about a year and a half. Have been purely running since April and want to go faster this upcoming spring.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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I think that's what I remember. Much faster than me! My best is 1:17:13 on a net-drop course last year, so I will never even sniff a 1:15, let alone a 1:12 (or better)! I'm 46 and seem to do better at the marathon where not slowing down is at more of a premium than raw LT speed.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [mstange22] [ In reply to ]
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1:17 is still moving and puts you at the pointy edge of the stick. That's solid!

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [mstange22] [ In reply to ]
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In again for this year although have never done particularly well on the challenge. I'm confident for this attempt :)

I have a question though about the rules. Does a run not count towards the total if there is a small walking element? At what point do you draw the line for some of those who may do a run:walk long run or a tempo effort with a min of walk and then some active recovery jog between sets?

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [jac2689] [ In reply to ]
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I would think that you only get credit for the run portion, so if you mix in 3 or 4 minutes of walking, you would need to go 33-34 minutes to log a 30-min run.

Oh, and Dev - the link on the OP takes us to last year's challenge.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [mstange22] [ In reply to ]
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mstange22 wrote:
I would think that you only get credit for the run portion, so if you mix in 3 or 4 minutes of walking, you would need to go 33-34 minutes to log a 30-min run.

I wondered that but thought I'd clarify as in the rules it is not 100% clear.

Anyway, I'm counting my run today until I hear otherwise and so far am 1/1 and 100%.....

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Just signed up this morning. This should be great for me to get back to my running roots. Before I got into triathlon a few years ago, and easy run for me was below 8 minutes per regardless of distance. I've started to creep almost towards 10 minutes per mile this summer, with too much focus on the bike.

Anyways, thanks for organizing this and first run is in the books! Don't think I'll be pushing 100 runs myself, but I'll probably be able to get in about 5 30+ minute runs a week, so something along those lines will be my goal while also keeping up with the Guppy Challenge.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Power13 wrote:
-2*F this AM in Chicago....wussed out and ran on the treadmill. Wink


Just get on a plane and go to Shenzhen and Taipei like last year...problem solved!

Right? Unfortunately, my December Asia trip this year was the week after Thanksgiving, so no warm weather runs anytime soon for me. I'll hit Taipei again on January 10, so I'll post pics again form there.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I still cannot get the workout page to function. When I click on my user name, I get "Page Not Found"

I cannot change my profile at all; location, sex, age, etc.

I uploaded a TCX file but it does not show speed, distance, etc. I have tried in Chrome and IE. Any suggestions?

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Callin'] [ In reply to ]
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I just type in the workout info manually. Change it from the default swim, etc. Easy enough to copy a few numbers from Garmin Connect. Not sure if that helps if you're not even able to get to that screen.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Day 1 in the books with a 30 min shuffle in -28c . Felt surprisingly good considering it's my first run in ~ 4 months.
This is my 5 th or 6th 100/100 always with good intentions but never much to show for it. Think highest I have gone is 65/100.
Trying something new. Gonna break this into 5 parts with a 18/20 goal for each fifth for goal of 90. I'll check back in 20 days ...
Happy running
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Callin'] [ In reply to ]
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I know IE won't work but Chrome works for me.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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h2ofun wrote:
Stupid challenge. I never run in the rain. But because of this challenge, I ran for an hour in the rain this morning. Needed the hour so I can do just 15 minutes
on the treadmill tomorrow.

So if I get this right, I would not put in 60 today and 15 tomorrow, I would wait until tomorrow, make sure I get my 15 minute run in,
then put in 37.5 for yesterday, and 37.5 for today, assuming it is tomorrow?
You didn't need the hour. 45 + 15 works. The rules say that it should be the 15 min run followed by the 45 min run the next day, but I guess it really doesn't matter.

I would just log it as 45 for today and 30 for tomorrow. Or just run 30 minutes tomorrow.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [RayP] [ In reply to ]
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Just going to ask this here, instead of creating a thread. When I'm logged into Garmin Connect and go to CALENDAR, and then do the weekly or month view it will should each day.... but it only shows the weekly totals to the right. Is there a way to get it to populate what you did each day in its respective square on the calendar? Maybe I'm just blind, but I don't see anything to click to enable to view it that way and/or weekly totals.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [mstange22] [ In reply to ]
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mstange22 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Stupid challenge. I never run in the rain. But because of this challenge, I ran for an hour in the rain this morning. Needed the hour so I can do just 15 minutes
on the treadmill tomorrow.

So if I get this right, I would not put in 60 today and 15 tomorrow, I would wait until tomorrow, make sure I get my 15 minute run in,
then put in 37.5 for yesterday, and 37.5 for today, assuming it is tomorrow?

You didn't need the hour. 45 + 15 works. The rules say that it should be the 15 min run followed by the 45 min run the next day, but I guess it really doesn't matter.

I would just log it as 45 for today and 30 for tomorrow. Or just run 30 minutes tomorrow.

Seems to me does not matter the order. 2 times a work you can span 4 days.
Since I try to run long 3 days a week, I plan to span 2 days a week so I just do 2 15 minute brick days. Will just have to do one 30 minute treadmill day for the 7th, or a quickie outside

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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h2ofun wrote:
mstange22 wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Stupid challenge. I never run in the rain. But because of this challenge, I ran for an hour in the rain this morning. Needed the hour so I can do just 15 minutes
on the treadmill tomorrow.

So if I get this right, I would not put in 60 today and 15 tomorrow, I would wait until tomorrow, make sure I get my 15 minute run in,
then put in 37.5 for yesterday, and 37.5 for today, assuming it is tomorrow?

You didn't need the hour. 45 + 15 works. The rules say that it should be the 15 min run followed by the 45 min run the next day, but I guess it really doesn't matter.

I would just log it as 45 for today and 30 for tomorrow. Or just run 30 minutes tomorrow.


Seems to me does not matter the order. 2 times a work you can span 4 days.
Since I try to run long 3 days a week, I plan to span 2 days a week so I just do 2 15 minute brick days. Will just have to do one 30 minute treadmill day for the 7th, or a quickie outside

Dev's rules say: "What we will allow is twice per week have two days where 15 min counts provided you make up the time the NEXT day

It says NEXT in caps so it seems like the order does matter. You have to run at least 45 minutes the day after the 15.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Way to start this challenge on a crazy first winter deep freeze day Dev!! At -25 degree (with wind chill) in the National Capital Region, I felt like an ice cube after my run.

Winning aside, thanks for doing this! Hope recovery is going well.

Cheers!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for getting us going Dev. I logged two today before the rain his Los Angeles. It's coming down pretty steady now and I'm STOKED to run in the rain tomorrow morning. I'm on for year six or seven of Platinum and excited!!!

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [ianpeace] [ In reply to ]
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I'll make a commitment to this thread to at least get on the treadmill daily and walk/shuffle on a flat to 15% incline as part of my rehab for 10-15 min. Today I covered 3K over 22 minutes. Does not count for the challenge, but that's fine. This is decent progress.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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After 2 seasons of just watching the board, I'm in for the challenge this year!

Of course, right off the bat, I'm feeling behind because I: 1) moved from sea level to 5300 ft 2 weeks ago, 2) haven't run since my last race 6 weeks ago, and 3) went to happy hour tonight to get to know my colleagues from at my new job, then tried to run right after. As a result, today's 31 min were quite a slog. But I made it, and look forward to seeing what the next 99 days do for all of us!

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Between the Guppy and this challenge, I have my hands full. Please don't start a Bike challenge.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [guscrown] [ In reply to ]
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I feel the same..
Signed up a short while ago with the intend of joining the 100/100 challenge, saw the guppy challenge as well and couldn't resist..

Got my first run in yesterday, second will be this afternoon after work.. I'm just happy it's not as cold here, not even freezing!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [guscrown] [ In reply to ]
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Hmmm... How about "100 days of Sufferlandria" starting January 1? :)

It's been a few years since I've done the 100/100, so thank you to Dev and the rest of the ST community for doing and supporting this.

I'm about 8 weeks post bike accident/severe concussion and still struggling with symptoms, but will try to do what I can. In the last two weeks, I've only done a few light runs, mostly walk/jog interval workouts no more than 20 minutes total, usually mixed with some functional movement work. Logged an easy straight 30 minute run on the treadmill last night to start the challenge off. Seemed to do alright so will see what today brings and if another one can happen tonight.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [guscrown] [ In reply to ]
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guscrown wrote:
Between the Guppy and this challenge, I have my hands full. Please don't start a Bike challenge.

I think H2Ofun is advocating the "lose 1 lbs per week" challenge. 100/100 is technically a feeder challenge to that one so you are kind of doing both at the same time". It might help with the kilos part of your biking watts per kilo. I can't say it will help with watts but you never know if you do a ton of steep running hill work, I have found my climbing wattage goes up (N=1 anecdotal, don't believe a word I say as it might be placebo self confirmation bias to convince me that I am not losing bike mileage on long business trips and just doing hills on the run to replace riding)..
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
guscrown wrote:
Between the Guppy and this challenge, I have my hands full. Please don't start a Bike challenge.


I think H2Ofun is advocating the "lose 1 lbs per week" challenge. 100/100 is technically a feeder challenge to that one so you are kind of doing both at the same time". It might help with the kilos part of your biking watts per kilo. I can't say it will help with watts but you never know if you do a ton of steep running hill work, I have found my climbing wattage goes up (N=1 anecdotal, don't believe a word I say as it might be placebo self confirmation bias to convince me that I am not losing bike mileage on long business trips and just doing hills on the run to replace riding)..

For weight lose, folks just need to look in the mirror and decide if they are real serious about racing, and if so a doughnut around the waist does not cut it.

Weight loose should be, IMO, our number 1 focus for health, let alone if one wants to be the best athlete one can be.

So far I am staying about 3 lbs below race weight during these holidays, and I am eating all the cookies and ice cream I want. Keeping up the exercise sure helps.
Also not sitting most of the day and walking up and down stairs in my house all day long helps.

Now, too bad there is not a bike challenge. Since I ride 7 days a week on the trainers for 90 minutes, would be easy. :)

Just did my first ever 30 minute treadmill run. Boy is that boring, and a real test mentally. But, sure warmer and drier than outside.

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.tcx uploads aren't working for me either.

bummer
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I'm also in after watching from the sidelines for the last few years. Have worked my way up to 5 days/wk running and will hopefully get in some weeks of 6 runs (trying the famed BarryP method) starting in Jan, so I'm aiming for the Silver level. We'll see, will be happy at this point just to keep consistency and stay mostly injury-free.

Happy running!
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I'm both too. The guppy challenge won't be an issue since I've been swimming a decent amount. The run challenge will really be a challenge since I've been dealing with Plantar Fasciitis symptoms for the last few months.
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Dev, that's what the 100/100 Challenge can be for anyone. Yes, we have rules, I like the one's you've set. But for your current situation or for those just getting going with running the inspiration of the Challenge can still be there no matter how you follow and get drawn along.

Just a side note...I want to celebrate that fact that I'm on the top of the board right now at this very moment. I'm gonna drink that in 'cuz I KNOW it won't last.

Ian
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I got another 22 min walk-shuffle on the treadmill at average 7 min per K, incline ranging from 0 to 15 percent. It won't count for the challenge but I'll have several outings that count. Tomorrow I will try to head out with snowshoes with poles which I think will actually be easier than shuffling on the treadmill due to the softness of the snow. The main thing is getting out on my feet and making forward progress. I agree it can be everything to everyone whether i crank off 100 days in a row 1000K, or barely shuffle 1-3 K per day.
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Dev, how is it possible we have folks with 4 activities listed, when we are only into our 3rd day?

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So, help me out. How do you have 4 activities listed when we are only into our 3rd day? And for today, where do you live you already have your run in?

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I am reading the rules and do not understand how some are recording.

I see many with 3 or 4 runs listed in 2 days of time. I assumed that when I read the frequency listing, it would show how many days ones has run
compared to when we started, and for a maximum of 100 at the end not how many per day.

But if one can record doubles for frequency, this implies one could run only 50 days, 2 per day, record 2 per each of those 50 days, and it would look
like the person did 100.

So, am I missing something?

The goal of this I thought was frequency, so do double stuff seems to make no sense other than recording as a single day with greater volume, not more "days"
as many have listed now.

Recording 2 in a day and having it show up as if one has run more days totally takes the fun at looking at folks results away.

Again, am I missing something?

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You can run 2x or more per day as long as there is 1 hour in between runs. In theory the maximum number of runs you could do in a single day is 16 runs. It's not the intent of the challenge but within the rules you have the option to do that.
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I am reading the rules

Apparently not. Read the part about double runs. It's 100 runs/100 days and a "run" has been well defined.
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devashish_paul wrote:
You can run 2x or more per day as long as there is 1 hour in between runs. In theory the maximum number of runs you could do in a single day is 16 runs. It's not the intent of the challenge but within the rules you have the option to do that.

Dev, you missed the question.

Frequency is what I thought this challenge was. Frequency is NOT the number of runs in 100 days. Frequency is how many days of running in 100 you do.
Should not matter if you 1 or 100 runs in a day, it is max one day for a run. If you want to track number if runs, then this whole challenge is not setup correctly.

So if you tell me you can only record a max of 2 runs per day, then great, I can do 2 15 minute runs per day with an hour in between and get 200.

So, do you get the question?

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I am reading the rules

Apparently not. Read the part about double runs. It's 100 runs/100 days and a "run" has been well defined.

Not that way I read.

If says, as example, if you run 15 on day, and 45 the next, you record 30 for each day.

Now, if one can record 2 runs a day with an hour apart, great, I just totally change my process. Rather than seeing if I can run 100 times for 100 days in a row
I now only need to run 50 days, 2 times per each of these days for 15 minutes to get 100, great, just a totally different challenge, and so so much easier than
what I thought a 100/100 was. I like easier stuff.

But based on this, what happens if someone gets over 100? I just thought 100 was the max possible, which if how you read the rules is correct, is not.

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Okay, I just reread the "rules" again. I guess this challenge is a lot easier than I thought. So, my suggestion then is you change the column that says frequency
to number of runs. If it is labeled that way, then I understand the challenge, which would not be frequency, as you have currently listed.

I guess the next challenge is can one get the 100 runs in by running the first 50 days? Technically, yep.

So, I just change my strategy now and no longer worry about having to get a 30 minute run in.

This challenge is now so so much easier than I thought it was going to be.

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schroeder wrote:
I am reading the rules

Apparently not. Read the part about double runs. It's 100 runs/100 days and a "run" has been well defined.

I just read the rules again and it looks like I blew it. Now, if the log gets the column changed from frequency to number, then the log
matches the challenge, IMO.

Great, this challenge is SO much easier, and I now can totally change my tactics.

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I now only need to run 50 days, 2 times per each of these days for 15 minutes to get 100, great, just a totally different challenge, and so so much easier than
what I thought a 100/100 was. I like easier stuff.

this is incorrect. 2x 15minutes runs in a day is counted as one run. If you want to get 2 runs in a day they must be 2 x 30mins with at least an hour in between.
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marcag wrote:
h2ofun wrote:

I now only need to run 50 days, 2 times per each of these days for 15 minutes to get 100, great, just a totally different challenge, and so so much easier than
what I thought a 100/100 was. I like easier stuff.


this is incorrect. 2x 15minutes runs in a day is counted as one run. If you want to get 2 runs in a day they must be 2 x 30mins with at least an hour in between.


Okay, you are correct. I could do a 15 minute, wait an hour, then run 45 minutes and get 2 runs in a day?

Now, maybe that is wrong also.

If I do the above, for 60 minutes in 2 days, I get to count this as 30 per day, right?

So the only way to get credit for 2 in a day is to run at least twice, each being a minimum of 30 minutes? So the least one could run to get credit for two in a day is an hour?

Okay, I get it. Still makes 100 run in 100 days with these rules a lot easier that frequency of 100 run days in 100 days. My mistake.

Glad I did my 30 minutes already this morning on the treadmill in my warm man cave. I am now going out for a 50 mile bike ride in 30 degree weather. No bike trainer today.

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h2ofun wrote:
marcag wrote:
h2ofun wrote:

I now only need to run 50 days, 2 times per each of these days for 15 minutes to get 100, great, just a totally different challenge, and so so much easier than
what I thought a 100/100 was. I like easier stuff.


this is incorrect. 2x 15minutes runs in a day is counted as one run. If you want to get 2 runs in a day they must be 2 x 30mins with at least an hour in between.


Okay, you are correct. I could do a 15 minute, wait an hour, then run 45 minutes and get 2 runs in a day?

I do not believe so. There is a rule that you could do 15 today, 45 tomorrow, twice a week. But if they are done in the same day that is one 60min run.

Dev can confirm.
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marcag wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
marcag wrote:
h2ofun wrote:

I now only need to run 50 days, 2 times per each of these days for 15 minutes to get 100, great, just a totally different challenge, and so so much easier than
what I thought a 100/100 was. I like easier stuff.


this is incorrect. 2x 15minutes runs in a day is counted as one run. If you want to get 2 runs in a day they must be 2 x 30mins with at least an hour in between.


Okay, you are correct. I could do a 15 minute, wait an hour, then run 45 minutes and get 2 runs in a day?


I do not believe so. There is a rule that you could do 15 today, 45 tomorrow, twice a week. But if they are done in the same day that is one 60min run.

Dev can confirm.

I updated my post before you saw the mod since I had thought I was wrong.

But, knowing the rules of this event better now, I can change my tactics. Since I am going to be doing Duathlons early in the season, I might try this change of training.
First I could run 30 minutes on the treadmill. Then 90 minutes on the bike trainer. Then go outside and run my hill route, but rather than do my normal 90 minutes,
I could just maybe do 60 minutes, and still only get my normal 90 minutes run in for a day. Will see how I feel. But this would give me 2 runs in a day and buffer me for
days I might not want to run. So much easier.

Sorry for the confusion. That frequency column in the log book just got my confused.

Time to change for the cold bike ride.

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marcag wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
marcag wrote:
h2ofun wrote:

I now only need to run 50 days, 2 times per each of these days for 15 minutes to get 100, great, just a totally different challenge, and so so much easier than
what I thought a 100/100 was. I like easier stuff.


this is incorrect. 2x 15minutes runs in a day is counted as one run. If you want to get 2 runs in a day they must be 2 x 30mins with at least an hour in between.


Okay, you are correct. I could do a 15 minute, wait an hour, then run 45 minutes and get 2 runs in a day?


I do not believe so. There is a rule that you could do 15 today, 45 tomorrow, twice a week. But if they are done in the same day that is one 60min run.

Dev can confirm.

Marcag is correct. The "wussification" was to get people out on a day when they would not have otherwise run. It's not a loophole that gives people credit for multiple runs on a day when they have the physical means to do a longer run. For example 16x29.59 runs separated each by 60 minutes will just count as a massive 7:59.44 run. Not 8 runs of 59.58. I'm being extreme to illustrate the example. The wussification was there to get people out for a quick transition run when that would not hurt them in terms of injuries etc. It's not there to be used if you can already run longer on a given day. If you can do large volume on a given day, just go do it.
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devashish_paul wrote:
marcag wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
marcag wrote:
h2ofun wrote:

I now only need to run 50 days, 2 times per each of these days for 15 minutes to get 100, great, just a totally different challenge, and so so much easier than
what I thought a 100/100 was. I like easier stuff.


this is incorrect. 2x 15minutes runs in a day is counted as one run. If you want to get 2 runs in a day they must be 2 x 30mins with at least an hour in between.


Okay, you are correct. I could do a 15 minute, wait an hour, then run 45 minutes and get 2 runs in a day?


I do not believe so. There is a rule that you could do 15 today, 45 tomorrow, twice a week. But if they are done in the same day that is one 60min run.

Dev can confirm.


Marcag is correct. The "wussification" was to get people out on a day when they would not have otherwise run. It's not a loophole that gives people credit for multiple runs on a day when they have the physical means to do a longer run. For example 16x29.59 runs separated each by 60 minutes will just count as a massive 7:59.44 run. Not 8 runs of 59.58. I'm being extreme to illustrate the example. The wussification was there to get people out for a quick transition run when that would not hurt them in terms of injuries etc. It's not there to be used if you can already run longer on a given day. If you can do large volume on a given day, just go do it.

