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Could you beat phelps, 200M free
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If you use fins, a wetsuit and snorkels, could you beat phelps in a 200M freestyle race?
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No
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Can I dolphin kick the whole way or do I have to actually do free?

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HELL NO!

Maybe in a speedboat? <cue in Miami Vice theme music>
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Yes........................if he false starts and disqualifies himself.
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Re: Could you beat phelps, 200M free [Dilbert] [ In reply to ]
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Dilbert wrote:
HELL NO!

Maybe in a speedboat? <cue in Miami Vice theme music>

How about using one of these?


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Not bloody likely. He goes, what, 1:42?

This apparently doping (google it) olympian went 1:36:

http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

with just fins but against some folks who also had snorkels, for a world record. Doubt many of us would finish within 6 seconds of that effort.
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Not even with an Evinrude strapped to my ass.

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No but I could destroy that time running 200 on the track....just sayin'
Suck on that Phelps!
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If you use fins, a wetsuit and snorkels, could you beat phelps in a 200M freestyle race?

Possibly, with a monofin. I once saw Pablo Morales go under the world record in a demo at Y-nationals. No strokes required!

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Current wetsuits are not optimized for the higher speed in the pool that are on the starts and turns...

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No but I could destroy that time running 200 on the track....just sayin'
Suck on that Phelps!

You wouldn't even need to run! His best swim is about a 14 min/mile pace. That's how fast I walk.

Humans are really really slow in the water. ;)
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Most of ST would have trouble beating me with all that shit ley alone Phelps.

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I go 1:45 for 100 lol
So he is roughly twice as as I am
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Re: Could you beat phelps, 200M free [Grungir] [ In reply to ]
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I go 1:45 for 100 lol
So he is roughly twice as as I am

Yep. My race pace is 1:40/100. (A yard a second). My best possible effort is 18 or 19 seconds per 25y length, and I don't think I could maintain that for 200!
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No but I could destroy that time running 200 on the track....just sayin'
Suck on that Phelps!

Could you even with fins, a wetsuit and a snorkel? :)
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Dilbert wrote:
SpencerDC wrote:
No but I could destroy that time running 200 on the track....just sayin'
Suck on that Phelps!


You wouldn't even need to run! His best swim is about a 14 min/mile pace. That's how fast I walk.

Humans are really really slow in the water. ;)

thats still probably faster than some people are "running" at the end of an Ironman :)



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Probably not - my all-time 100scy fins-only time was like 51 seconds, though turns are brutal with fins on. Maybe if it was 200m open-water I'd have a chance. It'd be really fun to try. I might have a go at the local LCM pool this weekend...

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Re: Could you beat phelps, 200M free [AHare] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe myself or ericmulk might be able to pull this shit off if we still had some pure swim fitness. I have rarely raced yards but I was under 50 for 100 fly at a dual meet.

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Personally, I'd so no, the average triathlete wouldn't be able to... however, this is what my co-worker just said (he's a two-time Olympian and held two world records in the early 80s):

"A 4th grader would kick his ass with fins. Hell, I'd break the WR in the middle of practice without pulling"

So, I'm taking his word for it.
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Most of ST would have trouble beating me with all that shit ley alone Phelps.


Are there any waves in the water? There is at least 400 feet of visibility right? I can wear my wetsuit - but what if my goggle fog? Can I carry a gel or two under my wetsuit "just in case I need one" half way in?

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200 free relay (4x50) ...??

The fastest 4 swimmers on Slowtwitch??

Need to ave 26.5 for 50M.
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Re: Could you beat phelps, 200M free [Record10Carbon] [ In reply to ]
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Have at'er

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Fastest I've ever gone with fins is a "57 for 100 SCY so I would have to say no...

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No, but I can almost run faster than he swims! Does that count?

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Yes...but only if there are no turns.
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Current wetsuits are not optimized for the higher speed in the pool that are on the starts and turns...

Ya, I think if you used fins alone that would be better. At that kind of speed you'd be super high in the water anyway so the wetsuit would be of no use. Now maybe one of those Jaked speed-suits might be the ticket, like the one you wanted to wear in your last 1500m Masters race:)


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I could *maybe* hang with him the first 100m in fins and a body suit. My kick is the strongest part of my stroke. In scy swam the 100 in like a 47 mid or 48 with fins in practice one day. The turns hurt tremendously for sure. My legs are stronger now, so a fast suit, fins, and good start might get me to 100m with him.

