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i just received my frame set, now i'm trying to figure out what components to use for the build.[/img]
DIMOND owners out there, give me some ideas...
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......in 18 months I bet this thread will be renamed: "Remember all those wankers who bought DIMONDs?"....
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hahahahahahahahahaha

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TheRealSpanky wrote:
......in 18 months I bet this thread will be renamed: "Remember all those wankers who bough DIMONDs?"....

Possibly...But I bet it could also be renamed "A new bike really can make you faster"
The shear desire not to be "that guy/girl" getting passed by everyone while on such a nice looking machine is bound to have some great effect on peoples offseason training!!
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Re: show me your DIMOND [TheRealSpanky] [ In reply to ]
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That frame is badass and will be timeless!!
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sorry i forgot about those kind of people on here....


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Re: show me your DIMOND [lmar77] [ In reply to ]
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sorry i forgot about those kind of people on here....

No he isn't envious just a douche.
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Re: show me your DIMOND [lmar77] [ In reply to ]
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I'd highly recommend Sun Tour.
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Re: show me your DIMOND [nickwhite] [ In reply to ]
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Or Shimano Sante.

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Super proud to have worked with Dave at Zipp. One of the brightest guys I know and I couldn't be happier with the bike!



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Nice Brakes. Are they SRAM?

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Re: show me your DIMOND [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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Good question: They are Magura RT8s... we don't currently have hydro TT brakes and I love me some hydro! Plus, it is good market research.

Magura has a solid product and it is good to see good tech continuing to pervade into our sport from all angles!



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Re: show me your DIMOND [karl_a_hall] [ In reply to ]
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karl_a_hall wrote:
Good question: They are Magura RT8s... we don't currently have hydro TT brakes and I love me some hydro! Plus, it is good market research.

Magura has a solid product and it is good to see good tech continuing to pervade into our sport from all angles!

Too bad you don't know anyone at SRAM Design that could make TT hydro brakes happen... wait.

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Re: show me your DIMOND [karl_a_hall] [ In reply to ]
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Are those pads the standard pads for the Zipp bar?
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Re: show me your DIMOND [karl_a_hall] [ In reply to ]
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But seriously, nice bike.

Suffer Well.
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Re: show me your DIMOND [bwain] [ In reply to ]
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Yup!



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Re: show me your DIMOND [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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.... Oh, I see what you did there...

:-)

Thanks!



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Re: show me your DIMOND [karl_a_hall] [ In reply to ]
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wow that's just a beautiful bike with a really cool poster behind it. Well done, sir.
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Re: show me your DIMOND [lmar77] [ In reply to ]
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I can't seem to figure out how to post from my iPad but as soon as I do, I'll post a pic. I have 3T brezza bars, specialized sitero saddle, ultegra DI2, quarq Elsa pm, zipp 808 for general riding and a zipp super 9 for racing.

Congrats on an awesome bike! You're gonna love ever second you saddle it.
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Re: show me your DIMOND [Borden] [ In reply to ]
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Borden wrote:
Here is #9


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WOW - that looks amazing. CONGRATS on that ride. I am in awe.
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Re: show me your DIMOND [Borden] [ In reply to ]
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A bike like that deserves some non rusted bolts on the aerobars. Please change them or I will have to send you some ti bolts to replace those bad bolts on the aerobars.

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Re: show me your DIMOND [lmar77] [ In reply to ]
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Here are some pics.
shimano groupset, zipp vuka stealth bars, p2max type s on rotor 165mm cranks, dash TT9 saddle, tririg omega brakes




I've made a few changes since this photo - I've now placed the junction box inside the beam


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Re: show me your DIMOND [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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Those bolts got ugly quick. 3T sales a replacement kit, but I'm guessing they will do the same thing. I've been looking for an alternative, though not especially hard. Where might one score these Ti bolts?

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Borden wrote:
Those bolts got ugly quick. 3T sales a replacement kit, but I'm guessing they will do the same thing. I've been looking for an alternative, though not especially hard. Where might one score these Ti bolts?

http://www.probolt-usa.com


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Toronto Cycles dot Com is where I get all my bolts.

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BMANX wrote:
Toronto Cycles dot Com is where I get all my bolts.

They have good prices. Just ordered 4 bolts. Thanks!


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found this one on the net, wondering how good the P5 fork and nose cone fits?


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Re: show me your DIMOND [lmar77] [ In reply to ]
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OK, finally starting with my build.
As much as I love the Dimond frame, there where 2 things i didn't like about it:
#1, the 3T fork doesn't fit the frame design
#2, too much free space between the stem and the frame

So, i searched the nest to look for alternatives, found that the new cervelo fork has the same rake and will fit way nicer (my opinion). Got a good deal on a P3 fork that i will have painted soon...
Then i designed a cover to fill the space between stem and frame, Glen from Alden Tri design is helping me in building the part. So far i got the 1st revision 3D print that looks already pretty damn good.




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Re: show me your DIMOND [lmar77] [ In reply to ]
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lmar77 wrote:
OK, finally starting with my build.
As much as I love the Dimond frame, there where 2 things i didn't like about it:
#1, the 3T fork doesn't fit the frame design
#2, too much free space between the stem and the frame

So, i searched the nest to look for alternatives, found that the new cervelo fork has the same rake and will fit way nicer (my opinion). Got a good deal on a P3 fork that i will have painted soon...

Is that the FK26 frame?
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Re: show me your DIMOND [lmar77] [ In reply to ]
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These are really starting to grow on me. So much nicer than any other older beamed bike. Really seems like a better version of the short-lived Zipp frames. HOPE these stick!
anyone remember the Slingshot?
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Re: show me your DIMOND [writhe] [ In reply to ]
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nope, it's the FK37 fork, used on both the P3 and the P5/3
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Re: show me your DIMOND [lmar77] [ In reply to ]
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nice work - I really like your "space filler" between the beam and the stem. Have you designed that to hold any di2 cables etc? or does it just fill the space

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OK, finally starting with my build.
As much as I love the Dimond frame, there where 2 things i didn't like about it:
#1, the 3T fork doesn't fit the frame design
#2, too much free space between the stem and the frame

So, i searched the nest to look for alternatives, found that the new cervelo fork has the same rake and will fit way nicer (my opinion). Got a good deal on a P3 fork that i will have painted soon...
Then i designed a cover to fill the space between stem and frame, Glen from Alden Tri design is helping me in building the part. So far i got the 1st revision 3D print that looks already pretty damn good.




This build looks AWESOME. Good call on the cervelo fork.
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thenicetwin wrote:
anyone remember the Slingshot?

Thought I was the only person that remember those! I still have one...one of the 650c wheeled road frames that is currently built up as a SS. Just for putzing around town and stuff.
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Re: show me your DIMOND [robgray] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Rob! The final part will accommodate wiring and hopefully the Di2 junction box
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Re: show me your DIMOND [lmar77] [ In reply to ]
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Awesome, like to see it finished

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Re: show me your DIMOND [robgray] [ In reply to ]
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robgray wrote:
Here are some pics.
shimano groupset, zipp vuka stealth bars, p2max type s on rotor 165mm cranks, dash TT9 saddle, tririg omega brakes




I've made a few changes since this photo - I've now placed the junction box inside the beam

This thread should be outlawed....with the amount of money I intend to spend on my age group "pro" lifestyle, I don't need you guys roping me into spending even more!!!
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Re: show me your DIMOND [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Just do it. You know you'll buy one eventually, don't torture yourself in the meantime!

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Re: show me your DIMOND [karl_a_hall] [ In reply to ]
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Super proud to have worked with Dave at Zipp. One of the brightest guys I know and I couldn't be happier with the bike!

