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Falco V - First consumer build
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...that I am aware of. Poor lightying, but that's the nature of building bikes at night.

Rear brake no longer uses the TTV (which is a loss IMO, but helps with the widest rimmed wheels. It will take a Tririg Omega SC, but only with electronic shifting, as the brake covers up the cable entry point under the BB.









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What's your take on the frame, tube shapes and quality? Are yoou planning on chunging it?
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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I'm definitely curious as to your opinions on how it rides and if you feel like you're converting power during hard efforts (or if the frame lacks that kind of stiffness).

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I'm definitely curious as to your opinions on how it rides and if you feel like you're converting power during hard efforts (or if the frame lacks that kind of stiffness).

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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Is that the medium size frame. Mine is on the way. Do you mind listing details of your chosen components?
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Runless] [ In reply to ]
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Quality is excellent. Build went perfectly without any need to modify little bits for fitment.

I like the shapes overall. It's atually a bit asymetric like the QR Cd 0.1 where the down tube is shaped differently from one side to the other. The bottle integration is perfect, and of course, the battery compartment makes the cable routing pretty easy.

Not sure I have a good enough course here to get any repeatable data, but I am sure wwe will see a wind tunnel run sooner rather than later.

Chris
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [BoyWithACoin] [ In reply to ]
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In a TT, all that 'converting power' blather is complete nonsense. You are riding on the tip of the saddle where the interface with your body is about 2 square inches. Your pedaling mechanics have way more to do with power to the road than any deflection of the bike frame. The BB is really beefy though.

If anything, I would love a little more give in the frame. So far it looks to only be a few mm of deflection when loaded. Probably closest to a Zipp with worn out elastomers.

Chris
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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I contacted Falco about a month ago to ask about vertical compliance in the frame and they verified that it is indeed only a few mm's. Good estimate ;)
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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I went for the first proper ride today on my Falco V. I've added some photos below but my initial impression of the bike is that it is great.

It looks and feels like a very well made frame. My old TT bike is a Planet X Stealth that's not particularly aero. The Falco V feels is definitely quicker. I haven't tested it properly yet but I ride regularly with two friends who are about my ability. On the faster downhills I'm normally neck-and-neck with one of them. Today I easily left him behind. In fact, I had to ask him if he deliberately braked or didn't pedal, it was that much different.

In terms of feel, its a little more responsive than my Planet X Stealth did. By that I mean that I mean that at the start of the ride I was over-adjusting the steering but by the end of the three hours it felt natural. The other difference, which I noticed a few km in to the ride when the roads got a little worse, was that I could feel the road a lot more through my pedals than normal. It seems strange to say that but the way I imagine it is that on my old bike, my bum and feet feel the same sort of vibrations at the same time. But with the Falco V, my feet felt it more than my bum and so I noticed my feet more. The frame obviously didn't absorb all the vibrations on the bad roads but I did notice a subtle difference. It wasn't uncomfortable or strange or anything, just a little different.

The other thing I liked was looking at my shadow. It felt strange to see a bike with a bit missing.

Putting it together was pretty straightforward. Binny has been great throughout the buying / delivery process.









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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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Is that custom or standard front brake cable routing?



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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [rruff] [ In reply to ]
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That's standard. I'm a Brit who likes the front brake on the right hand side so I drilled a hole on the opposite side at the top (so it still comes out of the same whole at the bottom left). You can see this in the third picture on my post.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [rruff] [ In reply to ]
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Yep, as my fellow Falco rider stated, it is indeed stock, other than a bit of filing here and there to make the cable run smoother, and a custom noodle that helps keep the exposed run to a minimum.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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Looks promising. But how much does she weigh?

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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Thing looks pretty amazing. Congrats on the new ride!
TRP levers are begging to be replaced with SRAM's though ;)

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [RoYe] [ In reply to ]
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No idea. Surely less than any of my Softrides, but it's not a concern for me at all.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [leegoocrap] [ In reply to ]
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I used the TRP's so that I didn't have to use the funky adjustable noodles on the brake side of the equation. I like them well enough.

Chris
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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ahh, it is handy they adjust right on the lever, the SRAMS just look a little smoother.

TRP front and SV back brake?

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [leegoocrap] [ In reply to ]
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sadly, the omega would not work for me because it blocked the cable entry hole where the FD cable goes through. It would work for a Di2 bike though.

Chris
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Dead Keen] [ In reply to ]
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Hi. I have just done a deal with Binny for one of these. Do they come in different finishes. I see yours is a matt finish without the tron paint?

Thx
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [hargrace18] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, I asked for plain black. I'm not sure if Binny is actually doing this one but he may well be able to do a gloss version of black without the tron ...


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So I got my Falco on the road finally !!! this thing is fast
Its s also nearly my dream build (Aero-wise) just need some Aerocranks (I know they don't make much of a difference but from a geeky point of view) and RTC shifters.

Must say top service from Binny at Falco too and great communication and help during the build.

Hey Mods can we may be make this the official Falco V owners thread?

Here she is


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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [thePharaoh] [ In reply to ]
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WOW!

This is badass. Congrats.

How much did the frame cost?
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [TriHost] [ In reply to ]
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Frame set was 3.2k with the early birds offer
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [thePharaoh] [ In reply to ]
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That's not too bad!
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [thePharaoh] [ In reply to ]
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That's absolutely gorgeous. Nice work.