I'm 5'6 though...gigantic disadvantage in the water.

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Back in the day I went a 55.5 (or so) 100 long course meters butterfly with fins and paddles. Freestyle wouldn't have been a lot faster so that only puts me at a 1:50 for the 200 - still 5 seconds behind. I think I would be slower with the wetsuit because of the difficulty doing a fast turn or start. Of course this is with standard Speedo fins... large diving fins or a monofin might give me that little boost needed.

For those using there short course yard times to compare - his 1:45 long course meters coverts to 1:32 short course yards.....

I am a lot slower today but still out of the water top 1% - so I think it is relatively unlikely anyone from ST can do that - and yes I am including the odd pro that hangs around here.

For those using there short course yard times to compare - his 1:45 long course meters coverts to 1:32 short course yards.....

I liked the Shaq vs Phelps episode. I know it was carefully staged but it was entertaining.

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Agreed... jaked is way faster than a tri wettie at high speeds.

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I could *maybe* hang with him the first 100m in fins and a body suit. My kick is the strongest part of my stroke. In scy swam the 100 in like a 47 mid or 48 with fins in practice one day. The turns hurt tremendously for sure. My legs are stronger now, so a fast suit, fins, and good start might get me to 100m with him.

I'm 5'6 though...gigantic disadvantage in the water.

True to some degree but Eric Vendt is only 5'7" and won the silver twice in the 400 IM; in '00 he was 2nd to Tom Dolan with Curtis Myden of Canada (teammate of realAlbertan) in 3rd, and in '04 he was 2nd to Phelps with Laslo Cseh in 3rd. Cseh finished 9th in 400 IM heats last Saturday but he's seeded 2nd in the 200 IM going into tomorrow's final. He's another guy who could push MP and/or RL out if a medal if they are not 100% on.

In any case, going 47 or 48 for 100 SCY is pretty impressive in practice, even with fins.


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I know a certain 16 year old girl who can.............
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I'm thinking fins would just equal out my kick propulsion. After that, I would still need the longer arms, gigantic hands, perfect technique, and ridiculous swim fitness that he has. So no.

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I know a certain 16 year old girl who can.............

Actually I doubt it since Ye "only" split a 1:57 on the 800 relay, don't think fins and a speed-suit are going to buy her 15 seconds in a 200 LCM.


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The days of short folks winning are over. If we went head to head, I would be over a foot behind Phelps or Lochte or Grevers the instant we unfold off the blocks, simply because their reach is that much larger. Last I looks no man under 6'0 owned a WR in swimming lcm.

Swimming in my hometown is ridiculously competitive. Ricky Berens went to a rival high school. My team *only* had D1-caliber swimmers on it.

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Jackb wrote:
I know a certain 16 year old girl who can.............


Actually I doubt it since Ye "only" split a 1:57 on the 800 relay, don't think fins and a speed-suit are going to buy her 15 seconds in a 200 LCM.

Ya, you are right, she can only beat Lochte and not Phelps
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Vendt is listed as 5'11 btw...

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The days of short folks winning are over. If we went head to head, I would be over a foot behind Phelps or Lochte or Grevers the instant we unfold off the blocks, simply because their reach is that much larger. Last I looks no man under 6'0 owned a WR in swimming lcm.

In general you're right but breaststrokers can be the exception. Kitajumi is only 5'10' according to wiki; know that's > 5'6" but look on the bright side, you're more aero on the bike and lighter on the run, all things being equal:)

Swimming in my hometown is ridiculously competitive. Ricky Berens went to a rival high school. My team *only* had D1-caliber swimmers on it.

Did you swim in Austin or Dallas or???


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Charlotte/Huntersville, NC.

Ricky and Tim Berens both swam for South Mecklenburg HS where their mom coached the team. Guys from my team went on to swim at UNC, NCSU, Stanford, USNA/USMA, etc. I believe I was a freshman when Ricky was a Senior. Swimming is huge here in NC. All of the rich schools have great teams.

