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I think HED rates anything with runout <0.03" as an top grade wheel. Anything beyond that, and you will feel a hop (mine is 0.032, and I can notice it, but only at very high speeds, or when my bike is in the workstands and I rev up the wheel)). Trueness won't cause a hop.
There are some HED employees on ST, hopefully they can chime in.
I'm very interested in this thread b/c I'm considering purchasing a new set of H3 clinchers.
I don't wanna hop and I'm willing to purchase new from authorized dealer to avoid issues.
It's difficult to believe that anyone would even considering buying/selling a wheel that is known to have performance flaws (short of blowout pricing).
Buying new from a dealer makes no difference. The wheel is the wheel. You get what you get.
I bought HED3, 650C pair, from a dealer about 2 years ago and the front is arguably perfect for trueness and roundness (I can't detect any fault with either on the front wheel)
The rear wheel has a slight wobble (out of true by a tiny tiny bit), but the roundness is not particularly impressive IMHO. It's within somebody's tolerance, but not mine. I downhill like a man with no brain and it becomes apparent at speed. At normal speeds (up to say 60kph or so) I don't consider it a problem, but over 60 it can be felt for sure.
I have found that if I mark the high spot of the wheel, and mount the tire carefully. I can scooch (technical term) the tire just a bit, on the rim, to fix almost all the difference, to minimize it. Not ideal of course, but works well enough.
Regardless, still great wheels and I love them to bits. I just wish I could love them that little bit more.
TriDork
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