Extensions. It fixed by two screws each and it is not enough. At least in my case? Let me know if you have same probs when you get to this stage of your bike building. Will try to post fotos.

Not familiar with your bike or problem. But it sounds like the clamp is slightly larger than the extensions. A shim of electrical tape or a slice of an aluminum soda can might be the trick to tightening that gap up a smidgen

But that's just my answer from my couch at the moment

Tim

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Hmm, interesting. One of mine on my E114 came loose on teh course recce at IMNZ 2 weeks ago. Rough road, but had been fine up to then. The actual bolt in the bottom kept working loose, even after I stopped and tightened. I'm hoping a mix of threadlock and carbon paste will do the trick.

I'd loctite/carbon paste every bolt on your Argon. I previously had a E114 and had problems with lots of things rattling loose (bars, extensions, front derailleur mount, etc.) even after tightening and just a short ride. Loctite fixed everything, it's a must do on Argons.

you mean the whole extension and elbow pad support unit moves/rotates inwards and outwards (transverse plane) don't you? yep, i've seen it.
couldn't happen on the 114 as the elbow pads were essentially bolted to the basebar, not to a unit 'supported' by 2 long bolts.
apparently argon have a fix coming out very very soon.

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All E118s have this problem, which seems to worsen the more spacers you put under the bar. We asked A18 and that was the answer we got :(

I have the E118 and "fixed" it by installing a Xlabs Torpedo (between arms bottle mount) which then fixes the bars´horizontal movement. The bars are fixed Alu-to-alu, so you can tighten those screws a lot. I can only come to think as this as a design issue, which to me seems totally weird! Sorry for the bad news. Tom

Someone posted the recall notice yesterday applicable to the NZ/Aus market for this very issue.

Hola Mulen,

If you are saying excessive lateral flex with max spacers, we are working on an accessory computer mount. This will act as a brace and stabilize the bars. We are awaiting production to be ready and will likely ship to our distributors in 30-45 days.

Note though that the flex is perceived more when the bike is not with rider in motion where it takes very little force to turn the wheel.

If it is another isue, message me but I am travelling to Taipei tomorrow so will check in early next week.

If anyone else has a question please go ahead but try to be as specific as possible in your description.

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Privyet,
If you are saying extension bars are loose/can't be tightened, you may have received bars that should be replced under warranty. Depending on how certain early production bars are cut have an area that was not reinforced enough.

Please contact your retailer for replacement. If it is easier, message me and I will get it followed up for you.

Note that you can always go to our website for info and email us with any product questions at http://www.argon18bike.com.

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You are a 'vrai patenteur' as we would say in Québec! ...good thing

Guys, we post our Assembly Guide on our website, we have made some modifications to stem bolt torques (top 6, bottom 8), changed bolts and the new spacer fix so make sure you are using the latest reference matierial.

Use of carbon paste is a must with all carbon on carbon components....but you guys don't need anyone telling you that!

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You are a 'vrai patenteur' as we would say in Québec! ...good thing

Guys, we post our Assembly Guide on our website, we have made some modifications to stem bolt torques (top 6, bottom 8), changed bolts and the new spacer fix so make sure you are using the latest reference matierial.

Could you give me the link. Cos on homepage of Argon nothing changed in Assemble guide . Sorry, missed, you mentioned stem bolt torques.

I m waiting for the new redesigned set of brackets wich argon presents in Taipei this time. Hope this will solve the problem. Dealer which sold me the bike promised to send it to me shortly.
Did not use this bike in Adu Dhabi unfortunately .

I face the same problem. The aerobars are moving ( horizontal). And the Argon local assistance is claiming it is normal !!

I wrote to Argon Canada and expect that they will react !!

I ve sent the request to Head office of Argon Canada three weeks ago, but have no reply yet.
The dealer which sold me the bike reacted very fast, expect to have the set to solve the problem in 5-7 days. Will check how it works then post description .
But in general, I think it is not fair from Argon side. This is one of the most expensive bike on the market ( I paid 11k usd with Zipp 808 and DI2 dura ace) and having this problem just damaging Argons reputation.

I'm within a couple of days of ordering an E 118, but would really appreciate some positive feedback first from buyers who have this aerobar issue solved. On a bike this expensive I don't want to fiddle around myself, it ought to be perfect when I buy it.

To be honest, there is a problem with the aerobars. The erection of the bike has been checked and approved by Argon local assistance but the aeorobars are moving. The Argon local assistance told to my bike retailer that the movement was normal !!

I can accept that Argon has a problem with the aerobars and that they need to change some parts but, I am upset that they ignore the problem.

( the cosmetic spacer cover recall is not linked to my problem and is not a big deal).

Argon solves this issue or, I send the bike back....

the problem isn't with the stem (other than the recall on the spacer!!), but with the extension fitting, (with the 2 vertical bolts per side). With any riser spacers it is impossible to stop the extension fitting rotating left/right, so bar ends move together and apart!

