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The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread
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So here is a first look and some details of this new bike from Fuji.

http://www.slowtwitch.com/...t_unveiled_3571.html

We will have more tech details tomorrow. Questions?

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Those bars??? Is that a reverse Kamm Tail?

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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The frame actually looks pretty aero with its well shaped head tube. The Oval bars... look at the thickness and cabling running under them.

Have the stack and reach numbers been release yet?
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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2 thoughts: 1/ Why would you choose to install the Shimano battery on the seatpost? That is some valuable real estate, wasted on something you (hopefully) never need to access in a hurry. 2/ I'd hope never to get a rear flat - those chainstay brakes look fussy to get at in the heat of the moment.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Nick_Barkley] [ In reply to ]
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The cabling looks like a rush job, or at least I hope. That looks like a new Oval bar, so you would think that it was Di2 compatible from the base bar.

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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You'd think a bike called a "Straight" wouldn't have that ugly sloped top tube.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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  • I think it looks *so* much better than the D6. Likely more aero too.
  • The bar looks thick. Wonder if it is aero?
  • The cables hanging under the bar don't look so good. I guess they really stand out because they're hidden everywhere else.
  • The battery on the seat post is a bit weird. Let's maybe figure out how to get it IN the seat post.
  • Overall, great stuff from Fuji. I'd ride the heck out of one of these!

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And apparently the D6 ~ P3 @ 0 deg yaw.

Geometry:

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Nick_Barkley] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not seeing any compelling evidence that they've struck on a sizing regime that is any more adaptive than their competitors, wrt this quote:
'Fuji’s development team’s stance is that a stand-alone bicycle that tests well in the wind tunnel, but does not adapt to allow a rider to attain an aero position, enabling their body to produce maximum power, will produce poor results come race day.'


I am pleased that they aren't doing the ridiculously short front-centres that afflicted the small sizes of the D6. But the progression in x,y is not particularly consistent.
A bit disappointing that the release I've being getting annoying emails about for weeks has every model with the same RRP.
The development process appears to be well conceived and the bike overall looks to be a much better effort than the predecessor.


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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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This can't be serious... I mean look at that aero-brick front setup. Cables dangling everywhere and the thickest aerobars I've ever seen (yet not full of cables routed internally)

I like the front brake cable enters the head tube, but why not the rest of the cables also.

Design looks like a transition, though I that design is 6 years old by now. And Fuji did not "update" the design to today's standards. Its like the bizarre child of a Chinese open mould and a Specialized Transition.
What is the battery doing on the seatpost? For a new generation bike you would expect the battery to be hidden.
Where are the opportunities to mount bentobox/computer/BTA bottle/repair kit etc??? All these things have been given a thought on new gen. bikes such as Speed concept, Shiv, new p3 and p5...
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Sawchuck] [ In reply to ]
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I sent a note to Fuji to look at this thread and suggested that a product person / engineer ought to respond to some of these questions. They may be traveling back East today though.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [ZackCapets] [ In reply to ]
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wow, definitely needs another cockpit.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [eigner] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like they took a lot of design cues from the new Orbea Ordu
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [severinj] [ In reply to ]
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severinj wrote:
Looks like they took a lot of design cues from the new Orbea Ordu

If you look at the Fuji Track bike for last year, most of the design components are the same as the Norcom.

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [AlwaysCurious] [ In reply to ]
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AlwaysCurious wrote:
You'd think a bike called a "Straight" wouldn't have that ugly sloped top tube.

Hah, that was my first thought too.

Second thought was "Align your skewers!"
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [stageracer] [ In reply to ]
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Indeed. I was specifically looking at the fork/ top tube integration which looks ordu-esque to my eye. Overall, I like the look.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [eigner] [ In reply to ]
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eigner wrote:
Where are the opportunities to mount bentobox/computer/BTA bottle/repair kit etc???

I found this strange as well. How hard is it really to put top tube bosses?

With the current drag numbers, it would be hard to recommend this bike over something proven like a Trek Speed Concept 7 series or Specialized Shiv.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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Our follow-up article is up:

http://www.slowtwitch.com/...aight_Tech_3572.html

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [eigner] [ In reply to ]
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Wow, eigner is right. Those cables under the aerobars are horrible. You can't help but notice the clumsy battery placement right away, but I didn't recognize the missing bosses on the top tube until others pointed it out. Fuji really didn't pay attention to details.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [eigner] [ In reply to ]
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eigner wrote:
Where are the opportunities to mount bentobox/computer/BTA bottle/repair kit etc?

It's not perfect, but it is a huge improvement over the D6. But, as you might imagine, we're also a bit disappointed with this ^ .

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Wow, eigner is right. Those cables under the aerobars are horrible. You can't help but notice the clumsy battery placement right away, but I didn't recognize the missing bosses on the top tube until others pointed it out. Fuji really didn't pay attention to details.

Theres literally only bosses on the down tube. No bosses on the seat tube even. Thats just silly.

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [wsrobert] [ In reply to ]
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SAme as the D6 (about the bosses).

The more I look at the Norcom, the less in love I am with it.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [SurfingLamb] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like it would make a nice(r) aero road bike than a triathlon bike.
With all the crap that triathletes seem to love to attach to their rigs the lack of a well-thought-out accessories mounting system seems a curious omission.
Crowded marketplace and if it's not priced below the competition I can't see how it'll succeed.

Oh, and that aerobar is utterly hideous. I mean, c'mon.

Nice aero brake integration though.

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Barchettaman wrote:
With all the crap that triathletes seem to love to attach to their rigs the lack of a well-thought-out accessories mounting system seems a curious omission.

I truly won't be surprised if at some point we see a T-Track like mounting system embedded within every friggin tube of a tri bike.


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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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Is the Fuji Norcom Gay going to be a much cleaner, more hip, stylish and fashionable version of this?


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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Post of the year. :D
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Sawchuck] [ In reply to ]
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By the time Shimano announced it's internal battery, we'd already opened our carbon molds and it was too late to change the seatpost and seat tube to accomidate the internal battery. We're already looking how to integrate the Di2 battery somewhere into the frame.

Regarding the brakes, when set up properly with the wider profile rims that are common on the market, you don't need to touch the brakes during a wheel change. Vertical dropouts help simplify wheel changes and something that most Tri/TT bikes don't have.