Thanks :)

But, since the rules are the rules, I will consider changing to put in my Duathlon training focus, which would be a run bike run day. May try that today to see how I feel after my 30 minute run this morning, now going on a cold 50 mile bike. Mentally, will see when I get home can I do another 30 minute treadmill run for 2 runs today. :)

Thanks again. Sorry I was a little slow on understanding the "wussification" aspect, but I like easier stuff. :)

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Hi Dev

Just to add to the confusion I think the frequency refers to 30 minute runs ?

I did a 2.38 minute warmup, 21 minute parkrun then a 13.12 jog to top this up over 30 minutes but this has been logged as 3 runs and a total of 5 which is wrong.

Good luck with your rehab
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cowboy7 wrote:
Hi Dev

Just to add to the confusion I think the frequency refers to 30 minute runs ?

I did a 2.38 minute warmup, 21 minute parkrun then a 13.12 jog to top this up over 30 minutes but this has been logged as 3 runs and a total of 5 which is wrong.

Good luck with your rehab

You need to enter this as one run which was 2:38+21:00+13:12. So enter a single run that is 36:50 in duration
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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OK just replying to the first 100/100 vet I could find scrolling from the bottom. So Marcag gets to decide!!!!

So here in Ottawa Canada we had a decent snowstorm. The golf course that is 100m from my front door is covered with knee deep snow. I rode the computrainer for 80 min and then was going to shuffle/walk on the treadmill and in my equipment room, my snowshoes were jumping out at me.....they were saying, "come on, let's get outside, screw the treadmill...if you can walk and shuffle on the treadmill, let's go". So I put on my zillion layers of clothing to get out in minus 12C (I am wussified from 14 months of not being exposed to training in cold) and went out. Shoved my feet into the snowshoes and started walking in the snow. After getting through around 100m I turned and walked back and now that the snow was packed down, decided to try a slow jog. It was better than on "hard land" and I was able to jog "OK". Then for the first half hour, I alternated jogging and walking (packing down snow....can't jog in that). Then I got carried away and for the second half hour it was more like 2/3 "running", 1/3 running. I even got all carried away and did some of the steeper hills and had fun not thinking about "rehab" just playing in the snow like a 51 year old kid.

I am almost certain that I was actually running with snowshoes on in excess of 30 minutes (I am guessing 15 min in the first half hour and 20 min in the second half hour). So I am submitting this to the ST twitch hunting mobs before risking entering it formally as I don't have a garmin file to prove the actual running amount (and frankly you would not be able tell since snow shoe running is almost as slow as a fast walk anyway) and I don't have sportstats "timing" for this event, and I don't have an Finisherpix photos of me passing the photographer "on the course".

So what does the 100/100 twitch hunt team say. Is this story submit - able in the 100/100 or is it DQ'd on account of no proof of the actual amount of running? I am thinking of entering this in the ST log as a 35 min run and a 25 min walk (I almost never enter walking as a workout but since my cardio was probably working at 75% FTP just walking I better enter it to properly see the overall weekly hours).

In any case, good to be exercising outdoors on my feet!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev,
My Garmin Communicator Plugin is not working, nor is my .tcx file download.

Any ideas? I prefer not to manually enter 100 days of runs.

Thanks.
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OK thanks
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devashish_paul wrote:
OK just replying to the first 100/100 vet I could find scrolling from the bottom. So Marcag gets to decide!!!!

So here in Ottawa Canada we had a decent snowstorm. The golf course that is 100m from my front door is covered with knee deep snow. I rode the computrainer for 80 min and then was going to shuffle/walk on the treadmill and in my equipment room, my snowshoes were jumping out at me.....they were saying, "come on, let's get outside, screw the treadmill...if you can walk and shuffle on the treadmill, let's go". So I put on my zillion layers of clothing to get out in minus 12C (I am wussified from 14 months of not being exposed to training in cold) and went out. Shoved my feet into the snowshoes and started walking in the snow. After getting through around 100m I turned and walked back and now that the snow was packed down, decided to try a slow jog. It was better than on "hard land" and I was able to jog "OK". Then for the first half hour, I alternated jogging and walking (packing down snow....can't jog in that). Then I got carried away and for the second half hour it was more like 2/3 "running", 1/3 running. I even got all carried away and did some of the steeper hills and had fun not thinking about "rehab" just playing in the snow like a 51 year old kid.

I am almost certain that I was actually running with snowshoes on in excess of 30 minutes (I am guessing 15 min in the first half hour and 20 min in the second half hour). So I am submitting this to the ST twitch hunting mobs before risking entering it formally as I don't have a garmin file to prove the actual running amount (and frankly you would not be able tell since snow shoe running is almost as slow as a fast walk anyway) and I don't have sportstats "timing" for this event, and I don't have an Finisherpix photos of me passing the photographer "on the course".

So what does the 100/100 twitch hunt team say. Is this story submit - able in the 100/100 or is it DQ'd on account of no proof of the actual amount of running? I am thinking of entering this in the ST log as a 35 min run and a 25 min walk (I almost never enter walking as a workout but since my cardio was probably working at 75% FTP just walking I better enter it to properly see the overall weekly hours).

In any case, good to be exercising outdoors on my feet!

Rules say : "both feet leave the ground on every stride". If so, I'd say it's good.
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My understanding is that if you do two 30 minute runs in one day, as long as they are separated by at least an hour, you can enter them as two separate runs--not one one hour run.
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Did a double today so I wouldn't have to run in the rain predicted for tomorrow. Now at #13 in the challenge. NEVER. HAPPEN. AGAIN.

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So, help me out. How do you have 4 activities listed when we are only into our 3rd day? And for today, where do you live you already have your run in?


Dave,

It looks like - from the posts since you asked - that this is sorted but I wanted to respond none the less. I live ~6 hrs south of you on the west side of Los Angeles. I too feel that frequency in training is a blessing and that's what makes the Challenge so valuable. I've got some travel/work coming up that are super taxing. In January I'm leading a full day for a USAT Level 1 coaching cert and then a full day, the next for a Youth and Junior Draft Legal certification in San Francisco and I won't be able to run for 2 days in there. Also, right now, here in LA, it's just too perfect: work is light, it rained, it's cold/windy/clear (read: less smog) so I wanted to double up now so I can be a bit ahead of the game with what I know will disrupt my frequency in the 97 days that lay ahead.

So, anyway, I've doubled up each day of the 3 days so far and now I'll only run once a day for the 6-7 as I can't let the enthusiasm I have for the Challenge overcome me. I'm on target for ~36mi this week and I don't want to exceed that in week one -that would my heaviest week in several months.

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So, help me out. How do you have 4 activities listed when we are only into our 3rd day? And for today, where do you live you already have your run in?


Dave,

It looks like - from the posts since you asked - that this is sorted but I wanted to respond none the less. I live ~6 hrs south of you on the west side of Los Angeles. I too feel that frequency in training is a blessing and that's what makes the Challenge so valuable. I've got some travel/work coming up that are super taxing. In January I'm leading a full day for a USAT Level 1 coaching cert and then a full day, the next for a Youth and Junior Draft Legal certification in San Francisco and I won't be able to run for 2 days in there. Also, right now, here in LA, it's just too perfect: work is light, it rained, it's cold/windy/clear (read: less smog) so I wanted to double up now so I can be a bit ahead of the game with what I know will disrupt my frequency in the 97 days that lay ahead.

So, anyway, I've doubled up each day of the 3 days so far and now I'll only run once a day for the 6-7 as I can't let the enthusiasm I have for the Challenge overcome me. I'm on target for ~36mi this week and I don't want to exceed that in week one -that would my heaviest week in several months.

Ian

Just my mistake when I saw frequency in the log column, rather than number of runs. I have not looked yet or heard from Dev should be changed to number of run days.

I just needed to understand the rules. So much easier the way it is presented. I was going to do two treadmill runs today, but after a 30 minute in the morning, and then a 3.5 hour bike out in the cold, Nah, will have to try that in the future.

Very smart to bag some buffer days, which I might try also.

Thanks everyone for the clarifications.

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aargh, i am already starting this off with forced rest days. it has been snowing there and everything is covered in a layer of ice. even walking the dog is hazardous and is more like a skating expedition filled with prayers to the staying upright gods.
oh well. a few more days and then it will be slush.
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Dev, question for you. Does the inputs get checked so that no more than 2 30 plus minute runs count for a day?
I just looked at some of the folks with 6 runs, and at least one person has 3 runs down on a day, counting against their 6, which I believe is not part of the rules to get more than 2 runs counted per day?

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Dev, question for you. Does the inputs get checked so that no more than 2 30 plus minute runs count for a day?
I just looked at some of the folks with 6 runs, and at least one person has 3 runs down on a day, counting against their 6, which I believe is not part of the rules to get more than 2 runs counted per day?

You can do up to 16 runs if you want in a day. Min run is 30 minutes and you have to wait 60 min between runs, so that gives you a chance to do 16 runs in 24 hours if you want.
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Dev, question for you. Does the inputs get checked so that no more than 2 30 plus minute runs count for a day?
I just looked at some of the folks with 6 runs, and at least one person has 3 runs down on a day, counting against their 6, which I believe is not part of the rules to get more than 2 runs counted per day?


You can do up to 16 runs if you want in a day. Min run is 30 minutes and you have to wait 60 min between runs, so that gives you a chance to do 16 runs in 24 hours if you want.

Man, I guess I just keep missing the corner cases. Seems this stuff misses the intent, but that is just me.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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You guys are getting too carried away with the "rules". Just get out and run.
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You guys are getting too carried away with the "rules". Just get out and run.

:)

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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Hey guys, let me explain how this particular rule came about so you have some context:

  • 2006-07, three of us ran every day for 100 days, 30 minimum, no days off, some doubles, but we actually did more than 100 runs in 100 days. It was fun, but it was stupid in the sense that it was kind of pointless to run 100 days straight from a training angle. Sure, as a "feat of strength" or "mental perseverance" it was cool but that's it
  • 2nd year we decided that the overall goal of a 100 day run focus was good, and the main idea was to use frequency to get to more mileage, so it would be worthwhile to have days off, but it was kind of cool to shoot for 100 runs in 100 days (vs 100 days of running)
  • To do the above we inserted the concept of double run days for the challenge (many of us do that anyway as part of normal training)
  • So once we added the concept of doubles or triples or quads, we needed to define what separated a run. It did not seem right, for example to count a 100 minute sessions with two 5 minute breaks at 30 minutes and again at 65 minutes as "three runs" because in effect, this was really "one run".
  • We discussed what a good separation time was. We decided that 30 min run + 60 min ride + 30 min run really counts as "two runs". Or a 30 min run to the pool, 45 min swim+15 changing overhead + 30 min run commute back home really felt like distinct runs
  • So we decided that the interval that seemed right was 60 minutes. It's long enough that you're not just going to sit around between runs just for the sake of entering two runs on the spreadsheet, when in reality you could just knock of a single 60 min run and move on with life. But 60 minutes is enough to insert another good quality workout

So that's why we have a 60 min separation between workouts. On the surface it may seem "arbitrary" but it was fairly well thought out with a lot of back and forth discussion before we converged on the "gap" interval. I believe this works quite well. Now you could sit in the donut shop in between run and surf ST or read the New York times. That's your choice. I had one friend run 30 minutes, then skate for 60 minutes on our local canal, and then run 30 minutes to a New Year's party on Dec 31st and then on Jan 1, after midnight at 1 am, he ran home. He got three runs in and some speed skating around some partying. He may have otherwise only gone for skating session.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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How about we have a rule next year that 1 run recorded = 1 clarification or complaint post about the rules of the challenge? Just a thought.

I'm loving the challenge again this year Dev, thank you for doing again. No one wins the challenge, we all just get a little bit fitter for next year!
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devashish_paul wrote:
Hey guys, let me explain how this particular rule came about so you have some context:

  • 2006-07, three of us ran every day for 100 days, 30 minimum, no days off, some doubles, but we actually did more than 100 runs in 100 days. It was fun, but it was stupid in the sense that it was kind of pointless to run 100 days straight from a training angle. Sure, as a "feat of strength" or "mental perseverance" it was cool but that's it
  • 2nd year we decided that the overall goal of a 100 day run focus was good, and the main idea was to use frequency to get to more mileage, so it would be worthwhile to have days off, but it was kind of cool to shoot for 100 runs in 100 days (vs 100 days of running)
  • To do the above we inserted the concept of double run days for the challenge (many of us do that anyway as part of normal training)
  • So once we added the concept of doubles or triples or quads, we needed to define what separated a run. It did not seem right, for example to count a 100 minute sessions with two 5 minute breaks at 30 minutes and again at 65 minutes as "three runs" because in effect, this was really "one run".
  • We discussed what a good separation time was. We decided that 30 min run + 60 min ride + 30 min run really counts as "two runs". Or a 30 min run to the pool, 45 min swim+15 changing overhead + 30 min run commute back home really felt like distinct runs
  • So we decided that the interval that seemed right was 60 minutes. It's long enough that you're not just going to sit around between runs just for the sake of entering two runs on the spreadsheet, when in reality you could just knock of a single 60 min run and move on with life. But 60 minutes is enough to insert another good quality workout

So that's why we have a 60 min separation between workouts. On the surface it may seem "arbitrary" but it was fairly well thought out with a lot of back and forth discussion before we converged on the "gap" interval. I believe this works quite well. Now you could sit in the donut shop in between run and surf ST or read the New York times. That's your choice. I had one friend run 30 minutes, then skate for 60 minutes on our local canal, and then run 30 minutes to a New Year's party on Dec 31st and then on Jan 1, after midnight at 1 am, he ran home. He got three runs in and some speed skating around some partying. He may have otherwise only gone for skating session.

Thanks. No question what you have for the rules have thought.

Since new, just love asking the why questions, as us engineers love to do. :) I continue to understand it drives non engineers nuts. :)

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Why would you say that it is better to do some doubles and some non-days rather than just a single run every day?
Is there a large benefit to having that one day off and making up for it with a double day rather than having a consistent run each day?
Would this change depending on your training goals?
For myself I had planned to just run each day and then make up any missing days as and when they were required but if the consensus is that you should do double to then allow a day off I might consider changing my approach.

Thanks.
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Why would you say that it is better to do some doubles and some non-days rather than just a single run every day?
Is there a large benefit to having that one day off and making up for it with a double day rather than having a consistent run each day?
Would this change depending on your training goals?
For myself I had planned to just run each day and then make up any missing days as and when they were required but if the consensus is that you should do double to then allow a day off I might consider changing my approach.

Thanks.
Coops

To answer your question, almost no program has athletes running every day unless you live in Iten Kenya and run around 150-200 mile per week....that is a different game. In general on 100/100 we are talking about athletes doing <<< than 40 miles per week (70K per week is 10K per day which is 1000K over the challenge). Now that we have established that most of the runners in the challenge are relatively low volume runners (in the context of running), it is probably better to take a rest day here and there and plan those in.

However, part of the attraction of the 100/100 is to indeed get to 100 (if you can and have the physical means). This is why we decided that it would make sense to allow you all to break up another day that would be 60+ min running ANYWAY into two runs. Examples I gave were the duathlon workout or run commute to the pool.

I personally THINK that is better than running every day. Furthermore the 2015-16 wussification rule was added to make the 100/100 embraceable by more programs allowing for 15 minutes and 45 minute runs on attached days to count for 2x30....just to get people out on the low volume day without messing up their training programs.

At the end of the day, some modifications were met to keep the spirit of running 100 days in row to running 100 times and just getting you all out and running as often as possible, while hopefully minimizing any injury risk. I feel it is a fine balance between keeping you all engaged and losing people due to burn out or injuries. Days off are good, low volume days are good. For more advanced runners 30 min is a low volume day. For some of you it is not. So use the "rules" to your advantage.
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jac2689 wrote:
Why would you say that it is better to do some doubles and some non-days rather than just a single run every day?
Is there a large benefit to having that one day off and making up for it with a double day rather than having a consistent run each day?
Would this change depending on your training goals?
For myself I had planned to just run each day and then make up any missing days as and when they were required but if the consensus is that you should do double to then allow a day off I might consider changing my approach.

Thanks.
Coops


To answer your question, almost no program has athletes running every day unless you live in Iten Kenya and run around 150-200 mile per week....that is a different game. In general on 100/100 we are talking about athletes doing <<< than 40 miles per week (70K per week is 10K per day which is 1000K over the challenge). Now that we have established that most of the runners in the challenge are relatively low volume runners (in the context of running), it is probably better to take a rest day here and there and plan those in.

However, part of the attraction of the 100/100 is to indeed get to 100 (if you can and have the physical means). This is why we decided that it would make sense to allow you all to break up another day that would be 60+ min running ANYWAY into two runs. Examples I gave were the duathlon workout or run commute to the pool.

I personally THINK that is better than running every day. Furthermore the 2015-16 wussification rule was added to make the 100/100 embraceable by more programs allowing for 15 minutes and 45 minute runs on attached days to count for 2x30....just to get people out on the low volume day without messing up their training programs.

At the end of the day, some modifications were met to keep the spirit of running 100 days in row to running 100 times and just getting you all out and running as often as possible, while hopefully minimizing any injury risk. I feel it is a fine balance between keeping you all engaged and losing people due to burn out or injuries. Days off are good, low volume days are good. For more advanced runners 30 min is a low volume day. For some of you it is not. So use the "rules" to your advantage.

:)

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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The Pfitzinger marathoning plans have a run every day once you get to the 85 mpw plan. Surprised me the first time I checked it out. I flipped through the plan, expecting to see a rest day in there somewhere, but nope - 18 straight weeks of running every day, right up until the race. Too much for me during taper, so I now take a day or two off on race week - at least one for travel.

That being said, I missed Friday as part of a mini-taper for a Sunday half (ok, it was raining) and I haven't run yet today. It's like 40° out there! You guys are crazy!
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Talking of crazy (weather): Saturday morning 80 mile ride then 4 mile run in 78' temps, then Sunday morning 14 mile run in 36' temps - crazy Houston weather.
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3h40m Saturday in fresh snow while it freezing rained. Wish I'd got out more than an hour before sunset - was a little eerie slogging through some knee-deep places in the dark.





Then -11c for last night's run on trail below, -8c for my lunch run and -12c for this evening's run. No coyotes today, though; just urban running.



Still tough on the ankles with lumpy snow & ice, but at least it seems it's supposed to get milder for the rest of the year - right around the freezing mark by tomorrow and possibly slightly above it soon.

It's very pretty in the woods, and there are lots of fun Christmas decorations up around town. Go exploring!

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [mstange22] [ In reply to ]
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I am familiar with Pfitzinger training method... and I think you may not be fully understanding that under his method of marathon training for +85 MPW, the tapering process kicks in about three weeks prior to race day. He feels that tempo workouts are relatively easy to recover from, long runs a little more difficult because he never really trains at marathon pace for more than 14-15 miles, and v/o type workouts are the most difficult. Tapering for a tune up race would require 4-5 "recovery days", with a similar interval of time between similar workouts. However, because each of these type of workouts uses a different energy system, he feels comfortable with less "recovery" between regular workouts. So, the idea is that rest does not mean resting the entire body, just resting the energy system that was primarily targeted. The two main factors to consider are degree of muscle damage and glycogen depletion. While he generally follows the hard / easy principle, he does at times even alter that to hard/hard/easy/easy. Back in the day, I used to ride with (actually try and keep up with for a while) an olympic road rider. He used to tell me that when his training had progressed to where he could hammer out consecutive hard days, i.e. such as back to back hard 100 mile rides, he knew he was very close to being ready. If you examine the last 4 weeks of Pftzingers 18 week training plan, you will see that about 40% of the days are easy recovery days, 4 days at Vo2Max, 3 long runs, and the rest general aerobic with a little bit of speed. While it is true there are no absolute rest days, the peak miles day is at 5 weeks before race day, and goes a little backwards from there.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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This will be my second year doing this challenge. Last year it helped me PR three races. Incredible what consistency in running can do.
I am also doing the Pfitz 18/ 85 plan for the first time and will see in a couple weeks how the body feels with the extra milage, so far so good.
Hope to BQ my marathon then running my first Ultra 100 miler in late February.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Deserwest] [ In reply to ]
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I've followed Pfitz for about 4 years now. First time through the 85 mpw plan, I think I was a little overtrained with the everyday running. I get that he preaches the hard/easy philosophy (and sometimes gets you to sneak in another hard run on back-to-back days), but there's nothing wrong with mixing in a day off if you feel like you need it.

