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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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Just in case you to lazy to click on the link.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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Clearly they're investing in more colors in their paint schemes this year.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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I really don't like any of these paint schemes.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [riotgear]
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I actually think its a nice refreshing change from their recent color and design choices.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [riotgear]
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riotgear wrote:
I really don't like any of these paint schemes.+1
I love the current cervelo paint schemes for their simplicity. This would be a step back.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [MSantos]
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MSantos wrote:
riotgear wrote:
I really don't like any of these paint schemes.+1
I love the current cervelo paint schemes for their simplicity. This would be a step back.
+2
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [matto]
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+3, not a fan of two-tone
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [matto]
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matto wrote:
MSantos wrote:
riotgear wrote:
I really don't like any of these paint schemes.+1
I love the current cervelo paint schemes for their simplicity. This would be a step back.
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I have a 2012 P2 and 2011 R3, and the color scheme perfectly matches the exposed brick walls in my living room :)
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [BrianRunsPhilly]
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [BrianRunsPhilly]
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BrianRunsPhilly wrote:
matto wrote:
MSantos wrote:
riotgear wrote:
I really don't like any of these paint schemes.+1
I love the current cervelo paint schemes for their simplicity. This would be a step back.
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I have a 2012 P2 and 2011 R3, and the color scheme perfectly matches the exposed brick walls in my living room :)
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I definitely like the color scheme of my 2012 P2 over the 2013 P2, quite frankly it's ugly and I like understated. I did see a pic of the 2013 R3 awhile ago, and I did like it, a lot.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [tigerpaws]
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now that's a visual
Joe C.
Joe C.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [tigerpaws]
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"Poop returning up into the butt hole." Hilarious.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [tigerpaws]
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I think I will always use this analogy when something can't be undone. I usually say you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, but this is MUCH better.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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Am I the only one that likes these? Especially the S5 design.
How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [Newyorkfan21]
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Newyorkfan21 wrote:
"Poop returning up into the butt hole." Hilarious.I can't claim that it was used by Triumph the Insult Comic dog when referring to the Bon Jovi concert patrons in one of his spoofs. But yea I'd equate the new P2's paint to that either way.
First 20 seconds:
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [KyraMorgan]
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KyraMorgan wrote:
BrianRunsPhilly wrote:
matto wrote:
MSantos wrote:
riotgear wrote:
I really don't like any of these paint schemes.+1
I love the current cervelo paint schemes for their simplicity. This would be a step back.
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I have a 2012 P2 and 2011 R3, and the color scheme perfectly matches the exposed brick walls in my living room :)
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I definitely like the color scheme of my 2012 P2 over the 2013 P2, quite frankly it's ugly and I like understated. I did see a pic of the 2013 R3 awhile ago, and I did like it, a lot.
+5. Prefer the current paint jobs.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [BLeP]
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No, you're not.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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Wishing they would have done behind the stem cable entry on the P2
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [BLeP]
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BLeP wrote:
Am I the only one that likes these? Especially the S5 design.I'll keep my 2012 S5 over these, but at least on the S series bikes, it's clear that Cervelo is trying to draw your eye away from the extra-tall headtube (at least on larger sizes) by making the head tube black with color and logoing on the seat tube and top tube. I think they actually succeed on that front.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [BMANX]
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agreed on behind the stem routing for cables, but maybe it's just me but it seems like this thread is up every year about Cervelo paint. Everyone seems to like the year before's colorways in cervelo every year.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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I also saw these about a month ago. Really like the colors.[/img][/img]
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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Hmm. Just because increased surface area allows larger font size, it doesn't mean you have to have huge fonts. The R series is nice. The S5 and P2, I feel like I'm being yelled at.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [trail]
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wow look great to me, much better than the current schemes, never liked the S5, until now!