Want. So bad. Want. Kids don't need college.....daddy needs this bike.
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This thread should be outlawed....with the amount of money I intend to spend on my age group "pro" lifestyle, I don't need you guys roping me into spending even more!!!

Resistance is futile, Dev. Do yourself a favor and get one now - that way you can come to the secret Dimond party the next time you're in the Bay Area.

Ian
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Re: show me your DIMOND [lmar77] [ In reply to ]
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My baby dressed for the soul crushing hell in Kona. Beautiful new Ceramic Speed pulleys I won at the Slowtwitch gathering included. Nothing new on race day... Ha!


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Re: show me your DIMOND [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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Wow, that Cervelo fork looks perfect on there.
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Re: show me your DIMOND [karl_a_hall] [ In reply to ]
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From the folks at Ruster Sports I understand the installation of the rear Magura brake is very tricky on the Dimond.They are buiding a Dimond for me and I have a set of RT6 brakes I would like them to use .Can you elaborate on the issues of mounting this brake?Many thanks
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sneeuwaap wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
This thread should be outlawed....with the amount of money I intend to spend on my age group "pro" lifestyle, I don't need you guys roping me into spending even more!!!


Resistance is futile, Dev. Do yourself a favor and get one now - that way you can come to the secret Dimond party the next time you're in the Bay Area.

Ian

I think I need to Kona Qual like all the Dimond studs to qualify for that party in the first place!!! Then again, perhaps the road to Kona requires the purchase of the Dimond prior to the qualifier event!!! Maybe I should kick my son in a butt to study harder so he can double his university scholarship money and i can pocket the delta for a Dimond! Whatever happened to the old way of putting yourself through university like the rest of us ????
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devashish_paul wrote:
sneeuwaap wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
This thread should be outlawed....with the amount of money I intend to spend on my age group "pro" lifestyle, I don't need you guys roping me into spending even more!!!


Resistance is futile, Dev. Do yourself a favor and get one now - that way you can come to the secret Dimond party the next time you're in the Bay Area.

Ian


I think I need to Kona Qual like all the Dimond studs to qualify for that party in the first place!!! Then again, perhaps the road to Kona requires the purchase of the Dimond prior to the qualifier event!!! Maybe I should kick my son in a butt to study harder so he can double his university scholarship money and i can pocket the delta for a Dimond! Whatever happened to the old way of putting yourself through university like the rest of us ????

For me the order was Dimond first, then KQ. I'm not saying it was the Dimond that did it; I'm not saying it wasn't...

BTW, pic of my Dimond post in this thread: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...g=sneeuwaap;#5338680. My position looks less aggressive than those shown in the other posters' pics, but then again I'm old. :-)

Ian
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Re: show me your DIMOND [carbonsport] [ In reply to ]
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Good question. Since I work in the industry as an engineer I prefer to stay silent on this as to avoid the apparence of condoning a specific way of doing somewhat non-standard work. I say that as a somewhat professional courtesy that I too would ideally appreciate from other engineers in the industry who are using product I design in not so average and standard ways. I think good mechanical minds who truly understand hydro brakes can figure it out... Hence why I'm ok being silent. That being said, one of my best friends (and former coworker at Zipp and project designer for things like the 303, 202, Super9CC) is the director of engineering at Ruster/Dimond and he may have a few good ideas on how to install them ;-) I would trust him!

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Boom! Done! :-)



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It's a Christmas miracle!

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lmar77 wrote:
Boom! Done! :-)



Love that all black. Nice!
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lmar77 wrote:
Boom! Done! :-)



Looks great except for the wires hanging on the extensions - what's up with that?


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Re: show me your DIMOND [natethomas] [ In reply to ]
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i knew someone would call me out on that. reason is, the possibility of turning the shifters inwards, so i left them loose for now...
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Re: show me your DIMOND [Borden] [ In reply to ]
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what mount is that behind the saddle holding the co2?

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life is good when sitting on a beam!!!





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Re: show me your DIMOND [TheRealSpanky] [ In reply to ]
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TheRealSpanky wrote:
......in 18 months I bet this thread will be renamed: "Remember all those wankers who bought DIMONDs?"....
In May 2016 we'll know if Jesse Thomas still keeps winning WF and if Jordan Rapp has set a new IMAZ bike course record. The gall of some non-paying wankers.
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So does the Dimond beam have any shock absorption to it like the Softrides did? or does it just look awesome?
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Looks fantastic!
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Just got this back from the paint shop.
Shared it on social media but figured it would be appreciated here.



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Re: show me your DIMOND [seiken] [ In reply to ]
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From Dimond's Director of Engineering in another thread: I saw quite a bit of discussion about saddle suspension so Id like to offer info here as well. We designed the top tube to be rigid. On a size medium frame there is 0.065mm of flex per kg on the saddle. For a 75kg person, the saddle would drop about 4-5mm if they put all of their weight on it. The sensation while riding feels quite smooth.

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waitebe wrote:
From Dimond's Director of Engineering in another thread: I saw quite a bit of discussion about saddle suspension so Id like to offer info here as well. We designed the top tube to be rigid. On a size medium frame there is 0.065mm of flex per kg on the saddle. For a 75kg person, the saddle would drop about 4-5mm if they put all of their weight on it. The sensation while riding feels quite smooth.


What is the lowest saddle height you can get to on a size small from centre of bb to the top of the saddle with a 45mm 'stack" (by that I mean the distance from center of rail to top of saddle surface...most saddles seems to be 4-5 cm). I need this number to be 67.5 cm....I could get away with 68, but then it eliminates some saddles with higher stack.

thanks.

Dev
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Re: show me your DIMOND [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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look at my bike

71cm of saddle height. (my slr as 3.4mm stack)

i could 100% sure drop the seat post 5cm. (i think it can be drop more but i would have to ask the engineer about it to be sound...)

so 71- 5 +1.1 = 67.1cm for your saddle height. This dosnt include the beam deflection once your on the bike so most people ride a little higher saddles to adjust for this.

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This small Dimond has a 69.5cm seat height.


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I think that number would change in the dynamic forces of riding and hitting bumps, I just don't know how to even come close to calculating it.
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devashish_paul wrote:
waitebe wrote:
From Dimond's Director of Engineering in another thread: I saw quite a bit of discussion about saddle suspension so Id like to offer info here as well. We designed the top tube to be rigid. On a size medium frame there is 0.065mm of flex per kg on the saddle. For a 75kg person, the saddle would drop about 4-5mm if they put all of their weight on it. The sensation while riding feels quite smooth.


What is the lowest saddle height you can get to on a size small from centre of bb to the top of the saddle with a 45mm 'stack" (by that I mean the distance from center of rail to top of saddle surface...most saddles seems to be 4-5 cm). I need this number to be 67.5 cm....I could get away with 68, but then it eliminates some saddles with higher stack.

thanks.

Dev

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Finally put some finishing touches on it.
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Re: show me your DIMOND [EricLimkemann] [ In reply to ]
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Damn, that's amazing. With a bike that beautiful I'd be afraid to actually race it and have some dork gouge it up when they rack their MTB next to it. Have you had your alarm system installed yet?
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Thank you. Alarm system installed, but the most interesting part was trying to convince the insurance company the value of the bike...

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So I think it may be time to sell the Shiv and pick up a Dimond. I keep drooling on my keyboard when I look at this thread.

Question for those running Di2. Where are you putting the battery and what battery are you using??
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Re: show me your DIMOND [IronSnowman] [ In reply to ]
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In the bike shown it uses the cylindrical battery and it is double-sided-taped to the inside of the beam just behind the headttube. This seems to work out pretty well.