I also think the higher-mileage plans might require a little more rest in the leadup to the race for those who are doing them for the first time. Mostly just based on my n=1 experience, but I've noticed that a few weeks AFTER the race, I'm starting to feel like the benefits of the training are finally kicking in. Almost like the race was the last hard effort and the recovery was a taper. This has dissipated a bit as I've gone through more cycles.

If you look at that first "taper" week on the plans, it certainly doesn't seem all that tapery - a VO2max session, a med-long run then a race, followed by a long run. Mileage only steps down a bit.

You can brute force your way into the race without taking a day off, but IMO, it will probably be more beneficial to take a day or two off leading up to the race - especially if it's a destination race that will require travel.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [mstange22] [ In reply to ]
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I am not surprised that you wrote that you felt more race fit a few weeks after your peak race. In cycling, the Tours of Italy or Switzerland, are multi day races that some riders use to build race fitness for the Tour D France. There is no substitute for racing, and tune up races in running either. Be it Pfitzinger, Hansen, Daniels, all of them schedule tune up races proximate to the race. Pfitzinger schedules a 8-10 K two weeks before marathon day. Hansens has a tune up race just 4-5 days before. Again, the point is the taper is 2-4 weeks long and culminates with some speed work the week of the race ( so, you have like two weeks of nothing but recovery weeks, then a week of speed work, perhaps twice a week during the last week.) All that said, this stuff is written for 25 year olds, not older guys. When you get older, you just have to figure out a different way, be it more time on your bike or other cross training. One thing for sure, rest days are just that, no nothing. The term "recovery day" is a complete misnomer ... the only way you really recover, is as you suggest, do nothing. Recovery days are just there to keep the volume up and allow you to train in an glycogen depleted state without killing yourself. I know that all the books say, recovery days are about blood flow to the legs, and getting rid of lactic acid, and in my view this utter and complete baloney, and especially after age 45-50. Don;t get me wrong, I love volume training. My best races are done with huge volume and almost zero speed training. My best races never come after taking multiple rest days, in fact my worst races came after days off. In fact, my best racing seems to have come about two months after this 100/100 challenge. I suspect what is going on is a much longer schedule... more like a 30-35 week build up rather than 16-18 weeks. I don't know why so many of these plans are built around 18 weeks, probably because they want to sell plans 3 times a year. It really makes little sense to me.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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If this is not linked to Strava or GC to automatically upload, then lets at least fix the manual upload of tcx files!

When I manually upload a tcx from my Garmin 310XT, it does not show time or distance.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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I see that H20 didn't waste any time making the rules work to his advantage!

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Tri3 wrote:
I see that H2) didn't waste any time making the rules work to his advantage!

I am not the only one, so why single me out?

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h2ofun wrote:
Tri3 wrote:
I see that H2) didn't waste any time making the rules work to his advantage!

I am not the only one, so why single me out?
I don't see a problem with using the rules to our advantage. As long as the person is running for a minimum of 30 minutes each time and has at least an hour between each run I say go for it!
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Folks, lighten up! It was a good-natured ribbing, given the multiple questions by H20 re: double run days. I edited my post to put it in pink. All better now?

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Tri3] [ In reply to ]
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I had one of my best workouts since starting back training in April. Wednesday is my running club's track workout day. We went on the road and did 8x1 mile on 2.30 rest. Averaged 5.23 for them all and felt really smooth overall (well, except for the last one).

The next few days with the Christmas activities will be light but will fully resume on Monday. My legs can use a few super easy days, too...

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I had one of my best workouts since starting back training in April. Wednesday is my running club's track workout day. We went on the road and did 8x1 mile on 2.30 rest. Averaged 5.23 for them all and felt really smooth overall (well, except for the last one).

The next few days with the Christmas activities will be light but will fully resume on Monday. My legs can use a few super easy days, too...

That is one killer workout!! Got to try that one day. If you don't mind whats your mile PR so that I can try to calculate my pace.
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Tri3 wrote:
Folks, lighten up! It was a good-natured ribbing, given the multiple questions by H20 re: double run days. I edited my post to put it in pink. All better now?

:)

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [dualsport] [ In reply to ]
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I ran a 4.33 1600 but that was 10 years ago. Could probably only do a 4.50 or so right now because I'm not training for it specifically. This workout was somewhere between 10k and half marathon pace.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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Yeesh. Nice workout! When getting ready for a marathon, I try to get my last 3x1 down around 5:30, but that's only 3 reps and I take about 4:00 rest. I hate the fast stuff.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [mstange22] [ In reply to ]
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I have some decent news to report. I did my first "real run" in > 15 months. I started with a shuffle on my treadmills with Vibrams (i have better coordination and nervous system function with these unicorn shoes since they splay my metatarsels and open up the nerve endings) at 4 mph and then gradually brought it up to 5 mph. Yeah, I realize this is slower than my slowest blowup Ironman pace but it felt more like jogging than shuffling. Then I started playing around with grade...first up to 8%, then 10, then 12 then 15. At 5 mph at 15% your definitely "running" but the pounding is low. I just alternated up to 10-15% range and then back down to zero to 4% range. Gradually brought speed up to 6 mph then 6.5 mph. That felt like actual running on the steep grade. The steep grades felt good as I have been doing some snowshoe running/hiking in the hills in knee deep snow.

It felt really good and I really wanted to keep going but cut it off at 42 minutes. My cardio is awesome from all the swimming and kick sets have my legs pretty good condition not to mention water running, but I need to be careful cashing cheques that my body can't afford (YET).

In any case, I got a real 100/100 run in. No snowshoes this time, but the snowshoe work seems to have helped my range of motion and nervous system function. Let's see how this goes. I hope it's not my only one, but i am hopeful it ain't. It's been a long haul since I felt I was coordinated enough to run....disc injury and nerve compression has been taking forever to get better.
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Awesome work, Dev! This is fantastic news!

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Great news, dev...hope the progress continues!!

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Glad to hear you were able to run, Dev.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm 8 days in a row now, and finally starting to feel "better" running. Amazing how bad you feel after not running for a couple months, and packing on some extra weight.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [nickwhite] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah the consistency is great. Just what I've been needing. I think this will lead to good things!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [timotheus] [ In reply to ]
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13 miles in the rain today. Probably would have just sat around inside if not for this challenge. So, thanks?
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I had already committed to being primarily a runner for 2017 so the challenge is a natural fit for me. Much easier this time around without all of that silly swimming and biking to distract me.......

Anyways, hit run number 10 today and I feel darn good.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev, I'm really stoked for you. Thanks for posting this. You're an inspiration!!!

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [ianpeace] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Ian....you have to tell the story about how you did the Wildflower Mtn bike triathlon in the middle of the Wildflower long course and beat the cutoff for both races by having the longer T1 transition "ever" in the long course and squeezing the mountain bike full triathlon in during T1 of the Long course race. Talk about inspiration. Slowman should do a front page article on that!

In any case at this point I am looking forward to this 2016 year just ending....Glen Fry, Prince, Bowie and George Michael gone in one year. At least I am alive even though I have been in pain and discomfort much of the year. I got another treadmill shuffle in today and a CT ride and got out on the XC ski trails (flats) and did 2 hours of upper body/core work (double poling, not really moving the legs that much).

Merry Christmas....now everyone please stay alive and healthy (yes, I am traumatized by various musicians from my teens/early 20's popping off this year).
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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The new format is confusing and I can't find the 100 run challenge anymore

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Why are the user names with the same number of runs no longer listed like in the old log in alphabetical order?

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Snyderman] [ In reply to ]
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All my runs have completely disappeared from the challenge, even though I can still see them listed in my workouts. (FWIW!, I have run everyday of the challenge, so I am at 12 runs).

Kinda seems like a bad idea to make this change to the workout log in the middle of the biggest challenge ST has all year....

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Power13] [ In reply to ]
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Agree that it seems like a bad idea in the middle of a big challenge - although I was able to get my runs up to date in the new tracker and show up accurately in the new challenge. So I'm there but very few others in the challenge are there.

It also seems like a big change was made to move to a new log that has a lot of other features listed along the right side of the page that I don't think I'll ever use but lacks some very basic things like logging workouts with hr:min:secs or tracking workouts based on miles. Wouldn't it have been easier to just launch it when it was done?
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Snyderman] [ In reply to ]
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I can't find it either. Both thumbs down.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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I believe there is a secondary sort on time (or maybe distance?). So, the bare minimalists like me (exactly 30 minute runs every time) end up on the bottom in a group with equal run numbers.

I think that's how it works.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Travis R] [ In reply to ]
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Travis R wrote:
I believe there is a secondary sort on time (or maybe distance?). So, the bare minimalists like me (exactly 30 minute runs every time) end up on the bottom in a group with equal run numbers.

I think that's how it works.

Everybody should now be in the run challenge (it's marked "100/100 for 2016/17" -- it doesn't say anything about running per se).

The secondary sorting is kinda undefined at this point. I could put whatever secondary sort in there that we think is most relevant.

And sorry, I haven't been following this thread very closely. I've been spending all my time on the new training log one.

-Eric
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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The secondary sorting is kinda undefined at this point. I could put whatever secondary sort in there that we think is most relevant.

I just posted the same to the training log thread -- I'm fairly certain the secondary sort for the old training log was by distance, which always made sense to me.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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This is a great challenge and I'm excited to be a part of it. Unfortunately I was just informed that 6 of my runs didn't count because they were under 30 min. However, each run was only 2-3 minutes under the 30 minute minimum. I could've easily run the extra time if I'd known, but I'm new to the forum and didn't even know their were rules when I signed up. Can I make up these 6 runs to have them count by running the difference? Like 6 runs times 3 minutes = 18 minute run, so that those runs can count towards my goal? Or, can I just run an extra 18 minutes and then go back and adjust those runs to the 30 minutes? Appreciate your considering, and either way, it's a great challenge and I'm grateful to be a part of it. I've run 12 of the last 13 days and have never felt better.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [ronaulbach] [ In reply to ]
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ronaulbach wrote:
This is a great challenge and I'm excited to be a part of it. Unfortunately I was just informed that 6 of my runs didn't count because they were under 30 min. However, each run was only 2-3 minutes under the 30 minute minimum. I could've easily run the extra time if I'd known, but I'm new to the forum and didn't even know their were rules when I signed up. Can I make up these 6 runs to have them count by running the difference? Like 6 runs times 3 minutes = 18 minute run, so that those runs can count towards my goal? Or, can I just run an extra 18 minutes and then go back and adjust those runs to the 30 minutes? Appreciate your considering, and either way, it's a great challenge and I'm grateful to be a part of it. I've run 12 of the last 13 days and have never felt better.

Rules are rules. The goal is 100 run in 100 days, not 100 days of running.

Now, by the rules, if you wait at least an hour between runs, you can do more than one a day, as long as each is at least 30 minutes.

Unless you use one rule for back to back, if one is at least 15 minutes, you can run the next day, at least 45, and count them on each day for a minimum of 30.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [ronaulbach] [ In reply to ]
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ronaulbach wrote:
This is a great challenge and I'm excited to be a part of it. Unfortunately I was just informed that 6 of my runs didn't count because they were under 30 min. However, each run was only 2-3 minutes under the 30 minute minimum. I could've easily run the extra time if I'd known, but I'm new to the forum and didn't even know their were rules when I signed up. Can I make up these 6 runs to have them count by running the difference? Like 6 runs times 3 minutes = 18 minute run, so that those runs can count towards my goal? Or, can I just run an extra 18 minutes and then go back and adjust those runs to the 30 minutes? Appreciate your considering, and either way, it's a great challenge and I'm grateful to be a part of it. I've run 12 of the last 13 days and have never felt better.


Sorry the rules are in the first post of this thread since the first day. The Front page article provided a link to the first post of this thread. So sorry if you missed that. Having said that, nothing is stopping anyone from going and editing any fiction they want to enter in the log. At the end of the day it is all honor system. If you did not actually do what is counted in the rules, do you want to do edits just because you missed the rules or do you want to suck it up and live with it?

To me that would be like saying, "Well I arrived late for the start of my wave and started 200m behind everyone so before the turnaround buoy I cut out 100m before the turn to equalize the 200m extra I did because I was stuck on shore and did not get up to the in water start line on time.

Sorry if it sounds a bit hard nosed. It's really up to you if you want to play with the rules that apply to everyone or if you want to apply your own house rules to yourself but still be in the challenge spreadsheet with everyone else playing with the same rules. I realize it kind of sucks, but if we let you go, then every day someone will come asking for a waiver.

By the way, thanks for playing with us, and I really do appreciate you participating and I'm sorry you missed the first rules. 30 minutes has always been the threshold. We've joked around that Mo Farah could win the olympics 10,000m and do a victory lap and even that would not count for the 30 min minimum....he'd have to out and do another victory lap or 2 to get over the top!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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ronaulbach wrote:
This is a great challenge and I'm excited to be a part of it. Unfortunately I was just informed that 6 of my runs didn't count because they were under 30 min. However, each run was only 2-3 minutes under the 30 minute minimum. I could've easily run the extra time if I'd known, but I'm new to the forum and didn't even know their were rules when I signed up. Can I make up these 6 runs to have them count by running the difference? Like 6 runs times 3 minutes = 18 minute run, so that those runs can count towards my goal? Or, can I just run an extra 18 minutes and then go back and adjust those runs to the 30 minutes? Appreciate your considering, and either way, it's a great challenge and I'm grateful to be a part of it. I've run 12 of the last 13 days and have never felt better.


Sorry the rules are in the first post of this thread since the first day. The Front page article provided a link to the first post of this thread. So sorry if you missed that. Having said that, nothing is stopping anyone from going and editing any fiction they want to enter in the log. At the end of the day it is all honor system. If you did not actually do what is counted in the rules, do you want to do edits just because you missed the rules or do you want to suck it up and live with it?

To me that would be like saying, "Well I arrived late for the start of my wave and started 200m behind everyone so before the turnaround buoy I cut out 100m before the turn to equalize the 200m extra I did because I was stuck on shore and did not get up to the in water start line on time.

Sorry if it sounds a bit hard nosed. It's really up to you if you want to play with the rules that apply to everyone or if you want to apply your own house rules to yourself but still be in the challenge spreadsheet with everyone else playing with the same rules. I realize it kind of sucks, but if we let you go, then every day someone will come asking for a waiver.

By the way, thanks for playing with us, and I really do appreciate you participating and I'm sorry you missed the first rules. 30 minutes has always been the threshold. We've joked around that Mo Farah could win the olympics 10,000m and do a victory lap and even that would not count for the 30 min minimum....he'd have to out and do another victory lap or 2 to get over the top!

Best example of this I was thinking was a lesson most of us learned in school. Remember the test that the teacher said read all the instructions before you start.
Well most did not since they were all working hard on each question, but a few somehow got done so fast turning the test into the teacher. When the majority got
to the bottom of the test, it said, ignore the questions, just sign your name and turn it in.

I never forgot that learning experience.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not editing my old runs as "fiction" or creating my own rules. It was a simple question, I'm new here and signed up not even realizing there were rules or this thread. I'll catch up with two a days, no worries.
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I'm not editing my old runs as "fiction" or creating my own rules. It was a simple question, I'm new here and signed up not even realizing there were rules or this thread. I'll catch up with two a days, no worries.

Sorry if I came across a bit over the top on this. After 10 years of having the challenge around here, something like this always comes up, so the simple thing is to ask everyone to look at the rules. Every year, for around a month before the challenge starts we also have an "airiing of the grievances thread" which is part joke, part discussion. We've had many minor tweaks of the rules through this medium without hopefully changing the spirit of things, but once the challenge starts then we've never had any waivers and stuck with the rules. I don't know how many times many of us have done extra laps around the parking lot at work to make the 30 minutes, or told family that we'll be 3-5 min late for XYZ event just to make the minimum. There have been 1000's of instances of athletes who have gone out of their way to make the minimum. I've had overall race winners at the local winter tri going out and jogging an extra 12-13 minutes to "make the minimum". So you can see why things get a bit inflexible on this front.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. Came in late so had to retroactively log my workouts.

Damn, some of you are keeners! I ran every day and am at barely half the number of the leaders.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Kula] [ In reply to ]
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Kula wrote:
I just posted the same to the training log thread -- I'm fairly certain the secondary sort for the old training log was by distance, which always made sense to me.

This is in place now for the 100 runs challenge. :-)

-Eric
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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Kula wrote:
I just posted the same to the training log thread -- I'm fairly certain the secondary sort for the old training log was by distance, which always made sense to me.

This is in place now for the 100 runs challenge. :-)
-Eric

Just saw that. Thanks! And duration with seconds, too.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for adding the seconds back in.

I was on a roll to start off the challenge but ended up sick and had to take most of yesterday (only one run in the am) and all of today off. I'm hoping the day of complete rest will get me back on my feet tomorrow. It stinks to watch my name slide down the leaderboard...
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [TheKoz] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for doing the new log. I haven't explored much but it seems to be working well, even for the likes of me; just guessing, but I think that I have the IT skills that are commensurate with... probably my old dog.

I'm happy to have gotten off to a good start - need to get in a bunch, including some two-a-days, while I have some time away from work. I'm bound to miss a few days along the way. Good luck to all.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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Marcel....just wanted to share some good news...after a bunch of snowshoe efforts, my control over my left leg seems to have improved. First I did a 90 min CT ride with a hard 30 min course ave 240W. Then today I can say I truly did a "real run" and it was off the bike....38 min, 6K on the treadmill most of if 6-7.5 mph 3-15% grades with some recovery at 5 mph....yay....maybe things are on the right track after I leave this horrendous 2016 year. Off for a snowshoe this afternoon on the golf course. Happy New Year to all 100/100 campers.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Just hit 16 consecutive runs today, surpassing my record of 15 straight set last year. (Started a day late on the challenge this year.) This will provide a nice base to come for my 2017 races: EagleMan in June and Casco Bay SwimRun LC in August.

Thanks again Dev for setting this challenge up, and glad to hear your running is coming along.

Wishing everyone in the Challenge continued success in 2017.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone have a plan they follow for this challenge ?
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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finally got to do my first run of the challenge. ice on the first day, and then i got sick twice in a row. now that i can breathe again, i am starting. though way behind. i had been planning on an unsupported trail race in 4 weeks, but now i feel like i am at square one. there is always another race at another time.


happy new year everyone!

and yeah to dev for your first real run!!!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [jans] [ In reply to ]
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Run often and run lots. Stay healthy. Have fun and get fast.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Love this challenge and the results of what consistent running does. Was able to PR a 10K race on Saturday. It does help that this time of year is perfect for running in South Florida, although this winter has been non existent. Congrats to everyone that does this challenge in cold weather.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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joining the party late..... Bought a treadmill on dec 14 very excited to take part in the challenge. Hurt my back moving the treadmill from the store to the basement. 2 weeks off including a lot of sickness, cold, flu, kids sick, etc...

started on 28th!!!! heavy and out of shape! the game will be to see how to get as many run in while juggling 2 kids, a 3rd one arriving in a few weeks and returning to some level of acceptable fitness! The treadmill is the best invention ever! kids nap time = run time from now on! they nap, i run!

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [jonnyo] [ In reply to ]
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jonnyo wrote:
joining the party late..... Bought a treadmill on dec 14 very excited to take part in the challenge. Hurt my back moving the treadmill from the store to the basement. 2 weeks off including a lot of sickness, cold, flu, kids sick, etc...

started on 28th!!!! heavy and out of shape! the game will be to see how to get as many run in while juggling 2 kids, a 3rd one arriving in a few weeks and returning to some level of acceptable fitness! The treadmill is the best invention ever! kids nap time = run time from now on! they nap, i run!

