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Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent
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I worked as a volunteer at IM Chattanooga two weekends ago and
signed up for next year's race. During the bike to run transition,
American Pro Barrett Brandon, who ended up 4th overall in the race,
stopped as soon as he entered the change tent and urinated on the floor.
He did so in a location such that every other person in the race, some
2500+ were forced to run through his urine into the change tent. There
were no officials present in the change tent, only volunteers as far as I
could tell.

I understand the Pro Athletes compete for a living, but that does
not make them immune from the rules. As I understand the rules of every
triathlon I have competed in for the past 20 years, when a race provides
restroom facilities and you fail to use those, you are penalized. In
fact there are at least two USAT rules which apply to this situation:

3.3 General Conduct. At or during an event, or while at the event site,
all participants must:
b. Conduct themselves in a manner that is not offensive in any way to
fellow participants, spectators, officials or volunteers and is considered
reasonable and acceptable in the community

and
3.4.1 Endangerment. No participant shall commit any dangerous act which
could cause injury to any participant. Any violation of this Section shall
result in disqualification.

It cannot be said Mr. Brandon?s conduct was acceptable to the community.
Further, contaminating a public area with urine is clearly a dangerous act
which could compromise the health and safety of other entrants and
volunteers alike. Either of these two rules would prohibit Mr. Brandon
from urinating literally in the door of the change tent, especially when
there were port-a-lets within a few feet of the exit from that tent. He
should have been disqualified or at a minimum assessed a time penalty.
IM Chattanooga was wonderfully organized. In fact it would have
taken Mr. Brandon, no more than perhaps 10 additional seconds to use the
facilities provided.

Barrett Brandon was an embarrassment to himself and all of the
volunteers, several of whom who were forced to literally step back to
avoid getting splashed with his urine. I was embarrassed and outraged. I
am not sure if anything can be done to Mr. Brandon at this point. But
this sort of conduct by the Professional athletes or anyone else should
not be tolerated.

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Glad I kept my bike shoes on till I could put my running shoes on! Guess he didnt want to piss on his bike or on his own feet.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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Inappropriate: yes.
Catastrophic: no.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [sp1ke] [ In reply to ]
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I'm going to need some of that.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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Thank God urine is sterile, you could drink it if you had to. Crazy fact for the day, there are greater than 1 million microorganisms in a gram of dirt; if you want a sterile changing environment, ain't gunna happen.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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Glad I was out of there before he was. That is on of the more bizarre things I've heard someone do in a change tent. Especially considering it is pretty empty when we go through. I agree that it is disgusting, inappropriate and whatever other word(s) I could use. I've never had to go that bad I guess...

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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Dirt floor or built floor (hardwood, tile, etc.)?

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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Little odd, never seen someone urinate in a changing tent lol. Doesn't really bother me since I pee on my bike, but would hate to be a volunteer in that tent after that.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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given your outrage surely you confronted him at the door to the tent during his piss-fest. What did you say? What did he say? How was it resolved?

I think it's gross. I don't think it should have happened. But if you're so upset about it, you should have forced him to stop or thrown down towels over the piss puddle so that 2500+ athletes didn't wade through it. Or something at the race rather than wait 2 weeks to complain about it here. I don't understand the point.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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bbryant wrote:
During the bike to run transition,
American Pro Barrett Brandon, who ended up 4th overall in the race,
stopped as soon as he entered the change tent and urinated on the floor.

Did it take him longer that 2min and 19 seconds? He should have peed on the bike and he could have had a shot at Trevor Wurtele in 3rd place. Amateur . . .

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Run For Money] [ In reply to ]
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I am surprised no one said anything to him! If I was volunteering and I saw that (pro or not) I would of said something to him!



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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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There definitely is something that can be done about that by contacting the Head Referee on race day. Sitting in a change tent chair and peeing while you put on your shoes is also not okay.


No volunteer should ever be subject to that. EVER.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [turningscrews] [ In reply to ]
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My wife worked women's changing tent at IMLP in 2011. One of the female race leaders sat down in chair and proceded to urinate. She then said "sorry ladies, this is the life of a pro triathlete". My wife took said chair outside and rinsed it off. But that didn't horrify her, she works in an ER at a level 1 trauma center, but what did?? The tampons....won't go into detail.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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Did he whip it out or just stand there and piss in his kit?
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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This is too bizarre..I'm having a hard time believing this.
You'd think after two weeks, someone else would have said something..

If this ends up being verified as true, Mr Brandon is going to secure himself a spot in ST history.


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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Fat_Ironman] [ In reply to ]
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I did not confront the guy, nor did anyone else....but the more I thought about it the more "pissed" off I became.....its just uncalled for is all.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Fat_Ironman] [ In reply to ]
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Fat_Ironman wrote:
My wife worked women's changing tent at IMLP in 2011. One of the female race leaders sat down in chair and proceded to urinate. She then said "sorry ladies, this is the life of a pro triathlete". My wife took said chair outside and rinsed it off. But that didn't horrify her, she works in an ER at a level 1 trauma center, but what did?? The tampons....won't go into detail.

Dude seriously, right before lunch with this?!?! lol
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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Ass Pennies!
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [turningscrews] [ In reply to ]
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turningscrews wrote:
Thank God urine is sterile, you could drink it if you had to. Crazy fact for the day, there are greater than 1 million microorganisms in a gram of dirt; if you want a sterile changing environment, ain't gunna happen.

Bateria-free, normally; Virus free ... you never know.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [sentania] [ In reply to ]
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Well that explains why the area where I changed shoes smelled like piss. Actually said something out loud about it.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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bbryant wrote:
I am not sure if anything can be done to Mr. Brandon at this point.

Perhaps they could fine him. But, apparently, he doesn't have a pot to piss in.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [turningscrews] [ In reply to ]
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turningscrews wrote:
Thank God urine is sterile, you could drink it if you had to. Crazy fact for the day, there are greater than 1 million microorganisms in a gram of dirt; if you want a sterile changing environment, ain't gunna happen.
Good grief. You must have received your medical degree from dr. google. Urine. Sterile. Lol!

Even the healthiest of people have some bacteria in their urine. There is nothing "sterile" about urine.

The behavior of this "pro" is beyond despicable. It is disgusting. He is an embarrassment to himself and all triathletes.

I am truly sorry that any volunteer or participant had to deal with this guys disgusting behavior.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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While I may agree with your point, how did you respond and what steps did you take? I think it is highly inappropriate to call out a pro athlete several weeks after an event on a public forum IF (you apparently didn't) you did not address it with race officials/the athlete/volunteer captain/other authority first. IF you did none of the above, I unfortunately think your post may be as inappropriate as his conduct.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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better than a #2 big dump I suppose



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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Run For Money] [ In reply to ]
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Run For Money wrote:
Little odd, never seen someone urinate in a changing tent lol. Doesn't really bother me since I pee on my bike, but would hate to be a volunteer in that tent after that.

I can't understand why he wouldn't just wait and piss on the bike or at least do it running out of T1.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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My guess is that since you can get naked and do a dance in the tent, the rule 3.3 likely won't apply. I'm not sure Rule 3.4.1 applies either, else you'd have to hand out penalties for people that spilled a water bottle in the tent.

Whereas I don't condone or even appreciate the dude's behavior, I also don't think that there's a clear rule against it.






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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [david] [ In reply to ]
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Trust me, it happened...I was there also in the tent as a volunteer. To be honest, we were all shocked someone would do this and quite frankly it happened so fast there wasn't a whole lot we could do.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [david] [ In reply to ]
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david wrote:
While I may agree with your point, how did you respond and what steps did you take? I think it is highly inappropriate to call out a pro athlete several weeks after an event on a public forum IF (you apparently didn't) you did not address it with race officials/the athlete/volunteer captain/other authority first. IF you did none of the above, I unfortunately think your post may be as inappropriate as his conduct.
I disagree. Maybe the volunteers were so shocked and incredulous that they did not respond in the moment. And like he said, maybe it just kept grating on them and it built up and they came here to share (vent) about this professionals disgusting behavior. It is such self centered disgusting immature behavior I believe even an eight year old would understand this is unacceptable.

Maybe calling Brandon out on this public forum is a way of altering future behavior. If they sent him a personal letter he would not be publically called out. Maybe in todays society, with certain people this is what it takes.

There is another post where people are basically bashing Andrew Starky for his interview. But it seems like you people here are willing to give Brandon a pass? Make excuses? Laugh it off?
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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He may race as a "pro", but he is no professional.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [jonesylaw] [ In reply to ]
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really...not a rule violation?? Read again 3.3
General Conduct. At or during an event, or while at the event site,
all participants must:
b. Conduct themselves in a manner that is not offensive in any way to
fellow participants, spectators, officials or volunteers and is considered
reasonable and acceptable in the community


peeing in public does not met this definition
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [jonesylaw] [ In reply to ]
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jonesylaw wrote:
really...not a rule violation?? Read again 3.3
General Conduct. At or during an event, or while at the event site,
all participants must:
b. Conduct themselves in a manner that is not offensive in any way to
fellow participants, spectators, officials or volunteers and is considered
reasonable and acceptable in the community


peeing in public does not met this definition
Exactly. There have been Hollywood actors and rock stars who have been cited and or arrested for urinating in an airplane cabin.
It is a violation and of public decency laws at a minimum. But beyond this it seems there should be some type of code for these "professional triathletes" that they have to conduct themselves in a decent way. They should at least not offend the volunteers who are present to assist them.
Brandon should offer an apology at the very minimum.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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I have to facepalm at the idea that we are wondering if pissing on the floor of the changing tent MAY NOT be against the rules. Holy hell. This is why we have hand holding for every single thing in our country now.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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I think some slack should be cut in this instance. He is racing and his brain is red-lined, it's not like he is making a rational cost-benefit decision to offend people. Gosh, I've pooped on the side of a trail a few times during races, which is gross and horrible, but it made sense at the time. He should not be treated as a bad person or unprofessional unless you know there was intent to offend.

Part of me thinks being willing to piss in front of strangers is the definition of professional in the long-course triathlon world.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [DaveRoche] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry but I don't buy it. Not willing to give a pass on this. Going to the bathroom on the side of a trail is not the same as going in a changing tent. If the difference here has to be explained then I give up.
If his brain is too red-lined to control his bodily functions in this manner then maybe he needs to find a new profession.
And I don't know if he is a "bad person." But I would say in this instance he showed very bad judgment, a lack of discernment, and a very self-centered, immature, embarrassing way of conducting himself in his chosen "profession,"
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [DaveRoche] [ In reply to ]
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The OP hasn't answered my question whether this was a dirt or grass floor. If so, then I'd say the argument is unreasonable.

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Ty wrote:

There is another post where people are basically bashing Andrew Starky for his interview. But it seems like you people here are willing to give Brandon a pass? Make excuses? Laugh it off?

I laughed off Starky's interview.

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david wrote:
While I may agree with your point, how did you respond and what steps did you take? I think it is highly inappropriate to call out a pro athlete several weeks after an event on a public forum IF (you apparently didn't) you did not address it with race officials/the athlete/volunteer captain/other authority first. IF you did none of the above, I unfortunately think your post may be as inappropriate as his conduct.

I did nothing on race day, there were no officials in the change tent when this happened and Mr. Brandon was gone, literally as soon as he stopped pissing. It was a fast transition, for him I will admit. When I returned from Chattanooga the next day attempted but was unable to actually locate a contact for the race director or race official. I then contacted the head official at USAT, that is where I received the rules cited in my original post. I then emailed the WTC "Athlete Services" contact, asked for the actual Chattanooga race director contact info and received a reply stating they would forward my email on to the Race Director. Eventually, the Race Director contacted me today. He apologized for the conduct of Mr. Brandon, and indicated he would look into what if anything could be done. I understand there may be nothing that can be done after fact......

I have been doing this stuff for 20 years or more and never saw anything like this. And why on earth would I not call out a Pro or any other person who pisses on the ground that others have paid good money, sweat and effort to get to? Seriously???

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Timtek] [ In reply to ]
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Timtek wrote:
The OP hasn't answered my question whether this was a dirt or grass floor. If so, then I'd say the argument is unreasonable.

Could this be the return of Surfing Lamb?????
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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You have obviously spent way too much time worrying about this bb. As I always say, "If you ain't cheaten, you ain't racin."
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Timtek wrote:
The OP hasn't answered my question whether this was a dirt or grass floor. If so, then I'd say the argument is unreasonable.

the entire transition area was on pavement......

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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as the moderator of this site, what we have are 2 eyewitnesses, 1 a new member of the forum as of today, the other NOT a new member, but a seasoned veteran of triathlon, and in his first post since joining up on the slowtwitch forum in 2007. the OP is an august member of the legal community so i take it that he's absolutely impeachable in his version of the story.

that said, because the two eyewitnesses really are only participating on the forum today to flush a toiled on the head of a third party (so to speak) this comes perilously close to our own forum rule (since we're quoting rules): FAQ(4): We are especially cranky about trial-by-internet.

on the other side, we have what could be a pretty serious indictment on the behavior of a competitor.

i do think we are owed the FULL explanation, that is, what you did. what steps you took. because of what you do for a living, you are not intimidated, you are not a wallflower, you are a seasoned decision maker, and you make hard, unpopular decisions. so you were not suffering from post traumatic change tent disorder. i must assume this is not your first act after having recovered from the shock.

mind, i'm not taking a side. i'm just going to look at this dispassionately, as would a judge. which i think you can appreciate. can you just give us the whole story, from your perspective, on how things got from the change tent to where we are today?


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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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Come on, bbryant is a VOLUNTEER at the event. He is NOT a race official and it is wrong to "reprimand" him for not intervening against this pro. Him pointing out this activity, even a week or so after the fact, is a good idea. Maybe if others know they will be "outed" then they can think twice before pissing in the changing tent...a common facility shared byover 1000 other athletes.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [teamjackass] [ In reply to ]
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teamjackass wrote:
You have obviously spent way too much time worrying about this bb. As I always say, "If you ain't cheaten, you ain't racin."

