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The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16
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http://www.tririg.com/...Felt_Launches_New_IA



Pricing:
  • IA10 UHC Performance carbon frame and fork; Shimano Ultegra Di2 group; 52/38t Vision crankset; Felt TTR3 wheels - US$4,999
  • IA14 UHC Performance carbon frame and fork; Shimano Ultegra group; 52/38t Vision crankset; Felt TTR4 wheels - US$3,999
  • IA16 UHC Performance carbon frame and fork; Shimano 105 group; 50/34t FSA crankset; Felt TTR4 wheels US - $2,999



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"The Felt IA has been an undeniable success since its launch in 2013. Since then, it has won two Ironman World Championship titles under Mirinda Carfrae,"

And I thought she won it on the run........
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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It looks so wrong to see an IA with training wheels like that.

'It never gets easier, you just get crazier.'
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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I think my 09' B12 knows something is up. I think I heard it sobbing in the garage.
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Ordered a IA FRD frameset 3 weeks ago, spend $400 to repaint it and there's a brand new color scheme I probably would have gone with...way it goes.
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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fugly
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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The colors of the great state of Alaska...maaaan oh man. Just waiting to hear back from Dave on if this will "fit" my set up. I'd be all over this!!
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Two new bikes with bottle bosses on the *back* of the seat tube in one week. Looks like we're going to see some aftermarket "draft boxes" ala Speed Concept pretty soon. Also, it's not a bad place to run a bottle for long course (easy to get out, admittedly tricky to get back in).
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Wow. I was all set for the new SC to be my next dream bike. If the frame price for this IA hits near the $2000 price point... Paging Dave!
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Re: The New Felt IA [aahydraa] [ In reply to ]
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aahydraa wrote:
Wow. I was all set for the new SC to be my next dream bike. If the frame price for this IA hits near the $2000 price point... Paging Dave!

Tririg stated $2,999 for the full base spec bike, rising to $4,999 for the top Di2 version.
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Re: The New Felt IA [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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Two new bikes with bottle bosses on the *back* of the seat tube in one week. Looks like we're going to see some aftermarket "draft boxes" ala Speed Concept pretty soon. Also, it's not a bad place to run a bottle for long course (easy to get out, admittedly tricky to get back in).

Which is the other one?
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Re: The New Felt IA [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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new Orbea I think is the other
http://www.slowtwitch.com/..._unveiled__5201.html
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Re: The New Felt IA [DDMike] [ In reply to ]
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DDMike wrote:
new Orbea I think is the other
http://www.slowtwitch.com/..._unveiled__5201.html

Thanks
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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It looks very much like FSA has ripped off the older Simkins Egg Brake design for its new aero caliper:





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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Its an appealing package, that's for sure.

As well as being easier to wrench for those of us who travel a lot or are less capable mechanics, TriRig claim that with the right cockpit and brakes it could be as fast (faster?) Than the integrated version

Whilst I'm sceptical about it being potentially faster, I'm sure that it could be made close enough for most of us to not mind
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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like the colors, would look great with my racing kit ;)

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Re: The New Felt IA [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks... yes, I saw the whole bike price of 2,999. I'm expecting (hoping?) dealer discounts and removal of wheels/groupset/:cockpit etc. to bring prices down to close to the 2k point. The Trek SC 7 frame is just barely above 2k brand new. (Our country)
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Why didn't they update the IA FRD in red w better bottle bosses and that one in the rear below the seat post on the top flight mdel?
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Re: The New Felt IA [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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The new Orbea
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Re: The New Felt IA [bluesmachine] [ In reply to ]
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Will there be different stems availible?

Hard work is faster then aero
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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I really like this. I would like to see what the spec is on the lowest priced option. Since I have a lot of higher end parts on my P2 build, I could switch them around and have a very nice bike.

AERO & LIGHT is RIGHT

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Re: The New Felt IA [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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when do you think these will be available to the public?

Hard work is faster then aero
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Re: The New Felt IA [surfNJmatt] [ In reply to ]
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They also have a black and white version it appears.


http://www.tririg.com/...es_New_IA&num=32
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Re: The New Felt IA [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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GreenPlease wrote:
Two new bikes with bottle bosses on the *back* of the seat tube in one week.

And triple bosses on the downtube.

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Re: The New Felt IA [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah but I wonder if it will end up like the bolt above the bottom bracket. No one made any sort of storage device for the P5 and the new P2/P3.

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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I'd like to see a closeup of the rear brake setup vs the standard IA integrated setup. It is tough to see in the photos from the TriRig article.
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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I'm also curious to know if there is actually any data showing the differences between the standard IA build and this new one. I know the TriRig article states (if I read it correctly) that the frame by itself on the new version is actually faster than the standard IA frame, but when you add the brakes and other components it is a little slower. Just how big of an impact are the exposed brakes on the faster frame vs the integrated brakes on a slower frame?

This is all very exciting....*in a singing voice* "I'm getting a new bike next Spring...la la laa"
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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I think the new price points are going to make it really hard to decide between a P2 or an IA. Competition for pricing is always good for us!

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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I just found this on BikeRadar:
  • IA FRD LTD UHC Ultimate, TeXtreme frame and fork; Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 group; 52/36t Rotor Flow crankset; Zipp 404 Firestrike wheels; Felt Aero TTR1 tires US$16,999 / 12,999
  • IA2 UHC Advanced carbon frame and fork; Shimano Ultegra Di2 group; 52/36t crankset; Felt TTR1 by Novatec wheels; Felt Aero TTR2 tires US$9,999 / 5,999
  • IA3 UHC Advanced carbon frame and fork; Shimano Dura-Ace mechanical group; 52/38t Vision TriMax Pro crankset; Felt TTR3 wheels; Felt Aero TTR2 tires US$5,999 / 3,999
  • IA10 UHC Performance carbon frame and fork; Shimano Ultegra Di2 group; 52/38t Vision crankset; Felt TTR3 wheels US$4,999 / n/a
  • IA14 UHC Performance carbon frame and fork; Shimano Ultegra group; 52/38t Vision crankset; Felt TTR4 wheels US$3,999 / n/a
  • IA16 UHC Performance carbon frame and fork; Shimano 105 group; 50/34t FSA crankset; Felt TTR4 wheels US$2,999 / n/a

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Link?

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
I think the new price points are going to make it really hard to decide between a P2 or an IA. Competition for pricing is always good for us!

And the IA comes with a better aero bar than the P2. Also there will be a frame set available for the cheap IA. Seriously, Felt has just gotten greedy. I here that the IA has been huge seller and now they do this, it is like they want to make lots of money or something.

Of course, I do not know if I could buy a IA without the pretty carbon aero bar. It really is a pretty bar.
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
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tririg.com

Also, the ARD is coming with a rotor powermeter (well really half of a powermeter) I believe.
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Re: The New Felt IA [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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I wonder if a Zipp Vuka Stealth and a TriRig Omega X makes that bike as fast as the old IA. The new bottle mounts, standard stem, and the mounts on the seat tube are more attractive then the old IA

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Re: The New Felt IA [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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I was asking about the pricing he found on Bike Radar. They currently don't have an article up yet

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/felt-2016-road-line-up-revealed-44526/
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Re: The New Felt IA [Tell3131] [ In reply to ]
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That article is only for the IA's with integrated front ends. It is not the new IAs

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Re: The New Felt IA [Tell3131] [ In reply to ]
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pricing is on the bike radar article. somehow I missed it

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http://www.bikeradar.com/us/road/news/article/felt-2016-road-line-up-revealed-44526/


This link has a list of prices, including the new IA's (IA10, IA14, IA16)
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Found it! Thanks. I somehow missed it on my search through the article

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Re: The New Felt IA [Tell3131] [ In reply to ]
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Here is what happened:

There are 2 bike radar articles

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/felt-2016-road-line-up-revealed-44526/ This one does not have the IA 10, 14, 16 pricing

http://www.bikeradar.com/...e-up-revealed-44526/ This one has the IA 10, 14, 16 pricing

The only difference is bikeradar.com/road and bikeradar.com/us

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
Yeah but I wonder if it will end up like the bolt above the bottom bracket. No one made any sort of storage device for the P5 and the new P2/P3.

IMO, it would be a lot easier to design a drag-neutral storage solution for something behind the seat tube than between the seat tube and down tube.
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Re: The New Felt IA [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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I agree. I wonder if Trek owns a patent on the seat tube storage box they created. It's exciting to see companies start thinking about integration and storage instead of just aero all the time. I want a fast bike but I want storage too!

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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IIRC, I recall seeing a Trek patent on that box (because my social life is such that I sometimes spend my evenings browsing Google Patents). That said, there's no way Trek or anyone could sue over bottle bosses on the rear of the seat tube. I'd imagine Orbea, Felt, and probably others to follow will put the bosses there and rely on the aftermarket to provide a solution.
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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keqwow wrote:
I just found this on BikeRadar:
  • IA FRD LTD UHC Ultimate, TeXtreme frame and fork; Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 group; 52/36t Rotor crankset; Zipp 404 Firestrike wheels; Felt TTR1 tires US$16,999

$17K. Impressive, don't you think?

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Re: The New Felt IA [Runner Rick] [ In reply to ]
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Well, the Zipp 404 Firestrikes account for $3600 of that price.

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Re: The New Felt IA [Runner Rick] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, pretty darn high. But I also think $2999 is very reasonable. And they hit the full range in between. I think it is going to be a VERY interesting year for Felt.


Runner Rick wrote:
keqwow wrote:
I just found this on BikeRadar:
  • IA FRD LTD UHC Ultimate, TeXtreme frame and fork; Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 group; 52/36t Rotor crankset; Zipp 404 Firestrike wheels; Felt TTR1 tires US$16,999

$17K. Impressive, don't you think?
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Hmm...article doesn't list the IA4 which is the Ultegra drivetrain and training wheelset. That was my just-have-to-convince-the-wife bike to buy this winter. Guess I'll be leaning towards the IA 14.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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Liaman wrote:
Its an appealing package, that's for sure.

As well as being easier to wrench for those of us who travel a lot or are less capable mechanics, TriRig claim that with the right cockpit and brakes it could be as fast (faster?) Than the integrated version

Whilst I'm sceptical about it being potentially faster, I'm sure that it could be made close enough for most of us to not mind

As far as an overall package of bike & positioning, which is what's important, The IAx is almost certainly a faster choice for most athletes.

Man, how would you like to be Orbea and QR right now? $3K for a 105 IA is tough to beat - especially with that Bayonette 3 aero bar. Hope Felt makes a bunch of them.

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Re: The New Felt IA [dgunthert] [ In reply to ]
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Or just get the 2015 IA4

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Seems like from Felt's perspective the "advanced" frame is a significant upgrade over the "performance". The price differential b/tw the IA2 (advanced) and the IA10 (performance) is $5k and both are Ultegra Di2. I don't know anything about the wheels but I can't imagine they account for much of that delta.
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Jim@EROsports wrote:
As far as an overall package of bike & positioning, which is what's important, The IAx is almost certainly a faster choice for most athletes.

Is this due to ability to tilt the pads and the extensions together? Or is it some other factor of positioning?

Also without the integrated front end it may be more difficult to get a torhans 30 to fit close to the head tube.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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Jim@EROsports wrote:

Man, how would you like to be Orbea and QR right now? $3K for a 105 IA is tough to beat - especially with that Bayonet 3 aero bar.


It's bad news for everyone else. Most adjustable and probably fastest out of the box in that price range thanks to the bar
At least for Cervelo there is room to upgrade bits to get to the same price but still it's easier to just get the IAx

Very high convergence in sizing on these latest 3 bikes (assuming IAx geo same as on the Big Daddy). Amazingly (given their terrible history) Orbea have done the best job of size range:




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Re: The New Felt IA [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Tempting!
Rocking the Felt IA4 now but this new baby look soooo much easier to travel with due to the new cockpit.

A sweet new base bar and a omega front brake and you are riding a rocket probably as fast a the fully integrated one. The bosses on the rear of the frame for "Trek like speedbox" looks promising as well.
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Aerogeeks is reporting the new Felt IAx wont be out until December: http://aerogeeks.com/...-line-up-first-look/
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I wonder how much longer it will take ST to get the article up on the new FELT line up. Seems like they are way behind on this so I hope the have some additional news that Aerogeeks, TriRig, Bikerumor and others have not already posted.

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Re: The New Felt IA [shredz2000] [ In reply to ]
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So it's really the IA3 that's going away. The new IA3 has the same specs as the current IA4 (TriMax Pro TT crankset, Ultegra drivetrain, TTR3 wheelset), but with a $500 higher price tag. Guess Felt decided the IA4 was just a bit too good of a deal.
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Re: The New Felt IA [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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BMANX wrote:
I wonder how much longer it will take ST to get the article up on the new FELT line up. Seems like they are way behind on this so I hope the have some additional news that Aerogeeks, TriRig, Bikerumor and others have not already posted.

I'm sure this line-up has Dan's attention, and I'm guessing he has some thoughts he wants to take some time to share. Think about it...Felt really threw down on the industry for 2016. This line-up, at these price points, who matches what they're offering? I'm guessing some product managers around the industry are having some sleepless nights right about now because, unless there are some surprises I don't know about (very possible), Felt is going to dominate tri sales next year.

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
I agree. I wonder if Trek owns a patent on the seat tube storage box they created. It's exciting to see companies start thinking about integration and storage instead of just aero all the time. I want a fast bike but I want storage too!


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Re: The New Felt IA [James Haycraft] [ In reply to ]
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Do you purposefully seek out my posts to make me look like some sort of hypocrite?

A bike with integration that is designed properly can be a fast bike. That's exactly what I meant by my statements. Aero always but companies need to think about ways to have integration not affect speed.

All of the bikes in the past have been aero, aero, aero. That's great. But we need to store stuff and make it aero as well. A well designed, low yaw performance bike with storage options that don't affect aero properties is the perfect tri bike

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Ever since the original Speed Concept good triathlon bikes have been designed around aero integration. This isn't a new concept.

And yes, I do do that because I know you and because I find it amusing haha.

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Re: The New Felt IA [James Haycraft] [ In reply to ]
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James Haycraft wrote:
Ever since the original Speed Concept good triathlon bikes have been designed around aero integration. This isn't a new concept.

And yes, I do do that because I know you and because I find it amusing haha.

Hahahah I knew you would say that.

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Any photos of the IA16? I have seen the 10 and 14

I'm gonna pre order next week

Hard work is faster then aero
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Re: The New Felt IA [surfNJmatt] [ In reply to ]
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http://aerogeeks.com/...-line-up-first-look/

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Re: The New Felt IA [surfNJmatt] [ In reply to ]
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Is your shop taking orders already? I've never pre-ordered a bike... do they charge a deposit?
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They only have pics of the 10 & 14

It's on the chain stay

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Re: The New Felt IA [surfNJmatt] [ In reply to ]
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for those who are not yet tired of talking about this new frame motif, my own thoughts on it are up on the front page.

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Re: The New Felt IA [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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is an innerd a portmanteau for inner nerd?

Do you have the full geo chart?

Franco has a 70mm HT, but their stack is clearly wrong (claimed 447)
Basso Konos has a 60mm HT so their claimed 455 is probably right

There are others in the same range as the IAx. Though not by much.


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Re: The New Felt IA [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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i think the S/R i got is right, because i asked one of their engineers who got it from another engineer and i suspect these guys got it right off their solidworks files. plus, a 60-something-mm head tube on the smallest size, that's congruent with a 470mm-ish stack, depending on BB drop.

the engineer i talked to was out of the office. when he's back i'll see if i can get him to show me the entire geo chart, which is supect they just haven't collated yet for all the sizes.

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Re: The New Felt IA [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Slowman wrote:
i think the S/R i got is right, because i asked one of their engineers who got it from another engineer and i suspect these guys got it right off their solidworks files. plus, a 60-something-mm head tube on the smallest size, that's congruent with a 470mm-ish stack, depending on BB drop.

I trust Felt to calculate Stack. It's Franco that I'm less confident in. IAx must raise the BB compared to IA to get that stack.

Bringing up Basso and Franco was just taking your bet on lowest stack ;-)

While you're asking them questions - price of the IAx frameset?


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Re: The New Felt IA [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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$2,500. which i take to mean between that price at $2,200 depending on the dealer. a lot of these companies quote high range for MSRP. and, it depends on what else you buy, i would think. i want a frame plus i want blah blah blah.

to me, this is a very interesting option for somebody who wants to scrounge around, PBK, flo wheels. it's not that much more than an open mold frameset, so you pay a few hundred bucks for the security of what a brand gives you (which i can list for those who're interested in that topic).

my beef with this industry was frames that started at $4,500 and went up to $10,000. this left little room for the tinkerer who wanted a really first class frame at a reasonable price.

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Re: The New Felt IA [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Any idea what the new lower tier IA frame costs?

I'm thinking of getting it and building it into a road bike.
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Re: The New Felt IA [logella] [ In reply to ]
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logella wrote:
fugly
This trend towards these seriously oversized tube sizes had better be for good reason, because this and the Shiv Tri are truly fugly IMO.
Still cant imagine myself shelling out the dollars required regardless of how much faster this bike is than my P3C (and I doubt it would be anywhere near enough faster to justify even the smallest outlay)
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Re: The New Felt IA [Andrew69] [ In reply to ]
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Andrew69 wrote:
logella wrote:
fugly

This trend towards these seriously oversized tube sizes had better be for good reason, because this and the Shiv Tri are truly fugly IMO.
Still cant imagine myself shelling out the dollars required regardless of how much faster this bike is than my P3C (and I doubt it would be anywhere near enough faster to justify even the smallest outlay)

I guess it is all personal opinion. I've never personally liked the design of the Speed Concept. I might concede that the proportions of the Shiv are a little off (potentially unappealing), but the IA is totally sexy IMO. Put a set of racing wheels on it and it becomes one of the sexiest bikes I've seen. But again, that is just MY opinion.
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Totally agree, each to their own.

What I am happy about though, is that manufacturers are pushing the envelope and moving away from UCI regulations.
Im sure sooner or later that will result in a fast bike that I like the look of!
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Re: The New Felt IA [Andrew69] [ In reply to ]
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Which do you like the most and why of all the current superbikes?

Dimond, Ventum, Cervelo P5, Trek Speed Concept, Felt IA, Quintana Roo PR6 or Specialized Shiv? (probably forgot a few)

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This could be a whole new thread....my personal opinion....
I like the Felt IA the best.
Dimond and Falco V are also pretty sweet but definitely cost more than I am willing to cough up.
Cervelo P5 isn't bad but doesn't get me super excited. Same goes for the Trek Speed Concept...not really a huge fan of the looks.
The ugliest of the bunch though, again, IMO, is the Ventum. If I am going to use the term 'fugly', I would reserve it for the Ventum.
But that is just me and my thoughts.

Rick


BryanD wrote:
Which do you like the most and why of all the current superbikes?

Dimond, Ventum, Cervelo P5, Trek Speed Concept, Felt IA, Quintana Roo PR6 or Specialized Shiv? (probably forgot a few)
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I actually like the look of the Ventum. I saw the P5 today at my local shop. I still get excited when I see it but sometimes I think it looks out of date compared to all the new stuff

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Yeah, it goes back to personal opinion again. I keep looking at the Ventum trying to "like" it, but there is just something about the lines I don't like. I can wrap my head around the looks of the Dimond/Falco being so different from a conventional bike, but i just can't seem to learn to like the Ventum.
The QR P6 is a cool looking bike but it doesn't really stand out compared to the rest of the bikes on the list you just mentioned. Everything else really pops out when you walk through transition and eyeball everyone's bikes.


BryanD wrote:
I actually like the look of the Ventum. I saw the P5 today at my local shop. I still get excited when I see it but sometimes I think it looks out of date compared to all the new stuff
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BryanD wrote:
Which do you like the most and why of all the current superbikes?

Dimond, Ventum, Cervelo P5, Trek Speed Concept, Felt IA, Quintana Roo PR6 or Specialized Shiv? (probably forgot a few)
I know my post is rather (ok, very!) subjective (yes I'm Shallow Hal when it comes to bikes), but I like where the folks at Dimond and especially Ventum are headed (build the fastest bike period). Both bikes also look good to me.
The SC has never swayed me either way (love how Trek were first with storage integration)
Felt just looks too chucky to me (yet if the AR was more widely available in Oz I would have it right up there on a list of potential aero road bikes to purchase)
The QR is much like the Trek, never really gave it much thought.
Love the look of the Shiv TT. Shiv Tri, nope.
The P5 had me going when first released (I ride a P3C now), but just seems too much trouble to travel with (Im not saying it is, just my impression from reading various threads on various topics about the P5)
A P3 on the other hand would suit me just fine.
The Plasma 5 also seems to fit the bill, but again, availablity here isn't great

In the end, even my P3C is more than enough bike for me, so all this is nothing more than chin wagging on my part.
And as I said, Im gald all the manfacturers are taking tri more seriously these days and thinking outside the box, giving our sport such a wide variety of bikes to choose from and pushing the envelope with each new design
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Re: The New Felt IA [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Is there any word on potential UK pricing yet?
I can't imagine the base model retailing for less than 2,500.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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have no idea about uk pricing.

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I'm hoping someone comes up with a new Hotta-like frame, that always looked the fastest to me. Deep down we all know that beyond a P3C with a tidy front end, you're better off training more than spending on the latest and greatest super bike, so it really just boils down to aesthetics and the love of new toys.