Great you are aboard. I have had a treadmill (which I just moved this 300lb monster into my new man cave, but I got 4 young big boys to help me move it), and only used it for 10 minute bricks. But now, when the weather being crappy outside, I have come to an understanding with the beast and just turn up the music and try to pretend I am chasing
my competition in a race to reduce the boredom.

Glad your back is better. Bad backs are no fun.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Great challenge, love it!
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jonnyo wrote:
joining the party late..... Bought a treadmill on dec 14 very excited to take part in the challenge. Hurt my back moving the treadmill from the store to the basement. 2 weeks off including a lot of sickness, cold, flu, kids sick, etc...

started on 28th!!!! heavy and out of shape! the game will be to see how to get as many run in while juggling 2 kids, a 3rd one arriving in a few weeks and returning to some level of acceptable fitness! The treadmill is the best invention ever! kids nap time = run time from now on! they nap, i run!

First of all welcome, secondly, aside from the treadmill being the best with kids, I literally got all my "longer training done" when my son was in the bike trailer or the ski pulk 18-20 years ago. Basically I'd do a 3ish hour outing with him each day of the weekend while he watched for a while and slept! Glad you are getting back in shape.

We're on day 20 today. By now everyone should be in a bit of a groove. Hopefully no injuries and if you feel any niggles, week 4 is a really good time to back down the volume and use the challenge "minimums" to your advantage. If you're already using the minimums and running every day, consider some days off and make up time in week 10-14 when your body is much stronger and fitter (and maybe you are 5-20 lbs lighter too....easier to increase mileage then).
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Today's track workout was 10x800. I averaged between 2.28/2.29 for them all on about 1.40 of rest. A month ago I averaged 2.34 so it was a huge bump.

Last week was 3x2 miles averaging 10.35. With my first race of 2016 (the Phoenix Rock n Roll half) just a few weeks out, I'm right where I was want to be.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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Today's track workout was 10x800. I averaged between 2.28/2.29 for them all on about 1.40 of rest. A month ago I averaged 2.34 so it was a huge bump.

Last week was 3x2 miles averaging 10.35. With my first race of 2016 (the Phoenix Rock n Roll half) just a few weeks out, I'm right where I was want to be.

Hey, cool, I'm racing that one, too. I'll likely see you there. However, sounds like after the start I will see your rapidly receding form as you zoom away during the first mile, haha :-)

-Eric
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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Nice! We've been having great weather. Lots of mornings in the 40s and low wind. If it holds up next weekend, we are all in for a fast morning.

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Nice! We've been having great weather. Lots of mornings in the 40s and low wind. If it holds up next weekend, we are all in for a fast morning.

I'll take all the help I can get!! Plus weather in the 40's sounds AMAZING (just north of Salt Lake here, so it's been in the 20's a lot).

-E
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Today's track workout was 10x800. I averaged between 2.28/2.29 for them all on about 1.40 of rest. A month ago I averaged 2.34 so it was a huge bump.

Last week was 3x2 miles averaging 10.35. With my first race of 2016 (the Phoenix Rock n Roll half) just a few weeks out, I'm right where I was want to be.

I look forward to the day I can run fast again, but right now, I'm in a rehab mode, but I am positively excited by the progress of my shuffles on the treadmill. I have now gotten to the point that shuffling on the treadmill at 5 mph is quite comfortable without any leg spasms or spine discomfort. The funny thing is that aside from aerobic load, incline makes no difference in motor control (steeper incline is better motor control), so most of the runs at 5-7 mph range, at zero to 15%. Most of it is at 4%.

Last night I was cursing the guys who made the rules for the challenge. I got a 20 min run in before work (first day at a new company, so I ran out of time in the morning), so around 10 pm it was bugging me that I only did 20 min, so I went down to the treadmill, put on my vibrams (better coordination with those) and shuffled out another 15 min. The first part was so slow (barely past powerwalk speed and I am unsure if both legs were even off the ground on each stride), that I only gave myself credit for 10 more minutes. But this is progress. I am hoping that mid way through the challenge i can venture to going outside, but I don't want to mess with a good things right now and just work with what's working. I've found myself getting out of hand and competitive with the number on the "screen" and jacking up the speed to 8 mph a few times for 10 seconds or so and then realizing that my cardio will do all kinds of things that my running chassis is not yet ready for and then dialed back to 5- 6mph range. I might target 25/25 for the last 25 days hopefully at more of a regular pace for me. Currently at 15/22, but a month ago, did not think that I'd even get 15 in over 100 days, but after a year of hobbling progress has been decent..
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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Apparently I'm not very tech smart - but how do you change the view in the 100/100 challenge to see the secondary sort by distance? I can't see the ranking anyway except by count of runs. Thanks
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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Apparently I'm not very tech smart - but how do you change the view in the 100/100 challenge to see the secondary sort by distance? I can't see the ranking anyway except by count of runs. Thanks

For the next few months go ahead and blame the log :-)

The secondary sort means that it's count of runs and then distance, so you'll only see it break down by distance order AFTER the count of runs matches. Does that make sense?

Full on sorting on whatever in the leaderboards is coming but it's behind some other stuff so it'll be a while.

Thank you!

-Eric
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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got it - and at least that means I'm not just incompetent and couldn't figure out how to switch views.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Glad to hear the rehab is progressing, dev...and congrats on the new gig. Will it involve less international travel? I still hope to one day meet up with you overseas for a run and / or beer.

Crawled my way on to the first page of results today after banging out another double-run day. Lunch run was cold @ 12*F, but not bad once you got going.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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yes it would be nice if the 100/100 would list by total distance and not number of runs. pretty sure that is how it used to be...
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yes it would be nice if the 100/100 would list by total distance and not number of runs. pretty sure that is how it used to be...

Except, that is not the challenge. I guess you could make a new one.

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Pretty sure the challenge results/standings are posted exactly as they have been every year I have participated.
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TheKoz wrote:
Pretty sure the challenge results/standings are posted exactly as they have been every year I have participated.

Makes sense

I sure feel you guys pushing hard

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You used to be able to change the order of the challenge metrics so you could compare rankings by run count, distance, Aerobic Points etc. and although yes the run challenge is 100/100 people will have different priorities depending on their training plan and it can be interesting to compare different metrics. For instance I'm at the end of a marathon training plan so multiple runs of 30 mins each day to "up" my run count numbers does me no good.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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HoustonTri(er) wrote:
You used to be able to change the order of the challenge metrics so you could compare rankings by run count, distance, Aerobic Points etc. and although yes the run challenge is 100/100 people will have different priorities depending on their training plan and it can be interesting to compare different metrics. For instance I'm at the end of a marathon training plan so multiple runs of 30 mins each day to "up" my run count numbers does me no good.

This feature is coming soon to a leaderboard near you. :-)

-Eric
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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HoustonTri(er) wrote:
You used to be able to change the order of the challenge metrics so you could compare rankings by run count, distance, Aerobic Points etc. and although yes the run challenge is 100/100 people will have different priorities depending on their training plan and it can be interesting to compare different metrics. For instance I'm at the end of a marathon training plan so multiple runs of 30 mins each day to "up" my run count numbers does me no good.

Which is not what the 100/100 challenge is about. This challenge is to get folks to do frequency. Nothing about distance, pace, etc.

So, IMO, if one needs a push for distance training, great, start a different challenge with the goals set to meet the need for increased distance running.
Since I only race short course stuff, I need speed, and frequency would seem to be a much better help to me, than distance.

And trust me, running 30 minute runs, especially on a treadmill, is mentally not easy!!!!

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The 100/100 challenge is about running 100 times in 100 days - we can agree on that. However, how you do that is going to differ for different people with different goals - can we agree on that? As you said "I only race short course stuff" - so your priorities/training plan is going to be different from someone racing longer races. Frequency can be and is separate from distance - I can be looking to increase my frequency of running at longer distances while someone else is looking for increased frequency of quick runs - are those not both goals of the challenge? I don't see the challenge as being specific to any one group of athletes - I see it as being an aid to increasing your running frequency at whatever level you were currently running at - whether that be a couch to 5k runner or MOP moving to long course.

The old challenge tables allowed you to look at the metrics in different ways - I didn't set that up but I found it interesting to look at based off my use of the challenge. As for treadmill running being mentally taxing believe me I get it - 5 days a week on my lunch break I run on a treadmill in an non air-conditioned room in Houston.
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The 100/100 challenge is about running 100 times in 100 days - we can agree on that. However, how you do that is going to differ for different people with different goals - can we agree on that? As you said "I only race short course stuff" - so your priorities/training plan is going to be different from someone racing longer races. Frequency can be and is separate from distance - I can be looking to increase my frequency of running at longer distances while someone else is looking for increased frequency of quick runs - are those not both goals of the challenge? I don't see the challenge as being specific to any one group of athletes - I see it as being an aid to increasing your running frequency at whatever level you were currently running at - whether that be a couch to 5k runner or MOP moving to long course.

The old challenge tables allowed you to look at the metrics in different ways - I didn't set that up but I found it interesting to look at based off my use of the challenge. As for treadmill running being mentally taxing believe me I get it - 5 days a week on my lunch break I run on a treadmill in an non air-conditioned room in Houston.

I agree. I was just offering that imo, a focus on frequency is quite different than distance per week or workout.

Should one be able to look at metrics in anyway they want. Would be great. But this would not, IMO, change how the standard display is for what the goal of the challenge is,
get folks to run more. I have run more in the last three weeks, but time, distance and quantity more than I have in my entire life. Is this smart? Time will tell.

Wow, you really have focus. After 30 minutes on the treadmill I am very glad this challenge allows me to take a break.

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h2ofun wrote:
HoustonTri(er) wrote:
The 100/100 challenge is about running 100 times in 100 days - we can agree on that. However, how you do that is going to differ for different people with different goals - can we agree on that? As you said "I only race short course stuff" - so your priorities/training plan is going to be different from someone racing longer races. Frequency can be and is separate from distance - I can be looking to increase my frequency of running at longer distances while someone else is looking for increased frequency of quick runs - are those not both goals of the challenge? I don't see the challenge as being specific to any one group of athletes - I see it as being an aid to increasing your running frequency at whatever level you were currently running at - whether that be a couch to 5k runner or MOP moving to long course.

The old challenge tables allowed you to look at the metrics in different ways - I didn't set that up but I found it interesting to look at based off my use of the challenge. As for treadmill running being mentally taxing believe me I get it - 5 days a week on my lunch break I run on a treadmill in an non air-conditioned room in Houston.

I agree. I was just offering that imo, a focus on frequency is quite different than distance per week or workout.

Should one be able to look at metrics in anyway they want. Would be great. But this would not, IMO, change how the standard display is for what the goal of the challenge is,
get folks to run more. I have run more in the last three weeks, but time, distance and quantity more than I have in my entire life. Is this smart? Time will tell.

Wow, you really have focus. After 30 minutes on the treadmill I am very glad this challenge allows me to take a break.


You fear losing your spot at the top. Shall I just break my daily run down by stopping every 30 min for 1 min and save that as an individual workout?
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His hold on the top spot seems pretty secure. We used to be able to click on each participant and see what they were logging run wise to see how they were getting to their total. 42 runs in 29 days (I think) is a lot of 30 mins runs. Esp since I don't think he started doubling up until 3-4 days into the challenge.
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His hold on the top spot seems pretty secure. We used to be able to click on each participant and see what they were logging run wise to see how they were getting to their total. 42 runs in 29 days (I think) is a lot of 30 mins runs. Esp since I don't think he started doubling up until 3-4 days into the challenge.


Yep, did not understand how it worked but with that said, I have never ever done multiple runs in one day. I tried running before biking but that was killing me and told the
wife I am done with the challenge. Still think what I am doing is stupid since it goes against everything I have said about not running too much. Darn Type A, OCD in me. :(

It is supposed to rain, and rain hard, for like the next 10 years. Not looking forward to all these 30 minute treadmill runs. SO SO boring.

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so for example. on this training log.... today i logged 10.02 miles in 1:12:53

but what i really did was:

2.5mi warm up 18:14

10 min break

3.13 5k 19:52 (dont laugh)

10 min break

4.39 cool down 34

100 runs / 100 days is about doing it as much as you can in 100 days, not hitting 100 runs in 30 days - as h2o fun is trying to do?
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My understanding is that it is first about quantity of runs, secondly about mileage...goal being that the increased frequency will automatically increase most people's total volume. It is the 100 Runs in 100 Days Challenge, not the "How Much Can You Run in 100 Days Challenge".

I have been very conservative so far...most runs right around 30 minutes, 3 or 4 more than that (45-50 min) and 2 double-days. Haven't missed a day yet, so I am up 2 runs vs number of days. But I am flying to Taipei on Monday and my flight leaves early (8:00am), so I am planning a rest day Monday and then getting in my 30 minutes for Tuesday once I land a Tuesday night (Taipei time). My goal until now had been to hit all the days to build the durability over 3 weeks. From here, I will start to build my volume.

Hoping to hit 100 runs....have no interest in bagging many days of multiple runs simply to "win" (or even "compete") in this challenge. Seems like some people are willing to compromise their normal training schedule in order to get more double-days, etc. Not really the point of the challenge, but to each their own, I guess.

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blah. others told me to participate cause i can hit the volume, which is actually low compared to other years - so i should stop logging i guess
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blah. others told me to participate cause i can hit the volume, which is actually low compared to other years - so i should stop logging i guess

Why? The end goal is to boost your running volume and get you ready for the season....no need to stop participating just because you might be more focused on mileage vs run quantity. Still a fun challenge and motivating...all good!

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synthetic wrote:
blah. others told me to participate cause i can hit the volume, which is actually low compared to other years - so i should stop logging i guess


Why? The end goal is to boost your running volume and get you ready for the season....no need to stop participating just because you might be more focused on mileage vs run quantity. Still a fun challenge and motivating...all good!

Good or bad, this challenge has gotten me to run more quantity, and volume than I ever have. Is it too much? Will it make me any faster?

All I know is I have never ran on the treadmill at 4am before this morning but I did because of the challenge and the helping at a race I had to do today. Wife asked
if I were going to run at 4 tomorrow and I said no. :)

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so for example. on this training log.... today i logged 10.02 miles in 1:12:53

but what i really did was:

2.5mi warm up 18:14

10 min break

3.13 5k 19:52 (dont laugh)

10 min break

4.39 cool down 34

100 runs / 100 days is about doing it as much as you can in 100 days, not hitting 100 runs in 30 days - as h2o fun is trying to do?

Hey, it really is about running as much training load as you can in 100 days and hopefully doing it safely. If someone is from a competitive running background in high school or college you ran a minimum of 6 days per week, but often more like 10 times in 6 days and many times 7 days per week. Like in any sport, if you want to get good, at some point you have to do it often. Swimmers will swim 10-14 times per week also logging huge volume.

At the end of the day, the challenge it there to help you safely jack up your training load....that really means jacking up overall mileage. If we made it a "mileage king" challenge, what we would end up seeing is the fastest runners always on top of the leaderboard. The reality is the fast runners here (at one point I would say I was one of them) are at the top of the leaderboard at every race they go to. When I was running fast and doing decent mileage, I did not want guys like "me" to hog this leaderboard too. I wanted to create a community where runners of all speeds could have success.

This is why spinning classes work. The entry level newbie cyclist can be in the same spin class with Chris Froome and they can ride "side by side" at 100% of their personal FTP and still be in the same group.

By rewarding "frequency" I was hoping that I can get runners of all speeds "glory and motivation". If you really want to see who is doing the biggest training load, just sort on mileage. But from a community building angle, by having the default sort on 'frequency' I have taken the speed part out of the equation. I always personally sorted on mileage after seeing the default frequency view. At the end of the day, I am still a mileage junkie....I had this stupid goal of swimming 100K per month all of last year when I could barely walk trying to hit 1200K for the year (I hit it on Dec 30th with a day to spare) and feel that mileage is the best gauge at a personal level when you compare with yourself. But bringing in mileage to compare with others is generally demotivating for everyone who are training at their own level.

Basically for the entire year last year, I was at the top of the monthly swim challenge distance because that was my focus. I asked Tigerchik and Halfspeed who are generally running those challenges, if they could change the gauge to frequency (I think I earned my request change by basically "winning" the swim mileage king status every month).

I feel that the biggest obstacle to age group athletes is just getting out the door for exercise. By rewarding frequency, we get people out. I've done several days when I have shuffled a 20 min treadmill jog before work and if not for the challenge, I'd call it a day right there, but have found myself going down the basement at 10 pm and doing a circuit of 4x<2.5 min treadmill jog + 3 weight training exercises> to put myself over the top. It's forced me out for a bit of jogging and also forced me to do some weights/core work that I'd otherwise likely blow off and I'd just sit on the couch watching football or hockey or surf ST. So it works as long as we do it with some respect for what our bodies can take.
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Hey Dave, it is great that the challenge is getting you out with more frequency, but please realize that the main goal of all this is to prepare you all for a healthy year (racing or otherwise) while getting into the groove of enhanced frequency approach. The prize is not the leaderboard of this challenge (like we said at the start use it when you need to motivate yourself) though. Just don't get burn't out. You are an experiences athlete those so you'll know when little things are bothering you and when to back it down.
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Hey Dave, it is great that the challenge is getting you out with more frequency, but please realize that the main goal of all this is to prepare you all for a healthy year (racing or otherwise) while getting into the groove of enhanced frequency approach. The prize is not the leaderboard of this challenge (like we said at the start use it when you need to motivate yourself) though. Just don't get burn't out. You are an experiences athlete those so you'll know when little things are bothering you and when to back it down.

Yep.

But I am just amazed at the few who are saying I am cheating. Or it is not fair, or whatever. Am I doing too much, will see. I was running 7 days a week for a long time, just
never this much volume. I got on my trainer this morning to ride brockway and 20 minutes into the ride, one of my varicranks breaks. So, was not planning to run that much but
since my bike did not work out today, will see. Just finished my first 30 minute with a 10 minute 6:30 pace brick and 20 minute 7:30 pace warm down. After my 75 minute break,
back on the treadmill again.

Again, I just keep cracking up for the few who want to change the rules to their goals. Or again, I am somehow cheating against the rules. This is why I asked a lot of questions
at the beginning, and still got grief for just trying to understand the rules.

I have my first Duathlon race in 3 weeks, assuming it does not rain. Got my buck kick by an older guy last year, so hope to come back and do better.

Without this challenge, and leaderboard carrot, NO WAY would I be running this much! Is this good or bad? Guess it just depends who you ask on ST. :)

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so for example. on this training log.... today i logged 10.02 miles in 1:12:53

but what i really did was:

2.5mi warm up 18:14

10 min break

3.13 5k 19:52 (dont laugh)

10 min break

4.39 cool down 34

100 runs / 100 days is about doing it as much as you can in 100 days, not hitting 100 runs in 30 days - as h2o fun is trying to do?


Hey, it really is about running as much training load as you can in 100 days and hopefully doing it safely. If someone is from a competitive running background in high school or college you ran a minimum of 6 days per week, but often more like 10 times in 6 days and many times 7 days per week. Like in any sport, if you want to get good, at some point you have to do it often. Swimmers will swim 10-14 times per week also logging huge volume.

At the end of the day, the challenge it there to help you safely jack up your training load....that really means jacking up overall mileage. If we made it a "mileage king" challenge, what we would end up seeing is the fastest runners always on top of the leaderboard. The reality is the fast runners here (at one point I would say I was one of them) are at the top of the leaderboard at every race they go to. When I was running fast and doing decent mileage, I did not want guys like "me" to hog this leaderboard too. I wanted to create a community where runners of all speeds could have success.

This is why spinning classes work. The entry level newbie cyclist can be in the same spin class with Chris Froome and they can ride "side by side" at 100% of their personal FTP and still be in the same group.

By rewarding "frequency" I was hoping that I can get runners of all speeds "glory and motivation". If you really want to see who is doing the biggest training load, just sort on mileage. But from a community building angle, by having the default sort on 'frequency' I have taken the speed part out of the equation. I always personally sorted on mileage after seeing the default frequency view. At the end of the day, I am still a mileage junkie....I had this stupid goal of swimming 100K per month all of last year when I could barely walk trying to hit 1200K for the year (I hit it on Dec 30th with a day to spare) and feel that mileage is the best gauge at a personal level when you compare with yourself. But bringing in mileage to compare with others is generally demotivating for everyone who are training at their own level.

