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Anyone else into this show?

Another top notch program by the Netflix crew
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TylerJ wrote:
Anyone else into this show?

Another top notch program by the Netflix crew

LIke Marco Polo and Arrested Development season 4?

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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How far into season is it (or did it just start?)?
Saw the trailer and it looks pretty good.
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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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I think I'll watch it next. Currently on Sense8 and think it's awesome
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Re: Narcos [OakCliffTri] [ In reply to ]
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OakCliffTri wrote:
How far into season is it (or did it just start?)?
Saw the trailer and it looks pretty good.

I'm on episode 6.

The beauty about Netflix produced shows is they release a whole season at a time.
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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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I've watched the first 3 episodes. Very interesting (especially if the history is at all true, and I suspect it is).

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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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Got all the episodes in last week.

Agree - top notch.
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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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+1 Awesome show, just finished the last episode last night. I've been recommending it to everybody
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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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Just started - love it.
Agree about the continued high quality of original programming from both netflix and amazon
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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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Yep, I'm at episode 5. Pretty good stuff.

FYI, more than half of the dialog is in spanish with english subtitles. The actor playing Pablo is a damn good lookalike. When they flip to real pictures of Pablo and back to the actor, sometimes its hard to tell the difference of who i'm looking at.


I've always been fascinated by the whole Colombian Cartel story and the cocaine drug pipeline into the US. The amount of $$ involved was just staggering.

There's been a couple pretty good documentaries (that you can find on Netflix also) that are really good on the same topic and Pablo Escobar.
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Re: Narcos [Endo] [ In reply to ]
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I read that Pablo wrote off like 3 billion dollars a year, because rats were eating it.

Unreal.
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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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At it's peak, Pablo was bringing in 33 billion annually (60 million a week). Ranked #7 on Forbes wealthiest people in the world if I remember correctly. All happening in about 10-15 years timeframe.

Couldn't find ways to launder it all. Even took to digging holes with backhoes to bury it. All US currency.


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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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It is a pretty incredible and bizarre story, and they mad a great show out of it! We are burning through the season. Even being familiar with the general story of Pablo it is still very entertaining.

I wonder if they will have another season based on some other famous drug lord? El Chapo?

Long Chile was a silly place.
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Re: Narcos [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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I've read a lot about the Columbia cartels. See a lot of familiar faces. They just covered Barry seal. That is an interesting story. Dennis hopper played him in an hbo movie a couple decades ago. Oliver north comes up as a potential participant. He helped expose the Nicaragua and smuggling link with the cartels. Gary Webb mentioned him a lot before in his articles linking the CIA to drugs finding their way to US inner cities.


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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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Great first episode, thanks for the tip. Been looking for a bingeworthy show since Breaking Bad.

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Re: Narcos [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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At E9 now. One thing I am a bit disappointed on is that they spend a relatively small amount of time on him building his business and empire. Think that was done by episode 1 or maybe 2. Lots of time spent on the later years with his political ambitions and the ensuing war with the govt. Just a personal preference though.

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Re: Narcos [Endo] [ In reply to ]
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I wonder why Hugo Martinez, the co of search bloc was not properly named. That guy is a genuine hero. Instead they called him Carrillo. It's like only the cartel members were the real names.


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Re: Narcos [TheForge] [ In reply to ]
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I just finished The Cartel - Winslow, the sequel to The Power of the Dog - it is amazing, the things that happened / are happening are so bizarre that you could not make it up and if you did they'd say it was fiction, I appreciate its about the Mexican trade but none the less its awesome
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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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I'm surprised the SJWs haven't got all in rage about the prolific use of the words "fag" and "faggot".

Maybe they can't read the subtitles?

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Re: Narcos [TheForge] [ In reply to ]
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TheForge wrote:
I wonder why Hugo Martinez, the co of search bloc was not properly named. That guy is a genuine hero. Instead they called him Carrillo. It's like only the cartel members were the real names.

Yeah, I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that Martinez is still alive (I think) and he either didn't want or did not give them permission on using his actual name. Maybe it was in deference to his wishes. Since he is still alive and they are basically showing him committing murders or doing other technically illegal things that they are trying to avoid lawsuit or other issues. I don't know how all that works cross-border.

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Re: Narcos [Mendeldave] [ In reply to ]
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Mendeldave wrote:
I've watched the first 3 episodes. Very interesting (especially if the history is at all true, and I suspect it is).

We've seen this series.
Its excellent and, yes, sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
For example, just seized on a flight originating from Bogota, a ton of cocaine disguised, yes, as computer printer toner:

http://news.yahoo.com/...ights-164742344.html

And another interesting new film, a documentary about the fight against the mexican cartels (but doc is not yet on netflix):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JD7hPM_yxg

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Re: Narcos [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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Watching it again last night I noticed the opening credits mention something about it being based on true events.

It's a cool show.