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markreith wrote:
Finally put some finishing touches on it.

That is exactly how I'm planning on building mine should I pull the trigger and finally get one. Just love the red. Beautiful!!
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Re: show me your DIMOND [waitebe] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. That is what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure.
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Battery and D-fly are in the beam. I could get the 5-port junction in there too if I get longer e-tube cables from the front shifters. For now, it's in the bento.
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For you guys on the small frame, what is your pad reach (Horizontal distance from center of BB to center of middle of your aerobar pads) and what length stem are you using? I currently ride a 51cm P2 and trying to figure out if a small will fit me length wise.

Thanks,
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Herbie Hancock wrote:
For you guys on the small frame, what is your pad reach (Horizontal distance from center of BB to center of middle of your aerobar pads) and what length stem are you using? I currently ride a 51cm P2 and trying to figure out if a small will fit me length wise.

Thanks,




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Re: show me your DIMOND [Jamaican] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks, the stack and reach in the chart is frame stack and reach. I was acquiring about pad reach which is a different measurement.

Jamaican wrote:
Herbie Hancock wrote:
For you guys on the small frame, what is your pad reach (Horizontal distance from center of BB to center of middle of your aerobar pads) and what length stem are you using? I currently ride a 51cm P2 and trying to figure out if a small will fit me length wise.

Thanks,


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If you have the pad x/y of your current bike, it should be fairly straightforward to find out whether or not the small would fit you.
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Herbie Hancock wrote:
Thanks, the stack and reach in the chart is frame stack and reach. I was acquiring about pad reach which is a different measurement.

Well take the frame reach and add in the stem length and distance from the pads to the stem, that will give you the pad "reach".
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As other have said, the mesurement you need is the frame stack and reach. Then, it become easy to see if you will be able to reproduce your p2 fit.

in this case, Dimond as 40.5 reach your old p2 as the same identical reach 40.5. So for the same given stem and bar/aerobar...you will have a identical reach.

if you have the new p2.... your reach would be 39.7 so you would need a stem 1 cm shorter on the dimond to have the same exact reach.


does this help?

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I made an insert out of foam that fits inside the beam and hold the regular size Di2 battery.
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Re: show me your DIMOND [markreith] [ In reply to ]
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did you order your frame with bottle bosses drilled into the beam or how did you mount that bento?
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Do you compensate for any stem rise taking off length from the stem length measurement?
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Herbie Hancock wrote:
Do you compensate for any stem rise taking off length from the stem length measurement?

If you need to do stem math, this is super handy:

http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php



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I had the Dimond folks drill bosses for the bento. Works out well.
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seiken wrote:
So does the Dimond beam have any shock absorption to it like the Softrides did? or does it just look awesome?

Ben gave a good reply, but the easiest rule of thumb is that it basically "feels" like an extra 2mm of tire width (with appropriately lower pressure). So if you run 23mm @ 105-110psi, it will feel like 25mm @ 95-100psi.

The flex in terms of mm is nice to know, but most people (IME) have a hard time conceptualizing that actually means.


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Deflection of a beam is actually pretty easy to calculate and even easier in FEA given the force applied. Manufacturers have tons of data to show forces experienced while riding across various terrains - just slap an accelerometer on and hit an Indiana winter pothole at full speed and you've got it.

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I have been wanting to post this for a while but just too busy/lazy. I saw this thread and got inspired. I LOVE this bike.

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This small Dimond has a 69.5cm seat height.

So if I want to ride 68 cm saddle height at 140 lbs, I'd set it up around 68.5 cm, which means I would not to cut around 1 cm off the seat post carbon which I assume can be done easily with a hacksaw. Reach is only 1 cm longer than my P3, so 1 cm shorter stem takes care of that.
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So if I want to ride 68 cm saddle height at 140 lbs, I'd set it up around 68.5 cm, which means I would not to cut around 1 cm off the seat post carbon which I assume can be done easily with a hacksaw. Reach is only 1 cm longer than my P3, so 1 cm shorter stem takes care of that.

I'm kind of in a similar boat. I'm on a small Shiv with the aerostem set at 65mm. The reach on the Dimond is 2cm longer, but no one makes a 65mm stem. The Zipp Vuka Stealth, or Pro Missile Evo seem to be the best choice. I really like the Tririg Alpha, but I don't know if I can get the pads back far enough to match my current pad reach.
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Look at MTB stems

Consider just leaving the pads as far back as you can get them and shortening the extensions. Position is where you want it, pads just sit farther forward on your arms.

Sometimes this works fine. Just depends on you. You could experiment with it by moving your current pads forward and see how it feels.

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devashish_paul wrote:

So if I want to ride 68 cm saddle height at 140 lbs, I'd set it up around 68.5 cm, which means I would not to cut around 1 cm off the seat post carbon which I assume can be done easily with a hacksaw. Reach is only 1 cm longer than my P3, so 1 cm shorter stem takes care of that.

I'm kind of in a similar boat. I'm on a small Shiv with the aerostem set at 65mm. The reach on the Dimond is 2cm longer, but no one makes a 65mm stem. The Zipp Vuka Stealth, or Pro Missile Evo seem to be the best choice. I really like the Tririg Alpha, but I don't know if I can get the pads back far enough to match my current pad reach.



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Thanks jackmott. Here is what I'm planning for my build after talking with my fitter last night

Small Dimond frame
Vuka Stealth bars (short)
Magura RT8 TT brakes
R671 Shifters
6880 FD & RD
808s with a disc out back when allowed

And I'll be sitting atop my beloved Dash TT9 saddle.
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So if I want to ride 68 cm saddle height at 140 lbs, I'd set it up around 68.5 cm, which means I would not to cut around 1 cm off the seat post carbon which I assume can be done easily with a hacksaw. Reach is only 1 cm longer than my P3, so 1 cm shorter stem takes care of that.

Don't forget to account for pedaling forces. You're not going to apply 140lbs to the saddle when you're putting out 100 lbs of force on the pedal.
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And your body weight being supported by your front end...

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While I'm waiting for my frame to be delivered, I've been thinking about nutrition storage. Since my stem will be slammed I don't want to mount a bento on the top of the beam as this seems like it would be just sitting up there for the wind to catch. So here is what I'm thinking so far for a 140.6:

X-lab torpedo for BTA hydration
X-Lab 400i with 2 cages and a mini bag to hold spare tube, levers, ect.
Salt sticks in the bar ends

This leaves me wondering where to put my Bonk Breakers. If I carry the BTA and two bottles on the back of the saddle, I'll only need one water stop (unless it's extremely hot) if I can figure out how to carry the three bars I'll need to get me to a water stop at about the three hour mark. My current thought is to use one of Glen Alden's computer mounts behind the torpedo with the bars taped to it vertically. I'll have to tape each bar separately so I can remove one at a time, but it should work.

Any one else have an idea?
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Many Bentos are low enough that even with a slammed stem they won't show. Seems to me like a two-bottle rear setup might be less aero than the top of a bento peeking over the stem.

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devashish_paul wrote:
So if I want to ride 68 cm saddle height at 140 lbs, I'd set it up around 68.5 cm, which means I would not to cut around 1 cm off the seat post carbon which I assume can be done easily with a hacksaw. Reach is only 1 cm longer than my P3, so 1 cm shorter stem takes care of that.


Don't forget to account for pedaling forces. You're not going to apply 140lbs to the saddle when you're putting out 100 lbs of force on the pedal.