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I agree the design with 2 vertical bolts (aligned with the extension fitting) is too weak. A design with 3 bolts in triangle would have been safer ( but then there would have been very little side adjustements possibilities).
I am not confortable with the aerobars even without riser spacer.

Today, ESM ( the Importer for Argon in France) had accepted that there is a problem. They mentionned that they ( Argon18) are working to design a new piece that would improve the system. A part will improve the system.

They also mentionned that we perceive a high flex in the aerobar when we are static and that it is not that bad when we are on the bike.
[ I will reply to them - in curve , it is unconfortable!!]

Re: East-West movement of extension bars some of you may be experiencing at raised position:

We are in the midst of producing a computer mount that will be shipped to all our distributors/dealers world-wide in the coming weeks. This will not only be a good accessory for your computer set-up but also serve as a bridge between the bars as it is designed by Argon 18 specifically for our configuration.

We do want to maintain as much adjustability as possible and this is a common issue with spacers installed however it is much more noticeable when the bike is stationary without a rider in motion. It takes very little force to turn the wheel in motion. That said we are providing a solution for this, it is coming soon, we will advise our retailers as to shipping timing in the coming weeks. It should be available at your LBS in May however we are working to get it done sooner.

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Jeff;

Do you have a drawing or rendering of the new solution? Will it interfere with hydration systems that are mounted between the aero extensions?

Don

The idea was really for a computer mount as an added accessory so we hadn't planned on issuing drawings etc. It's really simple, carbon bar cut to integrate into the extension bar spec, attached to the bars with tie wraps so it can be mounted wherever your set-up needs it to be. The added benefit is that for those who raise the bar will no longer experience any horizontal extension bar movement.

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Is the Computer Mount available now?

The computer mount is available ( 1 year approx). At least, it avoids the flex but creates problem with front hydratation system.

Where can I get one?

Contact your local Argon 18 dealer and they should be able to hook you up.

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Cheers I've managed to get one from iRide the UK importer.

Hello to all
I also bought a 118e I had the same problem of the rotation of the handlebar on its mounting point.
My dealer I installed the new sram red with new zipp firecrest 404 and 808 and I have problems with the brake adjustment and contact between the rear wheel and frame.
You as you have solved?

[/reply]The rear brake problem can be solved by removing one or 2 spacers. The bike is delivered with spacers 1mm and 2mm. You can remove them both if necessary.
I admit that the brakes are not easy to adjust but, with the time you will manage.

Thanks Pingben
This evening I will control it, I'm also in contact with Jeff, of Argon.

I had the same problem with sideways movement of the bars. Movement was considerable and the bolts under the left pad seemed to come loose during any ride over 40 km or if I hit a big pothole. I tried the profile designs water bottle and mounting bracket up front between the bars with the bottle mount zip tied around the extensions. This worked pretty well but after longer rides I still noticed some play. I finally inverted the bottle mount, mounting the bracket upside down but still forward facing, and got a much tighter connection of bracket to extension. 2 zip ties on each side and all is good-no movement and bolts are still tight after very long rides. The only drawback is that moving the bracket as such will tilt the bottle enough that some liquid may prove difficult to access with the straw(maybe an ounce or so).

Hi SlowAmericano
Can you post some photo?

Sure- I should have them up by tonight

I have not experienced this issue to an extent that id be worried. There is minimal movement jsut due to tolerance of the assembly, but theres really no way for the bars to rotate is isntalled properly. Make sure the indentations are going into the basebar properly, and they are torqued down well.

I also run a BTA bottle setup which adds some stiffness but I didnt always have it

Is it possible to replace the fork in the 2012 Argon E118? Is the headset standard size?

The reason I ask is that I would be able to
1. Use a standard front brake caliper
2. Have greater fitting flexibility (stem)
3. POSSIBLY shave a little weight off

* I understand that this would basically be the E116 set up then...
* I understand that I would lose the aero advantages of the argon -bayonet fork

P.S. absolutely love the bike.

Thanks for the love!

As for the fork swap-no it's not possible. The main issue is not the bearings as they are the same. The issue would be with the shape of the E-116's rear head/section of the fork which is larger in diameter than the one on the E-118. So using the E-116 fork on the E-118 would reduce the turning angle and rub on the frame, making it impossible to steer the bike properly.

Re weight; note that lighter materials are used in the E-118 vs the E-116
Re fitting; stem is adjustable as well as pads, so you should be able to achieve any reach between 65-95 mm's
Re brakes; aero V brakes=enormous stopping power

Any further questions, just message me with your email as I am not on here often.

Thanks for the support of our product!

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Hi, i am lucas. I have a question abt getting an extension bar holder replacement.
My shipper lost both the extension bar holders in a shipment to overseas. I have been trying to find for replacement in order for me to race in the coming up ironman 70.3 in April. Now my bike is incomplete. Any advice?

can mail me at seowfung at yahoo dot com

lucas

Contact Argon directly. If you have no local dealers, you can order from them directly.