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Re: Narcos [Mendeldave] [ In reply to ]
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Well shit. Are they getting a season 2 out of this story. I assumed this was a one and done, but I guess not.

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Re: Narcos [Endo] [ In reply to ]
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Netflix announced that there will be a season 2.

I'm psyched... I was bummed when I ran out of episodes to watch. Very well done show.
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Re: Narcos [Nickwisdom] [ In reply to ]
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There can't be much more left for Pablo's saga, so I'm guessing the series moves on to the Cali cartel next.

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Re: Narcos [Endo] [ In reply to ]
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Probably get a couple episodes still on Pablo. Search Bloc needs to be reorganized since they killed him with the help of delta. Probably won't discuss that part. But Bowden wrote bothe killing Pablo and black hawk down. The delta links he made writing black hawk down led to contacts on killing Pablo. Paul Howe was his initial link to delta and black hawk down. Howe is the real American hero I post articles by on occasion. Bowden wrote killing Pablo after blackhawk down and is most detailed account of the Pablo story. And pretty much is this show and more. I always wondered if Paul howe played a role in killing Pablo. He has never answered that question when asked by me or even mutual friends in special forces.


"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden
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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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Summary of killing Pablo. Skip to centra spike and delta force.

http://www.expat-chronicles.com/2011/11/killing-pablo-summary-and-review/


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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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Agreed, this show is pretty riveting.

Before Netflix got into TV production, if you had told me "hey, there's going to be a show where you have to pay attention every second because you have to read every word of subtitles" I probably wouldn't have been interested. But now I honestly don't mind. Lilyhammer was the first Netflix production where I dealt with this and... it was awesome. Wish I could say I learned Norwegian from it, but...

Netflix has had a couple of original flops (Arrested Development being one), but for the most part they have done a great job with their flagship productions (i.e. House of Cards), and this is set to be another one. It is refreshing to see quality be put first when a show is made. The first Netflix-run season of Longmire is out now... I really enjoyed the first ones, and will see if Netflix makes a winner or a flop.

Have started Sense8 and it is promising so far, really REALLY enjoyed Lilyhammer.
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Re: Narcos [JesseN] [ In reply to ]
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I gave Longmire a try when it was on network TV, but thought it was kind of weak and cheesy. I think I only made it through season 1. The concept had promise and I like the Longmire sheriff guy, but all of the supporting cast and the ancillary drama plot lines were pretty annoying.

Maybe it got better and Netflix gave it a makeover.

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Re: Narcos [Endo] [ In reply to ]
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that's what we thought too! drats, now we've got to wait who-knows-how-long for the next season.

+1 for recommended watching.

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Re: Narcos [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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Just done with episode 5, pretty great. so was House of Cards. Unbreakable Kimmie Schmidt for a different kind of madness.

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Re: Narcos [K-DUB] [ In reply to ]
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Season 2 just a few days away. Can't wait.

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Re: Narcos [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Yup, I've been eagerly awaiting this shows return. Sept 2nd!

Long Chile was a silly place.
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Re: Narcos [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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be interesting to see if it's as good now. I read there was some personnel change on the behind the camera side--maybe a different director? Plus season 1 spanned a period of several years, and they can't do it that way now because there isn't much life left from what I read.
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Get your binge watching ready.

I wonder how accurate it will be. Delta and other higher level special operators spent a lot of the 90's in the thick of the drug wars, playing much more than the official "advisory" roll. In fact, I've seen a picture of delta operators posing in tactical gear with Hugo Martinez and his search bloc men who "officially" killed him. This is one of those stories you can confirm if you look. I confirmed it with a former delta operator that was in my circles as a competitive shooter a few years back. He denies having been there himself, but he was in Mogadishu and the team that was assigned to assist Search Block was temporarily reassigned to Mogadishu. Other stories I have read suggest that this guy was in Columbia as well.

http://articles.philly.com/...ablo-escobar-manhunt

http://articles.philly.com/...-government-medellin

http://articles.philly.com/...colombian-government

http://articles.philly.com/...-escobar-delta-force

http://articles.philly.com/...ial-operations-delta

http://articles.philly.com/...cobar-medellin-delta

http://articles.philly.com/...obar-medellin-bogota

http://articles.philly.com/...-police-false-alarms

This was multi part series that I had to pull some old notes from, here is the search you can use to fill in the gaps. Click the in between dates and search for Bowden.

http://articles.philly.com/2000/dec/17

http://articles.philly.com/...medellin-frequencies


"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden
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Re: Narcos [TheForge] [ In reply to ]
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Now it makes sense why the colonel's name, Carrillo was different than the guy he is based on. Everybody but him had their true names. His replacement seems To be the real real guy Martinez. But Martinez was the original and only commander of search bloc. So it looks like the took a little license with the character. Maybe to disassociate some of the suspected controversial tactics associated with search bloc under Martinez.