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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Rick in the D] [ In reply to ]
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For those who are interested I have had my falco now for three months and I am wrapped with it! Raced 70.3 honu on it (first falco to race in Hawaii I believe) and it was awesome through the crosswinds!
I ride a large with the seat post at its upper limit and the frame is still crazy stiff, I came from riding a shiv, if I had to choose which one is better in winds, more comfortable and faster I would no doubt say the Falco is the better of the two! I have no doubt you will see more of these bikes at races over the next year, it sure did attract some attention in T1!
If anyone has any questions regarding the build etc let me know as I built mine myself with di2 so I should be able to help out
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Clintred] [ In reply to ]
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Nice bike!

Does it fit in a bike box if you are travelling?
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [beekay] [ In reply to ]
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I have a sci con box and it fit in then a lot easier than my shiv! Was very easy to travel with actually
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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Besides looking bad ass, especially in flat black, what are the benefits of a beam bike?
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [user123] [ In reply to ]
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user123 wrote:
Besides looking bad ass, especially in flat black, what are the benefits of a beam bike?
In theory they are more aerodynamic (though no one has really posted data showing they are better than the top superbikes like P5, etc.), and the beam design should make the ride a little more shock absorbing.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [thePharaoh] [ In reply to ]
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thePharaoh wrote:

Whoa, what is that basebar / brake lever setup? That is seriously BfA. 8.O <3
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [trirms] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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Hi!

The Falco V has also found it´s way to Southern China! Yesterday my bike arrived and Sunday I´m taking it to Hong Kong for it´s first race. I used to ride a TREK Speed Concept - the Falco is very different (!) anything I should be aware of?
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Dead Keen] [ In reply to ]
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Looks great. I'm uk too and want to internalise my brake cable low you have, is the drilling bit easy? Scares me to death to think of doing it!
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Katmouse] [ In reply to ]
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Katmouse wrote:
Hi!

The Falco V has also found it´s way to Southern China! Yesterday my bike arrived and Sunday I´m taking it to Hong Kong for it´s first race. I used to ride a TREK Speed Concept - the Falco is very different (!) anything I should be aware of?

Good luck. Only issue I had when I first took abroad was that I had to take the front brake cable out so that I could get the bars to fit in the bike box. Not a problem if you are happy putting it back and re-doing the brake.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [andyjack12] [ In reply to ]
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Here is my first build, and in trave mode. I race uk time trials, this bike is fast! I'm still keeping my giant Trinity for UCI events but in normal uk TT's this is prefect.

First ride report!

I was honestly sceptical about the claims of the non UCI legal Falco V, about how quick it could be.. If all the claims are right I should get close to Alex Dowsett's 10m competition record! My pb is 18.37, 11th fastest in the UK and 1.17 behind Dowsett, a long way!

Saying all that I was mightily impressed.  My first reservation on set up was that I would not be able to get the excellent position I had on my Giant Trinity.  But the full adjust ability on the Falco means I have nailed it bang on.

First ride the position felt perfect and I was able to get the watts down easily and smoothly, the 3T aura bars allow even narrower settings so I think my front end was more aero dynamic and I have a spirit level flat back!

Immediately on riding the way the bike cuts through the air was noticeable, even into a strong head wind I was cruising at 25mph warming up for no huge effort!
The frame feels very stiff with no flex from the 'beam' at all. It honestly did not feel I was riding something that looks so different! Power transfer was instantaneous, and whilst not the lightest, at just under 8kg, it sprinted up any small inclines no problem. (* strava KOM on a steep climb near Harrogate is a good indicator!)

In the race it accelerated up to 30mph + in no time and easily held it there.  It did suffer to a degree from gusty cross winds due to the amount of frame that is exposed, but the deep Hed front wheel I am running will have added to that, but for me at 78kgs it was easy to control.

In the race not only did I win, by over 1min 30 in a 15m hilly TT. I completed in 31.16 a course record on the V2112 in Yorkshire and only 1min 20 off the national record that was set on a much more favourable day and course.  Always telling is the strava KOM's - I took 1 INTO the wind on a race course (unheard of!) and 6 with the wind, including KOm on a corresponding 10m course runn on that circuit - Not bad in a race 50% longer!

Highly reccomended!

I hope the pic links have worked!? If not can someone tell me why!

Ps, anyone any advice on lowering my front end in this position it would help add I reckon there are a few more watts to be saved.



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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [andyjack12] [ In reply to ]
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Where you guys order the Falco V frame?
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [TriHost] [ In reply to ]
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Steve Griffiths is the UK importer, contact him on stevegriffiths28@gmail.com or 07534262855
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Katmouse] [ In reply to ]
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Just wanted to show by baby off too - very ecxited to see if the Falco can place me in the top 3 in Hong Kong this Sunday in the Olympic Distance. And thanks "Dead Keen" for your reply. I hope I will be able to fit the bike into the suite case - I´m sure I won´t be able to fix the brakes myself!!
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [TriHost] [ In reply to ]
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i can help you in the US my name is terry rouillard64@msn.com ,

we dropped one off last week, and another one next week
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [andyjack12] [ In reply to ]
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andyjack12 wrote:
Looks great. I'm uk too and want to internalise my brake cable low you have, is the drilling bit easy? Scares me to death to think of doing it!
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Yes, it was very easy. I used a narrow bit first of all to make a small hole and then a bigger one, and a bigger one again to enlarge it.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Dead Keen] [ In reply to ]
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Cheers , I sorted earlier, deaf easy and worth the effort!
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [trirms] [ In reply to ]
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It is the USE1 R1 aerobar.

http://www.use1.com/...triathlon/r1-aerobar

though it would be awkward but feel just fine. Still not reached on it though.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [thePharaoh] [ In reply to ]
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A few photos of my falco in Hawaii 3 weeks ago, extremely happy with the bike!!!!!!!
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Clintred] [ In reply to ]
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nice !