Thanks for the comments.

Steven Fairchild

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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You need to look beyond our stack and reach figures to understand the adjustability of the cockpit. Yes there are some with greater ranges of stack/reach, but not many with the number of stems and different angles. Plus the Norcom Straight doesn't lock you into a specific bar, you can use any 31.8mm bar in the market which adds to the adjustability of the cockpit.

Thanks for the feedback, Steven Fairchild

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [velothree] [ In reply to ]
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velothree wrote:
You need to look beyond our stack and reach figures to understand the adjustability of the cockpit. Yes there are some with greater ranges of stack/reach, but not many with the number of stems and different angles. Plus the Norcom Straight doesn't lock you into a specific bar, you can use any 31.8mm bar in the market which adds to the adjustability of the cockpit.

Thanks for the feedback, Steven Fairchild

Im 6'3" w/ a 36" inseam. If I'm riding a 58 D6 right now, what size would I want an XL (57)?

Great looking bike, I'm super excited.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [slow123] [ In reply to ]
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It's very difficult to recommend a size based on your height. I'd suggest taking measurements from your current set up (if you like the set up) and see where that would fall with the new bike. More than likely you'd be a 57cm but if you want to attain a lower and shorter position, the 55 could be an option. If you have questions, a fit at a competent shop would be in order.

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velothree wrote:
It's very difficult to recommend a size based on your height. I'd suggest taking measurements from your current set up (if you like the set up) and see where that would fall with the new bike. More than likely you'd be a 57cm but if you want to attain a lower and shorter position, the 55 could be an option. If you have questions, a fit at a competent shop would be in order.

Thanks!
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [velothree] [ In reply to ]
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This is one of the things I love about this site.
We all start nitpicking a product, and the product manager himself chimes in!

Thanks for taking the time to reply, Steven. It's a privilege to have you & your industry peers around.

Now, who designed that aerobar? And more importantly, have they been taken outside and shot (ideally in front of their family) yet?

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velothree wrote:
You need to look beyond our stack and reach figures to understand the adjustability of the cockpit. Yes there are some with greater ranges of stack/reach, but not many with the number of stems and different angles. Plus the Norcom Straight doesn't lock you into a specific bar, you can use any 31.8mm bar in the market which adds to the adjustability of the cockpit.


Thanks for the feedback, Steven Fairchild


Don't worry that I'm not looking beyond Frame X,Y
I really like the sliding vertical dropouts, I've been waiting for someone to do that for a long time.
And I like the 2.5 - looks like a fearsome contender at that pricepoint. I won't have to live in fear of the LBS calling and asking me to come in (as a consultant fitter) to set up a D6 (ranks alongside the Look 695 for groan inducement).
For someone wanting a nice tri bike in the entry pricepoint I'd have fewer qualms about using aeropocket spacers to get the stack up. But unless you can show data that putting the stem above the TT has no deleterious effect I'm not going to view the spacers as a viable option for my speed oriented clients.
Likewise the idea of flipping the provided stem - no one is going to think that a tri bike with a +17Deg stem is a superbike.

As a first run through on comparing the 'fit cloud' I've made some assumptions based on what I can see.
Pad offset 40mm (rear of pad behind bar centre)
Pad stack min 30mm
Pad stack increment 5mm up to 40mm total
Stem lengths 80-90, angles -8 or -17
Headset cover 8mm
Steerer clamp height 40mm
I would be keen to get accurate data from you to do this properly and revise the graph below.

Pad X,Y measured to rear of pad
Comparing Norcom Straight with each stem length and spacer increment on every size (the unlikelihood of a 130mm stem on a small notwithstanding)
to the P5 with the Aduro bar.



Cervelo tell us that the different bar configs are very close aerodynamically, so there is no limitation on using what suits for a client who is looking for speed. Similarly, the under stem spacers mimic the shape of the stem and there is no fear of popping out of a shrouded area as the stem is always higher than the frame. So the fit cloud shown gives the position options while maintaining superbike setup. Obviously using other bars opens up a whole new range of positions.

The intersection of the blue lines is my personal Pad X,Y - I'm a little shorter than Matt Reed (and a lot heavier) running 20cm of saddle-pads drop in a UCI position. From what I can see I would not be able to ride the ML with the stock bars. Or any size in a superbike configuration.
I'm willing to be corrected and will amend the graph as soon as the data is available. Both component coordinates and data showing that aeropocket spacers or stem flipping will not induce an aero penalty.
But at this point it looks like you would have saved money and increased utility with 3 stem sizes and a better pad cup design.


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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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The whole 2 series has really competitive pricing. Nicely done to Fuji in that regard.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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interesting work, wish you would have substituted the 3T Ventus or TriRig Alpha/Sigma combo in there as I think no right-minded speed oriented athlete will be running those OEM bars and stem

I think this bike is a home run with one of those two bars, albiet probably on the long and low end of the spectrum unlike the P5

cyclenutnz wrote:
velothree wrote:
You need to look beyond our stack and reach figures to understand the adjustability of the cockpit. Yes there are some with greater ranges of stack/reach, but not many with the number of stems and different angles. Plus the Norcom Straight doesn't lock you into a specific bar, you can use any 31.8mm bar in the market which adds to the adjustability of the cockpit.


Thanks for the feedback, Steven Fairchild


Don't worry that I'm not looking beyond Frame X,Y
I really like the sliding vertical dropouts, I've been waiting for someone to do that for a long time.
And I like the 2.5 - looks like a fearsome contender at that pricepoint. I won't have to live in fear of the LBS calling and asking me to come in (as a consultant fitter) to set up a D6 (ranks alongside the Look 695 for groan inducement).
For someone wanting a nice tri bike in the entry pricepoint I'd have fewer qualms about using aeropocket spacers to get the stack up. But unless you can show data that putting the stem above the TT has no deleterious effect I'm not going to view the spacers as a viable option for my speed oriented clients.
Likewise the idea of flipping the provided stem - no one is going to think that a tri bike with a +17Deg stem is a superbike.

As a first run through on comparing the 'fit cloud' I've made some assumptions based on what I can see.
Pad offset 40mm (rear of pad behind bar centre)
Pad stack min 30mm
Pad stack increment 5mm up to 40mm total
Stem lengths 80-90, angles -8 or -17
Headset cover 8mm
Steerer clamp height 40mm
I would be keen to get accurate data from you to do this properly and revise the graph below.