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Re: The New Felt IA [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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Bikeradar has the UK pricing: http://www.bikeradar.com/...e-up-revealed-44526/

Edit: Nevermind, the IA1x are missing :(
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Slowman wrote:
my beef with this industry was frames that started at $4,500 and went up to $10,000. this left little room for the tinkerer who wanted a really first class frame at a reasonable price.

I like framesets because I get left with so many parts after a build on a complete bike. Saddles, bars, cranks, wheels, brake calipers are the usual suspects. I have a small army of Fi'zi:k Arione Tri Ti saddles as I can't remember the last time I let a bike leave with that horrible saddle on. Much simpler to build up with quality parts from the beginning.

Felt generally pretty good - my AR1 frameset priced well enough that it wasn't much penalty at all to build with Campag Chorus, EE Brakes, Quarq etc.

I don't even see it as a matter of getting a first class frameset and scrounging the rest - it's things like the powermeter (probably 50% of bikes I sell will have one), making sure rim width and 1st cog location are the same between training and racing wheels, right bars etc.

Have already pestered the distributor about IAx pricing...


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Re: The New Felt IA [lsousa] [ In reply to ]
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That's actually quite useful, thanks.

I can look at the dollar costs for the bikes listed in the Bikeradar article and get a rough idea of $ -> conversion for prices
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Re: The New Felt IA [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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New article from Aero Geeks
http://aerogeeks.com/...-felt-ia-first-look/

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone have pics of the IA 16?
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Re: The New Felt IA [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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Any idea on a ship date????
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Re: The New Felt IA [metcalf34] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone like this bike more than the IA? The bottle cage mounts on the downtube and the mount on the back of the seatpost seems so much nicer than the regular IA

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BryanD wrote:
Does anyone like this bike more than the IA? The bottle cage mounts on the downtube and the mount on the back of the seatpost seems so much nicer than the regular IA

Well the mounts on the back of the seat tube are of questionable use so far, we will have to wait and see if anyone comes up with a good use for them.

But yes, I think lots of people like the IAx better than the IA.
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Re: The New Felt IA [metcalf34] [ In reply to ]
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metcalf34 wrote:
Any idea on a ship date????
I read December on the IA10 and IA14, and January on the IA16.

FYI - Felt has not decided, according to what I was told last Friday, whether or not the IA10 frameset will be available for purchase.

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Re: The New Felt IA [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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I think with the right aerobar and the TriRig Omega X brake, the IAx could test faster than the IA.

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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I am told the IA16 info was premature and it will be announced for a spring 2016 release (just for the ia16)

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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This. Or a Magura front, although the rear mount won''t handle one.
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
Which do you like the most and why of all the current superbikes?

Dimond, Ventum, Cervelo P5, Trek Speed Concept, Felt IA, Quintana Roo PR6 or Specialized Shiv? (probably forgot a few)

i like the dimond the most personally out of the ones you listed looks good and fast but i think that canyon prototype that frodo and nils rode is the best because they solved flat, hydration and nutrition storage with a long-low geometry ( !!!!!!! )
i like the new ia that came out that is cheap due to the better geometry and price for an amazing frame would probably actually buy this one
spec shiv is not a superbike
ventum is probably the worst looking bike on the market imo but i really like the originality and i think it's probably a great bike
p5 is p5
the 7.5 sc is a pretty good deal
i think i would prefer the cd0.1 over the pr6
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Sort of ridiculous to think it would be faster. W out a wind tunnel we have no idea...
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Re: The New Felt IA [bluesmachine] [ In reply to ]
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Considering Felt themselves said the bare frame is actually faster (the head-tube is now 1:11 without the Bayonet fairing), it's not ridiculous at all. If it's the stock components that slow it down, then potentially a better bar, stem and brake combo would match, if not improve, on the IA. Let's not forget that there's some evidence (admittedly biased, as it's manufacturer data) that shows a P2 with TriRig cockpit ends up a touch faster than a P5-Six.

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Re: The New Felt IA [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
BryanD wrote:
Does anyone like this bike more than the IA? The bottle cage mounts on the downtube and the mount on the back of the seatpost seems so much nicer than the regular IA

Well the mounts on the back of the seat tube are of questionable use so far, we will have to wait and see if anyone comes up with a good use for them.

But yes, I think lots of people like the IAx better than the IA.

I'd be curious to see how people get on with putting an aero bottle cage there and using it for their feed bottle, rather than putting it on the downtube.

An Xlab TT or similar.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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I have pretty long arms (can grab a behind-the-seat bottle with the other arm still in the bars) but even I wouldn't consider an aero bottle (with the finicky cages) a viable option back there. Now, a Torhans VR cut open as a repair-kit holder, that sounds more like what I'd do with that option.

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Re: The New Felt IA [tessar] [ In reply to ]
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The fussiness of the cage was the issue that I had in mind. I hadn't considered reach as a limiter (pretty long armed myself).

A Torhans flat kit would be a good use, but then we're just looking at a low tech version of what the SC has. Plus, I was trying to think of more diverse uses than repair kit.
Hopefully the aftermarket will step up and create something a little more fitted, I can't understand why Felt won't put a few people on it.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe something like the seat tube box on the new Orbea


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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Holy awkward looking. I would think something shallower and taller could be designed which would likely be more aero, no?
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Re: The New Felt IA [IronStork] [ In reply to ]
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Well, if it went any lower, it would interfere with the Omega X brake

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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It could go lower and sit right above and fill in that area just above the rear brake a bit better.

It would also look better if it followed the same lines at the top tube

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Hopefully XLAB, Torhans, Profile Design, and others will come up with something

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BryanD wrote:
Hopefully XLAB, Torhans, Profile Design, and others will come up with something

I do wonder how the bottle mounts are positioned on the seat tube. Are they always a set distance below the top tube no matter the frame size? Or are they always the same distance above the seat stays regardless the frame size? Or do the vary based on the frame size? If they are based off the seatstays, then I think one design could fit snuggly down low following the tire ala speedconcept draft box. If they are positioned off the top tube, if only one box is designed maybe on large sizes it would look like the Ordu and small sizes be close to the tire. When I look at that Ordu I see a box designed to work on the smallest frame, but mounted to a large frame. You see this on the speedconcept where on the small sizes the top of the box is above the top tube and large sizes the top of the box is below the top tube, but medium it lines up perfectly.
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Re: The New Felt IA [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
BryanD wrote:
Hopefully XLAB, Torhans, Profile Design, and others will come up with something


I do wonder how the bottle mounts are positioned on the seat tube. Are they always a set distance below the top tube no matter the frame size? Or are they always the same distance above the seat stays regardless the frame size? Or do the vary based on the frame size? If they are based off the seatstays, then I think one design could fit snuggly down low following the tire ala speedconcept draft box. If they are positioned off the top tube, if only one box is designed maybe on large sizes it would look like the Ordu and small sizes be close to the tire. When I look at that Ordu I see a box designed to work on the smallest frame, but mounted to a large frame. You see this on the speedconcept where on the small sizes the top of the box is above the top tube and large sizes the top of the box is below the top tube, but medium it lines up perfectly.



The seat angle seems to fit properly for the SC rear box. Wonder if Dave can chime in as to whether the P5-6 fork/aduro/magura fits? The rear brake (Shimano post rather than single hole) would be a problem, of course....
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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"new reigning king of superbikes"

....but it is *really* any faster?
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Re: The New Felt IA [aahydraa] [ In reply to ]
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The p5 beard and brake covers likely wouldn't clear the bulged out headtube. The fork should fit though.
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Re: The New Felt IA [aahydraa] [ In reply to ]
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I think the problem with the SC draft box and the felt will be the seat stays. Trek's are much higher-which hide the box. Felts are much lower.

Great thought though.
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Gotta save money for this new bike.
Damn it's nice looking bike.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Me_XMan] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, I wonder when they will be posting the geometry specs on the new IA. I have to assume they will be slightly different from the original IA models?
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone seen an image of the new Felt IA16 yet? Only images I can find on the internet are from the IA10 and IA14. I really like the looks of the IA14 but I think it is a satin/matte finish on the bike and after a matte black / grey road bike I promised myself never to buy a bike with a matte finish again.pita to keep it clean.
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Re: The New Felt IA [siemons] [ In reply to ]
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I expect it will also be a matte finish since all of the other versions (I believe) have that satin/matte finish.
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Re: The New Felt IA [siemons] [ In reply to ]
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There are no images as its release date is waaaay off in the future. Not out until spring 2016. That's the rumours I read anyway.

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Re: The New Felt IA [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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I thought it was January 2016 on the IA16 and December of this year for the IA10 and IA14? I could be wrong.
http://aerogeeks.com/2015/07/16/a-new-felt-a-new-line-up-first-look/
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Re: The New Felt IA [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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Okay. Just have to wait then. Hopefully the new IAs will be at the Eurobike show.
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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keqwow wrote:
Yeah, I wonder when they will be posting the geometry specs on the new IA. I have to assume they will be slightly different from the original IA models?

have a look at the article on the front page. they're a little lower which is very handy


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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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You're probably right because I was going off memory. Looks like with age it's getting fuzzy. I'm also only following this story a bit as I've already got myself an IA ;) I think it's going to be great for folks to get their hands on these new models. This bike is a rod of lightening!!!

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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Scheduled for a fit and pre-order this Wednesday, I'll see if I can get more info from the dealer!
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Re: The New Felt IA [SBR28] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave, why are there no bottle bosses on the seat post of the IA? This looks like a wonderful idea and seems weird to not include it on the flagship bike. Or is there something we are missing? 😉
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Re: The New Felt IA [kscheiris] [ In reply to ]
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kscheiris wrote:
SuperDave, why are there no bottle bosses on the seat post of the IA? This looks like a wonderful idea and seems weird to not include it on the flagship bike. Or is there something we are missing? 😉

Bottle bosses on the seatpost could prevent the post from sliding in and out of the frame and would require significant exposed seatpost to allow both bosses to be used.

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe he meant seat tube rather than seat post? I haven't looked at the flagship IA.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Emma'sDad] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, my mistake, I did mean seat tube. From the pictures of the FRD with the new logo, I can't see any bosses.

Also is the IA1 frameset still going to be a thing?
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Re: The New Felt IA [kscheiris] [ In reply to ]
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kscheiris wrote:
Yes, my mistake, I did mean seat tube. From the pictures of the FRD with the new logo, I can't see any bosses.
Also is the IA1 frameset still going to be a thing?

The IA frameset did not change.
We'll offer an IA1 and the frameset option will remain.

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave,

What is your recommendation on rear hydration systems for 2015 IA with a Sitero saddle?

Thank you.
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Anyone know if the Felt IA 10 will be sold as a frameset? I have read/heard that it would and would be priced at $2,500. But have also read/heard that a frameset would not be made available. Felt is usually pretty good about making foremasts available for sale.
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Re: The New Felt IA [burninglegs] [ In reply to ]
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I haven't seen any news on it. If the frame set isn't available in 2016 you can bet after they can get on top of all the full bike orders they will launch the frame set. That's how it has been historically.

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
kscheiris wrote:
Yes, my mistake, I did mean seat tube. From the pictures of the FRD with the new logo, I can't see any bosses.
Also is the IA1 frameset still going to be a thing?


The IA frameset did not change.
We'll offer an IA1 and the frameset option will remain.

-SD

Hey Superdave,

So apart from the possibly new aesthetics/paintjob, I take it that the IA 1 frame-set will remain the same.

I know it's a sensitive topic to ask... but will the price point of the IA1 frame-set be adjusted or remained the same?

Thanks.
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Re: The New Felt IA [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. I hadn't either, but might have missed something. I have seen some reference to there being a frameset and others saying no frameset would be made available.

Really hoping Felt does offer the frameset. At $2,500 this would be one of the best bang for the bucks for a new frame. Would allow one to build it up exactly as you wanted. Especially for those that prefer SRAM or Campy.
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Re: The New Felt IA [JohnHK] [ In reply to ]
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JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
kscheiris wrote:

Hey Superdave,
So apart from the possibly new aesthetics/paintjob, I take it that the IA 1 frame-set will remain the same.
I know it's a sensitive topic to ask... but will the price point of the IA1 frame-set be adjusted or remained the same?
Thanks.

It depends on where you purchase it.

-SD

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SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
kscheiris wrote:

Hey Superdave,
So apart from the possibly new aesthetics/paintjob, I take it that the IA 1 frame-set will remain the same.
I know it's a sensitive topic to ask... but will the price point of the IA1 frame-set be adjusted or remained the same?
Thanks.

It depends on where you purchase it.

-SD

Sure, I understand the msrp will vary depending on region.

One last question, is the paint scheme for the IA1 frameset going to remain as the matte black stealth look as the only option? Or are will it be something new?

Depending on the color I may order now or wait a few months, but either way I'm locked on the IA1 frameset option.

Cheers.
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SuperDave, can you comment on whether Felt will sell the IA 10/IAx frameset for 2016?
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
kscheiris wrote:

Hey Superdave,
So apart from the possibly new aesthetics/paintjob, I take it that the IA 1 frame-set will remain the same.
I know it's a sensitive topic to ask... but will the price point of the IA1 frame-set be adjusted or remained the same?
Thanks.


It depends on where you purchase it.

-SD

+! on the questions of JohnHK and burninglegs regarding availability and price of the Felt IA, more likely the 10x series. Hoping for a price quote (after dealer haggling) of less than 2,500, to be competitive with the Trek SC price wise for frame.
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JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
kscheiris wrote:

Hey Superdave,
So apart from the possibly new aesthetics/paintjob, I take it that the IA 1 frame-set will remain the same.
I know it's a sensitive topic to ask... but will the price point of the IA1 frame-set be adjusted or remained the same?
Thanks.

It depends on where you purchase it.

-SD

Sure, I understand the msrp will vary depending on region.

One last question, is the paint scheme for the IA1 frameset going to remain as the matte black stealth look as the only option? Or are will it be something new?

Depending on the color I may order now or wait a few months, but either way I'm locked on the IA1 frameset option.

Cheers.

If you want the stealth black it may warrant some dealer search (I know there is one in Orange County, CA who had one) as it may not be something a felt dealer can order if felt isn't making as 2016 version. 7 weeks ago I crashed my IA1 and there were none to order so I went with a custom painted FRD.
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waupaca11 wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
kscheiris wrote:

Hey Superdave,
So apart from the possibly new aesthetics/paintjob, I take it that the IA 1 frame-set will remain the same.
I know it's a sensitive topic to ask... but will the price point of the IA1 frame-set be adjusted or remained the same?
Thanks.


It depends on where you purchase it.

-SD


Sure, I understand the msrp will vary depending on region.

One last question, is the paint scheme for the IA1 frameset going to remain as the matte black stealth look as the only option? Or are will it be something new?

Depending on the color I may order now or wait a few months, but either way I'm locked on the IA1 frameset option.

Cheers.


If you want the stealth black it may warrant some dealer search (I know there is one in Orange County, CA who had one) as it may not be something a felt dealer can order if felt isn't making as 2016 version. 7 weeks ago I crashed my IA1 and there were none to order so I went with a custom painted FRD.


My local dealer says that I can place order for the felt IA 1 2015 version but have to wait for 1-2 months before it arrives, but if 2016 has a more attractive paint scheme I may wait a couple of months until i place the order for the 2016 paintjob.

I'm located in Hong Kong btw.

Edit: if production for the 2015 version has already stopped and they are currently working on 2016 version, there's no point of me placing an order so soon now - would love to hear superdave's advice on this :)
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Re: The New Felt IA [Barchettaman] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sold! I'm going to start shopping this fall and see if there is any way to get a deal on it. I'm kind of disappointed in that front brake though;



Why would they go to all the trouble to engineer a new front brake only to leave the cable hanging out in the wind? How much would you say they are giving up compared to the Tri Rig Omega;



It would be a shame to take off that new brake and through it on the shelf. How much difference would it make?

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Re: The New Felt IA [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Problem is, you apparently also need to replace the stem to be able to run the tririg brake. It isn't just the brake that has to be replaced. Yeah, it seems silly to me as well that they would have made all of the changes to the IA for this year only to put that eyesore of a front brake on it. Not sure how much it affects aero, but it is more the principle of it all that sort of bugs me. I'll likely still be in line to order an IA10 nonetheless.
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keqwow wrote:
Problem is, you apparently also need to replace the stem to be able to run the tririg brake. It isn't just the brake that has to be replaced. Yeah, it seems silly to me as well that they would have made all of the changes to the IA for this year only to put that eyesore of a front brake on it. Not sure how much it affects aero, but it is more the principle of it all that sort of bugs me. I'll likely still be in line to order an IA10 nonetheless.

Pretty sure that's not the case.

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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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I need another bike for spring and this will be the pick. Going on TriRig websight,
http://www.tririg.com/...mp;page=windtunnel_1
I see that they say their brake is 5 watts faster than a DA. If it tests like the Simkins (which it looks like), then it's close to the TR. It just doesn't look like it is. Maybe it could just use some creative cabling.

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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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You don't have to replace the stem to use an Omega X or Omega brake

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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I may not be reading this clearly or understanding it but this article leads me to believe you would need to replace the stem for a center pull brake to work. Just quoting from http://www.slowtwitch.com/...ams_its_IA_5210.html
As far as I can tell this is THE stem for this bike no other sizes or pitches (yet). This is a good choice if you're just going to make one stem. Plus, you can stick any standard stem on here you want, though it might not be the cosmetic match that Felt's Tri155 stem gives you. Plus, some stems of this sort are beveled underneath, acting like a headset top cap. I don't know if this is the case with this stem but, if it is, that might make any replacement stem look a little funky if there's a space between the head parts and the bottom of the stem. (When Felt answers my question about its stem I'll add an addendum at the bottom of this article.)

A little bit of me wants to see this bike with a TriRig Sigma stem and an Omega center pull brake. Here's a thought. If I'm Felt I drill a hole with a ferrule stop right in my Tri155 stem, just as TriRig does with its Sigma stem. Then if a customer wants to buy a center pull brake for this bike TriRig, Magura, whatever I only have to buy the front brake caliper and not a new stem.
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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I owned the Omega brakes and now have the Omega X brakes. You don't have to replace the stem. You can use the brake with a cable hanger or without

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Excuse my ignorance with bike brake layouts...I honestly haven't studied them, but would you mind explaining or showing how it works without a cable hanger?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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On the Omega you can choose whether to have the cable stop at the brake, or take that off and have it elsewhere (like the stem or a CX hanger)
For Magura you can't have cable stops
Nothing about the Felt Stem on the IA stops you from using either Magura or Tririg Omega.
The centrepull routing on a SigmaX may not clear the nosecone on the IAx frame so I wouldn't get too excited just yet about the idea of running bare cable. I'm sure this will be one of the first things Nick tries when he gets hold of a frame.


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Re: The New Felt IA [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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If you an use the Omega brake on the IAx frame, then why would you bother with the SigmaX stem?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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You don't have to use the Sigma Stem or the Alpha aerobars. You can use whatever you want. It's not an all or nothing system

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Re: The New Felt IA [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Might want to recheck the numbers. It's actually 5 seconds per 40k if I remember right, which is less than 5 watts. It's more like 1-2 watts.
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave, hope you guys make enough of these bikes and frames. As a potential customer, I'm 99.9% sure I'm going to get one of the IAx bikes. Just amazing value. You have a winner and I think it will be hard for you to keep up with the demand.
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Re: The New Felt IA [burninglegs] [ In reply to ]
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Sure hope they do, and I think the IAx is gonna be a big hit.

I just pulled the trigger on the ia1 frameset, the local reseller told me that the 2015 version already ran out of stock so my frame will be in the 2016 paint scheme / version which will be expected to arrive in Hong Kong on October.

I remember the articles talking about the IAx series will only available this December, so i guess the "old" IA will come first.
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Re: The New Felt IA [burninglegs] [ In reply to ]
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burninglegs wrote:
SuperDave, hope you guys make enough of these bikes and frames. As a potential customer, I'm 99.9% sure I'm going to get one of the IAx bikes. Just amazing value. You have a winner and I think it will be hard for you to keep up with the demand.

Yeah I'll be in line for an IA10 as well.
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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keqwow wrote:
burninglegs wrote:
SuperDave, hope you guys make enough of these bikes and frames. As a potential customer, I'm 99.9% sure I'm going to get one of the IAx bikes. Just amazing value. You have a winner and I think it will be hard for you to keep up with the demand.

Yeah I'll be in line for an IA10 as well.

You guys won't regret it. I can't help but smile every time I'm on my IA. Once you get over the handling when gusts hit those monster tubes it goes like there's no tomorrow.

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Re: The New Felt IA [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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I'm getting one of these this spring, either the 10 if I can get a deal or the 16 if not. When you say that the frame takes a jolt from the wind, do you think that this takes the pressure off of the front wheel. With a disc, what front wheel do you use? How would it feel with two deep wheels on a windy day?

Thanks

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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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keqwow wrote:
burninglegs wrote:
SuperDave, hope you guys make enough of these bikes and frames. As a potential customer, I'm 99.9% sure I'm going to get one of the IAx bikes. Just amazing value. You have a winner and I think it will be hard for you to keep up with the demand.


Yeah I'll be in line for an IA10 as well.