That's a good point...I guess my saddle height is effectively higher at 260W than at 180W !!! So you need a lower saddle height for sprint tris!!!!
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Agree with tessartype. And since you plan on having a BTA also, the bento should see very little wind even if it does peek over the stem.
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It is a 55 tooth TT chain ring (we also call it it our Aero Chain Ring)... We make them in 53, 54, an 55.



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If you go with a bag that has a rounded front it actually captures the air and sweeps it over the top. Check out the Stealth Pocket 400. We tested this bag with ERO Sports on a bike that had a slammed/integrated stem, and there was actually a savings of having the bag on there vs not having one.

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Thanks Candice.

I did have the 500 on my list as the one I'd use if I go that route. I'm a sucker for a clean top tube though. I was looking at the 400i that I have mounted on the back of my saddle and I do believe that I have enough room to fit 2 bonk breakers in there, but I need to come up with a way to allow me to remove just one at a time. Time to hit the drawing board and see what I can come up with.
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Can you wedge them & strap them down just underneath the Torpedo bottle between the bottle & the Torpedo mount? I have seen gels up there so can't see why you couldn't do the same with bars. Then you don't have to reach back to get a bar.

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I'm still waiting on the frame, but the rest of the Di2 goodies should be here Wednesday. So I thought I'd get a start with what I have on hand. Just one e-tube wire fished through the bars ready to be cut and spliced into the shifters to keep everything clean and hidden.





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My new girl is finally dressed and ready to dance!


Also, the Dimond boys are in a close contest! Take a second and vote! Once/day allowed.
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EricLimkemann wrote:
My new girl is finally dressed and ready to dance!

Wow.

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Is that a new fairing between the stem and frame?
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so much wow
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Great build! Some more photos details of your bars and cable routing would be helpful.

x2 on the cable entry cover question. Is that an Alden part? Very clean with the fork steerer and Vuka tucked down tight above the headtube:)
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Yep, it's an Alden part. He sent over a 3d printed fairing that I'm having painted to blend in a bit more with the frame.
He also did my BTA mount. Awesome stuff!
http://www.alden-designs.com

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I'll get a few close up pics to share. Yes it's pretty clean with the battery and junction box tucked into the top beam.
Only thing better would be a new front end from Dimond... we can only hope!

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Also, the Dimond boys are in a close contest! Take a second and vote! Once/day allowed.http://www.dreambiggrowhere.com/...ails.aspx?entry=1174[/quote[/url]]

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Eric, What width Alden BTA mount did you get with the Zipp Vuka Stealth? The standard or the wide version? I have my Vuka Stealth on the way but don't have a width measurement on the extensions yet. Thanks.
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Yep, it's an Alden part. He sent over a 3d printed fairing that I'm having painted to blend in a bit more with the frame.
He also did my BTA mount. Awesome stuff!
http://www.alden-designs.com

I'm impressed. The Glen Alden part makes a very visible difference over the standard beam. Nice work.

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It's the standard width. Pretty adjustable and has been solid for 3 years of consistent use. The garmin hides nicely behind the bottle, but may be a bit too far back for those riding very forward.

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Here is a close up of the cables coming off of the bars into the beam. Pretty easy if you have the right mechanic working for you.
The fairing is in the shop being painted but will sit right on top of everything. I've drilled out a hole for the brake cable to pass through.



With the flash, you can really see how the paint job will look when the sun hits it...

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Thanks Eric! Looks nice. The cover will be a bonus. Short stem on the Vuka Stealth? The photo is a little left for stack details. Those are the 25mm risers on the base bar?
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Yes, sorry. 25mm risers with a slammed stem. I've actually dropped from 50mm risers and a few spacers on the Shiv a few years ago to only the 25mm risers on the relatively lower Dimond. I've been working with Dave Luscan quite a bit on my fit and have slowly evolved it to a much slipperier position. The move from 175mm cranks to 170 and now 165 mm has made most of the difference. It's taken 3 years of gradual changes and I'm still not sure I'm done, but I've been careful not to lose any power in the process. The bike is important, but position is king.

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Jordan,

Where did you put waterbottle bosses on your bike? I'm thinking I want them on the top tube for a bento box and down tube for an extra water bottle for training.
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Jordan, you've gone on about how the Dimond allows for modular enhancements. Will the new, teased superfork be plug and play with the current frames?

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Yes, according to the guys from DIMOND the new fork is intended to be used with the current frame
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Jordan,

Where did you put waterbottle bosses on your bike? I'm thinking I want them on the top tube for a bento box and down tube for an extra water bottle for training.

Downtube and top tube. I am not sure which - if any - I will use. But it made no sense to me not to have the option.


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Yes. Those statements were made in advance of the new fork being announced publicly, but with knowledge that a new fork was indeed coming and that it would be compatible with the existing frame.


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Here it is. Well not yet anyway. Chris sent me a handwritten card in the mail and I wanted to share it as I'm rather impressed that anyone would take the time to do this.


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It's even more beautiful in person.


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with that stack height you are a good candidate for a Torhans bento and Glen Alden fairing or whatever Jesse Thomas is using.

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Does anybody know what fairing Jesse Thomas is using? UPS just dropped off my frameset on my front doorstep. I can't wait to get home and start building it up.
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my ride, all finished, including the final hydration options (BTA and BTS cage). Handlebars wrapped and rider fitted :-)
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Making progress. Just need to trim the seatpost about an inch and chop off all at usless sterrer tube. I'm also waiting on a few items to finish the build.


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Here's my rough draft. Should be done in about a week with the build.



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Here's my rough draft. Should be done in about a week with the build.


Hey Steve! What'll be the maiden race for the new bike? What group set you going with?


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Here's my rough draft. Should be done in about a week with the build.


Is it me or are those extensions really long??

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First race is Colorado Sprint Tri on May 31, followed up by Boulder 70.3 two weeks later.

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Super proud to have worked with Dave at Zipp. One of the brightest guys I know and I couldn't be happier with the bike!





I wish I would have seen these in person before buying a new P5!!! I saw Dimond booth at Oceanside and fell in love with the bike. If someone wants a basically brand new P5 with less than100km on it, I'll buy one of these!
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So how are you all liking the Dimond bike?
What do you love about it?
What do you dislike about it?
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So how are you all liking the Dimond bike?
What do you love about it?
What do you dislike about it?

I would love to answer all these questions, but I've really be slacking with getting my build finished. Life and training are getting in the way. I just need to take a few hours and finish it. That said, I love the engineering that went into this frame. I've got a lot of experience in working with carbon (making prototype motorcycle body work for my race bikes) and I was highly impressed when I took a real close look at the insides of the frame.
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Did you get your fairing on the bike yet?
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Yep, fairing is on and has been perfect so far. Have it loosely two side taped on and throw on a bit of electrical tape for races to make sure no race-day malfunctions... Probably should have cleaned up the bike before snapping the picture, but you get the idea.

Loving the bike so far after the first thousand miles.



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Finally ready. Complete with fully custom minimized Di2 wiring job that I did.










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For those that have been riding their DIMOND for a little while can people give me their impressions so far? I've been considering the DIMOND however as a bigger athlete 180lbs a stiff frame is a must. I had a felt b2 pro that I absolutely would abuse while climbing (you could hear and feel the frame flex while climbing). I've had a p5 for a while and love the stiffness/aero qualities of the bike but quite frankly it's a beast to travel with or work on and is not the lightest bike in the world. Yes I want the best of both worlds; I want a super light frame that is super stiff and climbs very well. So can anybody speak to the following?
1. How is the stiffness of the bike?
2. While climbing do you notice any "give" due to the lack of down tube?
3. How does the weight stack up to the P5?