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [ATB24]
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:(
only the P2 look good.
only the P2 look good.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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rayray wrote:
I just found this on another site. http://weightweenies.starbike.com/...php?f=3&t=106049
26 responses and other than two about cable placement and a couple about poop, just a bunch of talk about something that has no impact on the bike's performance whatsoever. I don't get it.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [ConstantTime]
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+3, not a fan of two-tone+1. I think I am not a fan of the 2 colors on the model designation. I guess I have gotten used to the letter, number being the same color. Maybe my opinion changes as with time.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [T-wrecks]
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T-wrecks wrote:
rayray wrote:
I just found this on another site. http://weightweenies.starbike.com/...php?f=3&t=106049
26 responses and other than two about cable placement and a couple about poop, just a bunch of talk about something that has no impact on the bike's performance whatsoever. I don't get it.
because aesthetics play a critical role in swaying people on bike choices?
I really like the S5 & S2 road bikes. P2....dunno, but I am drawn to bikes w/ red in them, so that is probably why I am lukewarm on it.
Either way, a nice change of pace for Cervelo.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [BLeP]
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BLeP wrote:
Am I the only one that likes these? Especially the S5 design.I'm also a fan of these. I think the paint schemes from the last couple of years have been boring and ugly. I like that they've punched them up a little bit again. My favorite Cervelo paint scheme of all time is still the blue and grey 2009 P2 Ultegra (like the one in this thread).
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [tkeru408]
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i like the p2, not sure of the silver up the top though. Like the big 'P2' lettering. Done away with 3T bars?
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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Looks to me like no p3 in the line up.
I think Cervelo is crazy not to jump in and release...leak some high quality shots of the bikes next to a great mountain backdrop etc to put a positive spin on this. Right now all we have are some low quality shots that don't do the new paint scheme's justice. The way cervelo handles itself from a marketing point of view with availability and information really makes me question their marketing team.
I think Cervelo is crazy not to jump in and release...leak some high quality shots of the bikes next to a great mountain backdrop etc to put a positive spin on this. Right now all we have are some low quality shots that don't do the new paint scheme's justice. The way cervelo handles itself from a marketing point of view with availability and information really makes me question their marketing team.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's
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They look like half a cervelo and half a felt wielded together!
Not my taste - shame :(
Not my taste - shame :(
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [iron snorks]
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Wow cervelo continues the tradition of making unbelievably awesome bikes that hurt the eyes. That said, I've owned a p2k, a p2c, and an s5( the white rival which looks a gazillion times better than the 2013 s5) and all of them were just great
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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Every year their high end road bikes look more and more like tt bikes. Although obviously someone cruising along at a good pace is going to benefit greatly from the aerodynamics, but is it really necessary for the average crit/road racer?
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [tristevewisco]
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Who cares if it's necessary? It sells.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [BLeP]
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Nope..im with you. These paint schemes are SWEET and im sure are going to get sweeter as people add to their bikes!
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A true warrior leave no openings-Except in his mind.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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R series not bad - but could lose extra 'cervelo' logo on top tube. But sweet Jesus, the S series and P series are retro(grade). Matte finish is a nice change but the super sized logos - what were they thinking? They will age badly. I for one liked the idea of the colour stripe up the fork across the headtube tapering into the top tube. They should have stuck with this and played around with the base colour and stripe colour(s). Now it's the equivalent of an alarm going off during a hangover!! Glad I've just got my 2012 S5 Team!
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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Cervelo should just go back to the 2007-08 schemes. Those were the best.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [hansonator69]
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Colour/shmolour. You guys can always buy another tri suit/helmet/pair of shoes so that you're still nicely coordinated with the current year colourways.
FWIW in this fashion thread, the P2 frame looks pretty nice.
FWIW in this fashion thread, the P2 frame looks pretty nice.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices)[rayray]
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Here are more pics and including the P3.
The S5 VWD is available with Shimano Dura Ace Di2 for $9,500 or mechanical Dura Ace for $7,500.
The S5 (non VWD) is available with Ultegra Di2 for $5,500 or mechanical Ultegra for $4,300.
The S2 is "entry level" with 105 at $2,800.
The R5 comes with three different build kits - electronic Campy EPS 11-speed for $11,00, Dura Ace Di2 for $9,000 or mechanical DA for $7,000.