That IA10 is really nice. Personally I am leaning towards the IA16 or IAx frameset (or is it called the IA10 frameset?). I think I would prefer the frameset. We will see. Felt really nailed it with the price points and specs on these bikes imo.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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I've got a 66 front and run a 66 w/Wheel Cover in the rear. Both 23mm Continental GP4000IIS. As to the wind comment. I recall the first ride I took on my IA outside. I on a day with cross winds. My first reaction was immediately "This feels like a sniper rifle". I was just flying without evening hitting Z3 heart rate. Then I did a decent and caught a gust. The bike had noticeable "lift" and required a heavy lean to counter act. Scared me back to earth from the speed cloud 9 I was on. I normally ride an AR so I'm used to cross winds "catching" but I hadn't experienced the IA outdoors much at all and it caught me off guard.

After that single scare I've been appropriately aware and I now have no issues with wind. It's just one of the nuances that make this bike a dream to ride/race.

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Re: The New Felt IA [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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I'm going to be running 404 front and rear on my size 48 frame, my weight is 140 to 145 depending on the time of year.

You think I'll be ok with the cross winds?
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Re: The New Felt IA [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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Can you comment on the handling?
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Re: The New Felt IA [JohnHK] [ In reply to ]
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I ride an IA with zipp 808 front and zipp disc rear. I weigh 150 and the gusts are noticeable but nothing to worry about.
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Re: The New Felt IA [JohnHK] [ In reply to ]
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JohnHK wrote:
I'm going to be running 404 front and rear on my size 48 frame, my weight is 140 to 145 depending on the time of year.

You think I'll be ok with the cross winds?

I'm 5'8" 145 with 66mm front so I don't think you'll have any troubles. I will say make sure you ride on a cross wind heavy day just to be ready come race time.

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Re: The New Felt IA [winchester] [ In reply to ]
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winchester wrote:
Can you comment on the handling?

It's not a road bike but it isn't a handling pig. I can do turn arounds aggressively, weave around roundabouts at 55+ km/h. I've not had any handling issues at all.

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Re: The New Felt IA [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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cshowe80 wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
I'm going to be running 404 front and rear on my size 48 frame, my weight is 140 to 145 depending on the time of year.


You think I'll be ok with the cross winds?


I'm 5'8" 145 with 66mm front so I don't think you'll have any troubles. I will say make sure you ride on a cross wind heavy day just to be ready come race time.


Great to hear, I'm about 5"7... excited to build it up this Oct/Nov and will definitely have lots of chances to ride it in crosswinds all the time.

It will come as the 2016 paint scheme, I'm told this my their facebook page staff in a private message:

"the new version of the IA1 will have a white logo on both the down and head tubes and a bit of white on the chain stays. The main badge on the seat tube will be all grey. Apart from these differences, overall colour looks pretty much the same. Once our website is updated, you will be able to see an image of this product. "
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Any of you guys in between two sizes going to go with the larger size?

I am coming from an old Cervelo P2 size 54 with a frame stack of 512 and reach of 418. The IAx size 54 has a frame stack of 513 and reach of 406. Howver the 56 frame would also work with stack of 537 and reach of 424. Especially with all the adjustability that current aero bars have. Lots of room to dial in the fit. Typically I have always gone with the smaller frame size when between two sizes. But SuperDave has mentioned to size up if you can make the fit work to get the added sail benefit?
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Re: The New Felt IA [burninglegs] [ In reply to ]
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I was between 56 and 58. I went with 58. I also think SuperDave said if you are between get the bigger size.
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Re: The New Felt IA [burninglegs] [ In reply to ]
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Any of you guys in between two sizes going to go with the larger size?

I am coming from an old Cervelo P2 size 54 with a frame stack of 512 and reach of 418. The IAx size 54 has a frame stack of 513 and reach of 406. Howver the 56 frame would also work with stack of 537 and reach of 424. Especially with all the adjustability that current aero bars have. Lots of room to dial in the fit. Typically I have always gone with the smaller frame size when between two sizes. But SuperDave has mentioned to size up if you can make the fit work to get the added sail benefit?

Unless you're expecting to get >6cm of stack between the base bar and the extension mounts go with the larger size.
The larger frame is more aerodynamic and until you get lots of separation between arms and base bar on your cockpit, collapsing that frontal area is faster, too.
Big basebar gap:


minimal gap:

and a combo of 3 with no gap and 1 with 6cm+


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Re: The New Felt IA [aahydraa] [ In reply to ]
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This. Or a Magura front, although the rear mount won''t handle one.

You can run a Magura hydro rear caliper brake on Shimano Direct Mount rear brake mounting standard with an adapter. I recommend the 10 degree tilt version.
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Re: The New Felt IA [trentnix] [ In reply to ]
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metcalf34 wrote:
Any idea on a ship date????
I read December on the IA10 and IA14, and January on the IA16.

FYI - Felt has not decided, according to what I was told last Friday, whether or not the IA10 frameset will be available for purchase.

SuperDave or anyone else, is this timeline still fairly safe to go off of? What about the frameset? Slowman made it sound like the frameset would be sold. Hope that is still the case.
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Re: The New Felt IA [burninglegs] [ In reply to ]
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From what I was told last week the frame set would not be available in the near future. Your best bet will be to buy the IA14 or IA10. The IA16 announcement was premature, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that's a next step.

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Re: The New Felt IA [burninglegs] [ In reply to ]
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burninglegs wrote:
Any of you guys in between two sizes going to go with the larger size?

I am coming from an old Cervelo P2 size 54 with a frame stack of 512 and reach of 418. The IAx size 54 has a frame stack of 513 and reach of 406. Howver the 56 frame would also work with stack of 537 and reach of 424. Especially with all the adjustability that current aero bars have. Lots of room to dial in the fit. Typically I have always gone with the smaller frame size when between two sizes. But SuperDave has mentioned to size up if you can make the fit work to get the added sail benefit?

Choosing the 56, you gain 25mm in stack. Do you have that in spacers on the P2? Sure it's nice to get more sail effect from the larger frame but not if you can't get low enough and you're sitting up like a sail.

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Re: The New Felt IA [burninglegs] [ In reply to ]
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burninglegs wrote:
trentnix wrote:
metcalf34 wrote:
Any idea on a ship date????
I read December on the IA10 and IA14, and January on the IA16.

FYI - Felt has not decided, according to what I was told last Friday, whether or not the IA10 frameset will be available for purchase.


SuperDave or anyone else, is this timeline still fairly safe to go off of? What about the frameset? Slowman made it sound like the frameset would be sold. Hope that is still the case.


IA10 and IA14 both currently have mid October ETAs in the US. The IA16 is currently slated to be a Euro only offering and Jan is still the latest ETA that I am aware of, but I am in our US offices and do not have the latest info on EU arrivals

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Re: The New Felt IA [burninglegs] [ In reply to ]
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burninglegs wrote:
trentnix wrote:
metcalf34 wrote:
Any idea on a ship date????
I read December on the IA10 and IA14, and January on the IA16.
FYI - Felt has not decided, according to what I was told last Friday, whether or not the IA10 frameset will be available for purchase.

SuperDave or anyone else, is this timeline still fairly safe to go off of? What about the frameset? Slowman made it sound like the frameset would be sold. Hope that is still the case.

I'm optimistic about that December delivery date, in fact that might be overly conservative. I'm fairly certain that the demand for these IA-x platforms will ensure very few will be on display waiting for consumers to stroll in and stumble upon their size and model. All frame production is going to IA10 and IA14 demand for the time being. IA10 framekits and what might become an IA16 level bike are well behind from a development standpoint and will be a lower priority to deliver.

In time the IA line will continue to evolve without model year sequencing/chronology and additional integration options and several more models that fit between the flagship IA FRD and *cough, wireless* the proposed IA16.

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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All this talk just keeps getting me more and more excited. I want to see some more photos of the IA10...perhaps something without the white background (white/black bike on a white background makes it look like half the bike isn't there). I'd love to see some photos (even quick shots) of the IA10 with some racing wheels on it just to see what it will look like.
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:

In time the IA line will continue to evolve without model year sequencing/chronology and additional integration options and several more models that fit between the flagship IA FRD and *cough, wireless* the proposed IA16.

-SD

When you say additional integration options, what does this mean? With the IAx series, maybe a tool box on the seat tube? Will Felt come out with a larger Calpac to store more stuff? I know you probably can't say anything yet, but it's definitely exciting to see how Felt will change the IA over time

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
burninglegs wrote:
trentnix wrote:
metcalf34 wrote:
Any idea on a ship date????
I read December on the IA10 and IA14, and January on the IA16.
FYI - Felt has not decided, according to what I was told last Friday, whether or not the IA10 frameset will be available for purchase.

SuperDave or anyone else, is this timeline still fairly safe to go off of? What about the frameset? Slowman made it sound like the frameset would be sold. Hope that is still the case.


I'm optimistic about that December delivery date, in fact that might be overly conservative. I'm fairly certain that the demand for these IA-x platforms will ensure very few will be on display waiting for consumers to stroll in and stumble upon their size and model. All frame production is going to IA10 and IA14 demand for the time being. IA10 framekits and what might become an IA16 level bike are well behind from a development standpoint and will be a lower priority to deliver.

In time the IA line will continue to evolve without model year sequencing/chronology and additional integration options and several more models that fit between the flagship IA FRD and *cough, wireless* the proposed IA16.

-SD

What is the color scheme for the IA16? Is the IA16 even guaranteed to come out?
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Re: The New Felt IA [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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My LBS here in Norway says that I'm might have to wait until March before the IA 10 will arrive if I pre-order it now in the end of August.
Can this be right? I'm gone go mad waiting!!!
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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So, I guess at the Eurobike show next week only the IA10 and IA14 and not the IA16?
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Is this the only aero data we have on the Felt IA so far? I am assuming the IA 10 will be very similar to that.


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Re: The New Felt IA [siemons] [ In reply to ]
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So, I guess at the Eurobike show next week only the IA10 and IA14 and not the IA16?

No, Felt does not plan to display bicycles at Eurobike. I'll be there though with my laptop if you'd like to see some photos, sketches and review some of the data. The best place to be September 1st will be http://www.feltbicycles.com when the complete details of the available IA models and colors will be revealed.

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Re: The New Felt IA [Ahillock] [ In reply to ]
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Ahillock wrote:
Is this the only aero data we have on the Felt IA so far? I am assuming the IA 10 will be very similar to that.


I think it is possible that the IA-x (all versions) could have ever so slightly less drag under +/-10 degrees depending on front brake caliper and base bar selection but almost certainly higher drag from +/- (10-20).
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Holy crap! Am I reading it right that the DA is almost 100 grams slower at all angles to basically all of those bikes? What was used as a baseline? I am just shaking my head at how much time I am losing with that bike now!

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jrielley wrote:
Holy crap! Am I reading it right that the DA is almost 100 grams slower at all angles to basically all of those bikes? What was used as a baseline? I am just shaking my head at how much time I am losing with that bike now!

Yes, but that is with UCI legal trim. You can add the front triangle and battery fairings and reduce those drag numbers but nothing will overcome the lack of high-lift foils that are limited by the 3:1 UCI rules at higher yaw values.

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Re: The New Felt IA [Wil@Felt] [ In reply to ]
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Wil@Felt wrote:
burninglegs wrote:
trentnix wrote:
metcalf34 wrote:
Any idea on a ship date????
I read December on the IA10 and IA14, and January on the IA16.

FYI - Felt has not decided, according to what I was told last Friday, whether or not the IA10 frameset will be available for purchase.


SuperDave or anyone else, is this timeline still fairly safe to go off of? What about the frameset? Slowman made it sound like the frameset would be sold. Hope that is still the case.


IA10 and IA14 both currently have mid October ETAs in the US. The IA16 is currently slated to be a Euro only offering and Jan is still the latest ETA that I am aware of, but I am in our US offices and do not have the latest info on EU arrivals

Euro only? Come on. Bring it to the USA. Why can't we have nice things here too? No IA10 frameset. No IA16. That is hard to take. Rough day today, not to mention needing to go hammer some Z1/Z2 intervals when I get home.
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Ahh that makes sense. I need to buy the battery cover hardware. I have the cover but lost the hardware in my move so I can't put it on the bike!

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Does this statement imply that the color schemes of the IA10 and IA14 might be different than the photos we've seen so far or am I just reading into your comment too much?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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IA10 and IA14 graphic will appear as you've already seen.

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Dave, thanks for your help a while back with my felt f1 pr bottom bracket questions. Your solution has been a success. As for the ia 10 and 14 will there be a frameset available for this line? Also, will it be able to run a mechanical groupset instead of electric?

Thanks. Brooks
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brooks wrote:
Dave, thanks for your help a while back with my felt f1 pr bottom bracket questions. Your solution has been a success. As for the ia 10 and 14 will there be a frameset available for this line? Also, will it be able to run a mechanical groupset instead of electric?

Thanks. Brooks

There is an IA10 frameset in development. It will be some time before bicycle production catches up with demand and bicycles will remain a higher priority for our consumers and dealers than frameset sales thus each frameset made will be outfitted with a complete range of functioning components rather than being sold alone.
The IA10 and IA14 frames are identical from a cable management standpoint. Like the IA produced now they are all compatible with electronic, mechanical, and hydraulic shifting systems.

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Dave
Any chance Felt will produce a seat tube storage box or are they really just going to have the bolts there and leave the box for someone else to develop? I see QR jumped on the bandwagon and has now produced one for their PRsix.
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Where can you buy a IA now days in Texas? No inventory anywhere.
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave has hinted toward accessories coming to enhance the integration of the IA. Please make a draft box!

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Hi, is Felt planning to display the new IA at Interbike?
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Re: The New Felt IA [3Aims] [ In reply to ]
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Where can you buy a IA now days in Texas? No inventory anywhere.

2015 models sold extremely well, so it's possible that none of your local dealers have any available. Unfortunately we cannot see their inventory, so the best bet is to contact dealers directly. We have very limited availability of models/sizes in stock in our US warehouse.

ETA on new IAs is mid-Sept to late-Oct depending on the model.

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Re: The New Felt IA [Wil@Felt] [ In reply to ]
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Are you guys going to be designing a draft box for the new IAs or leaving that up to companies like XLAB or Torhans?

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Re: The New Felt IA [Wil@Felt] [ In reply to ]
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Wil@Felt wrote:
3Aims wrote:
Where can you buy a IA now days in Texas? No inventory anywhere.


2015 models sold extremely well, so it's possible that none of your local dealers have any available. Unfortunately we cannot see their inventory, so the best bet is to contact dealers directly. We have very limited availability of models/sizes in stock in our US warehouse.

ETA on new IAs is mid-Sept to late-Oct depending on the model.

Thanks. That's what I'm being told regarding 2016s.
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
Are you guys going to be designing a draft box for the new IAs or leaving that up to companies like XLAB or Torhans?

Superdave...eager minds want to know :)
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Superdave,

I see the new IA models are officially out on the website!

For the IA1 frameset option, you will need to change the finish options.. I thought it came in 4 color options and then i looked in the IA FRD page which actually reads the same so should be a description error:

"Matte Carbon (Charcoal, Fluoro Blue, Red, White)"

I had my IA1 frameset ordered a week or two ago in Hong Kong, to be honest I really like the new finish a lot more than the previous year..!
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SuperDave wrote:

The IA10 and IA14 frames are identical from a cable management standpoint. Like the IA produced now they are all compatible with electronic, mechanical, and hydraulic shifting systems.


What about the IA16? will it be Di2 compatible and feature batpac?

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Looking at the website information and fit calculator, I see both alloy and carbon aerobar options for the new IAs, and apparently geometries are different... can you please confirm, and share the reasons for this?

Edit: my bet is the IA16 will have different geometry, along with alloy bars to keep cost low. A modified frame is the best reason I can imagine for the release delay. My biggest guess in that case would be Di2 compatbility.

Also, can you provide an explanation to the color code for fit reccomendations in the calculator? I get Best/Great/OK optios, but having solutions color coded in each category is confusing...

Definitely into buying one of these, and trying to iron out the details...

Thanks, I think you guys provide great support here!

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Any plans to make a 61cm IA? Us tall guys want a super bike too!
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You should take the time and read through Dan's articles from earlier this year on this. It's extremely clear and concise. I think it will help you decide which size option will work best for you.

Part 1 - What Size Bike
http://www.slowtwitch.com/...Size_Bike__4947.html

Part 2 - What Sized Bike Continued
http://www.slowtwitch.com/...ize_Part_2_4950.html

Part 3 - Choosing Felt Superbike
http://www.slowtwitch.com/..._Superbike_4935.html


Hope that helps!!!

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Hey Superdave,

I see the new IA models are officially out on the website!

For the IA1 frameset option, you will need to change the finish options.. I thought it came in 4 color options and then i looked in the IA FRD page which actually reads the same so should be a description error:

"Matte Carbon (Charcoal, Fluoro Blue, Red, White)"

I had my IA1 frameset ordered a week or two ago in Hong Kong, to be honest I really like the new finish a lot more than the previous year..!

Our color descriptions list the "main color (then all accent colors)"

You're correct, though... The IA 1 frame color description is wrong. I've already let our web gurus know, so you should see an update soon. Thanks for the heads up!

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Re: The New Felt IA [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks! I'll make sure to read through these.

Sr. Salitre
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Re: The New Felt IA [FranR] [ In reply to ]
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FranR wrote:
Looking at the website information and fit calculator, I see both alloy and carbon aerobar options for the new IAs, and apparently geometries are different... can you please confirm, and share the reasons for this?

Also, can you provide an explanation to the color code for fit reccomendations in the calculator? I get Best/Great/OK optios, but having solutions color coded in each category is confusing...

Definitely into buying one of these, and trying to iron out the details...

Thanks, I think you guys provide great support here!

Where did you see options for either alloy or canon bars with the new IAs? I thought the original IA came with carbon and the new ones had alloy bars. I didn't see options to be able to upgrade to the carbon bars.
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Just fiddle around with the DA/IA fit calculator in their site. You will see fit options combining the 31.8 stem and both alloy and carbon bars (with different spacers to achieve the same S&R values). I have edited my previous post because I think this means a different frame geometry, and alloy bars for the IA16. Also, manuals for both versions of the aerobars are posted on the site, and I cannot notice geometry differences in them...

Sr. Salitre
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Re: The New Felt IA [brian1986] [ In reply to ]
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brian1986 wrote:
Any plans to make a 61cm IA? Us tall guys want a super bike too!

Have you entered your coordinates into the fit calculator?
There are no plans to make a 61cm IA but there are dozens of examples of 1.9m+ guys on the 58cm IA.

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [FranR] [ In reply to ]
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FranR wrote:
SuperDave wrote:

The IA10 and IA14 frames are identical from a cable management standpoint. Like the IA produced now they are all compatible with electronic, mechanical, and hydraulic shifting systems.


What about the IA16? will it be Di2 compatible and feature batpac?

Yes, IA10, IA14 and IA16 frames are identical in terms of component compatibility.
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Unfortunately at 6'7" the 58cm isn't going to work. I understand that you can't make a bike for everyone though. I still love my B12!
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Re: The New Felt IA [brian1986] [ In reply to ]
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brian1986 wrote:
Unfortunately at 6'7" the 58cm isn't going to work. I understand that you can't make a bike for everyone though. I still love my B12!

x2.
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
Are you guys going to be designing a draft box for the new IAs or leaving that up to companies like XLAB or Torhans?

Where are Rinny and Ryf currently storing a tube and repair kit?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Probably inside the Calpac or under the saddle

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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So. Is there suppose to be a silicon or runner piece that fits inside the hole (both sides) of the seatpost? My IA4 doesn't have it but I have noticed it on other Felt IA rides.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Tell3131] [ In reply to ]
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Tell3131 wrote:
So. Is there suppose to be a silicon or runner piece that fits inside the hole (both sides) of the seatpost? My IA4 doesn't have it but I have noticed it on other Felt IA rides.

Yes, there are two strips that snap into place on both sides of the seatpost filling the gap to M6 binder bolt slot.
Each bike comes with 4 strips.

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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If you didn't get them it's available as part of an assessory kit. I think it's the "small parts"kit on the felt site. You can also order through your local dealer.

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Re: The New Felt IA [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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cshowe80 wrote:
If you didn't get them it's available as part of an assessory kit. I think it's the "small parts"kit on the felt site. You can also order through your local dealer.

Yes, that, too.
http://www.felt-stuff.com/...post-slot-cover.html

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
cshowe80 wrote:
If you didn't get them it's available as part of an assessory kit. I think it's the "small parts"kit on the felt site. You can also order through your local dealer.


Yes, that, too.
http://www.felt-stuff.com/...post-slot-cover.html

-SD

Dave is there a difference between the carbon layups in the IA10 vs the IA3? I see the IA10 listed as "Aero TT / Tri UHC Performance carbon fiber" and the IA3 as "Aero Tri UHC Advanced carbon fiber". Is there a difference between "Advanced" and "Performance"?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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keqwow wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
cshowe80 wrote:
If you didn't get them it's available as part of an assessory kit. I think it's the "small parts"kit on the felt site. You can also order through your local dealer.


Yes, that, too.
http://www.felt-stuff.com/...post-slot-cover.html

-SD


Dave is there a difference between the carbon layups in the IA10 vs the IA3? I see the IA10 listed as "Aero TT / Tri UHC Performance carbon fiber" and the IA3 as "Aero Tri UHC Advanced carbon fiber". Is there a difference between "Advanced" and "Performance"?