I train in the same pool as the Team Elite guys from Swim Mac, and I've even gotten to swim with a few of them at my neighborhood pool. The swimming culture around here is huge.

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The days of short folks winning are over.

Damn, I thought Park was shorter but he's 6'0" apparently.

(I see what you did there)

Always cheered for him & Kitajima...gave us "little guys" (5'10") hope.

Order seems to have been restored at this meet tho :(



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Charlotte/Huntersville, NC.

Ricky and Tim Berens both swam for South Mecklenburg HS where their mom coached the team. Guys from my team went on to swim at UNC, NCSU, Stanford, USNA/USMA, etc. I believe I was a freshman when Ricky was a Senior. Swimming is huge here in NC. All of the rich schools have great teams.

I train in the same pool as the Team Elite guys from Swim Mac, and I've even gotten to swim with a few of them at my neighborhood pool. The swimming culture around here is huge.

Hmm, didn't realize swimming was so big in NC; I'm just across the mtns from you in Knoxville, TN. Swimming is moderately big here with Pilot Swim Club boasting 5 or 6 Trials swimmers this year. Davis Tarwater and Claire Donahue on the current team are Pilot alumni. Also of course, U. of TN has a good team most yrs, but not quite at the Stanford/Auburn/TX level. SwimMAC is big-time though with Cullen Jones, etc.


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Pete wrote:
ZackC. wrote:
The days of short folks winning are over.


Damn, I thought Park was shorter but he's 6'0" apparently.

(I see what you did there)

Always cheered for him & Kitajima...gave us "little guys" (5'10") hope.

Order seems to have been restored at this meet tho :(

According to Wiki back in '08, and I remember looking him up cause he was so skinny, Park was 5'9" and 130 lbs in 2008 when he won the 400 free and was 2nd to MP in 200 free. So, either Wiki was wrong or he's grown 3" and gained 30 lbs in past 4 yrs, which is possible since at present he's only 22, so was only 18 in '08. Still, it appears that a very skinny, 5'9" guy did win the 400 free in 3:41.86 just 4 yrs ago.

Also, I'm just giving this input FYI. I don't really have a "dog in this fight" since I'm about 6'2" and 175.


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Oh yeah. It is huge. At the predominantly white schools swimming gets as much attention as basketball or football when the school is doing particularly well. The big high school conference here actually turns out tons of college prospects in all of the country club sports.

Back to swimming though....Cullen, Brendan Hansen, Nick Thoman and a couple of girls whose names escape me all train here. MAC brought something like 40 swimmers to Trials this year. Granted, there were some kids that barely got their trials cut in HS included in that number, but lots of really solid competition as well.

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Of course I would beat him! Kick him, punch him, bitch slap him, whatever it takes to get the upper hand!
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Oh yeah. It is huge. At the predominantly white schools swimming gets as much attention as basketball or football when the school is doing particularly well. The big high school conference here actually turns out tons of college prospects in all of the country club sports.

Back to swimming though....Cullen, Brendan Hansen, Nick Thoman and a couple of girls whose names escape me all train here. MAC brought something like 40 swimmers to Trials this year. Granted, there were some kids that barely got their trials cut in HS included in that number, but lots of really solid competition as well.

For sure, 40 to the Trials is huge and Cullen, Hansen, and Thoman have all won at least one medal so far, with another prob to come on the medley relay. IMO, anyone who qualifies for the Trials is an outstanding swimmer.


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Another interesting question would be "If the pool was 25m, would he lap you in a 200m race?". For most people the answer would be yes.

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Vendt is listed as 5'11 btw...

Ya, just checked Wiki and you're right. Stupid on my part, I was quoting from someone's post on ST:)


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wait so you're saying if someone had to only do 25m and phelps 200, phelps would beat them? You would literally have to be a paraplegic kickboarding with your tiny nubs to lose that one.


As for the original poster... no, I couldn't...

oh wait, I don't have fins or paddles so that makes it that much harder..
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His feet are bigger than my fins

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AJHull wrote:
Another interesting question would be "If the pool was 25m, would he lap you in a 200m race?". For most people the answer would be yes.

Since MP could go 1:40 in 25m pool, he could prob lap a lot of people twice in a race w/o fins or other aids, some people even three times:) To not get lapped at all, you'd have to go under 2:13 for the 200 SCM or about 2:00 flat for 200 SCY, which is very fast in the tri world. Just "respectable" in swimming world, IMO, but very fast in tri-world.