I agree that I am maybe a bit obsessed by this whole deal.....but cheatin and pissing on people are two different things my friend.

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I did nothing on race day, there were no officials in the change tent when this happened and Mr. Brandon was gone, literally as soon as he stopped pissing. It was a fast transition, for him I will admit. When I returned from Chattanooga the next day attempted but was unable to actually locate a contact for the race director or race official. I then contacted the head official at USAT, that is where I received the rules cited in my original post. I then emailed the WTC "Athlete Services" contact, asked for the actual Chattanooga race director contact info and received a reply stating they would forward my email on to the Race Director. Eventually, the Race Director contacted me today. He apologized for the conduct of Mr. Brandon, and indicated he would look into what if anything could be done. I understand there may be nothing that can be done after fact......

I have been doing this stuff for 20 years or more and never saw anything like this. And why on earth would I not call out a Pro or any other person who pisses on the ground that others have paid good money, sweat and effort to get to? Seriously???

So you have been doing this for 20 years and know right from wrong but for some reason could not find an official at that moment? Poke your head outside the tent. They were there.

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TriBrad02 wrote:
bbryant wrote:


I did nothing on race day, there were no officials in the change tent when this happened and Mr. Brandon was gone, literally as soon as he stopped pissing. It was a fast transition, for him I will admit. When I returned from Chattanooga the next day attempted but was unable to actually locate a contact for the race director or race official. I then contacted the head official at USAT, that is where I received the rules cited in my original post. I then emailed the WTC "Athlete Services" contact, asked for the actual Chattanooga race director contact info and received a reply stating they would forward my email on to the Race Director. Eventually, the Race Director contacted me today. He apologized for the conduct of Mr. Brandon, and indicated he would look into what if anything could be done. I understand there may be nothing that can be done after fact......

I have been doing this stuff for 20 years or more and never saw anything like this. And why on earth would I not call out a Pro or any other person who pisses on the ground that others have paid good money, sweat and effort to get to? Seriously???


So you have been doing this for 20 years and know right from wrong but for some reason could not find an official at that moment? Poke your head outside the tent. They were there.

TriBrad, I was just outside the tent, Brandon stopped in the doorway and pissed, literally no way anyone else could enter with out running through his urine. there were no Race Officials standing there.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYkrjjTkjdk

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reminds me of the time i watched a pro stop in the middle of the run course at a Rev3 event to whip it out and relieve himself..... was a pretty secluded path with one way traffic so it was kind of hard to tell what he was doing until you were already up on him. i gave him a lot of room when I went by.
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bbryant wrote:

TriBrad, I was just outside the tent, Brandon stopped in the doorway and pissed, literally no way anyone else could enter with out running through his urine. there were no Race Officials standing there.

If you say there was no way you could have gotten in touch with an official at this time, so be it.

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Imagine the mental boost you would get knowing that every single other person who came out of the water after you walked barefooted through your pee. It's better than ass pennies. I'm going to do this at my next IM.
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BDoughtie wrote:
I have to facepalm at the idea that we are wondering if pissing on the floor of the changing tent MAY NOT be against the rules. Holy hell. This is why we have hand holding for every single thing in our country now.

lol This


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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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Hey, I have never posted on slowtwitch before, although I read the forum fairly regularly, so in the interest of full disclosure, my name is Barry Bryant, I use my salary as U.S. Magistrate Judge to support my triathlon habit. Several members of my local club volunteered at Chattanooga and worked the Men's Change Tent in order to be able to sign up for next year.

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BDoughtie wrote:
I have to facepalm at the idea that we are wondering if pissing on the floor of the changing tent MAY NOT be against the rules. Holy hell. This is why we have hand holding for every single thing in our country now.

While agree with the sentiment and wording if it was outside the tent then my shoes would have been already on and I am sure I have stepped in piss before in shoes on Bourbon Street, bar bathrooms, and pretty much every gas station bathroom I have ever been in so not that big of a deal.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [david] [ In reply to ]
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david wrote:
While I may agree with your point, how did you respond and what steps did you take? I think it is highly inappropriate to call out a pro athlete several weeks after an event on a public forum IF (you apparently didn't) you did not address it with race officials/the athlete/volunteer captain/other authority first. IF you did none of the above, I unfortunately think your post may be as inappropriate as his conduct.

So, you think the statute of limitations for pissing on the changing tent floor is less than a month?! Assuming this happened, it is so disgusting that a public reprimand is hardly sufficient punishment.
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bbryant wrote:
Hey, I have never posted on slowtwitch before, although I read the forum fairly regularly, so in the interest of full disclosure, my name is Barry Bryant, I use my salary as U.S. Magistrate Judge to support my triathlon habit. Several members of my local club volunteered at Chattanooga and worked the Men's Change Tent in order to be able to sign up for next year.

Just make sure you don't do anything on here like this guy!

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [jjabr] [ In reply to ]
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It's probably urban legend but way back in the day, swimmers could false start and not get DQ'd (not sure how far back that happened). Legend was, swimmers would swim back in next guys lane, get out and tell the dude he just pissed in his lane. I'm going to steal a Starky commentary, but the mental gymnastics must have been fun to watch.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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Having only raced IMLP a couple times, I am not an IM veteran. But this thread seems to imply that there is not a urinal in the changing tent at all IMs. Is this true about IMCHOO or did he just decide that the latrine was to far away?
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You have obviously spent way too much time worrying about this bb. As I always say, "If you ain't cheaten, you ain't racin."
Wrong. So you believe we should just let it go. When you state that he "spent way too much time worrying about this" you are attempting to dismiss his valid complaint and make it as if he is making a big deal out of a small infraction.

Some of us chose to live in a society where we do have some rules. Of. Decency. Civility. And. Yes. Even in a triathlon. Even in the heat of competition.

It is not like he did not have control of his bodily functions. That is completely different. We can all recall the various endurance events when control was lost by a competitor. This is an accident. An embarrassing accident.

Brandon's urinating upon arriving at the changing tent was not. It was a rude, embarrassing disgusting act of self-centeredness.
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In case any of us need to take this discussion to the twitter let's all use the hashtag #pissgate for code. lol

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [ffmedic84] [ In reply to ]
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Run For Money wrote:
Little odd, never seen someone urinate in a changing tent lol. Doesn't really bother me since I pee on my bike, but would hate to be a volunteer in that tent after that.


I can't understand why he wouldn't just wait and piss on the bike or at least do it running out of T1.


I guess it sounds like he pissed in the tent during T2; but totally agree, go on the bike, or worse case go while you are running..
EDIT: He should have gotten a yellow card (no pun intended) Urinating from the bike or in transition zones


Continue with piss-gate
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [DaveRoche] [ In reply to ]
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Gosh, I've pooped on the side of a trail a few times during races, which is gross and horrible, but it made sense at the time.

I gotta ask: was the race distance too far to risk sacrificing a sock? Can't remember how many times I've finished a 15+ miler in the woods/country with only one sock on.
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GEORGE: I was there! I saw a drain!
ELAINE: Since when is a drain a toilet?!
GEORGE: It's all pipes! What's the difference?!
ELAINE: Different pipes go to different places! You're gonna mix 'em up!
GEORGE: I'll call a plumber right now! <Goes for the phone.
JERRY: Alright, can we just drop all the pee-pipe stuff here?
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [sentania] [ In reply to ]
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Ass Pennies!

"I never had to walk through *their* piss, it gives me a little edge."
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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I did not confront the guy, nor did anyone else....but the more I thought about it the more "pissed" off I became.....its just uncalled for is all.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Ty] [ In reply to ]
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Ty wrote:
turningscrews wrote:
Thank God urine is sterile, you could drink it if you had to. Crazy fact for the day, there are greater than 1 million microorganisms in a gram of dirt; if you want a sterile changing environment, ain't gunna happen.

Good grief. You must have received your medical degree from dr. google. Urine. Sterile. Lol!

Even the healthiest of people have some bacteria in their urine. There is nothing "sterile" about urine.

Wrong again...the urine in your bladder is indeed sterile unless you have a UTI. You rinse the epithelia of your urethra when you urinate (that's a basic concept with regards to the innate immune system creating a barrier to infection if you have ever taken an immunology course), which would contribute to bacteria in the urine of an individual that does not have a UTI. That's why a mid-stream catch must be performed to properly diagnose a UTI by measuring bacteria in the urine.

If you want to play this game because you are an internet bully, go right ahead.
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Hey, I have never posted on slowtwitch before, although I read the forum fairly regularly, so in the interest of full disclosure, my name is XXXXXXXX, I use my salary as XXXXXXXXXXX to support my triathlon habit. Several members of my local club volunteered at Chattanooga and worked the Men's Change Tent in order to be able to sign up for next year.

Seriously buddy, that was not your smartest move. Judge or not. I would never have given out that much information. You might want to try to delete and censor as I have done when quoting you. Maybe PM slowman and try to get that deleted. Soon. Next time just say something like "I'm in a legal profession". I'm in a legal type profession and I never say what it is specifically because the internet and forums can burn you if you're not careful.
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Couple things. When I ran into transition (in my socks) at IMCHOO I was hopping and skipping over and around puddles to find a chair that had no fluid on it and a safe place to set my bag down. I'm not a huge fan of other peoples body fluids but it is a race and some people when they get off their bike after 5 hours they may not be able to hold it. I like it when they have the portable urinals in the tents, except the one time I dropped my nutrition bag in it (I thought for 1 sec should I grab it :)). The other thing about IMCHOO was it was an asphalt floor so it allowed the fluids to remain pooled.

Peeing on purpose in change tent: Totally Unacceptable.
Unable to control peeing: It happens.

FYI I Pee'd in the Honey Bucket and it took 11 seconds if you really care.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [MapleSyrupFast] [ In reply to ]
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Well the pro is aware of this thread....someone tweeted him a heads up and he replied with a "thanks for the heads up", so perhaps we will get the other side of the story as well.

I was initially alarmed when I saw the judge post his name and position, but then realized it really isnt that big of a deal. At some point, one of the ST sleuths would have figured it out anyway.

Bbryant: Did he just run in and whip it out and start peeing on the ground? Did he at least try to get out of the way, off to the side?? I don't care how redlined you are...I am pretty sure he would have been DQd had that been seen by an official....at least he should have been.
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teamjackass wrote:
You have obviously spent way too much time worrying about this bb. As I always say, "If you ain't cheaten, you ain't racin."

Your 1st post is also the dumbest one I've read today. Congrats.
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Is peeing while on the bike a rules violation? Just curious



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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [ffmedic84] [ In reply to ]
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teamjackass wrote:
You have obviously spent way too much time worrying about this bb. As I always say, "If you ain't cheaten, you ain't racin."


Your 1st post is also the dumbest one I've read today. Congrats.

but it's perfectly fitting for his/her username, no?
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I see no problem whatsoever with the identifying information; it adds a tremendous amount of credibility to the description of an event that calls out for public shaming. How exactly will he be "burned" by demanding that professional triathletes adhere to minimal standards of decency? Plus, I'm a litigator and have quite a bit of experience appearing before U.S. magistrate judges; whatever negative statements may be made in this thread are really nothing compared to what he likely deals with on a daily basis.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [runnerwv] [ In reply to ]
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I see a number of people that are bent out of shape about the prospect of stepping in someone else's urine, but not a single mention of swimming - face first - through a warm, buoyant current of swim-start urine. Is diluted urine splashing across your face truly less outrageous than potential urine underfoot?

Priorities, people! It's time we ban swim-start urination.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [burnman] [ In reply to ]
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I think its much more than just the possibility of stepping in someone's piss.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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I volunteered in the women's tent. I lost count of the number of women who sat down and urinated in the chairs. At a few were FOP's and had some accidental urine leakage due to childbirth/pelvic floor issues. Most were apologetic. One had accidental leakage and then asked if she could finish peeing. The rest just sat down and peed--a lot (as in a lot of women and a lot of urine). One women peed and then spent forever in transition changing and then talking to friends afterwards.. The accidental pees I get, but the intentional peeing when the port-a-potties were right outside of transition I don't understand.
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Ty wrote:
turningscrews wrote:
Thank God urine is sterile, you could drink it if you had to. Crazy fact for the day, there are greater than 1 million microorganisms in a gram of dirt; if you want a sterile changing environment, ain't gunna happen.

Good grief. You must have received your medical degree from dr. google. Urine. Sterile. Lol!

Even the healthiest of people have some bacteria in their urine. There is nothing "sterile" about urine.


Wrong again...the urine in your bladder is indeed sterile unless you have a UTI. You rinse the epithelia of your urethra when you urinate (that's a basic concept with regards to the innate immune system creating a barrier to infection if you have ever taken an immunology course), which would contribute to bacteria in the urine of an individual that does not have a UTI. That's why a mid-stream catch must be performed to properly diagnose a UTI by measuring bacteria in the urine.

If you want to play this game because you are an internet bully, go right ahead.

Internet bully lol. Because I dare to dispute your incorrect medical information? Surely you have a thicker skin than this? Better check your research and if that is what you consider bullying then so be it. Oh evidence based: pretty common knowledge that urine is not sterile. Yes, you can google it. But here you go:https://www.sciencenews.org/...and-neither-rest-you
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also...in the spirit of full disclosure, I work with the OP B Bryant. We had about dozen guys from our hometown in the mens change tent, (we all signed up for IM Choo 2015 on Monday) . Probably half of us witnessed the event and in fact one our guys did the best he could to wash the urine down with water.
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bbryant wrote:
Hey, I have never posted on slowtwitch before, although I read the forum fairly regularly, so in the interest of full disclosure, my name is XXXXXXXX, I use my salary as XXXXXXXXXXX to support my triathlon habit. Several members of my local club volunteered at Chattanooga and worked the Men's Change Tent in order to be able to sign up for next year.


Seriously buddy, that was not your smartest move. Judge or not. I would never have given out that much information. You might want to try to delete and censor as I have done when quoting you. Maybe PM slowman and try to get that deleted. Soon. Next time just say something like "I'm in a legal profession". I'm in a legal type profession and I never say what it is specifically because the internet and forums can burn you if you're not careful.