Yes, Advanced and Performance use different blends of carbon fibers.

SD explains the differences, here: Felt Carbon Fiber

*edit* Link fixed

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Re: The New Felt IA [Wil@Felt] [ In reply to ]
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The link you posted doesn't work.


Wil@Felt wrote:
keqwow wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
cshowe80 wrote:
If you didn't get them it's available as part of an assessory kit. I think it's the "small parts"kit on the felt site. You can also order through your local dealer.


Yes, that, too.
http://www.felt-stuff.com/...post-slot-cover.html

-SD


Dave is there a difference between the carbon layups in the IA10 vs the IA3? I see the IA10 listed as "Aero TT / Tri UHC Performance carbon fiber" and the IA3 as "Aero Tri UHC Advanced carbon fiber". Is there a difference between "Advanced" and "Performance"?


Yes, Advanced and Performance use different blends of carbon fibers.

SD explains the differences, here: Felt Carbon Fiber
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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It's too bad the frameset options are limited to the IA1 and FRD and there's not something a bit more affordable.

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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Cuz I don't got a job...

https://vimeo.com/130236004


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Re: The New Felt IA [Cafe Lactate] [ In reply to ]
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My order has been placed for an IA10. A lot of money for me and a lot of second guessing but I can't wait to see it. Dealer tells me mid October so we will see. The big follow up question will be whether I should go with Flo 60/90 wheels with white decales or black on the IA10 white/black canvas?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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I'm thinking this might be the way to go:

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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Looks great, but I would recommend putting tires on your wheels, it is more aerodynamic.
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Re: The New Felt IA [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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True....only so much one can do in Photoshop though. While tires would certainly be possible, I wanted to get a better idea of what the wheels would look like on the bike and really didn't feel like spending any more time on it. :)
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Wow, that looks great. Congrats on the new ride.

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Congrats will be more in order once I actually have it in-hand and I can hopefully get myself properly fitted on it. Then I can post some 'REAL' photos. Either way I am excited to finally be getting a true tri-bike. I think it will be a heck of an upgrade from my cyclocross bike with attached aero bars that I've been using in my triathlons the last three years now.
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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keqwow wrote:
Congrats will be more in order once I actually have it in-hand and I can hopefully get myself properly fitted on it. Then I can post some 'REAL' photos. Either way I am excited to finally be getting a true tri-bike. I think it will be a heck of an upgrade from my cyclocross bike with attached aero bars that I've been using in my triathlons the last three years now.

Eh?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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I would do the blue decals to match some of the blue in the frame

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If same color blue maybe but otherwise I would think different shades of blue might clash. I can play with it in Photoshop a little and test it out.
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Re: The New Felt IA [walie] [ In reply to ]
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walie wrote:
keqwow wrote:
Congrats will be more in order once I actually have it in-hand and I can hopefully get myself properly fitted on it. Then I can post some 'REAL' photos. Either way I am excited to finally be getting a true tri-bike. I think it will be a heck of an upgrade from my cyclocross bike with attached aero bars that I've been using in my triathlons the last three years now.

Eh?

I had a fitting earlier this week but my fitter apparently has me in a very non-aggressive position which Spit out some odd numbers that were weird when trying to figure out the proper size in this bike. However he could easily fit me on three different sizes of Speed Concept frame (brand he sells) and recommended the large as the best fit which is really only a couple mm difference from the 56 in the IA10 so that is what I ordered.
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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keqwow wrote:
I'm thinking this might be the way to go:
Wow... looks great. I am looking forward to the real pics..
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Re: The New Felt IA [mtbxcjan] [ In reply to ]
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>>>IA 10, 14, 16


Interesting model names. Sounds like something made by Lockheed Martin. It is loud, it is far, hard to see, and ruins your day when it gets close.
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote: I would do the blue decals to match some of the blue in the frame


The blue is nice, but I think I still lean towards the black/white...somehow looks a little faster to me.

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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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What about the stealth blue?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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I love the blue Flo wheels on that frame

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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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I was thinking stealth black with the blue lines would be a nice combo as well.
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Re: The New Felt IA [lytic] [ In reply to ]
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lytic wrote:
I was thinking stealth black with the blue lines would be a nice combo as well.

like this?


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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Disc/90 would be better
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!!!!
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Nice. But I'm torn between the black and white and the stealth blue. White and blue distant third for me.
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Re: The New Felt IA [lytic] [ In reply to ]
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All are nice, but I still like my original layout the best...the black/white wheels on the black/white frame.
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Dave,
Is there an updated fit guide for the IAx models? The online spreadsheet only works with the integrated IAs.
Will there be different stem options for IAx? I'm looking to order one but I'm not sure I can get as low as 625 stack with the stock configuration for size 56 IA14. My fit coordinates are 625/500 (mid pad).
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Re: The New Felt IA [walie] [ In reply to ]
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IA14 Version...with 60/Disc Flos



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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Dave,

In the past I've criticized some of the bikes Felt has produced. You guys did a great job with the IA's. Well thought out bikes. They test well, they are fairly easy to work on and I'm digging the 2 frame bottles for training.

I've got a short list of bikes I'd be willing to ride if I was racing and this bike is right at the top. I've already recommended the IA 10 to a couple of my athletes who are getting new bikes for next season.

Great job, you guys knocked it out of the park!

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Re: The New Felt IA [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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desert dude wrote:
Dave,
In the past I've criticized some of the bikes Felt has produced. You guys did a great job with the IA's. Well thought out bikes. They test well, they are fairly easy to work on and I'm digging the 2 frame bottles for training.
I've got a short list of bikes I'd be willing to ride if I was racing and this bike is right at the top. I've already recommended the IA 10 to a couple of my athletes who are getting new bikes for next season.
Great job, you guys knocked it out of the park!

Brian,
Thanks for your note. Don't let me off the hook easily.
Your (collective) criticism is what helps drive us to make the product better.

Cheers,
SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
desert dude wrote:
Dave,
In the past I've criticized some of the bikes Felt has produced. You guys did a great job with the IA's. Well thought out bikes. They test well, they are fairly easy to work on and I'm digging the 2 frame bottles for training.
I've got a short list of bikes I'd be willing to ride if I was racing and this bike is right at the top. I've already recommended the IA 10 to a couple of my athletes who are getting new bikes for next season.
Great job, you guys knocked it out of the park!



Brian,
Thanks for your note. Don't let me off the hook easily.
Your (collective) criticism is what helps drive us to make the product better.

Cheers,
SD

Well then, not a criticism but rather a nudge; you need to get to work on a nice storage box for those bolts on the seat post ;)
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IA14 with the SC SpeedBox (photoshop trimmed)


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Re: The New Felt IA [SBR28] [ In reply to ]
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That combination just looks bad ass... Screams speed to me!
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Re: The New Felt IA [SBR28] [ In reply to ]
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I know discs are faster,but I just don't like the way they look. How about this?

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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Don't give up the extra speed over looks! I think discs look awesome. The white labels is just too much white. Blue looks better!

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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Nice! I like that combo too! Will actually have both 60/90 and 60/Disc with the IA14 when it arrives. Just need to swap out the stickers to match the frame and swap out the groupset with my existing UDi2. Can't wait!

And I do prefer the Stealth Blue over the White...
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
Don't give up the extra speed over looks! I think discs look awesome. The white labels is just too much white. Blue looks better!

When I get to within 45 seconds of breaking 5 hours in my 70.3 races I'll throw on some wheel covers. My first 70.3 this year was completed in 5:52 so I have a long ways to go and plenty of other things I can do to shave some major time (like maintain a run for the entire 13.1 miles) 😉
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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You're still giving up time. Aero always works for you, no matter the speed.

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Consider it 'resistance training' until I am worthy of a disc 😉
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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I still don't think you understand. A disc will make you faster. You don't have to go a certain speed for it to work. You don't have to be "worthy". Not using a disc when you know it's the faster option is a stupid choice.

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Re: The New Felt IA [mtbxcjan] [ In reply to ]
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I get mine Oct 22. I'll post pics when she arrives. Am going to get those Felt white rubber grips, the ones that have the end that rises. I hate the flat base bars as I feel as though I'm one hard bump from falling off the front of the bars.

Kar-Ming
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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By that logic what makes you worthy of your new bike?
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Re: The New Felt IA [walie] [ In reply to ]
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That's exactly what I thought. Keqwow is buying a really fast bike but doesn't want to use a disc wheel because he's not worthy he feels like. However, if he truly hates the look of a disc and won't ride his bike because of it, then just go with the slower wheels

When will the disc myths do away?

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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What disc myths? Ok...so explain this to me then;
So according to FLO's website and the wind tunnel results, if I average 20 mph, the disc will save me about 47 seconds over a FLO 90 in the course of a half-ironman.

Tell me then, why so many pros were racing without a disc at the 70.3 World Championship? Why doesn't EVERYONE race with a disc in the events that allow it?

(not trying to start an argument here, just asking for my own education)
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Not all races allow discs. Kona, Cozumel, and others won't let you use a disc. Also, not every pro has a wheel sponsor that has a disc wheel. You race with what they give you if you want to be paid

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HED has a disc. Why would Daniella Ryf not be riding that at the 70.3 world championship. A lot of pros running Zipps so why not the disc? I am just assuming there must be more to it.
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Ryfs coach, Brett Sutton, won't let women ride discs. It's a stupid decision.

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Why the heck not?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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He thinks they have bad ride quality. His website is full of stuff that Slowtwitch has proven wrong many times

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The women or the discs? But he lets the guys ride with them? Why guys but not girls? Doesn't seem to make a difference in the case of Ryf. She could ride training wheels and still finish the bike ride with 5-7 minutes on the rest of the field.
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Ryf most likely would have won Kona had she had more aero gear on the bike

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She exited T2 almost 15 minutes ahead of Carfrae and Carfrae won by 2 minutes. What could she have possibly improved on aero-wise on the bike to have given her 17 minutes over 112 miles?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Deeper wheels, aero clothing, aero helmet

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Aero helmet ~1.5 minutes
Disc wheel ~1.5 minutes
She wasn't in aero clothing?

Still a long way off shaving 17 minutes off her time
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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She had 15 minutes on Carfrae at T2. She only needed 2 minutes to win

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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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she didn't need to shave 17 minutes, she needed around 2-3
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You're right. My bad, I'm getting tired and my brain isn't thinking straight. Time for bed.
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She left time on the course with this setup


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But doesnt't the enormous surface area of both the IA frame and disc wheel make you an enormous victim to crosswinds?
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Jeez!

Please tape some more shit on the IA and try some get some clothes with more wrinkles. That picture of someone loosing Kona by 2 min is way to aero for me to handle ;-)

At least the QR are pointed in an aero direction and she will get her Kona crown this year.
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keqwow wrote:
So according to FLO's website and the wind tunnel results, if I average 20 mph, the disc will save me about 47 seconds over a FLO 90 in the course of a half-ironman.

It's more than that thanks to power to rotate. Flo data only gives translational drag.
Plus - getting faster is about making lots of little decisions that help towards the goal:
Don't eat that brownie
Don't kill the alarm and roll over
Use evidence based training methods
Work on your bike position
Make smart equipment choices (like IA vs some of the other options)

keqwow wrote:
Tell me then, why so many pros were racing without a disc at the 70.3 World Championship? Why doesn't EVERYONE race with a disc in the events that allow it?

Being good at training and making smart equipment choices are not necessarily things that go together.


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its doubly interesting as they were on same/similar frames





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cyclenutnz wrote:


It's more than that thanks to power to rotate.


What kind of wattage differences are we actually talking here?

EDIT:
And do you know if this still applies to wheels with covers?
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Also trying to choose the right size for an IAx (the IA 14). My first tri bike. Got fitted to a stack of 559 and a reach of 433. Focussed on long distance for next year, so maybe for shorter distances and after getting used to this position I can get just a bit lower. Should I get a 56 or a 58? SuperDave, what are your thoughts on this?
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larsvanzanten wrote:
Also trying to choose the right size for an IAx (the IA 14). My first tri bike. Got fitted to a stack of 559 and a reach of 433. Focussed on long distance for next year, so maybe for shorter distances and after getting used to this position I can get just a bit lower. Should I get a 56 or a 58? SuperDave, what are your thoughts on this?

Ha! I thought you were giving your pad stack and reach. I was certain you'd be a 48cm.
On the IAx you have the option of a very low pad position because of the clip-on nature of the aerobars. I'm still struggling to illustrate just how adjustable the front of this bike is. More than 100mm of vertical adjustment is possible from lowest to highest position.

The 58cm frame has less aerodynamic drag over a -20/0/20 sweep and the longer wheelbase aids in a stable, straight-line path.
I would recommend a "slammed" front end on a 58cm over a 56cm with 2cm of extra bar stack, 2cm more pad reach on the extensions with more of your rider weight over the front wheel.

It sounds like your inexperience with triathlon position might also better be served by the 58cm because it will allow for a upright posture as you acclimate to a "textbook" position.

In general on the IA, go as big as you can without going too big as the slight aero hit of the smaller frame cannot offset an upright parachute position if you could have tolerated/adapted to a lower posture.

-SD

Dave Koesel - Category Leader Roval, Power, On-bike Components
https://rovalcomponents.com/
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Dave, will I fit on a 56 IAx with the stock bar & stem? My pad coordinates are 625(including pad)/500(mid pad).
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Re: The New Felt IA [larsvanzanten] [ In reply to ]
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larsvanzanten wrote:
But doesnt't the enormous surface area of both the IA frame and disc wheel make you an enormous victim to crosswinds?

No.
The bike's sidewind handling is better than bikes with less side-surface area and lower stall angles.

-Dave

Dave Koesel - Category Leader Roval, Power, On-bike Components
https://rovalcomponents.com/
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
larsvanzanten wrote:
Also trying to choose the right size for an IAx (the IA 14). My first tri bike. Got fitted to a stack of 559 and a reach of 433. Focussed on long distance for next year, so maybe for shorter distances and after getting used to this position I can get just a bit lower. Should I get a 56 or a 58? SuperDave, what are your thoughts on this?

Ha! I thought you were giving your pad stack and reach. I was certain you'd be a 48cm.
On the IAx you have the option of a very low pad position because of the clip-on nature of the aerobars. I'm still struggling to illustrate just how adjustable the front of this bike is. More than 100mm of vertical adjustment is possible from lowest to highest position.

The 58cm frame has less aerodynamic drag over a -20/0/20 sweep and the longer wheelbase aids in a stable, straight-line path.
I would recommend a "slammed" front end on a 58cm over a 56cm with 2cm of extra bar stack, 2cm more pad reach on the extensions with more of your rider weight over the front wheel.

It sounds like your inexperience with triathlon position might also better be served by the 58cm because it will allow for a upright posture as you acclimate to a "textbook" position.

In general on the IA, go as big as you can without going too big as the slight aero hit of the smaller frame cannot offset an upright parachute position if you could have tolerated/adapted to a lower posture.

-SD

Brilliant, thanks for your quick reply! So The 58 will still give me enough wiggle room to go even lower in the next years?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Just to chime in on this (sorry guys if it's a bit late) but the wheel choice is based on the conditions, race director equipment restrictions, sponsorship and course profile. I think at the 70.3 WC there was a lot of people who chose to go the route of less weight due to the large climb that was on course. Also when courses are technical it takes a bit more effort each time to spin a disc wheel up than a lighter one so you may benefit from not using a disc.

In the end I will say the Flo 90 with Disc cover is a good option rather than not having another rear wheel besides the disc. That being said I've yet to encounter a course here in Ontario (Toronto) that is better without a disc cover (which is what I use on my IA). In cross winds you won't notice the rear wheel because you'll be too busy with the sensations of the front end being "nudged" in the direction of the wind. The bike has a feeling of forward encouragement as it acts like a sail "lifting" you up in a way. That's what they claim anyway and I'm yet to average 40km/h on any other bike so I'm inclined to agree. Don't wait for a disc cover or wheel because you have to earn it, just get the equipment you need to optimize your budget and performance evenly.

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"Train so you have no regrets @ the finish line"
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Re: The New Felt IA [larsvanzanten] [ In reply to ]
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Do retail shops have the IA10 or IA14 yet? I know they are taking pre-orders but can I go look at one at my local Felt dealer or is that still a month or so off?

Trisumai noted they will be receiving theirs Oct 22nd. Is this roughly the earliest we should expect anyone to have one in hand?
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
Ryf most likely would have won Kona had she had more aero gear on the bike

Difficult to know how much faster Rinny could have run last year but Ryf certainly left some time on the bike. Watch this year's bike leg and compare. She's adopted changes to correct many of the observations people have made since last year.

-SD

Dave Koesel - Category Leader Roval, Power, On-bike Components
https://rovalcomponents.com/
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Re: The New Felt IA [larsvanzanten] [ In reply to ]
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larsvanzanten wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
larsvanzanten wrote:
Also trying to choose the right size for an IAx (the IA 14). My first tri bike. Got fitted to a stack of 559 and a reach of 433. Focussed on long distance for next year, so maybe for shorter distances and after getting used to this position I can get just a bit lower. Should I get a 56 or a 58? SuperDave, what are your thoughts on this?


Ha! I thought you were giving your pad stack and reach. I was certain you'd be a 48cm.
On the IAx you have the option of a very low pad position because of the clip-on nature of the aerobars. I'm still struggling to illustrate just how adjustable the front of this bike is. More than 100mm of vertical adjustment is possible from lowest to highest position.

The 58cm frame has less aerodynamic drag over a -20/0/20 sweep and the longer wheelbase aids in a stable, straight-line path.
I would recommend a "slammed" front end on a 58cm over a 56cm with 2cm of extra bar stack, 2cm more pad reach on the extensions with more of your rider weight over the front wheel.

It sounds like your inexperience with triathlon position might also better be served by the 58cm because it will allow for a upright posture as you acclimate to a "textbook" position.

In general on the IA, go as big as you can without going too big as the slight aero hit of the smaller frame cannot offset an upright parachute position if you could have tolerated/adapted to a lower posture.

-SD


Brilliant, thanks for your quick reply! So The 58 will still give me enough wiggle room to go even lower in the next years?

That depends on how low you are now. You just gave me frame stack reach, not pad stack reach. There's lots of wiggle room but if you're already on the ground floor, you may not be able to go lower.

-SD

Dave Koesel - Category Leader Roval, Power, On-bike Components
https://rovalcomponents.com/
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Re: The New Felt IA [dsmallwood] [ In reply to ]
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dsmallwood wrote:
its doubly interesting as they were on same/similar frames





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Yes, it looks like she has cleaned things up a bit....
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Superdave,

What frame size would you recommend in the new IA for these coordinates?

Arm pad reach 490 (back of pad) so probably 510-520 to center of pad
Arm pad stack 596 (top of pad)
Saddle height 779

Thanks,
Gareth
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
larsvanzanten wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
larsvanzanten wrote:
Also trying to choose the right size for an IAx (the IA 14). My first tri bike. Got fitted to a stack of 559 and a reach of 433. Focussed on long distance for next year, so maybe for shorter distances and after getting used to this position I can get just a bit lower. Should I get a 56 or a 58? SuperDave, what are your thoughts on this?


Ha! I thought you were giving your pad stack and reach. I was certain you'd be a 48cm.
On the IAx you have the option of a very low pad position because of the clip-on nature of the aerobars. I'm still struggling to illustrate just how adjustable the front of this bike is. More than 100mm of vertical adjustment is possible from lowest to highest position.

The 58cm frame has less aerodynamic drag over a -20/0/20 sweep and the longer wheelbase aids in a stable, straight-line path.
I would recommend a "slammed" front end on a 58cm over a 56cm with 2cm of extra bar stack, 2cm more pad reach on the extensions with more of your rider weight over the front wheel.

It sounds like your inexperience with triathlon position might also better be served by the 58cm because it will allow for a upright posture as you acclimate to a "textbook" position.

In general on the IA, go as big as you can without going too big as the slight aero hit of the smaller frame cannot offset an upright parachute position if you could have tolerated/adapted to a lower posture.

-SD


Brilliant, thanks for your quick reply! So The 58 will still give me enough wiggle room to go even lower in the next years?


That depends on how low you are now. You just gave me frame stack reach, not pad stack reach. There's lots of wiggle room but if you're already on the ground floor, you may not be able to go lower.

-SD

Woops, sorry. Completely new to this whole bike fit world and its terms :-)

My arm pad stack (BB vertical to top of arm pad) is 677. Arm pad reach (BB horiz to back of pad) is 430.
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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keqwow wrote:
dsmallwood wrote:
its doubly interesting as they were on same/similar frames





-



Yes, it looks like she has cleaned things up a bit....



whoa! much better. the top picture looks like a pro on a training ride.
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Re: The New Felt IA [IronStork] [ In reply to ]
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IronStork wrote:
Do retail shops have the IA10 or IA14 yet? I know they are taking pre-orders but can I go look at one at my local Felt dealer or is that still a month or so off?

Trisumai noted they will be receiving theirs Oct 22nd. Is this roughly the earliest we should expect anyone to have one in hand?

IA 10/14 have not arrived in the US, yet. Mid Oct is the current ETA to our CA warehouse.