Mate did you use the rear brake cover? my LBS did not install it they didn't know what it was.

can you post a photos if you have?
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [thePharaoh] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah I did use the cover, I'll post a photo tomorrow when I pick the bike up from lbs, pretty simple to install the fairing over the rear brake, just one bolt if I remember correctly, this also covers where te cables come out, simple but clever design.... Photos tomorrow
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Clintred] [ In reply to ]
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Clintred wrote:
Yeah I did use the cover, I'll post a photo tomorrow when I pick the bike up from lbs, pretty simple to install the fairing over the rear brake, just one bolt if I remember correctly, this also covers where te cables come out, simple but clever design.... Photos tomorrow

Thanks
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Clintred] [ In reply to ]
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Clintred, what's your seat height? Looks like you can't get any steeper. Correct? I just ordered mine and was between a large and medium and went with the medium. I ride a large drop like you.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Xing triathlete] [ In reply to ]
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I'll get a bb to saddle rail measurement this afternoon, my frame is a large and my seatpost is rather high due to riding 165mm cranks and having looooong legs. I ride a very forward position but there is still room for me to go a little further forward but it would be well over 80 degree seat angle. There is a lot of adjustment in the saddle position due to the sliding rail the clamps are mounted on..... I would be surprised if you can't get you desired position ;-)
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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Hi all! Thought I would get in here and post some pics of my Falco V! I love this bike! It just wants to go, go, go!

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Clintred] [ In reply to ]
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Lots of nice builds, good to see them spreading out around the globe&#128077;
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Clintred] [ In reply to ]
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This is all fun and games but I want to see wind tunnel data.


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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [FitYak] [ In reply to ]
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Damn that looks good. So much better without the Tron Blue. Good work.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Clintred] [ In reply to ]
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Seriously the most fun bike I have ever owned! I am still learning its ways and it never ceases to amaze me. Lately I have been having a blast in the wind. The V has been performing very well with all types of wind from different directions. It feels like I am gliding is the only way I can explain it.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Ironwimp] [ In reply to ]
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I'll volunteer if you have the tunnel! I have been loving this bike in the wind. The aerodynamics are pretty amazing. If I am getting blasted I just tuck my head, lean into the wind, if its really bad maybe throw in the wheel roll to ride it a little bit and then sail forward. Its seriously fun as f^[<!

I am serious about the wind tunnel thing. Set it up and I am there!
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [beston] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks [beston]! I have been working with Falco since October and asked them if they could do mine in matte black. I wanted it to look stealthy and stealth is what was delivered. They have been awesome!
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [FitYak] [ In reply to ]
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Is that an adjustable degree stem? Bike looks badass. How is the stiffness of the frame? Such a weird geometry has got me thinking...
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [masa757] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah they are adjustable stems, anyone who says they notice the frame flexing needs to lay off the hamburgers......... it's very stiff
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Clintred] [ In reply to ]
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What a great Idea! Wish Scott would throw that on the plasma haha
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Katmouse] [ In reply to ]
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Hi - ended up with the fastest bike split (female) and won the race. Yep - I´m VERY pleased with my FALCO. And it fit into the suite case too. Happy days!


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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [masa757] [ In reply to ]
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Its pretty stiff and responsive [masa757]! I am 6 foot (182cm) and 170lbs (77Kg). I ride a medium because I have a shorter inseam and I like a smaller frame for climbing. Since I started riding the FalcoV, my climbing speed has improved. (I am not a hill guy.)
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Katmouse] [ In reply to ]
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Congratulations Katrine! You are so awesome!
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Nice bike and congratulations on your victory!



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Once, I was fast. But I got over it.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [hblake] [ In reply to ]
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Hey guys! All these builds look really awesome! I'm hoping to get my frameset next week :)

Since I'm on a tight schedule to build it and test it before Challenge Roth (July 20th) I am hoping you guys could give me some pointers about the build itself.

Is there any heads up you could give me about special parts I might need, that I could already order now and save some time? I plan on using a mechanical setup (SRAM Red) and the TRP brakes.

If it's a straight forward build, even better :)

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Bluesmobile] [ In reply to ]
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[Bluesmobile]

I have the Mechanical SRAM build. It works really well on the V. Are you on facebook or google+? I can share some pictures with you or video of cable routing to help you out? http://www.facebook.com/ryanalbertolson or https://www.google.com/+RyanOlsonTeamFityak
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [FitYak] [ In reply to ]
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Hey guys, after much anticipation the Falco V finally made it to Germany :)

The frameset arrived last wednesday and a friend of mine and I built it on Saturday in about 6 hours. the build went pretty well. One of the problems was that apparently I can't read. How else could I explain that I didn't notice that this frame has a BB86 and I can't continue using my BB30 crank ;-)? So please excuse the compact crank in the pictures, I salvaged it from my road bike until I find a better one.

I went with the set that included the 3T Auro Pro handlebars and the TRP brakes. I'm running a SRAM Red group with an Ultegra crank (for now) and Planet X wheels. The saddle is a Specialized Phenom.



What the wind sees. Not much ;-)



We went with a Nokon outer hull instead of the aluminium one to get a tighter loop:











Since I'm running mechanical components I didn't use the compartment for the Di2 battery under the aero bottle. So I tried what else I could use it for. Now I have a spare tubular tire with me at all time :)



The first few rides on this thing were incredible. I'm much faster than on my old bike (Planet X Exocet) and it is much more comfortable. I also already trust it much more than my old one. That one was always twitchy and nervous. The V just feels very controllable even in very strong crosswinds.