Pad X,Y measured to rear of pad
Comparing Norcom Straight with each stem length and spacer increment on every size (the unlikelihood of a 130mm stem on a small notwithstanding)
to the P5 with the Aduro bar.



Cervelo tell us that the different bar configs are very close aerodynamically, so there is no limitation on using what suits for a client who is looking for speed. Similarly, the under stem spacers mimic the shape of the stem and there is no fear of popping out of a shrouded area as the stem is always higher than the frame. So the fit cloud shown gives the position options while maintaining superbike setup. Obviously using other bars opens up a whole new range of positions.

The intersection of the blue lines is my personal Pad X,Y - I'm a little shorter than Matt Reed (and a lot heavier) running 20cm of saddle-pads drop in a UCI position. From what I can see I would not be able to ride the ML with the stock bars. Or any size in a superbike configuration.
I'm willing to be corrected and will amend the graph as soon as the data is available. Both component coordinates and data showing that aeropocket spacers or stem flipping will not induce an aero penalty.
But at this point it looks like you would have saved money and increased utility with 3 stem sizes and a better pad cup design.

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interesting work, wish you would have substituted the 3T Ventus or TriRig Alpha/Sigma combo in there as I think no right-minded speed oriented athlete will be running those OEM bars and stem



I think we have to assume that the bar is reasonably fast - they wouldn't have been able to get into the superbike realm otherwise (assuming the claims about Norcom vs D6 and D6 vs P3 are accurate). Though I suspect they made more of an effort with cabling on the bike that went to the tunnel...

Ventus II is hard to find dimension data for. But it will really lock the bike into the lower right quadrant of the fit spectrum.
Sigma/Alpha I've taken a stab at using available info and measuring off pics. It would be good if Nick made full coordinate data available.

Note that this is using both the zero and +35mm stems (to illustrate the range of the bar) although - as mentioned earlier - I'd be loathe to use a stem that popped out the aeropocket on the Norcom.


The bar that would be really interesting to plot on here is the Vuka stealth. Which Zipp state has a fit cloud of 1920 points (P5 shown here is 1188) and has a lot of negative Pad X so the fit range will be huge. At the moment the setup I'd recommend for a fit/speed oriented athlete is an SC7 with Vuka Stealth.


It would be nice if aerobar manufacturers took fit more seriously - it's actually quite hard to find the information required to determine the range of most bars.
Having said that - would be good if they took design seriously - apart from a couple of good ones I still think the market is very weak in terms of product that offers a fit range without compromising aerodynamics (especially at lower price levels).


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that's the weird thing.... conventional wisdom is that the major difference between any of the super bikes was the bar choice, especially the SC vs. P4 for example. Put a Ventus on a P4 or SC 7 and boom, difference goes away. Now, here we have a bike with a visibly huge frontal area bar. I know aerodynamics are not always intuitive, but still.

I get adjustability and meeting a wide array of fits, but I think that's ultimately marketing. I'd ride the fastest bike regardless. That being said, maybe the Oval bar is fast. Finally, I really wish the Zipp bar was more attractive... the new Pinarello bar looks like a prettier version of the Zipp one, and of course there's the Alpha.

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ericM40-44 wrote:
interesting work, wish you would have substituted the 3T Ventus or TriRig Alpha/Sigma combo in there as I think no right-minded speed oriented athlete will be running those OEM bars and stem



I think we have to assume that the bar is reasonably fast - they wouldn't have been able to get into the superbike realm otherwise (assuming the claims about Norcom vs D6 and D6 vs P3 are accurate). Though I suspect they made more of an effort with cabling on the bike that went to the tunnel...

The bar that would be really interesting to plot on here is the Vuka stealth. Which Zipp state has a fit cloud of 1920 points (P5 shown here is 1188) and has a lot of negative Pad X so the fit range will be huge. At the moment the setup I'd recommend for a fit/speed oriented athlete is an SC7 with Vuka Stealth.

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When is this bike going to be available (aka when can I test ride it in a store)? I contacted Performance Bike yesterday and they hadn't even heard of it yet...
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ericM40-44 wrote:
that's the weird thing.... conventional wisdom is that the major difference between any of the super bikes was the bar choice, especially the SC vs. P4 for example. Put a Ventus on a P4 or SC 7 and boom, difference goes away. Now, here we have a bike with a visibly huge frontal area bar. I know aerodynamics are not always intuitive, but still.

I get adjustability and meeting a wide array of fits, but I think that's ultimately marketing. I'd ride the fastest bike regardless. That being said, maybe the Oval bar is fast. Finally, I really wish the Zipp bar was more attractive... the new Pinarello bar looks like a prettier version of the Zipp one, and of course there's the Alpha.

cyclenutnz wrote:
ericM40-44 wrote:
interesting work, wish you would have substituted the 3T Ventus or TriRig Alpha/Sigma combo in there as I think no right-minded speed oriented athlete will be running those OEM bars and stem



I think we have to assume that the bar is reasonably fast - they wouldn't have been able to get into the superbike realm otherwise (assuming the claims about Norcom vs D6 and D6 vs P3 are accurate). Though I suspect they made more of an effort with cabling on the bike that went to the tunnel...

The bar that would be really interesting to plot on here is the Vuka stealth. Which Zipp state has a fit cloud of 1920 points (P5 shown here is 1188) and has a lot of negative Pad X so the fit range will be huge. At the moment the setup I'd recommend for a fit/speed oriented athlete is an SC7 with Vuka Stealth.

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The Norcom, nor any frame it was tested against, had an aerobar installed. Only stem to reduce variability.

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I hear what you're saying but it's not pertinent to my argument that

a) the success of many of the accepted pre-Norcom super bikes was truly due to the bars, not the frame. IOW, the SC9 and their awesome Bontrager integrated setup was not really all that better than the its peer (at the time) the P4 (quite the contrary) when the P4 had a comprable aerobar on it (Ventus), making a used SC7 and Ventus bar a very cheap alternative to the so-called super bikes. Same with the nose-cone Shiv

b) nobody will be using those bars

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ericM40-44 wrote:

a) the success of many of the accepted pre-Norcom super bikes was truly due to the bars, not the frame.