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Re: The New Felt IA [Wil@Felt] [ In reply to ]
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That was also the estimate from my Felt dealer when I placed my order for an IA10, mid October.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Wil@Felt] [ In reply to ]
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This may still be under wraps but has there been any news on the color scheme of the IA16 ?
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Re: The New Felt IA [gerardm] [ In reply to ]
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Sure, this bike was leaked and is listed by some of our global distributors already.

-SD

Dave Koesel - Category Leader Roval, Power, On-bike Components
https://rovalcomponents.com/
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Make Inside Out Sports your next online tri shop! http://www.insideoutsports.com/
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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the... suspense... is... ki

x(
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Re: The New Felt IA [gerardm] [ In reply to ]
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I read matte black - silver - fluo red. Hope it looks a bit like the new IA2 which has a great combo
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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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I see listings on some international vendors but I haven't found ant photos of an IA16 yet. Not that it really matters since I've already placed my order for an IA10. I can't wait to finally have a real tri bike!
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Re: The New Felt IA [Gjadams] [ In reply to ]
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Gjadams wrote:
Superdave,

What frame size would you recommend in the new IA for these coordinates?

Arm pad reach 490 (back of pad) so probably 510-520 to center of pad
Arm pad stack 596 (top of pad)
Saddle height 779

Thanks,
Gareth

Gareth,
You'll be on a 54cm with 20mm risers and depending on the rotation of the base bar (horizontal or angled up) perhaps 0mm, +5mm or 10mm spacer under the 20mm threaded riser.
-SD

Dave Koesel - Category Leader Roval, Power, On-bike Components
https://rovalcomponents.com/
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks!
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Re: The New Felt IA [Gjadams] [ In reply to ]
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Hey guys.
Just a thought here, and can't seem to understand the reasoning behind this.

If I have the option right now to get a 2015 IA4 for the same price as the new 2016 1A10, why would anyone here go with the IA10?

IA4 is running mechanical, and integrated brakes.
IA10 is DI2.

Just want to understand which one is the better buy.

Thanks!
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Re: The New Felt IA [yunach] [ In reply to ]
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Thats easy, the ia10+ is cheaper and more adjustable
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Re: The New Felt IA [mtbxcjan] [ In reply to ]
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mtbxcjan wrote:
Thats easy, the ia10+ is cheaper and more adjustable

The IA4 (2015 model) is actually the same price as the IA10 that will be coming out soon.
I guess its on clearance.
More adjustable yes, but not cheaper..
If its the same price, you still take the new IA10?

IA4-Ultegra, mechanical, integrated brakes-2015
IA10-Ultegra DI2, nice old fashioned brakes-2016
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Re: The New Felt IA [yunach] [ In reply to ]
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I meant cheaper because youll get DI2. Position is everything and youll get the chance to use every stem/bar combo with the IA10. For me it would be IA10...
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Re: The New Felt IA [mtbxcjan] [ In reply to ]
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mtbxcjan wrote:
I meant cheaper because youll get DI2. Position is everything and youll get the chance to use every stem/bar combo with the IA10. For me it would be IA10...

I think you mean to say that for the same amount of dollars, the IA10 would be a better value because of DI2 over mechanical for the drivetrain components. But, Yeah, I'd chose IA10 over the IA4 (2015) if I was shopping for a new Tri bike and that was my budget range. Have exposed vs regular brakes doesn't make the difference between winning and losing for me....I not a budding pro prospect or a FOP AG'er. I haven't won the lottery yet to just buy the most expensive one....
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Hey SD,

Just two questions before my IA1 frameset arrives in Hong Kong next month (time frame according to my LBS)

Does the IA1 frameset kit come with Bottom bracket bearings, or will I need to purchase them separately and install them?
- If so, are they the typical BB30 bearings?

Will the frame have enough clearance for the Pioneer dual-sided Powermeter with Dura-ace 9000 cranks?
- If not, I may have to look at other powermeter options for this new machine

Thanks,
John
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Re: The New Felt IA [JohnHK] [ In reply to ]
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JohnHK wrote:
Hey SD,

Just two questions before my IA1 frameset arrives in Hong Kong next month (time frame according to my LBS)

Does the IA1 frameset kit come with Bottom bracket bearings, or will I need to purchase them separately and install them?
- If so, are they the typical BB30 bearings?

Will the frame have enough clearance for the Pioneer dual-sided Powermeter with Dura-ace 9000 cranks?
- If not, I may have to look at other powermeter options for this new machine

Thanks,
John

John,
I don't include the bottom bracket bearings on the framekits. I have no way to anticipate which crankset each consumer may use and there are abundant options for BB designs. As you are using Shimano, I'd recommend the 24mm outboard bearing thread-together unit from Ceramicspeed or WheelsManufacturing.
The Pioneer crankset will fit but you'll need to locate the magnets on the top of the chainstays, the seat stays or the downtube. The stick-on magnets do not fit on the chainstays.

The guys at Pioneer have been very helpful in getting the position dialed in on our frames, if you'd like me to put you in contact with them about changing the position of the magnet pick up on the arms' sensors, let me know.

-SD

Dave Koesel - Category Leader Roval, Power, On-bike Components
https://rovalcomponents.com/
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
Hey SD,


Just two questions before my IA1 frameset arrives in Hong Kong next month (time frame according to my LBS)

Does the IA1 frameset kit come with Bottom bracket bearings, or will I need to purchase them separately and install them?
- If so, are they the typical BB30 bearings?

Will the frame have enough clearance for the Pioneer dual-sided Powermeter with Dura-ace 9000 cranks?
- If not, I may have to look at other powermeter options for this new machine

Thanks,
John


John,
I don't include the bottom bracket bearings on the framekits. I have no way to anticipate which crankset each consumer may use and there are abundant options for BB designs. As you are using Shimano, I'd recommend the 24mm outboard bearing thread-together unit from Ceramicspeed or WheelsManufacturing.
The Pioneer crankset will fit but you'll need to locate the magnets on the top of the chainstays, the seat stays or the downtube. The stick-on magnets do not fit on the chainstays.

The guys at Pioneer have been very helpful in getting the position dialed in on our frames, if you'd like me to put you in contact with them about changing the position of the magnet pick up on the arms' sensors, let me know.

-SD


Thanks for your reply SD,


I'm still considering about the Pioneer as my power unit.

But if I was to go with Shimano Dura-ace 9000 Crankset, is this the bottom bracket converter I'm looking at from Ceramic Speed (Or similar product from different companies):

http://www.ceramicspeed.com/sport/products/BottomBrackets/product/CSBB11040101000/BB30-Shimano-Road

What difference would it make if I was to install BB30 bearings on the frame and use "BB30 to 24mm Crank Spindle Shims" VS the type of converter in the link above from Ceramic Speed?



Thanks!
John

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Re: The New Felt IA [JohnHK] [ In reply to ]
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JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
Hey SD,


Just two questions before my IA1 frameset arrives in Hong Kong next month (time frame according to my LBS)

Does the IA1 frameset kit come with Bottom bracket bearings, or will I need to purchase them separately and install them?
- If so, are they the typical BB30 bearings?

Will the frame have enough clearance for the Pioneer dual-sided Powermeter with Dura-ace 9000 cranks?
- If not, I may have to look at other powermeter options for this new machine

Thanks,
John


John,
I don't include the bottom bracket bearings on the framekits. I have no way to anticipate which crankset each consumer may use and there are abundant options for BB designs. As you are using Shimano, I'd recommend the 24mm outboard bearing thread-together unit from Ceramicspeed or WheelsManufacturing.
The Pioneer crankset will fit but you'll need to locate the magnets on the top of the chainstays, the seat stays or the downtube. The stick-on magnets do not fit on the chainstays.

The guys at Pioneer have been very helpful in getting the position dialed in on our frames, if you'd like me to put you in contact with them about changing the position of the magnet pick up on the arms' sensors, let me know.

-SD


Thanks for your reply SD,


I'm still considering about the Pioneer as my power unit.

But if I was to go with Shimano Dura-ace 9000 Crankset, is this the bottom bracket converter I'm looking at from Ceramic Speed (Or similar product from different companies):

http://www.ceramicspeed.com/sport/products/BottomBrackets/product/CSBB11040101000/BB30-Shimano-Road

What difference would it make if I was to install BB30 bearings on the frame and use "BB30 to 24mm Crank Spindle Shims" VS the type of converter in the link above from Ceramic Speed?



Thanks!
John

John,

I highly recommend the Pioneer unit. It is an incredible piece of engineering and offers unrivaled metrics when paired with their computer.
The conversion shims introduce another area of potential creaking from tolerance stack up.
The larger 42mm O.D x 30mm I.D. bearing is also marginally heavier typically. Shimano units often use 37OD/24ID size.

-SD

Dave Koesel - Category Leader Roval, Power, On-bike Components
https://rovalcomponents.com/
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
Hey SD,


Just two questions before my IA1 frameset arrives in Hong Kong next month (time frame according to my LBS)

Does the IA1 frameset kit come with Bottom bracket bearings, or will I need to purchase them separately and install them?
- If so, are they the typical BB30 bearings?

Will the frame have enough clearance for the Pioneer dual-sided Powermeter with Dura-ace 9000 cranks?
- If not, I may have to look at other powermeter options for this new machine

Thanks,
John


John,
I don't include the bottom bracket bearings on the framekits. I have no way to anticipate which crankset each consumer may use and there are abundant options for BB designs. As you are using Shimano, I'd recommend the 24mm outboard bearing thread-together unit from Ceramicspeed or WheelsManufacturing.
The Pioneer crankset will fit but you'll need to locate the magnets on the top of the chainstays, the seat stays or the downtube. The stick-on magnets do not fit on the chainstays.

The guys at Pioneer have been very helpful in getting the position dialed in on our frames, if you'd like me to put you in contact with them about changing the position of the magnet pick up on the arms' sensors, let me know.

-SD


Thanks for your reply SD,


I'm still considering about the Pioneer as my power unit.

But if I was to go with Shimano Dura-ace 9000 Crankset, is this the bottom bracket converter I'm looking at from Ceramic Speed (Or similar product from different companies):

http://www.ceramicspeed.com/sport/products/BottomBrackets/product/CSBB11040101000/BB30-Shimano-Road

What difference would it make if I was to install BB30 bearings on the frame and use "BB30 to 24mm Crank Spindle Shims" VS the type of converter in the link above from Ceramic Speed?



Thanks!
John


John,

I highly recommend the Pioneer unit. It is an incredible piece of engineering and offers unrivaled metrics when paired with their computer.
The conversion shims introduce another area of potential creaking from tolerance stack up.
The larger 42mm O.D x 30mm I.D. bearing is also marginally heavier typically. Shimano units often use 37OD/24ID size.

-SD


Thanks for the quick reply and your recommendation with the Pioneer unit, SD!

I will probably avoid the shims then.

Can I confirm that the Ceramic Speed "BB30 Shimano Road" will be compatible for the frame: - if so, I will order one so my LBS can install it by the time the frame arrives:

http://www.ceramicspeed.com/...00/BB30-Shimano-Road



Thanks again,
John
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Re: The New Felt IA [JohnHK] [ In reply to ]
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JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
Hey SD,


Just two questions before my IA1 frameset arrives in Hong Kong next month (time frame according to my LBS)

Does the IA1 frameset kit come with Bottom bracket bearings, or will I need to purchase them separately and install them?
- If so, are they the typical BB30 bearings?

Will the frame have enough clearance for the Pioneer dual-sided Powermeter with Dura-ace 9000 cranks?
- If not, I may have to look at other powermeter options for this new machine

Thanks,
John


John,
I don't include the bottom bracket bearings on the framekits. I have no way to anticipate which crankset each consumer may use and there are abundant options for BB designs. As you are using Shimano, I'd recommend the 24mm outboard bearing thread-together unit from Ceramicspeed or WheelsManufacturing.
The Pioneer crankset will fit but you'll need to locate the magnets on the top of the chainstays, the seat stays or the downtube. The stick-on magnets do not fit on the chainstays.

The guys at Pioneer have been very helpful in getting the position dialed in on our frames, if you'd like me to put you in contact with them about changing the position of the magnet pick up on the arms' sensors, let me know.

-SD


Thanks for your reply SD,


I'm still considering about the Pioneer as my power unit.

But if I was to go with Shimano Dura-ace 9000 Crankset, is this the bottom bracket converter I'm looking at from Ceramic Speed (Or similar product from different companies):

http://www.ceramicspeed.com/sport/products/BottomBrackets/product/CSBB11040101000/BB30-Shimano-Road

What difference would it make if I was to install BB30 bearings on the frame and use "BB30 to 24mm Crank Spindle Shims" VS the type of converter in the link above from Ceramic Speed?



Thanks!
John


John,

I highly recommend the Pioneer unit. It is an incredible piece of engineering and offers unrivaled metrics when paired with their computer.
The conversion shims introduce another area of potential creaking from tolerance stack up.
The larger 42mm O.D x 30mm I.D. bearing is also marginally heavier typically. Shimano units often use 37OD/24ID size.

-SD


Thanks for the quick reply and your recommendation with the Pioneer unit, SD!

I will probably avoid the shims then.

Can I confirm that the Ceramic Speed "BB30 Shimano Road" will be compatible for the frame: - if so, I will order one so my LBS can install it by the time the frame arrives:

http://www.ceramicspeed.com/...00/BB30-Shimano-Road



Thanks again,
John

John,
Yes, it should fit but I have no personal experience with this. I have the aforementioned Wheels unit installed on several bikes now and have also used the budget KCNC version.
-SD

Dave Koesel - Category Leader Roval, Power, On-bike Components
https://rovalcomponents.com/
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
JohnHK wrote:
Hey SD,


Just two questions before my IA1 frameset arrives in Hong Kong next month (time frame according to my LBS)

Does the IA1 frameset kit come with Bottom bracket bearings, or will I need to purchase them separately and install them?
- If so, are they the typical BB30 bearings?

Will the frame have enough clearance for the Pioneer dual-sided Powermeter with Dura-ace 9000 cranks?
- If not, I may have to look at other powermeter options for this new machine

Thanks,
John


John,
I don't include the bottom bracket bearings on the framekits. I have no way to anticipate which crankset each consumer may use and there are abundant options for BB designs. As you are using Shimano, I'd recommend the 24mm outboard bearing thread-together unit from Ceramicspeed or WheelsManufacturing.
The Pioneer crankset will fit but you'll need to locate the magnets on the top of the chainstays, the seat stays or the downtube. The stick-on magnets do not fit on the chainstays.

The guys at Pioneer have been very helpful in getting the position dialed in on our frames, if you'd like me to put you in contact with them about changing the position of the magnet pick up on the arms' sensors, let me know.

-SD


Thanks for your reply SD,


I'm still considering about the Pioneer as my power unit.

But if I was to go with Shimano Dura-ace 9000 Crankset, is this the bottom bracket converter I'm looking at from Ceramic Speed (Or similar product from different companies):

http://www.ceramicspeed.com/sport/products/BottomBrackets/product/CSBB11040101000/BB30-Shimano-Road

What difference would it make if I was to install BB30 bearings on the frame and use "BB30 to 24mm Crank Spindle Shims" VS the type of converter in the link above from Ceramic Speed?



Thanks!
John


John,

I highly recommend the Pioneer unit. It is an incredible piece of engineering and offers unrivaled metrics when paired with their computer.
The conversion shims introduce another area of potential creaking from tolerance stack up.
The larger 42mm O.D x 30mm I.D. bearing is also marginally heavier typically. Shimano units often use 37OD/24ID size.

-SD


Thanks for the quick reply and your recommendation with the Pioneer unit, SD!

I will probably avoid the shims then.

Can I confirm that the Ceramic Speed "BB30 Shimano Road" will be compatible for the frame: - if so, I will order one so my LBS can install it by the time the frame arrives:

http://www.ceramicspeed.com/...00/BB30-Shimano-Road



Thanks again,
John


John,
Yes, it should fit but I have no personal experience with this. I have the aforementioned Wheels unit installed on several bikes now and have also used the budget KCNC version.
-SD


SD,

Sure, the Wheels Manufactoring component you have mentioned should be the ones included in the link below that has (SHIMANO) in the product title then?:

http://wheelsmfg.com/bottom-brackets/bb30-outboard/bb30-outboard-bottom-brackets.html


I'm really considering this route now that I have seen it, as CeramicSpeed components do "Come at a Cost".


Thanks,
John

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Yes. another perk to the Wheels unit is the ability to run ACB or XD bearings from Enduro as an option.
ACB allows pre-load, as designed into the Shimano system with an end-cap + pinch bolt closure.
XD-15 bearings are simply the highest grade steel ball available and exclusive to Enduro options in wheels BBs.

-SD

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I've looked at this bike with interest, but I can't seem to find the stat I need. I'm tall (6'4") but all arms and legs (pants inseam of 38" and measured inseam to the floor of 99 cm). My current seatpost height is set at 89 cm. Will the seatpost of one of the IA frames go that high?

Once I find that out I can start to worry about stack and reach.

Thanks

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keqwow wrote:
lytic wrote:
I was thinking stealth black with the blue lines would be a nice combo as well.

like this?


That looks boss !
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any pics of IA 16 color scheme?
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Do you happen to know if one can use a specialized sworks crank set with the IA10?
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Any pics of the IA16 that still have valid links? The one listed in this thread is dead.

Really interested in what the color scheme will be on this one!

An international shop has the colors listed a Black, Silver, Red with no picture. Valid?
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gerardm wrote:
This may still be under wraps but has there been any news on the color scheme of the IA16 ?

I found this on a Japanese site. Looks like a rendering but legit maybe Dave or Will can comment.



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That might look a little too badass for a bike running 105s

Strava
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This is what I want the frame only to look like, would go very well with a set of Hadrons.
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Superdave, what do you mean by adding the front triangle? I already have the battery cover and Torhans frame mounted bottle in my DA, but never heard about the front triangle.
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I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you are referring to.

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Sorry, the previous post was not quoted.


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jrielley wrote:
Holy crap! Am I reading it right that the DA is almost 100 grams slower at all angles to basically all of those bikes? What was used as a baseline? I am just shaking my head at how much time I am losing with that bike now!

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Yes, but that is with UCI legal trim. You can add the front triangle and battery fairings and reduce those drag numbers but nothing will overcome the lack of high-lift foils that are limited by the 3:1 UCI rules at higher yaw values.

That is the front triangle I am referring to.

Arturo


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I was referring to the made-to-fit TorHans bottle
SD

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Dave,

Since you're on here....i may have missed it in a previous post, but I can't see the IA 16 for 2999$ on your website. Also is there a new IA frame set only option?

Maurice
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That looks awesome. Looking forward for a real picture of the IA16 but if that is going to be color scheme, its a big change the IA16 will be my first tri-bike.
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Dave,

Since you're on here....i may have missed it in a previous post, but I can't see the IA 16 for 2999$ on your website. Also is there a new IA frame set only option?

Maurice

I think Felt are holding off on IA 16, I think they are going to sell out all of the IAx they make, so no reason to offer the cheaper one initially. I may sadly be another year until the IA 16 and the IAx frameset is offered.
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I was thinking along those lines. If there's a $3k IA16, and if it looks like that photo, who would buy a B-Series bike? If the IA16 does come, I'm guessing it's after they sell through the current stock of B's, and then only a $2k B will remain for next year. Just a guess.

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I hope you're wrong but bet you are correct. I'm eyeing the 16 myself. My old Elite T-Class needs to be retired!
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Wow, that paint scheme looks way better than I expected!

I was told the IA16 will be at least 6 months away at the soonest. Remember: Felt doesn't do model years any more, they release bikes whenever they think it's a good idea.

I went for the IA14. Like the looks of the IA10 better, but it's relatively expensive compared to the IA14 in Euros.
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Dave,

Since you're on here....i may have missed it in a previous post, but I can't see the IA 16 for 2999$ on your website. Also is there a new IA frame set only option?

Maurice

It's at least 6 months away.
IA10 and IA14 first.
-SD

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Talked to LBS shop today and they mentioned they didn't expect to get the IA10 and 14 in until mid-November. Is this an accurate nationwide delivery date? I was under impression from some prior posts we were looking at October. Would love to hear from anyone who may have pre-ordered or SuperDave?
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I think that for my first tri bike I will buy the IA14 (for a 70.3 eaglemen 2016 and full IRONMAN 2017) but I would like to have your ideas:
- which aero hydration system would you recommend?
- do you think that Chinese 60mm carbon wheels will be a nice thing to put on
- do they have another color because honestly I'm not a fan of that yellow
- I'm 5'11, had a 54 Cannondale caad8 with aerobars before and should I go more for a 54 or 56?
Thanks
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FlorianNY wrote:
I think that for my first tri bike I will buy the IA14 (for a 70.3 eaglemen 2016 and full IRONMAN 2017) but I would like to have your ideas:
- which aero hydration system would you recommend?
- do you think that Chinese 60mm carbon wheels will be a nice thing to put on
- do they have another color because honestly I'm not a fan of that yellow
- I'm 5'11, had a 54 Cannondale caad8 with aerobars before and should I go more for a 54 or 56?
Thanks


1. Torhans seem to have some pretty good hydration options for the super bikes. Some of their offerings will actually make the bike faster if positioned correctly.
2. Nobody will say Chinese CCs are a great deal when options like FLO Wheels are in the market place. Same price, reputable brand and many happy users
3. The model you chose will only come in one colour scheme per year. If you don't like it you'll have to wait for next years colours for something else or choose another model. The last option is a custom paint job.
4. You body's measurements will not tell you which bike to choose. Triathlon fitting is much more precise than a road bike fit and therefor you should see a professional fitter and get your coordinates from them. Stack and reach are the gold standard for figuring out if the geometry for a bike is a fit for you. If you plan on dropping $3000-4000 on a bike please first protect your investment by spending $200-300 for a professional fit to ensure the bike fits your physiology. Failure to do so would result in you leaving time on the course or needing to purchase aftermarket parts (stem, aero bars, etc) to make the bike fit if at all.