Now this baby and I are off to Challenge Roth. It is my first iron distance triathlon and even though I've only been on this bike for a few hours I am really looking forward to the bike stage. I think that says it all ;-)

Is anybody else gonna be there with their V by any chance?

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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Built mine up the other day. This is the US PRO TRI team bike. So far it has been great. I have found it to be very easy to adjust and to dial in the right fit. Feel free to contact me with any questions. Also if you are interested in purchasing one email and I can get you some extras.



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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Bluesmobile] [ In reply to ]
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Hi, I'm really in love with Falco V and probably gonna order mine next month to ride it in Ironman Brazil - Fortaleza on November 7. My only concern is related to the size which should I order. What is your size frame ? Looks like a large size...isn't it?
I'm a 179cm long course rider who likes agressive low positions, in your opinion what size should I order?
Thanks
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I am 5'10 and have medium. It fits pretty good, but am going to need a stem that is a bit longer so that I can get lower. I ride with a pretty aggressive position. The good thing with the bike is that it is very adjustable. I typically ride 51-52 size frames (Jamis. Planet-X and Orbea).

Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions. PM me and if you decide to buy and I can get you a few extras.


Thanks

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [FitYak] [ In reply to ]
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FitYak wrote:

That is a nice rocket sled. But 2 comments: the plain version above looks way way better than the ones with the "tron" inspired paint jobs. Falco should do other simple paint schemes too: maybe white, blue, red, silver, whatever. The other thing that seems perplexing: I wonder why the designers made the effort to make all those sharp edges in the carbon surfaces? Because, nearly always, smooth transitions between sides and edges are far more aero.

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looking at Falco V and Trek SC for bike build: Falco looks awesome but wondering for HIM or IM how much water and cal can you fit on this bike while still keeping it aero?
Anyone have any pics or ideas how to load this bike down with 70-80oz of fluid and 1500-1700 cal? This is really my only hold up not getting this frame.

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Any one done a DA 9070 Di2 build? If so any compatibility problems anywhere?

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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Hi, Greg,

Yes I have to agree that in many (probably most) cases, smooth transition is more aero... especially to account for a variety of yaw angles. That being said, there are some instances where edges are more aero... kammtail, being one of them.

In addition, the edges on the V bike are mostly in directions that do not impact the overall aerodynamics. This very point was discussed specifically in the updated white paper and an illustration of the cross sections of the frame was provided. See http://falcobike.com/ttwhitepaper.pdf and (scroll down to Page 6 of 21 in side bar).

As another example, the Nissan GTR, being one of of our generation's most acclaimed (or underrated, depending on who you ask) super car, despite having a worldly "Nissan" brand name, has quite a few edges. Also, Lambos never had any trouble for having edges and being fast.

Regards,
Binny @ Falco Bike

DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
FitYak wrote:


That is a nice rocket sled. But 2 comments: the plain version above looks way way better than the ones with the "tron" inspired paint jobs. Falco should do other simple paint schemes too: maybe white, blue, red, silver, whatever. The other thing that seems perplexing: I wonder why the designers made the effort to make all those sharp edges in the carbon surfaces? Because, nearly always, smooth transitions between sides and edges are far more aero.

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Brendan -- if you do not run Di2, then you could leave the battery lid off, and put lots of stuff in there, you may have to tape the gels to the opening... Only catch, you may need to hold the bottle w/ your teeth while reaching for the gels and what not...


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I have done a di2 build, zero problems doing so, the mechanic who helped said this was one of the easiest bikes he has worked on
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [threefire] [ In reply to ]
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Could you design a storage unit that would replace the bottle cage and fill in that area to store ones fuel and spares kit. If I was to get your frame, I would most likely have a Sitero saddle with a behind the saddle bottle and would also be using a BTA system upfront. So I would then need to have somewhere to store gels and my spares kit. I think you could come up with a very aero set up that would mirror the lines of the bike and almost look seamless. Rubber top with a slit in it so that you could just reach in and grab on the go. That would give you a very aero storage unit that would look like a part of the bike.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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Absolutely. That's the plan... Should be pretty handy and more aero than the bottle w/ no UCI rules to worry about.

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [threefire] [ In reply to ]
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Great minds think a like. I really like that idea and if it is more aero that would even be better. I know that TRP/Tektro have new brakes, is there any plan to incorperate the newer style brakes into the front end to hide the cable better. I do however like the one build with the Nokon's as that seems to do a much better job than the noodle.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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fantastic idea!

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If Falco is going to make something that fits extremely well and is more aero, then YES PLEASE! But of course I see your point.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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Kind of like a Spesh Fuelcell...
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [TriathlonKid] [ In reply to ]
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BUT more integrated and more aero I would assume but yes along the same lines but just not as big and UGLY!
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [threefire] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Binny,

While I understand your point, I think that the examples of the combustion engine cars are not the best, as most of them have a lot of power to spare. And 'top speed' is usually not the main purpose of most race cars, 'superior handling at speed' is. But if you look at things that must be highly aero and also super efficient, you see no sharp lines at all (except at trailing edges of course):



Plus, if you closely look at the fastest superbikes in the world (the ones that actually test fastest in the tunnel and on the road), they are all extremely smooth on their sides, as is necessary to minimize drag. So, I am curious, what made Falco add all of the sharp edges?

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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Total Highjack here but will your PROJECT X AEROBARS be totally slippery and no sharp edges?
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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ooooh don't get me started about my Fuel Cell.