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The days of short folks winning are over. If we went head to head, I would be over a foot behind Phelps or Lochte or Grevers the instant we unfold off the blocks, simply because their reach is that much larger. Last I looks no man under 6'0 owned a WR in swimming lcm.

Swimming in my hometown is ridiculously competitive. Ricky Berens went to a rival high school. My team *only* had D1-caliber swimmers on it.


how tall is tae hwan park? he appears to be bang on 6ft but he is one of the best in the world over 200m and 400m free. lots of breaststrokers are not that tall height wise...kitajima is not tall.

some of the fastest guys in the world are not that big..clement lefert of the french gold medal winning 4x100 free team is only 1.85m and 68kgs, then again, some are massive. i always used to think cameron van der burgh was massive as well, but turns out he isn't


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also mike barrowman former 200 breast world record holder (and one of the instigators of much of the breast style we see these days) was only 5ft11. he swam 200m breast faster than 99.5% of this board swim 200m free
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Park is 5'10; As for Lefert, 1.85m=6'1. Van def Burgh is only 1cm shorter than lefert.

Kitajima is 5'10, and he lost to Gyurta who is 6'0. I'm telling you...you have to be tall to be a fast swimmer---6-foot is basically the cutoff for the Men's podium. For every exception, I can point out 10 guys that do fit the bill.

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with lefert, he is only the size of many top triathletes..ie 67kgs, he is not that tall in the scheme of sprinters...ie 15cms (maybe more?) shorter than someone like agnell, and he went sub 48secs for 100 free in the relay (based on the very quick maths i did). there are super muscly sprinters, than there are the ones who look like greyhounds (who are usually more of a 100/200 mix as opposed to 50/100)

if people who are 5ft11 to 6ft1 can swim that fast, there is no reason why others slightly shorter can't swim really fast also - ie when you hear triathletes complain they can't swim fast cos they aren't big enough. and then you have some of the girls, who aren't exactly big at all (and some who are...)

(my excuse is i have chick hands hah)
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If I was like Shaq and got a 125m head start.

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Answers to questions and a few comments...

1.) An elite ST 4x50 relay probably beats Phelps -- the ex-WR ave pace was 25.7 -- if we cut the exchanges close.
2.) ZackC.'s fin-aided 47 sec over 100 yard pace wouldn't keep up with Phelps first 100 pace. (~43.90/100scy)
3.) 100meter w/ fins = yeah baby! 200meter w/ fins = OMG, I can't feel my legs!
4.) At those speeds triathlon pros aren't helping us much -- too weak.
5.) Snorkel? Forget the snorkel.
6.) Wetsuits aren't optimized for pool swimming, but I think in a 50m pool you'd be better off wearing a good one. (Just my guess)
7.) Maybe Ye Shiwen will start posting here soon, and we'll have more of a chance. =)
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I think that probably only Gary Hall Sr could manage a 25.7 LCM. I can't think of any other former world class swimmers on here, but that is the kind of time that even a well-trained elite triathlete couldn't likely do without a month or more of dedicated speed work. Now a 4x50 relay that gets fins...that could pull if off. To be fair though, Phelps went that time in a LZR. He is more like 1:45 now, which is a more pedestrian 1:33 or 1:32 in scy. Rested, I could pull off a 46 with fins and a really nice suit I'm sure, but there would be no 2nd 100 for me, whereas Phelps goes on to make it look easy. Truly incredible what he does.

If I get both legs amputated after a horrible accident, I'll make sure I get some bitchin foot prosthetics that work like fins and that make me a foot taller. Then I'll go bitch to the IOC about how I should be allowed to compete.
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As luck would have it, I went 25.65 LCM last month. =)
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if people who are 5ft11 to 6ft1 can swim that fast, there is no reason why others slightly shorter can't swim really fast also - ie when you hear triathletes complain they can't swim fast cos they aren't big enough. and then you have some of the girls, who aren't exactly big at all (and some who are...)
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This is one big logical fallacy though. I've already explained how height is a disadvantage the instant the race starts. There is no shortage of people who swim really fast. It is the tall ones who also swim really fast that win medals though. Short people lose out on start length, distance per stroke, kick propulsion, and probably form drag too---as I said to someone else, there are a few exceptions (I.e guys that are a 5'11-6'0), but for every one of them there are ten guys closer to 6'4. Those guys that are 6' or less are exceptions. Their body barely let's them compete at that level. They are compensating for it with either better than elite technique or training. The slippery slope argument doesn't work on me...just because one 5'11 dude wins one medal does not mean that someone who is 5'6 has even a prayer of winning.