The R3 will be available with Ultegra for $3,900 or 105 for $2,600
The P5-Six is the triathlon version (left) and is available with Dura Ace Di2 for $10,000 or SRAM Red for $7,500. The P5-three (right) is UCI legal and is available with Red for $6,000.
The P3 comes with Ultegra for $3,800.
The P2 comes in at $2,600 with an Ultegra group.
The S5 VWD is available with Shimano Dura Ace Di2 for $9,500 or mechanical Dura Ace for $7,500.
The S5 (non VWD) is available with Ultegra Di2 for $5,500 or mechanical Ultegra for $4,300.
The S2 is "entry level" with 105 at $2,800.
The R5 comes with three different build kits - electronic Campy EPS 11-speed for $11,00, Dura Ace Di2 for $9,000 or mechanical DA for $7,000.
The R3 will be available with Ultegra for $3,900 or 105 for $2,600
The P5-Six is the triathlon version (left) and is available with Dura Ace Di2 for $10,000 or SRAM Red for $7,500. The P5-three (right) is UCI legal and is available with Red for $6,000.
The P3 comes with Ultegra for $3,800.
The P2 comes in at $2,600 with an Ultegra group.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [rayray]
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New cable routing for the P3? I don't see the downtube stops like on the current P3 and that pic of the P2.
Suffer Well.
Suffer Well.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [rayray]
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I see there are no SRAM builds.
Word on the street is that the manufacturers are pissed off at SRAM since they've released so many mid-season Red updates/versions in such a short time frame - Red, Red Black, 2012 Red Yaw.
Word on the street is that the manufacturers are pissed off at SRAM since they've released so many mid-season Red updates/versions in such a short time frame - Red, Red Black, 2012 Red Yaw.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [rayray]
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I think these are a step in the right direction, and I like the fonts their playing with. However it only makes it more apparent how painfully awful the puffy-paint font of the "Cervelo" logo is. It is really way past due to get a graphic designer to come up with a decent logo.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [jmh]
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jmh wrote:
New cable routing for the P3? I don't see the downtube stops like on the current P3 and that pic of the P2.That was the first thing I looked for, too.
Steve
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [The_Mickstar]
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The 2012 P3 with Ultegra sold for $3350. If the 2013 P3 with Ultegra sells for $3800 then it would make sense that they upgraded the cable routing.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [rayray]
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Thank for for the additional pics and pricing!!
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [BLeP]
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BLeP wrote:
Am I the only one that likes these? Especially the S5 design.I "almost" like the S5 paint.....none of the others though.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [KyraMorgan]
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I like the p2 and p3. I am also wondering about the cable routing on the p3.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [rayray]
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What does VWD stand for? Very Widiculous Dollars? (think "Chekov" Russian accent)
I almost wish I needed a new bike.
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I almost wish I needed a new bike.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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Wow. I'm glad I didn't wait to get an R3.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [texasforever]
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texasforever wrote:
The 2012 P3 with Ultegra sold for $3350. If the 2013 P3 with Ultegra sells for $3800 then it would make sense that they upgraded the cable routing.Not necessarily....prices have gone up across the board, for the most part. Labor is China is up, raw material costs are up, shipping costs are up....
I wouldn't necessarily expect frame revisions simply becausew the price is higher. It could have new routing, but don't use the price as your guide.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [Power13]
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Prices may be up, but 500 up? Something is new.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [Murphy'sLaw]
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Always makes me laugh when I read '...the P5 is available...'
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's [EddyRoche]
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EddyRoche wrote:
KyraMorgan wrote:
BrianRunsPhilly wrote:
matto wrote:
MSantos wrote:
riotgear wrote:
I really don't like any of these paint schemes.+1
I love the current cervelo paint schemes for their simplicity. This would be a step back.
+2
+3
I have a 2012 P2 and 2011 R3, and the color scheme perfectly matches the exposed brick walls in my living room :)
+4
I definitely like the color scheme of my 2012 P2 over the 2013 P2, quite frankly it's ugly and I like understated. I did see a pic of the 2013 R3 awhile ago, and I did like it, a lot.
