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I'm spending two months in Whistler, June, July and some of August. I am an experienced rider but weak on hills and elevation gain due to the area of the US I live in. Was deeply humbled by my first two hour ride yesterday. I would love a riding partner who is patient with my level of ability. I do not work and have a completely flexible schedule. I'm 45, weak on hills but not a whiner. Looking for some good company for road biking. Any takers???
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Two months in Whistler not working?!?! I am so jealous.



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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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I'm going to try to get up your way one weekend, I'll be sure to PM you well in advance ;-) AP

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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You might want to check out the Whistler Tri Club
http://www.whistlertriclub.ca/
I've met many nice people from there at races.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Miranda] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Miranda, I actually had thought of that and did check out their website. The local scene is pretty hard core and I hesitate to do a group ride at this point. By the end of summer, I would be comfortable. Not afraid to get dropped, but also don't want to hold other people's ride back. I'm running Comfortably Numb next weekend and then totally focusing on my riding for awhile. Rode with the husband this morning who usually mountain bikes, it was nice to have some company. I just need more time in the saddle on hills. This is a great chance to work hard and improve.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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While I can't offer myself up as a riding partner, I can offer some (lower car traffic) route suggestions. I lived in Lillooet for almost 10 years (approx 2 hours up Hwy 99 from Whistler) and am very familiar with the surrounding area. The distances shown are one-way.

The ride from Whistler to Pemberton on Hwy 99 would be quite challenging (35 km). The road surface is good, there are lots of hills and traffic is considerably lighter than south of Whistler. I'm pretty sure you can load your bike on a bus for a return trip if you want.

If you want a very light traffic, relatively flat but scenic ride (40+ km), try Pemberton to D'Arcy at the south end of Anderson Lake, or Pemberton to Lillooet Lake (20 km).

The ultimate trip (100 km) is from Pemberton to Lillooet. Again, low traffic (except for the odd rental motorhome, but gas prices should keep them away). There are some extremely challenging climbs: from Lillooet Lake up to Duffy Lake; and just west of Lillooet. I highly recommend this route, even as a day trip in a car, it's one of the nicest in the province (drivers get a little bit white-knuckled the first time, but slow down around all corners to the recommended speed and it's fine). I suspect the road surface may be rough, all the province's road repair budget is going to Hwy 99 south of Whistler and I haven't driven it since last March. Here's a picture of the Hwy 99 along Duffy Lake.



If you have kids, a really good place to take them for a long day hike is Joffre Lakes provincial park. It's a series of three glacial lakes that you can hike to from the highway between Lillooet Lake and Duffy Lake. It's a bit of a slog getting up to the second and third lakes, but well worth it. Come prepared for extremes in weather (I think the elevation change is 400m in the 5.5 km to the upper lake). You can camp overnight at the upper lake (but probably not until later in July or August would it be recommended). I hear it is packed on the long weekend in August, so go mid-week if you can.


I hope you have a wonderful couple of months in Whistler and get out and explore some of the surrounding areas away from the crowds. You don't have to go far to get away from them.

Sharon
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Sharon] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you so much! You really do know the area well. I have driven Duffy Lake back to Whistler in the car. It is indeed very beautiful. I have started to ride to Pemberton but not made it all the way. Knew I had to ride back so I turned about half way. I have drove over there and rode the valley road and also ran that road. We went over to Chilcotin Mountains last sumemr and drive back through Lilloet to Whistler. I'm doing better on the bike. My husband told me he would take some time off the mountain bike and do some longer rides with me. I'll get there! This is truly the most beautiful place I have ever been in my life. Thanks again.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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I can't help you at all - with routes or a partner at the moment, but I am thinking about heading up that way for the Pemberton festival at the end of July and would still need to train. I will definitely send ya a message if I ending up going up there.

I am totally jealous of you! :)


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [cuds] [ In reply to ]
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I am also doing the Pemberton Festival. I'm older than you by 20 years so not sure if I could keep up with you on a training ride, but I'm always game and not afraid to get dropped. We have the three day tickets. I do intend to ride my bike those days though. I have my first half looming and I can't afford to take three days off. We are not camping over there. I like my bed at night. If you want to ride or need any help transporting your bike over there (I have a big Ford Expedition) PM me before the festival. Have you seen the Flaming Lips in concert before? They are great live!!
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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You're welcome to PM me if you ever need any other backcountry info. I worked for an environmental consulting company and have been in most of the drainages in the Lillooet, Goldbridge, Bralorne areas. Road riding around there is limited to the main highways but on a mountain bike you can go to some amazing places.

Sorry the Joffre lakes pic didn't work (I'm kinda new to this posting thing), just google it and you'll find lots of info. The official BC parks site is : http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/.../parkpgs/joffre.html

When you said you drove over the Chilcotins, did you drive over the Hurley and through the Bridge River Valley? If so good on ya. I remember the first time I drove from Lillooet to Gold Bridge, I almost turned around out of fear (I'm originally a flatlander too).
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The ultimate trip (100 km) is from Pemberton to Lillooet. Again, low traffic (except for the odd rental motorhome, but gas prices should keep them away). There are some extremely challenging climbs: from Lillooet Lake up to Duffy Lake; and just west of Lillooet. I highly recommend this route, even as a day trip in a car, it's one of the nicest in the province (drivers get a little bit white-knuckled the first time, but slow down around all corners to the recommended speed and it's fine). I suspect the road surface may be rough, all the province's road repair budget is going to Hwy 99 south of Whistler and I haven't driven it since last March. Here's a picture of the Hwy 99 along Duffy Lake.


I smell a ROAD TRIP!!! I've been disappointed for a while that Hwy99 between Vancouver and Whistler is so sketchy as to be pretty much unrideable. And for me, that's saying something. Whistler to Lilooet (and back?) however, would be an awesome weekend! I'm not seeing much on the map North of Pemberton... Would one need to be completely self-sufficient for the trip or are there places to stop for water/food?


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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I remember when we went to Goldbridge there was NOTHING to eat. My kids were starving and the livestock feed store wasn't even open for business because they were receiving a delivery. We had to drive on. There was a grocery store in Lilloet where we stocked up the car. My husband said if we got a group together to ride this, he would SAG wagon for us. I know I would struggle on that ride right now, but could hopefully pull it off by end of July. If you're serious let's pick a date and make plans. I feel excited just thinking about it! It would be a great training ride for my Timberman Half.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Sharon] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, we drove over Hurley. People seemed amazed, but most of the snow was gone and we had a good time with that drive. I was so surprised how different the Chilcotins were compared to the Coast mountains. There were times we felt like we were in Utah. This area is so diverse and so breathtakingly beautiful! We did a four day horse pack trip in the Chilcotins, grizzly bears and all. I would have liked to hike the trip, but my kids were 9 and 12 at the time, thus the horses. BC, too much to see, too little time! This is our fourth summer to spend in the Whistler area and we are still finding jewels. Going over to Tyax Resort next week so husband can do heli mountain biking. I'm sure it will be mind blowing. We will be driving Hurley Pass again. If we drive back via Lillooet, I will pay special attention to the road and any possible stops.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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Now that Pemberton has boomed, there is quite a bit of shopping there (and finally a decent washroom). Mt. Currie had a decent restaurant and a corner store, but from there to Lillooet there is nothing. There are outhouses at Joffre Lakes and several of the Forest Service rec sites along the Duffy (which is what the locals call Hwy 99 from Lillooet to Mt. Currie). I have drank from most of the streams that flow into Cayoosh Creek (the river the hwy follows) and would not hesitate to do so again, they are quite pristine, so water isn't an issue. You will need to pack all your food.

There are two relatively large grocery stores in Lillooet (large for a town of 2500) and a great greek restaurant (what small BC town doesn't have one) and a couple of decent Inns and B&B's. Just don't miss the turnoff Hwy 99 that takes you up into the town itself. If you go over the big bridge across the Fraser River, you missed it.

I would recommend you drive it first. From Vancouver it's a great circle tour that can be done in a day: up hwy99 to Whistler & Lillooet, then hwy 12 to Lytton and hwy 1 to Hope and home again. The direction of travel depends on the time of the week you are going. It's great going up or down the sea-to-sky against the weekend traffic flow. I use to love listening to the traffic reports after a day of skiing, while we drove home to Lillooet on an almost empty highway.