Slowman asked me to give some identifying information as I was a first time poster and I had made a specific allegation against a specific person, its only fair, and I agree, don't be a p*ssy and hide behind anonymity, .....so I did.

bb
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bbryant wrote:
MapleSyrupFast wrote:
bbryant wrote:
Hey, I have never posted on slowtwitch before, although I read the forum fairly regularly, so in the interest of full disclosure, my name is XXXXXXXX, I use my salary as XXXXXXXXXXX to support my triathlon habit. Several members of my local club volunteered at Chattanooga and worked the Men's Change Tent in order to be able to sign up for next year.


Seriously buddy, that was not your smartest move. Judge or not. I would never have given out that much information. You might want to try to delete and censor as I have done when quoting you. Maybe PM slowman and try to get that deleted. Soon. Next time just say something like "I'm in a legal profession". I'm in a legal type profession and I never say what it is specifically because the internet and forums can burn you if you're not careful.


Slowman asked me to give some identifying information as I was a first time poster and I had made a specific allegation against a specific person, its only fair, and I agree, don't be a p*ssy and hide behind anonymity, .....so I did.

Totally agree. However, you will undoubtedly upset some STer's who would prefer you hide behind a username so they can tirelessy search the internet and out who you are. Beat them to the punch...nice.
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I see no problem whatsoever with the identifying information; it adds a tremendous amount of credibility to the description of an event that calls out for public shaming. How exactly will he be "burned" by demanding that professional triathletes adhere to minimal standards of decency? Plus, I'm a litigator and have quite a bit of experience appearing before U.S. magistrate judges; whatever negative statements may be made in this thread are really nothing compared to what he likely deals with on a daily basis.


Stay calm...I have no issue with anything he said other than using his real name and position. I'm also not the only one that had that feeling. So your question to me is null and void.

You're also probably on FBook right? Use your real name there too? How about Linkedin? Just checking. Get my drift?
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I prefer to think of it as voidable:)
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Fat_Ironman] [ In reply to ]
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My wife worked women's changing tent at IMLP in 2011. One of the female race leaders sat down in chair and proceded to urinate. She then said "sorry ladies, this is the life of a pro triathlete". My wife took said chair outside and rinsed it off. But that didn't horrify her, she works in an ER at a level 1 trauma center, but what did?? The tampons....won't go into detail.

Seriously, I don't get the big deal. I was in the women's changing tent at Chattanooga and we had several pee incidents and...yea, we don't need to go into details with the tampons. We had some baby wipes, so we cleaned stuff up and moved on.
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I prefer to think of it as voidable:)

uh oh, this thread is going downhill fast as the lawyers are now playing legalese jokes...
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [flowersofmoss] [ In reply to ]
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I don't think it's the actual pee that's the *problem.* I think it's the way that it took place.

Personally, I wouldn't bat an eye at someone peeing on the swim, bike, run, or in transition... however I would think it was odd if they just stopped and whipped it out, went and then continued on their way. Just because it's an odd scenario at a tri. (I expect pro's to pee themselves on the move.)

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AmyCO wrote:
I see no problem whatsoever with the identifying information; it adds a tremendous amount of credibility to the description of an event that calls out for public shaming. How exactly will he be "burned" by demanding that professional triathletes adhere to minimal standards of decency? Plus, I'm a litigator and have quite a bit of experience appearing before U.S. magistrate judges; whatever negative statements may be made in this thread are really nothing compared to what he likely deals with on a daily basis.


Stay calm...I have no issue with anything he said other than using his real name and position. I'm also not the only one that had that feeling. So your question to me is null and void.

You're also probably on FBook right? Use your real name there too? How about Linkedin? Just checking. Get my drift?

Judging from a quick google search of Barry, he's in an appointed position with likely zero accountability to anyone. I think he'll be just fine.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [leegoocrap] [ In reply to ]
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Isn't the problem not that he or one person did it but if it is deemed OK and there is no penalty then everyone will do it? I can't begin to imagine how the hell you'll get volunteers for a changing tent if everyone that came in pee'd or even 200-300 say did. Sure in swim, bike or run that's a little different as it is spread across 140.6 miles.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [jjabr] [ In reply to ]
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/arkansas-judge-fired-leaking-charlize-theron-adoption-details-n201391


From a previous poster. All the more reason not to give his identifying information. He could have Pm'd the admin or something. Either way, it's his issue I suppose.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [DaveRoche] [ In reply to ]
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I think some slack should be cut in this instance. He is racing and his brain is red-lined.

A pro that trains on average 20+ ours a week, 5-1/2 hours into a race, performed at a upper zone 2 intensity is redlined? Really?

I know I had a pretty clear mind as I pissed on the bike around mile 108 in my IM. Talking to others later... the same downhill was a common place to "relax" near the end of the ride.

That being said... given the nature of the pace line the pro's were in, peeing on the bike might have been a little challenging without falling back to the end of the line.


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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [turningscrews] [ In reply to ]
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turningscrews wrote:
Ty wrote:
turningscrews wrote:
Thank God urine is sterile, you could drink it if you had to. Crazy fact for the day, there are greater than 1 million microorganisms in a gram of dirt; if you want a sterile changing environment, ain't gunna happen.

Good grief. You must have received your medical degree from dr. google. Urine. Sterile. Lol!

Even the healthiest of people have some bacteria in their urine. There is nothing "sterile" about urine.


Wrong again...the urine in your bladder is indeed sterile unless you have a UTI. You rinse the epithelia of your urethra when you urinate (that's a basic concept with regards to the innate immune system creating a barrier to infection if you have ever taken an immunology course), which would contribute to bacteria in the urine of an individual that does not have a UTI. That's why a mid-stream catch must be performed to properly diagnose a UTI by measuring bacteria in the urine.

If you want to play this game because you are an internet bully, go right ahead.

I'm just going to leave this right here.

Urine is not sterile


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jjabr wrote:
MapleSyrupFast wrote:
AmyCO wrote:
I see no problem whatsoever with the identifying information; it adds a tremendous amount of credibility to the description of an event that calls out for public shaming. How exactly will he be "burned" by demanding that professional triathletes adhere to minimal standards of decency? Plus, I'm a litigator and have quite a bit of experience appearing before U.S. magistrate judges; whatever negative statements may be made in this thread are really nothing compared to what he likely deals with on a daily basis.


Stay calm...I have no issue with anything he said other than using his real name and position. I'm also not the only one that had that feeling. So your question to me is null and void.

You're also probably on FBook right? Use your real name there too? How about Linkedin? Just checking. Get my drift?


Judging from a quick google search of Barry, he's in an appointed position with likely zero accountability to anyone. I think he'll be just fine.

Magistrate judges are not article III and serve by appointment of the court within which they sit.
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Thank God urine is sterile, you could drink it if you had to. Crazy fact for the day, there are greater than 1 million microorganisms in a gram of dirt; if you want a sterile changing environment, ain't gunna happen.

Not true. Urine is a biohazard and is treated as such in any medical facility.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [AdventureRun] [ In reply to ]
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While spectating IM Wisconsin a couple years ago, I (and dozens of spectators and participants) witnessed an age grouper piss himslelf while walking out of Monona Terrace outside T2. All around him were porta loos - he could have walked a few steps and finished up in one of them. It was embarrasing to watch. I'm sure some of the athletes walked through it and it was done in the open, not behind the closed doors of a transition area.

IMO both guys should get some sort of warning or be talked to (a yellow card, like someone mentioned before). I don't think they should be fined, suspended, or disqualified. Its such a grueling race, their bodies are being tested to the limits, and these kind of things sometimes happen.
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I agree with you about it being wrong to urinate in the changing tent, but there are cultures where such activity is a bit less of a taboo than it is here in the US:


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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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Reminds me of the T2 tent at Lake Placid in 2011 - the very hot year when wet suits were not allowed. The temps in the tent were sweltering and the team captain was pleading for all volunteers to wear gloves. Most were thinking it over because of the temps and how uncomfortable it would be. One of the first pros off the bike flew into the tent, sat down, pissed on the chair while changing, and was out of the tent in a matter of seconds.

Two things: 1) every volunteer immediately decided to wear gloves as we all witnessed the event. 2) None of the group (nearly all athletes working to register the next year) thought that behavior was odd in any way. Isn't that part of the WTC experience to provide a private gender-specific change tent? I'd hardly call that a public space - not like I could just waltz into the women's change tent and volunteer there. Plus, he is a pro - and I think most were OK at giving him a pass as this is his living and, for him, time really does matter.

I smiled at the innocence of the comment that no volunteer should have to work in such conditions - I guess you haven't considered T2 of an Ironman event before. Handling the shoes, socks, and bike pants of a few hundred racers who had recently pissed themselves multiple times is a rather humbling manner to earn your place in line to pay for next year's race ticket.
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AdventureRun wrote:
turningscrews wrote:
Ty wrote:
turningscrews wrote:
Thank God urine is sterile, you could drink it if you had to. Crazy fact for the day, there are greater than 1 million microorganisms in a gram of dirt; if you want a sterile changing environment, ain't gunna happen.

Good grief. You must have received your medical degree from dr. google. Urine. Sterile. Lol!

Even the healthiest of people have some bacteria in their urine. There is nothing "sterile" about urine.


Wrong again...the urine in your bladder is indeed sterile unless you have a UTI. You rinse the epithelia of your urethra when you urinate (that's a basic concept with regards to the innate immune system creating a barrier to infection if you have ever taken an immunology course), which would contribute to bacteria in the urine of an individual that does not have a UTI. That's why a mid-stream catch must be performed to properly diagnose a UTI by measuring bacteria in the urine.

If you want to play this game because you are an internet bully, go right ahead.


I'm just going to leave this right here.

Urine is not sterile

FWIM... The study also showed that the levels are very low and bacteria has been found in many other human tissues at similar levels. So human are not at all sterile on the inside, anywhere. So maybe more accurately, urine is probably comparably or still has significantly lower bacteria levels than "clean" drinking water.


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I always laugh when I hear people wanting to sign up for wetsuit stripper. We call it the 1:20 min golden shower.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [leegoocrap] [ In reply to ]
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Reminds me of one of the lines from Demetri Martin - 'jokes with a guitar' (a great 14 mins spent on youtube).

"There is a small but important difference between peeing in the pool & peeing into the pool"
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And, it took less than three pages for ST to start turning on itself like a pack of dogs with one bone, and attacking the OP. Well played.

Oh, and urine isn't sterile. At any time.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [MattAune] [ In reply to ]
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There were port-a-johns just a few steps outside of the changing tents. He would have had to have been blind to not know they were there since he would've already run past them once leaving the tent from the swim to bike. No excuse to pee in the changing tent. Disgusting and disrespectful.
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I raced IM Chatt and the only volunteers that I saw in the changing tents were standing at the exit taking gear bags from racers and throwing them in a pile. I didn't see any of them actually assisting with changing of clothes etc. There may have been, I just didn't see any doing that when I was in the tent. And I don't blame them for not getting involved if people were urinating in there.

And I pissed in the port o potty just outside the exit of the tent.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe I am just a gross person, but I don't think is such a big deal. Deserving of a penalty for sure, but not dangerous or horrifying. Half the people in the race pee all over themselves, so running through some urine/dirt ain't no biggie.

Again I could just have a high threshold for gross, I think my wife thinks so.

Perhaps as a delayed penalty, WTC would allow you to pee on this dude while the volunteers cheer you on.

BTW, thanks for volunteering, IM's get the greatest volunteers.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [jjh] [ In reply to ]
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So you wouldn't have any issue if all the competitors took a piss in the changing tents if they chose to do so? Just seeing how gross you are :)
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During pro meetings, it as been mention a few times in the last few years that peeing in the change tent is a DQ. I think it s a good rule and unless you have a accident and very apologetic about it, it s a easy DQ call.

now, with no official around....it s a little more complicated. Perhaps the pro will come here and clarify everything

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [sweathog] [ In reply to ]
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Its not innocence. I've got years and years of volunteer, racing and RD experience. I'm fully aware of the nature of the sport and where those sponges they hand out on the run course have likely been.....it's not pretty.

But we aren't talking about a volunteer handling a bike for an athlete , or one picking up gear for racers where they have the option of doing so with gloves - that's why they wear the gloves. Sitting in a chair and covering it with urine, covering the ground with a puddle of it that other people must now use is unacceptable and completely, utterly unnecessary. I was there in Chattanooga, Portolets were right there by the tents. A FEW STEPS AWAY.

Those pros coming in from the bike have 112 miles to urinate themselves on the bike. Doing it in T2 is 100% a voluntary choice. A bad one. Volunteers are captive in the area for hours. Asking racers to use the proper facilities conveniently located is a minimum consideration for the staff, volunteers and other racers.
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jonnyo wrote:
Perhaps the pro will come here and clarify everything

But that might detract from the fascinating "is urine sterile?" debate!
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There were port-a-johns just a few steps outside of the changing tents. He would have had to have been blind to not know they were there since he would've already run past them once leaving the tent from the swim to bike. No excuse to pee in the changing tent. Disgusting and disrespectful.

Not so true. On the swim in to bike you went right out of the back of the tent. So unless you looked left you would not have known their location. I did not know until I ran out of T2. However I assumed they would be there and they were and plenty of them.
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They were on both sides of transition. On your left just outside mens changing tent and then as you circled behind the ladies tent there was another row on that side as well. No reason to miss both rows.
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I love the logic here. It is ok for all 100 swimmers to pee in the pool (according to countless ST threads). Where you slosh around in it, get it in your mouth, eyes, nose and swallow some. But one guy pees on the ground where it sinks into the soil and 3/4 of the STers think that is just gross that they have to run over it.
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No soil. Asphalt.
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Reminds me of the T2 tent at Lake Placid in 2011 - the very hot year when wet suits were not allowed. The temps in the tent were sweltering and the team captain was pleading for all volunteers to wear gloves. Most were thinking it over because of the temps and how uncomfortable it would be. One of the first pros off the bike flew into the tent, sat down, pissed on the chair while changing, and was out of the tent in a matter of seconds.