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Re: Could you beat phelps, 200M free [ZackC.] [ In reply to ]
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I agree on the height issue.

However, let's not mix up a triathlon swim and world class pool freestyle.
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Davis Tarwater and Claire Donahue on the current team are Pilot alumni.

Tarwater is at SwimMac now.
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Re: Could you beat phelps, 200M free [125mph] [ In reply to ]
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125mph wrote:
If you use fins, a wetsuit and snorkels, could you beat phelps in a 200M freestyle race?

No. In high school I could swim 53 or maybe a touch below for 100 scy. We had a kid on our team that swam the 200 scy free in about 1:42 or so. He went on to swim at the local DivIII college and his 200 free record is still there at 1:42 something.

I remember one time putting on fins and trying to swim with him. I barely was able to keep up/hang with him for just over 50 yds for a 100 free. I'm not sure how hard he was trying, but I was going all out.

I think the snorkel and wetsuit would make it harder though, personally....


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Re: Could you beat phelps, 200M free [SH] [ In reply to ]
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SH wrote:
As luck would have it, I went 25.65 LCM last month. =)

I went 25.63 3 years ago with a decent but not ton of training. Pretty sure I could do it again in a couple of weeks.

While GH Sr. record speaks for itself, I don't think he could still go under 26 in a 50. Maybe I am wrong.
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Goosedog wrote:
ericmulk wrote:
Davis Tarwater and Claire Donahue on the current team are Pilot alumni.


Tarwater is at SwimMac now.

Right, that's why I said they are alumni, i.e., swam for Pilot growing up and through high school.


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ericmulk wrote:
Goosedog wrote:
ericmulk wrote:
Davis Tarwater and Claire Donahue on the current team are Pilot alumni.


Tarwater is at SwimMac now.


Right, that's why I said they are alumni, i.e., swam for Pilot growing up and through high school.

Sorry, wasn't trying to be argumentative. I think I just misread your post.
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Re: Could you beat phelps, 200M free [Goosedog] [ In reply to ]
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Goosedog wrote:
ericmulk wrote:
Goosedog wrote:
ericmulk wrote:
Davis Tarwater and Claire Donahue on the current team are Pilot alumni.


Tarwater is at SwimMac now.


Right, that's why I said they are alumni, i.e., swam for Pilot growing up and through high school.


Sorry, wasn't trying to be argumentative. I think I just misread your post.

No problem, it's a little confusing since Davis grew up swimming here for Pilot but now he's at MAC, which what ZackC. was talking about. He came by the club I swim at a couple of years ago in the summer, but he didn't get in the water; guess he was just hanging out with his old friends. We have a 6-lane, 25m outdoor pool so in summer there are lots of people around the pool who never actually swim:)


"Anyone can be who they want to be IF they have the HUNGER and the DRIVE."
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Re: Could you beat phelps, 200M free [realAlbertan] [ In reply to ]
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realAlbertan wrote:
Most of ST would have trouble beating me with all that shit ley alone Phelps.

LOL, but true.

Best bet is fins + the old, now outlawed, suits.

For what it's worth, I did an all-out 50scm with fins, from a push at the end of my last swim workout and was only a 26 low, and I don't think I could keep that pace up for another 150m.

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Re: Could you beat phelps, 200M free [realAlbertan] [ In reply to ]
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realAlbertan wrote:
Most of ST would have trouble beating me with all that shit ley alone Phelps.

I think you overestimate the swimming talents of most of ST ;)

I'm sure I would have trouble beating you with all that shit and I would guess most of ST would have trouble beating my best 200 time (~2:10 scy). The real question is how far down does the stack go? Could someone who couldn't beat me with fins still beat most of ST w/ fins?
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only in my dream
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