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Mine just arrived to the shop today. Will get fitted later this week and post pics. So excited.
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What state are located? if you don't mind. Mine should be coming soon i guess...pre-ordered first week of august. Thanks!
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Cleveland Ohio
Ordered in September early to mid, I think
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Thanks, can't wait to see your bikes guys, don't hesitate to also provide your own feedback, feeling....;)
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keqwow wrote:
My order has been placed for an IA10. A lot of money for me and a lot of second guessing but I can't wait to see it. Dealer tells me mid October so we will see. The big follow up question will be whether I should go with Flo 60/90 wheels with white decales or black on the IA10 white/black canvas?

Did your bike arrive?
Got pix?
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IronStork, the IA10 started shipping last week and the IA14 should be shipping this week (week of Nov 2nd).
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@SuperDave do you know how many cm. i can ajust the felt bayonet 3 in the new Felt IA14?
i need to know the differents height to get my optimal position

THx
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@SuperDave do you know how many cm. i can ajust the felt bayonet 3 in the new Felt IA14?
i need to know the differents height to get my optimal position

THx
In addition to this query, will the fit calculator for the IA and DA bikes on the Felt website be updated to include the new IA bikes and account for the geometry and any differences in the cockpit? I've used the calculator to see what size frame it recommends and then assumed I would need an additional 10mm of spacers in the cockpit over the configuration suggested due to the change in geometry for the new versions. However I'm not certain if there are any other cockpit differences.
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https://www.feltbicycles.com/...y_AeroBar_Manual.pdf

On page 8 there is a nice chart that explains the possible stack heights.
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@SuperDave do you know how many cm. i can ajust the felt bayonet 3 in the new Felt IA14?
i need to know the differents height to get my optimal position

THx
Like our latest B-series models there is far more range of adjustment that you'd probably find necessary or even useful.

Y-axis: ~115mm. Depending on arm rest rotation, a little more.
X-axis: There is a range where the bike will still offer neutral handling and reasonable weight bias so I'd say 100mm practically; 170+mm functionally

In general you'll want the largest frame size you can standover comfortably to maximize aerodynamics and stability.

-SD

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Ai_1 wrote:
octavuszgz wrote:
@SuperDave do you know how many cm. i can ajust the felt bayonet 3 in the new Felt IA14?
i need to know the differents height to get my optimal position

THx

In addition to this query, will the fit calculator for the IA and DA bikes on the Felt website be updated to include the new IA bikes and account for the geometry and any differences in the cockpit? I've used the calculator to see what size frame it recommends and then assumed I would need an additional 10mm of spacers in the cockpit over the configuration suggested due to the change in geometry for the new versions. However I'm not certain if there are any other cockpit differences.

the IA10 and IA14 use a two-position base bar and the base bar comes in 2 width options. You can raise the brake lever position of the base bar without changing the headset stack, stem, etc. That isn't possible on the IA FRD, IA1, IA2, IA3, or IA4.
the IA10 and IA14 have "infinite" positions to attach the extensions. The IA FRD, IA1, IA2, IA3, or IA4 have two mounts which offer 4 fixed width positions.
the IA10 and IA14 have rotation adjustment to the extensions so you may not need an additional 10mm of spacers depending on your arm rest and hand positions.

In general, unless you're at an absolute extreme, the frame sizes overlap with the IA10 and IA14 having a few more adjustment features that slightly slow the entire bike aerodynamically.

-SD

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Thanks Dave

Another query: I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but I'm assuming the frame, fork and brakes have sufficient clearance for the current trend in wide rim wheels and at least 25mm tyres. Can you confirm?
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Yes. I have 25mm challenge Strada front and 27mm Vittoria Pave rear on SES wheels that I've fitted for TTs.

The widest rims like HED with large 25mm tires will require moving the wheel back in the dropouts for the tires to have adequate clearance in the seat stay area.

SD

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Hey Dave, any reason that you know of why the Felt engineers didn't include a method to angle the extensions up on the original IA series bikes? I've noticed more and more manufacturers including a half moon/swivle shaped spacer to help with this. Perhaps it wasn't on the radar at the time as a possible feature? Is it something that could be added to the catalog after the fact?





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+1 This would be amazing.
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Here are some thoughts.

1. I had to sand the edges of the arm rest cushions because the finish was really sharp and cut up one of my forearms.

2. The aero bars just aren't working for me or for my position. I'm going to put my profile design bars on this weekend. It's mainly a reach issue. The factory bars are really adjustable, but lengthwise I just can't get it where I want it and don't want to get used to a new position. And the whole setup just feels small to me. Plus given what I paid for the profile design I might as well use them.



3. The Trek draft box fits nicely and holds flat kit, tubes, etc out of the way (even if not the same color scheme). Won't have to use an xlab in bottle cage setup. Also a lot of room left over for insulin pen and glucose meter.

4. The Xlab TT bottle on the downtube pretty much takes up the whole space so not sure what I'm going to do about carrying more liquid. Didn't want to immediately go to the behind-the-saddle setup but looks like that's where I'm headed. I like having a full speedfil between the bars, a full bottle ready to refill, and then an empty cage to rotate and pick something up on course.



5. Stages tells me the rear brake position prevents a Stages power meter because not enough clearance. That sucks.



6. Bento box or whatever you call it will take some getting used to. At least I hope that's the problem. Doesn't seem to hold much. Hard to get your hand in there while staying in aero. But we will see. Dig in too far or too much and the plastic comes off.

7. Yes. I bought the GP4000s after the collective wisdom of ST said to get rid of the gatorskins. Just need to put them on. Plenty of room with 25mm on there, by the way.

8. A hundred miles in and I can tell this is much faster than my dear 'ol Slice; really stable in wind and downhill, and all around comfortable. Prologo saddle is a nice fit but I'll probably put my Fizik on there. Looking forward to training ride in Santa Cruz this weekend to really get a sense of how it compares. Obviously climbing with Di2 and 11spd will be a huge plus.
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Re: The New Felt IA [seeyouincourt] [ In reply to ]
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Get the XLAB Delta 400 single bottle carrier for behind the saddle and you will have everything you need. That's a really nice bike! Congrats!

Make Inside Out Sports your next online tri shop! http://www.insideoutsports.com/
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Re: The New Felt IA [seeyouincourt] [ In reply to ]
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I was just about to post on the Speed Concept thread asking when bolt spacing the Draft Box is to see if it would fit. Did you need to perform and modifications to the mounting bracket or did it just bolt straight on?

These posts are making my anxious wait for my IA 14 (due in the next week or so) feel so much longer!
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ugh I want that bike
then I hear my wife's voice in my head saying "but the one you have is barely 2 years old"
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Bolted right on.
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Awesome! Also, what size frame is yours? Mine is going to be a 48 cm so a bit worried about the draft box clearing the rear tyre
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54.
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Thanks for this info. It's very useful to get some feedback.
Glad to hear you're generally happy with the bike. It looks great!

3. The SC draft box looks like it fits well. I was planning to fabricate my own carbon container to go on those mounting points and might still do so but the SC box is a convenient alternative!

6. I was interested and disappointed to hear of the problems you're having with the bento box. Having seen one in a local shop recently I though the access flap was in a funny position (shallow back end rather than full length or over he deeper portion) so I tried sticking my fingers in as though retrieving a gel and couldn't reach very far with out the cover threatening to dislodge. It was a second hand bike and I was hoping the cover had just become a little loose due to lots of use or abuse although I was unhappy with access to the box regardless. I presume Felt are trying considering other factors like maintaining aerodynamics and keeping sweat out but practicalities like being able to easily and quickly reach what's in there and not having to waste stop re-fixing your cover or worse having to stop and pick it off the ground is a more important concern IMO. I'd prefer top tube mounting bolts, or a way to replace the existing box with a DIY version over a non-removable integrated box that doesn't work well. From an engineering point of view It would be easy to make the bento box a modular item. i.e. You could provide a recess at that location with fixing points so that you could install the box, or an alternative box or a fairing to simply eliminate the opening and give a smooth top tube. The existing box is screwed in but then bonded in place. I'm sure this is for legal rather than structural reasons. Copyrighting of stuff like this seems to be a scurge on bike innovation. Provision of internal or external mounting points on bikes seems to me like something it should not be possible to patent. It's a very straightforward basic and obvious concept. It's not like anyone had to actually invent it. It's not deserving of IP status IMO. I say this on the assumption that fear of litigation by Specialised or the like is the problem here. Why else would Felt not implement what would obviously be a better solution.

7. Good decision on the tyres. I once used Gatorskins back when I got started. Then switched to Continental 4 Seasons as my general use tyres and now use both Conti GP4000s (Tri bike) and Michelin Pro4 SC (Road bike). I wouldn't go back to the Gatorskins. All the others feel much nicer and are certainly quicker. Speed's not so important for training but since most of my riding is training I want to enjoy it as much as possible! I almost never puncture (1 last year, none this year to date) regardless which tyres I use. Perhaps I'm lucky in that respect but even if I did I think a couple of punctures a year would be worth it to get off the Gatorskins.
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Because of the way the box bolts on, I think it is perfect, despite the additional space between the frame (not as flush as I would like) and the tire (much higher than a Trek obviously). I thought the bolts would be inside the box but they are actually on a retaining piece totally separate from the box. The box slides onto the retaining piece. I won't even bother having it painted to match since I'll just stick race numbers there anyway.

The bento is fine for Oly distance. What do you really need to carry anyway but one gel. I can fit my CGM and a gel and for Oly that's fine.

I'd say the overall attachment is secure even if the reach to open is a bit far back and the middle attachment points are easy to dislodge.

For a training ride you can find other places to stash what you need, like a jersey.

For a Half distance it is a different issue. The max I could fit is three gels. Three gels and one clifshots at most, but the sides flared at that point. I usually need more than that over a Half distance targeting 400 calories and 3 hours as a safe zone. Finishing closer to 2:45 means no problems and if there was a problem or whatever and it is over the 3:00 mark then I'm still safe. I'll just have to put something in my back pockets. That's all.

I'll take some close-up pics for reference.
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Pics

http://a65.tinypic.com/11980tk.jpg (51 KB)
Attachment points.

http://a67.tinypic.com/242ebz9.jpg (58 KB)
Three gels

http://a68.tinypic.com/2dl3lp1.jpg (63 KB)
Size reference

http://a67.tinypic.com/3498bgz.jpg (45 KB)
This last one is close with clifshots and three gels inside showing it flares a bit on the sides.
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How many of those GU blocks fit in there if you take them out of the packaging? I have used the XLAB Stealth pocket on my current road bike filled with GU blocks and I like how that works out. I figured I'd simply use the built-in bento box on the new Felt for the same purpose.
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SuperDave, since you have one of these as a personal bike, I was just curious what bike stand you personally use to work on your IA?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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I have a Park stand and an Elite with a fork mount.

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Is the 35mm minimum stack for the Bayonet aerobar to the center of the extension, top of the pad holder, or top of the pad?

Thanks,
Gareth
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Actually the minimum stack is 16mm from the center of the bar bore.
35mm with the extensions mounted above the bar.

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Hi Dave!

I went today to check out my new IA10 and it's sweet looking! I was hoping to change the stem out to one a bit longer but my shop is telling me that when they put the adaptor cap on plus the new stem, there is not enough room on the steer tube to clamp the new stem down because the steer tube has been cut. Do you know if anyone has been successful in changing out the stem?

Thanks for your help!
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What about the stem length do you not like? The base bar position? The arm rest?

Stem swaps can't be done unless the clamp height is as low as the IA stem or when you buy a frameset with an uncut steerer.

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Thanks for the quick response.... The standard stem certainly looks cool but I'm coming from a 54 DA2 and run a 30 degree 100mm stem so my fitter think I need a longer stem than what comes on the IA10. It's also a bit heavy :)

Will it be possible to swap out stem/bars with an integrated option like the TriRig Alpha X?
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I'd be shocked if you couldn't achieve the same position on the IA as the DA. You might consider sizing up to a 56cm also.

A TriRig front end can be used with an IA10 frameset but I think the stem stack on the TriRig is too tall for the production bike.

The DA is a bit lighter if your looking for weight reduction.

Dave

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Dave (or anyone else)

Can you recommend any good rear lights that are able to get around the monstrous seatpost? Most of my rides take place very early in the morning.
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Use the light/reflector bracket that comes with the bike.

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SuperDave wrote:
A TriRig front end can be used with an IA10 frameset but I think the stem stack on the TriRig is too tall for the production bike.

This sounds like a pretty crucial piece of information for customers looking to upgrade their front end in the future (not that there's anything wrong with the Bayonet bar, just sayin').
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SuperDave wrote:
What about the stem length do you not like? The base bar position? The arm rest?

Stem swaps can't be done unless the clamp height is as low as the IA stem or when you buy a frameset with an uncut steerer.
Hi Dave,

What length of steerer is left on production bikes? It sounds from your post like they are sold precut to less than the normal stem clamp length (40mm?) and with no spacers that could be removed to make room. Is this correct? I had assumed they were delivered with a couple of spacers as per usual for most bikes but now I think about it I'm not sure I've seen any pictures of the new IA with spacers. If its precut very short what's the reason? Is the intension that the cockpit has enough adjustability that one stem option is sufficient?
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So Dave, I just need a bit of clarification. If I were to order an IA 10 today, the steerer would be precut for the stock stem before I unboxed the thing?

This is a pretty crutial piece if you were planning to customize this bike. Any info on how high the stack is on the stock stem?
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Re: The New Felt IA [kscheiris] [ In reply to ]
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kscheiris wrote:
So Dave, I just need a bit of clarification. If I were to order an IA 10 today, the steerer would be precut for the stock stem before I unboxed the thing?
This is a pretty crutial piece if you were planning to customize this bike. Any info on how high the stack is on the stock stem?

The complete bike comes with the steerer cut for their respective integrated stems which include internal cable routing.
The stack on the stem is fairly standard at 40mm but it also includes the headset cover for the compression device.
Stem swaps on new bikes will most likely require new forks.

What about the stock stem requires changing for you?

IA10 framesets come with the fork uncut.

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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The allure of the IA10 to me, is to be a lot more creative with the options. I might get one and be in love with the current stem and bar combo but I would at least like the option.

When will the IA10 frameset be available?
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Re: The New Felt IA [kscheiris] [ In reply to ]
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kscheiris wrote:
The allure of the IA10 to me, is to be a lot more creative with the options. I might get one and be in love with the current stem and bar combo but I would at least like the option.
When will the IA10 frameset be available?

I'm expecting the IA10 framesets to start shipping in March.
You can change the bar on the stock bike but if you change the stem you'll lose the internal cable routing. The stock stem has a 31.8mm bar bore clamp.
-SD
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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A TriRig front end can be used with an IA10 frameset but I think the stem stack on the TriRig is too tall for the production bike.

Dave

Hey Dave,

Our Alpha X and Sigma X stems have a very short 29mm clamping zone. So they should be just fine for swapping out on the production bike. They also come with their own ultra low 1mm dust cap, meaning that the total steerer tube needed is very little. Just 27mm or so when you account for the 3mm you leave below the top cap. Users should have no problem swapping to our hardware even on cut IA forks.

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Re: The New Felt IA [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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TriRig wrote:
SuperDave wrote:

A TriRig front end can be used with an IA10 frameset but I think the stem stack on the TriRig is too tall for the production bike.

Dave


Hey Dave,

Our Alpha X and Sigma X stems have a very short 29mm clamping zone. So they should be just fine for swapping out on the production bike. They also come with their own ultra low 1mm dust cap, meaning that the total steerer tube needed is very little. Just 27mm or so when you account for the 3mm you leave below the top cap. Users should have no problem swapping to our hardware even on cut IA forks.


There is a custom top cap that fits the frame and box if you're using a standard stem. The head tube is not round so a round 1mm cover isn't going to be very useful.
Are you setting up your IA10 this way?

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds awesome. When is the Alpha X in stock again?
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Question for SuperDave: Some early pictures of the IA10 appear to have a different rear brake than what is on the production models. Is that accurate? And, can the pictured center pull FSA brake go onto the production models?



[ from http://www.active.com/...w-ia-10-12-14?page=2 ]
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Re: The New Felt IA [seeyouincourt] [ In reply to ]
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Question for SuperDave: Some early pictures of the IA10 appear to have a different rear brake than what is on the production models. Is that accurate? And, can the pictured center pull FSA brake go onto the production models?



[ from http://www.active.com/...w-ia-10-12-14?page=2 ]

The plan is to include the FSA rear brake just as soon as we can. The FSA brake is a nice tidy package and allows powermeters like Pioneer and Stages to be used. The Shimano brake shipping on the bikes now does not fit these inboard, non-drive crank arm powermeters.

The IA-x was to begin shipping last summer but production difficulties with the brake prevented shipment so the Shimano brakes were substituted to fill the growing list of backorders.

I don't expect the FSA brake to make it on production models this year.

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Okay. Thanks. Sounds like I can get one from FSA and swap it out.
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Re: The New Felt IA [seeyouincourt] [ In reply to ]
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seeyouincourt wrote:
Okay. Thanks. Sounds like I can get one from FSA and swap it out.

I just replied to your email that you'd sent to Craig, those ee brakes fit, too.

-SD
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you kindly.
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
TriRig wrote:
SuperDave wrote:

A TriRig front end can be used with an IA10 frameset but I think the stem stack on the TriRig is too tall for the production bike.

Dave


Hey Dave,

Our Alpha X and Sigma X stems have a very short 29mm clamping zone. So they should be just fine for swapping out on the production bike. They also come with their own ultra low 1mm dust cap, meaning that the total steerer tube needed is very little. Just 27mm or so when you account for the 3mm you leave below the top cap. Users should have no problem swapping to our hardware even on cut IA forks.


There is a custom top cap that fits the frame and box if you're using a standard stem. The head tube is not round so a round 1mm cover isn't going to be very useful.
Are you setting up your IA10 this way?

-SD

Well, I don't have the IA10 yet, so I can't confirm 100%. But I'm extremely confident that the Alpha X is both compatible, and will be a beautiful aero and aesthetic match with the IA and its box. Just for clarification, the Alpha X and Sigma X can use any standard top cap and dust cap, you don't have to use the ones included with the bar.

And to be perfectly fair, I want to go on record (again) to say that I really love the Bayonet 3 bar that comes with the bike. At $299 for the complete system, I don't think there's better bang-for-buck out there. Super adjustable, weight competitive, and probably nothing more aero in its price category. Of course, I'll be swapping out for something that's decidedly outside of its price category :-)

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Dave,

Can you confirm if the bike ships with a full set of hardware for the Bayonet 3 bar? i.e. any spacers, bolts and bridges you'd need to raise the pads and aerobars to the maximum allowable. Or does this require purchase of a separate hardware pack? Due to the info you've provided in the last few posts it seems it's fairly critical to have the hardware to hand as I won't be able to make do with steerer spacers or a flipped stem while waiting for parts to arrive!

Thanks for all the info BTW!
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Re: The New Felt IA [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Nick,

Any idea how much faster the Alpha X bar is compared to the Felt Bayonet on the IA?
Is it in anyway possible to get the Alpha X on the original IA's or only on the new lesser integrated IA's?

Felt IA and the Alpha X bar would be so awesome :D
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Re: The New Felt IA [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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Ai_1 wrote:
Dave,

Can you confirm if the bike ships with a full set of hardware for the Bayonet 3 bar? i.e. any spacers, bolts and bridges you'd need to raise the pads and aerobars to the maximum allowable. Or does this require purchase of a separate hardware pack? Due to the info you've provided in the last few posts it seems it's fairly critical to have the hardware to hand as I won't be able to make do with steerer spacers or a flipped stem while waiting for parts to arrive!

Thanks for all the info BTW!

Yes, complete aftermarket parts kit ships with the IA10 and IA14.
Before you cross reference fit on your current set up and decide to raise the aerobars I'd recommend checking if the next largest frame size fits. The method of sizing your IA with a top tube dimension is pretty useless since the 2cm increments in the frame length are far less than the 100mm+ adjustment in fore-aft on the arm pads.

The bigger the frame, the less the drag.

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [KnudsenDenmark] [ In reply to ]
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KnudsenDenmark wrote:
Hi Nick,

Any idea how much faster the Alpha X bar is compared to the Felt Bayonet on the IA?
Is it in anyway possible to get the Alpha X on the original IA's or only on the new lesser integrated IA's?

Felt IA and the Alpha X bar would be so awesome :D

I can't confirm 100%, but I'm fairly confident that Alpha X would work on the original IA as well. Regarding the Bayonet 3, we have a little aero data about it, see our wind tunnel studies for Alpha Classic and Alpha X. Thanks!

