This has always been one of my top.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgm7F30EN50

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Dazed and Confused is also pretty credible.

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Damn strait. And x2 on the LOUD. All LZ should be cranked. I have been a headphones guy since the bean bag era. I will also vote for zep's Rock and Roll. That song is just tight, every instrument, every riff, right where it's supposed to be.

Band in its prime, hitting on all cylinders.

My kind of drumming. No fancy solos just solid rhythm through some crazy changes in tempo.

Solid base line too.

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Dazed and Confused is also pretty credible.
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Ah, see? By concentrating on the drums you are opened to the rolling, meandering yet firmly anchored bass line.

Also, keep in mind that Bonham used a single bass drum which on occasion he makes sound like doubles.

And the gaps, the shit he doesn't hit are almost as important as what he does play.

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Lucky!

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And makes for a darned-difficult song to run to, if you try to match your candence with the beat.

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KING OF THE ROAD SAYS YOU MOVE TOO SLOW

Its ok. My favourite drumming by him is fairly basic but it's what draws me to this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOEQTJV_3-w

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"The Rover" grooves pretty hard, too.

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Bonzo was just unbelievable. I could never play like him....at all. The feel is just so difficult to reproduce. The guy just absolutelty grooves. Thanks for posting this song. I'll have to work on it for a while before getting frustrated.

I've always thought of the big three in rock being Peart, Bonzo, and Moon (not specifically in that order), with all three being completely different talents.

If anyone has ever seen the TV show Freaks and Geeks, there was a funny episode where the dad told his daughter's drummer friend that Neil Peart sucked. After arguing a bit, they went to the living room and the dad played him Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich. It was pretty amusing. Lots of great jazz drummers out there, though jazz isn't really my thing.

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Such a great drum sequence (if that's the right word) and also gave us this gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAQCHZpM_3I

twomarks

There are a lot of other Zep songs where the drumming is really good but this one (for me) is done with the music as good or better than any of them. The way it pairs with the bass is just too good.

Other songs not mentioned yet where the drums really make me want to be a drummer are...

Achilles Last Stand

The Crunge

Kashmir

Re: Peart. He's great but I just don't really get into him. He's (sorta) like the drumming equivalent to Steve Vai on guitar.

A drummer who I think goes unnoticed (sometimes) is Stewart Copeland. His beats are just so weird.


I saw a video that he was in a while back (can't remember what it was even about). It was just him playing the drums for Walking on the Moon and it took me a minute or two to even recognize there was a beat there and I didn't know what song it was until they laid the rest of the music over it.

Jazz? Yeah, I don't know enough about it.

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Don't forget to strap on the headphones and listen to some Tool drumming sometime.

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I was going to mention Tool. Thanks.

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Not much to it, honestly, but Max Weinberg sounds like an airplane waiting for takeoff in "Candy's Room"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pku_NPaWTY8

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Not much to it, honestly, but Max Weinberg sounds like an airplane waiting for takeoff in "Candy's Room"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pku_NPaWTY8
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Listen to it again. It isn't "fairly basic". That's the one of the things about Bonham. On the surface a lot of his stuff sounds basic. Listen to Levee with headphones and just listen to the drums. He's got this triple bass hit going (remember he's only using one bass drum) that is unreal and incredibly difficult. He recorded that "live" in a stairwell with the mic a couple floors above him, btw.

Boom tis bap
tis
boom boomboomboomtis bap tis

boom tis bap
tis…
boom boomboomboomtis bap tis

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All I know is that the first time I heard the song about three bars into it I thought 'this song is awesome'. That isn't normal.

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John was a phenomenal drummer, however, I think Ian Paice is technically a better drummer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfRHj6Db8co

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfvjAr0v-4

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I remember listening to this track by Rush and thinking "boy, this guy can drum!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCj3oBHSA5M

The title track from Steely Dan's Aja is a good fusion of jazz and rock drumming and it is likely my favorite drum track of all time. Story goes that Steve Gadd nailed it on the first take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGmB7Jksl5k

Never, ever gets old.