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [nebeachbum] [ In reply to ]
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I think you should bring up issues in this thread so that Binny can see what the issues are and avoid making the same ones and provide everyone with a better product.
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BMANX wrote:
Total Highjack here but will your PROJECT X AEROBARS be totally slippery and no sharp edges?

No worries, good question. Our aerobars will not be any more aero than good aerobars. But they will have some very significant functional advantages.

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [nebeachbum] [ In reply to ]
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nebeachbum wrote:
ooooh don't get me started about my Fuel Cell.

What about your fuel cell? Does it not work to your satisfaction? If so, how?

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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Fuel Cell is a tough one because i am not really sure how else they could have done it with the tight space in that area of the frame. Its very hard to keep stuff in the bottom of it (i am sure plenty of people here would agree and disagree with me) due to shape i end up normally just keeping no more a spare tube in there with levers and Co2 taped to seat post. The top portion of it has to be taped down during races (i don't stress this to much in training) to avoid it pooping up a little and creating more drag: its rather unsightly with tape as well. Top portion is not bad: I can store tool wrench kit in, keys, and about 3-4 gels. Have to tape over the holes in bottom of it so gels don't leak all over the spare tube (i don't litter). I don't love it and i don't hate it. I have friends that own the Fuel cell and have taken it off in favor of just running water bottles with needed supplies packed in. In comparison to my friend who rides a SC series 9 back draft box is huge and front storage is easy to get to and stores more stuff.
Nice to have storage for those 100 + mile training rides. So whenever I look at a bike I look at storage capacity. A lot of bikes look awesome and aero but when you start having to tape stuff everywhere for training rides/races just defeats the point.

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [USPro Tri] [ In reply to ]
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I think the Falco has to be the coolest looking thing i have seen in yrs and want to love it but looking at practical side of it to. If i could afford two 10+k bike i would be buying frame tomorrow. Would love to see some wind tunnel test data still!

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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As a past Softride owner, I am just curious how does it compare to the old Softride? Any similarities/ differences?
Thanks...
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [nebeachbum] [ In reply to ]
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There is wind tunnel data!
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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snap really, thought it was just on the Diamond bike? no?

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [softrun] [ In reply to ]
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The beam is stiffer than a Rocket, though there is still some give, and it makes a huge difference in comfort.

From a comfort perspective, nothing will ever compete with a classic softride beam, but this is a really fast bike that does have some give.

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [nebeachbum] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry I should rephrase my comment (should really be working) but there is a white paper on this frame and an updated white paper which Falco can supply you.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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Well, yes and no. Super cars have to be aero but they also need downforce for better handling. The MB G-class for example, simply isn't aero at all and pretty slow despite it's rather powerful engine (G63AMG -- 5.5 V8, 544hp, Top speed 210km/h (130mph)). In fact the Nissan GTR went through a tremendous amount of R&D on its exterior aerodynamic design alone. The process is making the car FAST, and then adding bells and wistles to add down force. In other words, any sacrifice in aero must be fully utilized to generate down force (and not just wasted because you have horsepower to spare).

That being said, aerodynamics is a complex science that no one can generalize it by saying pure smooth roundish surface is the most aero. Some widely accepted counter-examples include:

- Kamm tail
- Golf ball pits on the most successful aero wheel of our generation -- Zipp
- BMC's tripwire design
- Kline¨CFogleman airfoil

In fact there are various tripping mechanisms around aerodynamic designs. These are just a few that jumps to mind.

On this bike, as you can see the edges are more noticeable on the drive side, on top of an asymmetrical down tube (further to the right), this is in light of the front derailleur, the moving crank, and legs. A slightly earlier separation doesn't really hurt you given the various pieces on the drive side. On the NDS, on the other hand, the edges are hardly even noticeable if not for the graphics.

Again, the cross-section chart in the white paper is pretty helpful in explaining this particular point. Nick at Tririg was digging pretty deep on this point and I believe the chart made him happy.

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [threefire] [ In reply to ]
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I'd like to buy one but after a whole week without any response on my mail, I wonder if they still sell these...
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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BMANX wrote:
There is wind tunnel data!

Where?
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Garet Jax] [ In reply to ]
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To those who send me PMs: I geht the message "You're not allowed to send private messages." when trying to answer. Sorry about that.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [drullse] [ In reply to ]
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I'd like to buy one but after a whole week without any response on my mail, I wonder if they still sell these...

kinda pissed too. emailed them got one response a day later. emailed back and that was that.
this about killed my interest.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Bypasskid] [ In reply to ]
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I've been getting replies very promptly (a few hours to a day depending on when I posted it). FYI the email address on the To Purchase page on their website is no longer functional / has been compromised. The one on their contact us page is valid and has been working for me.
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Just built this beauty. Shimano Ultegra Di2 11 speed, Zipp 808 FC (Super 9 for rear when racing), Adamo TT, Bontrager RXL, TRP Brakes. I tried to use the Tririg Omega but it did not fit. Omega requires 51.5mm between posts. My falco was at 48mm. Quarq Elsa with 52/38 Praxis rings. Check out the custom wiring. Can anyone guess how it's done?




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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Xing triathlete] [ In reply to ]
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That's beauty!
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it s beautifull but i wish a company would do it seriously. This look like a batman bike. those shape make no sense other than aesthetic. i would like a proper aero beam bike. I wish softride was still in the game or Zipp for that matter!

Diamond make a interesting attempt but i might have to wait until they come down with a cheap trickle down version of there 5.8k frameset.

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Xing triathlete] [ In reply to ]
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That is a stunning build. Love it.
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Xing triathlete wrote:
Check out the custom wiring. Can anyone guess how it's done?