That argument doesn't really make sense. We already know that aero bar choice matters. There's no evidence to make me believe that the norcom is a superbike.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Nick_Barkley] [ In reply to ]
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riiighhhht, but bike companies don't market aerobars, they market frames, and make claims about their frames compared to the competitors' frames while being secretive about their testing protocol or being open about it but having obviousl flaws in their testing.

Nick_Barkley wrote:
ericM40-44 wrote:

a) the success of many of the accepted pre-Norcom super bikes was truly due to the bars, not the frame.


That argument doesn't really make sense. We already know that aero bar choice matters.

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I understand what you're getting at.

I believe this is the best bang for your buck build and would beat >95% of the bikes I've seen here.
Trek SC 7
Vision Trimax aerobar with the upturns cut + Vision crab claws brake levers
Flo 6 Front + GP4000s 23mm
Wheel Cover rear- Vittoria Evo Slick or Triathlon or GP4000s
TriRig front brake
Latex Tubes
Bontrager Speed bottle on the ST
BTA bottle
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [ericM40-44] [ In reply to ]
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Ah. Got ya. Honestly, we should really be talking about this new Pinarello.

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Nick_Barkley] [ In reply to ]
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Nick_Barkley wrote:
I understand what you're getting at.

I believe this is the best bang for your buck build and would beat >95% of the bikes I've seen here.
Trek SC 7
Vision Trimax aerobar with the upturns cut + Vision crab claws brake levers
Flo 6 Front + GP4000s 23mm
Wheel Cover rear- Vittoria Evo Slick or Triathlon or GP4000s
TriRig front brake
Latex Tubes
Bontrager Speed bottle on the DT

BTA bottle

The Bontrager Speed bottle is more aero on the seat tube... says the guy who designed the bike so I'll trust his opinion on the matter. :-)

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My bad, I meant to say ST. D and S are right next to each other.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Stems available from 80 through 130mm in 10mm increments. Angles you have correct. We offer 40mm (20mm x 2) of spacers that the end user can choose to place under the stem or not.. Ease of adjustability and not locking you into one aerobar is a goal. Also budget, you're comparing the Norcom Straight to a frame that starts at $4500.. We felt a easily adjustable bike that performed well in the wind tunnel and that was more affordable to most people would appeal to more potential consumers.

Steven Fairchild
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Advanced Sports Inc/Fuji
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [velothree] [ In reply to ]
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If this bike fits me, I can definitely say I will be considering it. That being said, the lack of attention to detail that has been pointed out repeatedly throughout this thread is a bit disconcerting.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [velothree] [ In reply to ]
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velothree wrote:
Stems available from 80 through 130mm in 10mm increments. Angles you have correct. We offer 40mm (20mm x 2) of spacers that the end user can choose to place under the stem or not.. Ease of adjustability and not locking you into one aerobar is a goal. Also budget, you're comparing the Norcom Straight to a frame that starts at $4500.. We felt a easily adjustable bike that performed well in the wind tunnel and that was more affordable to most people would appeal to more potential consumers.

Sorry - I had used 80-130, the 90 is a typo on the stems.
Budget is why I like the 2-series, I think it's going to be a nice addition to the market. I used the P5 for reference because it also uses a standard steerer allow normal bars, but with the super bar (with a single stem length) there is a greater fit range than your 6 stem lengths. I could do the same exercise for an SC7 with a nice bar if yo would like pricepoint comparability.
What I'm disputing is the claim of a unique level of fit adaptability. Flipping stems is hardly a new concept, nor is it elegant. I'd tend to take it as indication of poor frame or bar selection. Afterall - with an ergostem and extension mounted pads (like the Oval 750 aeros) that allow huge pad setback I can 'fit' nearly anyone to my 56 P5.

Ultimately I'm just trying to point out that simply offering a redesigned elbow pad would significantly increase the fit range of the stock bar on this bike and allow a much better claim to a high level of adaptability.


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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Excellent feedback and analysis. Thanks for the comments.

Steven Fairchild
Global Road Product Manager
Advanced Sports Inc/Fuji
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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How are you going to fit that in the ACLSWT?


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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Or make a small model with a 3D printer?
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
*drills some holes in the pad holder*

I only use home made cups/pads anyway so don't really care for my own purposes whether the manufacturer got the design right or not.
Hours of fun with the drill, grinder, files and spraycan.

However, I would still like to see manufacturers grasp the implications of what fit range means a little better. Superdave heralded a new phase of understanding for the industry a couple of years back but, with a couple of exceptions, we're still waiting.


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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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Welcome back ;-)



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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [velothree] [ In reply to ]
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velothree wrote:
Steven Fairchild

Welcome to the time sponge, leave your productivity at the door.

-SD

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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When are these going to be for sale? I see that their website changed from "June" to "Summer" on the release date for certain models.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [slow123] [ In reply to ]
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When are these going to be for sale? I see that their website changed from "June" to "Summer" on the release date for certain models.

For sale? Now, I'd guess. Did you check with a Fuji dealer in your area? Delivery will likely depend on release dates of the 2014 components. You won't see Ultegra 6870 Di2 before October on any triathlon bike from anyone for example or SRAM RED22 RTC at all.

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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I was told that you're not going to get the bikes until "late Summer/Fall 2013" so I went in a different direction.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [SurfingLamb] [ In reply to ]
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SurfingLamb wrote:
I was told that you're not going to get the bikes until "late Summer/Fall 2013" so I went in a different direction.

Ok, out of curiosity, what did you end up buying?

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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In training garb...before today's maiden voyage.


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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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That's a clean ride. So how did she fare?
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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So, the Norcom Gay has finally come out of the closet? Fierce.

I give it three snaps in a Z-formation!

Just three words for that:
Dee. Li. Cious!


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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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sporting wood
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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Which frameset did you get? What did you build it with?
I see the bike available through performance bike.com
But they only have the 2.3 2.5 I wish I could get only the frame and build myself.

Cheers,
Matt
(Columbus, OH)
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [czarneckiosu] [ In reply to ]
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czarneckiosu wrote:
Which frameset did you get? What did you build it with?
I see the bike available through performance bike.com
But they only have the 2.3 2.5 I wish I could get only the frame and build myself.