Again, I'm not sure about the road surface conditions, I certainly wouldn't use your best racing wheels. It would be more suited for a touring bike or even a mountain bike with slicks. But as Diva mentioned, maybe she can check it out too.

I hope I've inspired a road trip, have fun, I miss the mountains.

sharon
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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My husband said if we got a group together to ride this, he would SAG wagon for us. I know I would struggle on that ride right now, but could hopefully pull it off by end of July. If you're serious let's pick a date and make plans. I feel excited just thinking about it! It would be a great training ride for my Timberman Half.

I'm totally serious! July is a little hairy for me but I could make either the 1st or 2nd weekend in August. Bearing in mind that the 1st weekend in Aug is a long weekend, I don't know if that's better or worse - probably better for scheduling, and worse for traffic. But seriously, even with a long weekend - how much traffic can there really be once you get North of Pemberton? Or Whistler, even? I think either would be good.

I'm sure we can get Andy & P to come along, and maybe some other local STers as well. It's gotta be a great pre IMC ride...


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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The weekend of Aug 01 would be great. I have to return to Texas Aug 06, then I'm heading up to New Hampshire for Timberman. To do such an epic ride two weeks before Timberman would be an incredible boost for me physically and mentally. Knowing I'm going to do this ride will give me even more motivation to work my butt off in the next six weeks. I have never planned a ride like this, would need help with the logistics, but I have a willing driver who is handy with tools and repairs and a big, gas guzzling Ford Expedition to haul food and gear. I wonder if there is cell phone reception in the middle of that area? I'll check it out. I can also email the Whistler Tri Club and possibly get a few more tips to make it a fool proof experience. My friends and I always laugh about the folders we make for races. I feel a folder coming on for this ride.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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There is cell service in Lillooet, for Telus subscribers, Rogers users are S.O.L. - or at least they use to be. I highly suspect there will be no service once you begin the climb at either end.

Keep us (me) informed if you do the ride.

Sharon
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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Oh man, this would be awesome. I'd be all over it - I'm doing IMC so it would be a great time to get out and do an awesome assisted ride with some great people. Consider me in if we can make it a go! :D


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The weekend of Aug 01 would be great.

I have never planned a ride like this, would need help with the logistics, but I have a willing driver who is handy with tools and repairs and a big, gas guzzling Ford Expedition to haul food and gear. I wonder if there is cell phone reception in the middle of that area? I'll check it out. I can also email the Whistler Tri Club and possibly get a few more tips to make it a fool proof experience. My friends and I always laugh about the folders we make for races. I feel a folder coming on for this ride.

Awesome! It sounds like we've got a target date and with several later season races on the board hopefully the timing will work out for a lot of people. As far as logistics goes, that is definitively not my specialty (just ask Andy). I'm more of a "fly by the seat of your pants" kind of guy, so while I'd be more than happy to support you and contribute to your planning, I'm not the one to actually make things happen beforehand. Google Maps has the trip as 130km, so we're likely in for a good 6hrs if the terrain is anywhere close to what I'd guess we'll find. Bring bailout gears!

The nice thing about a ride that "short" is that we won't have to leave at the crack of dawn, and ought to be there in time for a nice dinner - assuming "nice dinners" are to be found in Lillooet. :)


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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No worries. I am a very anal planner. I am working on the details already and my coach will probably give me some kind of check list. She has planned many longer rides and directed many races. I also emailed the Whistler tri club for further advice and details. When I get something together, I will post it. I'm riding it with or without company. Company would be great though. I'll post more in a week. Going mountain biking next week and probably won't have internet access.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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Dude I think we could be in, but 1st weekend is definitely better - we're doing the apple on the 17th.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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Yes Khai, I see that.

I'm sure we can get Andy & P to come along, and maybe some other local STers as well. It's gotta be a great pre IMC ride...[/reply]
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [YVR K] [ In reply to ]
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I just saw this thread, I live in Whistler and am a member of the Whistler TRI Club. We are not all hard core as a previous poster mentioned! (;-)

I have never ridden that road, but have driven it many times, there is one very big hill climb that you would probably need an extra gear for. I have always wanted to ride it, so if you guys, oops i mean gals do arrange this i am sure there would be a few of us not so hard core whistler triahtletes that would love to join you.

Keep us informed

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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Would we ride there and drive back? or stay overnight and ride back the next day?

It might be do-able for us, just checking our skeds.

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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In... but I'm at Xterra in WA the long weekend. Other weekends in Aug would work. Keep me posted (PM/Email is better because I don't read all the threads in all the forums!)
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [AndyPants] [ In reply to ]
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Would we ride there and drive back? or stay overnight and ride back the next day?

I'd be interested in riding both ways, but we could have flexible options for those with schedule constraints.


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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I just returned from a week honeymoon in Whistler. All I can say is that I am so jealous of all of you that live in that vicinity. Wow is it gorgeous! I wish I could live near by and ride with you :)

(I will say that all of the construction for Olympic prep might make riding a bit sketchy on some of 99. Man did it take forever to get from Vancouver to Whistler with the construction!)

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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Route Recon Update:

I was up at Callaghan this past weekend (just South of Whistler) and stopped in Squamish on the way. I chatted with a guy in the bike shop for a while and paid closer attention than usual to the shoulder - it's pretty good all the way from Squamish North. There are a few places where due to construction it's gone (or gravel), but for the most part it's solid (and nicely paved).

If anyone wants, a Squamish to Lillooet ride would be 190k - and a challenging ride to boot. Adding the Squamish leg tacks on about 60k.


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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I have been riding Whistler to Pemberton and back. The shoulder on that section is also decent. I am still struggling on my hills. It obviously takes longer than 4 weeks to make gains on riding these kinds of hills. I'm still game to attempt a long ride and my husband said he would drive our vehicle to support the ride. That first weekend of August still looks good. Stay in touch and lets get a definitive plan going.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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What gearing do you have on your bike? As I'm sure you're well aware, there are some significant climbs on that route, and even the "less significant" ones will add up over the course of the day. You don't necessarily need to go compact or triple, but if you've got a 12/23 you might want to look at a 12/27 or even a 13/29 cassette.

I'll be riding my compact 50/36 chainrings and have been toying with installing a 13/27 myself...


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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I had a 12/27 put on for this terrain. I'm still struggling with my hills though. My heart stays relatively low, but my quads have a lot of burning. I'm a fairly small woman and I think I just need to pay my dues. My hill running is really improving, but I spent a month running hills up here to prepare for Comfortably Numb. That is probably four weeks I should have been riding more. Anyway...I'm riding almost every other day now and trying to pay my dues. I know my bike fit is good and I have tried to rule out any other little mistakes. I'm realizing it just takes time to improve from a complete flat terrain to challenging hills like these. I'm doing Squamish Tri next Sunday and then planning some longer bike rides to prepare for my first half in New Hampshire Aug 17th. It will come...If you have any other advice I haven't thought of, I would LOVE to hear it. Thanks
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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My heart stays relatively low, but my quads have a lot of burning.

What's your typical cadence when climbing? And are you "saving" a bailout gear? A lot of people like to climb in their second or third smallest gear because they like to know that they still have somewhere to go if it really gets ugly. The problem with this is that it generally makes the climb harder, and by the time you hit the bailout gear your legs/lungs are wasted.

Rather than trying to "save a gear" (if you are - it's pretty common) try to select a gear that allows you to spin at a comfortable cadence - ideally in the 80-100rpm range. The statement "my quads have a lot of burning" indicates to me that you're pushing too big of a gear, relying on strength to get over the hill. Shift up and make it easier on your legs.

Another thing to try (and work on) is your standing climbing. Triathletes as a general rule tend to favour seated spinning over standing, but standing is an excellent way to climb - and is sometimes your only option when it gets really steep. If you've trained your standing climbing, it won't put a huge tax on your legs.

If you've run out of gears, compact cranks may be something to look into. Especially as a smaller woman, most road bikes are WAY over-geared for a non-elite cyclist. I'm a fairly strong guy, and have been a (most definitively non-elite) cyclist for ~16 years and I really like my compacts on the road bike.

Climbing is a little bit like running in that you have to do it a lot to get better at it. You've got the right idea, riding frequently and climbing a lot. Keep it up.