Yes I'm aware that I could solve the weight issue by eating less sandwhiches....
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1. Bottom bracket and chainstays are crazy stiff. But I'm only 5'6" and 141lb. putting out about 300w on climbs.
2. None. It is a different feeling at first as the beam has some flex in it that aids in comfort, but the rigidity of the BB and chainstays are what matters when climbing anyhow.
3. Never weighed the bike

I'm completely in love with the bike so far. On a 20 mile loop that I've ridden more times than my Garmin can count, I set a new PR that was 00:01:03 faster than I've ever done the loop on my Shiv. The time savings was nice but after 20 hard miles, I was able to jump into my shoes and run feeling better than I ever have coming off the bike. That is a huge plus for me as I'm used to needing a mile or two to get my legs under me on the run.
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I never get a good feel for a bike until you actually race it. The first race is this weekend.

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Thanks that is really helpful.
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That's the truth. Id would be very interested to see how it goes. Good luck!!!!
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Hi Jordan, TJ, Jackmott, Jim@ERO, Desertdude, Rruff, Jonnyo and other aero gurus. With the lack of data floating around about the Dimond, may I ask if there is any particular aerobar/basebar (presuming they can be adjusted to the user's fit) that interacts best with the bike? Or does any nonintegrated headset retain its individual aeroness when attached to a Dimond? Considering the Ventus II, Profile Design Aeria, Tririg Alpha/X (depending on availability) and possibly the Zipp cockpits.
Thanks so much in advance for your opinions!
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I am not aware of any testing of different cockpits on the bike. I'd be surprised if any was different on the bike than alone though. Ben Waite (waitebe) is the best guy to answer this. He does bar development at Zipp. We worked together on the Vuka Stealth.


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I just got mine two hours ago. Can't stop smiling.

All she needs is some tape and she's ready for QC Tri!


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that is a bad ass paint job
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here is mine


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amazing!

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sweet as!

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Love the paint choice!
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What are folks riding for saddle heights on the medium size Dimond?
I'm coming from a medium SC9 with a saddle height of 74cm, 100/45 stem, and about 1cm of spacers under the aero bars. Distance from nose of sitero saddle to middle of arm pads is 49-50cm.
I feel like I am between sizes (small or medium), don't really want a stack of spacers under the stem nor a ton of seat post showing above the beam on a small bike...
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Something seems to be missing here??


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Holy crap, how did you get that giant bike into your house!
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Venus bars... YES!!!

what's that spacer thingy underneath? Is is a backwards 3T spacer? SO close to perfection.

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You're actually seeing two things there. First, there's two or three spacers under the stem as we work to get the bike dialed. One of the considerations for removing those will be the routing of the Di2 wiring - certainly don't want a case where the front wheel is turned such that it can yank out a cable. The second is the Di2 junction box. It's nice to have it there to be accessible, but I have been thinking a bit about where else I might be able to hide the box.

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As a former Ventus user, you might consider slamming the stem and using the 30mm spacers. Also, for fit dialing, the 3T wide arm pad kit is excellent for adjusting both width AND reach

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I'll be seething with envy... Hope you swim fast or I might just accidentally mistake it for my shiv.
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Yeah, but I'm trying to work with the stack/reach and the wiring, as well avoiding interference where the tail of the stem crosses the top tube - quite a bit going on there. My current plan is to drop 10mm or so and add 10mm risers and call it good for the summer.
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You might consider Kamm tailing the back of the stem that's what I did

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Like this? I was pretty nervous making the first stroke with that hacksaw.

ETA: yes, I cut the stem after...

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Wow, dudes. That looks pretty hardcore. I'm not against it necessarily, but I think I've got a few steps down before I consider that move.
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With no dealer network, how do you test ride a Dimond? Do they have a traveling show? Didn't see anything on the website.

Surprised that the first ride on a Dimond for so many seems to be after they've bought one. Especially for a bike that's such a departure from the norm.

But, if anyone with a medium decides they don't like it...
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You can request that the Dimond Van make a stop in your locality. Friend them on Facebook.

Also, test rides are the most overrated aspect of bike purchasing, especially for triathlon bikes. With the Dimond, I suppose there are some legit concerns that the ride will be appreciably different than a traditional frame. At this point, there are enough people with the bikes who are verifying that the ride is quite nice, and really no different than any other high end bike. Maybe even a touch more comfortable.

If you want one, make sure you get the right size. Fit first with this purchase. Call them up on the phone after your fit and they will get you on the right size.


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They do have a travelling show. Check out the 'Dimond Van' on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/...p?id=100009189327840

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They do have a travelling show. Check out the 'Dimond Van' on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/...p?id=100009189327840

Perfect. Thanks. I'll be on the lookout for an event close by.
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I took a test ride, it felt good, but I didnt know why.

Having put many miles into mine already, I can tell you why now. The beam. It absorbs some of the chatter on the road from bad roads. Will that make me more aero? Maybe, because the more I ride it, the more I can stay in aero for longer periods because I am not having to adjust my position based on being banged around from the roads. I am still getting used to the handling, but others have said that it is far better handling technical descents than their 'other' bikes. I havent gotten that yet, but I have been working on getting used to a slightly newer position, and am still a bit timid with how the bike reacts. Pushing it more every time I ride.
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I test rode one when they came by Houston a couple months ago. I took it out on a short loop with some rough pavement and found that while I could feel the road chatter in my shoulders, very little was transferred through the seat. That's the best way I can describe it. I didn't think it was anything magical but I only had the bike for 30 minutes. I might be a convert after a 5 hour ride but I'm not willing to ditch my perfectly good bike to find out.

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For $6k (frame alone), I need a pretty extensive test ride, with some time trialing, etc. Fortunately, I have a powertap, so I'd be able to compare directly to my bike, ideally on the same course. Still not terribly scientific, but if the gain isn't measurable with some simple testing, it probably isn't worth the investment.

Hopefully, the van will come back to the Southeast.
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You're not going to find that value you are looking for with a stopwatch. You buy this bike for some combination of:

-looks unique
-looks fast
-you like TJ
-you want to stand out

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The Dimond really interests me but I can't get past the fork. You have this muscular looking machine with little spindly forks. I know it probably doesn't amount to a hill of beans from a performance and quality standpoint but it's an aesthetic thing that I can't get past or ignore. You know... my 2014 Trek Speed Concept 9-series is getting a little long in the tooth.

There have been some rumors of a v2 fork design. Is that on the horizon?

Sort of replying to Rapp in particular but anyone feel free to chime in.

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Define "horizon"


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Rappstar wrote:
Define "horizon"

Translation: YES

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In regards to the fork, i was at Eagleman and had the chance to see the dimond, wow what bike. I asked them about the fork: its in the works, but current owners will be given first crack at it! like you i could not get passed the fork, idk weird right. Maybe by 2016 when the new fork comes out my 2014 SC will starting seeming old enough to warrant a upgrade?

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Here's my new ride.




My mechanic did a fantastic job of keeping the di2 junction box accessible yet aero.




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In regards to the fork, i was at Eagleman and had the chance to see the dimond, wow what bike. I asked them about the fork: its in the works, but current owners will be given first crack at it! like you i could not get passed the fork, idk weird right. Maybe by 2016 when the new fork comes out my 2014 SC will starting seeming old enough to warrant a upgrade?

We think alike. The fork is a complete turn off for me right now. It's like putting some Kenyan marathon runner's legs on Usain Bolt's body. :-)

It would also be hard to give up the SC draft box and storage options.