Two things: 1) every volunteer immediately decided to wear gloves as we all witnessed the event. 2) None of the group (nearly all athletes working to register the next year) thought that behavior was odd in any way. Isn't that part of the WTC experience to provide a private gender-specific change tent? I'd hardly call that a public space - not like I could just waltz into the women's change tent and volunteer there. Plus, he is a pro - and I think most were OK at giving him a pass as this is his living and, for him, time really does matter.

I smiled at the innocence of the comment that no volunteer should have to work in such conditions - I guess you haven't considered T2 of an Ironman event before. Handling the shoes, socks, and bike pants of a few hundred racers who had recently pissed themselves multiple times is a rather humbling manner to earn your place in line to pay for next year's race ticket.

Sweathog, I have worked several IM Change Tents, and completed several IM races.....I volunteer knowing I will be asked to help athletes with the clothes they change from and to. some come in an are in actual physical distress, these folks deserve a pass on problems they might have. This was not that, Mr. Brandon was having and did have a great race it appeared to me, he was just disrespectful of folks there to help him. I do not volunteer to be splashed with urine or forced to walk around in it. As others have pointed out IM Chattnooga was extremely well organized, there were port-a-potties all around the transition area as well as on the course headed out to both run and ride portions.... So no innocence here, I just don't approve and think the conduct should be regulated and penalized. And no, a Pro does not need nor does he deserve a pass on violating the rules, with out the volunteers and the AGers who support these races all over the world, there would be no Pro Race....anywhere.

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I agree with you about it being wrong to urinate in the changing tent, but there are cultures where such activity is a bit less of a taboo than it is here in the US:

This is not the same thing as urinating in a changing tent. These guys had the decency to pull of to the side of the road. They are not exposing themselves, inconveniencing others, putting others at risk etc. etc. etc.
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It was clarified earlier it was concrete, not soil. But your point still stands.

I enjoy running things past my wife as a sort of litmus test. I told her this story, and her response: "He just pissed like a dog, right in front of everybody? Why did you choose the most disgusting hobby possible?"

I still don't think it was clarified if he actually whipped it out, or just stood there and pissed in his tri shorts in a somewhat obvious way.
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So where do we draw the line - is it cool if athletes just piss all over the volunteers? I mean what is the big deal?
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turningscrews wrote:
Thank God urine is sterile, you could drink it if you had to. Crazy fact for the day, there are greater than 1 million microorganisms in a gram of dirt; if you want a sterile changing environment, ain't gunna happen.


Not true. Urine is a biohazard and is treated as such in any medical facility.

Really, the human body is not sterile. lol. Don't know how someone could believe this but this is actually besides the point.
The point is that this pro exhibited rude, inconsiderate, unsafe and immature behavior and I believe he should be held accountable.
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It was clarified earlier it was concrete, not soil. But your point still stands.

I enjoy running things past my wife as a sort of litmus test. I told her this story, and her response: "He just pissed like a dog, right in front of everybody? Why did you choose the most disgusting hobby possible?"

I still don't think it was clarified if he actually whipped it out, or just stood there and pissed in his tri shorts in a somewhat obvious way.

He did not "whip it out" he stopped in the door of the change tent, spread his feet out a little and urinated. at first I didn't even know what he was doing, thought he might be having some problem....it quickly became very apparent he was urinating however.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcyLs_few0E

"Like animals that mark their territory, I pee in the pool. That is my territory". - Ryan Lochte.
Maybe the pro was just marking his territory.


"Kids, it is OK to pee in the pool" - Ryan Lochte.
There you go. Insight from the brightest Olympic swimming star. But he did not clarify if it is ok to pee in transition.


if all 2500 athletes peed in transition like this guy, we'd have a big p(ee)roblem.
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Hello bbryant and All,

Commercial opportunity here.

Ironman logo urine bottle (and cap to seal it) with your name on it.... to be disposed of later or collected by WADA.

Locate one in your gear at each transition and do not leave home without it.

No time wasted finding the porta potties.

Cheers,

Neal

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To me, social acceptability comes down to the "shaking" scenarios.

If you shake it more than twice, you're playing with it, and now I have a problem.
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I raced IMCHOO and teach at the local university. I told my students that if they volunteered and wrote a one page paper about it, they'd get extra credit. One of my students was a volunteer in the men's changing tent. He was somewhat taken aback at how dirty and smelly it got in there. I noticed the tent stank a lot more than usual. I don't know if he saw the pro urinate or not but I bet if he did, he'd never volunteer again. Not sure I would either. Believe it or not, the race isn't just about one person. When we get that attitude, it hurts the race, the racers and the volunteers.
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nealhe wrote:
Hello bbryant and All,

Commercial opportunity here.

Ironman logo urine bottle (and cap to seal it) with your name on it.... to be disposed of later or collected by WADA.

Locate one in your gear at each transition and do not leave home without it.

No time wasted finding the porta potties.

Cheers,

Neal

+1 mph Faster

Yeah, where was WADA? Have them ready and waiting in the tent. Problem solved.

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I'm not sure if this has been answered but did he whip it out to pee. I mean these guys usually blaze through transition so I can't imagine a guy just standing there pissing his shorts, but even if he did how would you notice?
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It was answered above. He didn't whip it out. He stood there with his legs slightly spread and dropped a puddle.
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It was answered above. He didn't whip it out. He stood there with his legs slightly spread and dropped a puddle.

I bet nobody did that while waiting in line for the swim while wearing their wetsuit.
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Totally agree. Swim lines for a TT start are always one big piss river, and I tend to contribute.

The only thing I question here is it appears porta-potties were right there.
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It was answered above. He didn't whip it out. He stood there with his legs slightly spread and dropped a puddle.

This happened with a female pro in a penalty tent at an IM race in the past. IIRC, the head referee was pretty pissed off (ha) about it and read her the riot act. (Which may be where the no peeing rule came from).

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Totally agree. Swim lines for a TT start are always one big piss river, and I tend to contribute.

The only thing I question here is it appears porta-potties were right there.

Yes. I was in Nooga as well and there were porta-potties right there. In more than one place very close by.
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mbwallis wrote:
Totally agree. Swim lines for a TT start are always one big piss river, and I tend to contribute.

The only thing I question here is it appears porta-potties were right there.

Yes, it's always an odd feeling standing there talking to someone secretly pissing down your leg.
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While spectating IM Wisconsin a couple years ago, I (and dozens of spectators and participants) witnessed an age grouper piss himslelf while walking out of Monona Terrace outside T2. All around him were porta loos - he could have walked a few steps and finished up in one of them. It was embarrasing to watch. I'm sure some of the athletes walked through it and it was done in the open, not behind the closed doors of a transition area.
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Peeing on yourself on the run is pretty common. What's wrong with that?
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Just be careful of hot races. Wouldn't want a "trucker bomb" situation in transition.
http://www.nydailynews.com/...em-article-1.1050862
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ChrisM wrote:
mbwallis wrote:
Totally agree. Swim lines for a TT start are always one big piss river, and I tend to contribute.

The only thing I question here is it appears porta-potties were right there.


Yes, it's always an odd feeling standing there talking to someone secretly pissing down your leg.

IMCHOO TT line was very wet. All They had to do was take 2 steps to the right and they could have pee'd on the grass. But they stood right on the pathway and pee'd. I saw this in IMLOU so I stopped at Dollar General and got a $1 pair of flip flops.
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caveAllen wrote:
ChrisM wrote:
mbwallis wrote:
Totally agree. Swim lines for a TT start are always one big piss river, and I tend to contribute.

The only thing I question here is it appears porta-potties were right there.


Yes, it's always an odd feeling standing there talking to someone secretly pissing down your leg.


IMCHOO TT line was very wet. All They had to do was take 2 steps to the right and they could have pee'd on the grass. But they stood right on the pathway and pee'd. I saw this in IMLOU so I stopped at Dollar General and got a $1 pair of flip flops.

Yes. I had the decency at NOLA and milwaukee to at least pee on the grass
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ironclm wrote:
mbwallis wrote:
It was answered above. He didn't whip it out. He stood there with his legs slightly spread and dropped a puddle.


This happened with a female pro in a penalty tent at an IM race in the past. IIRC, the head referee was pretty pissed off (ha) about it and read her the riot act. (Which may be where the no peeing rule came from).

No. The head ref was pissed on! *rim shot*


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not cool, but the port a jon lines at the aid stations were incredible, they should have had double the number available. seriously a line of 5 to 8 riders at each stop
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [sentania] [ In reply to ]
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sentania wrote:
Ass Pennies!

I checked the results, I had my fingers crossed that there was a Bellamy in the race.

Bellamy wasn't in the race.
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A. This Thread

and

B. The perpetrators; both need nicknames.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [winchester] [ In reply to ]
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not cool, but the port a jon lines at the aid stations were incredible, they should have had double the number available. seriously a line of 5 to 8 riders at each stop

Doubt they were very busy for the 4th finisher overall at T2 though.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Timtek] [ In reply to ]
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uhhh, good point
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [bbryant] [ In reply to ]
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Who hasn't pissed in a changing tent? *Looks around*
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [winchester] [ In reply to ]
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So is urine sterile or not sterile?

Sheep don't "loose" sleep worrying about the lion- h2ofun
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bbryant wrote:
Barrett Brandon was an embarrassment to himself and all of the
volunteers, several of whom who were forced to literally step back to
avoid getting splashed with his urine. I was embarrassed and outraged. I
am not sure if anything can be done to Mr. Brandon at this point. But
this sort of conduct by the Professional athletes or anyone else should
not be tolerated.

I see you take urine very seriously.
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david wrote:
... IF (you apparently didn't) you did not address it with race officials/the athlete/volunteer captain/other authority first.

What would you say to the guy? Urine in big trouble now mister?

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Kevin in MD] [ In reply to ]
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#pissgate

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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PissMan
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This is up there with the most entertaining thread in years
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japarker24 wrote:
#pissgate

No. Gate is hauled out and attached by simpleton journalists to things every time they want to try and imply it's a bigger thing than it is. It jumped the shark about two days after Watergate was over and anyone using it from here on out should be dragged over sandpaper and salt. Twice.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [motoguy128] [ In reply to ]
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DaveRoche wrote:
I think some slack should be cut in this instance. He is racing and his brain is red-lined.

A pro that trains on average 20+ ours a week, 5-1/2 hours into a race, performed at a upper zone 2 intensity is redlined? Really?

I know I had a pretty clear mind as I pissed on the bike around mile 108 in my IM. Talking to others later... the same downhill was a common place to "relax" near the end of the ride.


That being said... given the nature of the pace line the pro's were in, peeing on the bike might have been a little challenging without falling back to the end of the line.

HAW HAW

Now it's a Kerfuffle with a capital K.

Pissing in changing tent chair<punching woman racer<pissing on change tent floor<being paced by gorilla<drafting.

That about cover it?

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Just for the record ...

When I went into the changing tent at Metaman at Bintan in Indonesia (half and full races, huge prize purses, always a good pro lineup) ...

It was T2 and someone had just smoked an entire cigarette in the tent. The butt was on the floor, the tent was full of smoke, and I honestly would much rather get peed on than have to breathe that shit while changing. I went outside once I had the particulars covered over to finish changing (despite that being against the rules).

I know this is SE Asia, but come on, people!

It was raining outside. However, I did used to be a smoker, and believe me a true addict can get one lit and smoked in a hurricane if need be. So WTF?!

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Smoking in a tent wrong. So what is your point? Comparing gauche behavior? Urinating in a changing tent is unacceptable regardless. Especially when there were bathrooms right there. This guy was wrong. He created a safety hazard for other competitors and was inconsiderate beyond belief.

The guy should have at the least received a penalty and at best DQ'd. If athletes can't act like human beings, if their race in their mind supersedes all else, or if his brain was "too red-lined" as someone suggested then I suggest that he might want to find a new profession.
This guy is supposedly doing his job. Would it be acceptable for a professional basketball player to urinate while sitting on the bench?
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its only urine. dogs pee all over the place. beach, parks and nobody has any issues. a human pees and its a catastrophe!!

get real.
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Kevin in MD wrote:
A. This Thread

and

B. The perpetrators; both need nicknames.

Pee Party! Alas I couldn't find the relevant Senfeld clip.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [BlackStumpGumby] [ In reply to ]
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PeePot Dome Scandal?
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [btmoney] [ In reply to ]
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So Barrett Pissman Brandon or Barrett Brandon Pissman?

The guy who pissed on the concrete so everyone had to run through it.
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Slowman asked me to give some identifying information as I was a first time poster and I had made a specific allegation against a specific person, its only fair, and I agree, don't be a p*ssy and hide behind anonymity, .....so I did.
bb

Whilst we're on the subject of public decency, how about avoiding such sexist language. Is it unfair to expect more from such "august" members?
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winchester wrote:
not cool, but the port a jon lines at the aid stations were incredible, they should have had double the number available. seriously a line of 5 to 8 riders at each stop

If a pro is at the point where there are 5 to 8 people at each port-a-pottie, then he is obviously at a point where speed is not the biggest concern he or she should have in the event. If that is the case then taking the time to void oneself properly is the proper thing to do.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [NJSteve] [ In reply to ]
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NJSteve wrote:
PeePot Dome Scandal?

I was thinking just Piss Dome, but this one is better.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Ty] [ In reply to ]
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Ty wrote:
Smoking in a tent wrong. So what is your point? Comparing gauche behavior? Urinating in a changing tent is unacceptable regardless. Especially when there were bathrooms right there. This guy was wrong. He created a safety hazard for other competitors and was inconsiderate beyond belief.

The guy should have at the least received a penalty and at best DQ'd. If athletes can't act like human beings, if their race in their mind supersedes all else, or if his brain was "too red-lined" as someone suggested then I suggest that he might want to find a new profession.
This guy is supposedly doing his job. Would it be acceptable for a professional basketball player to urinate while sitting on the bench?