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If you've trained your standing climbing, it won't put a huge tax on your legs.

what cadence do you stand-climb at? any specific training you can do or is it just a 'practice, practice, practice' kind of things? I have yet to figure out how to stand climb in an aerobic way (as in, without dying within 30 sec or so)
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Marco in BC] [ In reply to ]
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I don't try for any specific cadence, just go with whatever's most comfortable. It will be significantly lower than "spinning" though... Maybe somewhere in the 60-75rpm range?

The key is finding the right gearing to match your weight and the terrain such that it isn't a "push" but you aren't "falling too fast", either. Standing climbing isn't super easy physiologically, so yes - it will be more tiring until you get used to it. But it can be a great way to take a break (low back and butt esp) or to stretch out the legs for a bit. It's also very powerful, and if you want to blast over the crest of a hill (or drop someone) you can really move - just be aware of the penalty on the other side of that hard effort. :p The key for long standing climbs is to make it as "easy" as possible.

It is possible to climb standing "relaxed" - that just takes practice. You can also practice on the flats, in an appropriately large gear. Watts are watts. Try counting light/electrical poles or pedal strokes.


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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I'm free all Aug long weekend, and am up for a ride for sure. P is only free Sun or Mon tho. Not sure about 190K, have done 200K+ rides before but it's been a while. Of course I can get sucked in to almost anything pretty easily.

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// sets the hook

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Was just mentioning to P the other day how I secretly like the sufferfest (as I was debating doing a 1/2IM in Sept)....

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [AndyPants] [ In reply to ]
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Unfortunately I can't make the Whistler ride. Apparently I'm in the Okanagan doing some ride on what's called the "Ironman Canada Bike Course". As always it should be good fun although I must admit the idea of hitting wineries it what brings me there. K

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Was just mentioning to P the other day how I secretly like the sufferfest (as I was debating doing a 1/2IM in Sept)....

You could do Sooke with me... :D


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Tell me about Sooke. I'm considering it but would like to know more about the course and the event itself. Is it worth the trip, or should I just wait for the NB Half next spring? It seems like a pretty small field but with some decent names.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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I was looking at that one or Black Diamond in WA. Love that race.

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [banana] [ In reply to ]
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I don't know much about the race (but I did do a sprint there a few years ago), but the area is beautiful. On that alone you should head over! :)
Of course, Khai makes the trip worth it ;)


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Tell me about Sooke. I'm considering it but would like to know more about the course and the event itself. Is it worth the trip, or should I just wait for the NB Half next spring? It seems like a pretty small field but with some decent names.

You know, I really don't know a thing about the course other than I expect it to be a hilly ride, and the run is through the downtown part of Sooke - so it should be very spectator friendly. Rappstar or REDSTORM might know the lay of the land as they're based out of Victoria, but I kind of figure that knowing the course, while nice, isn't going to have a huge impact on my day anyway. I'll either perform or not.

Race info is here: http://www.lifesport.ca/SookeHalfIron2008.htm

As for the race management, John Botelho & co put on an excellent event in Victoria, and I expect nothing less for Sooke (and for Vancouver this weekend).


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I was looking at that one or Black Diamond in WA. Love that race.

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BD - isn't that the one with the run that's stinkin' hot, along a desolate and shade free dyke?

Sounds like fun to me... :p




Waitaminute.... you actually like that sort of thing.


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Of course, Khai makes the trip worth it ;)

Aw, thanks darlin'!


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Nope that's not it. The run course at BD is half decent, some trails and some shade on the paved sections too.

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I'm free all Aug long weekend, and am up for a ride for sure. P is only free Sun or Mon tho.

We can take a poll as to what everyone wants to do - originally I was thinking of a 2 day there and back (riding both ways with an overnight stay), but I'm not married to that concept - we could just as easily do a ride up and drive back on the same day. That would mean our support vehicle has to have the capacity to haul everyone + bikes back.

Another decision is the start location - Squamish or Whistler?

Finally, what day(s)?


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I rode from Whistler to the top of Duffey Lake Road and back last year. Not easy. 13km of tough climbing with extended sections of 13% grade. HOT. I ran out of fluids and was amazingly happy to see the Petro Can in Pemberton on the way home. Then, the really tough part is that the return leg from Pemberton to Whistler is significantly uphill so you're doing all the rolling climbs at the end of your long ride after tackling Duffey Lake. Of course, I'm sure that the fact that I went with a bunch of roadies, got dropped on every climb and then TTed all the flats and downhills to catch up again did not help ;))
Road surface is generally pretty good. Fine with normal tire pressure. There was one totally flooded section in the reserve past Pemberton when I did the ride but I'm sure that's long gone.
An incredibly beautiful trip and an adventure to remember.
I'd love to try all the way to Lilloeet some day but alas, I had to get my transition run done and make it back to North Van before the pool closed.

Squamish-Lilloeet would be just unreal!
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If you come you're not allowed to kill us the whole way there and then be all happy at the end...


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We can take a poll as to what everyone wants to do - originally I was thinking of a 2 day there and back (riding both ways with an overnight stay), but I'm not married to that concept - we could just as easily do a ride up and drive back on the same day. That would mean our support vehicle has to have the capacity to haul everyone + bikes back.

Another decision is the start location - Squamish or Whistler?

Well we'll be rolling in 2 weeks, and I'm out of town the week prior - so lets get some people on board with what they want to do. While I'm happy to ride both ways and the longer distance, it might be smarter to do less. :p

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According to my coaches wishes, my long ride for that weekend will be 4-5 hours and long run 90-120 mins. So, I would prefer the shorter ride so that I can actually do what my coaches tell me for a change.
Saturday or Sunday ride would be best for me so that I can do my run on whichever we don't ride.
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I vote Whistler start, and I am only really capable of doing Whistler to Lillooet with a drive back. P and I can ride Sun or Mon.

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According to my coaches wishes...

... But whatever... tell me what I'm doing. lol

I hope I don't know your coach or (s)he's going to be pissed (at me) that you'd listen to me rather than him/her! :p

So far it's looking like Sunday or Monday, Whistler to Lillooet (& drive back).


We'll have to keep an eye on our numbers to make sure that everyone (& their bike) has a ride home!


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I'd love to come. I'm racing on Sunday (3rd) in Black Diamond, so my pref would be Monday from Whistler 1 way ...

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Cool, hope you can come... The 1-way seems the favoured option. Diva, what's the set-up on the vehicle (type & # of seats)? If you have a hitch we could look at renting a small bike trailer. Or we may have to arrange another vehicle... heck you can't even ride the pooch (Greyhound Bus) from Lillooet to Whistler!

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If the vehicle could be an issue, I think I would be ok with doing both there and back ONLY IF we stay over night in Lillooet. That might be a lot of fun actually.

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Sorry I have been negligent on this thread. Husband had a mountain bike crash/injury which demanded some attention.

Any day is fine for me. My husband cannot drive support vehicle for us on Sunday because he is doing a mountain biking thing. (Assuming he's recovered.)

However, I want to ride about 100K of this route. I am hoping someone would rotate some of the riding with me. I have a Ford Expedition which has seats for five, (the third seat is out of the vehicle) room for several bikes in the back, and a bike rack on the rear for three more bikes. My cycling is improving but I don't think I can ride the whole thing. I would be happy returning that night or spending the night and driving the vehicle for the other riders the next day. We could leave from Whistler or Pemberton although it might be easier to load up all our supplies from my place in Whistler.

I'm looking forward to riding such a beautiful road and getting in more climbing time. PM me if you want to discuss further details. This is going to be an awesome ride.
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Damn - crashing sucks! I hope your husband recovers quickly.

It's sounding like Monday, Whistler to Lillooet & drive back that night will work best for everyone.

I count six riders thus far:
Andy
Phil
Cuds
Alexis
Diva
Khai

Hopefully I haven't missed anyone but if I have, please speak up! It also sounds like we may need a second driver as we'll have seven people and 6 bikes (at least) on the return trip. I'll see if Jen is interested and available. Worst case I could probably take the Tuesday off work and ride back solo/with anyone who wants extra saddle time.