I never knew "Hollywood Nights" used 2 drummers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1-3M9nzg7U

I also never knew that the song was inspired by a picture of Cheryl Tiegs

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I remember reading once that Bonzo used to get the heaviest sticks he could find and lined the insides of everything in his kit with tin foil so that in his words "it sounded like cannon fire".

Re: Copeland - very unique style but very tight and crisp. Another that I'm a fan of is Pete Thomas who was Elvis Costello's longtime drummer with the Attractions and many of his other collaborations.

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You should see him playing with Les Claypool & Trey Anastasio in Oysterhead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV6uIhmVX1U

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Bonham was amazing, he's what drove me to listen to Zeppelin, and the fact that we're still talking about him all these later, says a lot about his talent.

First, I am not comparing these guys to zep. Anyway, I am liking the drum line on this new one.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ip1irYWXck

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Clem Burke was on the short list to replace Keith Moon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g76Rju5-U40

< gotta admit, he's got the Moonie act down >

He even helped out Pete on some demos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRI8TMukkwc

How they picked Kenney Jones, confuses me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnHLgxKUsEA

< he always looked like there was an ejection seat under him, and he was gonna get popped out at any second >

But Zac ... OH MY!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsmBT8GqUnc

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Moby Dick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-42mu1D9Y


THIS is the best ever laid down.

I trying to keep solos out of this.

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Any Tom Sawyer love?

+1 on all the Bonzo comments!

May I also recommend you listen to a band called The National. Outstanding drumming, at least to my untrained ear.

Like I said earlier, Neil Peart is obviously talented but lacks a certain quality I can't quite explain. But if you're into his stuff it's really hard to beat Spirit of the Radio.

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This is a classic from 1966; The Ventures live: Wipe Out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8__EwAT8VM

Good, but it's John Paul Jones that steals that track ;) . It is one amazing bass track. [admittedly I don't know enough about percussion to tell a great drum track from a good one, even if my BIL is a drummer for the USMC]

Well, that's the thing. JPJ was improvising the bass throughout the whole song but he was feeding off the drums. I think what a lot people miss about Zep is that JPJ and Bonham were really the meat of the band that allowed Plant to wale away and Page to jam. Honestly, Page's guitar work is fairly sloppy. The bass/drum combo was so tight it held it all together. I heard somewhere that when Bonham died, JPJ basically just said "it's over." And that was the end of them.

But yeah, totally agree. The bass is pretty fucking awesome in that song.

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Duffy, that is a good one in your OP.


I remembered this discussion of bass and drums from almost two years ago as I just listened to La villa strangiato.

Yeah, I know you are not really into Neil Peart, but it's awesome.

And listening to it on youtube doesn't really cut it (for any good music). Gotta pull it up at least on CD, vinyl, or spottily premium 320 kps.

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Good stuff and I like Rush.

Neil Peart…

I see him the same way I see Steve Vai.

They are both extremely talented……technicians.

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Tim "Herb" Alexander really sucked with Primus


My Name is Mud: http://www.youtube.com/...pVMyENls&t=1m36s


Jerry Was a Race Car Driver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrqihOMIb7s&list=RDxIrKLbXS6bg&index=3


Spegetti Western https://www.youtube.com/...MyENls&t=28m18s#


Tommy the Cat (feat. Jay Lane) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMsJlJdWof8


Jay Lane doing "John he Fisherman" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4RviP_YkE

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Also,

Journey https://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StcIAYyzpqk

Genesis/Disturbed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBYU-aDXr6c


and can't forget to mention my favorite drummer: Yonrico Scott!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcSBS250pfA

I appreciate the drumming on the Lemon Song more today than I did two years ago. I still like Levy better.

Carry on.

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Billy Cobham !

Remember seeing him at the Boulder Theater, I think he was playing with Bob Weir.

This is better:

https://vimeo.com/156509577

Tools Danny Carey has been mentioned but specifically "Ticks and Leaches"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RelR85j09XY

If you search for any of the covers you'll actually see just how technical and challenging the drumming is.

