Goodbye LAVA Magazine

We hardly knew you, ok I admit I only read 2 issues…and they were both given to me. But hey you had some cool pics, I think.

Going to a digital only format after this issue.

http://www.bicycleretailer.com/...digital#.WN2gjMDyvgk

Maybe digital is better for fixing their mistakes? Their cover story was “Are Keytones the New SUPERFUEL?” for the last two days. Who on Earth literally read the research and then proceeded to refer to ketones as keytones?

Lava is a lot better than triathlete magazine

Yup. Triathlete is essentially the same issue now, month after month. It used to be a lot more race coverage, in depth interviews with athletes, etc. Now even Kona coverage is pretty limited. I stopped getting Triathlete over a year ago. I liked Lava much better, but I really don’t like digital only. Would love to see a tri magazine with more focused race coverage and less training articles covering the same ground over and over and over again.

We hardly knew you, ok I admit I only read 2 issues…and they were both given to me. But hey you had some cool pics, I think.

Going to a digital only format after this issue.

http://www.bicycleretailer.com/...digital#.WN2gjMDyvgk

Maybe digital is better for fixing their mistakes? Their cover story was “Are Keytones the New SUPERFUEL?” for the last two days. Who on Earth literally read the research and then proceeded to refer to ketones as keytones?

Funny you mention this. I brought this up. It was a mistake that was caught very early on but the correction just got lost because everyone on staff at LAVA is trying to juggle a host of new responsibilities and also because they are still adjusting to the change from being a print publication to a digital one, which still requires some sort of “publishing” that the folks there are still getting their heads around.

I’d love to see a TSJ or Roleur for triathlon. And I think a lot of folks would. But does wanting it actually translate to paying for it? I don’t know…

Maybe digital is better for fixing their mistakes? Their cover story was “Are Keytones the New SUPERFUEL?” for the last two days. Who on Earth literally read the research and then proceeded to refer to ketones as keytones?

Funny you mention this. I brought this up. It was a mistake that was caught very early on but the correction just got lost because everyone on staff at LAVA is trying to juggle a host of new responsibilities and also because they are still adjusting to the change from being a print publication to a digital one, which still requires some sort of “publishing” that the folks there are still getting their heads around.

I’d love to see a TSJ or Roleur for triathlon. And I think a lot of folks would. But does wanting it actually translate to paying for it? I don’t know…

Yeah, I’m sure it’s a pretty wild shift!

Wrong place for it, but I really appreciated your technical explanation on 1x chain length, jockey wheels, etc. a day or two ago. Very well written. It seems a lot of people newer to 1x keep having difficulties and I don’t think the manufacturers are too good about mentioning how jockey wheels affect that stuff too. Great work!

Maybe digital is better for fixing their mistakes? Their cover story was “Are Keytones the New SUPERFUEL?” for the last two days. Who on Earth literally read the research and then proceeded to refer to ketones as keytones?

Funny you mention this. I brought this up. It was a mistake that was caught very early on but the correction just got lost because everyone on staff at LAVA is trying to juggle a host of new responsibilities and also because they are still adjusting to the change from being a print publication to a digital one, which still requires some sort of “publishing” that the folks there are still getting their heads around.

I’d love to see a TSJ or Roleur for triathlon. And I think a lot of folks would. But does wanting it actually translate to paying for it? I don’t know…

Yeah, I’m sure it’s a pretty wild shift!

Wrong place for it, but I really appreciated your technical explanation on 1x chain length, jockey wheels, etc. a day or two ago. Very well written. It seems a lot of people newer to 1x keep having difficulties and I don’t think the manufacturers are too good about mentioning how jockey wheels affect that stuff too. Great work!

Just wait… I’ve got an extremely in-depth review of 1X friction profiles coming. I’d bet that - at least on the road side - I’ve got more time on 1X than any other pro athlete. There’s just a lot that you learn by running it - and nothing else. I don’t think it’s that manufacturers are bad about this stuff. I think it’s just that they often don’t think about it outside of MTB or CX (for right now), just because road 1X is still quite new.

Lava is a lot better than triathlete magazine

Idk. Triathlete has an article this month about upping your soctal networking game!!!

Just wait… I’ve got an extremely in-depth review of 1X friction profiles coming. I’d bet that - at least on the road side - I’ve got more time on 1X than any other pro athlete. There’s just a lot that you learn by running it - and nothing else. I don’t think it’s that manufacturers are bad about this stuff. I think it’s just that they often don’t think about it outside of MTB or CX (for right now), just because road 1X is still quite new.

I’m looking forward to it. I’m betting there’s no way the newer ‘clutched’ options aren’t adding measurable friction to the drivetrain. You can ‘feel’ it by hand in the workstand and it’s not like you can ‘feel’ the difference between jockey wheels or chains. I’ll probably have several questions once that feature hits. After playing around with SRAM (not extensively), Shimano, and adapters to run Shimano mt with road levers, I gotta say the Ultegra with the spring in the alternate position has really been my preference for everything 1x on cross and road. I never did get my hands on Force 1 RD to try before selling a previous SRAM shifting bike though. I’m such a fan of how SRAM stuff just works, has great compatibility and the RD’s play nicer with big cassettes. If the spring/cage tension isn’t as high (overkill on the road) as the 10 speed mt bike stuff I could see that being great.

