Thought about it yes, done it no. I just can't seem to justify the cost (at this time), and I'm afraid that it's a slippery slope.

You start with a little botox and restalyn and wake up one day looking like Joan Rivers.

I'm trying to embrace aging but it's tough. I definately feel that triathlon has done a number on my skin. I'm now much more careful with sunscreen and trying to wear shirts with sleeves.

Had botox, but no fillers. Done between eyebrows, temples (for crow's feet) and forehead because I had lines from raising my eyebrows all the time. Gotta say, I love it. Have done it every 6 months and it's made a huge difference. Still have expression, but skin is just so much smoother. Hasn't been a slippery slope for me, as it's the only "cosmetic" thing I've ever done. I'm not secretive about it and have asked for opinions from friends and they've all said it gives a "fresher" appearance but they can't put their finger on why. I'm a convert :)

How much does botox cost?

I get it every 3-4 months and love it... I'll admit to teetering on the slippery slope, but haven't fallen over yet. They charge by the unit, so the more you get the more it costs.

mtngirl- minimum is about $300 or so.

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Wow, thanks for all the candor. Nobody I know talks about this openly.

I am 100% sure I'd go careening down that slippery slope if I did it once. Forget 'filler', I'd need spackle and a trowel. Plus, it is hard enough to keep up on my roots, let alone wrinkles.

However, it is interesting to know how widespread the use of Botox has become. Rock on.

Two months ago I had fat from my thighs put in the lines by my mouth. This method is more painful than synthetic injectibles, but lasts longer - sometimes several years.

I formerly was of the anti-injection school of thought - ferociously so. Then I changed my mind so fast it caused mental whiplash. I like it. It's subtle.

A couple years ago I had a bout of colon cancer and I've recently bumped into some industry people who last saw me then. They don't think I've had "work" done, but say how healthy and recovered I look. A quick Doc visit and a hair cut is all.

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holly cow, was it expensive to do that?

i've got plenty of fat on my ass to redistribute, maybe this is how i could make a positive out of it!

i think Botox, in "moderation" (LOL) is not a bad thing. it's when the faces are totally frozen stiff that it's overboard.

i used to get acrylic nails, and currently am a fake blonde (my real hair color is light to medium brown, but it gets colored to look like honey, as in honey blonde). the nails are long gone, and i've been a little freaked out at turning 33. so i could substitute the face fillers for the nails, right? if i could get the mouth lines "filled in" maybe this would artificially pump up my happiness and level of self esteem. then i could finally function as a normal person in society!

(just kidding...i have no desire to function as a normal person.) :) :) :) :)

LOL

here is my big wrinkle. see it? it sees you!



and here is another shot of it. forgive the dorthy hamill haircut, it's wretched i know. next week i see my hair stylist, which is WAY overdue. this hair is kind of like a cross between a soccer mom and dorthy hamill, i guess. not to mention i've been rained on several times today. but the real point is, LOOK AT THAT BIG SMILE LINE, GAWD!

hmmm...you won't get a conventional mammogram, but you want to inject foreign substances or even poison (botox) into your face?

boggles the mind

touche, i never said it had to make sense.

if it was fat from my own butt this is a little different than radiation accumulating in the body.

anyway, i'm not being "that serious". (just horsing around, in other words). it's friday, nothing like a little self depreciating humor.

33? You're still a babe and look great. I'd hold out on doing it for a few more years. I don't see a wrinkle, seriously.

sorry if I offended...I should have posted in pink, I think...

It just struck me as odd for you, because I get the feeling you are super-health/holistic conscious and wouldn't do "foreign" things to your body.

And...what wrinkle? :) Seriously, I hardly see anything in those pics!

HI Kitty,

You are so cute, I know how you feel, my daughter is 30 and I cannot convince her to save my life that she is gorgeous! I remember thinking I looked so much older at 30 something, now at 50 I realize I didn't know a thing about aging! I'm sure when I'm 70 I'll look back at 50 and say the same thing. Anyway, I have had restylane injections in my lips to get rid of the wrinkles you get around the lips that are so bad lipstick actually seeps into them. I'm sorry, that happend to my grandma and I'm just not ready to be as old as grandma yet. I got botox in the brow area this year and was amazed at the difference it can make. Mine was only $125 and it lasts about 4 months. The restylane lasts about 6 months. At first I think it makes my lips alittle too poofy but my 20 year old daughter loves it and after a month or so it gets down to the just right phase..

I get my hair done too, if I didn't I'd be totally grey and I'm not ready for that. I think the thing about being in great shape as you get older is that it is disconcerting to look in the mirror and see how much the outside doesnt' reflect the inside if you know what i mean..