Did anyone ever pay attention to drum solos before "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida,"?

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"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do."

My declaration of John Bonham's drumming on The Lemon Song being the best rock and roll drum track ever laid down isn't entirely based on technical prowess. In fact, technique has hardly anything to do with it. It's one of the reasons it's so good. You don't even think of drumming technique when listen to it. He's not shredding on the drums with a back up band. He's in a band and, along with JPJ, making it all hold together.

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Yeah. Good point and now that you've pointed it out, I agree.

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The guy from Green Day is not bad.

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My favorite part of that one is still the closed Hi-hat; the way he whacks that makes it sound like he's beating on a high-pitched garbage can lid... Like you said, he does maybe the best job of anyone at combining sophisticated chops in kind of a 'low-tech' wrapper. I dig me some Black Dog, too. That and Whole Lotta Love ~ one thing I notice in common with him and both Peart & Copeland is how they'll play their straight rhythm beats in alternating patterns every other bar (or more) instead of the same backbeat every bar.

Peart is bad-ass in his own way; gotta be the crispest, tightest mofo ever. Tom Sawyer is certainly the stronger overall piece of work, but YYZ is like the ultimate case of a band just showing off because they can.

Edit: my other fave drummer is like the anti-Peart... Nick Mason from PF. He's the absolute master at the most laaaaaid back beats ever ~ the fills on 'Fearless' are so languorous and dreamy it feels like he's about to fall asleep. Even when they're cooking on 'Hi' (by Floyd standards) like during the guitar solo from Time, Nick is still working way late on the back half of the beat which gives it all a little deeper groove against the soaring guitar.

Spirit of the Radio
Red Barchetta

Mo bedda.

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wont get fooled again

Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater.

Carter Beauford from Matthews.

People already said Neil.

JB has first-in vigorish, but he's not in the top 5 for me (a technically-trained jazz and rock teacher and performer).

Names that should never be mentioned in this list but frequently are: Lars and Ringo. They both blow chunks, and chunks isn't even that cute.

The Who sucks.

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Meh. No soul. Even less soul than Peart.

Blow me.

And we've all agreed that he has no soul.

Agree.

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Ticks and Leeches by Tool..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RelR85j09XY

Lots of great drumming across various albums....

The thing I like about him is the technical aspect and he is a total percussionist. He can play anything in the family and often incorporates them all in his solos. While Bonham probably was as well it just wasn't part of their music as it is part of Rush's.

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I have nothing against Peart and recognize that he's an extremely good drummer. I just think Bonham works better in a band situation than Peart.

It's like Rush, because they only have 3 members, has little dick complex so they felt they had make a huge sound. Whereas another 3 piece band (with huge cocks), The Police, embraced their numbers and made minimalist music (with another great drummer, Stewart Copeland).

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I didn't take it as a criticism of Peart's work and understand your liking of Bonham and don't disagree. I do believe there is a lot of soul in Bonham's work and lack of it in Peart's. You have more than effectively stated your position of Peart's ability, I was only stating I really enjoy the technical aspects of his work, similar to watching a drumline stick work.

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I do to, and air drum every time I listen to Rush.

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I'm one hell of a steering wheel drummer.

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Tool has so many complex layers to their songs but yeah, their drummer is soooooo good.

There are times where I can't listen to the originals on Led Zeppelin. Like the album version of Kashmir for instance. How they recorded it annoys me, I think they used spacial expansion on the drum track, and it sounds bad to me. Just my opinion.

With that, I love Jason Bonham's version of Kashmir on Celebration Day. He plays this quite well, there is a lot of expression, and synergy as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD-MdiUm1_Y

Even on YouTube the recording quality and the feel comes through. He plays it differently, and uses two different splash cymbals which gives a nice feel. If I remember correctly, his father only used one splash in this.

I'm resurrecting this thread to recommend a documentary I just watched on Netflix: Beware Mr. Baker.