JC41 x 2 in each extension or in the Basebar near the Levers.

Right JC41 takes Right Shifter, Right Brake, Splitter to Left JC41, with room for 1 more connection (I route mine to Junction A behind the computer.
Left JC41 takes Left Shifter, Left Brake, Splitter, & Connection to Downtube.
You probably had to drill the extensions to wire into the basebar.






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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Katmouse] [ In reply to ]
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Just did my first IM distance on the Falco V. I was quite anxious to see if I was able to stay completely aero on the long distance since I haven´t had the bars raised.

Well, Falco took me all the way ... to Hawaii :)

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I was indeed happy with my bike!

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [andyjack12] [ In reply to ]
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 Hi Andy
Seen you flying on this bike in a few events and it looks fantastic.Only middle of the bunch myself'but just got to have one'sure you know the feeling Andy Just worried about the high stack height on a medium as i ride with a740 mm seat height even being 6ft[short legs] so not sure if i can get low enough.Know they do an adjustable stem but a bit wary of those.Any advice greatly appreciated mate
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Jamaican] [ In reply to ]
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What basebar is that? Is it the Hongfu/PDQ/ADR?

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JulesRapanga wrote:
I've been getting replies very promptly (a few hours to a day depending on when I posted it). FYI the email address on the To Purchase page on their website is no longer functional / has been compromised. The one on their contact us page is valid and has been working for me.
That might explain why I never got a reply to my email to them, but it's not very encouraging that they haven't managed to amend their website in all this time to change the email address on the purchase page to one that will actually reach them.
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Staer wrote:
What basebar is that? Is it the Hongfu/PDQ/ADR?

Yeah that Basebar came stock on the FM069.


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Hi Ryan

Thanks for your reply thats really helped i,ll go for the long adjustable stem.Now the difficult bit,
running it past the boss at home

Best wishes
steve
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [oddey1] [ In reply to ]
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I have a medium size with the short adjustable stem (75mm) and the 3T Aura Pro at the moment. With that setting I do not get as low as I was used to on my old bike. I think with the adjustable stem in the lowest position I reach something like 13cm difference between saddle top and pads.
I will switch to the carbon stem soon. Seems to be more solid and of course does not weigh that much. Additionally I will switch from the 3T Aura Pro to a Felt Devox Aerobar. That should allow me to get about 3cm lower. This way I will reach the 16cm saddle / bars difference I am used to. I never had any problems with riding such a position and it feels very comfortable to me since thousands of km and after several years now. I am wondering a bit, why so many people adjust their stem on the V so high or why they put so many spacers under the bars.

Edit: I am 174cm big and my legs are 84cm.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Jamaican] [ In reply to ]
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How does everyone like that bar setup? I'm considering it for a new build on an NP2.

It seems to have a good combination of adjustability, aero (eyeball, doesn't seem to be any data out there, but if Falco is stocking it, it must be at least ok), looks and price. I got a quote for $235 including shipping. Compared to similar bars that go for $700-1000, this is a steal.

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Staer wrote:
How does everyone like that bar setup? I'm considering it for a new build on an NP2.

It seems to have a good combination of adjustability, aero (eyeball, doesn't seem to be any data out there, but if Falco is stocking it, it must be at least ok), looks and price. I got a quote for $235 including shipping. Compared to similar bars that go for $700-1000, this is a steal.


It works ok for me. Mind you, I'm riding an FM069 & not the Falco V. However, the Basebar is the same & I got the Adjustable Stem aftermarket, because I had issues with the original Flat Stem & the Top Cap bolt.

The X-Z adjustability depends on the Cups that you use. The stock Cups are ok. I think they have 3 width settings & 1 fore-aft setting, both in 10mm increments. They are almost identical to the original Felt Devox Cups. Zipp Cups work well because they are compatible & you can also adjust the width, even more so if you have the Pad Width Extenders. Also, there is probably a 20mm fore-aft range created by just reversing the Zipp Cups, which are approximately 120mm long to begin with.
The Y adjustability can be achieved with risers. From clamp center to the top of the pad is about 65mm in the lowest setting. There is no option to mount the Extensions beneath the Basebar.
There is no option to adjust the tilt of the Extensions, but you can roll them in, as with most other alternatives.

I'm not too thrilled about the cables exiting below the Basebar instead of the rear, but it's not a major issue. The Basebar is made to work with their Stems (similar to how the Pro Missile Basebar matches the curvature of the Missile & Scott Stems). Using the Adjustable Stem, at extreme angles, to get the Basebar level it won't exactly sit flush with the Stem body.

I can't comment on whether or not it's very aerodynamic. Both the Basebar & Risers make use of Airfoil shapes - reminds me of Vision. It also works well with Di2.

That's all I can think of for now.


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Awesome, thanks a lot.

65mm minimum stack is high! Profile Design and Zipp clip ons are 35mm.

Btw you and your bike looked sick at the MSC TO Island race!

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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The sharp edges are made to avoid radar detection, of course.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [glaurung] [ In reply to ]
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Hi

Thanks a lot for your reply, my inside leg is only 81 cm so you have given me a good idea of what i have to do to get a decent fit if i get one.I will definitely need some low stack bars like you
.All the best with your future events

Steve
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Clintred] [ In reply to ]
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Just bought mine , and would like to learn from your experiences getting mine ready if are able to. Mine arrives in week of Xmas lol.


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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [chicanery] [ In reply to ]
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Just adding mine for the sake of it. It's very much overspecced for my ability, but it looks brilliant IMO



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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [JulesRapanga] [ In reply to ]
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The who have travelled with their Falco Vs can you please post how you packed it and what bag/box you used?