I know three triathlon women, two of them really good athletes, who have had breast implants. Nothing looks more odd than a triathlete with huge boobs. I think about it sometimes though. Not because I'm insecure or need a man's attention (I have a great husband who hardly notices the stuff I do already) no, I just think it would be fun, way better than just a new pair of sexy underwear! Of course I would never do it. It is dangerous, can be quite expensive and I cannot imagine how I would explain huge, perky boobs to all the other old ladies in the nursing home when I'm close to 90!

I don't think doing a few things here and there is a 'slippery slope'. I have facials and peels now and then as well. Our skin suffers quite a bit from all this training, we need the little extra something.

i have not used fillers in any facial wrinkles as of yet. My doc has encouraged me to try it on the one wrinkle I have around my mouth. maybe next time, I'll let you know how it goes if i do...

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NO, it wasn't you! It was some jackasses--2 of them, they didn't have the guts to post here.

and FWIW, i think the wrinkle was blended out a bit by the light. but...maybe i'm just freaking out over my birthday. when my birthday came i didn't have time to think about it (it was near Christmas and our anniversary, plus a family death...ack! it was crazy. so this is like the "after effect" or something. lately i've been walking around thinking "i'm 33 oh my god, how did i get here?!")

Joanne,

Age is a state of mind. I truly believe that.

Done it? No. Never will. Now, sucking some fat out is another story! I guess not looking my age helps too.

I think people (not just women) are bombarded by "look this perfect" every day from every corner and it just seeps into the unconsciousness. Want it driven home? Go have a basil cell carcinoma cut out of your face by a (very renowned in the area) plastic surgeon. One of his first words to me was, "Your right eye is a shade higher than the left." Well, OK, whatever.

I also agree with bt--no mammogram but shoot yourself full of crap? I don't get it.

cranky clm

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a-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha....ok I'm just being a smart ass, but really, WHAT wrinkles?

I sorta didn't freak out till 43 the age I christened the invisible age, stopped getting occasionally carded, hit on by much younger men, etc. I decided, no matter how hard I try, no matter how much plastic I do, I will never be (or have the body/skin tone) in my 20s, 30s whatev so stop fretting about it. The thing that freaks me out is how now 60+ y/o men think they can hit on me (I'm 45) It's funny cuz I'm like "eww, buddy my husband's 35, think again"

I don't necessarily think it's a slippery slope but I also think, from the few women I've seen who have botox that yes, absolutely their skin looks smoother, etc. But I'll never be fooled into thinking they're anything but their age, or somewhere around their biological age. I just could never justify that much expense just to make myself feel better about my face -- creams and potions, yes :) It's just wherever your line in the sand is.

I've done it (botox).

I've had a very expression-filled face since I was a kid. My forehead started developing lines well before college. Botox is an incredible fix for that. I also have smile lines (which I've had for decades) and I'm not sure they're fixable or that I'd even want to fix them.

I have a huge line across my brow, it's been there for years. I occasionally think I'll go get it filled, but I always chicken out. I worry about the slippery slope too, and the idea of doing it every 3-6months bothers me... sigh. I found that certain cremes have helped but every morning I see my big line... If you decide to go for it, let me know how it goes.

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I'm turning 33 this year and am not too freaked (yet) about getting older. Though until this morning, when my husband reminded me, apparently I've been telling people I'm 31 for the past six months or so b/c I honestly thought I was. Apparently my memory is the first to go. :)

I haven't done botox yet but I wouldn't necessarily rule it out in the future between my brows. I kinda like my smile lines b/c to me they show I've laughed a lot and isn't that a good sign of a life well lived? I am thinking of getting my teeth whitened this year though but I'm holding it out as a carrot in terms of "If my business makes $XX revenue then I'll reward myself with whitening."

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At 33, I don't know why you're worrying about a mammogram unless you have a family history issue. I had a baseline when I was 38 and it was so early, insurance didn't pay for it (thanks doc!).

I'm glad you brought up the botox. I just turned 41 and occassionally think about doing something more than just moisturizing like crazy.

40 years ago it was supposed to be some big secret if an older woman colored her hair "does she or doesn't she?". Now we don't even think twice about covering grey or getting highlights/lowlights and such even if there is no grey. I think some plastic surgery procedures should be put in the same category as hair dyeing, bikini waxing, etc. There is plenty of research and information readily available to help a person determine what the risks are...if any. If you make sure you go to a competent professional and you don't mind spending the money; if it makes you feel good about your appearance, then do it.

I wouldn't spend a single second worrying about the plastic surgeon's comments on your supposed asymmetry. I think they have that focus and tend to pick out phyical 'imperfections' in everyone they meet.