I haven't reviewed this thread to see if Ginger Baker was mentioned. I wasn't a fan of the artwork/animation in the beginning of the show but stuck with it and ended up giving it five stars. Just a fascinating story about a man. Compelling story on its own, but a must watch for any fan of drummers. (Calling BarryP)

Listening to some The Cream right now. I'm not someone who normally notices the drumming (I'm a guitar guy), but I paying attention now, I have new found appreciation for Ginger Baker.

On a technical note, for the two cream songs I listened to Sunshine of your Love and Tales of Great Ulysses, I was not pleased with the recordings (Clapton CD compilation). Drum track is only in left channel and guitar in right. That diminishes drums, at least in with my set-up. Put in CD of Lemon Song and it was better as drums were in both tracks (more left I think).

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I like "Blackened" . Even though its mainly bass and snare , Lars kills it. Imo

Peart also wrote the vast majority of the lyrics to Rush songs, including all of the mythological stuff from the 70s, so the guy is definitely creative.

Love both Peart and Copeland - for the reasons mentioned above. Peart - supreme technician, plays frickin' ever percussion instrument ever invented, foundation of the "wall" of sound that Rush creates (some like that, some don't). Copeland - much more jazzy, funky, cool, whatever...but also a good technician. And he writes some decent lyrics, too.

Both Peart and Copeland (and others) make brief appearances commenting on Ginger Baker in the documentary I referenced a couple of posts above. Peart refers to Baker as his inspiration when he was 14.

Fans of Bonham and Moon, probably wouldn't appreciate Baker's view of them, nor Clapton's.

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Comparing the greatest drummers is like comparing the top craft beers from multiple styles and trying to name a winner. I don't know how I'd describe Carey's style, beyond the overall music genre, but I'd put him in the top tier with Bonzo, Moon, Ringo, et. al. The guy is just a flat out percussion genius.

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Yes, Agree classic.

Out of the comfort zone, do not remember Boulder Theater next to Pearl St. Mall - Billy Cobham 20 minute Solo mind blowing, or my mind was already blown.

Muse, saw them last year in Germany, the Drummer crushed it.

Seeing Muse in Mountain View in September. Can't wait.

I agree, and yet I don't think I've ever heard live Zeppelin where they didn't sound like absolute shit.

This is an outstanding documentary. I found it amusing how ginger had contempt for bozo when people mentioned him as a quality drummer.

Tales of brave Ulysses is great. I once dropped acid along the mighty Columbia. I spent a good portion of the evening wading in the river eating sea grass with tales of brave Ulysses playing in my head. Great song.

A drummer that doesn't get the respect he should is Bill Ward of Black Sabbath. Look up Gypsy on the Youtubes.

I only made it 20 posts in, then found this. Totally distracting.

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That's funny, I just made a mental note of that guy's skills. I've been listening to Ozzie's Boneyard a lot lately.

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Still love to listen and watch Joe Morello

He is one of the commentators in the Ginger Baker documentary I referenced above.

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I'm ten months late responding to this. But I got the urge tonight to start playing "Message in a Box" the complete recordings of the Police. Also I've been reading the story in notes accompanying this four CD box.

Copeland, Summers, and Sting worked their butts off to get their success. They had released their first album pretty much gone nowhere. Roxanne and Can't Stand Losing You did nothing. Then Copeland's brother sent them on a tour of the USA, playing college towns for $200 a night, carting their gear themselves, all sleeping on one motel room. Then a year after releasing the album, after the touring, in 1979 Roxanne hit the charts in the US. The song was re-released in the UK and then "Can't Stand Losing You" and both became hits.

And that is just the middle of the story, with each of the trio having quite a story before the band formed.

Copeland and co, earned their success and are talented and good.

But have you watched the Rush documentary?

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I didn't know there was one and I'm not really interested in watching a Rush doc.

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I've mentioned it elsewhere, if not in this thread. Rush: Beyond the Lighted Stage. Watch it with your son.