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That's my favorite diamond paint job yet. Very nice.
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BBLOEHR wrote:
In regards to the fork, i was at Eagleman and had the chance to see the dimond, wow what bike. I asked them about the fork: its in the works, but current owners will be given first crack at it! like you i could not get passed the fork, idk weird right. Maybe by 2016 when the new fork comes out my 2014 SC will starting seeming old enough to warrant a upgrade?


We think alike. The fork is a complete turn off for me right now. It's like putting some Kenyan marathon runner's legs on Usain Bolt's body. :-)

It would also be hard to give up the SC draft box and storage options.


lol, great analogy! Whats that phrase? Great minds think.......
Yea SC Draft box is one of main reason i got the SC! I did also ask the diamond guy about paint, they have a guy near them that can do any custom paint you want (at a fee of course) so big props on this one! Just going to wait for that fork, till then my neon yellow SC will do just fine.

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Is that matte silver? Curious as to how much it shoes dirt/fingerprints, compared to something like the matte white P3.
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Downsized to a size small?
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Nope, still a medium, but adjusted the saddle position to allow for riding 'off the front' comfortably. the bars actually came up and back a bit, which I know is probably a slowtwitch no-no but the tweaks have helped with power and speed as I get back from the wreck in Knoxville.

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Man, that DI2 junction box is going to see a lot of sweat. I hope it holds up for you, but salt water and electronics do not mix.
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+1 on these questions. I have a P5/6 and love it but am extremely curious about the Dimond. Is it that much better (i.e. worth the money)? Of course, the weakest part of my P5 (me) would be powering the Dimond as well. Not to mention, SRAM Red vs Ultegra components, Magura brakes vs standard, etc.
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Hi Jordan and other aero gurus! I just wanted to check whether the Zipp sub 9 or super 9 would be better for the Dimond since it has no seat stay? Some previous ST discussions favored super 9 for faired seatstays and sub 9 for unfaired, which had me wondering why you and TJ Tollakson prefer the super 9. Both available for my use, both tubulars. Thanks!
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Hi Jordan and other aero gurus! I just wanted to check whether the Zipp sub 9 or super 9 would be better for the Dimond since it has no seat stay? Some previous ST discussions favored super 9 for faired seatstays and sub 9 for unfaired, which had me wondering why you and TJ Tollakson prefer the super 9. Both available for my use, both tubulars. Thanks!

If was running tubulars, I'd probably opt for the Sub9. But there is no clincher Sub9, which is why I use the Sub9. Of course, one of the other big benefits of the Sub9 is the more vertically compliant ride, which you don't need on a Dimond.

TJ and I both use the Super9 because we're avowed clincher riders. But if that weren't the case, I would *guess* (educated - I hope - guess) say we'd use the Sub9.

The Sub9 disc will probably never get a CC version just because of how it's made. It's an (overly, IMO) complicated process with the bladder molding required for the bulge.


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Awesome! Thanks so much again for all the input. The bike's ready to go! (The rider isn't, but that's a whole different story)


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Thanks! Can't take credit for that. Kevin Brooks of Brooks Airbrush studio custom painted it for the first owner, who owns a boutique bike shop in NY. It's really nice! The parts I added on haven't been painted to match - yet :).
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Stunning Bike - this is exactly how I would set up a Dimond if I could afford one... :(

I'd throw on my current Ventus II, Magura brakes, and Sub-9 / 808. I would just run a Sram 1x11 drivetrain (ala Rappstar) and lose that Torhans infavour of a regular BTA (horizontal) bottle, as for me that Torhans ruins the beatiful continuous "wing" of the Ventus.

Now if Dimond could just release the frameset with an updated fork, and change that ugly seatpost clamp, I might find the $$$ for one...!
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Awesome! Thanks so much again for all the input. The bike's ready to go! (The rider isn't, but that's a whole different story)



Great looking bike.
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Thanks to Chris for the persuasion, Brad for the patience and Ethan for helping Mr Non Mechanic get it together.

Still a few bits to add - Delta 225 rear hydration / Torhans AeroZ up front / TriRig Alpha X bars to declutter the front end (whenever they finally appear!)






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wow now that you pointed out that fork/frame gap it can't be unseen!

awesome idea with the cervelo fork.
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wow now that you pointed out that fork/frame gap it can't be unseen!

awesome idea with the cervelo fork.

Just wait until the new fork is released. I don't think it will disappoint.
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A little late posting but that's because I've been having too much fun riding it!




I love everything about it! Wheeeeeeeeee!

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Picture is too small

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Tried a different hosting site..... Better?
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much better

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Bar 3T Aduro
Chainrings: Rotor QXL 54/44, rotor 3D+ 165mm cranks
Saddle: Dash TT.9
Brakes: Tri rig Omega X
Wheels: Zipp Super 9 CC disc, 808 FC
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thanks, should be working now

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wow, that's a nice paint job!

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Finally finished:
P5-6 Fork
3T Aduro (with beard)
Magura brakes (with fairing)
Dura Ace Di2
P2M
Super 9/808FC



Closeup of the fork and cockpit. No wires, minimal gaps.


From the top.


What the wind sees.

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This is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen!
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x1000

Very classy look!
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Wow. The P5-6 fork and aerobars make that bike look incredible. Great job!

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That thing looks like 10 years into the future!

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damn! that has to be the slickest lookign rig I have ever seen. fantastic work!
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Nice work on the Dimond. I am waiting for the new Dimond fork but that one looks great. Any custom work or is it a straight fit? Sweet ride!

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Which extensions are those? When in the aerobars do you put you elbows on the pads?

As a general question do people find the Dimond damps road vibration when riding chip and seal or other poor roads?
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Nice work on the Dimond. I am waiting for the new Dimond fork but that one looks great. Any custom work or is it a straight fit? Sweet ride!

Thanks for the kind words everyone!

The original inspiration was Zachboring's P3 with the Aduro/P5-6 fork:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...e_Anything_P5635494/

Sourced the parts from ST Classifieds and eBay. Jordan's opinion re: the Magura simplified the fairing choice. The beard is standard although minor sanding of the bottom was done to perfect the fit. The only custom bit is replacing the metal cover for the wire entry into the downtube with a carbon fiber piece (plastic will work as well) which allowed a little more forward position and lateral play for the wires.

A discussion re: Sub-9 vs Super-9 by Joshatsilca and Jordan, and multiple threads of 1080 vs 808FC convinced me to shift wheelsets:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...;;page=unread#unread

The extensions are a lesser known brand (Planet X, if I recall correctly) but there were available alternatives of Profile Design Stryke carbon and PD T4+ aluminum, both of which would have gotten the angulation needed. Elbows on the pad, although I could use forearms and grip lower if necessary. Andrew Coggan and AndyF of Alphamantis:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...g=jim%40ero;#5704619
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I'm absolutely more comfortable on chip sealed or similar roads with the Dimond than my previous TT bike (a Blue). It makes staying in aero on those roads much more manageable for me.
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Anyone move from a P5 to a Dimond that could offer direct comparisons? Was it worth it?
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I will drop the question into the owners page on FB. But you are unlikely to get a negative response! No-one I know that has jumped ship onto a Dimond has been anything other than really happy with the ride quality and / or speed. They may be able to give you some direct comparisons though.

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Thanks. I'll have to follow up with you as I don't have FB. I've been eying the bike for awhile and am curious about direct comparisons / impressions from people that have ridden (and potentially raced) both.
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Why are you wanting to switch?

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A couple of reasons. First and shortest is the performance potential, particularly in windy conditions. I've never appreciated the value of a few minutes until this season (my second in tri) when I was out of the top seven in my AG by literally two minutes in two races and one by a single second. Second, I really like the idea of a small, American business taking a novel design and doing it well. If the Dimond and P5 hit the market at the same time I would have bought the Dimond simply for that reason. Third, traveling with the P5 is a massive pain.