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Not too many wrinkles here, I have been using sunscreen every day rain or shine for years....but I am kinda 'saggy' in the face at times. I dont think botox is meant for this. Any ideas?
And also not meaning to hijack thread but its on topic: has anyone tried strivectin, supposedly 'better than botox' , or have any other lotions to recommend?

My 23 yr old daughter gets botox in her arm pits about every 4th months. She suffers from extreme arm pit sweat. She can just stand there and leak. However, the day of or after every visit she gets pretty sick.

Botox for me..... No......I'm only a few days away from 46 and I like the way I look and I'm happy with my body. It's my insides that worry me.... Too many friends, family & co-workers going through some kind of cancer. My concerns are in a different place right now . Although who knows how I'll feel in the upcoming aging years.

I love Botox and fillers
I am a personal trainer and one of my clients is a face doc so I get it free!!
I am single and like'em young so inject away!!!!!!

I also do microdermabrasion and chemical peels

when she offers the more invasive - I am sooo there!!

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I turn 36 on Sunday and have a 4th date tonight....a guy is actually getting a 4th date...this is almost a LTR for me ;-) As a rule I don't wear makeup until the 4th date, yes I know this is a stupid rule....but I don't wear makeup on a regular basis (mostly to weddings, funerals, crazy nights out on the town and 4th dates) , so I was testing some out last night and OMG the wrinkles under the eyes. I think I know what I'm getting myself for my birthday, a round of botox. I have had other body work done, 8 yrs ago when I lived in Las Vegas and it seemed like the thing to do. Don't regret it at all, and most people can't tell. Although I think the thinner I am the more obvious they are, but still natural looking for my frame.

Haven't had it yet. I plan to for my 40th birthday. I have a horrible frown line. It looks like I am Pissed Off all the time.

I never guessed. I just thought you were lucky.

:)

Have a fun date!

And Kitty, I can't see the lines. Honestly.

But I have them horribly. In two years of long distance training in Hawaii I've gone from normal looking skin to people guessing an AG one or two too high :( If I had a spare dime I would do the restalyn for my muppet lines in a heartbeat. And the brow crinkle too.

When I'm done with all this, and if I can afford it, I'll do both boobs and fillers. I'm a big fan of being happy with your body, at any cost!

Rachel

Seriously! I think the distance training and racing really does a number on one's face.

A good reason to stick to sprints and olys ladies! ;-)

Kitty....

Ok....guess what....I can't look at at mirror any more with out thinking of this post ....

Botox won't fix my problem ......I've got the dreaded DROOPY eye lids.... Heck ...I don't even use eye shadow... know one would ever see it ! Too bad they aren't transparent, because some day I could use them as goggles ..lol

Not for me - though I know others who have and are happy with their decision.

Me, I'm the type of gal who savours her little bruises and scars from training - have a wicked moon shaped scar on my right knee from a run spill a few years back ... hubby said "you know, you can get a cream that will fade that" and I said "but why would I".

HOWEVER, if the moon shaped scar was on my face, not sure i would feel the same way.

Do what makes you feel good, just do it for you and through a legitimate doctor !!!

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"You start with a little botox and restalyn and wake up one day looking like Joan Rivers."

or worse.

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Good lord, what IS that?

i hear you. every time i look in the mirror i wonder if those laugh lines are bigger--ha!
hey, i think Bill Clinton has had a big round of botox recently. very interesting.

Seriously, what lines?

well, i think the flash kind of softened them. either that or i'm nuts in the head, which is entirely possible.

BTW, yeah, that green tea works. it's been SO helpful in the coffee junkie transition.

I'm so glad it's helping. I'm having a giant cup of it right now. And if you come visit me, I'll get you hooked on yet another concoction. :)

Nuts in the head? I hope so. Life would be boring otherwise.

now that just sounds tempting! lol.

kittycat, I didn't read all of the posts but I'm guessing others might have said this, but I think laugh lines (or "wrinkles" as you call them) are extremely attractive. Just one man's opinion - DON'T DO IT!

That's the cat woman. She has had multiple procedures to purposely look that way. I know, crazy. But she wants to be a cat.

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Will you marry me???

:)

Ha ha. Hey, I'm actually hoping to meet someone who wants to settle down. Are you my Ms. Right? Send me your picture and I'll send you mine :) But keep it tasteful :)

I'm probably too old for you, but... ;-)

That means you can teach me all kinds of new things. Also, I'll be turning 29 in two months! Does this help? :)

Oh my.

Ha ha :) Okay, let's stop this tomfoolery and skullduggery! I'm on vacation starting NOW.

Have a great time. I'm off to tri camp in El Paso.

Back to our regularly scheduled discussion about good looking women...