Have you thought about going to an authorized Fuji dealer to I quire about ordering one? There's this little box on the web page called "Dealer Locator".

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [stageracer] [ In reply to ]
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Performance is the closest dealer. I could go see if a frameset is an option. I wish someone had them in stock, close. I'd love to see in person.
It's close in price to speed concept 7, or p2. I like the way it looks. But, for the money is it the best bet.

Cheers,
Matt
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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What stem is that?
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [cressidian] [ In reply to ]
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Norcom review over at Tririg...

http://www.tririg.com/...rcom_Straight_Review
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [jnnak] [ In reply to ]
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He reviewed but didn't ride it...

I agree with his comments on the bars though, they were the first things I replaced on mine.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [velothree] [ In reply to ]
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Could the Di2 battery not be placed under the saddle? I like the 1.3 (with a bar swap) but that battery really bothers me.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [mr.fincher] [ In reply to ]
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Yes it can be. I have seen a couple of people who have their seat quite far forward and were able to mount the battery to the top of the seat post under the seat.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [cressidian] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone have any tunnel/field testing data that would show where this bike is relative to the other "super bikes"? I know we have the Fuji provided data regarding improvements over the D6 but looking for something more definitive if there is anything?


Thanks in advance.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [xntrickly] [ In reply to ]
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Sure looks good but even the data Fuji released showed the their Kestral was faster than the Norcom Straight. Anyone out there able to comment on where the Kestral or Fuji rates to the P4 or better?


Many thanks.


xntrickly wrote:
Anyone have any tunnel/field testing data that would show where this bike is relative to the other "super bikes"? I know we have the Fuji provided data regarding improvements over the D6 but looking for something more definitive if there is anything?


Thanks in advance.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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I just put my NS together last night. I'm excited to race it Sunday! I wish I had more time to get it dialed in... :/




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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [slow123] [ In reply to ]
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Have an eye on my new fuji stealth!

1st get rid of the paint and save almost 200g in weight (there where a couple of layers and bad paint!)
2nd give#m all a new mix of black an clear matte finish
3rd take your favorite parts and put it all together...


Result: https://www.flickr.com/...s/72157644280775416/

TT Fuji Stealth, Ultegra 6870 Di2, weight 8,18kg incl. saddle bottle cage

Did also some testings with homemade speed boxes. Went to a cheap chinese sunglasses case (<1$).
Nice to have the battery holes at the seatpost.

Di2 Battery and all electronic is internal!

Have fun to watch...
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [derpuma] [ In reply to ]
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The Norcom is a great bike that gets overlooked

Hard work is faster then aero
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [derpuma] [ In reply to ]
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Really awesome! I've been wanting to strip my alloy road bike and put some minimal graphics on it, but I could media blast which would be much easier. Nicely done to you.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [surfNJmatt] [ In reply to ]
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Here's mine, and man this bike doesn't get a lot of love around here on the forums! (please ignore my son's shoddy yard up keep)

As for the build here's what the bike currently setup as:
2014 Fuji Norcom Straight 2.1 (bought from the ST classifieds)
Stock Ultegra 11 FD/RD and Dura Ace shifters
Osymetric 52/42 chain rings
SRAM Red 165 Crank w/ Red ceramic BB
TriRig Mercury Pedals
2 Quik 60mm wheels w/ BTLE PowerTap hub
3T Brezza II Aerobars and Extensions
Zipp Vuka Cradles and Pads
Dash Tri.7 Saddle
X-Lab Delta Sonic Rear Hydration
Profile Design Aero HC BTA Setup
X-Lab Mezzo Bag (for training)
Various orange accents

Thinking of going DA 9000 FD/RD or possibly Ultegra 6870 Di2 but haven't decided as of yet.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [skullyrush] [ In reply to ]
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Agree! I really like the shape of the Fujis and that blue color is gorgeous!

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Candice - XLAB] [ In reply to ]
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Any new wind tunnel data?
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [slow123] [ In reply to ]
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Are you looking on wind tunnel data for Fuji or XLAB? Sorry sometimes people reply to my posts with nothing related to XLAB!

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Candice - XLAB] [ In reply to ]
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For the fuji NS, sorry...
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [slow123] [ In reply to ]
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Thinking of buying a Norcom Straight 1.3, a Trek Speed Concept 7.5 or a Felt IA4.

The NS is on specials at my LBS so it's really good value for what you get out of the bike.

Can those who have owned the NS shed some light on some of my questions regarding the bike?
  • Is the Norcom Straight easy to travel with? I know the Trek can be a pain in this area and I can't find any info on the Felt to date.
  • Did your LBS dial in the positioning using spare parts (stem length, spacers, etc.?). The NS 1.3 on my LBS shop floor is a runout and they won't be stocking it again for 2015, so I'm concerned they'd be out of spares by now and they will try and sell me a bike that's not dialled in properly.
  • How easy/hard is it to clean up the exposed cables/wires on the bars? The press shots look messy! Would I need to swap to a different bar and extension kit?



Thanks in advance for the help.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [NomadKev] [ In reply to ]
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Just got a 1.3 about 2 weeks ago. It was a demo bike and the cables were a mess, but it was just a bad build (they didn't even route the shifter cables for the horn internally) so I am having my LBS clean it up. I can't comment on traveling with it, but it doesn't seem like much of a hassle. My LBS did a great fit job with the stock parts. I am 5' 7" male with normal proportions and the 51 cm fit nicely with a fairly aggressive position. Performance Bike recently dropped the price to $5000 for a 2014. When the frames are gone, the 2015 will likely be about the same price, since Fuji dropped the list price to $5400 (2015) from $6300 (2014). I wanted the 2014 because it was beautiful matte red versus the matte black for 2015, plus, I think they dropped one button off the end shifters so you can only change the rear gears from the end. Minor hassle to change the end shifters, though. I think a lot of the folks who are not Fuji fans have not really evaluated the new bikes or don't look at the value for the money. You can own the fastest UCI legal bike on the planet (team TT win at the TDF and fastest TT bike ever tested by Aerogeeks - http://aerogeeks.com/...ight-final-thoughts/) with Di2 shifters and race ready carbon wheels for $5k! That is a deal that is impossible to beat. Yes, the aero bar is not the best, the cables are not as clean as others and the battery is on the seat post. I can deal with that and spend the extra $2k on a lot of expensive beer.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [NomadKev] [ In reply to ]
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I'm a bit late to the party here but I've owned my 2014 NS for about 9 months now and absolutely love the bike. For reference purposes I was on a 2011 SC 7.0 before this bike. To answer your questions though:

  • Mine doesn't have Di2 but even not having it, I don't think it would be a pain to travel with. I drive to all my races at this point so I don't pack the bike. However, I have stripped the bike down to re-cable it twice and reassembly wasn't difficult. With Di2 I would imagine it would be a bit easier.
  • I bought mine barely used off the classifieds here on ST, so no LBS was involved. As for fit, the guy I bought mine from was ~the same height/weight that I am. The bike is a size "S" AKA 51. When it came to fit, I had already ordered a 3T Brezza II base and extensions and immediately pulled off the Oval stuff (kept the stem though). I think the TriRig Alpha is a better and WAY more adjustable bar than the 3T but it was considerably more $$$ so I went the cheaper route this time. After I got the bike assembled with the new bars/extensions and saddle I used an app called "Bike Fast Fit" to dial it in by myself. It worked pretty well and I did a few 50, 60, and 80 mile rides without too much discomfort. Then I got a RETUL fit done and have been peachy ever since. Not much was changed it in RETUL fit but the small changes helped with comfort.
  • Yep, that's what I did and it made life a lot better.

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [skullyrush] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone know if a TriRig Sigma stem will fit on a Norcom Straight?
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Otis] [ In reply to ]
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I was told the Sigma stem would not fit the NS
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [mr.fincher] [ In reply to ]
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I just got 1.3
loyal customer of performance but beyond unhappy at this point. really bad design of arm support, the damn things snapped after 1 ride literally broke in two.
assembly was a mess as well. any suggestions on what kind of aero bar clip to get so that the damn things wont move?

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Bypasskid] [ In reply to ]
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Bypasskid wrote:
I just got 1.3
loyal customer of performance but beyond unhappy at this point. really bad design of arm support, the damn things snapped after 1 ride literally broke in two.
assembly was a mess as well. any suggestions on what kind of aero bar clip to get so that the damn things wont move?


what did you end up doing? looking to replace mine as well
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [lambdatri1049] [ In reply to ]
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Mine also broke. I got the ones in the link below. You just need to dremal one of the bolt holes bigger. They work great.

https://store.profile-design.com/p/21123/F35aAlloyArmrestKit
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [skullyrush] [ In reply to ]
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skullyrush wrote:
Here's mine, and man this bike doesn't get a lot of love around here on the forums! (please ignore my son's shoddy yard up keep)

As for the build here's what the bike currently setup as:
2014 Fuji Norcom Straight 2.1 (bought from the ST classifieds)
Stock Ultegra 11 FD/RD and Dura Ace shifters
Osymetric 52/42 chain rings
SRAM Red 165 Crank w/ Red ceramic BB
TriRig Mercury Pedals
2 Quik 60mm wheels w/ BTLE PowerTap hub
3T Brezza II Aerobars and Extensions
Zipp Vuka Cradles and Pads
Dash Tri.7 Saddle
X-Lab Delta Sonic Rear Hydration
Profile Design Aero HC BTA Setup
X-Lab Mezzo Bag (for training)
Various orange accents

Thinking of going DA 9000 FD/RD or possibly Ultegra 6870 Di2 but haven't decided as of yet.

I'm looking to do the same Brezza 2 on my new Norcom. The 760 stem is so wide at the clamp, I wasn't sure it would fit but it looks like it does.

Would you mind posting a pic of how the cables get routed with your set up? A front and closer in pic? Any help so I can make up my mind would be appreciated!!

Also, has anyone bought a new 760 stem (or figured out another common stem that works)? The MSRP is stupid expensive at $250. Wondering if they actually cost that much.

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [jsiege11] [ In reply to ]
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Here's some pics of how I routed the cables. I really don't like how I have to route the front brake cable but I can live with it. If I had to do it over again I'd go with the Zipp Vuka Aero or the TriRig Alpha Classic. However, I am relatively happy with the setup so no need to spend $700+ on a new base bar etc.






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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [skullyrush] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks! Yeah, that's how I was thinking the front brake would have to be. Can you route the shift housing out the back of the extensions instead of exiting the underside? That would be my fort approach, but not if you couldn't get it to work.

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You can route it,but with the 80mm stem I use it just doesn't have enough slack and it puts the cables in a bind. I decided to route them out right before the clamps and since I have my BTA there, I don't think there is any aero penalty.
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Gotcha. Yeah, it looks clean, I like it.

I've got a 90 on mine but I probably need a 110 or 120. Trying to decide whether to by another 760 or just find a ransom stem that fits.

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [jsiege11] [ In reply to ]
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The TriRig Sigma X fits I believe (http://tririg.com/store.php?c=sigma). The only down side is that they're not in production yet. When faced with buying another Oval 760 or waiting on the TriRig, I'd wait on the TriRig. I would have already pre-ordered one but it would stretch me out too much and I'm quite happy with my fit as is.
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skullyrush wrote:
Here's some pics of how I routed the cables. I really don't like how I have to route the front brake cable but I can live with it. If I had to do it over again I'd go with the Zipp Vuka Aero or the TriRig Alpha Classic. However, I am relatively happy with the setup so no need to spend $700+ on a new base bar etc.


Hi, just bought one of these frames to build up for next year. Could you help me out and tell me what the cable outers stop up against when they run through the cap in the top-tube?
thanks
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The outers don't have stops. They run through the frame and to the FD, RD, and rear brake. I've re-cabled min enough now to where it takes about 30 minutes at most to run new outers. Did some flexible brake/shift noodles come with your frame?
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [skullyrush] [ In reply to ]
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Cheers, that's a lot of cable outer! The clear liner tubes get removed and kept once the inner wires are put through then and the outer pushed over them?

Yup, got the hardware that came with the bike; top tube caps, noodles and other bits for the brakes
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My frame didn't have the clear tubes since it was fully assembled when I got it. I usually just run a inner wire through the frame and then pull the outer over it, so pretty much the same process.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone on here using Flo wheels with their Norcom?