Basically for the entire year last year, I was at the top of the monthly swim challenge distance because that was my focus. I asked Tigerchik and Halfspeed who are generally running those challenges, if they could change the gauge to frequency (I think I earned my request change by basically "winning" the swim mileage king status every month).

I feel that the biggest obstacle to age group athletes is just getting out the door for exercise. By rewarding frequency, we get people out. I've done several days when I have shuffled a 20 min treadmill jog before work and if not for the challenge, I'd call it a day right there, but have found myself going down the basement at 10 pm and doing a circuit of 4x<2.5 min treadmill jog + 3 weight training exercises> to put myself over the top. It's forced me out for a bit of jogging and also forced me to do some weights/core work that I'd otherwise likely blow off and I'd just sit on the couch watching football or hockey or surf ST. So it works as long as we do it with some respect for what our bodies can take.

well i know runners putting half the volume as I do and running much faster.... so more distance doesnt always equal more speed. so you can sort that way too :) (so i know whose log to stalk, ha ha)
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so yesterday 20 miles in with 3 water stops... 30 sec each. should that be 3 workouts? today 7 miles then 1 mile of .10 strides with 30s rest between, thats 11 runs i guess :) on the system i am just logging total for the day even if i actually do doubles. pretty sure the day total is more stress indicator than frequency total in the day
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so yesterday 20 miles in with 3 water stops... 30 sec each. should that be 3 workouts? today 7 miles then 1 mile of .10 strides with 30s rest between, thats 11 runs i guess :) on the system i am just logging total for the day even if i actually do doubles. pretty sure the day total is more stress indicator than frequency total in the day

Unless runs are separated by a minimum of 1 hour, it is logged as one run. Can you guys please just read the rules and stop wasting everyone's time with questions already answered in the first post of this thread?
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I have a question that I haven't found answered in this thread. How, exactly, do we log our 15/45 (in 2 days) runs? If for example I run 1.5 miles in 15 mins on Day 1, then 4.5 miles in 45 mins on Day 2, do I log them as 30 mins/3 miles on both Day 1 and Day 2? Or can I just do 30 mins, 1.5 miles (day1), and 30 mins 4.5 miles (day2)? Or does it even matter? I have been splitting out time and distance based on my average pace, but it's more math than I want to do!
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the first one doesn't count I don;t think. the runs have to be 30 minutes long

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I have a question that I haven't found answered in this thread. How, exactly, do we log our 15/45 (in 2 days) runs? If for example I run 1.5 miles in 15 mins on Day 1, then 4.5 miles in 45 mins on Day 2, do I log them as 30 mins/3 miles on both Day 1 and Day 2? Or can I just do 30 mins, 1.5 miles (day1), and 30 mins 4.5 miles (day2)? Or does it even matter? I have been splitting out time and distance based on my average pace, but it's more math than I want to do!

I logged 30 minutes per day and split the total distance in half. Can do this up to twice a week.

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the first one doesn't count I don;t think. the runs have to be 30 minutes long

Nope there is a wuss clause for up to two times a week, a 15 min followed the next day with a 45 or longer gets averaged for the two days.

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I have a question that I haven't found answered in this thread. How, exactly, do we log our 15/45 (in 2 days) runs? If for example I run 1.5 miles in 15 mins on Day 1, then 4.5 miles in 45 mins on Day 2, do I log them as 30 mins/3 miles on both Day 1 and Day 2? Or can I just do 30 mins, 1.5 miles (day1), and 30 mins 4.5 miles (day2)? Or does it even matter? I have been splitting out time and distance based on my average pace, but it's more math than I want to do!

To some degree it does not matter how you allocate the mileage to the distance. For your own personal accounting you can log one as 30 min 1.5 miles and the other as 30 min 4.5 miles. The challenge cares about sessions, not the length of each one, but it does add up your aggragate distance so logging it as 3+3 or 1.5+4.5 won't make any diff. Keep up the great work.
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Callin' wrote:
the first one doesn't count I don;t think. the runs have to be 30 minutes long


Nope there is a wuss clause for up to two times a week, a 15 min followed the next day with a 45 or longer gets averaged for the two days.

Do you use the wuss clause during double run days....ie run 30 in the morning, 15 at night, 45 next day and combine the 15 and 45 for 2 runs, therefore 3 total ?
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h2ofun wrote:
Callin' wrote:
the first one doesn't count I don;t think. the runs have to be 30 minutes long


Nope there is a wuss clause for up to two times a week, a 15 min followed the next day with a 45 or longer gets averaged for the two days.


Do you use the wuss clause during double run days....ie run 30 in the morning, 15 at night, 45 next day and combine the 15 and 45 for 2 runs, therefore 3 total ?

I do not see why not.

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marcag wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Callin' wrote:
the first one doesn't count I don;t think. the runs have to be 30 minutes long


Nope there is a wuss clause for up to two times a week, a 15 min followed the next day with a 45 or longer gets averaged for the two days.


Do you use the wuss clause during double run days....ie run 30 in the morning, 15 at night, 45 next day and combine the 15 and 45 for 2 runs, therefore 3 total ?


I do not see why not.

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h2ofun wrote:
marcag wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Callin' wrote:
the first one doesn't count I don;t think. the runs have to be 30 minutes long


Nope there is a wuss clause for up to two times a week, a 15 min followed the next day with a 45 or longer gets averaged for the two days.


Do you use the wuss clause during double run days....ie run 30 in the morning, 15 at night, 45 next day and combine the 15 and 45 for 2 runs, therefore 3 total ?


I do not see why not.


The rules are not clear here.
Dev could confirm but it does go against the reason the wuss clause was put (IMO)
The wuss clause was put in to have super easy days but some have used it to artificially bolster their run count
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Seems pretty clear to me, from the very first post regarding rules:

New in 2015-16 was an allowance for 2x per week minimum run of 15 minutes which must be followed up by 45 run the next day. A 15 min run earlier in the day, followed by a 45 min run later in the day does not count for 2 runs in that day, it still counts as the usual 1 run of 60 minutes. The reason for this is that the minimum on 2 days per week of 15 min run is being instituted to assist people in not over doing mileage on days when perhaps a short jog or transition run off the bike or swim is all they should really be doing in the context of an overall triathlon program"
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Well, I started my challenge early on Halloween, but I'm going to have to end the consecutive day part of the challenge at 72 after getting blistered so badly that now it hurts to even stand up after I ran sock-less when I forgot to pack socks for my lunchtime run yesterday.

I've struggled with a hamstring injury off an on over the past two years. I'm unsure how much faster I am right now, but I was surprised how much easier running got and in-tune with my run form I became after so many consecutive days and just running easy or short strides/hills.
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How is everyone getting on? Any interesting stories...?

For me, I'm definitely not in contention to get the 100/100 as have missed about 5/6 so far but did my first double yesterday and felt absurdly good on my 10 miler this morning.

Haven't felt this strong in my running ever before and am going to bite the bullet and enter my maiden marathon this week (for Dec 2017, trail race with 5000ft of elevation gain).

Thanks for the challenge and continued good luck to all taking part.


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the first one doesn't count I don;t think. the runs have to be 30 minutes long


Nope there is a wuss clause for up to two times a week, a 15 min followed the next day with a 45 or longer gets averaged for the two days.


Do you use the wuss clause during double run days....ie run 30 in the morning, 15 at night, 45 next day and combine the 15 and 45 for 2 runs, therefore 3 total ?


I do not see why not.



The rules are not clear here.
Dev could confirm but it does go against the reason the wuss clause was put (IMO)
The wuss clause was put in to have super easy days but some have used it to artificially bolster their run count


No, you can only add times for runs WITHIN a single day to get over 30 minutes outside of the wussification clause. But once you are over 30 minutes for multiple runs, you can't allocate one of the multiple physical runs from day one to push you over the 30 min threshold for day 2 on the wussification 2015/16 clause. That was added so that if you did a longer run on a given day, you could subtract 15 minutes from that longer run and add it to tomorrow's run to get yourself over the limit. It's not there so you can log multiple runs today and then tomorrow move 15 minutes over to tomorrow to get one more run tomorrow.
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So using actual examples

  1. 15 min + 15 min today = 1 run today
  2. 45 min + 15 min today = 1 run today (the idea here is if you are doing a longer day, then go all out and do 30 min on the second one, or combine them to get credit for the time and distance)
  3. 30 min + 30 min today = 2 runs today (you went out twice with at least 60 min in between. The reality is that doing 30+30 is kind of harder than 45+15 because 30-45 is not a big stretch on run number 1, but on run number 2 when you really don't feel like running 30 minutes is a lot harder than 15)
  4. 30 min + 45 min today = 2 run today (you covered over 30 min per run, kudos to you)
  5. 45 min run today = 1 run today


Now moving to the next day

  • If you take item 1 and do 15 min today, you get credit for zero runs today
  • If you take item 2 and do 15 min today, you get credit for zero runs today since they were combined into a longer vrtual run yesterday.
  • If you take item 3 and do 15 minutes you get zero credit, for another run today since you got credit for 2 runs yesterday
  • If you take item 4 and do 15 min, you get zero credit for another run today since you got credit for 2 runs yesterday
  • If you take item 5 and do 15 min, then you get credit for 2 runs...one yesterday, one today, each 30 min entered into the log



This may "seem" a bit arbitrary, but the only reason we added the wussification rule was to get people out for a short run the day after longer running (for them). If you already ran long enough yesterday, then you did, and you don't need the help of the wussification rule to get "run count up".


At the end of the day, "run count" is bogus. What matters is overall training load and distance/hours done. Run count is only a tool to get to more distance/hours. Every year we have people who miss the forest from the trees and get overly focused on run count rather than overall distance/hours. Frequency is just a stupid tool. It's not the end game in terms of getting fit. But I can't help it when people get stupidly competitive about the wrong thing just because that 'appears' to be what you're measured on. It's like focusing on market share and going nuts trying to artificially jack up market share, when in reality, its more important to focus on the key accounts that will jack up revenue/profitability. Market share is just an enabler to get there....its a subservient metric to the end game.


Just because I/WE set the subservient metric of run count to get you guys going, please don't lose sight that the main metric is hours/distance (I used hours/distance interchangeably, since hours running on snow on ice could very well be worth a lot more from a physiological loading standpoint vs running on dry pavement in shorts).


On a completely different note, I ran every day this week....slow, but still jogging on the treadmill 30ish minutes per day. I even got up at 5 am to do one before an early morning flight. Saturday, I did a double jog. It was getting too much fun, so today, no jogging, and made sure that my longest swim of the week was longer than my longer runs (6.5K swim). I would like to try to hit 5 runs per week for the challenge if this keeps up and gradually make a few longer. I'll be better off doing that, since the first 5-10 min of each run is lot of warmup/shuffle overhead that's lower value in terms of my rehab


Dev


PS. Sorry I did not check this thread.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [jac2689] [ In reply to ]
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How is everyone getting on? Any interesting stories...?

For me, I'm definitely not in contention to get the 100/100 as have missed about 5/6 so far but did my first double yesterday and felt absurdly good on my 10 miler this morning.

Haven't felt this strong in my running ever before and am going to bite the bullet and enter my maiden marathon this week (for Dec 2017, trail race with 5000ft of elevation gain).

Thanks for the challenge and continued good luck to all taking part.

All the best for your maiden marathon jac2689! As for me, I also do enjoy the challenge as I def. run more (frequently) than before. To make the best out of this "nonsense" challenge, I decided to put into action what has been on my mind for a while. A ~1,000 km cross country run in Germany (north to south, from Flensburg to the Zugspitze) this July. I hope this 100/100 will be a good trainings-base for it.
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jac2689 wrote:
How is everyone getting on? Any interesting stories...?

For me, I'm definitely not in contention to get the 100/100 as have missed about 5/6 so far but did my first double yesterday and felt absurdly good on my 10 miler this morning.

Haven't felt this strong in my running ever before and am going to bite the bullet and enter my maiden marathon this week (for Dec 2017, trail race with 5000ft of elevation gain).

Thanks for the challenge and continued good luck to all taking part.


All the best for your maiden marathon jac2689! As for me, I also do enjoy the challenge as I def. run more (frequently) than before. To make the best out of this "nonsense" challenge, I decided to put into action what has been on my mind for a while. A ~1,000 km cross country run in Germany (north to south, from Flensburg to the Zugspitze) this July. I hope this 100/100 will be a good trainings-base for it.

Did I read this correctly...finish line at the top of Zugspitz on the border with Austria?


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How is everyone getting on? Any interesting stories...?

I checked out this thread just to post on my "interesting story"! Backstory: I have been a very inconsistent runner my entire "tri career", so joined the 100/100 challenge to work on running. I actually started following a Barry P plan in early October, dropped down to running 3-4 times a week in November/December (holiday craziness), and have been trying to get back up to 5-6 days a week since early January. Almost all easy/slow running, with one group track workout per week. I've averaged about 20 miles a week for October 1 through now, with most weeks being in the mid-to-low 20's. Gunning to get up to ~30-35 miles per week, but it hasn't happened yet.

My "interesting story": I ran a half marathon yesterday, and had a 12 minute PR!!! Now mind you, I went from 1:59 to 1:47, so it's not like I have blazing speed, but still, that is a huge improvement! A year ago - hell, 6 months ago - I could not have fathomed running a half marathon at a just over 8-minute mile pace. I don't know that I could have run a 5k at that pace. (Surprise at my time is extra true of yesterday, since i've been fighting off a cold for the last 3 days and have felt very lethargic and generally crappy). Most surprisingly, my legs feel great today, barely any soreness.

I'm not sure where to go from here. I'm curious about how much faster I can get by concentrating on easy running frequency. My first tri is St. George in early May, so I really need to start riding a lot more. Haven't figured out how to balance those things with time constraints/job/kids/etc.
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Did I read this correctly...finish line at the top of Zugspitz on the border with Austria?
Yes, but there are hiking routes up there, so nothing too technical. The "high"light of the run in all aspects :)
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Jwizzle] [ In reply to ]
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"I'm curious about how much faster I can get by concentrating on easy running frequency"

Jwizzle,

I'd want to make a suggestion and it causes somewhat of a semantic tweak - I'm suggesting that you continue with the easy running frequency but "concentrate" on 2 or 3 form changes while running those easy runs. The idea being that you'll pop out the other side of this streak by making permanent improvements in your run technique that will open you up to greater speed in the future and less injuries. Now, all of this presupposes that a) you are not a perfect runner now and that's not really fair so I want to apologize for that right off the bat, and b) that you buy into the idea that technique matters.


My thinking is that you'd work with a coach for just one hour and walk away with 2 or 3 prioritized fixes that you could be mindful of while running the rest of the streak.


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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [ianpeace] [ In reply to ]
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Ian, thanks for the input. Three things about me to put 1:47 into perspective: (1) i'm a woman (2) pushing 40 (3) with two young kids. My form is decent - I have decent cadence (usually average ~175), good running posture, although a slight tendency to overstride. I have a very dodgy hip from dislocating it as a teenager, so I don't have great hip mobility, which limits my speed to some extent. This all being said, I agree that technique is important. My weekly track workout is with a coach, and it's a small group of us (2-6 people), so there is a good amount of one-on-one time addressing form pointers. My biggest weakness is conditioning, so the consistent short, easy runs have probably been the best running investment I could make.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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unlocked serratus posterior today, big breakthrough, heel sinks effortlessly. Now for some building :>
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Any chance we can extend this for 2 days?
Honestly, I'll only get to 30 to 50 days- but; I am doing a half marathon on 3-26 and that one extra would just be icing on my well below bronze cake.
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unlocked serratus posterior today, big breakthrough, heel sinks effortlessly. Now for some building :>

Wow that is huge...I am struggling to dorsiflex and get the relaxed heal to toe movement but it is coming. This is 1000% better than back in Aug/Sep when walking was very hit and miss and was waiting for the cortisone injection in my disc. This week was on a business trip and swam every morning 4000-5300m and in the evening was on the hotel treadmill with my vibrams running 35-50 minutes. Definitely a win.

I don't have any pictures yet to post on this thread because all the runs have been on the treadmill. If I get out on snowshoes this weekend when I get back home, will post for sure!

Dev
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kiki wrote:
unlocked serratus posterior today, big breakthrough, heel sinks effortlessly. Now for some building :>


Wow that is huge...I am struggling to dorsiflex and get the relaxed heal to toe movement but it is coming. This is 1000% better than back in Aug/Sep when walking was very hit and miss and was waiting for the cortisone injection in my disc. This week was on a business trip and swam every morning 4000-5300m and in the evening was on the hotel treadmill with my vibrams running 35-50 minutes. Definitely a win.

I don't have any pictures yet to post on this thread because all the runs have been on the treadmill. If I get out on snowshoes this weekend when I get back home, will post for sure!

Dev

Is that a new Woodway you're running on now? How's that working out? I'm jealous! (I still love my Sole F80 though, despite having to just had to spend $400 to replace the entire console after it died out of warrantee.)
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lightheir wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
kiki wrote:
unlocked serratus posterior today, big breakthrough, heel sinks effortlessly. Now for some building :>


Wow that is huge...I am struggling to dorsiflex and get the relaxed heal to toe movement but it is coming. This is 1000% better than back in Aug/Sep when walking was very hit and miss and was waiting for the cortisone injection in my disc. This week was on a business trip and swam every morning 4000-5300m and in the evening was on the hotel treadmill with my vibrams running 35-50 minutes. Definitely a win.

I don't have any pictures yet to post on this thread because all the runs have been on the treadmill. If I get out on snowshoes this weekend when I get back home, will post for sure!

Dev


Is that a new Woodway you're running on now? How's that working out? I'm jealous! (I still love my Sole F80 though, despite having to just had to spend $400 to replace the entire console after it died out of warrantee.)

The new Woodway arrives on Tuesday....I can't wait!!!! My shuffling is going steady. My cardio is awesome from last year's 1200K year of swimming so I really have to hold myself back from doing stupid things trying to run too fast too soon. But I am pretty well jogging 5-7 times per week now for the bare minimum of 30 min most of the time. Most of the time with Vibrams since I have more coordination with them, otherwise with my NB Minimus trail with Correct Toes spacers inside to keep the toes splayed.

OK you guys...we're closing in on Day 40 and I only see ~40 of you on 100/100 pace. By now you should be feeling in a groove and can probably step it up. I think I have a shot at 80x 30-40 min for this year if I don't do totally stupid things.
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OK, 38 days in, and I'm still on the wagon! - And about 10lbs lighter!

Is there any place where previous years 100/100 logs/results are posted?
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OK, 38 days in, and I'm still on the wagon! - And about 10lbs lighter!

Is there any place where previous years 100/100 logs/results are posted?

Good for you. I am just winging it.
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nickwhite wrote:
OK, 38 days in, and I'm still on the wagon! - And about 10lbs lighter!

Is there any place where previous years 100/100 logs/results are posted?


Good for you. I am just winging it.

Either that, or just stalking me.
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JMike wrote:
nickwhite wrote:
OK, 38 days in, and I'm still on the wagon! - And about 10lbs lighter!

Is there any place where previous years 100/100 logs/results are posted?


Good for you. I am just winging it.

Either that, or just stalking me.

We can discuss at HFFA tomorrow morning, see you there
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I'm 40/40 but I don't think I'm really any lighter, or faster, however I don't really need walk breaks at all anymore, and I really used to look forward to 30 sec every ten minutes or so. Trying to consciously stay slow and keep a lid on HR most runs, deliberately trying to build base and ignoring the creeping feeling that I need to start doing speed work again!
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OK, 38 days in, and I'm still on the wagon! - And about 10lbs lighter!

Is there any place where previous years 100/100 logs/results are posted?

I haven't converted historical challenges, but I could.

-Eric
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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Just a general reply to the thread.