I get botox every 12 weeks between my eyebrows. I had that ugly line there too & it looked like I was mad all of the time. It's SO not a big deal...you go in & you're out in about 5 minutes.....relatively painful....and AWESOME !!!!!!!! NO MORE WRINKLE !!!

BTW to whoever asked about Strivectin. It's GARBAGE. Just as any other "wrinkle cream" it does NOT work. Allergan (the company who manufactures Botox) actually sued them for their saying "Better than Botox" and now they use: "better than Botox ?" with the question mark they are allowed to use those words. I thought that was pretty funny.

I don't know why people make such a big deal about Botox or why the OP had people who were offended ????

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kittycat, you look fantastic. I don't see the line you're talking about. It's all in your head. I understand though, I just turned 37 and I'm starting to notice a lot more lines, especially around my eyes. People still seem to think I"m under 30 though so I can't complain.

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hey, thanks!

you'll like this. yesterday i had to buy some lipgloss, so i went to Chanel and began talking with the lady who always helps me. i mentioned "the line" and she said, "what lotion do you use?" so i told her. with that she said, "no, that is preventative! you are way way way past that, you need correction!"

i about died laughing right there in the chair. it was hilarious! once i started laughing, she was cracking up too, and i scored a ton of free samples out of it.

:)

nice one! Free samples are always good!
I have yet to hit to cosmetic counters for any sort of corrective measures (I think I'm past the point of preventative) it all seems a bit daunting. I do have to find something that works for under eye puffiness & dark circles though. I find that after a swim I my eyes seem REALLY puffy (I know it's my goggles) but that puffiness seems to take longer and longer to disappear now than it did before --there has to be some kind of cream out there that can help with that!

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swedes goggles for starters. for under eye dark circles--maybe more rest and higher iron in food? i don't know.

but for the eye cream, based on the Chanel samples i got...that stuff freaking rocks.

Kitty, just don't get all doll/mask-like like Priscilla Presley, currently on Dancing with the Stars! It is freaking me out to watch her. :)

If you're into "corrective" per the cosmetics lady, then I hate to think where I would be...."overhaul needed"! ;)

Good for you, kitty, for NOT taking this thread down. If some people want to be upset, let them be upset. Personally, I find nothing wrong with cosmetic enhancements if done for the right reason and with a healthy attitude. By that I mean that if someone has serious body image problems, they would probably be better off seeing a therapist than a cosmetic surgeon, as no amount of surgery is going to make them feel better until they get emotionally healthy. Also, there are so many people (mostly women, but plenty of men too) who make themselves miserable trying to attain some artificial standard of beauty that doesn't even exist in the real world. We're not talking about those people here. I don't see what the big deal is about getting some Botox or implants or lipo or a face peel, or whatever, if you're already physically and emotionally healthy. Come on, we all (or at least most of us) do SOMETHING to improve our looks, however big or small. Mascara to make our lashes thicker or longer, lipstick to make our lips look pink or shiny, hair gel/mousse to make our hair look thicker or less frizzy or more curly or whatever. We cut our hair in a flattering style instead of letting it grow on forever. We trim and even paint our fingernails. All of these cosmetic enhancements are on a continuum, with lip gloss at one end, and nose job/breast implants at the other. But let's not pretend they are apples and oranges. It's a matter of degree.

I just turned 39 this month and I'm seeing the lines around my eyes particularly when I smile. I mean, it is ridiculous. I also notice my face isn't as firm as it used to be. I'm not likely to do Botox but I am spending some serious bucks on eye and face creams. As I drop the weight it gets worse but if I'm sure to moisturize with frufru creams morning and night I definitly see a difference. When I don't moisturize, the lines come back with a vengence.

If I was to do any plastic surgery I'd look at doing liposuction on my hips. I have terrible saddlebags and no matter how much weight I loose I'll always have them. I look awful in compression shorts but they are all I wear so that I don't get jiggle exhaustion in my butt muscles. This ties into the running skirt conversation. I wear a size 4 so I'm not overweight. The hip fat is something I'm stuck with and if it isn't gone by now it isn't going anywhere. I can banish the belly but not the butt. Surgical solution is probably my only option. But, I think my husband would freak beause he is pretty against plastic surgery. Not that that would stop me necessarily :-) Honestly I'm not doing it now because liposuction can go really wrong, the fat can come back and it is very expensive.

I like have a B cup boobs and don't feel the need to make them bigger. They are losing their pep but I can live with that. They still look pretty good.

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

I guess there's something wrong with me... The only "makeup" I own is chapstick. I don't color my salt and pepper hair. There's nothing "Wonder" about my bras. I think I'm missing some "girly gene", but I just don't understand the need to change your looks with surgery or chemicals. I won't criticize someone who does understand it, but it's not for me. BTW, I'm 49 yrs old.