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Would any of these riders want to rotate part of the driving with me? If they all want to do all the mileage, I can find a college student from around here who would probably do the driving. That takes up another seat in the vehicle though, and I was hoping we could get by with one vehicle. I suppose we can play it by ear as it's two weeks out and people may add or drop depending on what is happening that specific weekend. I'm committed though and looking forward to it.
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I suspect that once you get out there, you'll want to finish the entire thing... ;-)

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Ha! You could be right. The farthest I have cycled is 70 miles though and it had no elevation. My rides in the past two months have only been about 35 miles each but loaded with long hills. I'm actually curious what my body could do and we would still need someone to drive the vehicle. I'm working on that one....
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As long as you keep it fueled, I'm sure that your body will respond just fine. Maybe don't take off from Whistler at 40kph... ;p


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Thanks! I actually think I probably could slug it out although it would be slow. I've done some ultra marathons and you just stick it out. I'm obsessed with Lake Placid now and rooting for Caitlin Shea-Kinney. Her Mom is my friend and coach. She's a great athlete herself and it looks like Caitlin is following in her mother's footsteps. So exciting...
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That's one hell of a run she just had today!

Awesome to "watch".


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FWIW, I won't be barreling along at any crazy speed, I'll be going steady and slow. And remember that once you finish that very long nasty hill at Mt Currie, it is essentially downhill to Lillooet... ;-)

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I hope you have great weather on your ride. It will probably be intolerably hot in Lillooet for the Vancouverites. Fortunately you ride past Seton Lake which has a great public beach for swimming. The lake is on your left as you make your final descent, and the wall of heat hits you. The lake is partially glacial fed, hence the lovely blue colour, and very refreshing to swim in.

Here's a pic of the final descent into town:


Here's Seton Lake:



From the scenic overlook of Seton Lk, you can often spot mountain goats on the rock outcrops to the north. Just look for anything white.

I would recommend Dina's Restaurant for dinner (greek), but I've been gone for three years, so things may have changed. If anyone does stay overnight, I would recommend the 4 Pines. The Mile "0" is right beside the railway. Avoid the Reynolds and The Vic if you actually want to sleep (good places to get a beer though). A good hearty breakfast can be had at Lou's.

Have fun and watch for rocks on the road (especially after you cross the aptly named Boulder Creek).

Oh and AP, there is more climbing just before you get to Lillooet, it's just not quite as long and it has a mix of up and down.
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Those pictures are exquisite!! Thank you. As a South Texas chick, the heat is the one thing I am NOT worried about. It's normal for me to ride/run in 90-100 degree heat for months on end. After living in that kind of heat with intense humidity, it' one of the few advantages I have, especially in running. This is going to be a breathtakingly beautiful ride.
Thanks for all your tips. Wish you were joining us. I'm still working on getting us back that night. I rode with a local Saturday and he told me the road has a lot of holes in it since winter and to keep a sharp eye for them. Khai, have we definitely decided on Monday and how many people are committed?
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Those pictures have me totally pumped about this ride!

I think we're set at six riders and Monday - that seems to work for everyone who's stepped forward.

Anyone who isn't on this list who does want to ride, speak up!

Andy
Phil
Cuds
Alexis
Diva
Khai

Not sure on vehicle logistics yet, but that's not a huge problem to overcome...


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I'll still be in Seattle after Xterra Black Diamond. Sounds like a great ride though!
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Come back early! I'll be at Black Diamond on Sunday, and up in Whistler on Monday ... I'll be dead tired but happy!!!


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Did the person you mentioned driving seem likely? My husband said if we did Friday or Saturday he could do it for us, but not Sunday or Monday since he is doing a mountain bike camp. (How he plans to do that with a broken tail bone, I don't know. I won't even go there, that's probably worth a new thread.) If she can't, I'm feeling out a few college kids that I know around Whistler to see if they can do it. I'll keep you posted how that develops. With a driver, that would make 7 to ride and 6 bikes to haul. It would be cramped, but not impossible.
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I think I have someone to drive for us and he is actually a bike mechanic! Things have a way of working out.
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Wow, how's that for karma - apparently we were meant to do this ride ;-)

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Yes, I think so too. I have to confess I'm relieved because I know I will be bringing up the rear and I have yet to successfully change a flat by myself! How hard can it be???
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Oh I think I'll be in the back with you sister, and I can show you how to change a flat no problem (clinchers right?)...

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You all say you're going to be bringing up the rear, but I'll bet you'll still be faster than me. Fortunately I've become excellent at changing flats because I've had three in my last 3 rides (and no, not due to me pinching them! lol).


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Ouch! I once had a ride with three flats, all along the lower level road in North Vancouver. This came after over 2 years with no flats. When karma wants to catch-up with you, it does so with a vengeance! Khai and Phil can go burn along the front, and the ladies can just ride their draft ;-)

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Why do I get the feeling that despite all these women claiming to be unfit and off the back, that I'll be the one 1/3rd of the way up any given pass as you all crest the summit and start your descent?


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Did the person you mentioned driving seem likely? My husband said if we did Friday or Saturday he could do it for us, but not Sunday or Monday since he is doing a mountain bike camp. (How he plans to do that with a broken tail bone, I don't know. I won't even go there, that's probably worth a new thread.) If she can't, I'm feeling out a few college kids that I know around Whistler to see if they can do it. I'll keep you posted how that develops. With a driver, that would make 7 to ride and 6 bikes to haul. It would be cramped, but not impossible.

I can easily take 4 bikes in my car (2 on the roof, 2 inside - possibly 3 inside) as well as two or three passengers comfortably. I may have a driver (possibly a driver and ballast) as well. I think that we'll want two vehicles to shuttle everyone back so that we aren't all super cramped after a long day in the saddle - so if your wrench works out we should be good to go. :)


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Ouch! I once had a ride with three flats, all along the lower level road in North Vancouver. This came after over 2 years with no flats. When karma wants to catch-up with you, it does so with a vengeance! Khai and Phil can go burn along the front, and the ladies can just ride their draft ;-)

The first, last and only time I ever got three flats on a ride I was so pissed off I hailed a cab to take me (the rest of the way) home. :p


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I just talked to him again and he said yes, he could do it Monday, Aug 4th. The guy is an amazing bike mechanic who can fix anything. I'll have coolers, food, and plenty of tools in my vehicle. I'm also bringing the absolute best oatmeal, chocolate chip cookies I've ever eaten from Whistler's Gone Bakery. All others pale into mediocrity!!! I am planning to start from Pemberton. That's going to be plenty of mileage for me.
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yeah we can do 2 on top and two or three inside. If we do two inside we can take 5 people. Otherwise 3+ inside and 3 people inside.

Seems like we'll be covered either way... AP

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2nd driver secured. We're good to go!

Now we just need to sort out start/meet times, etc.


Is it wrong that I'm a little more excited about the cookies than the ride? :p


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Any time is fine for me and my driver. I intend to start at Pemberton. I will have a cooler, tools, etc with my driver and can haul anyone else's extraneous items as well from Whistler.
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Well, we'll need to start late enough for those of us driving up from Vancouver on Monday AM, but early enough so we have time to ride/drive back to Whistler/drive back to Vancouver ...

9:30 am ???

PS: I'm looking forward to the cookies too!!!


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mmm cookies. I like cookies. ;-)

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Well, we'll need to start late enough for those of us driving up from Vancouver on Monday AM, but early enough so we have time to ride/drive back to Whistler/drive back to Vancouver ...

9:30 am ???

I'm guessing ~6hrs ride time for a relatively easy paced (but hilly) 130k. That makes for a start time between 09:00 and 10:00 as pretty reasonable as it will get us to Lillooet by ~16:00, back to Whistler by ~18:00 and we can have a nice dinner and be back in Van at a decent enough hour to show up at work the next day. What does everyone else think?


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Sounds good to me. Where would you all like to eat dinner in Whistler? I suggest a reservation if it's anything other than burgers. (Not that burgers aren't great.) It's peak summer season and crowded up here.

I've found a new little tiny kitchen at the Alpine stop light on the North side of Whistler that I love. They serve up great pasta, salmon etc and beautiful bread. It's off the beaten path from tourist and reasonable. Or were you intending to eat in Lilloeet? There was a previous post with restaurant recommendations there as well.

Are you bringing your daughter in the other vehicle? How old is she? I think she's younger than my daughter who is 10. I haven't made up my mind if I'm putting her in the Sag wagon with the mechanic/driver or leaving her in Whistler. If the girls were close in age, they might have fun playing roadside, swimming on the way etc. My daughter is patient and well behaved. I got the impression your daughter was younger?