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Just came home with my new baby today. I only got a little time to ride before the sun went down but I did go up and then down one of the biggest steepest hills I have ever ridden on and, for the record, I totally felt that the rear brake worked every bit as well as anything I've ever had. I did not personally notice any difference. If I was riding with my eyes shut, I'd have no idea there was anything different. I'm LOVING the electronic shifting. This is my first bike with Di2 and I have to say it is SWEEEET!!! I may end up swapping out the saddle but I will need more time on the stock saddle to make that decision. I probably won't get out much until next Spring. Thankfully my local dealer was very considerate of the time of year and told me to come back in sometime in the Spring once I've had more time to ride it and get some final adjustments as needed. I threw on my new BTA hydration quickly, but otherwise these photos are of the bike from the shop. It looks a little neutered with the stock wheels, but I am hoping to jump in on the November sale of the FLOs to get a set of racing wheels. The only knit-picky critique I might make so far is perhaps the bento box. The pre-cut flap really doesn't open up enough to really access the bulk of the holder which really dips down further back (towards the front of the bike). I could see perhaps carefully cutting it back a little more but then I'd be afraid it might just continue ripping as time goes on and eventually fall apart, and or the little rubber hooks will rip off over time. I might think that making this out of some type of plastic might be a bit more sturdy but who knows. I'll play with it. I am hoping it will work out, but I'm just afraid that it will end up being a pain in the long run. We shall see. I am very excited to finally have a real tri bike going into my fourth year in the sport though. Sounds like these are very popular all ready this year. The dealer said they are all ready 200% oversold on the IA10s so I'm lucky I got my order in so early.


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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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Great looking bike but why is the saddle angled like that?

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Re: The New Felt IA [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Like I said, some adjustments still need to be done. The fitter at the shop set this up with me being in a more aggressive position than I have been in the past (about 30-40 mm lower up front). I believe my hip flexibility is lacking, and as a result, in order for the saddle to be comfortable and allow my sit bones to be sitting flat on the saddle it needs about 3 degrees of tilt. The photo actually seems to make the saddle look as though it is tilted quite a bit more forward than it really is. In the end I have a feeling that once I get some more time on it, I may actually have to raise the front end a little bit from where it is at now. My RETUL fitted position was not this aggressive. I figured for the time being I'll see how it works out and see if I can get used to it, but again, I may need to make some adjustments next Spring.
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Dave,

Can you in any way confirm if the Alpha X will fit on my Felt IA4 or only on the newer IA X models?

Thanks.
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Re: The New Felt IA [KnudsenDenmark] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Dave,

Can you in any way confirm if the Alpha X will fit on my Felt IA4 or only on the newer IA X models?

Thanks.

I've never seen an Alpha X bar so I'm not sure how the cable routing works.
The IA4 has a stem option with a 31.8mm clamp so it is likely the bar could fit the stem.

What about your IA4 do you not like?

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [KnudsenDenmark] [ In reply to ]
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KnudsenDenmark wrote:
Hi Dave,

Can you in any way confirm if the Alpha X will fit on my Felt IA4 or only on the newer IA X models?

Thanks.

it will absolutely not fit on the IA. The original Alpha would fit you used the adapter stem that allows you to use 31mm bars. But the Dagger bar on the IA4 is about as fast and adjustable (well it does not have pad tilt, but neither does the alpha) as any other bar out there, so there is not really any gain.
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
KnudsenDenmark wrote:
Hi Dave,

Can you in any way confirm if the Alpha X will fit on my Felt IA4 or only on the newer IA X models?

Thanks.


I've never seen an Alpha X bar so I'm not sure how the cable routing works.
The IA4 has a stem option with a 31.8mm clamp so it is likely the bar could fit the stem.

What about your IA4 do you not like?

-SD

The Alpha X has an integrated stem, so I do not think it will work on the IA4.
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Re: The New Felt IA [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
KnudsenDenmark wrote:
Hi Dave,

Can you in any way confirm if the Alpha X will fit on my Felt IA4 or only on the newer IA X models?

Thanks.


I've never seen an Alpha X bar so I'm not sure how the cable routing works.
The IA4 has a stem option with a 31.8mm clamp so it is likely the bar could fit the stem.

What about your IA4 do you not like?

-SD


The Alpha X has an integrated stem, so I do not think it will work on the IA4.

The IA4 has an 1.125" steerer so it may.
I just think you'd lose the aero benefit of the integrated front end/cover/etc.
One of our engineers runs his IA with a standard road stem and drop bars.

-SD

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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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I'm totally fine with my IA but looking at the Alpha X compared to the stock bar on the IA it looks like there might be an aero advantage shifting bars to the Alpha X.
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Re: The New Felt IA [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
KnudsenDenmark wrote:
Hi Dave,

Can you in any way confirm if the Alpha X will fit on my Felt IA4 or only on the newer IA X models?

Thanks.


it will absolutely not fit on the IA. The original Alpha would fit you used the adapter stem that allows you to use 31mm bars. But the Dagger bar on the IA4 is about as fast and adjustable (well it does not have pad tilt, but neither does the alpha) as any other bar out there, so there is not really any gain.

Yes, it will! As Dave mentioned, the IA uses a standard steerer. The Alpha X has a short enough clamping zone that it should work with both the IA and IAx models. I'm going to try to take some pictures to provide visual evidence in the next few days, thanks to the good folks at TriBella in Denver.

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Re: The New Felt IA [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Quick confirmation - the Alpha X and Sigma X absolutely DO work on the IA and IAx. It so happens that the steerer tube length on trimmed production bikes happens to be perfect. I'll post some pictures later. Big thanks to TriBella in Denver for letting me play with their frames and test the fitment.

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Re: The New Felt IA [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, so here's the proof that the Alpha X and Sigma X work brilliantly on both the original IA and the newer IAx frames, even with the pre-cut forks:

Alpha X + Felt IA Compatibility
http://www.tririg.com/...lpha_X_Compatibility






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Re: The New Felt IA [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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So when can I get one?
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Re: The New Felt IA [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Geez that looks fantastic.
So it's "just" getting the Alpha X and swapping it with the Bayonet? No new fork it needed - sweet!
Any plans on developing some kind of base bar riser designed to angle the aerobars?
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Re: The New Felt IA [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Nick,

looking at your pictures, it seems that it will not be possible to have clearance for an Omega X without brake cable housing, using the cable stop in the stem. Is that the big hole or the small one in front at the bottom of the stem?

Also, where has the hole for Di2 junction gone in the Alpha X? Not that it really matters with this frame, just curious.

Looking forward to see the details of a complete build!

Sr. Salitre
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Re: The New Felt IA [FranR] [ In reply to ]
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FranR wrote:
Nick, looking at your pictures, it seems that it will not be possible to have clearance for an Omega X without brake cable housing, using the cable stop in the stem. Is that the big hole or the small one in front at the bottom of the stem?

Also, where has the hole for Di2 junction gone in the Alpha X? Not that it really matters with this frame, just curious.

Looking forward to see the details of a complete build!

The big hole is where the optional cable stop can go. The small hole is where the Alpha X's aero-matched spacers click in for perfect alignment. You're correct that bare cable won't work with the IAx frames, you must run housing. Though I may try to come up with another slick solution involving a 3D-printed part that would replace the IAx junction port cover, and also add a cable stop.

The Alpha X still has the cavity for the Di2 junction box! You don't see it, because the cover is on. The cover can come off with a couple bolts.

Regarding the other questions others have asked here that are specifically about TriRig products, please contact us via our website contact form. In this thread, I'm happy to answer compatibility questions regarding the Felt IA. But please don't hijack this thread with TriRig-only questions. Just email us for that :-)

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Re: The New Felt IA [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Looking like lots of potential for some sweet upgrades on my new IA10 down the road. I almost went with the Omega X before my bike came in, but decided to hold off for now. I may still upgrade down the road though. I'll be anxious to see TriRig's build of an IAx setup with all their upgrades just to see the 'potential' for some goodies down the road on mine.
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Re: The New Felt IA [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Nick: Couple things:
1) Any chance of a front pic of a stock IA and an IA with our Alpha X aero basebar.
2) A side pic would be great to look at the reach as well.

3) With this set-up is it possible to separately angle the extensions upward?

Thanks in advance...
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Re: The New Felt IA [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Is the stack the same as the Tri 155 stem that comes with the IA10? If needed could I add one or two spacers or is the stem cut too low for raising the base bar. thanks
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Re: The New Felt IA [Trisumai] [ In reply to ]
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Trisumai wrote:
Is the stack the same as the Tri 155 stem that comes with the IA10? If needed could I add one or two spacers or is the stem cut too low for raising the base bar. thanks

You can just flip the Bayonet base bar if you need a higher brake lever position.
-SD
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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While I have actually pre-ordered the IA 14, I'm still wondering whether I should call my LBS and get an IA 10.

The main differences are the Di2 group and the paint scheme, right? I'll be using FLO wheels when I'm racing, so the training wheels don't really matter to me.

I do think that the Di2 is a big plus in comparison to the 6800. I might even consider an upgrade in the future. Plus, I think the paint scheme on the IA 10 looks way better.

But the IA 10 actually is above my budget. Strangely, the difference in pricing down here in Europe (the Netherlands, to be specific) is a lot bigger. Converted to dollars, I'd pay 3500 for the IA14 but 5000 for the IA 10! I think that's a lot for an electronic group and a different color...

What do you guys think? Anything else I should consider?
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Great. Thanks. I hadn't ridden a tri bike in quite a bit as I had been riding my road bike. Don't know if my issue was my inflexibility or whether the base bar is too low but suspect it is the former as set up is identical to previous bike.
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Re: The New Felt IA [larsvanzanten] [ In reply to ]
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larsvanzanten wrote:
While I have actually pre-ordered the IA 14, I'm still wondering whether I should call my LBS and get an IA 10.

The main differences are the Di2 group and the paint scheme, right? I'll be using FLO wheels when I'm racing, so the training wheels don't really matter to me.

I do think that the Di2 is a big plus in comparison to the 6800. I might even consider an upgrade in the future. Plus, I think the paint scheme on the IA 10 looks way better.

But the IA 10 actually is above my budget. Strangely, the difference in pricing down here in Europe (the Netherlands, to be specific) is a lot bigger. Converted to dollars, I'd pay 3500 for the IA14 but 5000 for the IA 10! I think that's a lot for an electronic group and a different color...

What do you guys think? Anything else I should consider?

3500 is under value for the IA14, it should be 4000.
5000 is accurate for the IA10.

This is a tough call to make. I chose aero over Di2 and went with the IA1 frame with Dura-Ace 7800/Vision Metron.
As you said, you can always change the F/D, R/D, SL, ST and put Di2 on your IA14.

-SD
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Re: The New Felt IA [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Hey nick,

I assume the standard 31.8mm clamp sigma X, would work just the same, as far as cable routing is concerned?
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Re: The New Felt IA [keqwow] [ In reply to ]
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I definitely look forward to the details on the build because I can tell you it was pretty involved to switch out my bars to my Profile Design set up. It was not even close to a bolt on. I had to have my LBS do it because it became an issue with the di2 wires being too short on the extensions since those are one piece (shifter and wire). Ended up adding another junction box and moving two wires out from the headtube junction. It worked out nicely and is actually cleaner on the wire setup not coming down the stem in the bento box.
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave,


First of all thank you for your expertise and all the information you post regarding the IA.


As soon as the IAx came out I was instantly interested.
Currently, I'm working toward a budget for the IAx and it is time to work on the sizing details. I was trying to figure out what would be the best frame size for me. I'm planning to order the IA10.


Here are my coordinates:
Arm pad reach 525 to center of pad (maybe I'll go with more reach since I'm planning to tweak my position)
Arm pad stack 585 (top of pad)


It seems that I need a 54 but I don't know if I could be fitted on a 56 since I'd prefer more of the bike below me.
I would get a different base/aero bar (lower) if that would allow me to be on a 56.


So, what is the best size for me?


Thank you,
Boki
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Picked up my IA-14 today...Thanks everyone for all of the updates!!! I can post more pics if anyone wants more...


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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [navarrog] [ In reply to ]
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Update with the TriRig front end and a Catalyst disc cover and that will be a very slick set up.

AERO & LIGHT is RIGHT

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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [navarrog] [ In reply to ]
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Sweet! Yes please, the more the better :-))
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [larsvanzanten] [ In reply to ]
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Anything in particular you want photos of? I picked up my IA 14 today so can take some if you'd like. So far I can confirm that the Bontrager Draft Box will fit even on my midget 48 cm frame




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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [simonforster] [ In reply to ]
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Felt has such a great opportunity to make a box with the IA 10,14, and 16. Why they are leaving that to other companies is something I don't understand. No one developed anything for the P5/P3/P2 bottom bracket area. Why make a bike with an opportunity to do something new and then ignore it. Quintana Roo made their own bike for their bike.

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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [simonforster] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks! Not really anything specific. Even though I already ordered the IA 14, I'm still doubting whether I love or hate the looks of it :-)
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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I agree, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if one is in development at the moment. I know I'd much rather get the bike now and have to wait a few months for a storage box rather than wait longer for the bike and storage system to come out at the same time. For now the draft box is looking very good though.

larsvanzanten, all I can say is that the paint scheme looks wicked in person. The carbon is matte and all of the paint is gloss which I love. Although I do like fluoro colours so if that's not your cup of tea then you may not like it as much as me.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [simonforster] [ In reply to ]
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Can you post a front end shot showing the brake cableing?
Thank you

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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Sure thing. I think mine may have been routed a bit different as there isn't as much room etc but hopefully it helps. Also noticed that after a short ride around the block the stem cap is rubbing against the rear brake housing (that's the little white bits). Probably going to be having a chat to the bike shop about that!


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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [simonforster] [ In reply to ]
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That is sharp looking!

I'm planning on picking up a pair of IA's for my wife and I and I'm so torn between the 10 and 14!

It sure would be nice to save $2k with the 14's, but it also seems like "only 2k more for both to have electronic shifting!"......

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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [simonforster] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks! I really hope I like it. I'm not scared of the neon colors, but I think the more "basic" IA 10 paint job looks just more sophisticated and timeless.

Could you post a picture from the riders POV? Just to give me a sense of what it'll look like to ride one of these :-)
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larsvanzanten wrote:
...Could you post a picture from the riders POV? Just to give me a sense of what it'll look like to ride one of these :-)

Won't a true rider POV just show you some hands and maybe a glimpse of the front tyre? ;)
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Here is one I took during the summer. IA4 but the setup is likely similar in appearance other than some subtitles



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Right brake for the front, is that an Australian thing? :) Looks like quite a sharp turn for that cable.
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I was thinking the same thing about a piece of tape and then saw this on FirstOffTheBike,

I guess I'm not the only one who experiences the box coming off (here on the FRD) and I didn't even use it. I mean to say, on the entire ride I never touched the bento box and yet an hour into the ride I saw it was coming off up front. And yes, it was properly on there when I started out.
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Bento box aside, I just put the ee cycleworks rear brake (eebrake DM Rear) on my IA10. Installed in minutes. Super easy. Fits completely under the frame; nothing sticking out. And I have to say, although pricey (at $330) it has fantastic feel.

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What was the problem with the original brake?

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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [seeyouincourt] [ In reply to ]
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Does the IAx line not have a cover over the rear brake on the underside of the frame like the IA line does?

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Sticks out too far from the frame that you can't have a Stages powermeter.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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see post #352 and #383, 384
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [seeyouincourt] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the direction, greatly appreciated. Poor IAx owners ... :(

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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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Touch :-)
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [snaaijert] [ In reply to ]
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It sure is, I read it's to do with us driving on the left and hand signals. Yeah I wish it wasn't that sharp but I don't think there's all that much I can do. After having a proper ride on it I like it a lot, however I'm not a big fan of the rubber grips on the brake bar. They are very thin and send all the bumps straight though to you hands. Hopefully some Lizard Skin DSP will sort that out easily enough.
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Are the frames all the same for IA 10,14,16? Is the only difference the paint color?
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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Yep

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boki wrote:
SuperDave,


First of all thank you for your expertise and all the information you post regarding the IA.


As soon as the IAx came out I was instantly interested.
Currently, I'm working toward a budget for the IAx and it is time to work on the sizing details. I was trying to figure out what would be the best frame size for me. I'm planning to order the IA10.


Here are my coordinates:
Arm pad reach 525 to center of pad (maybe I'll go with more reach since I'm planning to tweak my position)
Arm pad stack 585 (top of pad)


It seems that I need a 54 but I don't know if I could be fitted on a 56 since I'd prefer more of the bike below me.
I would get a different base/aero bar (lower) if that would allow me to be on a 56.


So, what is the best size for me?


Thank you,
Boki

Probably be a "typical" 54cm unless you opt for under-base-bar extension mounting such as the Bayonet3, PRO Missile, and a few others offer. I personally have my bike set up this way and while you do give up some fore-aft arm rest positioning owing to the base bar being in the way for some possible positons I did not find that to be a limitation for me.

A 56cm would likely be the faster set up if you can replicate your position and accept the under-bar mounting.
One other thing to note is the first 45mm of the extension should be trimmed when going under the bar to reposition the shifter-in-the-hands in plane with the arm rests.

-SD

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Thank you very much.

Boki
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Will the bento box hold a gel flask?

I saw it in person today for the first time and the only thing I do not like about the bike is the bento box lid, it just seemed a little flimsy and hard to access the contents without unseating it. If someone can see if they can insert/remove a gel flask from the bento box and report back that would be awesome.
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Unfortunately a standard gel flask does not fit in the bento box. Another thread on here mention the new GU flask or Hydrapak 150 as more malleable options which might work but I haven't tried either yet.
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This might work


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BryanD wrote:
This might work

Where can you buy this?
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Re: The New Felt IA [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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It's not on the GU website yet. Hopefully soon.

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I don't think GU manufacturers those, probably had a 3rd party print their names on it. Those are just soft flasks. Check Runners Warehouse, Hydrapak, Salomon or Ultimate Direction.
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Re: The New Felt IA [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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Search "inov-8 flask" and "omm flexi" on wiggle, for different sizes and prices.
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What size is equal to the hammer gel flask that holds about 5 gels?
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Re: The New Felt IA [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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Haven't used anything from Hammer myself, but reading
http://www.hammernutrition.com/...s/hammer-gel.hg.html
they seem to say that 645 ml is 26 servings, i.e. one is 25 ml. So the smallest bottle from OMM (235 ml) and Inov-8 (250 ml) take up to 9-10 servings.

The material is very flexible so easy to squeeze into pretty much any shape and size. I recently bought the Inov-8 one, but haven't had the opportunity to try it out yet. Don't have an IA, but was looking for something flexible to put some strong Tailwind nutrition mixture in.

Have been thinking about giving the 325 ml straw model from OMM a try also.
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Hey folks, sorry if this has already been addressed elsewhere.....Just starting to look at these, in particular, the IA 1 module. I seem to remember some people having issues with their rear brakes on the Felts getting gummed up/stuck really easily.
Has this been fixed? Is there a cover over the rear brake on the IA 1??

Thanks!
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Re: The New Felt IA [gibson00] [ In reply to ]
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I have the FRD since it came out. Never had any issues with the brakes. I do think most of the time these issues are due to badrouting of the cables or incorrect installation. I have assembled quit a bit of them. But i can say for the rear brake on the DA, although much more complicated, when you know the trick it works fine. But don t let the stories on the rear brake hold you back. It is the greatest bike i have owned so far

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Re: The New Felt IA [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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The IA bento box looks quite small though, what's the approx size? The rigid part below the cap on the Inov-8 is about 60*35mm, oval-shaped. I can just about fit it, with 200ml fluid, into a Dark Speed Works 483. The DSW is quite low at the back end, so can't really utilize all available space there, not with 200ml.
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How are these bikes to work on, and in particular to take apart for travel? Anyone here do some races this year and have to pack and unpack these into an EVOC bike bag? How does it compare to an easy bike to pack/unpack like the P3?
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The IA bento is quite small and after doing a half on Saturday, I've confirmed its impossibly impractical to use while in aero. A lot of fiddling around. I don't know what the thinking on this was but it really is a poor design. A slit down the middle would make a lot more sense. I ended up having three gels in the bento because it doesn't hold much more and stuffed probars in my pockets.
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Re: The New Felt IA [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Hey SuperDave,
any updates on the release date for IA 16?
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Re: The New Felt IA [dannyJACdani] [ In reply to ]
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Or the frame set? Was advised my slice frame is "unsafe" (carbon crack) after just paying to upgrade my groupo to di2. It's a sad, sad day, especially since I covet the IAx, but can't wait 5 months for a new bike.
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dannyJACdani wrote:
Hey SuperDave,
any updates on the release date for IA 16?

Still Spring.
Consumers keep buying IA10 and IA14 and ceasing production on those sold bikes to make IA10 frames and IA16 bikes is not a wise use of the limited number of frames we can produce.

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I was really excited about getting an IA14 when I ordered it several weeks ago. I really liked the original IA from the time it was released and I thought the change to a conventional front end and a price within my budget made it an easy decision. My only concern initially was the fit but then I decided there was plenty adjustment available and I'd be fine. I was really looking forward to getting my new bike!