Not a big Rush fan? Well are you a fan of decent people? Do you watch stories about decent people with your son? I connected with my son -- older than yours -- with this show. It is an interesting story, about interesting guys. But above all it tells the story of two guys who were best friends in high school, formed a band, made it big, and remain best friends -- and seemingly normal geeks -- today. It includes interviews with the guys -- ready for this -- parents. Even a grinch like you would have to smile a bit watching that. One of the guys goes through a dark phase -- maybe you can relate -- and comes out.

Nevermind. Watch a superhero fantasy with your son or show him one of your favorite pornos.

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I like Rush. I'll check it out.

No need to get your panties in a wad.

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On the other hand(s)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4VuUBI5gtw

Here are the drummers in order of performance:
Martin Chambers 3:57
Roger Taylor (Queen) 4:09
Cozy Powell 4:21
Stewart Copeland 4:33
Zak Starkey 4:45
Carl Palmer 4:58
Mark Brzezicki 5:10
Mark Brzezicki and Zak Starkey -- outro

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I retract my comment

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Speaking of Keith Moon [paranthenically, perhaps] ...

Not sure how y'all might feel about mashups, but this is alternately brilliant and horrifying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EiDmsaDT9Q

Eye and ear bleach may be required

YMMV

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I loved that album from Daltrey, had several good tracks including After the Fire and Move Better in the Night. For the title track and the drum solos at the end, Copeland's is so distinct from the other's with that crisp unique sound of his. Also like Martin Chambers' lead-off, he's another one of my faves who I've always felt never got the credit he was due.

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ALSO, I know that when I was younger, we would often raise a stink when some chump [or "silly girl"] referred to "Baba O'Riley" as "Teenage Wasteland"

Little did we know then, that there WAS a "Teenage Wasteland" sitting in Pete Townshend's demo vault

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzrtN0C3YiU

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Interesting. BTW, the movie that it is referencing is Quadrophenia for those who may not have heard of it. Its actually a decent movie.



On a side note, I'm working on learning Won't Get Fooled Again, which is IMO the best drum track ever written. I recorded it a few years ago, but I'm a better drummer now and want to do it again.

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The scooters kinda gave that away, Barry

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I'll add I'm a big fan of Matt Cameron. He's done such a wide variety of stuff. The track from Jesus Christ Pose always gets stuck in my head. Reptile (Skin Yard) had a cool non-standard time signature. And he's done other stuff like The Wellwater Conspiracy that's not in the grunge category.

Jesus Christ Pose:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HygUFfiHDLE

Reptile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw4QRG1F0dc

"Quick!!! Name the members of Pearl Jam!!!"

"Eddie Vedder, duh, ... Stone Gossard, Jeff Ament ... um ... oh, Mike McCready ... and ... and ... the drummer?"

They've had a few, so that's kinda fair

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Jack Irons, Matt Cameron, ummmmm...

Heh anyhow I mentioned Cameron's other work because I don't think he really stands out in Pearl Jam.

Dave Krusen, Matt Chamerlain, Dave Abbruzzeesse.

Listen to Topper go

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I like Hot For Teacher - Van Halen - 1984

Not the most technical but its fun as hell!

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I just saw this the other day:




I know nothing about drums, but this documentary was awesome! I know in the thread it is mentioned Bonham played off the base or the latter when according to this, he plays of the guitar which is what makes him so unique. Again.. I know nothing about drums,, but this was awesome!

Thanks for that video, I was one of the lucky ones that got to see him live. Dude had a major hard on for Bonzo, can't imagine what an hour show would have been. Felt like I was back in music class.(-:

Carey is on another level. But for straight rock and roll drum tracks, I'm going with Hot For Teacher. It's probably on the shit end of technically good drumming, but it's just what that song needs, and that song kicks ass.

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Good drumming performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iywaBOMvYLI

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Awesome. Thanks for that. Fool in the rain was always one of my favorites. Gonna spin it right now as remnants of Irma are bringing rain to me here in Alabama.

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