Just wait… I’ve got an extremely in-depth review of 1X friction profiles coming. I’d bet that - at least on the road side - I’ve got more time on 1X than any other pro athlete. There’s just a lot that you learn by running it - and nothing else. I don’t think it’s that manufacturers are bad about this stuff. I think it’s just that they often don’t think about it outside of MTB or CX (for right now), just because road 1X is still quite new.

I’m looking forward to it. I’m betting there’s no way the newer ‘clutched’ options aren’t adding measurable friction to the drivetrain. You can ‘feel’ it by hand in the workstand and it’s not like you can ‘feel’ the difference between jockey wheels or chains. I’ll probably have several questions once that feature hits. After playing around with SRAM (not extensively), Shimano, and adapters to run Shimano mt with road levers, I gotta say the Ultegra with the spring in the alternate position has really been my preference for everything 1x on cross and road. I never did get my hands on Force 1 RD to try before selling a previous SRAM shifting bike though. I’m such a fan of how SRAM stuff just works, has great compatibility and the RD’s play nicer with big cassettes. If the spring/cage tension isn’t as high (overkill on the road) as the 10 speed mt bike stuff I could see that being great.

It’s not that simple. The stiffer spring - I measured it about 4.5lbs vs 3.2lbs in a “typical” position (remember, spring tension varies based on deflection of the spring based on spring constant k) for a Shimano rear derailleur.

(EDITED -->) This should add about 1w of frictional losses. BUT the derailleur uses 12T pulleys instead of 11T pulley, EACH OF WHICH gains BACK some of those losses - though not the same total amount - making it less than 1w. But that doesn’t consider the whole picture of chainring and cassette, which presents both opportunities for gain and losses.

So, as I discuss, yes, the clutch ADDS friction, but there are numerous other ways in which CERTAIN 1X configurations actually reduce losses.

I do the in-depth analysis, but at the end of the day, from a purely frictional standpoint, 1X can be both (very slightly) worse and (very slightly) better than 2x. But that doesn’t get into the aero discussion…

Hey Brian–

Yes, we are going almost all digital now. Back in 2010, LAVA was created for print. So the deal is that over the past couple of years, as forces of shifting advertising budgets foreshadowed, money to support the paper and shipping of print was drying up fast. (The first time I’d been warned that this was going to happen was in 2008 when I was told by one of the new CGI executives—I was with Triathlete and Inside Tri at the time— that all print would be dead within five years. I honestly didn’t know if this prediction had merit or not. It did seem plausible).

This morning I received an email from a reader accusing us of selling out and not taking the high road. I can understand how this could be the impression, but it’s not what’s happened. It’s more of an adapt-or-die thing. If there’s anything we want it’s simply to not go the way of Inside Triathlon and Running Times, magazines with strong histories that got reconsidered and absorbed into, respectively, Triathlete and Runner’s World. LAVA is an independent mag–the WTC sold it years ago. We are just a few people and a team of freelance contributors. So in fact, there’s nothing we could be absorbed into. Which now that I think of it is a good thing. But the forces are there for sure and we are in the act of recreating our magazine so that it’s a unique fit into the multisport media landscape. At the end of the day a magazine is a compilation of those who contribute to it. I think we’re extremely fortunate in that respect. Regulars include Dave Scott, Chris Foster, Cait Snow, senior editor Jay Prasuhn and Jordan Rapp. Cait, I should mention, is a new addition and she’s writing some great stuff. There’s a lot for us to figure out with the new platform. But we will have one more print issue this year and if we can figure out the right formula, more in 2018.

Our mission is to cultivate editorial that is of interest to our readers, in particular new lines of thinking in training, tech and nutrition, support and promote the sport of triathlon, and also I want to invest our energy in supporting grassroots triathlons that are what (in my opinion) helped build the sport in the first place. My first tri was a half-Ironman-length invention called the All Iowa Triathalon (sic) in 1983, put on by a next-door neighbor, and I feel a debt to that sort of thing that I think a lot of triathletes that have been around for a while feel. At any rate, the new version of LAVA is in a dynamic state of being so I encourage anyone interested in contributing ideas and stories to contact me at tjmurphy@lavamagazine.com. Now that we’ve embraced the change it’s fun to consider the possibilities. Thanks and best regards–T.J.

I’m with you 100%. I especially liked it years ago when Scott Douglass was the editor.

My fault on that one. Ironically enough, I’ve invested time in being able to spell the different ketones (e.g. betahydroxybuterate) so this was a painful one. It’s fixed thank god.

I like to reread back issues and be happy about all the gear I didn’t buy. Ditto Inside Tri.