Unfortunately, the more I find out about the bike the less and less convinced I've become.
I still really like what the bike is supposed to be but it seems to have 2 fairly fundamental issues (for me):

1. Bento box - I don't think I've seen anyone who owns the bike complement the bento box. When I saw a IA4 in a LBS shortly after ordering my IA14 I noticed the bento box was much smaller than I expected, the cover didn't fit terribly well or seem very secure and the hatch seemed fiddly. All of these initial concerns have been raised by others here so obviously it's not just me being too picky. The problem is that the bento box being a permanent feature means you can't use an aftermarket item instead. The spot's already occupied. I've even been contemplating how I could fabricate my own replacement cover to increase the volume and make it more practical. I'm sure I could do something decent but it would be a lot of work to do it properly.

2. I've been riding a converted road bike to date which has limited my ability to refine my position. I think the IA would be okay but I may need the max stack of spacers under pads. I might be able to get lower over time but I'm not sure yet (minor neck problem). I was originally satisfied that if necessary I could use a few stem spacers and if the worst came to the worst I could dispense with the nice purpose designed stem and put on a standard one with a different angle, or even flip it. Then I found out that none of this is an option. While the front end is now somewhat conventional, the bikes will be supplied without spacers and with the steerer cut too short to use a conventional stem.

It's frustrating because these both seem like issues it would be very simple for Felt to address. The first seems to be a pretty universal criticism and while the second may not be an issue for many, I'm sure it will be for some. I can only presume the decision to supply these with the steerer cut is based on getting the stem level with the bento box and the cables exiting as intended but I don't think this is the only or best way to solve that problem.

So, I think I'm going to cancel my order. I may get a Cervelo P2 or a Felt B12 instead. :(
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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For problem 1: Take the cloth bento box of your choice that fits the size of the Calpac, remove the Calpac from the frame, screw the new bento into place using the Calpac screws (through the cloth bottom), and then cut the bottom out of it. Boom, nice deep and easy to access bento.

Problem 2: Not much you can do if a bike doesn't fit you. Not every bike can fit every athlete, but the IAx series come pretty close.

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Jim@EROsports wrote:
For problem 1: Take the cloth bento box of your choice that fits the size of the Calpac, remove the Calpac from the frame, screw the new bento into place using the Calpac screws (through the cloth bottom), and then cut the bottom out of it. Boom, nice deep and easy to access bento.

Problem 2: Not much you can do if a bike doesn't fit you. Not every bike can fit every athlete, but the IAx series come pretty close.

Thanks Jim

Problem 1: I was originally thinking I would simply replace the existing calpac with my own solution as you suggest (I was thinking of fabricating something bespoke but I do like your suggestion - very straightforward and much easier). However, Dave commented earlier in the thread that the calpac is actually bonded in place, not just screwed in and also that removing it would void the frame warranty so any solution would have to involve only removing the calpac cover and perching something on top of the existing "tray" and the protrusions for holding the original silicone cover in place. That means you can't expand the volume downwards, introduces obstacles and probably denies you the re-use of existing mounting screws. Just makes the whole idea very fiddly and compromised.

Problem 2: Yep, I think it'll fit well, simply a question of how that fit is achieved. I'd like to ability to raise the basebar and/or remove some of the armrest spacers should the need arise. The only thing stopping that is a pre-trimmed steerer which is frustrating.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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The calpac is certainly not bonded in place. It is like jim says just screwed in the frame with some tiny screws.
I cut the bottom out of the calpac and create a much deeper unit by just creating a sort of extended bottom from, yes, seriously, duck tape. Sits there for more then a full season. It now fit a spare tire, tire levers, co2 cartridge and of top of that just at the entry you can flip up a couple of gels.

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tri-run wrote:
The calpac is certainly not bonded in place. It is like jim says just screwed in the frame with some tiny screws.
I cut the bottom out of the calpac and create a much deeper unit by just creating a sort of extended bottom from, yes, seriously, duck tape. Sits there for more then a full season. It now fit a spare tire, tire levers, co2 cartridge and of top of that just at the entry you can flip up a couple of gels.



Can SuperDave confirm one way or the other? They have made bigger ones in the past:





http://www.tririg.com/...A_Carfrae&num=21


It seems like such an easy upgrade if it's as simple as unscrewing one and inserting the other.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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That was a custom version for Mirinda Carfrae

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BryanD wrote:
That was a custom version for Mirinda Carfrae

I know, I think I was trying to show that it was removable somehow and that there is room to spare in the frame. Still waiting for confirmation on the removable part.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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Take a look at the original IA thread. More then enough pictures and confirmation. And the pic you posted of rinny s custom calpac show you the small holes in the corners where the screws sit.

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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [tri-run] [ In reply to ]
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tri-run wrote:
Take a look at the original IA thread. More then enough pictures and confirmation. And the pic you posted of rinny s custom calpac show you the small holes in the corners where the screws sit.

I knew there were screws but Superdave had previously indicated that the calpac was also bonded in. I thought it was in this thread but on a quick search I can't see the post. Perhaps it was in another thread.
Has someone with a new IA10 or IA14 taken out the calpac who can confirm either way. It would be great news if it's really NOT bonded!
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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It was not bonded in place on my IA10 because we easily took it out to reroute junction boxes and wires.

Looking at the Rinny version that setup would have to come in from the top rather than reach in from behind or I don't see how you could reach down so far with the limited rear opening.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [seeyouincourt] [ In reply to ]
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seeyouincourt wrote:
It was not bonded in place on my IA10 because we easily took it out to reroute junction boxes and wires....
That's brilliant, thanks!

...and we're sure it's not just the Di2 versions they leave unglued? ;)
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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It's technically "bonded" into place, but it's just one of the screws covered with glue. A small pick gets the glue out and you simply replace that screw with one of the extras that come with the bike. It's a T-9 torx, and you should invest in a small T-9 screwdriver if you're going to own this bike as the same screws hold the junction box cover on. Your life will be much easier.

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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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That's great Jim, thanks again!
So really it sounds more like tamper proofing than bonding. Either way it's a lot better than I thought.

Okay, perhaps the IA14 will stay on order :)

I've got a set of Swiss Side Hadron wheels already ordered too. 62.5mm front and 85mm rear. As it stands the wheels are due in early January (rear wheel is on backorder)and the IA14 should arrive sometime in January (TBC).
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Good question. Someone with non-Di2 will have to weigh in.

It's a bad design either way. I've yet to see anyone say how much they like it or how useful it is.
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Yeah, it's a shame as it was originally one of the things I liked about the bike.
I have to assume the design issues are a result of trying to side-stepping patents. I can't imagine anyone at Felt thought they'd got this right. Just look at the difference between early sketches showing a sizable food/hydration system and the shallow storage with no provision for hydration that made it into the bike they released. It makes little sense to hang stuff on the outside of a vehicle designed for speed when there's room on the inside. Structural issues could stand in the way but they already have the volume and the opening.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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Specialized is what stood in Felt's way. The IA was supposed to have a bladder system.

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Specialized is what stood in Felt's way. The IA was supposed to have a bladder system.
That's what I thought. It's ridiculous IMO that something this simple and obvious is patentable. There should be a reward for investments in R&D and so forth and therefore patents are a necessity but when abused this becomes a tool of bullies and an obstacle to further innovation.
There are plenty manufacturers making backpacks with bladders. What's the difference?
Specialized have a history of questionable IP litigation if I'm not mistaken. Didn't they try and sue a guy for calling his caf Roubaix or something like that? This is a bit different but I'm still not a fan.
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Can someone tell me what cassette this has? It says Shimano 12-28 but doesn't give the series. I am assuming it is ultegra but from looking online it seems like this is a really rare combo to buy. I need to get another one for my race wheels and I'm kind of at a loss.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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The IA 14 has a 105 cassette. Not sure on the 10 though
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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Any 12-28 Shimano cassette will work on your race wheels. It's probably Ultegra on the IA10 though.
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kscheiris wrote:
Any 12-28 Shimano cassette will work on your race wheels. It's probably Ultegra on the IA10 though.
Or indeed, I think it would be an advantage to go with a different range cassette so you can swap them as needed to have the most appropriate cassette for the race. e.g. You could have a 12-25 for flatter races and the 12-28 for hillier stuff or training.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe I'm not good at this internet thing but I can't find a 12-28 combo in any 11 speed option from shimano. Do you think they have a typo and mean 11-28? That is far more common.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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Picked my IA10 up today and it is a 105 11-28. TriRig brake to deliver tomorrow. Very excited about this bike.
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7ofClubs wrote:
Picked my IA10 up today and it is a 105 11-28. TriRig brake to deliver tomorrow. Very excited about this bike.

I'm going to assume this is a typo then...

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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [7ofClubs] [ In reply to ]
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if you use different training/ race wheels of different width get a tririg for the rear as well...easiest way to dial in the rear brakes, again if you change out wheels often.
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Re: The New Felt IA [seeyouincourt] [ In reply to ]
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after using an IA for a season of races from sprint to IM I agree the IA bento to not great for loading up gels or bars. Its not that there is not enough room (although that's part of the issue) but the ability to get in there and remove those items at the bottom of the box is pretty difficult. I use Bonk Breakers in HIM and IM and I could fit 3 maybe, but to get that last one out is tough unless you rip off the cover, which is not advisable in aero going 20 mph. Al long, wide opening would have been easier to get items in and out.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [anthonypat] [ In reply to ]
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Good to know..thank you. Fortunately I use my 404s for both.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [7ofClubs] [ In reply to ]
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Ordered my IA10 the first week in November...super excited to get it! Anyone know where the lead times on these bikes sit currently or about when I should it expect it in?

Thanks!
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Really, does your shop have others?
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I guess I should take that as a sign that it will be a while?
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Yes they do...Podium Multisport in Atlanta.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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Ai_1 wrote:
BryanD wrote:
Specialized is what stood in Felt's way. The IA was supposed to have a bladder system.

That's what I thought. It's ridiculous IMO that something this simple and obvious is patentable. There should be a reward for investments in R&D and so forth and therefore patents are a necessity but when abused this becomes a tool of bullies and an obstacle to further innovation.
There are plenty manufacturers making backpacks with bladders. What's the difference?
Specialized have a history of questionable IP litigation if I'm not mistaken. Didn't they try and sue a guy for calling his caf Roubaix or something like that? This is a bit different but I'm still not a fan.

This was the Felt IA before Specialized stepped in


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Here it is with the TriRig installed. I rode it for the first time this past weekend and do not have a bad thing to report. Actually...I love it.






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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [7ofClubs] [ In reply to ]
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Very nice!

Can you fit 24oz bottles on both seat tube and down tube at the same time?
What size is your IA 10?
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [boki] [ In reply to ]
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It is a 54. You can fit a cage on the down tube but it will only fit something the size of a Specialized "keg" storage container. I did not like the way it looked so I just left the one. If I had to guess I would bet someone is working on accessories for all the mounts.

Also, my Sitero saddle's rear bottle mount will NOT work with the seat post. I am on the fence about the calpac's opening, it kinda of reminds me of trying to jam your finger in a tic tac box. Plenty of room inside but the opening is not the best. I am an infinit user so it is not a big deal but once again I have the feeling there are going to be options down the road. There is way too much opportunity for a company like XLab not to jump all over it.

For the next few months most of my miles will be on the trainer so I will just wait to see what comes out or other STers come up with. I love the ride..it wants to go fast.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [7ofClubs] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you for the info.

That kinda sucks. Actually it double sucks, since I'm on a Sitero too and I'm super happy with the rear bottle mount setup.
I'll most likely go with size 56 but I doubt that there is any significant difference space wise in seat tube/down tube area.
I'd need seat tube/down tube bottles just for training. For racing no bottles or aero bottle.

I'm using Vitargo for my nutrition so, calpac is not that important to me although it would be nice to have different options...

Felt did great job with the IAx market wise and it will sell a bunch so, any smart accessory company should act fast to offer some different options.

Just a thought - maybe it would be possible to put a 24oz bottle on a down tube and for the seat tube use a bottle cage adapter. The Xlab has one. They call it an XLAB Aero Cage Optimizer Bottle Cage Adapter. There are some other adapters too... Maybe you can try it and let me/us know if it works? I would try it myself but I'm getting my IA 10 at the end of January.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [boki] [ In reply to ]
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Believe me I was bummed about the Sitero as well, it was such a nice clean look. X-lab produces a "Sidekick" cage that might work. I will order a couple and circle back. Worst case I have to put them on my mountain bike..
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Re: The New Felt IA [acco] [ In reply to ]
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acco wrote:
... and Inov-8 (250 ml) take up to 9-10 servings.
... Have been thinking about giving the 325 ml straw model from OMM a try also.

These two turned out to be the same size. Could put just above 300 ml in the Inov-8 and just below 300 ml in the OMM, actually. They also take the same size cap, ie. are interchangeable.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [7ofClubs] [ In reply to ]
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Sweet build, cant wait to get one! Is that the stock vision crank that came on it? What size chain rings?
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [shredz2000] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you. It is not the stock crank. My LBS happen to have a new takeoff so we swapped it out. 53x39
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [7ofClubs] [ In reply to ]
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How long did it take to get the bike after you ordered it? Do you know if there is a long lead time at this point?
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [IronStork] [ In reply to ]
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They had it in stock. I was not looking specifically for the Felt. It came down to three different bikes that would be an ideal fit...the IA10 was too nice of a price point to pass up.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [IronStork] [ In reply to ]
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I ordered mine the first week in November and I still haven't gotten it yet.

...not sure if I should be concerned if other places have them in stock.
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UPDATE

Purchased a Hydrapak SF150 to test out with the bento box. It fits... kinda. This is a totally usable solution for gels. It will hold about 5 gels with a dash of water. DO NOT fill the bottle completely, it actually makes it harder to get in and out. You will have to jiggle it a little to go in but it will go in. The soft flask will shift around to fit.

Note: You can't have anything else in the bento for this to work. I did manage to fit a chap stick but even that made it hard to get the hydrapak in. I recommend this as the best option right now until someone develops something better.

Honestly, the issue isn't so much with the bento box's size as it is the the way the lid opens. If the lid opened more none of this would be as much of a problem.

Side note: the calpac and lid are on the felt stuff website but it says they don't ship to the US. What's up with that?
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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The Sloth wrote:
UPDATE

Purchased a Hydrapak SF150 to test out with the bento box. It fits... kinda. This is a totally usable solution for gels. It will hold about 5 gels with a dash of water. DO NOT fill the bottle completely, it actually makes it harder to get in and out. You will have to jiggle it a little to go in but it will go in. The soft flask will shift around to fit.

Note: You can't have anything else in the bento for this to work. I did manage to fit a chap stick but even that made it hard to get the hydrapak in. I recommend this as the best option right now until someone develops something better.

Honestly, the issue isn't so much with the bento box's size as it is the the way the lid opens. If the lid opened more none of this would be as much of a problem.

Side note: the calpac and lid are on the felt stuff website but it says they don't ship to the US. What's up with that?
Is this compatible with the IAx frames or just the existing IA?
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [simonforster] [ In reply to ]
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Hello Simon,

I was just wondering why your lbs didn t route the rear brake cable clean through the stem instead of how it is done now. Im a store owner and we just got our first set of ia bikes here in europe. We built thevfirst one and routed the rear brake cable through that port at the side of the stem and it gives a much cleaner look.

Just my 2c

Regards,

Jeroen

Owner at TRIPRO, The Netherlands
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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They make you go through your local distributor to get these parts. I got one back in September but I had to get my LBS to contact Felt in order to get one.

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Well I just got an e-mail telling me my order has been processed and my IA14 will be shipped within 1 business day. If I'm lucky I might get it for Christmas!
I was still considering changing the order to a B12 as I expected to wait until mid January before they filled the order and had the option to cancel until then, but it looks like that decision has been made for me!

I'm sure it'll be a great bike despite my picky misgivings!
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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How long ago did you place the order? I'm going to order an IA10 tomorrow but kind of wishing I had done so earlier if they are backlogged.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [IronStork] [ In reply to ]
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I ordered about 8 weeks ago. However, I presume lead times will depend a lot on the model, when you order, on your location and the shop you're buying from. There's very little you can learn from my experience!
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I ordered mine a few weeks ago. I got the last one available in size 54.

Jim at ERO fit me to my IA10 today. This is my first tri bike. I cant wait until next years tri season.

Surprisingly it came with longer cranks than the website says (172.5 vs 170 for size 54).



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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [j.shanney] [ In reply to ]
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What do you mean "last one available" in size 54?
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [IronStork] [ In reply to ]
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IronStork wrote:
What do you mean "last one available" in size 54?

The last one in stock. Anyone else that ordered a 54 has to wait until they get their next shipment.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [j.shanney] [ In reply to ]
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I like the look of the Trek Draft Box on the IA. Congrats on your new bike

Make Inside Out Sports your next online tri shop! http://www.insideoutsports.com/
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I need a disc wheel for my bike.

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Re: The New Felt IA [Jwizzle] [ In reply to ]
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My lucky lucky husband got the IA 10 I have been coveting (after his bike got stolen). We were sitting in the living room last night admiring it, we noticed something funny (can you see it?)



(Did you find it?)

He's riding a FEL bike.

Now my question: would you want a replacement? He has his own opinion, I'm just curious how other bike fanatics would react!
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Re: The New Felt IA [Jwizzle] [ In reply to ]
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How does that get past the quality control folks and the store to even get to you? Something seems weird that it would be so wrong (missing letter and facing the wrong way. Get a replacement. Who knows what else they missed on this bike.
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Re: The New Felt IA [thugbuster] [ In reply to ]
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Is it facing the wrong way? All of the pictures I have seen are on the drivetrain side, so I can't think of any I've seen of the non-drivetrain side to compare.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Jwizzle] [ In reply to ]
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Oh you could be right about the non-drive side being the other way. Just checked my B12 and it is the opposite. My comment still stands about sending it back though. Looks like a Chinese knock-off.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Jwizzle] [ In reply to ]
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thats hilarious
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Re: The New Felt IA [y_nigel] [ In reply to ]
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Drumroll, please...



Felt IA 14
Flo 60 + DISC
Powertap P1
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Re: The New Felt IA [larsvanzanten] [ In reply to ]
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Wow! That is a great looking bike!

Make Inside Out Sports your next online tri shop! http://www.insideoutsports.com/
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Re: The New Felt IA [Jwizzle] [ In reply to ]
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That would be even funnier in Sweden, fel=error, wrong. Tell your husband that it actually says 'wrong Felt' and let him draw the conclusions. Or sell it to a Swede. :-)
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acco wrote:
That would be even funnier in Sweden, fel=error, wrong. Tell your husband that it actually says 'wrong Felt' and let him draw the conclusions. Or sell it to a Swede. :-)
"Felt wrong" would be even worse ;)
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Re: The New Felt IA [larsvanzanten] [ In reply to ]
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That looks great. I like the all black wheels.
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Re: The New Felt IA [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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i want it
alas my bike is only like 2 years old....and the wife wants a new kitchen :(
ugh.....white people problems
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larsvanzanten wrote:
Drumroll, please...



Felt IA 14
Flo 60 + DISC
Powertap P1

THAT is awesome! Great looking bike.


Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling
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Re: The New Felt IA [Jwizzle] [ In reply to ]
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Jwizzle wrote:
My lucky lucky husband got the IA 10 I have been coveting (after his bike got stolen). We were sitting in the living room last night admiring it, we noticed something funny (can you see it?)



(Did you find it?)

He's riding a FEL bike.

Now my question: would you want a replacement? He has his own opinion, I'm just curious how other bike fanatics would react!

I would be lying if I said I did not run out and check mine to make sure it was not missing the T. That being said unless they knocked the price down to cost then I would ask for a replacement (a vinyl/sign shop could make a T). Even though you know the bike is legit it could hinder his ability to sell it in the future. I know I would think twice. my 2 cents
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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For those who still haven't pulled the trigger, I ordered my IA10 today and Felt said they are expecting them in stock late January which means if I get it before February 1 it would be a win. I made sure I didn't order a "fel".
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [IronStork] [ In reply to ]
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They also had a 2015 IA3 for 25% off (in-stock) which was tempting but I really wanted DI2 so I stayed the course. But just a heads-up as may be able to get some great discounts on 2015 bikes.
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I just got a call from the courier on his way to deliver my IA14. So it should be waiting for me after work.

Perfect timing!

I'll be off from today until 4th January and my girlfriend has flown home for Christmas so assuming everything's as it should be with the bike, I'll have plenty time to play with my new toy. I'll book a bike fitting for January. I should be able to set it up pretty well myself but I'll get a second opinion. I might even try fabricating a bespoke rear storage container, but past experience tells me I'm more likely to procrastinate about that for a couple of months before doing it ;)

I'm not expecting the Hadron wheelset I'll be putting on it until a few weeks later as they were on backorder so perhaps no photos for a while yet. We've all seen the stock setup already.
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Does anyone else have an issue with the rear brake cable rubbing the stem? I cannot see a way this wouldn't rub based on the shape of the top cap and where the cable is routed.









After a few rides I can already feel the cable housing is starting to wear on the outside. Whats the best way to fix this?
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Canadian wrote:
larsvanzanten wrote:
Drumroll, please...



Felt IA 14
Flo 60 + DISC
Powertap P1


THAT is awesome! Great looking bike.

Sweet looking bike. The yellow against the black will make it stick out for sure.
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Re: The New Felt IA - IA 10, 14, 16 [The Sloth] [ In reply to ]
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