+5. Prefer the current paint jobs.
I like the "e" logo on the downtube but I don't like the model name in the big font and different colors. I liked it when it was very plain on the seatstays.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [Murphy'sLaw]
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices)
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Increases in pricing for? Oh wait, my CAAD10 will never hold me back. Think I'll go ride more and work less.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [Power13]
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Power13 wrote:
texasforever wrote:
The 2012 P3 with Ultegra sold for $3350. If the 2013 P3 with Ultegra sells for $3800 then it would make sense that they upgraded the cable routing.Not necessarily....prices have gone up across the board, for the most part. Labor is China is up, raw material costs are up, shipping costs are up....
I wouldn't necessarily expect frame revisions simply becausew the price is higher. It could have new routing, but don't use the price as your guide.
You've got to give them credit. Rolling out the exact same bike frame 9yrs running and people still buy it.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [Murphy'sLaw]
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for a longtime poster on cervelotwitch, you oughta be flogged for not knowing what VWD stands for.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [The Red Baron]
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Yes, but a P3 with Ultegra (I'd prefer SRAM but anyway...) for that price is a pretty sweet bike anyway - which is still ahead of many, many bikes parked in any T1 that I know.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [MSantos]
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I love the current cervelo paint schemes for their simplicity. This would be a step back.
I like simple, solid coloured frames myself. Cervelo seems to go back and forth with this. The R-series seems to be returning to a more simple look, from the past couple of years. While the S and the P-series seem to be going for TWO-TONE LOUD GRAPHICS ALL AROUND! :)
My favourite frame, not for what it is but for the way it looks is the R5CA, but I would have to win the lottery to afford one of those! :)
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I like simple, solid coloured frames myself. Cervelo seems to go back and forth with this. The R-series seems to be returning to a more simple look, from the past couple of years. While the S and the P-series seem to be going for TWO-TONE LOUD GRAPHICS ALL AROUND! :)
My favourite frame, not for what it is but for the way it looks is the R5CA, but I would have to win the lottery to afford one of those! :)
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [footwerx]
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footwerx wrote:
for a longtime poster on cervelotwitch, you oughta be flogged for not knowing what VWD stands for. Get rid of the pink, flog his ignorant ass!
How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [BLeP]
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Get rid of the pink, flog his ignorant ass!
Laughs aside, you could probably do a business case study of the impact that the Slowtwitch forum had, back at a key critical time in the growth of Cervelo. Co-founder Gerard Vroomen posted frequently, and intelligently back in the early '00's when Cervelo was just really starting to roll, and this coincided with the first wave of the importance and roll that the internet played at many levels.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [BLeP]
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Nah. Remember that you're dealing with a hairy Irish hobbit. Intellectual prowess isn't exactly a forte...
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and pricing) [rayray]
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How about last year's $1000 off sale, any chance of that returning?
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [BLeP]
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as punishment he shall go and write us a 1000 word essay on the differences between ICS1, ICS2 and ICS3, and what 6grams means for BB stiffness for cervelo
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [campyrick]
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campyrick wrote:
Prices may be up, but 500 up? Something is new.Well, it isn't cable routing. Go and look at the pic of the P2 on the first page of the thread. Cables are clearly going into the DT.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [Power13]
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Doesn't look like all of the prices are up. From memory, I think (some if not all) of the S5 prices are down. I think the Ultegra Di2 is $500 cheaper and has my name all over it...
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and pricing) [Sweeney]
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Sweeney wrote:
How about last year's $1000 off sale, any chance of that returning?Dear God no. Dealers everywhere would rise up in mutiny.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [Power13]
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Check out the picture of the P3. There do not appear to be any cable holes in the DT. Also, perhaps there are component upgrades in the $500 increase that we are not considering (i.e. upgraded bars).