This is a really good question that I've contemplated for a few months. I love my P5; it is truly a remarkable bike, capable of faster speeds than I am able to reach. I've managed to drop 13 minutes off my bike PR this season through hard work and can't help but to wonder if things are truly greener in the beam pasture.
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If you do get a Dimond, you have to get one with the new fork. It makes the bike look so much better

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Yes I made the transition about 8 weeks ago. It has been an up and down process. To be be respectful of the public forum. PM me if you would like to know more.

In short.
Pros: it's a fast stiff bike
Cons: they're having trouble delivering consistently
Pros: they understand their difficulties and are working to correct them.
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PM Sent.
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First race was 10 days ago and it didn't disappoint!

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I think the 3T Aduro looks great with this bike. Did you use the original Aduro stem spacers?
aahydraa wrote:

Finally finished:
P5-6 Fork
3T Aduro (with beard)
Magura brakes (with fairing)
Dura Ace Di2
P2M
Super 9/808FC



Closeup of the fork and cockpit. No wires, minimal gaps.


From the top.


What the wind sees.

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Nice paint scheme, I like the white accent on the beam!
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Yes, I did. The original spacers allow for smooth aero shape transitions and are necessary to attach the beard fairing.
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Thanks a lot for your reply. I just got my Dimond sent back to me with the updated Superfork! Such a huge improvement in terms of how baddass it looks. I also got the Aduro installed but it didn't come with the spacers. I was told that it wouldn't fit a Dimond frame since it was made specifically for a P5. When I got it built up again, everything was perfect......except for the stem... Looked so out of place... So I made a fairing and it worked out quite nicely. But if I can put on an original spacer, it would tidy things up even more.
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Yes, I did. The original spacers allow for smooth aero shape transitions and are necessary to attach the beard fairing.
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Waiting to see some pics from folks with the new Brilliant frame!
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Here is my new rig just built up by Dimond. It was shipped out today so I should have it early next week. Hed Jet 6+ and Hed Jet Disc+ will replace those wheels. Powertap P1 pedals also going on it. I will take more pics once I get my stuff on it.



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Ironboywonder wrote:
......in 18 months I bet this thread will be renamed: "Remember all those wankers who bought DIMONDs?"....
It is exactly 18 months to the day.

Well?

:p
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......in 18 months I bet this thread will be renamed: "Remember all those wankers who bought DIMONDs?"....
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Remember that wanker who thought Dimonds weren't going to be around 18 months later.

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Here is this "wanker's" Dimond (purchased in November) set up for IMTX on Saturday (its first race). It was not my day, but the bike was fast.
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why ditch the trek?

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Nice paint. I have the new TriRig bars too. Not quite the 'easy to cable, no fishing' experiment they were advertised to be! :)

Still, they look great. Did you get the TriRig extensions?

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why ditch the trek?

'Cuz I wanted a Dimond. No other reason.

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The GMAN wrote:
BBLOEHR wrote:
why ditch the trek?


'Cuz I wanted a Dimond. No other reason.

Any regrets so far? Do you miss the draft box? How is it compared to the SC?

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Bike is being delivered today. So no experience with it yet.

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Courious what your paint scheme cost. Ordered a dimond gloss black red decals inside fork and chain stays red, they wanted 650.00 for the paint change. Seems a little steep but I really do not know.
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Yes, Alpha X with Gamma extensions. I agree that routing was a bit tougher than expected, but the finished product is a very clean front end. I put my battery in the left extension (1x, so shifter is disconnected) and found it is a very tight fit. Inside diameter is smaller than many other extensions.
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I don't remember #, but sounds about right. I agree it seems a bit expensive and I almost skipped it. When I step back and think about how much changing between a bunch of paint colors probably slows down their process, I get it. Once they reach a higher volume, I could see a handful of popular colors and schemes becoming cheaper.
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Yes, Alpha X with Gamma extensions. I agree that routing was a bit tougher than expected, but the finished product is a very clean front end. I put my battery in the left extension (1x, so shifter is disconnected) and found it is a very tight fit. Inside diameter is smaller than many other extensions.

My extensions did not clamp down at all, they had to send me a pair of shims which is a bit dissapointing for a $1,000 bar. They said that the bar is made to fit a larger variety of extensions and some are a bit looser. Why the gamma extensions are not made for their own alpha X bar is anyone's guess. The extensions still rotate with the shins in so maybe I will contact TriRig as they might be faulty. It looks great though! Did you pad the junction box to stop it rattling in the stem?

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Thanks I agree love what you did will do the upgrade
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Yep, I had to get the shims from TriRig as well. The right extension stayed put, but the left still rotated with the shim and 5nm torque on the clamp bolt this weekend. I may try adding a piece of black tape to secure the shim against the extension. I am curious if they will address this with the new batch of extensions.

The junction box (5 port) is actually a tight fit for me, no rattle.
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Should of bought one of these instead of a FELT!
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Thanks to Canyon Custom Air for the paint.


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Shimano Ultegra Di2 groupset
TriRig Alpha X bar/stem, with tilt kit and Gamma extensions
Hed H3 Plus wheelset with Continental GP 4000S II 25mm tires
PowerTap P1 pedals
Specialized Sitero saddle

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How do you like the CeeGees on the Alpha X?
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I like them. Been a Cee Gees fan for years. I never used the stock Alpha pads though. Not the greatest reviews of them and they seemed like they were crap.

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Very nice!

Are you thinking of upgrading to the super fork?

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Thanks!

Probably not unless I come across a good deal in the ST classifieds or something. I currently have HED Jet 6+ wheels (old 23mm brake track) with a powertap in them that I race with a wheel cover. (rear is currently getting re-spoked, these bontragers are a friends).
So I'm looking to get some sort of crank based power and a dedicated set of 25mm race wheels as my next purchase. Keeping my eye on the classifieds for an quarq elsa that fits my needs at a price I can stomach.
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I rode 50 miles a couple of days ago. Basically did this 10 mile rectangle of country roads 5x. I rode by this same set of people a couple of times and finally one of them said "That's the craziest looking bike I have ever seen. What's something like that cost?" Me: "If you have to ask....."

You do get some odd looks riding around on the non-double diamond frames.

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cloy26 wrote:
GO GATORS!

Go 'Cuse. How dare you!

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Bike looks sweet! How much extra stack do those pads add? I need to get some different ones. The stock ones are slippery.
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jet black wrote:
Bike looks sweet! How much extra stack do those pads add? I need to get some different ones. The stock ones are slippery.


I'd say 5-7mm. Maybe twice the height of the stock Alpha pads. The Cee Gees are also a little more squishy so you'll sink into them a little more. So maybe 5mm when all is said and done.

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Does anyone have a crazy high seat post on their dimond?

According to my guru fit, my saddle height over BB is 943mm, I know it's crazy, (I'm 6'10")

Just wondering how ridiculous it would be, even though dimond says they can do it.

I also need a stack around 700+ , I'll never get to where I need to be, so I just try to get as high as I can.
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You are 6' 10" so unlikely many will want as high a seat as you but ...

I have a I have saddle height of 84.2. The seat post does not look very tall at all on a Large. Your saddle height is pretty tall but you are 9" taller than me and saddle height is roughly 3" or so taller .... sounds very feasible. I have long legs to torso.

My pad stack is 72.3cm. I use a TriRig Alpha X with 3cm of aero spacers and 40mm risers. The pads are pretty poor so I will change to CeeGee's and drop 1cm of the stem spacers.