Whoa whoa whoa. This is ST! I'm supposed to have a point? :P

It's pretty shitty that human beings can't act like human beings, whether it's inappropriate pissing or smoking, and shitty that we actually have to spell stuff like this out. On signs, no less.

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[quote motoguy128 FWIM... The study also showed that the levels are very low and bacteria has been found in many other human tissues at similar levels. So human are not at all sterile on the inside, anywhere. So maybe more accurately, urine is probably comparably or still has significantly lower bacteria levels than "clean" drinking water.[/quote]
Quite. The US Army still recommends it for field treatment, FM 3-05.70 survival manual, ch 4,
"rinse the wound with large amounts of water under pressure. You can use fresh urine if water is not available."

Also in maggot therapy:
"flush the wound repeatedly with sterile water or fresh urine to remove the maggots."
which gives one to think.. and be grateful for hospitals and disinfectants..

Though I agree, pissing on the floor is gross, rude, crude and socially unacceptable.

I had no idea the women's changing tents were such a battle zone, blood and bodily fluids all over, though a moment's thought would have been enough.. eish.
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orphious wrote:

Wait for the shake!!!

LOL!!

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Slowman asked me to give some identifying information as I was a first time poster and I had made a specific allegation against a specific person, its only fair, and I agree, don't be a p*ssy and hide behind anonymity, .....so I did.
bb


Whilst we're on the subject of public decency, how about avoiding such sexist language. Is it unfair to expect more from such "august" members?

Since when has the slang for being a coward been sexist? I can only assume that this is the context in use above.

On the internet, you can be anything you want. It is a pity so many people choose to be stupid.
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This thread is really making me rethink my volunteer assignment for IMFL. I actually chose T2 change tent because those are the volunteers I remember most from my IM's. Everyone else is interchangeable to me, but if you are hurting in T2, someone helping you there can be a daysaver.

But if any of you piss on me I'm going to hide your shoes.

We are so fucked.
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Dude, it's 2014. People go ballistic when you lean your chair back in an airplane.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [micaza75] [ In reply to ]
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micaza75 wrote:
its only urine. dogs pee all over the place. beach, parks and nobody has any issues. a human pees and its a catastrophe!!

get real.

You have people volunteering to help you do a race. You piss on the pavement where they have to work all day long for nothing, helping people like you. You expect them to not be a tad unhappy about that?

We are so fucked.
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Slowman asked me to give some identifying information as I was a first time poster and I had made a specific allegation against a specific person, its only fair, and I agree, don't be a p*ssy and hide behind anonymity, .....so I did.
bb


Whilst we're on the subject of public decency, how about avoiding such sexist language. Is it unfair to expect more from such "august" members?

Miriam-Webster refers to the slang version of "pussy" as meaning a weak or cowardly man or boy. So unless you are referring to the sexism of calling men or boys weak or corwardly, then you are off base here.

There are other uses of the word including the adjective to describe pus, a vulgar term for female body part, or a feline.

There is an old joke in medicine. How do you spell "pussy"? P-I-R-U-L-E-N-T.
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Really? I'm the only one that thinks it's distasteful for a judge to use a derogatory term in a public forum. The word clearly equates male weakness with a slang term for female anatomy. It's sexist, period. It's disingenuous to suggest that the word might be intended to be pronounced as to refer to something filled with pus. I just found this to be pretty ironic as the OP is calling for decorum (rightly so in the incident described, but also the case in his own choice of words).
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nickwisconsin wrote:
nhmorgan wrote:
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Slowman asked me to give some identifying information as I was a first time poster and I had made a specific allegation against a specific person, its only fair, and I agree, don't be a p*ssy and hide behind anonymity, .....so I did.
bb


Whilst we're on the subject of public decency, how about avoiding such sexist language. Is it unfair to expect more from such "august" members?


Miriam-Webster refers to the slang version of "pussy" as meaning a weak or cowardly man or boy. So unless you are referring to the sexism of calling men or boys weak or corwardly, then you are off base here.

There are other uses of the word including the adjective to describe pus, a vulgar term for female body part, or a feline.

There is an old joke in medicine. How do you spell "pussy"? P-I-R-U-L-E-N-T.

Was the joke also that you spelled "Purulent" wrong? ;)
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Really? I'm the only one that thinks it's distasteful for a judge to use a derogatory term in a public forum. The word clearly equates male weakness with a slang term for female anatomy. It's sexist, period. It's disingenuous to suggest that the word might be intended to be pronounced as to refer to something filled with pus. I just found this to be pretty ironic as the OP is calling for decorum (rightly so in the incident described, but also the case in his own choice of words).


No, the word (in this context) clearly does not have anything to do with the female anatomy. Nor has it anything to do with pus as you have rightly pointed out. Try looking the word up in the online dictionaries whilst remembering the context to which it is in use.

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NJSteve wrote:
PeePot Dome Scandal?

That made me laugh out loud.
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This thread continues to deliver.

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nhmorgan wrote:
Really? I'm the only one that thinks it's distasteful for a judge to use a derogatory term in a public forum. The word clearly equates male weakness with a slang term for female anatomy. It's sexist, period. It's disingenuous to suggest that the word might be intended to be pronounced as to refer to something filled with pus. I just found this to be pretty ironic as the OP is calling for decorum (rightly so in the incident described, but also the case in his own choice of words).

If you are offended by it, why does matter if it's a judge specifically?? Not sure how that is even important to your argument.
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Can a mod change the title of this thread to Pee Pot Dome Scandal please.
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its only urine. dogs pee all over the place. beach, parks and nobody has any issues. a human pees and its a catastrophe!!

get real.

Dogs also screw all over the place....beaches, parks, etc. So according to your logic, that's okay for human behavior also??? Why don't you get real?
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You're incorrect. Check the OED and I will leave it at that. I'd rather not get into a discussion of semantics on a triathlon board. As to why it matters that it's a judge? As I mentioned before, it's ironic in the context of the original post and his being referred to as an august member of the community.
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Barrett Brandon's parents should be proud of their son.
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Kay Serrar wrote:
nickwisconsin wrote:
nhmorgan wrote:
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Slowman asked me to give some identifying information as I was a first time poster and I had made a specific allegation against a specific person, its only fair, and I agree, don't be a p*ssy and hide behind anonymity, .....so I did.
bb


Whilst we're on the subject of public decency, how about avoiding such sexist language. Is it unfair to expect more from such "august" members?


Miriam-Webster refers to the slang version of "pussy" as meaning a weak or cowardly man or boy. So unless you are referring to the sexism of calling men or boys weak or corwardly, then you are off base here.

There are other uses of the word including the adjective to describe pus, a vulgar term for female body part, or a feline.

There is an old joke in medicine. How do you spell "pussy"? P-I-R-U-L-E-N-T.


Was the joke also that you spelled "Purulent" wrong? ;)

No. Just a typo. Hitting shift key, -, and alternating letters. The u is next to the i. Want me to correct it or would that ruin the fun?
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You're incorrect. Check the OED and I will leave it at that. I'd rather not get into a discussion of semantics on a triathlon board. As to why it matters that it's a judge? As I mentioned before, it's ironic in the context of the original post and his being referred to as an august member of the community.

No prob. However, aren't semantics driving your concern in the first place (pussy = vagina vs pussy = weak/timid/etc)
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You're incorrect. Check the OED and I will leave it at that. I'd rather not get into a discussion of semantics on a triathlon board. As to why it matters that it's a judge? As I mentioned before, it's ironic in the context of the original post and his being referred to as an august member of the community.


What is ironic that you quote context above and yet to fail to see the context to which the word pussy is used.

I cannot access OED, you need to a subscription it seems. Princeton apparently has the details though http://www.princeton.edu/...100k/docs/Pussy.html, which gives us this;

Pussy is an English word meaning:


In all honesty, I don't need it. Let's consider the 2 sentences below;

1. Check out her pussy!

2. You pussy, why won't you jump from that ledge!.

Which context is most similar to that in use in the statement you are referring to. Answer anything but 2 and you are clearly in denial. Even 1 is ambiguous and could mean female genitalia or just a plain moggy.

You are attempting to argue the usage of a word because of an incorrect assumption about how it is being used. Remember, context is king.

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Whenever I hear about someone peeing in a race I always think about this.
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nhmorgan wrote:
You're incorrect. Check the OED and I will leave it at that. I'd rather not get into a discussion of semantics on a triathlon board. As to why it matters that it's a judge? As I mentioned before, it's ironic in the context of the original post and his being referred to as an august member of the community.


No prob. However, aren't semantics driving your concern in the first place (pussy = vagina vs pussy = weak/timid/etc)



You know, it's more that I figured that it would be pretty obvious and wouldn't require derailing a thread. However, would you expect to hear a judge use the term in a courtroom? See, it's not only a distinction between connotation and denotation and the constellation of shared meanings. Nor is it solely a question of whether the word specifically derives its meaning as a metaphor. The word has a history of being used to refer to (to quote the OED) "A sweet or effeminate male. Also a homosexual," in addition to its common an course usage to refer both to women's genitalia or as synecdoche for a woman as a sexual object. What is also clear is that the etymology of the word is not derived from pusillanimous.
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chrisbint wrote:
nhmorgan wrote:
You're incorrect. Check the OED and I will leave it at that. I'd rather not get into a discussion of semantics on a triathlon board. As to why it matters that it's a judge? As I mentioned before, it's ironic in the context of the original post and his being referred to as an august member of the community.


What is ironic that you quote context above and yet to fail to see the context to which the word pussy is used.

I cannot access OED, you need to a subscription it seems. Princeton apparently has the details though http://www.princeton.edu/...100k/docs/Pussy.html, which gives us this;

Pussy is an English word meaning:


In all honesty, I don't need it. Let's consider the 2 sentences below;

1. Check out her pussy!

2. You pussy, why won't you jump from that ledge!.

Which context is most similar to that in use in the statement you are referring to. Answer anything but 2 and you are clearly in denial. Even 1 is ambiguous and could mean female genitalia or just a plain moggy.

You are attempting to argue the usage of a word because of an incorrect assumption about how it is being used. Remember, context is king.

What do you think the third definition is derived from? If you can't see the connection / derivative from definition #2 and is meant as a degradtion to someone's manhood by comparing them to a woman's genitalia, I can't help you.

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Power13 wrote:
chrisbint wrote:
nhmorgan wrote:
You're incorrect. Check the OED and I will leave it at that. I'd rather not get into a discussion of semantics on a triathlon board. As to why it matters that it's a judge? As I mentioned before, it's ironic in the context of the original post and his being referred to as an august member of the community.


What is ironic that you quote context above and yet to fail to see the context to which the word pussy is used.

I cannot access OED, you need to a subscription it seems. Princeton apparently has the details though http://www.princeton.edu/...100k/docs/Pussy.html, which gives us this;

Pussy is an English word meaning:


In all honesty, I don't need it. Let's consider the 2 sentences below;

1. Check out her pussy!

2. You pussy, why won't you jump from that ledge!.

Which context is most similar to that in use in the statement you are referring to. Answer anything but 2 and you are clearly in denial. Even 1 is ambiguous and could mean female genitalia or just a plain moggy.

You are attempting to argue the usage of a word because of an incorrect assumption about how it is being used. Remember, context is king.


What do you think the third definition is derived from? If you can't see the connection / derivative from definition #2 and is meant as a degration to someone's manhood by comparing them to a woman's genitalia, I can't help you.


No, I am sorry, I can't. Can you show me your references to where this derivation is documented. Or is it just an assumption. OED which is becoming the defacto reference in this thread does not appear to have any entry that implies this.

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nhmorgan wrote:
NeverEnough wrote:
nhmorgan wrote:
You're incorrect. Check the OED and I will leave it at that. I'd rather not get into a discussion of semantics on a triathlon board. As to why it matters that it's a judge? As I mentioned before, it's ironic in the context of the original post and his being referred to as an august member of the community.


No prob. However, aren't semantics driving your concern in the first place (pussy = vagina vs pussy = weak/timid/etc)



You know, it's more that I figured that it would be pretty obvious and wouldn't require derailing a thread. However, would you expect to hear a judge use the term in a courtroom? See, it's not only a distinction between connotation and denotation and the constellation of shared meanings. Nor is it solely a question of whether the word specifically derives its meaning as a metaphor. The word has a history of being used to refer to (to quote the OED) "A sweet or effeminate male. Also a homosexual," in addition to its common an course usage to refer both to women's genitalia or as synecdoche for a woman as a sexual object. What is also clear is that the etymology of the word is not derived from pusillanimous.

nhmorgan, I apologize if the use of "p*ssy" offended you as being sexist. that was not my intent at all, and I assume out of the some 15000+ folks who viewed this thread the ratio of the offended is essentially, well 1 in 15,000. perhaps I should have said "don't be a sniveling little whiner and hide behind anonymity." But then I guess I would have offended short or small people or maybe folks with a nasal twang in their speech patterns. The point was I agree with Slowman, people online should not make specific allegations against specific people and then attempt to remain anonymous. My job has nothing to do with it, and I still think its inappropriate to urinate in the change tent, even if urine is sterile...or not.....

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Ty wrote:
Barrett Brandon's parents should be proud of their son.

My initial thought was to be appalled, like most here seem to be. But, he peed in his pants. He didn't whip it out and let a stream fly. He is welcome to pee in his pants on the swim. He is welcome to pee in his pants on the bike. He is welcome to pee in his pants on the run. If he had peed in his pants in transition while moving through transition, surely there would be no outcry about it. His problem simply is that he stood still and let a little puddle form. Surely it would have been better for him to not do it this way, but upon reflection I see this as less of an inexcusable offense as the OP and others.
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Biggs wrote:
micaza75 wrote:
its only urine. dogs pee all over the place. beach, parks and nobody has any issues. a human pees and its a catastrophe!!

get real.


Dogs also screw all over the place....beaches, parks, etc. So according to your logic, that's okay for human behavior also??? Why don't you get real?