I have a Bikeboxalan and it doesn't fit the bike and am looking for an alternative or some guidance if anyone has managed to get theirs in a hardshell bike box.

So far the only bag I think would fit it is the Scicon triathlon bag

any advice?
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [JulesRapanga] [ In reply to ]
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how you like the q-rings?

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [AussieMikeinSD] [ In reply to ]
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and here it is. Now just have to wait for the LBS to open and have the following installed.

TriRig base,
zipp extension w/ R2C,
Power2max w/- Rotor 3d aero & q rings,
Sram
& HED 3 spoke/disk combo wheels.


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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [USPro Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Anybody know if you can ride it on a trainer? I heard you can't - voids the warranty or something. Am I wrong?

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Built this up for a buddy. Ultegra di2, 3T Brezza II stealth black, power2max with Rotor 3d+ 52/36, Dash stage 9 saddle.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [texafornia] [ In reply to ]
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No don't ride it on the trainer. I speak from first hand knowledge from when an acquaintance associated with Softride, SR, when he saw my Softride Power V which is the only carbon SR it wasn't a good idea. As the stresses involved with mounting/dismounting and then any out of the saddle efforts would do similar stress.
Play it safe. Too nice a bike.


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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [AussieMikeinSD] [ In reply to ]
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I am not sure how the stresses on a stationary trainer would even come close to those of riding at speed on the open road and potholes etc.

I know that one of heir sponsored pros rides regularly on a turbo trainer and now here was I told by Falco not to use mine of the trainer.

This gets discussed very frequently on ST and I feel that a bike should be able to cope with trainer rides I am not going to spend a lot on a bike only to have to do my training on another one.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [TriHost] [ In reply to ]
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TriHost wrote:
That's not too bad!


Then he sold to me on ebay for $2550.


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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [texafornia] [ In reply to ]
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You could go with the Sportcrafters Omnium. Fork mount design won't stress the frame. It's a badass trainer to travel with for races. Fits as a carry-on and works great in a hotel room.

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [jlentzke] [ In reply to ]
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Check out the new paint scheme designed for our team. If you like this frame, but are not a TRS Racing member, contact me for details. There might even be a nice discount for you.



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TheRealStarky wrote:
Check out the new paint scheme designed for our team. If you like this frame, but are not a TRS Racing member, contact me for details. There might even be a nice discount for you.


It is cool, but a Falco without a TRON paint scheme is just kinda a silly.
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First off, that is sweet!

Second (looking at time stamp) Starky, do you sleep?

Can't wait to see that being assembled in my basement!
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TheRealStarky wrote:
Check out the new paint scheme designed for our team. If you like this frame, but are not a TRS Racing member, contact me for details. There might even be a nice discount for you.


Check your messages!

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TheRealStarky wrote:
Check out the new paint scheme designed for our team. If you like this frame, but are not a TRS Racing member, contact me for details. There might even be a nice discount for you.

Oh how I want a beam bike!
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That is a nice paint job. Still not sure I'd buy before seeing some data...
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Runless] [ In reply to ]
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Runless wrote:
That is a nice paint job. Still not sure I'd buy before seeing some data...

Hey, I'll tell you what. You can get a good look at a butcher's ass by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather to take his word for it?

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For $4k, I'd rather not take the butchers word for it.
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Runless wrote:
For $4k, I'd rather not take the butchers word for it.

Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and then put some data on it, I will.

I got spare time.

But for now, for your sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.

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Did you have any input on the paint scheme on the bike.

It looks way better than the Tron paint scheme. I really like it.

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What a freaking good movie. Tragic loss to comedy that one. #chrisfaley #zailiNsky auto parts
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Niiiice
Pair with a Sesto Elemento for maximum awesome.




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Screw Falco. I need an exotic sports car sponsor.

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Screw Falco. I need an exotic sports car sponsor.
You'll post the discount code on here for people to bitch about yes?

Dont complain about the results you did n't get from the training you did n't do.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Chri55] [ In reply to ]
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Did you have any input on the paint scheme on the bike.

It looks way better than the Tron paint scheme. I really like it.

That would be me. Black and grey will be matte with a gloss black ghosted "Falco" on the downtube. Red will be gloss as well as the white inside the forks and the chainstay/rear wheel well. I expect a lot of people to be walking around sporting boners in transition when this bike is there,

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Still waiting for the race wheels, but here are a few pics. Detailed post will be up in the coming weeks.










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I like your paint job on this one, the Air Force look is cool...

I see the SRAM crank, I am going with a full SRAM Red 22 set on mine (should have the frame in a few weeks) and I would love to hear how well your component install went.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [eswanson] [ In reply to ]
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I got lucky and am able to test the Ceramic Speed Prototype BB86 to BB30 bottom bracket. It is called the BB4130 and is the only one out there that I know of. I searched to find something and couldn't so emailed Ben and he was able to let me try it. Not sure what your options are if you go with a BB30 Red22 crank, from my research there is nothing on the market.

The brakes were a bit of a pain to install, but the stopping power is really impressive. I was previously on Omegas on my P3 and thought they were good, but man the TRP's (I am pretty sure that is what they are called) are really good! Running Di2 was really easy and I previously had a seatpost battery on the P3. Just put that down in the battery area on the FALCO, wrapped it in foam and then shoved it in there. Other than that no other issues as of yet, some minor install errors on my part but all seems to be good now.

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [@BW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Did you find one of the brakes more difficult to work with than the other?

I'd be interested to see your feedback on that BB4130. Interesting concept, for sure!