Did I mention the cookies are as big as a frisbee???

Anyone who wants to shower at my place before dinner is more than welcome.
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Oh man, my girl is almost 5 and P's boy is almost 4, a bit too young, but you know, if you ever want to do a week long ride WITH THE KIDS, we'd totally be up for doing that and taking turns... maybe next summer!


re: dinner, I'm easy either way. I tend to get hungry quickly whereas P needs about 2 hrs before a big feed. We'll manage around the group's choice. Maybe play it by ear. If in Whistler, we can do a pub, maybe that pub W of 99 at Creekside, "treehouse"??? get out of the village. Heck even Pemberton would work.

So count P and I in for the ride from W->L.

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Just so everyone knows, I'm still in. I've been quiet because, like I said in one of my previous posts, I'll just do whatever you guys tell me I'm going to do lol.


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Oh heck yes! ;-)

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So, while watching the TDF last night and seeing riders take corners too wide and go off the road, to land in trees, scree (talus) slopes or grass and then scramble back up to the road, my husband turns to me and says jokingly: "It's a good thing they are not riding around Lillooet, they'd be dead".

He does have a point that I should pass on. For the last 25 km or so, the highway cuts through a canyon (or gorge) and has some sharp corners and very few guardrails. There is often rock on the road and some of the drops are sheer cliffs down to the very fast flowing Cayoosh. I would hate to read about Khai having to be airlifted out on a backboard or something similar.

Please be extra cautious when descending and taking corners.

I wish I was going too, I would definately struggle on all of the hills.

Enjoy the cookies.

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I would hate to read about Khai having to be airlifted out on a backboard or something similar.

What the hell - why is it always me?!!!


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Oh man, my girl is almost 5 and P's boy is almost 4, a bit too young, but you know, if you ever want to do a week long ride WITH THE KIDS, we'd totally be up for doing that and taking turns... maybe next summer!

Y'all can do the first part of the big ride with me next year. I've got to burn some rolled over vacation so I'm going come hell or high water!


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That sounds awesome! RV rental time! ;-)

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Just a ping as a reminder: we are doing this Monday right? P and I are totally stoked about this. In fact I am debating buying a 34 for my small ring on my Olmo for this ride... oh and the cookies of course! ;-)

Guess we'll meet in Whistler at what? 9am?

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Yeah, Monday the 4th...

Question is, where do we meet in Whistler?


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Reconfirmed with bike mechanic/driver this morning. We are good to go.
Cookies will be ordered and picked up Sunday. Where do we want to meet? I'm sitting on the fence on whether or not I will take off from Whistler with you all or in Pemberton and save my energy for the rest of the ride. Any details I'm missing? Andypants, did you do Pemberton Festival? We did and I can't say I would do it again. There were lots of logistical problems. It was not a good atmosphere for children. Coldplay was incredible though. Definitely the high light of the weekend.
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Hell yeah! Monday Aug 4th, 09:00 in the (gravel) day lots - unless you guys want to meet somewhere in the village... I could be convinced to do that pretty easily as well. If we're meeting near coffee we might have to call it an Italian start though... :p

I've got a driver and ballast and will have the bike racks mounted so I'm good to carry 4-5 bikes and 2-3 people back from Lillooet. Not 100% sure if they're going to sag as well or just hang out in the Village though :p


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did you do Pemberton Festival? We did and I can't say I would do it again. There were lots of logistical problems. It was not a good atmosphere for children. Coldplay was incredible though. Definitely the high light of the weekend.

Ooooh - did you ask anyone about that beforehand? I definitely wouldn't take kids to that... It's largely a drunkfest with the music being a secondary feature. Great bands, but certainly not somewhere I'd take kids. Glad to hear that you had a good time in spite of things.

I don't know Pemberton at all, nor how long it will take us to ride there from Whistler. Maybe you can tell us as you've done the ride before? If you like, we can call you as we roll out so you have 30min or whatever to get ready. Or you can just come and ride with us - I've been off the wagon for a few weeks (since Victoria, really) so I certainly won't be setting any land speed records. Can't speak for Phil though... especially going uphill. That mofo can climb!


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Day lots (gravel) sounds good...

I assume we'll be stopping for lunch somewhere (?) or should we pack it (we can also survive on cookies)?

Does anyone needs a ride from Vancouver ?


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I assume we'll be stopping for lunch somewhere (?) or should we pack it (we can also survive on cookies)?

Does anyone needs a ride from Vancouver ?

I hadn't planned on a lunch stop, but to say that I've planned anything would be a bit of a stretch. :p I'm open to either option although I'm not really thinking there's much between Pemberton and Lillooet. We might be best to have lunch in the support vehicle if people want to stop. Or, we could just sit up while riding and do rolling feeds. Musettes, anyone?

I figure a hilly 130km will take somewhere in the neighbourhood of 5-6hrs at a relaxed pace. That's 2 superbottles for me, or one ultrabottle. The bigger issue is feeling hungry as opposed to getting enough calories. But that's where the cookies come in, right? :D


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I can survive on anything! I guess I'll pack up my IM food: Red Bull & Pringles!

So to sum up, we're meeting at 9 am at the gravel day lot , ready to ride at 9:30 at the latest...


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As Khai stated, there is nowhere to get food between Mt. Currie and Lillooet. Maybe your sag wagon could have snacks waiting at Joffre Lakes provincial park. It's almost at the summit to the Duffy Lake climb and the first lake is only about 100m off the highway (for a cool down).

I just noticed on the CBC website that hwy 99 is going to be closed for a couple of days by Furry Creek due to a rockslide http://www.cbc.ca/...kslide-whistler.html

At least they have 4 days to get it cleared up for you.

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I'm still in, but I'm starting to worry a little that I might be the black sheep here - not confident about my abilities basically. Hopefully I don't get left in the dust. :(


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Whistler to Pemberton is ~35k, so that's 1-1.5hrs depending on terrain. That will be too early for lunch. I vote that folks pack fud for the SAG and for carrying. A planned pit stop at Joffre Lakes is a good idea - that would be a good lunchtime stop. AP

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Don't worry, I'll be slower!! I have been riding the Alta Lake Road 3 x a week. My route is 28 miles (sorry my metric is pathetic) and it takes me 2 hours. My coach did map it and told me it is very very hilly, but I can't believe how slow I am on that thing. So, you will be fine and I will probably be behind you. That's one reason for the SAG wagon. If we crater, we can ride for awhile. I'm going to do my best, have fun, and no shame getting tired at some point. I need this ride before Timberman. There is no food between Pemberton and Lillooeet. The Joffrey Lake plan for a lunch stop if needed is perfect. It is so, so beautiful. It is super buggy though. I will have bug spray in the car. We are talking swarming bugs. I think Khai's estimation of 1 1/2 hours from Whistler to Pemberton is about right. Meeting in the day lots is fine, although they are big and we need to specify which one. This is going to be a great ride.
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Actually, I'm totally down with rolling feeds too, I once ate a monster burrito on the road... that was an interesting test of my handing skills!

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Wow, Click on Sharon's link for the Hwy 99 rock slide! I hope no one is buried under that thing. It looks horrible. I'm glad I'm going to the airport next Wednesday and not today.
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Worry not - I don't think anyone's going to be racing out there. I'm certainly not...


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Thanks! Hills are my concern these days. I don't know what's happened, but running and biking on hills is causing some serious respiratory issues. I can't see it being because I'm out of shape (hopefully I'm in shape with IMC around the corner lol) and I train on hills all the bloody time (New West... stupid hills everywhere). I think I have been fighting something for the last few weeks and today I'm coughing a bit so maybe that explains it. Ah well, I'm just going to try and have as much fun as possible.

I hope they have the roads cleared for Monday...


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I used to ride with a guy whose wife would pack him whatever they had in the fridge for training fuel. We'd be sitting up, riding down some desolate highway at 35kph (with a tailwind) and he'd reach into his jersey pocket and say "hey man - want some chicken?". Then the guy would pull out like 3 drumsticks wrapped in saran wrap or tinfoil. Good times...

He was one of the best wrenches I've ever known, too.


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Wow, Click on Sharon's link for the Hwy 99 rock slide! I hope no one is buried under that thing. It looks horrible. I'm glad I'm going to the airport next Wednesday and not today.