And lick their own buttholes, eat any animal shit they find laying around, etc. The "but dogs do it!" excuse is perhaps the funniest part of this thread.
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I believe IMFL has the changing area inside a hotel conference room. Someone peeing in there would really make for a great thread.
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If it was grass and he washed himself with a water bottle would it matter? I pissed myself in a grass floor penalty tent right outside T2 as I was serving a 4 minute penalty. As I was doing it, I was dumping an entire bottle of water on myself. How is this different than pissing in your wetsuit at the swim start or pissing on the bike?

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nhmorgan wrote:
NeverEnough wrote:
nhmorgan wrote:
You're incorrect. Check the OED and I will leave it at that. I'd rather not get into a discussion of semantics on a triathlon board. As to why it matters that it's a judge? As I mentioned before, it's ironic in the context of the original post and his being referred to as an august member of the community.


No prob. However, aren't semantics driving your concern in the first place (pussy = vagina vs pussy = weak/timid/etc)





You know, it's more that I figured that it would be pretty obvious and wouldn't require derailing a thread. However, would you expect to hear a judge use the term in a courtroom? See, it's not only a distinction between connotation and denotation and the constellation of shared meanings. Nor is it solely a question of whether the word specifically derives its meaning as a metaphor. The word has a history of being used to refer to (to quote the OED) "A sweet or effeminate male. Also a homosexual," in addition to its common an course usage to refer both to women's genitalia or as synecdoche for a woman as a sexual object. What is also clear is that the etymology of the word is not derived from pusillanimous.

No, I would not expect to hear a judge use that in a courtroom.
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chrisbint wrote:
Power13 wrote:
chrisbint wrote:
nhmorgan wrote:
You're incorrect. Check the OED and I will leave it at that. I'd rather not get into a discussion of semantics on a triathlon board. As to why it matters that it's a judge? As I mentioned before, it's ironic in the context of the original post and his being referred to as an august member of the community.


What is ironic that you quote context above and yet to fail to see the context to which the word pussy is used.

I cannot access OED, you need to a subscription it seems. Princeton apparently has the details though http://www.princeton.edu/...100k/docs/Pussy.html, which gives us this;

Pussy is an English word meaning:


In all honesty, I don't need it. Let's consider the 2 sentences below;

1. Check out her pussy!

2. You pussy, why won't you jump from that ledge!.

Which context is most similar to that in use in the statement you are referring to. Answer anything but 2 and you are clearly in denial. Even 1 is ambiguous and could mean female genitalia or just a plain moggy.

You are attempting to argue the usage of a word because of an incorrect assumption about how it is being used. Remember, context is king.


What do you think the third definition is derived from? If you can't see the connection / derivative from definition #2 and is meant as a degration to someone's manhood by comparing them to a woman's genitalia, I can't help you.


No, I am sorry, I can't. Can you show me your references to where this derivation is documented. Or is it just an assumption. OED which is becoming the defacto reference in this thread does not appear to have any entry that implies this.

It's okay, I don't need your help.

Well, you clearly do since you are either being incredibly naive or intentionally obtuse.

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ds wrote:
I believe IMFL has the changing area inside a hotel conference room. Someone peeing in there would really make for a great thread.

You're right ( I forgot that they moved it inside at some point). I'll definitely keep an eye out for it.

Maybe I should bring them a tarp.

We are so fucked.
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ds wrote:
I believe IMFL has the changing area inside a hotel conference room. Someone peeing in there would really make for a great thread.

I thought they didn't worry about stalls or port-o-johns at IMFL?


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ds wrote:
I believe IMFL has the changing area inside a hotel conference room. Someone peeing in there would really make for a great thread.

It's not too late! People can still go! (To IMFL, and at IMFL :) )

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nhmorgan wrote:
NeverEnough wrote:
nhmorgan wrote:
You're incorrect. Check the OED and I will leave it at that. I'd rather not get into a discussion of semantics on a triathlon board. As to why it matters that it's a judge? As I mentioned before, it's ironic in the context of the original post and his being referred to as an august member of the community.


No prob. However, aren't semantics driving your concern in the first place (pussy = vagina vs pussy = weak/timid/etc)



You know, it's more that I figured that it would be pretty obvious and wouldn't require derailing a thread. However, would you expect to hear a judge use the term in a courtroom? See, it's not only a distinction between connotation and denotation and the constellation of shared meanings. Nor is it solely a question of whether the word specifically derives its meaning as a metaphor. The word has a history of being used to refer to (to quote the OED) "A sweet or effeminate male. Also a homosexual," in addition to its common an course usage to refer both to women's genitalia or as synecdoche for a woman as a sexual object. What is also clear is that the etymology of the word is not derived from pusillanimous.

First, he didn't "say" anything, he wrote it. Secondly, he didn't actually put the "u" in the word, he used an *, which is like saying "the f-word" instead of "fuc___" well, you get my point. Thirdly, I thought "p*ssy" was "pissy" (not really, but being argumentative). Fourthly, triathletes in lycra crying foul about decency...that is truly ironic!!

I think we should go after the british for there misuse of their word for cigarette!!!
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Doesn't anyone here watch The League????? "Once the pee train's off the station there's no turning back"


I would post a video clip if I had any talent.


Judge, so you witnessed and event and immediately find the perp guilty without any questioning or cross examination? Just asking..
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I doubt it was done maliciously. You need to consider intent as well. This guy is racing for a pay check not drunk on the street and peeing in front of someone in the public.

Have you seen the potties at IMs? They are disgusting. Should we be disqualifying the disgusting pigs who make a mess in there? Or do we just accept it and move on?

Its amazing how easily people get offended. Especially all the people on this thread who were not even there.
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Humans do that too and you could probably find some examples on this thing called the internet.

Have you ever looked in a potty at an IM event half way through? Maybe we should DQ all those disgusting pigs for making a mess in there. I bet you a dog wouldn't even go to the bathroom in one of those. Or we could just accept that people make mistakes and move on.

How about if someone spits or vomits or sneezes some phlem on the ground or blows their nose in transition...........DQ them as well? you can control all those bodily functions some way or another.

So get off your high horse and realize that his intent was not malicious and he was doing, right or wrong, what he thought was best to earn a pay check!!!
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People do that too. I don't see people making a big deal if a dog pees on the sidewalk or in the park where my kids play.

What about the disgusting pigs who make a mess of the potties at races? DQ them as well or just accept the situation and intent and move on.

Maybe you should return to your bubble and keep it real. You know the bubble where humans make no errors in judgement and are perfect like you.
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Hmm, many different reactions to this topic. Could someone subject this to the scientific method; go to a tent, stand in the entrance and piss on the floor. Take a survey of those helping out and the guests at the wedding, graduation, outing, bar mitzvah, company picnic, your local triathlon, etc., and see if this is just what people with a full bladder, and in a hurry, do.
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Your comparisons are amusing. I was responding to the comment that it's ok for a human do to X in public, b/c a dog does X in public. What that has to do with golden shower fetish sites on the internet, I have no idea. Behind closed doors, he can piss himself to his heart's desire. And yeah, sneezing in transition is identical to running pasta a porta-potty, only to stop and take a piss in the doorway. Exactly the same. You got me.

I never even said he should have been DQ'd. I just find it poor form and low class.
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micaza75 wrote:
I doubt it was done maliciously. You need to consider intent as well. This guy is racing for a pay check not drunk on the street and peeing in front of someone in the public.

Have you seen the potties at IMs? They are disgusting. Should we be disqualifying the disgusting pigs who make a mess in there? Or do we just accept it and move on?

Its amazing how easily people get offended. Especially all the people on this thread who were not even there.

I don't consider it being easily offended to recoil at someone urinating at the entrance of a changing tent where people are barefoot and in a rush themselves. It is crude and disgusting. And you say you need to consider intent? Really? Do they consider intent when they hand out drafting penalties? There are codes that triathletes are to abide bide and as stated earlier by the OP: 3.3 General Conduct. At or during an event, or while at the event site,
all participants must:
b. Conduct themselves in a manner that is not offensive in any way to
fellow participants, spectators, officials or volunteers and is considered
reasonable and acceptable in the community

and
3.4.1 Endangerment. No participant shall commit any dangerous act which
could cause injury to any participant. Any violation of this Section shall
result in disqualification.



Obviously Mr. Brandon broke these basic rules of conduct regardless of his "intent." And yes! He is racing for a paycheck. In fact is suppose to be professional. Is this how a professional conducts himself? I could forgive a drunk going in the street and understand it better than Mr. Brandon's actions.
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Biggs wrote:
micaza75 wrote:
People do that too. I don't see people making a big deal if a dog pees on the sidewalk or in the park where my kids play.

What about the disgusting pigs who make a mess of the potties at races? DQ them as well or just accept the situation and intent and move on.

Maybe you should return to your bubble and keep it real. You know the bubble where humans make no errors in judgement and are perfect like you.


Oh not the "the dogs do it" analogy. Yes humans make mistakes but when it affects the health, safety and welfare of fellow competitors it should be addressed. This was no an accident on his part it was done with intent and evidently no embarrassment. We have to have rules to keep people like this guy in check. You would think it would be a given to not urinate at the entrance of a changing tent. Or in public at all.
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So what of the people who urinate or defecate all over the potties?

Perhaps we should have volunteers check the potties after each use to assess the cleanliness and hygiene of the potties because when I went to use a potty at an event last summer there was faeces all over the place and it was hardly hygienic and I felt that my health and safety was in jeopardy if I used it.


He's human, made a error in judgement, people need to move on.
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nhmorgan wrote:
Really? I'm the only one that thinks it's distasteful for a judge to use a derogatory term in a public forum. The word clearly equates male weakness with a slang term for female anatomy. It's sexist, period. It's disingenuous to suggest that the word might be intended to be pronounced as to refer to something filled with pus. I just found this to be pretty ironic as the OP is calling for decorum (rightly so in the incident described, but also the case in his own choice of words).


No, the word (in this context) clearly does not have anything to do with the female anatomy. Nor has it anything to do with pus as you have rightly pointed out. Try looking the word up in the online dictionaries whilst remembering the context to which it is in use.

Here is a little help http://english.stackexchange.com/...-come-to-mean-coward

I admire your effort, but it doesn't pass the sniff test. Sometimes words come to mean other things, but you can't ignore their roots. Think saying you got "jewed" or "gyped". Does that mean someone is anti-Semitic or anti-Romani? Not necessarily. However the words obviously come from that and have no place in polite conversation. Likewise with kids using "gay" for anything they don't like. They may not mean homosexual, but that usage is undeniably negative to homosexuals in its roots and shouldn't be used in that manner.

P*ssy comes from a place of ascribing negative attributes to women. Period.

(pun intended)

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [david] [ In reply to ]
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DQ him
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Ty wrote:
Barrett Brandon's parents should be proud of their son.


My initial thought was to be appalled, like most here seem to be. But, he peed in his pants. He didn't whip it out and let a stream fly. He is welcome to pee in his pants on the swim. He is welcome to pee in his pants on the bike. He is welcome to pee in his pants on the run. If he had peed in his pants in transition while moving through transition, surely there would be no outcry about it. His problem simply is that he stood still and let a little puddle form. Surely it would have been better for him to not do it this way, but upon reflection I see this as less of an inexcusable offense as the OP and others.

Was thinking the same thing. The OP kind of made it sound like he stood in the opening of the change tent, whipped it out and started pissing on the floor.
What he did is really no worse than all the women pissing on the chairs they are sitting on, that other women expect to be able to sit on....
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Agree, i think most of us have been guilty of pissing in the tent before with shorts/onesie on...
If he whipped it out, its another matter, no one really wants to see that...

Usually do it only in T1, as i take off wet suit and usually seated....no whipping out
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [asianzone] [ In reply to ]
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If it was not worthy of confronting him at the time or notifying an official at the time, I'm not sure it's fair to call him out by name now, although your overall point seems fair.
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If it was not worthy of confronting him at the time or notifying an official at the time, I'm not sure it's fair to call him out by name now, athlough your overall point seems fair.

Agree, shouldn't have call him out by name, he is not the only guilty one on this board to have done that!!
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If it was not worthy of confronting him at the time or notifying an official at the time, I'm not sure it's fair to call him out by name now, although your overall point seems fair.

This was already addressed in earlier posts. The volunteers said it happened so fast and they were shocked. They did look for an official but they didn't have one around and then he was gone.

The OP said that he entered the tent and stood in the doorway and did it in clear view of all to see. He did not wait and even attempt to go to the side or where he was changing. He did it in doorway where every athlete entering barefoot would step in his waste. It is crude, rude, unsanitary and depending on what bugs this guy might have even dangerous. I would think WTC would have some rules regarding basic sanitation and if not should be reported to the health department. If they are unwilling to self-enforce maybe someone else should.
Besides just because you have done it doesn't make it ok. It may seem ok to you but it isn't ok. Against the rules of conduct.
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Ty wrote:
cwhyte wrote:
If it was not worthy of confronting him at the time or notifying an official at the time, I'm not sure it's fair to call him out by name now, although your overall point seems fair.

This was already addressed in earlier posts. The volunteers said it happened so fast and they were shocked. They did look for an official but they didn't have one around and then he was gone.

The OP said that he entered the tent and stood in the doorway and did it in clear view of all to see. He did not wait and even attempt to go to the side or where he was changing. He did it in doorway where every athlete entering barefoot would step in his waste. It is crude, rude, unsanitary and depending on what bugs this guy might have even dangerous. I would think WTC would have some rules regarding basic sanitation and if not should be reported to the health department. If they are unwilling to self-enforce maybe someone else should.
Besides just because you have done it doesn't make it ok. It may seem ok to you but it isn't ok. Against the rules of conduct.