"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden
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TheForge wrote:
Now it makes sense why the colonel's name, Carrillo was different than the guy he is based on. Everybody but him had their true names. His replacement seems To be the real real guy Martinez. But Martinez was the original and only commander of search bloc. So it looks like the took a little license with the character. Maybe to disassociate some of the suspected controversial tactics associated with search bloc under Martinez.

Yeah, I kind of wondered the same thing as to why up to that point it seemed Martinez was portrayed as the fictional character Carrillo.

My guess is that since Martinez is still alive and well in Colombia that the producers wanted to tone down what he actually did as to not pile on the controversy.

Which is odd because much has been written about what he and Search Bloc did all those years.

You would think the real life Pena and Murphy wouldn't want their involvement so prominently displayed either. I'm sure the show leans heavy on the action narrative when it comes to those guys but it appears they committed about 1000 different acts that could be considered crimes in both Colombia and the USA. :-)

Now statute of limitations are what they are (and Colombia has a 20 year SoL on murder) but neither of them come off smelling like roses. Bad guys are bad guys but laws are laws.

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Re: Narcos [TheForge] [ In reply to ]
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Haven't watched season 2 yet, but I just read that seasons 3 and 4 have been confirmed. I have no idea how they can stretch it that far and keep it even remotely interesting. Seems like 80% of his story was told in season 1, if I recall correctly.

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Re: Narcos [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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sphere wrote:
Haven't watched season 2 yet, but I just read that seasons 3 and 4 have been confirmed. I have no idea how they can stretch it that far and keep it even remotely interesting. Seems like 80% of his story was told in season 1, if I recall correctly.


I think Escobar's death happens this season but there were plenty of drug kingpins to come, especially the rise of the Cali cartel which has been already foreshadowed on the show with the recurring appearances by the Rodriguez-Orejuela brothers and Pacho Herrera. The Cali cartel was ultimately far more powerful than Escobar's Medellin cartel but they weren't as sensationalistic or as brutal as Escobar.

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Re: Narcos [TheForge] [ In reply to ]
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Spoilers.











They took a lot of license.

Martinez comes in after Carrillo is killed. The lawyer, Duque, in real life is still alive. So is the character Valeria Velez is based on -- she's currently living in the US.

Steve Murphy is based on the real Steve Murphy, who was present when Escobar was killed.
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Re: Narcos [AlanShearer] [ In reply to ]
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Dude the list of links I posted are giant spoilers.


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sphere wrote:
Haven't watched season 2 yet, but I just read that seasons 3 and 4 have been confirmed. I have no idea how they can stretch it that far and keep it even remotely interesting. Seems like 80% of his story was told in season 1, if I recall correctly.

Seems like it will switch to follow the Cali Cartel, Helmar Herrera, and the Carrasco brothers.
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Re: Narcos [TheForge] [ In reply to ]
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TheForge wrote:
Dude the list of links I posted are giant spoilers.

I don't believe in links.
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Re: Narcos [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Season 2 just a few days away. Can't wait.

No mention of Season 3? I just finished episode 7 of Season 3. I was really worried about where they would take the show this season. Also worried about it being stale. Nope! Love it just as much as the first 2 seasons! Great show!

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Re: Narcos [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, I've been dragging my feet on season 3 after Escobar's death, even though the subject matter is fascinating and can make for great programming. Moura left incredibly big shoes to fill in that series.

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Season 3 was as good as S2. Neither measure up to Season 1 though.

At end of S3, it looks they're handing the torch off to the Mexican cartels for Season 4.

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No mention of Season 3? I just finished episode 7 of Season 3. I was really worried about where they would take the show this season. Also worried about it being stale. Nope! Love it just as much as the first 2 seasons! Great show!

I watched Seasons 1 and 2 and kind of forgot about Season 3. Last week my brother told me to watch it, he felt the 3rd season was better than 1 and 2. I watched the first episode and now I'm hooked again.

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Sanuk wrote:
No mention of Season 3? I just finished episode 7 of Season 3. I was really worried about where they would take the show this season. Also worried about it being stale. Nope! Love it just as much as the first 2 seasons! Great show!

I watched Seasons 1 and 2 and kind of forgot about Season 3. Last week my brother told me to watch it, he felt the 3rd season was better than 1 and 2. I watched the first episode and now I'm hooked again.

One more episode to go of season three and just loving it. Such a fascinating story and very well produced by the boys and girls at Netflix.
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Late to the game, but just got my Netflix account and remembered you all loved this series. At episode 9 now and hooked. For me, I lived during this history, so it is really fun to get into the weeds of what was going on the surface in big city America in the 80's. Lucky for me, I was a budding triathlete, and not a clubber/disco king, things would have turned out much differently. I know friends who went that route, many are dead now from that awful drug.

So no doubt some of the show was written for affect, but my guess is that there was plenty of reality that was ripe for the picking to keep the show riveting. Anyway thanks for the reports, I will be looking soon for the next one, as it seems like I will blast through this series in about a month or so..
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