That's the funny thing about road construction in North America... We blast our way through the mountains to build a road, and then are surprised when stuff falls down. I'm not saying that the engineers didn't do their due diligence when they designed the roadway, but just looking at the sheer cliffs that we've created it seems logical (at least to me) that stuff is going to fall at some point.

I too, hope that no-one was injured or killed by the slide. That would be terrible.


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running and biking on hills is causing some serious respiratory issues. I can't see it being because I'm out of shape (hopefully I'm in shape with IMC around the corner lol) and I train on hills all the bloody time (New West... stupid hills everywhere). I think I have been fighting something for the last few weeks and today I'm coughing a bit so maybe that explains it.

You might want to see a doc about that... Several years ago I had this weird cough that only seemed to affect me badly when I was starting a ride, but made me wheeze a lot and generally suck whenever I tried to put down moderate to hard efforts. When not riding uphill (or just starting out) I felt more or less fine. Turned out that I had some sort of nasty bronchitis and it took two rounds of antibiotics before it cleared.

With IMC around the corner, I wouldn't want to leave that to chance.


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I'm still in, but I'm starting to worry a little that I might be the black sheep here - not confident about my abilities basically. Hopefully I don't get left in the dust. :(

No worries, I'll probably be taking it easy too, I'm racing Xterra on Sunday so with the race & travel I'll be pretty tired...


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I'm still in, but I'm starting to worry a little that I might be the black sheep here - not confident about my abilities basically. Hopefully I don't get left in the dust. :(

No worries, I'll probably be taking it easy too, I'm racing Xterra on Sunday so with the race & travel I'll be pretty tired...

I said this early on in the thread, but I think it's worth reiterating: I get the distinct feeling that I'm being set up by a bunch of sandbaggers! :p


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I said this early on in the thread, but I think it's worth reiterating: I get the distinct feeling that I'm being set up by a bunch of sandbaggers! :p[/reply]
Nah, I may be tired and ok with taking it easy but, I can definitely carry my load of sandbags pretty well up any hills ... too bad Miranda isn't coming to set up the pace :)


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Dude you will have Phil challenging you on every hill... ;-)

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Sorry saw this...
Rock slide shuts Sea-to-Sky for five days

Stretch between Furry Creek Bridge and Lions Bay affected Staff Reporter,

The ProvincePublished: Wednesday, July 30, 2008
The Sea-to-Sky Highway between Furry Creek Bridge and Lions Bay will be closed for five days, the road blocked by a massive rock slide that happened around 11 p.m. Tuesday.

"Five days is probably a safe scenario," said Transportation Minister Kevin Falcon, who toured the slide site Wednesday. "The uncertainty is what we're going to find above and what we find on the road."

The rocks cover 75 metres of road and are piled about 10 metres high and is comprised of between 5,000 and 16,000 cubic metres of debris.

"It is actually a little awe-inspiring," Falcon said of the slide. "You literally had the face of a mountain drop off the bluff." A rockslide on Highway 99 has closed the road in both directions Wednesday morning. Global BC
Geotechnical engineers are on site just north of Porteau Cove, said Ministry of Transportation spokesman Dave Crebo Tuesday morning.

Crebo said crews need to be assured it's safe enough to get in and start moving the debris. How long that process will take is anyone's guess at this point, explained Crebo.

"Certainly it won't be anything imminent in terms of reopening," he said.
Crews had to wait until daylight to assess the situation. Helicopters are assisting in the evaluation, Crebo noted.
Views from a Global helicopter at daybreak showed enormous boulders completely blocking the road and significant roadway and train-track damage from the huge mass of falling rock.
It's unclear whether rainfall all day Tuesday triggered the slide.
Mike Cafferty of Perimeter Bus Line, which operates between Vancouver and Whistler, told Global News at noon that a 24-passenger coach heading to Whistler narrowly averted the slide.
Debris smashed several windows on the coach but it made it out without any further damage.
Travel on Highway 99 is highly limited, explained the RCMP.
Northbound traffic can travel only as far as Lions Bay. Southbound traffic can make it down to Britannia Beach. Furry Creek residents will be stopped at road blocks at Britannia Beach and officials will escort them into the community.
"We are asking everyone else to avoid the area," RCMP spokeswoman Const. Annie Linteau said in a release.
The Ministry of Highways is determining the stability of the rock face and the Canadian Coast Guard and RCMP air and police dog services are patrolling the area trying to determine if any vehicles were caught in the rock slide.
Falcon expressed relief that no one is believed anyone is believed to be trapped.

"Everything else is fixable, human lives are not," Falcon said.
Falcon said the stretch of road affected has been problematic.
"We've got a significant amount of rock bolting and rock scaling that was planned for this area," said Falcon. "This is going to accelerate some of that."
The Vancouver Organizing Committee for the 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games isn't saying much about how the rock slide does or doesn't affect its plans.
"We are aware of the incident on the Sea-to-Sky Highway and support the Ministry of Transportation's efforts to clear the area as soon as possible ... We will defer any further comment regarding today's rock slide to the Ministry of Transportation," Irene Kerr, VANOC's vice-president of services and transportation, said in a statement.
"To mitigate any short-term transportation challenges between Vancouver and Whistler, athletes, officials and the majority of personnel required to stage an Olympic or Paralympic event in Whistler will be housed in the Whistler area so events will proceed on schedule," she added.


ARE YOU TRAPPED BY THE SLIDE?

Have you had your travel plans disrupted by the road closure? E-mail us at tabtips@theprovince.com with your story, or simply enter your comments below.

TRAVELLER OPTIONS
For those who can't wait for the highway to reopen, other options do exist. Helicopters are available to be chartered for flights between Vancouver and Whistler or Squamish, noted Vancouver-based Helijet Charters in a news release.
For more information, that company can be reached at 604-270-1484.
The long route east on Highway 1, doubling back toward Whistler from the north, is also a possibility -- but those setting out should be warned that the trip will take about six hours.
(See the story at right for the alternate route from downtown Vancouver.)



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Well that's a positive post :P

Guess we're just going to have to charter a helicopter to get us in and out :D teehee


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I heard they're hoping to have the Sea to Sky open by Friday ... I guess we'll just have to wait & see ...


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Alexia] [ In reply to ]
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Do we want to do a plan B if Whistler's a no go? I'm still gonna need to get a ride in and could really use the assistance (company) of other riders. It's been a lonely training year lol


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I do, for sure. We could do the Fraser Valley as a backup. Ride to Harrison Hot Springs maybe? approx 130k from Burnaby.

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I'm down for whatever. You guys will know the roads the best (I've been spending all my cycling hours on River Rd. & Westminster Hwy, LAME!) so wherever you wanna go I'm ok with.


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Yeah, that would work for me too ..., hopefully we won't have to use plan B!


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Looks like we may have to go to plan B after all ... just watching the news, they say the hwy may be closed until Tuesday ...


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Alexia] [ In reply to ]
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I just read cbc.ca and they said possibly five days of closure!! Surely they are looking at a worst case scenario. I will be monitoring this as the days go by. Crazy!!
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The latest road updates can be found here: http://www.drivebc.ca/details.jsp?eventId=66107&district=Lower%20Mainland|Lower%20Mainland%20Sunshine%20Coast


I hope that they can get it cleared up in time...


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Thanks for that link. I am taking my kids back to Texas on Wed. Aug 06. I hope I don't have to drive around the long way via Lillooet. I'm starting to wonder if my bike box will fit in the helicopter that goes from Whistler to Vancouver. A six hour drive plus 12 hours of airline travel makes for a long day. We'll see...I'm so relieved no one got hurt in the rockslide.
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I'm thinking they won't. I'm hoping, but I seriously doubt it. :-(

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A family of 4 taking the heli to Vancouver from Whistler costs just shy of $3000.

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Yeah, I just checked the rates. It's going to be a long long drive for my kids and I, then 12 hours of air travel time. Nothing to be done about it. That will make me miss another day of training though, which is not optimal. Oh well....
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Well one bright spot: DFO will allow the clearing of rock into Howe Sound, as opposed to trucking it all out. That should have a lot of time. Still projecting 4 days tho.

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I heard this morning Whistler Air (float plane) is doing specials for $200 each. They would also charge me for the bike box though. That would be $800 versus a possible 7-8 hour drive. Sitting on the fence on that one....