If they knew the guy's name, I would think they could have still reported it to an official eventually, given multiple witnesses, and then the official could have still dealt with it. I'm still struggling with posting it here by name. Maybe I'm still missing some details.
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I could not care less about piss in the tent but as a participant of IM Chatt I want to know who SHIT on the overpass wall by the blue water tower. That I have a problem with.
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If you read the entire post it details the attempts that have been made to contact WTC and the contact with USAT on this. Its not as if they just called him out on the board with no attempt at any other communication.
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Ya, but that is not against the race rules (insert sarcasm here).
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [micaza75] [ In reply to ]
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Humans do that too and you could probably find some examples on this thing called the internet.

So get off your high horse and realize that his intent was not malicious and he was doing, right or wrong, what he thought was best to earn a pay check!!!

Must be a fun place where you work.....
I bet you get used to the smell and the slippery floors......

Otherwise:

From the descriptions what goes on inside changing tents I am really happy that I do not bother to spend any time in them.
Fondly remember the days without the pee and modesty tents....
And chairs in transitions were only allowed for disabled competitors..

The sport has regressed in a big way.
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I could not care less about piss in the tent but as a participant of IM Chatt I want to know who SHIT on the overpass wall by the blue water tower. That I have a problem with.

missed that one (thankfully). seriously? there were aid stations every 500ft with port o potties
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I could not care less about piss in the tent but as a participant of IM Chatt I want to know who SHIT on the overpass wall by the blue water tower. That I have a problem with.

It was this guy......


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While I may agree with your point, how did you respond and what steps did you take? I think it is highly inappropriate to call out a pro athlete several weeks after an event on a public forum IF (you apparently didn't) you did not address it with race officials/the athlete/volunteer captain/other authority first. IF you did none of the above, I unfortunately think your post may be as inappropriate as his conduct.

You are a douche. You are seriously taking issue with a volunteer calling someone for acting completely inappropriately? So if someone does not immediately take action with inappropriate behavior it is not their fault.

Let me just say again, you are huge douche.

WTC should ban this pro for at least a year. You should leave this forum in shame.
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I think some slack should be cut in this instance. He is racing and his brain is red-lined, it's not like he is making a rational cost-benefit decision to offend people. .

So he is a "prefessional" doing his job. So, "professionals" should be excused for inappropriate behavior while they are "working". This is just further confirmation that "professional" triathletes are mostly a joke, they are into total bush league stuff like this.

What he did would almost be no different than me taking a piss in the middle of the conference room at work because I was late for an important meeting with the CEO.
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I love the logic here. It is ok for all 100 swimmers to pee in the pool (according to countless ST threads). Where you slosh around in it, get it in your mouth, eyes, nose and swallow some. But one guy pees on the ground where it sinks into the soil and 3/4 of the STers think that is just gross that they have to run over it.

You understand adverse selection right?
A minority of people think its okay to pee in the pool, but they happen to be very vocal about it, so it would appear to be acceptable if you read the threads.
I consider it completely unacceptable and have never done it, but also never bother to participate in threads about it.
I'll admit I peed in my wetsuit one time in like 50 races, it was kind of an emergency and I couldn't do anything else. I am still embarrassed that I did it.

However, I don't know of any other sport where there are so many stories about peeing in the pool, peeing yourself in the bike, peeing in chairs in changing tents.

I mean seriously, do people here ever take a look in the mirror and think about having some freaking self respect?
I did one IM, I stopped 3 times on the bike to pee in a portajohn, but people here convince themselves it is worth peeing
on yourself or on a chair to save 2 minutes in a 12 hour race. Truly the land of narcissists.
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Brooks, it's so funny that you bring that up. I JUST heard Bobby McGee tell that story while we were leading a camp at the OTC in the Springs - last weekend. It was in a psych presentation and the way Bobby told it was something like this: Rowdy Gains couldn't compete in the 1980 Games in Moscow due to Carter's boycott. So, during Gains' "break" some young dude broke one of Rowdy's records. Clock ticks around to '84 in LA and Rowdy is on the blocks right next to the younger, faster swimmer - I think this was for hte 100 free. Rowdy intentionally false starts (you used to get one, now they don't get any) and while swimming back to the blocks he ducks under the lane rope, into the kids lane and then pops and says to him on the pool deck, "I just pissed in your lane". That was intended to psych him out and I can see it working.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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G-man wrote:
I love the logic here. It is ok for all 100 swimmers to pee in the pool (according to countless ST threads). Where you slosh around in it, get it in your mouth, eyes, nose and swallow some. But one guy pees on the ground where it sinks into the soil and 3/4 of the STers think that is just gross that they have to run over it.


You understand adverse selection right?
A minority of people think its okay to pee in the pool, but they happen to be very vocal about it, so it would appear to be acceptable if you read the threads.
I consider it completely unacceptable and have never done it, but also never bother to participate in threads about it.
I'll admit I peed in my wetsuit one time in like 50 races, it was kind of an emergency and I couldn't do anything else. I am still embarrassed that I did it.

However, I don't know of any other sport where there are so many stories about peeing in the pool, peeing yourself in the bike, peeing in chairs in changing tents.

I mean seriously, do people here ever take a look in the mirror and think about having some freaking self respect?
I did one IM, I stopped 3 times on the bike to pee in a portajohn, but people here convince themselves it is worth peeing
on yourself or on a chair to save 2 minutes in a 12 hour race. Truly the land of narcissists.


I did Ironman Coeur d'Alene in 16:52:56. I peed on the bike about 4-5 times. Peeing on the bike literally made me an Ironman (and coke and chicken broth).
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I would only be offended by what he did, if while standing there peeing, he let out nice long "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!"
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I mean seriously, do people here ever take a look in the mirror and think about having some freaking self respect?
I did one IM, I stopped 3 times on the bike to pee in a portajohn, but people here convince themselves it is worth peeing
on yourself or on a chair to save 2 minutes in a 12 hour race. Truly the land of narcissists.

Since we're already so off topic... you would buy an aero helmet for hundreds of dollars to save 2 minutes, but wouldn't piss yourself for free to save 2 minutes?

If you want to make a stand against peeing yourself on principle, fine, no judgement there... but if you've spent (likely a lot of) money on go fast goodies, don't use the "worth it" argument.

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One of my all time favorites.
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Hahahaha!

****

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [NeverEnough] [ In reply to ]
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So he is aware of the thread yet he remains silent? That in itself speaks volumes.
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I saw that on the bridge and had to do a double take! Looked like a huge water balloon full of crap exploded on the concrete wall.
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"So he is aware of the thread yet he remains silent? That in itself speaks volumes."

He's probably too pissed off to post.

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So he is aware of the thread yet he remains silent? That in itself speaks volumes.

You mean like ounces or maybe even a liter or more?
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I could not care less about piss in the tent but as a participant of IM Chatt I want to know who SHIT on the overpass wall by the blue water tower. That I have a problem with.

That was me, sorry, the change tent was occupied.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [kdw] [ In reply to ]
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"So he is aware of the thread yet he remains silent? That in itself speaks volumes."

He's probably too pissed off to post.

And thinking to himself "Barrett, urine a lot of trouble..."
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If you read the entire post it details the attempts that have been made to contact WTC and the contact with USAT on this. Its not as if they just called him out on the board with no attempt at any other communication.

Fair enough, I guess I missed that. Even so, I personally would not have named him here. Maybe the WTC and USAT needs a little time to work the matter, it will be interesting to se if they do anything. I think the same discussion that has taken place could have been done without the name and resulting public ridicule (depending on opinions). People make mistakes in judgment all the time, but that does not always need to be made public to the internet/ST/world. Just my opinion.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Ty] [ In reply to ]
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Smoking in a tent wrong. So what is your point? Comparing gauche behavior? Urinating in a changing tent is unacceptable regardless. Especially when there were bathrooms right there. This guy was wrong. He created a safety hazard for other competitors and was inconsiderate beyond belief.

The guy should have at the least received a penalty and at best DQ'd. If athletes can't act like human beings, if their race in their mind supersedes all else, or if his brain was "too red-lined" as someone suggested then I suggest that he might want to find a new profession.
This guy is supposedly doing his job. Would it be acceptable for a professional basketball player to urinate while sitting on the bench?

Sure, basketball players have been known to do it during games where they don't have enough time to remove themselves to the locker room; perhaps not "often" but not THAT uncommon either... the protocol differs a bit, though ~ just grab one of the ubiquitous 'sweat' towels and stuff it down the front of your shorts to soak things up as needed, then dispose of the towel just like all the other sweaty/dirty towels they go through in bulk during games. When done in a huddle during a TO or at the end of the bench area away from the action, it's typically pretty inconspicuous and usually goes unnoticed (although surely you can find a youtube clip of it somewhere if you cared enough to try).

Obviously if they dribbled it all over the floor where everyone else had to run through it = very different scenario.
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Biggs wrote:
micaza75 wrote:
its only urine. dogs pee all over the place. beach, parks and nobody has any issues. a human pees and its a catastrophe!!


get real.


Dogs also screw all over the place....beaches, parks, etc. So according to your logic, that's okay for human behavior also??? Why don't you get real?


Quick, somebody call Wade Blasingame!

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Hangs in the tent in Kona


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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [p2k2001] [ In reply to ]
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So he is aware of the thread yet he remains silent? That in itself speaks volumes.

Man, there sure are a lot of people making a lot of assumptions with out knowing any of the facts. Maybe he was ASKED to not comment yet, has THAT ever occurred to anyone? Why don't we let the process take its course before the Salem Witch trials start.
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Love that Wade Blasingame video.One of Will Ferrells best i think.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [LSUfan4444] [ In reply to ]
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LSUfan4444 wrote:
Hangs in the tent in Kona




Q: If you are Russian into the transition tent and Russian out of the tent, what are you while in the tent?





A: European
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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tri_yoda wrote:
G-man wrote:
I love the logic here. It is ok for all 100 swimmers to pee in the pool (according to countless ST threads). Where you slosh around in it, get it in your mouth, eyes, nose and swallow some. But one guy pees on the ground where it sinks into the soil and 3/4 of the STers think that is just gross that they have to run over it.


You understand adverse selection right?
A minority of people think its okay to pee in the pool, but they happen to be very vocal about it, so it would appear to be acceptable if you read the threads.
I consider it completely unacceptable and have never done it, but also never bother to participate in threads about it.
I'll admit I peed in my wetsuit one time in like 50 races, it was kind of an emergency and I couldn't do anything else. I am still embarrassed that I did it.

However, I don't know of any other sport where there are so many stories about peeing in the pool, peeing yourself in the bike, peeing in chairs in changing tents.

I mean seriously, do people here ever take a look in the mirror and think about having some freaking self respect?
I did one IM, I stopped 3 times on the bike to pee in a portajohn, but people here convince themselves it is worth peeing
on yourself or on a chair to save 2 minutes in a 12 hour race. Truly the land of narcissists.

I bet close to half of the peeps on ST pee in the pool. Some who support it may be doing so just for attention (trolls). God knows ST is loaded with trolls. It really doesn't give triathletes a good image if we need to be told NOT to pee in the changing tent. The fact that some grown adult has to be told that is very very disturbing.

My view about peeing in the pool or peeing anywhere other than a bathroom or other actually facility comes down to your point about looking in the mirror. I just have too much respect for other people to pee in the pool, pee in the shower, pee in the changing tent (granted I never knew this was a thing), etc. I have too much self respect to pee on myself under any conditions short of life threatening. It's just something I'd expect mature adults to understand.

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tri_yoda wrote:
G-man wrote:
I love the logic here. It is ok for all 100 swimmers to pee in the pool (according to countless ST threads). Where you slosh around in it, get it in your mouth, eyes, nose and swallow some. But one guy pees on the ground where it sinks into the soil and 3/4 of the STers think that is just gross that they have to run over it.


You understand adverse selection right?
A minority of people think its okay to pee in the pool, but they happen to be very vocal about it, so it would appear to be acceptable if you read the threads.
I consider it completely unacceptable and have never done it, but also never bother to participate in threads about it.
I'll admit I peed in my wetsuit one time in like 50 races, it was kind of an emergency and I couldn't do anything else. I am still embarrassed that I did it.

However, I don't know of any other sport where there are so many stories about peeing in the pool, peeing yourself in the bike, peeing in chairs in changing tents.

I mean seriously, do people here ever take a look in the mirror and think about having some freaking self respect?
I did one IM, I stopped 3 times on the bike to pee in a portajohn, but people here convince themselves it is worth peeing
on yourself or on a chair to save 2 minutes in a 12 hour race. Truly the land of narcissists.

I bet close to half of the peeps on ST pee in the pool. Some who support it may be doing so just for attention (trolls). God knows ST is loaded with trolls. It really doesn't give triathletes a good image if we need to be told NOT to pee in the changing tent. The fact that some grown adult has to be told that is very very disturbing.

My view about peeing in the pool or peeing anywhere other than a bathroom or other actually facility comes down to your point about looking in the mirror. I just have too much respect for other people to pee in the pool, pee in the shower, pee in the changing tent (granted I never knew this was a thing), etc. I have too much self respect to pee on myself under any conditions short of life threatening. It's just something I'd expect mature adults to understand.

Yawn......


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http://youtu.be/aF02roMiN5Y
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Thanks. 380K people didn't mind watching it. Heaven forbid some guy racing for a measly pay check!!!
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First, I'm amazed that there are 10 pages of comments about a guy peeing. Second, I'm amazed I read it.
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My view about peeing in the pool or peeing anywhere other than a bathroom or other actually facility comes down to your point about looking in the mirror. I just have too much respect for other people to pee in the pool, pee in the shower, pee in the changing tent (granted I never knew this was a thing), etc. I have too much self respect to pee on myself under any conditions short of life threatening. It's just something I'd expect mature adults to understand.

Great post.
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Thank God urine is sterile, you could drink it if you had to. Crazy fact for the day, there are greater than 1 million microorganisms in a gram of dirt; if you want a sterile changing environment, ain't gunna happen.

Urine us not sterile when it exits the body even in healthy people there is some bacteria. Assuming he isn't carrying some communicable disease he us still an embarrassment.

So, the question we should all ask in the future is, what rules do we have to follow today and does it depend on pro/amateur status or place in the race?
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Just read the thread...THE WHOLE THREAD...I'm now just that much dumber.

