ianpeace wrote:
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I really appreciate your staying open minded and working through this with me. You and I want the same thing - for you to have the right bike. I've looked at your fit sheet. I see a seat height of 810, a Pad Y of 711 and a Pad X of 421. I find this to be a bit suspect and here's why... Take a look at this article https://www.slowtwitch.com/...ld_Example_6852.html and plot your dot (711/421) on the graph. There's only one person who is more of an outlier than you. I have to wonder why and that leads me to some questions...
1) What saddle was under you for the fit and where were you sitting on it. Scroll thru the pics of the women at kona and the men at kona and take note of how they are all riding the front half of the saddle. Were you riding like that during the fit?
2) How long were the cranks used during your fit?
3) You said this was a Retul fit... was it done on a Muve dynamic fit bike?
4) How long was your ride in the final position, at what effort was that final position ride, and were you offered a chance to elongate your cockpit during that final position effort?
If you're answer to all this... "WTF does Ian know? He's only seen text, my fitter has seen ME!". I respect that answer, agree with in to some extent, and if you're good to go then here's your bike....
Canyon Speedmax CF size Medium with the 80mm stem that comes stock, pads back almost 100% and with 55mm of Profile-Design aerobar pedestal (those spacers and long bolts will be in the box). Here's what makes me super comfortable and confident prescribing this bike...
1) Your seat height can go up and down a ton and you'll still be perfect on this bike
2) Your pads can move forward 75mm, a direction I expect your fit to go, and that is the bike fit equivalent to the length of Nebraska
3) Your pads can move down 80mm, a direction I expect your fit to go, and that's a drop like the Mariana Trench.
Ian
You're awesome for taking the amount of time to craft these responses. I dont know which saddle for certain, but have asked my fitter. In the meantime:
1) I can say with 99% certainty that I was back on the saddle as one would be on a road bike, and definitely not riding the nose like the kona photos.
2) I can also say with 99% certainty (and my fitter can correct me on this) that we set the crank length to that of the CF, which is 170, because he was fitting me knowing which bike I was in the market for.
3) It was no a Muve Dynamic. It was a fit bike from Exit, from my Google search It looked very much like the Exit MKii
4) I didn't really maintain the position longer than 2 minutes on the fit bike and certainly not under any remarkable effort, if any effort at all. Just kind of assumed the position with 50 watt pedal strokes briefly until told to stop by the fitter.
The only other anecdotal data I have is that an XL Canyon Endurace AL 7.0 was way too big for me and needed a 70mm stem to be tolerable. I currently have a Large Giant Propel that feels like it is just a hair too long but I'm still dialing in fit on it.
Tried to embed the links, failed.
Endurace: https://www.canyon.com/...l-disc-7.0/2394.html
Giant: https://www.giant-bicycles.com/...advanced-disc-1-2021