Today marks my 100th day of running in a row of at least 30 minutes. In that time I've managed to run 976km. I'm hoping to make it to the end of the challenge as a streak, but I'm willing to take a day off if I need to.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Habs4ever] [ In reply to ]
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Nice work. Ever done this before? Any positive results to report?
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [MVM] [ In reply to ]
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MVM wrote:
Nice work. Ever done this before? Any positive results to report?
This is officially my 6th year with the challenge with 3 (?) being done as a streak. I did do it unofficially in 2010-2011 and managed a run streak of >200 days. I'm not a triathlete, strictly a runner who was directed to this sight specifically for the 100/100 challenge back in 2010.
As far as positive results go, I'd have to say yes personally, but as of interest to others the answer would be no. I'm a mid 50's woman who loves running and this challenge is always a way to fuel my passion.
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42/42 as of today with an average just above 5 miles per run. I missed 1 day due to illness but doubled up one of my runs that same week to cover the missed day. Coach and I are just working in easy 30 minute runs in between my normal weekly scheduled runs. I feel like the runs are starting to come easier now, whereas days 20-30 were a little harder to get out the door for. This past weekend I ran a half marathon and PR'd by over a minute. I also negative split the back half of the course (which I NEVER do). I am really looking forward to seeing how this plays out at the end. The challenge ends 1 week out from my first HIM of the year, so should be perfect timing to taper down to the race.
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Finally 100 runs done in 46 days, with 500miles at a somewhat pathetic pace. With no rest day yet, the legs (or mind) refuse to run at normal pace. Anyway, each run contributes $20 to a charity (http://mariacristinafoundation.org/en/donate-2/), so all worth it.
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Finally 100 runs done in 46 days, with 500miles at a somewhat pathetic pace. With no rest day yet, the legs (or mind) refuse to run at normal pace. Anyway, each run contributes $20 to a charity (http://mariacristinafoundation.org/en/donate-2/), so all worth it.

That is fantastic. This may be a record in terms of duration to get to 100. Kind of like Wayne Gretzky's 50 goals in 39 games when the previous gold standard was 50/50! When is the cross Germany run and is there a charity for that. Maybe we can get Slowman to do an article on it.

Starting the challenge I was not planning to run much at all. Now I think I can get to 80 or even 90. I'm at 38/46.

I have had some really good progress with my nerve/disc related motor control and have gone from a really slow shuffle (I am talking like barely faster than walking....3.6 to 4.2 mph range at the start of the challenge) to slow jogging (4.5 to 5 mph pace) to jogging (6 mph pace). Now once I get warmed up, I am generally jogging at 5.5 to 6 mph and doing "intervals" at 7 mph. My foot drop with my left leg is getting lesser and I am able to dorsiflex a bit better and have a much stronger push off. I have caught myself getting carried away too many times and ratcheting up the treadmill passed 8 mph which I realize that I should not do since my cardio can write cheques that my legs probably cannot yet cash given that I am not totally running symmetrically yet. I have better coordination on uphill so there is a lot of running at 5-15% grade going on too

I am trying to focus every run on technique and rehab and not speed, but it's hard not to get carried away with chasing numbers on the screen. When you spent pretty well every year from age 6 to age 50 chasing speed and numbers and then have a year off and get back into it, well, it's really hard not to go back to the old mentality.

I got a second hand Woodwaytreadmill (taxes, shipped and installed in my basement for $3000 CAD) around a week ago and that thing is a god send. The deck gives more than a normal treadmill....the problem is I cannot wear cushy shoes, since I don't have full feeling in my left foot yet. If I wear vibrams, my coordination is almost right and gait fairly symmetrical, but I don't want to run too fast in them. If I wear really firm shoes, it's almost as good as vibrams. I got a pair of these Nike Flex which seem to be a happy medium....I would be happier if the toe box was a bit wider and more roomy, but so far they seem to be OK.

Honestly I have to say that a few times this last few weeks I started thinking I could get to 100/100, but then I am losing sight of rehab. In the last 24 hours I logged a 22 min jog late last night, a 30 min "harder run" this morning before swimming and another 20 min decently hard run after swimming. I was tempted to make each of the 20ish minute runs 30 minutes as that would be easy to do, but I thought the "harder thing to do" was to have the discipline to but them off and not chase the spreadsheet and focus on form. So I got one run out of 70 min of aggregate. It was the right thing to do, but the hard thing to do.

I think 80/100 should be possible if I stay disciplined. 90/100 would be in reach at the rate I am going. This is all really exciting.


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I think 80/100 should be possible if I stay disciplined. 90/100 would be in reach at the rate I am going. This is all really exciting.
Go for 88 Paul, that is a very lucky number here in Asia. All the best!

As for Run across Germany,..still finalising the date with my support crew, likely mid July.
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devashish_paul wrote:

I think 80/100 should be possible if I stay disciplined. 90/100 would be in reach at the rate I am going. This is all really exciting.

Go for 88 Paul, that is a very lucky number here in Asia. All the best!

As for Run across Germany,..still finalising the date with my support crew, likely mid July.

Two more days till hump day (day 50).

Mandai, are you going to be the first ever to hit 200/100 ???? Keep it up.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev - have you tried motion control shoes?

I've been marathon training since Nov and had to upgrade my very old running shoes, as they finally got so old that my feet were literally tilting outwards due to the outer sole wear and I was getting outer foot pain worrisome for a stress fracture.

I got the Brooks Transcend 3 motion control shoe, and no joke - they almost immediately relieved all my stress fracture worries and achilles tendon strain worries. They're a motion control shoe, so not light, but compared to neutral shoes you definitely feel it track better when you're really fatigued and would otherwise have less accurate landings which can predispose to injury.

I have wide and super-flat feet - I need a wide toebox, and it sounds like you do to. I can run in pretty much anything as a lower mileage triathlete, but at the 70+mpw with a lot of quality, I'm finding the motion control shoes very worthwhile.

Might be worth considering since sounds like you've had your fair share of run injury problems - I know for sure if I were running on things like Vibrams or other low-padded shoes, no way could I maintain 70+mpw with plenty of fast work in there.
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Dev - have you tried motion control shoes?

I've been marathon training since Nov and had to upgrade my very old running shoes, as they finally got so old that my feet were literally tilting outwards due to the outer sole wear and I was getting outer foot pain worrisome for a stress fracture.

I got the Brooks Transcend 3 motion control shoe, and no joke - they almost immediately relieved all my stress fracture worries and achilles tendon strain worries. They're a motion control shoe, so not light, but compared to neutral shoes you definitely feel it track better when you're really fatigued and would otherwise have less accurate landings which can predispose to injury.

I have wide and super-flat feet - I need a wide toebox, and it sounds like you do to. I can run in pretty much anything as a lower mileage triathlete, but at the 70+mpw with a lot of quality, I'm finding the motion control shoes very worthwhile.

Might be worth considering since sounds like you've had your fair share of run injury problems - I know for sure if I were running on things like Vibrams or other low-padded shoes, no way could I maintain 70+mpw with plenty of fast work in there.

Hey thanks for the input. Actually with the nerve compression in my back there is a loss of feeling in my left lower leg. Imagine the diff between bare hands, gloves and mittens while typing (or doing anything moderately demanding that needs digital dexterity). The less I have on my feet, the better the connection up to my brain since the nerves are not feeding the full signal up and down efficiently. This is essentially my problem right now.....my mileage and general pace is so slow that low padded shoes are OK. I don't think I will ever run higher volume anyway (I guess I should never say never, less than a year ago, I had a neurologist telling me I'll never walk again without anti spasticity drugs and so far I am on the path to disprove him). Another neurologist diagnosed other causes, which I believe are right (disk damage, nerve compression, previous crash scar tissue all working against me). In any case for now "less is more" (all of less volume, less intensity, and less material on my feet). On todays treadmill run, I actually cycled through 4 different sets of footwear while running at 10-11 kph and the best coordination was in the hardest firmest padding (vibrams)....the Nike Flex's above were second best....next was my NB Minimus Trail. Last was Brooks Pure Connect.......just too soft.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Didn't see this thread til now. As of this morning I think i'm at 61 runs since 15 December? Think that puts me on pace for like 130ish runs and like 1000+ miles? Winter volume has been very steady and consistent and I have also been lucky enough to take four days off since the challenge started. Feeling very healthy and strong. First races are just a few weeks away.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm at 62 runs through 49 days and feeling strong despite some nagging sinus issues that have been hanging around since new year's and caused me to miss some days. I have a trail half marathon on Sat and I think I'll take tomorrow and Friday off with only some easy spinning on a spin bike. I feel like doing Sat's race on fresh legs - usually don't take much time off before a race so I thought I'd try something new.

Good luck Dev on your quest for 80 runs (or even 90). It's good to see that you can run again.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [TheKoz] [ In reply to ]
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Running 62 times and you're swimming/biking...dear god.

Good luck at the half.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [justarunner] [ In reply to ]
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I am mostly just running now. I suffered through 2 years of low back/hip/it band, etc, etc injuries after my last tri - a half - and never went back. So now I just run with occasional rides or spin class and no swimming but I still follow along here and use the tracker and I try to do the 100/100 challenge when healthy.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [TheKoz] [ In reply to ]
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We're at

DAY 50
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I celebrated our mid point by taking the day off!

And today I got back into it with a magical run! I was teaching bike fit school at the mother ship and woke up at the desert compound HQ of Slowtwitch. It was snowing the mountains to the south, raining lightly above me and I was running into a rising sun in the blue to the east. A simply magical moment in the streak - one of many for all of us I'm sure.

Just so grateful to be moving and improving.

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I celebrated our mid point by taking the day off!

And today I got back into it with a magical run! I was teaching bike fit school at the mother ship and woke up at the desert compound HQ of Slowtwitch. It was snowing the mountains to the south, raining lightly above me and I was running into a rising sun in the blue to the east. A simply magical moment in the streak - one of many for all of us I'm sure.

Just so grateful to be moving and improving.

Ian

OK you were at the ST Starship Enterprise zone and you did not flog slowman to come out and join you for the birthday set workout that he seems to be very stealth about?????? Please post pics from some of your runs!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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great run today despite finding a bunny hole the hard way early on

an affirmative heel strike on bad leg has worked wonders this past week -- hip is coming online now with much greater stability.

Am a total convert to improvement through increments!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [kiki] [ In reply to ]
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ugh.. i almost missed a day but went for bare minumum 15 min. caught a bad stomach virus. can eat. one week after having the flu.til ran/jogged everyday so far
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Ughh, my legs are tired! As of yesterday I was at 64 runs/61 days--best I've ever done on the challenge. All of it done at a slow plod as I focus on consistency, not speed, and year four of a back injury recovery.

Dev, congrats on the progress. I know where you're coming from, and how challenging it can be. Thanks for sticking with the challenge in spite of it all.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Tri3] [ In reply to ]
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Hey, guys, relatively good news. As of tonite I should be at 59/62. When we started the challenge I was unsure I would get to even 1 real proper run due to a 15 month long disk/spine/nerve injury. I had been making progress in October and November after a cortisone shot, but walking was still very tough...jogging/shuffling was equally bad.... but the "magic" happened when the snow came. I got out on snowshoes and did a combo or walk-run using poles to drive my legs since my upper body works fine....the legs followed the orders of my arms and since the snow was soft, the nerve compression was less of an issue. As time went on, my range of motion got better and better.

Imagine keeping your hand tense in a fist for 15 months and then being asked to open it....it's going to keep going back to closed....that with the scenario with my lumbar spine-pelvia-psoas-femus complex. As I did more snowshoe runs, I also got better and better at treadmill runs...initially I could barely shuffle at 4.5 mph without leg spasms and having to stop and stretch. Then I got up to 4.8, then 5, then 5.5, then 6 mph. Now I am going along at 5.5 to 7.5 mph in general from zero to 15% grade. The steeper it is, the easier actually from a coordination perspective....but harder aerobically and also need to be careful for the achilles....but I feel like I am less tense and running better. I have also graduated to a few outdoor runs on pavement (short ones....generally 15-20 min after doing 15-20 min on the treadmill warmup).


I am close to 100/100 pace but many of those runs are snowshoe runs. They are super duper hard aerobically and I am running the entire time, but I still "feel" like it is not the same as hard core on pavement, but as I said around 8 years ago to someone who asked if they could count snowshoe running, I said, "Well if you want to penalize yourself by adding massive weights to your feet and then run on quicksand, as long as you take flight on every stride, then you can count them". Still I feel personally that although aerobically harder and tougher on the hip flexors and hamstrings and glutes, it is easier on the quads, so it's not "quite" like real running, but I suppose it is no worse than those regular runs in knee deep snow on a snowstorm day that I used to count, except this time I have weights on my legs.

I think I can get to 100/100 with the snowshoe running + real running. Hey, I'm just trying to win a competition with myself. I did the first 100/100 in 2006 basically doing a competition wiith myself and EH and Jana joined in virtually. So this is a new challenge for myself. If I can get to 100/100 with around 20 snowshoe sessions and that makes my other 80 real runs viable, then fine. In my heart I know that I did 80 real runs and 20 snowshoe sessions and without the latter I would have never gotten to the former.....The snowshoe running is like range of motion and coordination physio for my real running.
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great run today despite finding a bunny hole the hard way early on

an affirmative heel strike on bad leg has worked wonders this past week -- hip is coming online now with much greater stability.

Am a total convert to improvement through increments!

Hi Kiki, I would like to share that 2 items have helped my foot drop/spasms and motion control. One is snowshoing....that appendage at the bottom of my foot forces the tibial nerve/muscle to engage. Second has been doing sit ups with my toes tucked under the couch and pulling up hard with my tibia at the same moment that the psoas engages.....basically trying to drive the connection between the two muscles and the big toe on the dorsiflex motion. I have also noticed that when I water run in the pool it's going better. I'm on the 1000 days of incremental improvement plan. My neurologist feels all this can be defeated in 18 months but to not expect magic fast. Also my jogging on the Woodway curve is better, but I can't quite dorsiflex fast enough for a good solid heel strike heel to toe action.....funny thing is the faster I go the better it gets....at low speed not bad...at fast speed when the leg swings through and there is a big push off from the other leg, not bad....mid range is where all the worst compensation is at. I put a mirror up in front of my treadmill at home to be able to watch my foot and try to force it into a correct orientation. It takes the mental energy of a soccer penalty kick on each stride on some days.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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yes yes yes, it's getting the psoas to stop stabilising and synch up with the movement pattern

my heel started dropping more or less reliably, and effortlessly again once I (accidentally) relaxed a muscle below and medial to the scapula. It seems bonkers that it would be so high but that did the trick.

Holding head of femur in very light external rotation has also been key to better foot strike. Getting to first causes, i'm now wondering if all this started with entraining a clockwise rotation of femur to lock acetabulum into socket for the strike rather than a (proper) counterclockwise rotation.

the problems you describe with midrange mirror exactly my problems on the bike. I can spin at high rev reliably, and I can haul a pedal around in a big gear, but the midrange still flummoxes me. Probably because momentum and gravity can't help, it's pure strength. I'll keep talking to the psoas, and try the sit-ups, that's a great tip!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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It's Feb 17 and I'm pretty sure we're at day 65.

I run perhaps half of my runs from my home/office. The majority of that run is in the Santa Ynez Canyon, a single track trail in the Santa Monica Mountains. I wanted to pay homage to this run in our 100/100 thread today.

There are some nooks of nature even in the brutal, endless pavement of Los Angeles

Zooming in a bit....


It's a very unusual wet winter here, it's raining now and we're supposed to get 5 inches (12.5cm) of rain today in LA today. The local news orgs have been hyping that to death year "STORM WATCH 2017!!!". Last night I wanted to sneak in one more quick run in the canyon because there's a creek to cross ~8 times and it'll be so flooded that I won't be able to cross dancing on the rocks like I do now.

Here's one of the crossings...


Here's another...


I've been running this canyon for over a decade and it is typically dry, brown, sandy - just desert. It's such a joy to run through the loamy smell of damp earth. I grew up in Colorado and miss that lush smell that we had in the monsoon summers in the Rockies.


Really enjoying the streak and I don't want it to end in 35 days.

Ian

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [ianpeace] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, we are on day 65....unfortunately I am gonna drop a bit this weekend. I got through run 69 this AM, but have been fighting some L heel pain the last couple of weeks. Pretty much identical to the pain in my right foot in November, which my podiatrist said was a nerve entrapment. A shot of cortisone fixed it.

Saw same podiatrist today, diagnosed same issue. Ultrasound showed the inflammation along the nerve so I got a cortisone shot. No running for the weekend....which sucks because it is gonna be in the 60's here in Chicago for the next 4 days. Ugh...

So I'm gonna drop to only being 2 runs up vs. # of days, but hopefully this fixes the issue and I am good to go for the rest of the challenge.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Am I the only one having issues with the Training Log? Can't access it.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [thugbuster] [ In reply to ]
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Ditto
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [tmarcus1076] [ In reply to ]
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yep. so. no log... did i actually run? (I did. it shouldn't matter that I can't log it, but I miss entering something and seeing the results!)

:-)
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [thugbuster] [ In reply to ]
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Ditto. First tried earlier this afternoon and again this eve with the same results.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [gym] [ In reply to ]
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No bueno. Can't log on or get to log. You are not alone. But... are we all alone together? That would be down right tragic. #milesAreNotLost #onlyFound

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [SLOgoing] [ In reply to ]
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have adopted a Dickensian pen and paper approach
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Power13] [ In reply to ]
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Power13 wrote:
Yes, we are on day 65....unfortunately I am gonna drop a bit this weekend. I got through run 69 this AM, but have been fighting some L heel pain the last couple of weeks. Pretty much identical to the pain in my right foot in November, which my podiatrist said was a nerve entrapment. A shot of cortisone fixed it.

Saw same podiatrist today, diagnosed same issue. Ultrasound showed the inflammation along the nerve so I got a cortisone shot. No running for the weekend....which sucks because it is gonna be in the 60's here in Chicago for the next 4 days. Ugh...

So I'm gonna drop to only being 2 runs up vs. # of days, but hopefully this fixes the issue and I am good to go for the rest of the challenge.


Hey can you share details of your cortisone shot in your foot. Was it in the tarsel tunnel? In any case, I am going to take today off from running. I had a bunch of days last week with snowshoe run at one point in the day and treadmill jog the other part of the day. It did not seem like much at the time, but my legs are pretty heavy. On top of that, I swam every day. Not sure why, other than I was enjoying it all since I have no reason to train other than for the sake of training.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Hey dev...the injection was to my left lateral calcaneal nerve. The pain was on the the bottom of my left heel, but towards the outside, nit directly underneath the heel. Based on how the pain presented itself, the doc did not feel it was PF. He did an ultrasound and was able to follow the nerve and identity some inflation around it.

I had the same issue on my right side in late November and the cortisone seemed to resolve it. I tend to supinate when I run and we feel that may be part of the issue...combined with overall run volume.

Ran this AM for 30 minutes...still some residual discomfort, but nowhere near what it was before the shot. I seem to recall it being similar on my right side as well, so I am cautiously optimistic. Going to a second 30' run this afternoon to "get one back". Wink

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [konaboysteve] [ In reply to ]
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konaboysteve wrote:
Ditto. First tried earlier this afternoon and again this eve with the same results.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for all your efforts Eric!
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Power13 wrote:
Hey dev...the injection was to my left lateral calcaneal nerve. The pain was on the the bottom of my left heel, but towards the outside, nit directly underneath the heel. Based on how the pain presented itself, the doc did not feel it was PF. He did an ultrasound and was able to follow the nerve and identity some inflation around it.

I had the same issue on my right side in late November and the cortisone seemed to resolve it. I tend to supinate when I run and we feel that may be part of the issue...combined with overall run volume.

Ran this AM for 30 minutes...still some residual discomfort, but nowhere near what it was before the shot. I seem to recall it being similar on my right side as well, so I am cautiously optimistic. Going to a second 30' run this afternoon to "get one back". Wink

Wow are things coming along?

Over here, I got up to 100/100 rate recently with all the recent snow we had and doing soft impact snowshoe running (cardio through the roof, easy on the joints......6-8 kph is generally the speed!!!) and I was supplementing with real running. It really was awesome. But with the big melt down this week, I took Monday off running to intentionally fall behind "pace". Its too addictive to be on "pave", but I still jogged every day the rest of the week. I am thinking that I should take another day "off" running today and stick to the pool and keep the big picture in mind. Last year at this time I could not walk across the room to get a coffee without crutches, so probably better to remember where I came from rather than get too excited about where things are going.