I really enjoyed the magazine (back page, cover stories, photos, anything Jordan Rapp wrote), but I don’t think they ever met a product they didn’t like- which I totally understand, but still…

And changing gears slightly, Ventum did have the $32.5k signature bike on display at Oceanside this weekend. Looked great in person.

Maybe Pubes can start Rouleur for Tri, and he can hire an editor to redline the vitriol.

I’m fine with digital only. I have so many Triathlete and Lava Magazines in my house. I don’t know what to do with all of them.

I read my magazines at night before I turn the light off. I have no desire to read digital stuff only.

As was Ultrasport Magazine - damm that mag had some great stories in it , still revisit it from time to time after all these years

What about me TJ?. I am a Australian subscriber who bought 2 years printed copy 12 months ago. It cost me a small fortune. I worked in a high level Government security job. think Snowden ,which restricts digital access. I read it on my lunch break. The cost for me of 2 years printed I could have got 10 years of digital!. Am I entitled to a partial refund?

TJ, as one who has had photographic work from you in the past (and hoping to do more some day), I’m thinking this might be the best idea. We all loved to great printed and laminated covers and quality of stock in years past, but even high profile mags have suffered as of late. The up side is that the image quality can be much easier controlled and displayed beautifully on a screen, as often we were at the mercy of the printer and paper budgets. I hope you make this a stellar publication and show how wonderfully the digital messages can work. It has big possibilities as far as much more stunning graphics, more “interactive” avenues and abilities for comments and immediate interaction and involvement with viewers. I think it’s a wise move and I hope to see some more brilliant and stunning images come from it. I’d be more than happy to help in any way if you need it! Best…

Just wait… I’ve got an extremely in-depth review of 1X friction profiles coming. I’d bet that - at least on the road side - I’ve got more time on 1X than any other pro athlete. There’s just a lot that you learn by running it - and nothing else. I don’t think it’s that manufacturers are bad about this stuff. I think it’s just that they often don’t think about it outside of MTB or CX (for right now), just because road 1X is still quite new.

I’m looking forward to it. I’m betting there’s no way the newer ‘clutched’ options aren’t adding measurable friction to the drivetrain. You can ‘feel’ it by hand in the workstand and it’s not like you can ‘feel’ the difference between jockey wheels or chains. I’ll probably have several questions once that feature hits. After playing around with SRAM (not extensively), Shimano, and adapters to run Shimano mt with road levers, I gotta say the Ultegra with the spring in the alternate position has really been my preference for everything 1x on cross and road. I never did get my hands on Force 1 RD to try before selling a previous SRAM shifting bike though. I’m such a fan of how SRAM stuff just works, has great compatibility and the RD’s play nicer with big cassettes. If the spring/cage tension isn’t as high (overkill on the road) as the 10 speed mt bike stuff I could see that being great.

It’s not that simple. The stiffer spring - I measured it about 4.5lbs vs 3.2lbs in a “typical” position (remember, spring tension varies based on deflection of the spring based on spring constant k) for a Shimano rear derailleur.

(EDITED -->) This should add about 1w of frictional losses. BUT the derailleur uses 12T pulleys instead of 11T pulley, EACH OF WHICH gains BACK some of those losses - though not the same total amount - making it less than 1w. But that doesn’t consider the whole picture of chainring and cassette, which presents both opportunities for gain and losses.

So, as I discuss, yes, the clutch ADDS friction, but there are numerous other ways in which CERTAIN 1X configurations actually reduce losses.

I do the in-depth analysis, but at the end of the day, from a purely frictional standpoint, 1X can be both (very slightly) worse and (very slightly) better than 2x. But that doesn’t get into the aero discussion…

Don’t forget about just the pure simplicity. I am sure you included it, but I think it is really an underrated selling point.

Hey Chuckie—

We need to get you a refund–send me an email at tjmurphy@lavamagazine.com and we’ll get things sorted out for you. Very sorry about that–I can imagine that did cost a small fortune. Love to hear about the job some time but that might be something that probably can’t happen for Snowden-esque and other obvious reasons.

Best regards,
TJ

Hey Gary–great to hear from you and thanks for the generous words and support. It’s my hope that we can navigate to a place where we can help keep the good shooters like yourself in business. Photographers like Rich Cruse, Delly Carr, John Segesta and several others who are talented and do it for the love of it for sure.

Thanks TJ. I appreciate that. As I said, if you need anything, I’d love to help. Many of us have passion that drives us and I’m sure yours will right the ship and create some great issues in the future.

Hey Gary–great to hear from you and thanks for the generous words and support. It’s my hope that we can navigate to a place where we can help keep the good shooters like yourself in business. Photographers like Rich Cruse, Delly Carr, John Segesta and several others who are talented and do it for the love of it for sure.

We want to echo our support for Lava Magazine and look forward to them being successful in their new format.They are committed to covering all aspects of triathlon especially covering the grassroots races which is great for the sport. I have dealt with their staff and TJ directly and they are in it for the love of the sport which is why most of us got into this in the first place.
We look forward to helping in any way to make this work.
Richard Izzo
http://www.TOUGHMANTri.com
http://www.TOUGHKidstri.com