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [@BW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Wheels Mfg. makes a BB86 to BB30 set of bearings.

http://wheelsmfg.com/...bottom-brackets.html
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [@BW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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SRAM makes a bb86 to GXP that Binny agrees should work so I can stay out of the bb30 world...
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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Funny enough I actually had problems with the front brake. The spring mechanism gave me the problems. Could me more of my amateur mechanic skills than anything though. I had worked on the brakes on my wifes bike and hated them, but never rode her bike. Once I got them dialed in on the Falco and felt how great they were I didn't mind the maintenance hassle with them.

No problems yet with the BB, works like a charm!

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [@BW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Hi all, been lurking for here for long enough, but just now my first time to post....so my Falco....

Needs a bit of work I know to finish, as has been built with the control box in a silly place by the bikeshop for an aerobike, but I am waiting to get the full thing fitted and work out where the full stem will sit in position. BUT!!! I have a serious problem!!
Can anybody help me with getting in touch with Falco?
This bike has been shipped to me in the UK via the old importer, but has been shipped minus the seatpost wedge!
The guys that sorted the bike for me cannot get any response, and I have no address for them as the emails on the site do not work and so have sent a message through Facebook but have had no reply.
So I currently have my very expensive dream bike that I cannot sit on!
Anybody help please? :-(
Or anyone got a wedge.....

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [P.Uffing] [ In reply to ]
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PM "threefire" on here. Binny is his name and he should be able to help you out.
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [P.Uffing] [ In reply to ]
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Hi, P Uffing -- just sent PM, we will sort this out for you.

BTW, one of the wildest setups I have seen on the Falco. Nice work!

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [@BW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Updated photo, more details of the build coming soon:


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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [@BW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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is there any windtunnel data on this bike yet?

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Binny, thanks for the emails and help so far.

I'm struggling with which frame size to choose so its a shout for help from you and the other Falco 'Twitchers.
I realise both the M and the L could be made to fit but is it better to be on the outer limit of a medium or the lower limit of the large?
Current seat height on my 2009 Felt B2 size 54 (Stack 513mm Reach 414mm 95mm stem raised 5 deg) is 805mm (BB center to top of Adamo PM1.1 saddle) with a 130mm drop to the arm pads. I am 178cm with inside leg of 84cm.

The large frame with its minimum seat height of 770mm looks like the safer option but I'm unsure if it will give me a low enough front end vs being potentially cramped on the medium by not being able to extend the front enough.......
Arrggghhhhh!!!!

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Re: Sizing [DavidUK] [ In reply to ]
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I am 183 and I have the medium for over a year now there is plenty of room for adjustment both ways . if you want to go low I think medium probably best.
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Re: Sizing [DavidUK] [ In reply to ]
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Not falco specific BUT are you sure about your seat height?
I'm also 1,78 on the same frame but with 86 inseam and have my seat from center bb to top at 75,5. Guess your seats too high.

-shoki
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Re: Sizing [shoki] [ In reply to ]
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shoki wrote:
Not falco specific BUT are you sure about your seat height?
I'm also 1,78 on the same frame but with 86 inseam and have my seat from center bb to top at 75,5. Guess your seats too high.

Thank you for the replies Gents.
Shoki, after reading and re reading all the bike fit articles and posts on here I'm not sure I'm even facing the right way on the bike anymore :(
I do like the techy stuff though so will have another look at my seat height.
(Too high?....who'd ve thought that!)

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Re: Sizing [DavidUK] [ In reply to ]
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Inseam x 0,889 brings you near the ballpark. Inseam minus 10,5cm is kinda same result.
With your data you must been straight leged and toespointed down or you have special high cleats.

-shoki
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Re: Sizing [shoki] [ In reply to ]
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Schoolboy error....seat height is "correct", it was how I measured it (following the line of the seat post) that was "wrong".
TBH it never Felt like I was over extending.
Definitely a medium size now.

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [@BW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Oh my! they are nice looking pieces of kit

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [Anth] [ In reply to ]
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Anth wrote:
Oh my! they are nice looking pieces of kit

Here is an updated post with complete details on the build. http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...th%20bomber;#5527842

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Re: Sizing [DavidUK] [ In reply to ]
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Hi, David,

Seat height should be measured from center of BB to top of the saddle ALONG THE SEAT TUBE LINE (which I realize seems to be an oxymoron). Definitely make sure you get that measurement sorted out. Google for "bike saddle height" when in doubt.

For 178mm guy to have a 77cm+ saddle height it does sound to be on the taller side. FYI -- so far people on size M generally fall under 172cm to 183cm (5'7" to 6' for the Yanks). So, without seeing your further stats and side on-bike photo, M seems to be the safer bet, especially since you need a decent amount of drop.

Cheers,

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [@BW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Im looking at getting a Falco. I have a couple questions:

are the TRP brakes the only ones that will fit for the front brakes? No way to get the Omega X in there?

the Omega X brakes will fit in the rear as long as it is an electronic setup? otherwise, only TRP?

can i use any stem/handlebar combo? I'm looking at the new TriRig Alpha X or Zipp Vuka Aero.

Thanks a lot !
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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [rd220] [ In reply to ]
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I am no longer on Falco, but hope this helps:

TRP is only brake for front unless you change the front fork. I used Omega X on the rear, and yes I had Di2, not sure what would happen if you have mechanical, can't remember any reason it wouldn't work. Yes, any stem handle bar comb. I have Alpha Bars and TriRig Stem.

Hope that helps and best of luck with it.

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Re: Falco V - First consumer build [@BW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks a lot. I really appreciate it.
What are you riding this year?
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