As a former middling (piddling?) pro, I have a couple of comments, neither too important:

1. I'm from Louisiana, I suppose piss bothers us less than our more genteel Tenn brethren, but had I witnessed the "offense", I would have commented "F#kin' Texas pissies!". Then I would have grabbed a coupla water bottles and diluted the area. This reduces the smell 100% more than internet bitching. Seriously yer Honor, HTFU.

2. In Kona '93-ish, I had a little trouble at the 1st bike aid station, w/concussion, profuse bleeding, broken helmet, broken seat stay, the usual. So when I start the run, I'm behind a bunch of pro chicks. I'm catching up to one on Alii Dr. at about mile5, crowds lining the street, children cheering, lovely family atmosphere, when this chick (in mid stride) reaches back, pulls her running shorts to the side, and clips off about a 10" piece of cable. The turd comes flipping out, glance off her calf and SPLAT! hits the pavement 5' in front of me, giving me just enough time to poopy-hurdle. How many people behind me also had to poopy-hurdle? And that, I think we can all agree is NOT sterile!
There were bushes, occasional port-a-potties, etc. As with the Little Pisser From Texas, spend 10secs, save your dignity.

Yes, I'm haunted still. The meds help.

-bobo


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bobo wrote:
this chick (in mid stride) reaches back, pulls her running shorts to the side, and clips off about a 10" piece of cable. The turd comes flipping out, glance off her calf and SPLAT! hits the pavement 5' in front of me, giving me just enough time to poopy-hurdle. How many people behind me also had to poopy-hurdle? And that, I think we can all agree is NOT sterile!
There were bushes, occasional port-a-potties, etc. As with the Little Pisser From Texas, spend 10secs, save your dignity.

Yes, I'm haunted still. The meds help.

-bobo

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Lifeguard pees in pool ... Jamie Kennedy Experiment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sInhzdAmrWk
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2. In Kona '93-ish, I had a little trouble at the 1st bike aid station, w/concussion, profuse bleeding, broken helmet, broken seat stay, the usual. So when I start the run, I'm behind a bunch of pro chicks. I'm catching up to one on Alii Dr. at about mile5, crowds lining the street, children cheering, lovely family atmosphere, when this chick (in mid stride) reaches back, pulls her running shorts to the side, and clips off about a 10" piece of cable. The turd comes flipping out, glance off her calf and SPLAT! hits the pavement 5' in front of me, giving me just enough time to poopy-hurdle. How many people behind me also had to poopy-hurdle? And that, I think we can all agree is NOT sterile!
There were bushes, occasional port-a-potties, etc. As with the Little Pisser From Texas, spend 10secs, save your dignity.

Yes, I'm haunted still. The meds help.

-bobo

I am without words. Too bad I'm a visual person... That's an image I won't get rid of anytime soon.

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bobo wrote:

2. In Kona '93-ish, I had a little trouble at the 1st bike aid station, w/concussion, profuse bleeding, broken helmet, broken seat stay, the usual. So when I start the run, I'm behind a bunch of pro chicks. I'm catching up to one on Alii Dr. at about mile5, crowds lining the street, children cheering, lovely family atmosphere, when this chick (in mid stride) reaches back, pulls her running shorts to the side, and clips off about a 10" piece of cable.

-bobo

I need some clarification please. Was this 10" in diameter or 10" in length?
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Do I have to keep re-living this trauma for you sickos? I still see the tumble, all in slow motion...

Length, man, length! Ten inch long Baby Ruth. (I can't eat those anymore either). But no nougat filled "thunk" when it hit the pavement, total "Splat".

-bobo


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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [turningscrews] [ In reply to ]
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It is only sterile for the person who produces it as it harbors the microorganisms, etc. already present in his/her system.
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bobo wrote:
Just read the thread...THE WHOLE THREAD...I'm now just that much dumber.

As a former middling (piddling?) pro, I have a couple of comments, neither too important:

1. I'm from Louisiana, I suppose piss bothers us less than our more genteel Tenn brethren, but had I witnessed the "offense", I would have commented "F#kin' Texas pissies!". Then I would have grabbed a coupla water bottles and diluted the area. This reduces the smell 100% more than internet bitching. Seriously yer Honor, HTFU.

2. In Kona '93-ish, I had a little trouble at the 1st bike aid station, w/concussion, profuse bleeding, broken helmet, broken seat stay, the usual. So when I start the run, I'm behind a bunch of pro chicks. I'm catching up to one on Alii Dr. at about mile5, crowds lining the street, children cheering, lovely family atmosphere, when this chick (in mid stride) reaches back, pulls her running shorts to the side, and clips off about a 10" piece of cable. The turd comes flipping out, glance off her calf and SPLAT! hits the pavement 5' in front of me, giving me just enough time to poopy-hurdle. How many people behind me also had to poopy-hurdle? And that, I think we can all agree is NOT sterile!
There were bushes, occasional port-a-potties, etc. As with the Little Pisser From Texas, spend 10secs, save your dignity.

Yes, I'm haunted still. The meds help.

Bobo, man I am a huge fan of yours have been for years.....we first met back in Texarkana, Texas in the 90s. Later I finished the Holy Toledo Tri you directed at Toledo Bend Lake (year we had the storm of the century during the race).....hardest damn triathlon I have ever done, including a several Half and Full IM....that thing was great, very sorry to see it go away. My favorite recollection of the Holy Toledo is the pre-race meeting the night before, you may have had a few cold beverages, not sure, but in any event during your explanation of the run course, you eventually gave up describing the turns and twists and ended with "Awe Hell, just go out about 5 miles and turn around and come back...." it was great.

I am appropriately chastised by your post regarding the Pisser, and will attempt to HTFU.


-bobo

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bobo wrote:
Do I have to keep re-living this trauma for you sickos? I still see the tumble, all in slow motion...

Length, man, length! Ten inch long Baby Ruth. (I can't eat those anymore either). But no nougat filled "thunk" when it hit the pavement, total "Splat".

-bobo

This thread just keeps on giving. I near split my side laughing!
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Big Duke Six] [ In reply to ]
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He's a pro when racing at the highest level you can't see straight at the time of the race. I still think he should have made a better effort but he's racing at all out at the top level. Pro's need more respect in this sport.
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [triguy12] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry, he's a pro triathlete not a 4 week old puppy.

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bobo wrote:
Just read the thread...THE WHOLE THREAD...I'm now just that much dumber.

As a former middling (piddling?) pro, I have a couple of comments, neither too important:

1. I'm from Louisiana, I suppose piss bothers us less than our more genteel Tenn brethren, but had I witnessed the "offense", I would have commented "F#kin' Texas pissies!". Then I would have grabbed a coupla water bottles and diluted the area. This reduces the smell 100% more than internet bitching. Seriously yer Honor, HTFU.

2. In Kona '93-ish, I had a little trouble at the 1st bike aid station, w/concussion, profuse bleeding, broken helmet, broken seat stay, the usual. So when I start the run, I'm behind a bunch of pro chicks. I'm catching up to one on Alii Dr. at about mile5, crowds lining the street, children cheering, lovely family atmosphere, when this chick (in mid stride) reaches back, pulls her running shorts to the side, and clips off about a 10" piece of cable. The turd comes flipping out, glance off her calf and SPLAT! hits the pavement 5' in front of me, giving me just enough time to poopy-hurdle. How many people behind me also had to poopy-hurdle? And that, I think we can all agree is NOT sterile!
There were bushes, occasional port-a-potties, etc. As with the Little Pisser From Texas, spend 10secs, save your dignity.

Yes, I'm haunted still. The meds help.

-bobo

This is probably one of the best stories I have read all year. I'm glad I came back to this thread.

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He's a pro when racing at the highest level you can't see straight at the time of the race. I still think he should have made a better effort but he's racing at all out at the top level. Pro's need more respect in this sport.

People who piss themselves in public lose my respect more often than gain my respect.
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Is peeing while on the bike a rules violation? Just curious

Not sure anyone answered this question, I don't know the answer and I am also curious. Peeing on the bike seems widespread and accepted, but is it a violation of any rule?
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Paula Radcliffe did this in front of BBC cameras at the London Marathon in 2005. She ran 2h17m. Weight matters...

in running..
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WTH??? That's it??? Seriously disappointed in how this ended. Hopefully this will at least make a good t-shirt for TRS.
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OK, I confess. I did not read the ENTIRE thread.

I volunteered in the T1/T2 change tent at Kona last week. We were given specific instructions about anyone, including pros peeing short of involuntary loss of control, and that was to report them and they could be disqualified. There was a set of urinals/troughs in the mens tent, all they had to do was walk forward 10 feet and stand there. (I only saw that prior to the race, not during!)

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SingleThreat wrote:
runnerwv wrote:
Is peeing while on the bike a rules violation? Just curious

Not sure anyone answered this question, I don't know the answer and I am also curious. Peeing on the bike seems widespread and accepted, but is it a violation of any rule?

Peeling on the bike is a yellow card (warning)
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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [Run For Money] [ In reply to ]
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Run For Money wrote:
SingleThreat wrote:
runnerwv wrote:
Is peeing while on the bike a rules violation? Just curious


Not sure anyone answered this question, I don't know the answer and I am also curious. Peeing on the bike seems widespread and accepted, but is it a violation of any rule?


Peeling on the bike is a yellow card (warning)


Seriously? I don't buy that. How could that even be enforced? "You peed....no i didnt...whats that...it's water".
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NeverEnough wrote:
Run For Money wrote:
SingleThreat wrote:
runnerwv wrote:
Is peeing while on the bike a rules violation? Just curious


Not sure anyone answered this question, I don't know the answer and I am also curious. Peeing on the bike seems widespread and accepted, but is it a violation of any rule?


Peeling on the bike is a yellow card (warning)



Seriously? I don't buy that. How could that even be enforced? "You peed....no i didnt...whats that...it's water".

yes, it's a yellow card. they stop you and mark your bib with p.

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Seriously? I don't buy that. How could that even be enforced? "You peed....no i didnt...whats that...it's water".

I mastered the 'arc' in Chattanooga. I think someone posted a How to pee like a Pro video on FB. Roll short leg up, end out, boom, I was pee free and dry as a proverbial bone. I would not have got away with "it was water". The chick behind me was actually impressed, possibly because she wasn't sprayed with piss kicked up from my tire but possibly because she saw how pleased I was with myself and didn't want to ruin my enjoyment.

As a side note, if you go 'to the left' in the US then you risk actually hitting the marshall so ....something to be careful of.

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Re: Chattanooga Pro Pissing in Change Tent [knighty76] [ In reply to ]
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Paula Radcliffe did this in front of BBC cameras at the London Marathon in 2005. She ran 2h17m. Weight matters...

in running..

Like a pro ......

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My endured trauma event looked nothing like that...

Well done P. Radcliffe.

-bobo


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NeverEnough wrote:
Seriously? I don't buy that. How could that even be enforced? "You peed....no i didnt...whats that...it's water".


I mastered the 'arc' in Chattanooga. I think someone posted a How to pee like a Pro video on FB. Roll short leg up, end out, boom, I was pee free and dry as a proverbial bone. I would not have got away with "it was water". The chick behind me was actually impressed, possibly because she wasn't sprayed with piss kicked up from my tire but possibly because she saw how pleased I was with myself and didn't want to ruin my enjoyment.

As a side note, if you go 'to the left' in the US then you risk actually hitting the marshall so ....something to be careful of.

Wouldn't happen to have a link to that video you're talking about?
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No, I had a quick google but couldn't find it amongst a host of others!

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If it makes you feel any better, the RD at Miami 70.3 mentioned, specifically, during the professional meeting that "relieving yourself anywhere other than a porto potty is a DQ offense" or something close to that.

I suppose that shows IMs stance on the pissy subject.

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I believe the Real Starky is trying to interview the culprit. Can't imagine what they will talk about.
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Jaymz wrote:
NeverEnough wrote:
Seriously? I don't buy that. How could that even be enforced? "You peed....no i didnt...whats that...it's water".


I mastered the 'arc' in Chattanooga. I think someone posted a How to pee like a Pro video on FB. Roll short leg up, end out, boom, I was pee free and dry as a proverbial bone. I would not have got away with "it was water". The chick behind me was actually impressed, possibly because she wasn't sprayed with piss kicked up from my tire but possibly because she saw how pleased I was with myself and didn't want to ruin my enjoyment.

As a side note, if you go 'to the left' in the US then you risk actually hitting the marshall so ....something to be careful of.

If you race in the states, it is a lot easier if you "dress to the right" so you can go off the side of the road. If you are naturally a "leftie" it can be tough especially in bibs.
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Just listened to a podcast interview by the Real Starky with Pro Barrett Brandon, regarding the change tent urination issue in Chattanooga. Mr. Brandon apologized to the volunteers and other competitors, acknowledged pissing in the change tent was a bad decision, but one made in the heat of the competition of his first Ironman event, and says never again. I appreciate Mr. Brandon's comments. I wish him well in the future.

I never received any sort of response from the WTC to my initial inquiry to them about this issue, and prior to the OP on this Forum on October 8. All in all the WTC is an athlete unfriendly outfit in my view.

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bbryant wrote:
All in all the WTC is an athlete unfriendly outfit in my view.

Was that a surprising revelation?

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James Haycraft wrote:
bbryant wrote:
All in all the WTC is an athlete unfriendly outfit in my view.


Was that a surprising revelation?

Not really, just had hoped for an answer to a specific Question.....you would think with the $$$ we spend and the $$$ WTC makes, they could at least answer a specific question or if not then say, we cant answer that question. But no just crickets.

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I don't know if you saw my post above, but it was genuinely amusing when at the pro meeting for Miami 70.3 the race director mentioned that. I am 100% sure it was because of this thread.

So the message was "received." ha

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Paula Radcliffe did this in front of BBC cameras at the London Marathon in 2005. She ran 2h17m. Weight matters...

in running..
I believe having diarrhea while racing is entirely different.
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