Your drop from saddle to bars would be fairly significant. Mine is 10.5cm. It sounds like you are 10cm higher saddle and 2cm (ish - you didn't state exactly) lower cockpit. This would make your pad drop 22.5cm, pretty huge .... unless you are not using figures for Pad Stack and using just Stack. Which might make more sense.

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Re: show me your DIMOND [JayPeeWhy] [ In reply to ]
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Well, my original pad stack was so high on my fit that we had to re-do it because my fitter couldn't make any bike work.

If you are at 723 on a alpha x, which is the bar I'm leaning towards that makes me think I can make it work.

On my fit I was on a vuka top mount bar, and my pad stack was 730 with a 505 reach, with a 185mm saddle to bars (not pads) drop

The more room I have for that to change the better, as I don't think I was really dialed in that much, my fitter didn't seem to know a whole lot about TT positions. Getting a bike and then doing another fitting on it is really pretty necessary.

I was looking at a dimond someone had at a race this weekend and loved it, the guy had a pretty high saddle, but not nearly high enough for me and it looked a little weird/he said he did feel some flex in it at times.

I feel like no matter what bike i ride I look like an adult on a kids bike, just huge. From a purely vanity point of view, I'd like to find a bike (ride a shiv now) and set up that allows me to look like I have a somewhat average fit. Should have had that guru frame made when I had a chance.
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If the saddle is 10cm taller then there may be some flex but I can't see that being much different on any bike. Dimond can likely make you a solid, or certainly more rigid, seat post. The great thing about them is that they will usually make it happen.

The beam really doesn't flex much at all. I don't notice it and neither do any others (I say any, some people claim to but I am 180lbs so not sure how much they weigh to make it flex) but there is supposed to be a mm or 2 of movement. A good example is that when I ride my road bike now it feels like I always have a flat because I can feel all the bumps come up through the seat post, on the Dimond I don't. That's about the extent of any movement for me. Occasionally if I am being a gorilla uphills I might notice a tiny bit of flex but that might be in my mind. I was actually disappointed that it didn't feel more different to a standard bike at first.

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Do you have some pics of your current bike setup?

Just out of curiosity...

I'm going to try to schedule a demo at ironman NC, hopefully they can me close to a fit that will work for me.
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bujayman wrote:
Do you have some pics of your current bike setup?


Just out of curiosity...

I'm going to try to schedule a demo at ironman NC, hopefully they can me close to a fit that will work for me.



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Oh man... Hope you are recovering well.

I know all about that after being hit in 2012 and spending a month in the hospital and a year recovering.
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bujayman wrote:
According to my guru fit, my saddle height over BB is 943mm, I know it's crazy, (I'm 6'10")

On my fit I was on a vuka top mount bar, and my pad stack was 730 with a 505 reach, with a 185mm saddle to bars (not pads) drop



Based on the TriRig fit chart (attached), it looks you could accomplish your stack and reach on a large with the Alpha X. Especially if you lengthen out a bit. I think your saddle height may be above the Dimond max, but hopefully they could help you figure something out.
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Sweet build!
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Did the Dash fit without issues or did you need the aero/saddle combo from Dash

thx
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Did the Dash fit without issues or did you need the aero/saddle combo from Dash

thx

The rails were a little tight, but it did fit. Worse case I could have shaved off a hair if not.

If I hadn't spent so much on the paint I probably would have gotten the combo.
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IMStillTrying wrote:
Did the Dash fit without issues or did you need the aero/saddle combo from Dash

thx


The rails were a little tight, but it did fit. Worse case I could have shaved off a hair if not.

If I hadn't spent so much on the paint I probably would have gotten the combo.

Saw the paint job on the FB page. I wish I were creative enough to come up with something like that!!
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SBRcoffee wrote:
Will132 wrote:
IMStillTrying wrote:
Did the Dash fit without issues or did you need the aero/saddle combo from Dash

thx


The rails were a little tight, but it did fit. Worse case I could have shaved off a hair if not.

If I hadn't spent so much on the paint I probably would have gotten the combo.

Saw the paint job on the FB page. I wish I were creative enough to come up with something like that!!

Wish I was as well. I had the rough idea and gave it to Canyon at Canyon Custom Air in Glenn Allen,VA. He pulled it off and nailed it.
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wow that looks sick!!!
very impressive.

Did you make the storage box from scratch or modify one currently in production

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What basebar and stem are you using?

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Used an ENVE basebar & 3T stem.
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I made it from scratch.Used hi-impact plastic.
Will post detailed pics next.
Carries my spare essentials, fone & money.
Used a magnet (small roud piece) as my lock.
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Sooooooo.......how much will you be selling those aero frame boxes for??? :)
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Since this is a Dimond related question I figured I'd post it here. Anyone use power on resistance rollers? I use Trainerroad on a kickr but want to ride my Dimond a bit indoors as well, hence my question about rollers with a resistance wheel. My plan is to use P1 pedals to monitor power so I can still work with Trainerroad. Any feedback on this plan?
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alaska848 wrote:
Since this is a Dimond related question I figured I'd post it here. Anyone use power on resistance rollers? I use Trainerroad on a kickr but want to ride my Dimond a bit indoors as well, hence my question about rollers with a resistance wheel. My plan is to use P1 pedals to monitor power so I can still work with Trainerroad. Any feedback on this plan?

When you say 'resistance wheel', I assume you mean either rollers, or one of the omni fork mont roller trainers, since a dimond isn't supposed to mounted into any trainer that holds the rear of the frame, power or not.

To answer your question, tons of people use non-erg trainers (including rollers) to do power based workouts using their crank/pedal power meters. They will transmit your power to the trainer road app. Only difference from a kickr is that it will be up to you to make sure you are pushing the numbers that the workout specifies, as opposed to a kickr that will force you to by adjusting the resistance itself.
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Thanks, Canuck! I should have been more clear. I am looking at using a set of rollers I already have but with a fork mount in lieu of my smart trainer so I can ride my Dimond more, since it can't be put into a standard trainer. I'm curious about the feel of using a resistance roller compared to even a fluid trainer. What I find is that rollers are good for form or warm up but not so for intervals or power based sessions. I'm curious if the resistance changes that and makes it a viable option.
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i have the feedback sports omnium to use with my dimond (and quarq) and I love it. I'm thinking of selling my kickr because I love the omnium so much.

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alaska848 wrote:
Thanks, Canuck! I should have been more clear. I am looking at using a set of rollers I already have but with a fork mount in lieu of my smart trainer so I can ride my Dimond more, since it can't be put into a standard trainer. I'm curious about the feel of using a resistance roller compared to even a fluid trainer. What I find is that rollers are good for form or warm up but not so for intervals or power based sessions. I'm curious if the resistance changes that and makes it a viable option.

I’ve done a lot of TR/Zwift on my Dimond on the InsideRide rollers with the manual resistance control. For sweet spot and higher power intervals, I need to be on resistance setting 2 or I run out of gear, but the ride feel is fine. I use the fork stand ‘cause I have no roller skillz on a tri bike.

That said, I went back to a smart trainer and another bike for indoor sessions because I like erg mode and because I don’t want to corrode my Dimond with all that sweat.

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I have used InsideRide and the Minoura roller that has a similar design to the Omnium. Both provide extremely adequate feel for any type of training. I'm not sure I can recommend the Minoura though, I had trouble with the resistance unit on mine and heard of others that have had trouble as well. Maybe you would have better luck, it's definitely a nice budget option when it is working.

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Thanks to all for the feedback. Bought a resistance roller for my Cycleops set up. Worked well. Glad I did it. Now to find an Omnium for travel...
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