I had booked my daughter a lesson with dirt series coach for Monday and employed the driver/bike mechanic for Lillooet ride. I'm just wondering how long I wait before I cancel these. I don't want to be last minute and rude to these two professional cycling individuals. It won't be nearly as fun to ride to Lillooet by myself!! Again, personal inconvenience aside, I'm glad no one was hurt.
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99.3 The Fox just reported (from CKNW) that the roads could be cleared and opened by Sunday if progress continues at the rate it is now!!!!

WOOOOHOOOO!


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SWEET! I'll be keeping tabs on this all weekend...

(assuming I ever get home)



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GO GO GO!!!!!

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I really need to hear that on several fronts. It's raining for the second day, just went down and noticed my bike has a flat, I ate a giant piece of strawberry rhubarb pie ala mode, and I've been worrying over getting to the Vancouver Airport next week. Now perhaps I can stop worrying and STOP EATING. I was going to cancel the driver/mechanic tonight but I will hold off until further word on the highway progress. Here's hoping it all works out....
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I'm sure he knows what our story is, right? Just let him know where we stand maybe?
You should have no problem getting to the airport though. Sounds like things are coming together just fine.

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CBC reporting late Sunday opening possibility with Monday looking almost certain: http://www.cbc.ca/...8/01/bc-highway.html

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Global news at 6 said almost for sure Monday. :-( We need plan B. My suggestions are (with NO sag wagon cuz I dunno who's gonna sag): 1) Drive to Ft. Langley and then ride from Ft. Langley to Chilliwack (Big Yellow Barn) and back. This is a fave randonneur ride See http://www.randonneurs.bc.ca/...outes/lm_canpop.html. 2) South Surrey along 0 avenue, meet at the pink hotel on 99, ride to Sumas (or slightly further) and back, maybe even cross at Aldergrove and ride thru Linden WA, then cross back at Sumas. 3) Vancouver-ish to Mission and back (about 120k).

Other suggestions????

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Darn. I feel I can stop worrying about my Wednesday flight, but I am bummed about this ride falling apart @ Whistler. If you all are thinking it's looking dim for up here, I'm going to cancel the driver/bike mechanic. I don't want to tie up his day and then again, I was compensating him and if we're not going, I want to avoid that as well. I don't feel too guilty because with 9 bikes here, I can give him some other work. I hope you all have a great ride. I'll be watching the posts in the next 24 hours to see what you all decide.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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Told driver I would be definitve about plans by tomorrow evening. (Saturday) Hopefully, it will come together. He's a sweetheart and said "no worries either way."
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This one is cool: http://www.roadbikerides.com/...iew/small_climb/1856
with the option of heading up towards Mt Baker

but I'm open to whatever ...


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Global news at 6 said almost for sure Monday. :-( We need plan B. My suggestions are (with NO sag wagon cuz I dunno who's gonna sag): 1) Drive to Ft. Langley and then ride from Ft. Langley to Chilliwack (Big Yellow Barn) and back. This is a fave randonneur ride See http://www.randonneurs.bc.ca/...utes/lm_canpop.html. 2) South Surrey along 0 avenue, meet at the pink hotel on 99, ride to Sumas (or slightly further) and back, maybe even cross at Aldergrove and ride thru Linden WA, then cross back at Sumas. 3) Vancouver-ish to Mission and back (about 120k).

Other suggestions????

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I'm still holding out hope that we can make it to Whistler on Monday, but if we are forced to look to alternate routes I'd strongly recommend avoiding Zero Ave. I've been warned that that's a very popular road for street racers and kids who think they can drive a lot better than they actually can, and as a result there are a fair number of cars flying along right on the edge of control (or just beyond) and an inordinately high number of high-speed accidents along that road. It's too bad, too - it's a beautiful bit of road that would be perfect for riding...


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PEEPS! The news just said that they expect the highway to open TONIGHT! WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!

In other news... my complaints about shortness of breath earlier in this thread look to be asthma. Fab.


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District: Lower Mainland Route: Highway 99 Both Directions Type: Incident Cause: Rock Slide Last Updated On: Aug 02, 2008 05:33 PM
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Closed in both directions at Porteau Cove between Lions Bay and Furry Creek Bridge (15.5 km) because of Rock Slide. Estimated time of opening: Saturday, August 2 at 11 pm. Next update: 11:00 pm, Saturday, August 2. Confidence level: high. Alternate Route: Highway 99 North of Squamish through Lillooet which connects with Cariboo Hwy 97. Motorists should allow extra time, exercise caution and obey traffic control personnel. Updated on Sat Aug 2 at 5:33 pm. (ID# 66107)

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Looking good! :D


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Yeah!!! Did my long run today so I will have some legs for Monday. The weather should be lovely. Can one of you bring a cooler? I was going to go buy one and all I could find were the cheapie, squeaky, plastic ones.
Khai, which day lot do you want to meet in? I think I am starting in Whistler with you all rather than Pemberton.
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Yeah!!! Did my long run today so I will have some legs for Monday.
Darn it. I tried, but my lungs gave out. I'm avec puffer now though so I'm going to try again tomorrow morning.

Alright, who can hook me up with a ride on Monday? Anyone? Bueller?


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Alright, who can hook me up with a ride on Monday? Anyone? Bueller?

I can! I have room for 2 more bikes & 2 passengers ... Where in Vancouver are you?


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I'm actually in New West, but I could come meet you. I do drive, but I just think it's dumb for us to all be taking vehicles up there - I'm a little green! Where you at?


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I'm on Main St in Vancouver ... I'll PM you my info.


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YEEE - HAAA! We're on!


http://www.drivebc.ca/...d%20Sunshine%20Coast

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Road reopened from Lions Bay to Furry Creek Bridge. Updated on Sat Aug 2 at 10:21 pm. (ID# 66107)
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I don't remember exactly how the lots are numbered, but I seem to recall that if you enter via the main road from Hwy 99, go under the footbridge by the hotel and make a left at the junction the driveway that leads to the gravel day lots is immediately to the right. From there there are ~3 lots to the right, and one or two to the left. We might as well try to stick to the closest lot to the main road rather than going deep into the lot and then riding out through the gravel.

I'll PM you with my phone number but don't imagine we'll have too much trouble finding each other. I drive a green Volvo wagon.


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Ok, first lot to the right then. That one is never crowded because it's farthest from the bike park lifts. The ones to the left are for buses, so the first one to the right is perfect. I'll be there with the big muddy silver/green Ford Expedition with Texas plates.
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I'm curious to hear how the ride went, but more importantly I'm curious to hear about the cookies.

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Me too! I had to bail this morning... very sad. I think the combination of trying out my new inhaler yesterday + TOM coming to town made me very sick this morning. Didn't strike me I would have a very good day :( I even slept in til 10 this morning (the latest I have gotten up in the last 6+ months is 7am!).

The weather was awesome... must have been great!


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Holy shit. 135km of hell. That climb out of Mt Currie is ridiculous and the road from there on to Lillooet is brutally paved (bad chipseal and lots of huge potholes). It took us 8hrs. Alexia was the maillot jaune and the KOM (ungodly climbing out of this woman!), Khai won the white jersey as the joung rider, Diva kicked butt on those climbs, she just never stopped going, both Phil and Diva did their longest rides ever yesterday... I took the Lanterne Rouge ;-) (and was glad I didn't take the Soloist, the gearing on that would have killed me - I bonked badly enough as was).

It was 42degC when we got to Lillooet. We all chugged a couple cold cokes and headed back to Whistler for dinner. It was only on that drive back did we truly realize the idiocy of what we had accomplished. Over dinner at some wicked burrito place in the village, talk turned to doing the ride again next August...

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Holy crapzony. Well, I'm glad I didn't come with you guys. I was lying in bed for about half an hour debating (always fun at 5am) whether or not I should, but by the sounds of it I would have been in hell. Not to mention, I would have been in big trouble with the coaches if I had done 8 hours!
Maybe next year... :)


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [AndyPants] [ In reply to ]
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And the cookies?

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [YVR K] [ In reply to ]
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Awe-some of course. ;-)

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [cuds] [ In reply to ]
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Well it wasn't exactly 8 hrs of riding, my bike computer says 5h25 ... we stopped a lot and I had 2 flats ....

I hope you feel better ...