Had some issues with my Oval wheels so i plan on using my flo's now. Might just be me since im not bike savvy in the brake dept but it doesnt look like these TRP brakes open up too much to fit a flo wheel. again, i know it's probably me but i was turning the knobs near the brake lever and underneath the bike near the brakes wondering which one would open up the brakes.

thanks.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [gleeclub] [ In reply to ]
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I don't have Flos but they should fit. The screws you're referring to are to adjust the balance between the pads relative to the brake track. If you need to open the brakes up more, you'll have to loosen the cable anchors on both brakes and space them out to fit the Flos.

Do you have an inline barrel adjuster on your brake lines? If you don't I'd recommend adding some or getting brake levers that allow you to adjust the distance between the pads and the rim. I'm using the Bontrager xXx ones and they have built in adjusters. TRP makes some as well.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [skullyrush] [ In reply to ]
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great thanks.


no i do not, i will mention the IBA to my mechanic at my lbs. thanks.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [gleeclub] [ In reply to ]
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I don't know exactly what brake you have but it should work. If loosening the cable alone doesn't work, you may have to remove some spacers from behind your brake pad.

Let me know if you have any additional questions.

Take care,


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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Canadian] [ In reply to ]
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Here is my Norcom with Flo 60/90. I didn't need to do anything else other than loosening the cable. Love the wheels.


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SLOWDT wrote:
Here is my Norcom with Flo 60/90. I didn't need to do anything else other than loosening the cable. Love the wheels.


Wow! Great looking bike!


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I gotta agree, that's seriously awesome looking.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [skullyrush] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks, I love the bike. Norcoms don't get much love it seems.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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I'll hopefully be picking up a new 1.3 next month. I've read the bars are garbage, and the LBS I'm dealing with has had to send a few back due to a number of issues. Leads me to my question. What bars are you using on the bike, possibly with pictures? I've got a set of shimano pro bars I'll transfer over until I find/can afford a new set.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [rjrankin] [ In reply to ]
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I got a 1.3 last year...really good deal, and like it a lot but definitely the arm rests needed to go.

One of the ways they get some of the advertised range of fit is that the arm rests clip to the extensions (so you can slide them to where ever you want to adjust reach). I'm 185 and they just didn't work for me -- I couldn't get them tight enough to stay at the level I set them (and it sucks to hit a bump and have the arm rests drop).

I bought the Zipp alumina clip armrests and used them with the Oval extensions that came with the bike. The Zipps are really comfortable and far better, and they were a quick/cheap solution. Eventually, I upgraded the entire bar to a nicer base bar (with better cable routing, also), but the Zipps were a fine solution that I could have kept using in terms of functionality.
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Yes, the factory setup is poor quality IMO. I've had a few different base bar, pads and extension setups on my bike. My current one is a Zipp Vuka Bull with Zipp Vuka Alumina clips and arm rests. I moved from my previous 3T setup because I wanted the ability to angle my extensions and pads upward. So far I've been really happy with the Zipp ones.

Just waiting for TriRig to release the Sigma X and my front end will be finished. Cable routing for me is pretty simple since going to a 1x11 drivetrain.
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Just put this all together. Feels as fast as it looks.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [skullyrush] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone running the Oval wheels it comes with?
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [brenth555] [ In reply to ]
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Nice looking bike. It even appears to be comfortable on the sofa!
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [skullyrush] [ In reply to ]
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I have been using the stock wheels that came one my 1.3 for training wheels. I have had no issues at all with them.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [brenth555] [ In reply to ]
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My wife would tweak shit if I put my bike on our Pendleton blanket like that.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Runless] [ In reply to ]
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Well sadly my girlfriend does not care for the glory of Pendelton wool, so it is relegated to the couch but trust me the tires were very clean when I took this. Two of my loves in one pic. Also this is the 2.5 so the wheels that came with it are for training only.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [brenth555] [ In reply to ]
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Fresh out of the box.

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [rjrankin] [ In reply to ]
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Looks great! I really like how Fuji did the paint scheme on the 2016 models. On my '14 it has Fuji plastered on every surface, the newer ones look much more understated and classy.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [skullyrush] [ In reply to ]
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They really did a good job with this color scheme. I have a transonic and know someone with a Norcom 1.1 with glossy paint. The black on the 1.3 is flat black and looks awesome. Can't wait to get it built up
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [rjrankin] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone know where I can get the front brake noodle for the bike?? I need 2 of them, please help!
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [tri_big_boy] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry to say it, but good luck. Fuji will only work with a dealer, not direct to consumer. I love my bike but their customer service sucks. The LBS I bought mine from is closed now.

Does anyone know of any other brakes that will fit on the rear. I swap pads out with wheels and hate these brakes. Someone said there was a way to make an Ultegra brake work, but I can't find where I saw it.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [rjrankin] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone switch out the back brake? If so, with what? I'm sick of these TRP brakes
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [rjrankin] [ In reply to ]
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If anyone else is tired of the wire mess on these bikes. Here is the Alpha X installed.






Last edited by: Keith-OH: Dec 4, 17 21:26
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Keith-OH] [ In reply to ]
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Keith-OH wrote:
If anyone else is tired of the wire mess on these bikes. Here is the Alpha X installed.




Are those eyes at the top of the head tube?

Intentional or just a reflection, combined with the maw (i.e., the Fuji triangle) it makes for a very sinister-looking bike!
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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I am not sure what you are referring to.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Keith-OH] [ In reply to ]
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Keith-OH wrote:
I am not sure what you are referring to.



ETA: And when you crop the photo that way, the TR stem looks to me like a pirate's hat...
Last edited by: Andrew Coggan: Dec 5, 17 8:23
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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The top part is just a reflection.
Last edited by: Keith-OH: Dec 5, 17 9:44
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Keith-OH] [ In reply to ]
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Here is the install video.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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Andrew Coggan wrote:
Keith-OH wrote:
I am not sure what you are referring to.




ETA: And when you crop the photo that way, the TR stem looks to me like a pirate's hat...


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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Keith-OH] [ In reply to ]
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Keith-OH wrote:
Here is the install video.

Helluva pain cave you have there.

"They're made of latex, not nitroglycerin"
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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That's hilarious! I love my fuji norcom straight. But I'd love it even more with pirate eyes!! I'm sure my kids' lego stickers can be repurposed.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [gary p] [ In reply to ]
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haha got the same idea! what a nice house he has.