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [Power13]
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On the P2 yes, but I don't see any cable holes on the dt of the P3. They could be there, but just not visible. At any rate a man can dream can't he? I know it really doesn't make that much of a difference, but I just love how clean a bike looks with behind the stem routing.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [Power13]
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Power13 wrote:
texasforever wrote:
The 2012 P3 with Ultegra sold for $3350. If the 2013 P3 with Ultegra sells for $3800 then it would make sense that they upgraded the cable routing.Not necessarily....prices have gone up across the board, for the most part. Labor is China is up, raw material costs are up, shipping costs are up....
I wouldn't necessarily expect frame revisions simply becausew the price is higher. It could have new routing, but don't use the price as your guide.
but didn't the price of the P2 go down from 2800 to 2600?
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [odin99]
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I just noticed the p2 pricing too. Come on Damon, what's up?
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [rayray]
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I have an 08 p2c and I can't...see...any difference.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and pricing) [James Haycraft]
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James Haycraft wrote:
Sweeney wrote:
How about last year's $1000 off sale, any chance of that returning?Dear God no. Dealers everywhere would rise up in mutiny.
Why? Didn't brand C pay for the discount? The dealers sold a lot of bikes. All they had to do was match pairs together.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [odin99]
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odin99 wrote:
Power13 wrote:
texasforever wrote:
The 2012 P3 with Ultegra sold for $3350. If the 2013 P3 with Ultegra sells for $3800 then it would make sense that they upgraded the cable routing.Not necessarily....prices have gone up across the board, for the most part. Labor is China is up, raw material costs are up, shipping costs are up....
I wouldn't necessarily expect frame revisions simply becausew the price is higher. It could have new routing, but don't use the price as your guide.
but didn't the price of the P2 go down from 2800 to 2600?
Dunno...haven't looked at it. But we also haven't seen final specs, have we?
@ campyrick...agreed that there does not appear to be any cable holes on the DT for the P3. I think it would be odd to upgrade one and not the other. OTOH, I guess they could use it to help drive more differentiation between the two models.
I would have thought they would have made that change awhile ago, though....
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and pricing) [Sweeney]
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Short answer: no.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and pricing) [rayray]
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I'm less interested in the paint and more interested to know if Cervelo has introduced cable routing on the top tube a la P4/S2/S3/S5... anyone know?
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and pricing) [steve_c]
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steve_c wrote:
I'm less interested in the paint and more interested to know if Cervelo has introduced cable routing on the top tubes oftheP2 and P3 a la P4/S2/S3/S5... anyone know?Coaching - Future Endurance
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [tigerpaws]
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+1
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [Carl L]
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I was just at lbs, because this whole cable routing thing has me all excited. I saw a higher resolution photo of the P3 (bad news) and could see the cable entry on the down tube in the black area. Oh well it was fun to think about getting one.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and pricing) [steve_c]
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No
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [rayray]
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Any way you could re post the P3 pic? Tried to click on the link and it expired. I'm dyin here - trying to decide whether to buy my new P3 now or wait for the new one......been waiting 4 years for a new bike and want to make the right decision!
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [Scooter Pickles]
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I'm with you...I got a rocking deal on a R5 build...the 2013s look downright gaudy
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [swalsh81]
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I wouldn't wait for a new P3, they are going up in price. I love the new paint, but not enough to spend 500 more.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [campyrick]
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I've been waiting long engh that I won't mind another 500. Overall build will run around 7-8K so I'll stomach it if I like it more. Just don't know what it looks like. Dying to see a pic. To tell you the truth, I hope I don't like it so I can go ahead and buy the frame now!
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [ATB24]
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Nice!
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [tristevewisco]
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tristevewisco wrote:
Every year their high end road bikes look more and more like tt bikes. Although obviously someone cruising along at a good pace is going to benefit greatly from the aerodynamics, but is it really necessary for the average crit/road racer?Maybe thurn that thought around. Who would buy a bike that takes an extra 5, 10 or 20 watts to pedal at X speed? Not me. I buy the fastest bike my budget can afford. I produce so few watts that I need both of them (the watts) to do the best they can. These days, that's aboard a Cervelo.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [swalsh81]
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swalsh81 wrote:
Any way you could re post the P3 pic? Tried to click on the link and it expired. I'm dyin here - trying to decide whether to buy my new P3 now or wait for the new one......been waiting 4 years for a new bike and want to make the right decision!I second this!