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [cuds] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah it wasn't 8hrs straight, that's for sure. And our two flats were in the first hour at least ;-)

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [cuds] [ In reply to ]
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Hey cuds, it's really too bad that you weren't able to come but from the sounds of it you definitely made the smart choice. Everyone was really looking forward to meeting you, but doing that ride sick would have very likely smoked your IM bid. Staying home to rest was the best thing you could have done.

That was definitely the hardest 135km I've ever ridden, and is up there among the hardest rides I've done, period.

http://www.toporoute.com/...Metric,setFollowRoad

Mt Currie is one nasty sonofabitch, and the road out past Duffy Lake is indeed pretty bad. The chipseal doesn't bother me so much as the huge cracks and potholes that could pretty easily take you out, and then there's the fun road to gravel transition with a 8" dropoff coming down into Lilloet that Phil and Diva hit at speed - luckily everyone stayed upright and intact.

Absolutely stunning scenery, and definitely lots of climbing even well past Mt Currie. That last 20km into Lillooet was killer. I'm SO glad that we had sag support, and also that we didn't start in Squamish. I probably went through 6 bottles of water and there's nowhere to stop once you get out of Pemberton - so lacking either of those would have made for absolute misery...

Total elapsed time was ~8hrs, but actual ride time was closer to 5:45. We lost ~1hr to mechanical, and easily an hour and a half to rest/refuel stops and just stopping by the side of the road to catch breath and psych up for the next pitch.

This is the elevation profile:




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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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Hey did any of the pics turnout? ya gotta post a few ;-)

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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Holy climbing Batman! Wow! Ya, that would have kicked my ass even more than it was already kicked. I'm already in enough trouble for IMC nevermind putting myself through that. I got some well-needed sleep and am almost 100% today - except for the pain that TOM is causing me.

Hopefully most everyone is going to be at IMC and I can meet most people then.


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [cuds] [ In reply to ]
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Good, rest is important this close to IM... more important than this ride, that's for sure.

For what it's worth, P and I are planning on doing IMC in 09, and this ride makes Richter and even Yellow look like a walk in the park... so it was a good call to skip it. I'm still super fried out.

We'll be up there, I know Khai will as well, I'm sure they'll be an ST meet-up.

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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This is the elevation profile:



WOW! It's a good thing we didn't see this before the ride!


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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Wow, that elevation map blows my mind! Driving back, I was amazed at the course we rode. I'm sorry I was so vegged out at dinner. My brain was very tired in addition to my body. The company was great and I thoroughly enjoyed the ride, now that it's over!! I know I'm insane, but I have every intention of riding it again next June, training two more months on elevation, then riding it on our one year anniversary in August. Now we know exactly what we need and how to do it. I fully believe a guardian angel was watching over Phil and I when we hit that giant rut at full speed. This was a great confidence builder for me and I appreciate each and every one of you and your contributions to the ride. Good luck with your up and coming races and say a prayer for me on the morning of Timberman. B.C. Rocks.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sorry to hear the roadbed was in such a sorry state.

--Rant On-- When I left Lillooet, shortly after Vancouver had been rewarded the Winter games, there was a lot of hope that some of the money would go to improving the Duffy. They were suppose to repave about 20-30 km each year. This would be used as an alternate (shorter) route to get people from the rest of Canada to the games. It sounds like not much repaving has occurred. Hopefully all the people who had to use this route over the last week due to the rockslide can complain to the Ministry of Transportation about the road conditions. The gov't only seems to listen to people from the lower mainland. -- Rant off--

I have only ridden small portions of that route, on a mountain bike with slicks, so I can only admire you folks. I'm glad to hear that Khai didn't end up in the Cayoosh and that some of you are willing to attempt it again next year.

How was the traffic, and did anyone go for a dip in Seton Lake, sounds like it was hot enough.

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [AndyPants] [ In reply to ]
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Hey did any of the pics turnout? ya gotta post a few ;-)


Big smiles pre-ride...




Rolling Out






The view from where we stopped for Alexia's 1st Flat (on the road - 2nd of the day)




Self Portrait




Phil, climbing




Alexia's 2nd Flat




The last time we'd see Alexia for a LONG time...




The climb




(Official) Rest Stop #1




More Climbin'




Close to the Summit




We made it!




Duffy Lake




The climb into Lilloet










The hole that almost ate Phil & diva...




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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, so I start at the first pic and I'm really jealous. Look at how happy you guys were and what a beautiful day. Then I get to the pic of you at the rest point. Dude, you look like you were about to die! That picture reaffirms that my decision not to join you guys was the best decision of my life! haha :)


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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I am laughing!! Where's the picture in front of the dusty, dive bar in Lillooet when we're done? I hope we don't look as beat up as I felt.
That picture of Duffy Lake is very beautiful. Thanks for the great photography.
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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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<edit>

I took a closer look at the "pre-ride" picture and have determined that the arm warmers are Andy's.

Nice one, detective.

Thank you, Watson.


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I've acquired a pair of arm warmers. MEC. Labels cut out.

I figure they're either Alexia's or Andy's.


Are either of you two missing your arm warmers?


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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I don't think any of us was "all there" at dinner!

By next year the memories of all the pain may have subsided enough for you to get some people on board again...


You're going to do awesome at Timberman!


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Sharon] [ In reply to ]
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When the rockslide blocked access on Hwy99 South of Furry Creek, there was more talk of that highway being upgraded. I don't know that anything will come of it, but it could certainly use resurfacing!

Traffic was really light - especially once we got N of Pemberton. Most of the drivers out there were exceptionally courteous as well. I was really impressed with how slower vehicles pull over to let others stacked up behind them pass - as a rule, not the exception!

None of us went swimming in the lake, but Andy did wade into a waterfall on the climb up Mt Currie!


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [cuds] [ In reply to ]
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Dude, you look like you were about to die! That picture reaffirms that my decision not to join you guys was the best decision of my life! haha :)

I was actually feeling a lot better by that point... :D


Had there been any pictures in Lillooet when we finished it would have been a pathetic sight indeed!


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [diva] [ In reply to ]
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We totally forgot to take pictures at the end of the ride. I had wanted to stop at the big Lillooet sign before we went up that last climb into town, but the group was pretty fragmented at that point. By the time we all regrouped all I wanted was to get my damned shoes off. And a Coke. And those chips. Camera what? :p


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I've acquired a pair of arm warmers. MEC. Labels cut out.

I figure they're either Alexia's or Andy's.


Are either of you two missing your arm warmers?
Mine are Pearl's, and I think I've got them ... I think!


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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LOVE the pics! Just awesome ... any more?


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Alexia] [ In reply to ]
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Yep those are mine. No hurry, I have another pair ;-)

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LOVE the pics! Just awesome ... any more?

Rollin' out (you can't see it, but we're still smiling at this point)




For cuds - proof that I wasn't completely shattered at the rest stop... :p




Climbin' - we seemed to do a lot of this...


















Brother Leo, one of our two heroic sag drivers, making sure that Andy is still alive :)




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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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I think this epic ride deserves it's own thread in the main forum ....


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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I don't think any of us was "all there" at dinner!

By next year the memories of all the pain may have subsided enough for you to get some people on board again...

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Re: Whistler riding partner? [JulianInEngland] [ In reply to ]
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Don't you dare forget to ask me along next year Bro!

You're the only one who *might* be able to give Alexia a little challenge on those climbs!


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I'll be the sag wagon next year. You people like torture far too much.

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I'll be the sag wagon next year.
Just quoting it so we can go back to the post next year :)


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My Element makes a perfect sag wagon. I can fit a couple bikes and lots of crap in it. Really it is because I want to come but have no interest in torturing myself on the bike.

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I'll be the sag wagon next year. You people like torture far too much.

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I think Khai is secretly trying to start the latest version of epic camps.



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Re: Whistler riding partner? [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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Everyone that went on this ridiculous ride... I'm going up to Whistler for the weekend and have an hourish run on Saturday and 2ish hour run Sunday. Any pointers on where to go to do these? And is there somewhere close to do an open water swim?


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Good thing I'm smart so I can be a big wuss!

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I might stand a chance if she punctures twice next year too!


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Re: Whistler riding partner? [cuds] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sorry I was out of town with no internet access. I would have loved to tell you my favorite trails to run and my swim route in Lost Lake! Next time around....it's such a special place.
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