Aero maketh man
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Keith-OH] [ In reply to ]
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This looks real sleek! Really like it. I have a CX3 Aerobar, and definitely looks a bit messy. Do you know if this would look similar with mechanical shifters? Also, how do you like the aerobar? Was it worth the investment?


Thanks!

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Ryx523] [ In reply to ]
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Ryx523: I have only had the bike on the trainer so far. It is a bit cold here in Ohio right now. But on the trainer it feels great. I did have to move the bars as far back as possible for my position. It should look exactly the same with mechanical shifters.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Keith-OH] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Norcom experts, I need some setup help.
I bought a used 1.3 frameset and building it into my TT bike to replace a Cannondale Slice.

I'm confused about the headset/stem assembly. My frame came with a slotted headset "spacer" and a flat one that looks like a top headset bearing cover. I also have the original stem (what a boat anchor!!). So if I want to run the top of the stem flush with the top tube, what combination of elements do I need to use? I can't find a manual for this bike anywhere.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [engi] [ In reply to ]
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you have fairly limited stems. Besides the OVAL 760 that it comes with, I believe the Thomson road stems will fit, and maybe some others now (long time since I checked) but overall it was designed with that 760 in mind to run it flush.

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Morelock] [ In reply to ]
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I am planning to use the original oval stem, I'm just not sure which parts I need to put in the stack below the stem. Sorry if this seems like a dumb question. I'm not new to working with bikes, but a lot of this front end is proprietary, and I don't know what is the right way everything fits.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [engi] [ In reply to ]
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I think I still have a .pdf of the manual. Drop me an email and I will try to dig it up for you.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Andrew, email sent, but it bounced. Still have the earthlink account?
Last edited by: engi: Mar 11, 18 21:40
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [engi] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry, you can email me at work (iupui.edu).
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you, sent
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [engi] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone found an alternative brake to the TRP's?
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [rjrankin] [ In reply to ]
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I would also love to know this answer. I cannot stand the TRP's
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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Is there enough clearance on the frame to run HED jet plus?

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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [TriRugby] [ In reply to ]
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I have the hed jet c2 and they fit.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Keith-OH] [ In reply to ]
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Not sure if it's specific to the Norcom, but anyone with an oversized pulley get rub when running a disc? I run an 11-25 cassette and when in the 25 it rubs on the disc. Thankfully don't need that gear much in FL


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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [rjrankin] [ In reply to ]
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Mine rubs with a disc cover.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [ In reply to ]
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I saw one of these on clearance at my local Performance. From the looks of it, the stem is running flush with the top tube like this. I assume this means the workers cut the fork when assembling and I can no longer add in the 20-40mm of spacers anymore, right?
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [caverunner17] [ In reply to ]
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Correct. Look around for a used or new fork that’s uncut. They may even order you one at a pretty good discount to move the bike.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [New3901] [ In reply to ]
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Picked my 2.5 up from Performance yesterday for $950. Working on replacing the aero bars with Profile Design T4, the shifters with Dura Ace and swapping the crank to my 105 5800 one.

Anything special to cut the seat post? I normally use a fine bladed hacksaw on my carbon fork steers.
Last edited by: caverunner17: Jan 11, 19 12:27
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [caverunner17] [ In reply to ]
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Geez that is a crazy deal for a new decent TT bike.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [grumpier.mike] [ In reply to ]
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Just picked up a Norcom Straight 2.3 for giveaway prices.

Looking at running a BTA for hydration. Any good options for storing a flat kit? Aero bottle on the down tube?
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Fasterthanslow] [ In reply to ]
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I put flat kit in bottle cage behind the seat (and use bta for hydration).
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [velothree] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone having issues with seatpost slippage? I've put in carbon paste and tightened to 4Nm, but it still slips by the end of the ride.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [caverunner17] [ In reply to ]
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For anyone interested, the Oval 713 stem fits! You can find these on eBay for around $15-20.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [caverunner17] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone know where I can find anymore of the proprietary spacers to fit the Norcom?

https://www.strava.com/athletes/23685202
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [TriRugby] [ In reply to ]
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What amount are you looking to add? I might have some left after cutting fork (and if so, you could have them).
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [gleeclub] [ In reply to ]
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Hi everyone! I did not get some answers that I sent in private, and then I ask who I can answer. I have a Fuji Norcom 1.1 and intend to put a set of Flo wheels in it. I have read a few comments on whether or not these wheels fit the Norcom framework. The Fuji factory instruction is to use 23 mm wheels, but the current Flo is 25 mm. Has anyone had trouble using the 25mm Flo on the frame or on the brakes of the Fuji Norcom? Thank you for your attention!
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrius_] [ In reply to ]
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I had to take my bike to the mechanic and had them adjust the brakes when i wanted to use the flo wheels. Not sure on the 25mm since i used 23mm on mine. I had a lot of issues with my wheels so i went back to using the ovals
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrius_] [ In reply to ]
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I use Flo 30 as training wheels on mine, and use a Jet+ disc in races -- think the disc at least has a 25mm brake track width. But brakes definitely need to be adjusted, which is a pain...
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [gleeclub] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you!
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrius_] [ In reply to ]
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Well, analyzing the answers, and thinking of having as little error as possible, I think I'll buy some other brand than Flo, for the Fuji Norcom. Certainly some wheel 23 mm wide because everyone who placed 25 mm in the Norcom, report problems (I may be wrong) The Flo enchant me, just like the Hed, because the aluminum rim is black. And it is difficult to find currently 23 mm wheels, and black aluminum (I believe that there are only these two marks).
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrius_] [ In reply to ]
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It's not so much a problem as the need to adjust the tricky brakes -- esp. if you're going to use the same wheels all the time, it's really a one time thing (it would be harder if you were going to use training and racing wheels that are different widths).

ETA: if the flo wheels are a good option for you, I would try them.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [dand] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you!


After years, I'm determined to train for another full IM in December. When I get Flo, I'll post it here.
Train safely!
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [Andrius_] [ In reply to ]
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I ride Flo 60 front and Flo 90 rear on my 1.1. No issues once you get the brakes dialed. They're finicky, but it does work.
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Re: The official Fuji Norcom Straight thread [sggrant89] [ In reply to ]
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Nice!
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