One of the nice things about running so "slow" for me is that with all my swimming my cardio is in great shape. My heart can deliver a ton of oxygen to the legs, way beyond what the legs can tax my heart, so the outcome is those working muscles while running are fully saturated with a good oxygen supply, meaning they are always working in a low workzone range so I am never sore or in any pain after runs. Hmmmmm maybe that's what I should be doing anyway!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Hello Fellow 100/100 runners.
Well today my Mom lost her fight with lung disease at age 90 and being on a oxygen generator for the last 2 1/2 years. We made it though some tough stuff. She stayed here in her home until the last hour. This run challenge has really help me get through some not so fun parts of life. Thanks for the diversion and keeping me on the run for last 76 days. Early mornings, late at night often in pouring rain in one of the wettest years here in California I've plodded on. I've gone from 200 lbs down to 180.1 lbs and always checking my stubborn scale after every run. I hope to finish up all 100 days in my Mom's memory. Big thanks to all the Fire Fighters, EMT, Doctors, Nurses for making our world a better place...Angels among us.
Hug your loved ones!!
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Hello Fellow 100/100 runners.

Well today my Mom lost her fight with lung disease at age 90 and being on a oxygen generator for the last 2 1/2 years. We made it though some tough stuff. She stayed here in her home until the last hour. This run challenge has really help me get through some not so fun parts of life. Thanks for the diversion and keeping me on the run for last 76 days. Early mornings, late at night often in pouring rain in one of the wettest years here in California I've plodded on. I've gone from 200 lbs down to 180.1 lbs and always checking my stubborn scale after every run. I hope to finish up all 100 days in my Mom's memory. Big thanks to all the Fire Fighters, EMT, Doctors, Nurses for making our world a better place...Angels among us.
Hug your loved ones!!
-d


Hey, thanks for participating. I am guessing your mom would be happy to see you energized like this even while going through a hard part of life. Congrats on shaving it down to 180 lbs.

DAY 75,


run everyone in memory of the mom of our fellow runners. The Mitochondria genetic that makes us aerobic junkies/freaks comes from mom's side.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I had one of those amazing runs today....I didn't run until 4:20pm and I choose to head up to the fire trial the follows the mountain ridges above our home. It's crisp for LA - which means 60 deg (~15c). I had just got out of the pool after an easy 2k and was still feeling pretty warm so I went no shirt, no socks, just shorts and shoes - I even forgot my watch. I had runners high for like 20min of this 42 min run. I don't think my feet touched the ground that whole time. My mind was calm, I had a more relaxed version of Natasha Badmann's smile - phenomenal.

I want to thank you all for being in the mix on this streak. I only know a few of your personally but knowing you're hear, this community - it's what makes me start the streak, fuels the reluctant days and delivers me to runs like today. Thank you.

Ian
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [ianpeace] [ In reply to ]
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I had one of those amazing runs today....I didn't run until 4:20pm and I choose to head up to the fire trial the follows the mountain ridges above our home. It's crisp for LA - which means 60 deg (~15c). I had just got out of the pool after an easy 2k and was still feeling pretty warm so I went no shirt, no socks, just shorts and shoes - I even forgot my watch. I had runners high for like 20min of this 42 min run. I don't think my feet touched the ground that whole time. My mind was calm, I had a more relaxed version of Natasha Badmann's smile - phenomenal.

I want to thank you all for being in the mix on this streak. I only know a few of your personally but knowing you're hear, this community - it's what makes me start the streak, fuels the reluctant days and delivers me to runs like today. Thank you.

Ian

Ian, awesome, to have you on board again....now we are down to our final 3 weeks. Home stretch. I can smell the finish line and quite thankful that I have graduated from shuffling to jogging to actual running albeit largely on a treadmill where there is more cushion for my disk/nerve injury and every week things are getting a bit better and I can run outdoors slowly to "moderate" a bit more but not really much. But I THINK by end of summer, I should be able to consistently run outdoors (we'll see). This weekend, I will hit an indoor track to see if the softer surface of the track is almost as good as a treadmill.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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so today with 2 runs i hit 101 on my log. but on the challenge listing it says i only did 80... i assume when they were doing the training log website updates, for the 100 runs challenge it missed my first 20 runs...
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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I don't know the problem. I assume they are all 30 minutes each or greater? All your runs from the old log will have been pulled over, so it should not be that either. If Eric sees this I am sure he will chime in. Did you file them all as "running"? I know for me a few times, I have filed them by mistake as Road cycling (I think this is the first option on the list) and then had to edit it to show as running. There were also a few outings that I listed as Snowshoeing vs Snowshoe Running, resulting in the challenge not counting them!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
I don't know the problem. I assume they are all 30 minutes each or greater? All your runs from the old log will have been pulled over, so it should not be that either. If Eric sees this I am sure he will chime in. Did you file them all as "running"? I know for me a few times, I have filed them by mistake as Road cycling (I think this is the first option on the list) and then had to edit it to show as running. There were also a few outings that I listed as Snowshoeing vs Snowshoe Running, resulting in the challenge not counting them!

hmm perhaps my 5k's, obviously under 30 minutes were not being counted, i thought that would be irrelevant as long as total day out put equals 30 minutes you are fine. i do a 5k with another 7 or more miles some other time in the day
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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Did you follow the directions on how to input runs that have one part less than 30, and another that or the next day great than the total of two days over 60?
The spreadsheet does not do that, you have to manually enter the data in correctly. If you enter in a run less than 30, it does not count.

If you run less than 30, then longer in the day, you still only get 1 run in the day since you have to enter it as a single run. If you entered a 5 K, meaning less
than 30, then later in the day a longer greater than 30, you only get 1 run for the day.

So how did you enter data and what were you run times that you say were not counted correctly?

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Did you follow the directions on how to input runs that have one part less than 30, and another that or the next day great than the total of two days over 60?
The spreadsheet does not do that, you have to manually enter the data in correctly. If you enter in a run less than 30, it does not count.

If you run less than 30, then longer in the day, you still only get 1 run in the day since you have to enter it as a single run. If you entered a 5 K, meaning less
than 30, then later in the day a longer greater than 30, you only get 1 run for the day.

So how did you enter data and what were you run times that you say were not counted correctly?


That is annoying if true .. defeats the purpose of accurate logging, each work out varies in intensity and distance. I now feel like I wasted my time these 80 or whatever days
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h2ofun wrote:
Did you follow the directions on how to input runs that have one part less than 30, and another that or the next day great than the total of two days over 60?
The spreadsheet does not do that, you have to manually enter the data in correctly. If you enter in a run less than 30, it does not count.

If you run less than 30, then longer in the day, you still only get 1 run in the day since you have to enter it as a single run. If you entered a 5 K, meaning less
than 30, then later in the day a longer greater than 30, you only get 1 run for the day.

So how did you enter data and what were you run times that you say were not counted correctly?


That is annoying if true .. defeats the purpose of accurate logging, each work out varies in intensity and distance. I now feel like I wasted my time these 80 or whatever days

What I wrote is what the rules said from day one.

I put my "actual" stuff into Strava. I adjust, if needed, to enter via ST to meet the rules.

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h2ofun wrote:
synthetic wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Did you follow the directions on how to input runs that have one part less than 30, and another that or the next day great than the total of two days over 60?
The spreadsheet does not do that, you have to manually enter the data in correctly. If you enter in a run less than 30, it does not count.

If you run less than 30, then longer in the day, you still only get 1 run in the day since you have to enter it as a single run. If you entered a 5 K, meaning less
than 30, then later in the day a longer greater than 30, you only get 1 run for the day.

So how did you enter data and what were you run times that you say were not counted correctly?


That is annoying if true .. defeats the purpose of accurate logging, each work out varies in intensity and distance. I now feel like I wasted my time these 80 or whatever days


What I wrote is what the rules said from day one.

I put my "actual" stuff into Strava. I adjust, if needed, to enter via ST to meet the rules.

yea... i read the rules as 30 minutes need to average out every day. so 15 for one and 45 next day you are ok. im not sure i want to go back adjusting every workout to what you say needs to be done in the log. is there anything to be won here?
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synthetic wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
synthetic wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Did you follow the directions on how to input runs that have one part less than 30, and another that or the next day great than the total of two days over 60?
The spreadsheet does not do that, you have to manually enter the data in correctly. If you enter in a run less than 30, it does not count.

If you run less than 30, then longer in the day, you still only get 1 run in the day since you have to enter it as a single run. If you entered a 5 K, meaning less
than 30, then later in the day a longer greater than 30, you only get 1 run for the day.

So how did you enter data and what were you run times that you say were not counted correctly?


That is annoying if true .. defeats the purpose of accurate logging, each work out varies in intensity and distance. I now feel like I wasted my time these 80 or whatever days


What I wrote is what the rules said from day one.

I put my "actual" stuff into Strava. I adjust, if needed, to enter via ST to meet the rules.


Just ego

I gave up with that a month plus ago. Was not healthy

yea... i read the rules as 30 minutes need to average out every day. so 15 for one and 45 next day you are ok. im not sure i want to go back adjusting every workout to what you say needs to be done in the log. is there anything to be won here?

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i guess i can go back and adjust my workouts to take time off my longer run into the shorter run on the same day. but then one workout will look like 20min mile the other 2 min miles. (adjusting the distances will be a PITA too) but i guess that is ok?
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so today with 2 runs i hit 101 on my log. but on the challenge listing it says i only did 80... i assume when they were doing the training log website updates, for the 100 runs challenge it missed my first 20 runs...

Hey yeah, don't let that kind of nonsense rest! There shouldn't have been any missing workouts for anybody, and so if you want me to take a look, I can do it.

There currently is a hard 30-minute limit on them for inclusion, no matter what the rules may say, fyi :-)

Thanks,

-Eric
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yea... i read the rules as 30 minutes need to average out every day. so 15 for one and 45 next day you are ok. im not sure i want to go back adjusting every workout to what you say needs to be done in the log. is there anything to be won here?

I'm not saying it's impossible to figure this out, in other words, to write some form of aggregation logic into the challenge query, but it's currently written as basically

"give me every workout for the user in the challenge period where the workout's activity type is Running and the duration is >= 30 minutes."

to do the aggregation in one go with sql, it's quite a bit tougher, more like,

"give me every workout for the user in the challenge period where the workout's activity type is Running and the sum of the duration grouped by day is >= 30 minutes"... I think.

Or maybe I'm just an idiot and it's as easy as that. LOL :-)

Anyway, please don't feel like your time was wasted!!

-E
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i guess i can go back and adjust my workouts to take time off my longer run into the shorter run on the same day. but then one workout will look like 20min mile the other 2 min miles. (adjusting the distances will be a PITA too) but i guess that is ok?

It would have been just easier if you read the first post and entered things spread over the two days like was explained back around 15th Dec 2016. So rather than enter 15-45 you should have entered 30 + 30 (it's up to you if you want to adjust the distances too). So just go back and do it. It's not that hard to edit them and likely easier for Eric
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i guess i can go back and adjust my workouts to take time off my longer run into the shorter run on the same day. but then one workout will look like 20min mile the other 2 min miles. (adjusting the distances will be a PITA too) but i guess that is ok?


It would have been just easier if you read the first post and entered things spread over the two days like was explained back around 15th Dec 2016. So rather than enter 15-45 you should have entered 30 + 30 (it's up to you if you want to adjust the distances too). So just go back and do it. It's not that hard to edit them and likely easier for Eric

And some gave me a bad time when I was asking questions to make sure I fully understand the rules and processes, especially around this specific issue. :)

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ok ok painfully adjusted the times. the point of a log is defeated this way though... to view other people's training to learn and grow from the data, if it is accurate
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ok ok painfully adjusted the times. the point of a log is defeated this way though... to view other people's training to learn and grow from the data, if it is accurate

Yep, which is why I use strava as where I have logged what I really do each day.

You are kicking my butt now. :)

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ok ok painfully adjusted the times. the point of a log is defeated this way though... to view other people's training to learn and grow from the data, if it is accurate


You still have a comments field to see what you reallly did on that day. Your comment could be

  • 30 min ST challenge virtual run but 45 minutes actual run on the pavement
  • 30 min ST challenge virtual run but really 15 min mini run after my swim

Or the way, the log is structured, that can be the title of your workout....no need to enter a comment.


Your overall mileage for the week won't change and you'll still have captured what you did. Do you guys really go back into every workout you did at any point it time to see what it was? I just look at my overall weekly mileage. I pretty well know the hard workouts or long workouts in every sport so all the short stuff is just base building filler....the most the better, but it's all filler to build a better base. Other than that, what do I need to know? If I want I can still click on that 30 min workout to see the detail.
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Good to know timing of key workouts before a race, and some may have required more recovery, etc
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Hello 100'ers. Ran the DC Rock N Roll marathon today. Unfortunately, I didn't PR like I was hoping. Missed by about +2 minutes which kinda bums me out since I'm on target to hit 100/100 and have never put this much volume into my running. But 3 months of solid running put me 2 minutes away from a PR compared to 8 months of running that got me my PR (on a harder course though). Either way, definitely happy with my progress. Hoping to keep this consistency up through the summer season and kill some triathlons and Baltimore marathon!

Side Note: I did 15 minutes of running yesterday so I could add it to my 100/100 count since I ran way more than 45 minutes today. So I just made yesterdays run 3 miles at 30 minutes since it was just a warm up and stretch kinda run. Then I just took off 3 miles from the marathon today and adjusted my running time to reflect my actual marathon pace. That seem like the right thing to do?
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Good to know timing of key workouts before a race, and some may have required more recovery, etc

Can't you just look at the comments field to see what you really did (or put it in the title). Are you just being argumentative about this even though there is a solution to see what you really did?
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save it for next year i suppose.. i am guessing you have a script counting all the runs that are 30+. perhaps next time, it can take total time in a day, if separate runs are less than 30 minutes, but total time is 30 for every session.. it can count. So 45min in AM, 15min in PM, the script sees total 60 in one day an 2 runs.. having no remainder in the division it approves it as 2 runs for the day. Then again the threshold values can be rethought. 3 miles in 30 min is not the same as done in 15. like i said, this for next year. or perhaps a summer quick session?
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synthetic wrote:
save it for next year i suppose.. i am guessing you have a script counting all the runs that are 30+. perhaps next time, it can take total time in a day, if separate runs are less than 30 minutes, but total time is 30 for every session.. it can count. So 45min in AM, 15min in PM, the script sees total 60 in one day an 2 runs.. having no remainder in the division it approves it as 2 runs for the day. Then again the threshold values can be rethought. 3 miles in 30 min is not the same as done in 15. like i said, this for next year. or perhaps a summer quick session?

But this would only count as one 60min run.
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synthetic wrote:
save it for next year i suppose.. i am guessing you have a script counting all the runs that are 30+. perhaps next time, it can take total time in a day, if separate runs are less than 30 minutes, but total time is 30 for every session.. it can count. So 45min in AM, 15min in PM, the script sees total 60 in one day an 2 runs.. having no remainder in the division it approves it as 2 runs for the day. Then again the threshold values can be rethought. 3 miles in 30 min is not the same as done in 15. like i said, this for next year. or perhaps a summer quick session?

I hope no one counts the run like you stated since a 45 in the morning and 15 in the PM is a SINGLE run for the day of 60 minutes, NOT 2 runs for the day.
If you ran 45 one day and 15 the NEXT day, then you get credit for ONE run each day of 30 minutes not two in either day

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Did you edit your training log using this philosophy?
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Bizarre and funny run report....I've been away for 8 days and it's been a story of the best and worst hotel, mill runs.

5 days at Cannondale HQ in Norwalk, Connecticut teaching bike fit school at the Guru Academy and I stayed at the Even Hotel (locations: D.C., Omaha, NY: Mid Town, Brooklyn, Times Sq.). I urge you to stay there for biz travel in the future. GREAT gym built out with Woodway mills (the Tesla of treadmills). Had some great runs there.

Then it was straight to Detroit for the phenomenal Slowtwitch Road Show at Fraser Bikes in Canton. I ran one night at whatever chain hotel I was in. The mill was shoddy at best but the funny bit was the gym was adjacent to the pool/Jacuz area and the gym was loaded with a dozen soaking wet kids in bathing suits, age range was 8-14. Loud, slamming weight stacks, jumping across running mills, pretty much every dangerous thing you can do in the gym. Rather than be yet another white male who is a hammer for the rules I just made little instructions on safety and let 'em tear about the place. After my run I was stretching when someone came from the front desk to clear out everyone under 16 and I was alone in total peace and quite in an instant. It's was, essentially, my first mill run in a day-care facility.

Ian
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8 days to go, back on 100/100 pace with an outside shot of even getting up to 750K for the entire period.

As point of reference, at the start of the challenge I was barely able to walk from leg spasms on account of a disc/nerve issue from a fall 2015 rupture. I could barely shuffle at 4 mph on the treadmill without a spasm and having to stop to stretch. The key thing that got me going was snowshoeing and then snowshoe running on soft surface that allowed me to extend my range of motion and within a few outings I was running on snowshoes even though I could not run on pavement. From there, I went to determinstically running on treadmill...at first 5-6 mph jog, but now I seem to generally be going at 6-8 mph range. Still, running out on pavement has not been that great, but last 2 weekends I went to a soft track and even got my 400m time down to 91 seconds (so 10 mph pace) without leg spasms. I also have been working on a lot of old soccer drills on the infield which is soft astroturf that has helped and picked up a soccer ball and done a lot of ball control stuff, to use my body in all dimensions, not just linear. This seems to have really helped in terms of opening up my hips and nerves, because it also forces me back to old high school neural connections which are good ones, vs the new "bad ones".

I actually can't believe that things made so much progress over these last 92 days because the previous 500 days before that, I was literally like a cripple minimizing all motion involving my legs because it was too depressing constantly battling my own body. I still do battle my body when I am not warmed up, but once warmed up, it's getting close to old times. For now feeling blessed getting my quality of life back. I ran pretty well my entire life from 10 months old to age 50, then a year of barely walking so forget about running. While I converted myself to a bit of a dolphin (not speed, just water time), you can't beat the flexibility of running anytime you want.

Finally, buying my Woodway Desmo was probably the best $3000 CDN smoking deal I got in my life.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Woot! Fantastic.

The challenge has been great for me too -- I can hold an improvement day to day, but any longer and it begins to perish.

your snowshoeing tip is gold -- great for activating the hip cycle, and actual snowshoes (or snow) not required.

Am looking forward to my run this morning -- can we get a 200 days challenge going :> ?
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Woot! Fantastic.

The challenge has been great for me too -- I can hold an improvement day to day, but any longer and it begins to perish.

your snowshoeing tip is gold -- great for activating the hip cycle, and actual snowshoes (or snow) not required.

Am looking forward to my run this morning -- can we get a 200 days challenge going :> ?

Will keep doing snowshoeing next winter as "physio" for run technique given that there are some parts of the running technique when you have snowshoes on is very tough to do well (basically the entire recovery phase)....other parts it is more forgive (when you land and compress). Overall, I find that my running form and bad leg doriflex control keeps getting better the more I get to snowshoe.

Also working on this "camel pose" seems to have opened up my psoas and helped with finishing my push off. I am now on run 96 with 6 days of running remaining. I'd have to count out how many snowshoe runs there, are, but probably around 20, so I should hit 80 "real runs". Cardio wise the snowshoe runs are tougher, but I can recover from them almost as fast as a hard bike.


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200 runs and 1,000 miles target crossed - what a motivating challenge it was. Now retiring from the Challenge and swapping running shoes for bike shoes...
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100th run logged!