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [Power13]
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [mssssss]
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Crap! Now I have to buy a new phone. Motorola warranty doesn't cover damage from drool...
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and pricing) [rayray]
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I was going to buy a Tarmac but now that I've seen the new colors for the R series I'm going to hold out!
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [mssssss]
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Interesting, $3,800 for a P3 and it *only* comes with Ultegra. I would hope for Dura-Ace at that price point. (Now go ahead and slam the Felt-Fanboy!)
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [mssssss]
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I wish the R3 came with a little more pop of color, a little red wouldn't have been bad.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [Runner Rick]
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Runner Rick wrote:
Interesting, $3,800 for a P3 and it *only* comes with Ultegra. I would hope for Dura-Ace at that price point. (Now go ahead and slam the Felt-Fanboy!)But, as with all other Cervelos, you're paying for the "knowledge" that it's the fastest frame you can buy. Felts are better "deals."
ETA: and Felts are obviously no slouch in the aero department. Their 2013 B series are going to be pretty dang sweet
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and pricing) [rayray]
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Have they gone back to the profile bars as standard equip for next year? Liked the 3t set up quite a bit more. Hard to tell from that pic.
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Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and pricing) [erjordahl]
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erjordahl wrote:
Have they gone back to the profile bars as standard equip for next year? Liked the 3t set up quite a bit more. Hard to tell from that pic.Yes. Much more adjustable.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and pricing) [rayray]
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I'm glad I purchased my R3 this year. That silver/grey R3 is scary looking.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and pricing) [tridoc3]
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At $2600 for a 105 build, that's a big price drop from the 2012 MSRP of $3150 for Rival (down from $3500) -- still, that paint job is just hideous.
Edit (Sept. 7): Cervelo updated their website and the paint job for the 105 version is different than the Ultegra version -- the 105 looks much better to me (no red/black "accents").
Edit (Sept. 7): Cervelo updated their website and the paint job for the 105 version is different than the Ultegra version -- the 105 looks much better to me (no red/black "accents").
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [Runner Rick]
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Runner Rick wrote:
Interesting, $3,800 for a P3 and it *only* comes with Ultegra. I would hope for Dura-Ace at that price point. (Now go ahead and slam the Felt-Fanboy!)Cervelo has always been rather consistent in explaining the difference between the P2 and the P3 to be the seat tube on the P3 being curved...and consistent that the curved seat tube adds $1000 to the price as compared to the P2. They seem to be rather consistent with that story here. So, given that...the pricing seems rather consistent.
Knowing what I know today...I'd pick up a P2 again...like I did in 2009...and I would not upgrade to Dura-Ace from Ultegra...unlike what I did in 2009.
Pick up the P2, get some Flo wheels, and have some change left over...you would have a great, high quality, long lasting ride.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [swalsh81]
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How's this for size? Verifying the downtube cable routing.
Re: 2013 Cervelo's (more pics and prices) [MavenPT]
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I was just curious if anyone has had issues with the carbon frame on your P3 cracking and if so does Cervelo stand behind their "lifetime" warranty??
I have a 2012 P3 that is 9 months old and now has a crack in the BB and one near the seat stay. Took it to the LBS who took pics and sent them to Cervelo 2 weeks ago and we are still waiting for an answer. The LBS said they usually do replace but getting and answer it what takes forever.
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I have a 2012 P3 that is 9 months old and now has a crack in the BB and one near the seat stay. Took it to the LBS who took pics and sent them to Cervelo 2 weeks ago and we are still waiting for an answer. The LBS said they usually do replace but getting and answer it what takes forever.
Thanks
Re: 2013 Cervelo's [BLeP]
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I like the S5 also... as well as all the other paint schemes. Maybe I'm biased though.
yes they should stand behind it, I believe they are working with some new staff members in customer service so it may be taking longer than normal. Press your shop to call back and stay on them, you should be taken care of.