Fitness improved and injury free. Started out doing a lot of 3mi @ 10min pace and now can handle 8min pace for a while. Fun times. The challenge is very helpful. This makes two years in a row hat I've made 100/100 , and that was preceded by a few years making it past 50 but not all the way to 100. Good stuff. Now, with more hours of daylight, perhaps a little less time on the treadmill and more time in the saddle.
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Wow you guys rock. Congrats. I am at 97 runs now. Pavement running is still not great, but Woodway treadmill or track I have decent control over my bad leg. Today went to the indoor 400m track locally and ran with a good friend from our Air Force days from the early 90's. Main set was 10x400m faster with 200m jog recovery, witth a lot of drills before and afterwards. I started then at 100 seconds or so and gradually brought the speed down to 91 seconds. My friend helped me open up the tank a bit on the last one and get down to 87 seconds. One of the local coaches who I know from many years ago, said that the faster I was moving the better the form with my left leg, which corroborates with my feeling when I break through to "fast enough" to access old form with less compensation. I am positively encouraged. I think I can target running a sub 4 min 1K by the last day of the challenge, but I can't get back to the track till the day after the challenge and I probably should not risk running fast on pavement. By the way, my aerobic is really strong with all the hard swimming (any on the fish thread knows I have been doing these crazy 2x400m intervals that are 50fly-50free alternating) so my cardio can push my legs for stuff the legs are not ready for....on the other hand, my legs are well saturated with oxygen given the cardio fitness.
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Mandai wrote:
200 runs and 1,000 miles target crossed - what a motivating challenge it was. Now retiring from the Challenge and swapping running shoes for bike shoes...

looks like you won over all and by mileage. im curious as to your training and run times.. have a strava profile to share?
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I can see the finish line!

No coasting in running and no crying in baseball
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Time to start your sprint for the line..


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Time to start your sprint for the line..


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I am sitting at 99. I guess tomorrow should be a decently hard run to qualify for "sprint!!!" Whoever started this challenge I praise and curse daily (that would be mainly cursing at myself in the mirror across the treadmill for coming up with this stupidity in 2006-2007, but it looks lilk I was the recipient of both the good and bad from my own event like everyone else). It's funny because years ago, someone asked if they could snowshoe run and I replied back, "If you want to run at half the normal speed with weights attached to each leg in knee deep snow, sure go nuts as long as both feet leave the ground on each stride". I found myself enjoying this slow moving torture, but out of the total, there will be in the range of 20 of these sessions that were lung busting on the snowshoes. So it is either 80/100 or 100/100 depending on how hard core you want to get on the counting, but 80/100 is better than being on crutches all winter like last year. So that's a win.

Dev
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Sounds like 100/100 to me. Congrats!
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Time to start your sprint for the line..

34 people are still right on schedule (97 runs or more). 38 are within 2 runs. You lot amaze me, all of you, bravo.

-Eric (languishing at 64)
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Power Giant wrote:
Time to start your sprint for the line..


34 people are still right on schedule (97 runs or more). 38 are within 2 runs. You lot amaze me, all of you, bravo.

-Eric (languishing at 64)

Folks have done a great job. I have never run this many days in a row, or mileage, etc. in my life. My first Du 2 weeks ago where I ran my fastest 10K ever
with a 38 something for a 6:14 pace at 60 says I am going to try and keep this going, if I can stay healthy.

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Time to start your sprint for the line..

Ha! That is exactly what I did. Well, as much as an old lady with a cranky back and lazy hip can do. Ran 3 miles at the best pace for me in a while, and really let loose--for the first time in years--on the last hundred yards or so. 100 in the bag today, and crossed the finish line three days ahead of schedule.

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looks like you won over all and by mileage. im curious as to your training and run times.. have a strava profile to share?
There is a dormant Strava account; am past that age where I closely record and monitor my activities. Google maps and iPod stopwatch is my old-school version of "tracking" :)
High number of runs is primarily due to runs to/from work, with long runs or races on the weekends and a few silly weekends, where I did 5-7 runs per day. Not fun actually, total waste of my spare time.

BTW: you put in a great, great mileage, really kept me on my feet!
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save it for next year i suppose.. i am guessing you have a script counting all the runs that are 30+. perhaps next time, it can take total time in a day, if separate runs are less than 30 minutes, but total time is 30 for every session.. it can count. So 45min in AM, 15min in PM, the script sees total 60 in one day an 2 runs.. having no remainder in the division it approves it as 2 runs for the day. Then again the threshold values can be rethought. 3 miles in 30 min is not the same as done in 15. like i said, this for next year. or perhaps a summer quick session?


I hope no one counts the run like you stated since a 45 in the morning and 15 in the PM is a SINGLE run for the day of 60 minutes, NOT 2 runs for the day.
If you ran 45 one day and 15 the NEXT day, then you get credit for ONE run each day of 30 minutes not two in either day

Is this correct? I interpreted the rule to mean you run 15 minutes first, then on the 2nd next day you have to run 45 minutes -- to then log 30 min/ 30 min. Can you run 45 one day and 15 the next, and no run the third day, and still count that as two 30 min runs?

If so, I can log one extra run!
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h2ofun wrote:
synthetic wrote:
save it for next year i suppose.. i am guessing you have a script counting all the runs that are 30+. perhaps next time, it can take total time in a day, if separate runs are less than 30 minutes, but total time is 30 for every session.. it can count. So 45min in AM, 15min in PM, the script sees total 60 in one day an 2 runs.. having no remainder in the division it approves it as 2 runs for the day. Then again the threshold values can be rethought. 3 miles in 30 min is not the same as done in 15. like i said, this for next year. or perhaps a summer quick session?


I hope no one counts the run like you stated since a 45 in the morning and 15 in the PM is a SINGLE run for the day of 60 minutes, NOT 2 runs for the day.
If you ran 45 one day and 15 the NEXT day, then you get credit for ONE run each day of 30 minutes not two in either day


Is this correct? I interpreted the rule to mean you run 15 minutes first, then on the 2nd next day you have to run 45 minutes -- to then log 30 min/ 30 min. Can you run 45 one day and 15 the next, and no run the third day, and still count that as two 30 min runs?

If so, I can log one extra run!

I think I wrote the end wrong. If you do a 15 in the morning and a 45 in the afternoon, you only get credit for one 60 minute run that day, not 2 runs in one day of 30 minutes each.

IMO, whether it is 15/45 or 45/15 in two days, IMO, one would count a 30 minute run for each day. No run the third day is no run?

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I'm going to get a jump on next year's 'airing of grievances' and vote to get rid of this stupid rule. Obviously it is confusing and no doubt has resulted in some folks incorrectly logging their runs. That is all.
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I'm going to get a jump on next year's 'airing of grievances' and vote to get rid of this stupid rule. Obviously it is confusing and no doubt has resulted in some folks incorrectly logging their runs. That is all.

I tend to agree. Heck I was not running at all on Dec 15th and gradually built up without using the wussification rule. It kind of went against my original ethic, but it seems like a lot of people like it.

In any case....today was the start of my 100th run but I chose to leave it "incomplete". I did a 40 min trainer ride + 28 minutes treadmill run. Just to make a point to myself, I will hit the treadmill tonite for 12-15 minutes easy before doing weights. I'll be logging a 40-45 minute run later tonite once I get it all done.
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I'm going to get a jump on next year's 'airing of grievances' and vote to get rid of this stupid rule. Obviously it is confusing and no doubt has resulted in some folks incorrectly logging their runs. That is all.

I agree. I did it once, and after that thought it was was stupid so only did 30 minute runs minimum

And I agree from what I have read, some seem to have entered there number of runs wrong, which is one reason I just went back to my normal
training.

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For next year we should drop that 15 min thing. It's always been a 30 minute minimum in my mind and I've lived by that. That said, I'm also a moron.... I was, at one point, 6 runs "up" (ahead) on the streak. And there were some times when I had to drop a day due to travel or some such nonsense but then I'd double up another day and still be too the good by some number. Somehow I got lost in the tracking I was doing in my mind. I thought I was three runs up but I check on Tuesday and see that I'm several behind. I'm not 100% sure how I did that - failed to record a couple here on ST or got a little hyperbole going in my mind. Either way, I double today, I'll double tomorrow, Friday I can run #99 at home before I fly to San Francisco and do something odd/special for #100.

Lovin' it.

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IanP, check your training log. The default setting for the workout log is road cycling. When my numbers were different than I expected, I found that I had incorrectly entered several runs as "road cycling."

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Tri3 you beautiful genius!!! Of course!!! I found a bunch, I'm there, stoked!!! Thank you.
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Looks like we have 27 people over the 100/100 finish line with one day to go. I see 42 people at 97 or greater, so I expect that they will be over the 100 "line" by end of day tomorrow.

I am quite excited to have joined the "club again". Would have never dreamed that was in the realm of possibility on Dec 15th having spent most of 2016 either on crutches or with a ton of difficulty walking. While I still have work to do in terms of running on pavement, if I run on my treadmill or the track, it's generally pretty good and I am getting closer to full balance and full push off force in my bad leg. I hope to be good to go on pavement ideally by mid summer.

In 2017 so far I logged 72 hours of running and 73 hours of swimming, so I am sticking to my "plan" of swimming more hours than running. The problem is the more I can run, the more I have to swim to keep up with my self imposed "plan"
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Good job all...Woo Hoo!



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thugbuster wrote:
I'm going to get a jump on next year's 'airing of grievances' and vote to get rid of this stupid rule. Obviously it is confusing and no doubt has resulted in some folks incorrectly logging their runs. That is all.


I tend to agree. Heck I was not running at all on Dec 15th and gradually built up without using the wussification rule. It kind of went against my original ethic, but it seems like a lot of people like it.

In any case....today was the start of my 100th run but I chose to leave it "incomplete". I did a 40 min trainer ride + 28 minutes treadmill run. Just to make a point to myself, I will hit the treadmill tonite for 12-15 minutes easy before doing weights. I'll be logging a 40-45 minute run later tonite once I get it all done.

yes out with wussification rule +1.

in with minimum threshold based on effort. everyone has done a 5k... make their best recent 5k time the minimum. this allows wussification in a sense... if you run a 17min 5k, but do a 2.5k run in same time - slow as hell, but counts. yes you can do it when quite sickly (one of my run days was when i had serious stomach issues)
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Finished the 100th run today with a 21km long run. Took me 1:41h and after the first 90min I ran 18.9km (including around 2km warmup). Do you think a sub 1:30 half marathon in two weeks is doable?

Anyways, this was a fun challenge! I hope everyone came out injury free and faster. Will do this again next year for sure (or this December).
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Tri3] [ In reply to ]
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Tri3 wrote:
IanP, check your training log. The default setting for the workout log is road cycling. When my numbers were different than I expected, I found that I had incorrectly entered several runs as "road cycling."

For a long time the default activity was hard coded. You can now choose it in your user profile and set it to whatever you wish.

-Eric
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [ianpeace] [ In reply to ]
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I am glad we had the "wuss" rule. It allowed me to do more bikes than I would have otherwise. There were probably 3 or 4 days that I took advantage of it to run off the bike, and call it quits at 15 instead of 30.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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EricTheBiking wrote:
Tri3 wrote:
IanP, check your training log. The default setting for the workout log is road cycling. When my numbers were different than I expected, I found that I had incorrectly entered several runs as "road cycling."


For a long time the default activity was hard coded. You can now choose it in your user profile and set it to whatever you wish.

-Eric


Thanks for all the painful work updating the log in the middle of the challenge and porting all the historic data over and putting up with all of us "high paying customers"....nothing like satisfied customers who give you so much revenue :-).

OK, I crossed the finish line today with my 102nd run and surpassed 750K for the challenge. Honestly I had not expected to run at all during this thing, but as explained above, some of my nerve/disc issues made progress and the more I ran the better I seem to be getting with lower spine mobiliity. As a bonus I was hovering in the 146-149 lbs range at the start. Today I weighed in at 138.5 lbs and that's within 1.5 lbs of my ultimate Kona Qual race weight from the past. I changed jobs in January and have only had to travel twice since then and nothing overseas, so I think just eating well, sleeping in my time zone took care of most of it, while adding in all that running.

Looks like we will be having 40 people over the 100/100 finish line by end of day in on Howard and Baker Island on the equator which are at UTC-12 and are the last time zones on earth. You guys posted to Guam got the first crack at March 24th and are already on March 25th!!!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Thanks for all the painful work updating the log in the middle of the challenge and porting all the historic data over and putting up with all of us "high paying customers"....nothing like satisfied customers who give you so much revenue :-).

OK, I crossed the finish line today with my 102nd run and surpassed 750K for the challenge. Honestly I had not expected to run at all during this thing, but as explained above, some of my nerve/disc issues made progress and the more I ran the better I seem to be getting with lower spine mobiliity. As a bonus I was hovering in the 146-149 lbs range at the start. Today I weighed in at 138.5 lbs and that's within 1.5 lbs of my ultimate Kona Qual race weight from the past. I changed jobs in January and have only had to travel twice since then and nothing overseas, so I think just eating well, sleeping in my time zone took care of most of it, while adding in all that running.

Looks like we will be having 40 people over the 100/100 finish line by end of day in on Howard and Baker Island on the equator which are at UTC-12 and are the last time zones on earth. You guys posted to Guam got the first crack at March 24th and are already on March 25th!!!

Happy to do it. It's been a really fun project. And it's only going to get better and better from here.

Thank you all for using it, congratulations on 100/100 participants -- looks like we have around 40 who can squeak in to gold medal status on this one!!! Nice work!!!

-Eric
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Great job Dev! I watched you creep up the board and pass me the last couple of weeks


Add another to the 100/100 finisher list. It was a fun 100 days and I certainly learned how to keep the easy days easy. During the 100, I ran my fastest HM 1:33 and after chasing it for 2 years and getting close a few times, I broke the 20min mark in a 5K running a 19:38 on a course I ran 20:17 on last year. All in all it was a great challenge and I came out of it stronger and healthy. Bring on Ironman Texas 70.3 next weekend and hopefully a new HIM run PR!

ETA - +1 on getting rid of the wussification rule!
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [se7930] [ In reply to ]
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this challenge helped me get through some tough times. i got flu and stomach virus, lost 10lb so my performance declined big time. not able to keep my paces up, at least i was to keep in the mileage for this challenge. to finish off, the day after challenge was done (today), i got to cruise in with my wife to a sub 90 min half where she won 1st over all. icing on the cake :)

in pic she is right behind me having a bike lead
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev, I raced my first triathlon of the season today and had what was perhaps my second be run ever in the sport. It was the local Bonelli Park oddball distance (1k swim, 30k bike, 8k run). My entire tri "career" has been decent swim, strong bike and run scared - try and hold them off and frequently blow up due to pushing the bike too hard. There's lots of us out here (and perhaps even more of us on ST Forum).

Today I just knew was gonna be different because I was coming off the 100/100. I passed 7 guys on the run, didn't get passed once and just took on a whole new perspective of being the hunter rather than the hunted. Finished 2nd AG, 13th OA.

I'm inspired by how you, Dev, used this years Challenge as part of your recovery. I'm also grateful for the community of runners who took on the 100/100 Challenge. Thank you all.

Ian

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [ianpeace] [ In reply to ]
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Ditto this! And congrats, Ian!! Wow. Outstanding.

My runs during a Tri often turn into walks.... This was my first time doing the 100/100 challenge all the way to the end (came in at 90 runs). I had an OLY last weekend and was completely under-trained for the swim or bike (thanks to this challenge) and I got a 10k PR on this course and was within 40 seconds of my stand-alone 10k PR.

Then, I went and did a 13.1 trail race yesterday and blew my PR on that course out of the water by 16 minutes. I guess that is what happens when you keep running instead of taking walk breaks.... I didn't know my legs could do that.

Thank you to everybody for participating (especially the womens) and keeping it real.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [SLOgoing] [ In reply to ]
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I guess I am not the only one who dislikes the new layout tally.... I see the number of participants in the Big Kahuna is way down. I totally enjoyed my three years there where I could see and admire the workouts of the other boys and girls, and in the 100/100 too. I keep hoping when I come back here from time to time that I will see they fired the doo doo bird who demolished the old style format which was fantastic.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [ianpeace] [ In reply to ]
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Hey running fellas, today I totally destroyed my half marathon PR by 9 minutes. Took me 1:27:39h to complete this whole thing and I still can't believe I was that good (compared to my previous results, not compared to ST standards). This challenge helped me so much. In the past I had to be careful to go longer distances in training or I would have been in trouble with my knees. Now, even though I am still cautious, I am running higher mileage with no problems at all (knocking on wood).
I am really looking forward to this year's challenge and I'll try to keep the high running frequency.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Deserwest] [ In reply to ]
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Deserwest wrote:
I guess I am not the only one who dislikes the new layout tally.... I see the number of participants in the Big Kahuna is way down. I totally enjoyed my three years there where I could see and admire the workouts of the other boys and girls, and in the 100/100 too. I keep hoping when I come back here from time to time that I will see they fired the doo doo bird who demolished the old style format which was fantastic.

Hey Deserwest,

If there is a "doo doo bird", I guess it's me. Between me, who volunteered to rework the training log, Jordan and Dan, who agreed it needed a facelift, and then all the input from the very involved community members, we have made some changes.

It's an ongoing process, certainly nowhere near complete, and so hopefully you can sum up your ideas in a slightly more constructive form -- is there something about the old challenge leaderboard we missed? Is there something you've always wanted to see on it? Anything is up for dicussion, consideration, and implementation.

Thanks,

-Eric
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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I really wonder how I missed the "input" session??? I was on site nearly every day from 2014-2016 and heard of no solicitation for input. O.K. I am not an elite athlete, but as I recall in 2015 nobody and more miles, hours, or distance on the 100/100. So, just wondering who you took input from actually. Improving the site is one thing, but you also took away an interactive spreadsheet and replaced it with a dead one. So,for example, lets say there is an athlete I admire and want to know specifically what training mix they were doing? So, before I could click on a name, and if they entered their workouts,(which many did of their own free will), I could read and study the progression. Case in point, a little more than a year ago, we had an about age 50 runner (I wont say his screename), who pulled of an age group win at no less than the L.A. Marathon. All I can see now is his total points. Big deal. Tells me nothing. Another example, suppose a person wants input from the user group. Well, without being able to see their training mix, how can we help them. What I am telling you is that when one goes to the 100/100 or Big Kahuna, or whatever, all you see is a dead spread sheet. Its boring and its useless. I posted about this months ago, nobody responded. I call you a doo doo bird and you respond. So,are you really responding, or were you just looking for an apology? Sure, I can give you that, you got it. I should not name call. I will just state my view. Your new program has been in place for months, and it stinks. But you are not a doo doo bird.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Deserwest] [ In reply to ]
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Deserwest wrote:
I really wonder [..snip...]

So let me sum up:

Blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah, I wish when I clicked on a username in the challenge screen, it would take me to their personal training log, blah blah blah blah blah.

(And by the way, you never articulated this clearly before, when you posted in the training log thread, and when I asked for clarification, I got no response. Also by the way, a user's profile linking to their activities is on the to-do list, quite high up there).

Thanks,

-Eric
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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EricTheBiking wrote:
Deserwest wrote:
I really wonder [..snip...]


So let me sum up:

Blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah, I wish when I clicked on a username in the challenge screen, it would take me to their personal training log, blah blah blah blah blah.

(And by the way, you never articulated this clearly before, when you posted in the training log thread, and when I asked for clarification, I got no response. Also by the way, a user's profile linking to their activities is on the to-do list, quite high up there).

Thanks,

-Eric

I also really liked the ability in the old system to click on a person and see the details of their inputs.

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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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Blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah,

A perfect description of your work designing the new and improved system.

Keep up the poor work !
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [Deserwest] [ In reply to ]
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Deserwest wrote:
Blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah,

A perfect description of your work designing the new and improved system.

Keep up the poor work !

Wow, someone is reworking the log for free, which is a process, and you have nothing better to do than to be a complete douchebag (insert slow clapping).
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [MxRoe] [ In reply to ]
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Free don't make it any better. Idiot.
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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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If anyone is interested, I'm doing my own Endless Summer 100/100 starting today through the end of the Labor Day holiday [I'm already 1-for-1]



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Re: 2016-2017 100 Runs/100 Days Challenge Dec 15-Mar 24 [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
If anyone is interested, I'm doing my own Endless Summer 100/100 starting today through the end of the Labor Day holiday [I'm already 1-for-1]

Totals are in: 62 runs over 100 days [or so] for 239 miles

Not bad considering I was out a week with a twisted back, then another week after I smashed my toe

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